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Speaker 1: So I gotta ask you.
Speaker 2: Of course we're talking about training. Can we talk about
Speaker 2: what you've been doing? You have to feel good about
Speaker 2: whenever you take a break. I notice I'll go online
Speaker 2: and look at the YouTube stuff that we do Command
Speaker 2: Center training camp, and the first thing everyone says.
Speaker 3: Is, we're smooth. We're smooth.
Speaker 1: Where smooth?
Speaker 3: Where you been?
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I had to deal with the
Speaker 4: ex wife. So at the end of the day, I
Speaker 4: had to go.
Speaker 3: Take care of my bending. Plus I had actually lost
Speaker 3: my voice.
Speaker 4: I think the old of them getting jinks I'm developing
Speaker 4: a dairy like I don't respond to milk the way
Speaker 4: I used to, So I think I'm developing an allergy
Speaker 4: or something to milk. And I love milk like I'm
Speaker 4: wonder the people like I will drink it. Ninety degree
Speaker 4: driggers are like under a special umbrella.
Speaker 3: Yes we are, Yes, we are.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm stilling one of them or not,
Speaker 4: Like I think I'm getting let toolson tolerant.
Speaker 1: Okay, does it affect your voice or anything like?
Speaker 4: Yes, it did make my voice. It made it made
Speaker 4: my glance swell up and stuff like this. So I
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I need to step away
Speaker 4: from the milk for a second. So now I'm drinking
Speaker 4: like one percent milk right now.
Speaker 2: You can't give it up completely, No, I can't give
Speaker 2: it up, but I'm addicted to it.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're backing everyone else's glide your back.
Speaker 2: When you talk about training camp, everyone's says the kids
Speaker 2: say the vibes. What are the vibes like when you
Speaker 2: walk out here, just when you feel the fans, when
Speaker 2: you see the cheam practice with the vibes like here.
Speaker 4: Energy energy, energy, energy, the rebirth. We've been a sleeping
Speaker 4: giant for so long, like the only thing. I ain't
Speaker 4: even focused on the players. I've only been focused on
Speaker 4: the crowd. I've been focused on the fans. I've been
Speaker 4: focused on the energy. I've been focused on the families.
Speaker 4: Like I've seen fans. But now I'm starting to see
Speaker 4: the young fans come back out like the.
Speaker 3: Three year olds.
Speaker 4: Some kids throwing past it out there. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 4: I'm talking That's how you build a fan base. It
Speaker 4: ain't about the fans you got now. It's about the
Speaker 4: fans of tomorrow and right now. And the one thing
Speaker 4: that when coach Gibbs was here. He was big on family.
Speaker 4: He was big on the fact that people came here
Speaker 4: with their sons, their fathers, that the daughters, and this
Speaker 4: is their part of their memory. Now we got that back.
Speaker 4: We got that back in Washington football at his finest.
Speaker 4: When I made it here, no one the fan base
Speaker 4: was pretty much alive. I'm alive and well. And I'm
Speaker 4: happy that John Allen, I'm happy that Tyry make Loan
Speaker 4: get to feel that because they deserve that. These guys
Speaker 4: go out there and play their ass off and they don't.
Speaker 4: And I love the fact that now they got a
Speaker 4: full fan base behind me.
Speaker 1: And I think it's almost come full circle too. You
Speaker 1: think about the new ownership group of Josh Harris is
Speaker 1: said he grew up with this keep he remembers Joe Gibbs.
Speaker 1: So it's like, now I'm going to bring it back
Speaker 1: to the way it was.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, nostalgia is everything.
Speaker 4: Like if you ever want to sell somebody something, you
Speaker 4: can sell them my old shoe if it got nostylegia
Speaker 4: hook to it.
Speaker 3: And that's what it's about, he remembers.
Speaker 4: And that's like the one thing we forget about sports
Speaker 4: is it's the ultimate reality show. It's the longest running
Speaker 4: reality show of all time. But it's one thing that
Speaker 4: brings everybody together. It brings down people together under one roof,
Speaker 4: under one caught against the team? Are you cheating for
Speaker 4: the team? It brings us together. And that's what we
Speaker 4: had lost for a couple of years here.
Speaker 2: So we know the fans are excited and it definitely
Speaker 2: is a new era. But when you watch practice, and
Speaker 2: I know a lot of times you guys will focus
Speaker 2: on different position groups, whatever it is, what's the one
Speaker 2: group getting the guys?
Speaker 1: What's one group? Right now that you've been a pressbury.
Speaker 4: You gotta talk about this d line like you know
Speaker 4: what I want to talk about the DB's I'm biased.
Speaker 3: I'm always about to cover specially thought to see.
Speaker 4: But guess what, them big boys, they just they look
Speaker 4: the part. They are the part. This is what we
Speaker 4: spent most of our draft capital at. Those guys are
Speaker 4: said in the tone, it's getting to the point sometimes
Speaker 4: we can't even watch practice because they are ruining it.
Speaker 4: They are ruining practice the defense. So I'm dominating. And
Speaker 4: I was just talking to Jack del Rio out there today,
Speaker 4: He's like he got the smirk.
Speaker 3: On his face.
Speaker 4: He can't smirk that he can get us anything that
Speaker 4: he wants to call. And like he said, you know,
Speaker 4: smooth like every training camp, the defense we started faster
Speaker 4: than him because our plays are are pretty much isolated
Speaker 4: plays and we can run and we can go play fast.
Speaker 4: Where they got to get that timing down. But he
Speaker 4: was like, at the end of the day, we are
Speaker 4: setting the tone. We are dominating, and I expect for
Speaker 4: them to dominate. And it ain't nothing like a defensive
Speaker 4: when he got his dogs and he got his people
Speaker 4: that he trusts, because football all about trust.
Speaker 3: You keep hearing that.
Speaker 2: Obviously these guys are good, but that definitely makes the
Speaker 2: secondary makes their job easy.
Speaker 4: How much is if I had a D line like this,
Speaker 4: I would have never backed up and I could have
Speaker 4: played with a been down on my eyes.
Speaker 3: I didn't need nothing. I could applied.
Speaker 4: I could have played blind with this defensive line because
Speaker 4: at the end.
Speaker 3: Of the day, we are tailored.
Speaker 4: My success is tailing to the defensive line. Like quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in NFL don't make mistakes. Uncomfortable quarterbacks make mistakes, right, well,
Speaker 4: my D line is gonna be the reason that they
Speaker 4: are uncomfortable. My d line gonna be the reason that
Speaker 4: they throwing out their back foot. Are they throwing at
Speaker 4: a tab bit too early? Then they supposed to do it.
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, man, you were
Speaker 4: full of saint juice. They you're gonna make your money
Speaker 4: with this defensive line. And no, don't just talk about
Speaker 4: you know, everybody talk about pain, everybody talk about Hall.
Speaker 4: Don't forget about them too defensive. Listen to me, Chase
Speaker 4: Young will have his best year as a produce. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go out that contract years, some of our contract
Speaker 4: years to do it.
Speaker 3: For now I know it.
Speaker 4: Like, if you ever want to see the best of
Speaker 4: friend smooth, put me in a contract year, Jinx what
Speaker 4: you do, put me in.
Speaker 3: A contract Yeah, you can get the best out of me.
Speaker 4: And Sweat is another guy that he's been right there,
Speaker 4: like right there at fifteen secs right there because he's
Speaker 4: touching the quarterback. And every chance I think this is
Speaker 4: the year that he turns into the Montes Sweat. We
Speaker 4: know he can be.
Speaker 1: It is to get podcast red s Michael Jenkins presented
Speaker 1: by a seat geek. So it took what I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the clock here, it took about five six minutes
Speaker 1: to get to Emanuel Forbes. But listen, performance is performance.
Speaker 1: It's not just you. Everyone's saying this guy looks like
Speaker 1: the real deal.
Speaker 4: I told you he was the real deal. Listen, I'm
Speaker 4: not a shoe salesman. I'm not at Bundy, but but
Speaker 4: I can tell football tally like I'm not biased. I
Speaker 4: was never biased for him going to Missippi State with
Speaker 4: breaking my rep because with him doing all the stuff.
Speaker 3: He's doing, I was looking at the player.
Speaker 4: I legitly said, I think he's the best cornerback in
Speaker 4: college football.
Speaker 3: And his interceptions, if you go back and study.
Speaker 4: Him, they are not what I call in the play
Speaker 4: interceptions mean you may the right decision, you backpedal the right,
Speaker 4: you did everything you need to do, you got the interception.
Speaker 4: He studies for these interceptions, like the interception in Kentucky
Speaker 4: against Will Levies on the screenplay, Like that's because he studied,
Speaker 4: he believed what he studied, and he put it on
Speaker 4: film like this's the thing that he does. And he's
Speaker 4: silky smooth and he's light as a feather. I tell
Speaker 4: people all the time, it's harder. Go outside. Right now,
Speaker 4: grab a rock and grab a berry feather. Try to
Speaker 4: throw both of them. See which one of you throw?
Speaker 4: The father right the feather you cannot throw, and he
Speaker 4: is that feather. I hit one hundred and seventy five
Speaker 4: pounds and guess what talking to Damn Green.
Speaker 3: Damn Green got here.
Speaker 4: He was one hundred and seventy four pounds. My first
Speaker 4: way in I was one seventy five. We really one
Speaker 4: seventy five. I'm gonna tell you something too, Jinx. I
Speaker 4: don't tell many people this. I went in the weight
Speaker 4: room and I tried to put like five pound weights
Speaker 4: in my uh like in my shorts, and Redman my
Speaker 4: training at the time, he was like, boy, you wanna
Speaker 4: take this.
Speaker 3: Story of that.
Speaker 4: Hey, I was one hundred and seventy five pounds and
Speaker 4: he told me, then, it ain't about your weight, about
Speaker 4: your game. And I tell you that. I told Manuel
Speaker 4: four this. If they can't hate on your game, they'll
Speaker 4: hate on your frame. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: just go out there and ball out. And that's what
Speaker 4: he does. That's what he does.
Speaker 2: So what was your welcome to the NFL moment in
Speaker 2: training camp? Because for as the rookie, you were there
Speaker 2: one time and this is that time of year when
Speaker 2: you learned real quick the difference between college NFL.
Speaker 3: Oh you real well?
Speaker 4: My thing was I held out for like three four
Speaker 4: days for extra money like this.
Speaker 3: That's how irrogant of a rookie I was.
Speaker 4: And then when I got to training camp in colli Oude, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 4: Marty Seanhaemer was my coach, and Marty was like, you know.
Speaker 3: What we already know.
Speaker 4: He couls cover my first day of practice and he
Speaker 4: was like, put him at middle linebacker.
Speaker 3: I'm like what what?
Speaker 4: He like, Yes, we're finna do gold line and put
Speaker 4: him at middle linebacker and let's see can he tackle?
Speaker 4: And Donee Bennett is the full back and Stephen Davis
Speaker 4: is the tail back.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I get in the huddle. Bruce Smith
Speaker 3: look at me and.
Speaker 4: Say, you know what, boy, don't wait on them, go
Speaker 4: die in that hole, meaning.
Speaker 3: Go a hell be the aggressor go diwn here.
Speaker 4: For four five plays, I just rammed in there like
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. All I know I got
Speaker 4: destroyed in there, destroyed in there, but I kept getting
Speaker 4: back up, and I think that's what he wanted to see.
Speaker 4: He took me down through that and then not only
Speaker 4: after that, after that hard practice that I had, I
Speaker 4: started to walk back to me to the dorm room
Speaker 4: where we were staying in, and as I walked through,
Speaker 4: I was like I started to see shoes on the
Speaker 4: ground and pillows on the ground, Like.
Speaker 3: I got shoes, look just like that. I got a shirt,
Speaker 3: looked like that.
Speaker 4: I get in my room. They venceed and through all
Speaker 4: of my stuff after wonder, all of my clothes, all
Speaker 4: of my shoes, my TV, everything is just laying on
Speaker 4: the grain. So I started getting haze like very quickly.
Speaker 4: They was really at me. I had fun though, and
Speaker 4: I knew they like, like Coach shot Iven told me,
Speaker 4: they only do it because they like you.
Speaker 1: Right now, that's true. That's a of almost like your
Speaker 1: part of team.
Speaker 4: You like you, you rookie, you starting, Yeah, they gonna
Speaker 4: give you a little heat.
Speaker 1: So when you talk about just running hitting the hole
Speaker 1: like that, you know you're gonna get killed. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kids, So how much of that?
Speaker 3: It's just like I got to under respect I.
Speaker 1: Got right now, Well.
Speaker 3: He's gonna think about it.
Speaker 4: I think this is what we realized very quickly coming
Speaker 4: from college is these are grown men and what I
Speaker 4: did was I realized, like, like it takes like three
Speaker 4: or four weeks for you to wipe the starscruck out
Speaker 4: off of you, Like I would just sit and watch
Speaker 4: they are green, Like I was just amazed that I'm
Speaker 4: on the team with Dale Green and Bruce Smith, Like
Speaker 4: it took three four weeks for me to wipe that off.
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, I gotta go
Speaker 3: earn these guys respect.
Speaker 4: I got to go show them that Fred smooth and
Speaker 4: play football and now I only play football. I got
Speaker 4: to show them that I could play on the level.
Speaker 4: And I would just remember. I sit down and I
Speaker 4: talked to Davis's Green and I was like, Daryl, how
Speaker 4: do you keep a job for twenty years?
Speaker 3: Everybody's going after yours? Yes, And he said, you know
Speaker 3: what's smooth? He was like, what's my backup name? I
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know your backup name, like cause
Speaker 3: I never let him play and it's simple.
Speaker 4: Like when he told me that, I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna miss any games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's how I always was.
Speaker 4: I never missed a game in high school. I never
Speaker 4: missed a game in college. I didn't miss my first
Speaker 4: pro game until like my sixth year in the league,
Speaker 4: Like I just never missed games. Like the best ability
Speaker 4: is availability. Can't you be there for me? And Darrel
Speaker 4: Green told me that in one statement, He's like, you
Speaker 4: don't know my backup name, and you'll never know my
Speaker 4: backup name.
Speaker 5: Oh God, I love that. That's why he's a Hall
Speaker 5: of Famer right now. That's why he's there Green, Like
Speaker 5: at the end of the day. And I've been I'm
Speaker 5: a sponge, I'm a leech. I like to I like
Speaker 5: to soak up just knowledge from people. So and that's
Speaker 5: so usually talk to you if you if you sit
Speaker 5: down and talk to me. And most rookies ain't as
Speaker 5: talkative as I am.
Speaker 4: I came in. I'm talkative. I asked questions. I don't
Speaker 4: really care. And you gotta realize my first dB room,
Speaker 4: I walked out of it when I walked in there.
Speaker 4: When I first walked in my dB room, I had
Speaker 4: dal Green, Dion Sander's champ Bailey. There's a three yellow jackets, God,
Speaker 4: three yellow jackets intimidated.
Speaker 3: You had to be Oh, Mark carried your sam shake,
Speaker 3: I'm carry it. You love them. I walked out.
Speaker 4: I walked in there and I walked back out of
Speaker 4: there and I asked Mary Shane, why did you draft me?
Speaker 4: He was like, son, go go in that room. We
Speaker 4: drafted you for a reason. All right, go in there.
Speaker 3: Learn everything you can learn. You you the future.
Speaker 4: But it was just so it wasn't intimidating, timid, but
Speaker 4: it was like it was it showed me what the
Speaker 4: league is about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when did you feel like, all right, now
Speaker 1: I met it. Maybe it wasn't your rookie season, but
Speaker 1: when was it when you felt like, okay, I belong here.
Speaker 4: I felt in preseason immediately, usually immediately I felt like
Speaker 4: I belonged through practice. Checking my grisp, Rod Gardner. I
Speaker 4: had already dominated him in college, so I wasn't worried
Speaker 4: about him. My first preseason game was Kansas City. Martin
Speaker 4: Marty was my coach Kansas City, and they tried to
Speaker 4: throw three fade routes in a row on me in
Speaker 4: the goal line with Snoop Minice, which was another rookie
Speaker 4: at that time. I broke up all three of them.
Speaker 4: Then I knew, I said, you know what, I not
Speaker 4: only belong I could dominate it. I could dominate it time.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite story from your rookie season.
Speaker 1: Could be someone else, it could be you where you
Speaker 1: just look.
Speaker 3: Back and think, I can't believe that happened my rookie season.
Speaker 4: Well, probably my first game, okay, my first game of
Speaker 4: the year, my rookie year San Diego. We went played
Speaker 4: the Chargers Doug Flutie. I remember being in this game
Speaker 4: and watching the game because when I'm not on the field,
Speaker 4: I still like, really pay attention to the game, and
Speaker 4: Junior say, oh God, bless you NATed. Listen to me.
Speaker 4: I thought it was three of him out there, like
Speaker 4: every player. All I heard was juniors say I on
Speaker 4: attack of Junior say, I'm like, I said, how many?
Speaker 3: How many of them?
Speaker 1: Is? It?
Speaker 4: Like? Dominated the game? And I went out there and
Speaker 4: have a very imprinsive game. I got my first interception,
Speaker 4: I got a fund of recovery, I had like eight
Speaker 4: tagers I was I got like defensive player of the week.
Speaker 4: So that was the game that just did it for me.
Speaker 4: I was stockscruck, but at the same time out there
Speaker 4: held in my business. But it was like surreal to me.
Speaker 4: It was from the national anthem to everything, and I
Speaker 4: never forget playing on that dirt field listen the old y'all,
Speaker 4: listen to me. The worst field in football I had, Like,
Speaker 4: I was like, this cannot be pro football. I had
Speaker 4: just left their sec you know.
Speaker 1: It's the worst of like the vet.
Speaker 3: It was worse than the vet.
Speaker 4: The only thing that made the vet worse it had
Speaker 4: a jail house at the bottom up.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that made the vent work.
Speaker 4: But really like a real jau like yo. Philly fans
Speaker 4: looked at that as a badge of curve pride in
Speaker 4: the fact that I spent the weekend in jail. All right,
Speaker 4: look Mike Rookie him at of fact, we had a
Speaker 4: game got stopped on Monday night because there was a
Speaker 4: fight in the stands at the bit and they took
Speaker 4: everybody to jail downstairs.
Speaker 2: Weren't there players. I remember hearing about this that you
Speaker 2: couldn't take your families. No, you just couldn't do.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget, like at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: note that we was told early do not bring your
Speaker 4: family to Philadelphy is just not safe.
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking in my head, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: Until I played there and then I understand And these
Speaker 4: are the same people that boot Santa Claus and beat
Speaker 4: up the Easter Bunny.
Speaker 3: So we know that these people do not care about people.
Speaker 3: They don't care.
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Speaker 1: by Seat Geek. So you actually, I cannot believe this.
Speaker 1: You actually roomed, yeah, your rookie season with your former
Speaker 1: high school and college team.
Speaker 4: Yes, I did, Yes, I did. The funny thing about it,
Speaker 4: my college. I mean my high school. We got four
Speaker 4: of us made it to the NFL.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's crazy right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, three of us played for the same team, Mississippi State.
Speaker 3: We went to the same college.
Speaker 4: Jamal Dinkins which was my tailback, fullback and linebacker in
Speaker 4: high school. He played linebacker in Missisippi State. He also
Speaker 4: came here as a free agent college free agent and
Speaker 4: I got drafted.
Speaker 3: Here and we was roommates from the time gets hold.
Speaker 3: The familiarity was.
Speaker 4: There and just to go this long voyage together, I
Speaker 4: think meant everything to us and it's a part of
Speaker 4: who we are.
Speaker 3: And you got realized.
Speaker 4: School team had Tommy Kelly, which was the detailer for
Speaker 4: the Oakland Raiders and the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3: He was on my team.
Speaker 4: So we had like we was packed with talent. You'll
Speaker 4: never forget that. When we checked in ninth grade, I
Speaker 4: was ninety pounds.
Speaker 3: Jamal Deacons was two hundred and twenty in ninth grade.
Speaker 3: Ninth grade, he la a Scotson.
Speaker 4: I looked at him and said, if this is what
Speaker 4: football fen to be, I'm going to be a doctor.
Speaker 3: This is the way it's gonna go. Doctor, Like they're
Speaker 3: going to make sure.
Speaker 4: That I have a pen in my hand. Like he
Speaker 4: was just the biggest human being I had ever seen.
Speaker 3: In my life.
Speaker 1: If you're a doctor, what kind of doctor would you be? Ah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like doctor phil Oprah.
Speaker 4: You know what, more of a more of a psychologist, Oh,
Speaker 4: not a physical doctor. Like I don't do well with
Speaker 4: smells and I don't do well with blood. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: would think a football player be good. You would think
Speaker 4: for blood, I see my smell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't. I don't do them well. But
Speaker 3: I am mental. I love to like. I went to
Speaker 3: school for psychology.
Speaker 4: I got a minor in psycholo that yeah, broadcast communication
Speaker 4: is my major psychology. So I learned people and learned
Speaker 4: how to talk trash to them. That was my plan
Speaker 4: when I made it to college. But at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, I like to like get in the
Speaker 4: psyche of people, See what people are thinking, See where
Speaker 4: you were at mentally, see what I can learn from
Speaker 4: you and what you can learn from me. This is
Speaker 4: what I would have been. I would have been more
Speaker 4: of a shrink. I would have been doctor feel good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: doctor feel good, doctor feel good.
Speaker 3: Jenkins.
Speaker 1: Do you think that helped you in the pros seriously,
Speaker 1: because you know how much of the game, of any
Speaker 1: game is mental.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you study psychology or being someone who was
Speaker 2: interested in the mental part of just life.
Speaker 4: That that help you in someone in football? Yeah, help
Speaker 4: me be professor x I listen. It helped me not
Speaker 4: ever get too high on myself. Okay, never ever get
Speaker 4: too low on myself. And you see it now with players.
Speaker 4: A lot of players go through what they call you know,
Speaker 4: go through their mental ups and downs, and they need
Speaker 4: these wells. Like I was prepared for this. I was
Speaker 4: prepared for the harshness of the NFL. I was prepared
Speaker 4: for the good part of the NFL. But the one
Speaker 4: thing I can say that just studying psychology did for me,
Speaker 4: it helped me learn that it takes a lot of
Speaker 4: energy to be somebody else.
Speaker 3: It takes no energy to be your self.
Speaker 4: Oh I love that alright, sole the lessons right now,
Speaker 4: because I'm a shrink, I should be charging you by
Speaker 4: the house right now.
Speaker 3: But it showed me just don't ever.
Speaker 4: Get too far ahead of yourself living and now Enjoydan.
Speaker 4: Now the pass is in stone, but the future is clay.
Speaker 4: It can be molded.
Speaker 2: I love that all right, So let's talk about molding
Speaker 2: your future. And if you're a young guy, you're trying
Speaker 2: to make it to the NFL, you've been there.
Speaker 1: How much easier or is it easier? When people say, oh,
Speaker 1: if you're in the SEC, if you're in the Big ten,
Speaker 1: it's easier to make the transition. Then if you're in
Speaker 1: the AAC, is that overstated?
Speaker 3: Is that true? No, that's true.
Speaker 4: The SEC is the minor league of them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm sorry, Like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Tell you how actually when we come from the SEC,
Speaker 4: when we play in stadiums in the NFL, it's a downgrade.
Speaker 3: I stadiums. I've heard that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think of pure attention the truth I've.
Speaker 4: Been say, like, the stadiums are huge, they are upscale.
Speaker 4: You're talking about going to Alabama with ninety five thousand,
Speaker 4: You talking about Death Valley with one.
Speaker 3: Hundred thousand people. Tell you're talking Georgia, You're talking Florida. Like,
Speaker 3: these are not environments that you just walk in. You
Speaker 3: gotta realize LSU.
Speaker 4: The reason that we play mostly night games at LSU
Speaker 4: because it's too hot during the day. Just why they
Speaker 4: usually play the games at night and you go in there,
Speaker 4: it's just to smell the stench of nothing but crawfish,
Speaker 4: cigars and beer. I'm talking about. It's different. Like then,
Speaker 4: not only do they do this, they put the tiger
Speaker 4: in a cage right next to your locker room.
Speaker 3: So when you walk out the locker room and say, lo.
Speaker 4: They do that on purpose, youre right there trying to
Speaker 4: intimidate you.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, only in the SEC where you get
Speaker 3: this right here? So I think the one thing the
Speaker 3: environments are very loud.
Speaker 4: I've played in places like Alabama where it got so
Speaker 4: loud I could feel the ground shaken beneath my feet.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Every play I can feel the ground like I was, like,
Speaker 4: the Richter scale is off the medal right now. So
Speaker 4: the environment plus the athletes. Like the athletes, you can
Speaker 4: talk about all the guys that made it. I think
Speaker 4: when you talk about this SEC, you gotta talk about
Speaker 4: the guys that didn't make it.
Speaker 3: It's so many, it's a lot. It's just so many guys.
Speaker 4: And in beginning Sunday, somebody can have your number. And
Speaker 4: I think we know each other so much because.
Speaker 3: We went to camps.
Speaker 4: We've all touched bases, and cross paths at certain points
Speaker 4: in our life. So when we do, when I do
Speaker 4: meet the dunte Stylesworths of the world, like we've already
Speaker 4: been there and we already got these grudge matches against
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 2: I've heard this before and I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is true, but you can clarify for me that pro athletes,
Speaker 2: when they get together and talk, they'll talk some pros.
Speaker 3: But if they play the other college, they talk about college.
Speaker 3: We love college, Okay. College is pros. Is playing for yourself.
Speaker 3: It's a job. You're an independent country.
Speaker 1: Yeh.
Speaker 4: College, you're playing for a campus. You're playing for history.
Speaker 4: You're planning to be a part of history. Everybody. Now
Speaker 4: we divide each other about what college you're going to do,
Speaker 4: Like college is everything.
Speaker 3: That's your family, that's your future family.
Speaker 4: Like now, when I sit out there and I talk
Speaker 4: to Montagne sweat and I talk to Manuel for we bulldog.
Speaker 4: We an't in college and we call each other bulldog.
Speaker 4: So it's a brotherhood that's forever.
Speaker 3: And we got other.
Speaker 4: People joining that family every year, from the student body
Speaker 4: to new athletes every year. So that's why when we
Speaker 4: say we sec that's what we say at games we
Speaker 4: are to SEC. We mean that it's us against everybody
Speaker 4: else and welcome, welcome a longhand let's go back where
Speaker 4: let's welcome, Welcome back home. That's what I gotta say. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we come back home where y'all belong. Oh man, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be great. How do you feel about the future
Speaker 4: of Texas in the SEC.
Speaker 2: Here's what I feel like. I feel like that we're
Speaker 2: gonna be all right because we got the money. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but also I am very aware of the fact.
Speaker 3: That the SEC is the SEC.
Speaker 2: Texas has struggled for ten years in the Big twelve,
Speaker 2: so I think this is the year. But everybody's been
Speaker 2: saying that for the last decade. We're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: We're prepared for it. I think in the right way.
Speaker 2: I like suck, but I know what's coming.
Speaker 4: Well, you got you got, you got queen and yours
Speaker 4: the quarterback then yeah, I think he'll be your first
Speaker 4: round pick.
Speaker 3: You got arch Man in, you got arch Man. Come on, man,
Speaker 3: you gotta be feeling good. I feel arch Man and the.
Speaker 2: Fact that he wanted to go to Texas is huge
Speaker 2: and he didn't take a diamond. People say, oh, sure,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to his family's multi millionaire again and
Speaker 2: again and again.
Speaker 4: The jenaity in their family is ritten right, right, if
Speaker 4: you a man and you are, he's fine.
Speaker 3: But I'm not just saying.
Speaker 4: The one thing I think y'all will not have a
Speaker 4: problem with is recruit y'all just won't have them just
Speaker 4: being in Texas now, I think Oklahoma is gonna be
Speaker 4: for open for a wild hope.
Speaker 3: You're right, rude away, You're right. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard for them to recruit and keep
Speaker 4: up recruiting because one thing they don't recruit well now
Speaker 4: is defense.
Speaker 3: Like they've never been a defensive team. That's right. If
Speaker 3: they're a awful and if you don't play defense in
Speaker 3: the SEC, you don't win. So what's gonna happen now?
Speaker 2: Because as we're recording this and what a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago, Washington and Oregon are going to the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: I can't wait until Washington has to go to Rutgers
Speaker 2: or whatever it's gonna be. We're headed, I mean, we're
Speaker 2: steaming towards like the super Conference in.
Speaker 3: College for we are three three, Like exactly now, whatnails?
Speaker 3: Who is the Dead Conference? Is it? The PAC twelve,
Speaker 3: PAC twelve, is it the Big twelve? It's the Pack
Speaker 3: Twelve's done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say the PAC twelve is done, and
Speaker 4: I think it's all about TV deals now, it's all
Speaker 4: about TV deals. I think the PAC. This is what
Speaker 4: I heard from from the PAC twelve. They got to
Speaker 4: offer from Apple to streaming service. Yeah, for like ten dollars.
Speaker 4: It was the worst deal of all time, Like nobody
Speaker 4: wants to see.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: What I can say about the Big ten is now
Speaker 4: the Big ten is finna try to fight with the
Speaker 4: SEC By being by coastal Gonna, They're gonna actually be
Speaker 4: able to start a game at twelve o'clock am noon
Speaker 4: on the East coast and still have a ten o'clock
Speaker 4: game on the West coast.
Speaker 3: So they will play all day long.
Speaker 4: While we are in the Southeastern Conference, we will only
Speaker 4: be playing till like eight o'clock, nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: What's gonna be fascinated too, is when they eventually expand
Speaker 1: the playoff.
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be Are they gonna give a little
Speaker 2: credit to the ACC or is it gonna be Big
Speaker 2: ten SEC?
Speaker 1: Because you know the eight those teams are trying to
Speaker 1: leave too. No, No, they're trying to leave right now.
Speaker 4: The ACC is that comforts that just just dare They
Speaker 4: just dare at the prum. Nobody's dancing at them, but
Speaker 4: they there at the prom like we don't know what
Speaker 4: then CEC I mean, ACC is gonna be And that's
Speaker 4: why my big question for the SEC is who are
Speaker 4: you gonna steal? Do you want Florida State and Clemson?
Speaker 4: Do you want North Carolina and Georgia Tech, Because you
Speaker 4: you might want Georgia Tech as a tech school into
Speaker 4: your conference GPAs up different blend the ball. Plus you
Speaker 4: want to be able to give Georgia some recruiting competition
Speaker 4: in Georgia because now Georgia is the only SEC school
Speaker 4: in Georgia.
Speaker 3: If you put Georgia Tech.
Speaker 4: And they're not too like everybody else, so everybody else, Mississtate, Old,
Speaker 4: Miss Alabama, Auburn, all of it. Florida Also if they
Speaker 4: put Florida State in, I have Florida and Florida State.
Speaker 1: So we're e side about the NFL. Weorkside about college football.
Speaker 1: When we're not watching those what are you watching?
Speaker 4: I'm watching everything. Listen about Righteous Gymstone is one of
Speaker 4: my favorite.
Speaker 3: I have not seen it.
Speaker 4: Listen, it's hilarious, Like I love the last My dad
Speaker 4: is a preacher also, so.
Speaker 3: I get the mega church thing.
Speaker 1: You looking at me like, I was like, sometimes you
Speaker 1: look at me and you go jinks.
Speaker 3: I'm a sinner. I am.
Speaker 4: Listen at the end of the day, my daddy is
Speaker 4: a preacher. I'm a preacher's kid. I'm a PK. That's
Speaker 4: what they call us pre ks. I'm good with that.
Speaker 4: I understand. The Good Book.
Speaker 3: Righteous Gymstone is one of my favorites.
Speaker 4: I love it. What else I got going on? I
Speaker 4: did watch the new Transformer movie.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was all right.
Speaker 4: I liked it because you know what, we got nostylegic
Speaker 4: from the old day. We watched the cartoons, so I
Speaker 4: got to watch the Beast Wars and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So to see that brought the light. I thought it
Speaker 4: was good. I ain't think you got a lot of
Speaker 4: love like it should have got. But Guards of the
Speaker 4: Galaxy three is one of my favorite Marvel moves out.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Marvel guy. I love Marvel.
Speaker 1: Did you see the I feel like this would be
Speaker 1: up your alley, like the documentary on the American Gladiators.
Speaker 4: Yes, that was great, listen. I didn't know by watching
Speaker 4: it high injured they got all.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize too that early on there was no padding.
Speaker 2: We were talking about bass teams like that, that it was
Speaker 2: just concrete. Yes, they had those games early, no idea
Speaker 2: what they were doing.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what type of games they was prying.
Speaker 4: That what I'm saying like it was one of those
Speaker 4: shows based off appearance, because you need to be buffed
Speaker 4: female I male. You need to look like throw her
Speaker 4: to be on it. But then it was also testing
Speaker 4: your athletic priority. Usually the guys that goes gym they're
Speaker 4: not great athletes. They're great weightlifters, but they're not great athletes.
Speaker 4: They can't run around with all the new and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. But I did watch it. I thought it
Speaker 4: was It brought an insight that we haven't had into it.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't have guy.
Speaker 4: I would have taken American gladiators over wrestling. Once I
Speaker 4: found out wrestling was fake, it broke my heart.
Speaker 1: I used to think I swear to God because do
Speaker 1: you remember the van Erks. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember the varn I'm a big.
Speaker 3: Coco b ware.
Speaker 4: I'm Okay, so you know they're coming out with the
Speaker 4: Van Eric movie in December called The Iron Claw, and
Speaker 4: Zach Efron is gonna play Kevin van Erk.
Speaker 3: Oh he is?
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: He?
Speaker 3: Can't he get buff enough.
Speaker 1: To do that.
Speaker 2: I've seen the picks like he looks pretty big. So
Speaker 2: I love the Von. I did a story with Kevin
Speaker 2: Is twenty years ago. I spent two days on his
Speaker 2: ranch with him. So I love wrestling.
Speaker 1: But the reason why I mentioned that is their primary
Speaker 1: rival was Rick flet and I hate.
Speaker 4: Nobody hates Rick Flen. Listen, I was a British bull dog. Okay,
Speaker 4: I love the Ultimate Warrior. I love Coco be well, listen,
Speaker 4: I love them all. Like wrestling just had this nostalgia
Speaker 4: to it in the nineties, different than like now, I
Speaker 4: cannot I will not watch it now. But yeah, back then,
Speaker 4: I thought the characters the million Dollar Man like. The
Speaker 4: characters were just so in depth in what they did
Speaker 4: and they and they they, they showed the character. They
Speaker 4: play your card and that's what I love.
Speaker 2: What got me was and the reason why I could
Speaker 2: never accept that it wasn't real was the blood because
Speaker 2: I didn't realize, you know, they put the razor, you know,
Speaker 2: taping on the inside and then scraped their head like
Speaker 2: that and they're bleeding.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's bleeding. How can that be fake? He's bleeding,
Speaker 1: you know. So if I see Rick Clair bleeding going no,
Speaker 1: you know, see it on his knees and then he
Speaker 1: pulled something on you, I was like, that's real.
Speaker 3: Oh no, listen if Andre the Giant body slam you.
Speaker 4: This reason now, well we got lost in the Shepherd
Speaker 4: was the fact that they're protecting each other. Like so
Speaker 4: then I started to say, nah, look at it more
Speaker 4: as a sport because they do have to protect each other.
Speaker 3: And they are athletes, and they are athlete.
Speaker 4: Now I'm not gonna take that away from him, but
Speaker 4: they also is scripted. Yes, so Hogan having that championship
Speaker 4: for thirty three years with scripted, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: And also, you know he would never beat the Giant.
Speaker 3: You know what Macho Man ran to Savage.
Speaker 4: I did watch I did watch it, I think on
Speaker 4: Netflix where they broke it down and who Holgan.
Speaker 3: Macho Man came to my room and he could never
Speaker 3: turn it out.
Speaker 4: So he would like, oh like he couldn't hol what
Speaker 4: you doing?
Speaker 3: Like he could not turn off the character. Is that right? Hold?
Speaker 4: Like he wasan of my best friends, but he just
Speaker 4: could ever turn it out, Like he could not turn
Speaker 4: off the macho man, ran his savage for it up.
Speaker 1: When I was in college, the best class I ever took.
Speaker 3: There was a class called History.
Speaker 2: Of Pro Wrestling, and our instructor was Terry Todd, who
Speaker 2: taught Mark Henry or Mark Henry, I do so all
Speaker 2: and this was there were a ton of football players
Speaker 2: in this class, and we would watch. He would say,
Speaker 2: all right, today's assigmon is we're gonna watch WrestleMania and
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a test at the end of the week.
Speaker 3: And it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: And so I sit there and watch WrestleMania and the
Speaker 2: questions were who body slammed Andre Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that class.
Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan is the only person to body slam on Dreden.
Speaker 2: And I think he told a story where after like
Speaker 2: he could feel the past.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, come on, you haveing four hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: Oh he was like six, come on, man, like he
Speaker 1: wants six.
Speaker 3: He was huge. Imagine practicing that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they couldn't have they couldn't like I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like hook had to be, Like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull this off, and if I don't, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna bet at Billy Suplex and my mom.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something to change the game. Right now,
Speaker 3: you're changing the game.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's great to be with you on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Give me one thing before we wrap things up. They're
Speaker 2: looking forward to coming up the training camp.
Speaker 4: Well, all I'm looking for right now is Sam Howe's progress.
Speaker 3: This all thing about.
Speaker 4: And I don't care about the defense being in front
Speaker 4: of the offense at this point in time because we
Speaker 4: always in front of them at this point in time. Like,
Speaker 4: I want to see his maturation. I want to see
Speaker 4: him get better each in there every day. The more
Speaker 4: and more I study him.
Speaker 3: The more and more he reminds me of Tony Romo.
Speaker 3: Tony Romo with.
Speaker 4: The conta athlete that most people gave him credit for,
Speaker 4: very elusive in the pocket, can make every throw.
Speaker 3: Sam Howe has the.
Speaker 4: Same body type, he has the same arm strength, and
Speaker 4: he has the same athletic ability. So if you're telling
Speaker 4: me he Tony Romo, I think we got a chance
Speaker 4: to win.
Speaker 1: He take that every other week cowboys aside talent.
Speaker 3: Why you take the other listen? I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't get mad at who used to be married with.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, that's who I
Speaker 4: look at him and I have went head to head
Speaker 4: with Tony a million times.
Speaker 3: I got plenty of respect for him.
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