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Speaker 1: Coming up on me Get Loud Podcasts, presented by Seat Geek,

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Speaker 1: Jink Smooth.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we got a little bit of everything. Started with

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Speaker 2: defensive line and secondary for the commanders. Oh, most definitely

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Speaker 2: loved those groups.

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Speaker 1: Oh and those sea Beasts. I remember when you walked

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Speaker 1: into a room you were a rookie.

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Speaker 3: Yar, we gotta hear that story.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, I had the senders Dale, Green, Chimp Bailey,

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Speaker 4: everybody got Yellow Jackie Pacimply.

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Speaker 2: Plus college football Allier Alignment. And we go off on wrestling.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I love wrestling, Coco be Ware, this is my dude,

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Fly Snooker.

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Speaker 3: I love them all.

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Speaker 1: That's next, time to Get Loud podcasting. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: first ever Get Loud podcast Michael Jenkins, Fritz Smooth, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Seat Geek. And we're trying to describe

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Speaker 1: what is gonna be about, and it was tom foolery, debauchery, bachery,

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Speaker 1: Get loud.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna were gonna say what we want to say,

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna say it very loudly and very proudly.

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Speaker 4: All right, Shenanigans a little bit of flashing it to

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Speaker 4: make the drink good.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta ask you.

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Speaker 2: Of course we're talking about training. Can we talk about

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Speaker 2: what you've been doing? You have to feel good about

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Speaker 2: whenever you take a break. I notice I'll go online

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Speaker 2: and look at the YouTube stuff that we do Command

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Speaker 2: Center training camp, and the first thing everyone says.

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Speaker 3: Is, we're smooth. We're smooth.

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Speaker 1: Where smooth?

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Speaker 3: Where you been?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I had to deal with the

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Speaker 4: ex wife. So at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 4: had to go.

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Speaker 3: Take care of my bending. Plus I had actually lost

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Speaker 3: my voice.

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Speaker 4: I think the old of them getting jinks I'm developing

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Speaker 4: a dairy like I don't respond to milk the way

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Speaker 4: or something to milk. And I love milk like I'm

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Speaker 4: wonder the people like I will drink it. Ninety degree

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Speaker 4: driggers are like under a special umbrella.

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Speaker 3: Yes we are, Yes, we are.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm stilling one of them or not,

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Speaker 4: Like I think I'm getting let toolson tolerant.

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Speaker 1: Okay, does it affect your voice or anything like?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it did make my voice. It made it made

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Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I need to step away

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Speaker 4: from the milk for a second. So now I'm drinking

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Speaker 4: like one percent milk right now.

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Speaker 2: You can't give it up completely, No, I can't give

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Speaker 2: it up, but I'm addicted to it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're backing everyone else's glide your back.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about training camp, everyone's says the kids

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Speaker 2: say the vibes. What are the vibes like when you

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Speaker 2: you see the cheam practice with the vibes like here.

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Speaker 4: Energy energy, energy, energy, the rebirth. We've been a sleeping

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Speaker 4: giant for so long, like the only thing. I ain't

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Speaker 4: even focused on the players. I've only been focused on

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Speaker 4: focused on the energy. I've been focused on the families.

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Speaker 4: Like I've seen fans. But now I'm starting to see

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Speaker 4: the young fans come back out like the.

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Speaker 3: Three year olds.

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Speaker 4: Some kids throwing past it out there. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 4: that when coach Gibbs was here. He was big on family.

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Speaker 4: We got that back in Washington football at his finest.

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Speaker 4: When I made it here, no one the fan base

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Speaker 1: And I think it's almost come full circle too. You

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, nostalgia is everything.

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Speaker 4: Like if you ever want to sell somebody something, you

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Speaker 3: And that's what it's about, he remembers.

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Speaker 4: And that's like the one thing we forget about sports

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Speaker 4: is it's the ultimate reality show. It's the longest running

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Speaker 4: brings everybody together. It brings down people together under one roof,

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Speaker 4: under one caught against the team? Are you cheating for

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Speaker 2: So we know the fans are excited and it definitely

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Speaker 1: What's one group? Right now that you've been a pressbury.

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Speaker 4: You gotta talk about this d line like you know

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Speaker 3: I'm always about to cover specially thought to see.

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Speaker 4: But guess what, them big boys, they just they look

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Speaker 4: the part. They are the part. This is what we

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Speaker 4: They are ruining practice the defense. So I'm dominating. And

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Speaker 4: I was just talking to Jack del Rio out there today,

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Speaker 4: He can't smirk that he can get us anything that

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Speaker 4: smooth like every training camp, the defense we started faster

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Speaker 4: Where they got to get that timing down. But he

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Speaker 3: You keep hearing that.

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Speaker 2: Obviously these guys are good, but that definitely makes the

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Speaker 4: How much is if I had a D line like this,

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Speaker 4: I would have never backed up and I could have

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Speaker 3: I didn't need nothing. I could applied.

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Speaker 4: I could have played blind with this defensive line because

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Speaker 3: Of the day, we are tailored.

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Speaker 4: My success is tailing to the defensive line. Like quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: in NFL don't make mistakes. Uncomfortable quarterbacks make mistakes, right, well,

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Speaker 4: my D line is gonna be the reason that they

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Speaker 4: they throwing out their back foot. Are they throwing at

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Speaker 4: a tab bit too early? Then they supposed to do it.

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Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, man, you were

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Speaker 4: Don't forget about them too defensive. Listen to me, Chase

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Speaker 4: Young will have his best year as a produce. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna go out that contract years, some of our contract

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Speaker 3: For now I know it.

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Speaker 4: Like, if you ever want to see the best of

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Speaker 3: A contract Yeah, you can get the best out of me.

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Speaker 4: And Sweat is another guy that he's been right there,

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Speaker 4: the year that he turns into the Montes Sweat. We

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Speaker 1: It is to get podcast red s Michael Jenkins presented

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Speaker 1: by a seat geek. So it took what I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the clock here, it took about five six minutes

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Speaker 1: to get to Emanuel Forbes. But listen, performance is performance.

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Speaker 1: It's not just you. Everyone's saying this guy looks like

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Speaker 4: I told you he was the real deal. Listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: He's doing, I was looking at the player.

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Speaker 4: I legitly said, I think he's the best cornerback in

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Speaker 3: And his interceptions, if you go back and study.

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Speaker 4: Him, they are not what I call in the play

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Speaker 4: interceptions mean you may the right decision, you backpedal the right,

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Speaker 4: He studies for these interceptions, like the interception in Kentucky

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Speaker 4: people all the time, it's harder. Go outside. Right now,

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Speaker 4: The father right the feather you cannot throw, and he

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Speaker 4: is that feather. I hit one hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 3: Damn Green got here.

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Speaker 4: He was one hundred and seventy four pounds. My first

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Speaker 3: Story of that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I was one hundred and seventy five pounds and

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Speaker 4: he told me, then, it ain't about your weight, about

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Speaker 4: just go out there and ball out. And that's what

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Speaker 4: he does. That's what he does.

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Speaker 2: So what was your welcome to the NFL moment in

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Speaker 2: you learned real quick the difference between college NFL.

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Speaker 3: Oh you real well?

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Speaker 4: My thing was I held out for like three four

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Speaker 3: That's how irrogant of a rookie I was.

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Speaker 4: And then when I got to training camp in colli Oude, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 4: Marty Seanhaemer was my coach, and Marty was like, you know.

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Speaker 4: I get in my room. They venceed and through all

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Speaker 1: Right now, that's true. That's a of almost like your

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Speaker 4: You like you, you rookie, you starting, Yeah, they gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna kids, So how much of that?

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Speaker 3: It's just like I got to under respect I.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna think about it.

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Speaker 4: I think this is what we realized very quickly coming

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Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, I gotta go

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Speaker 4: I got to go show them that Fred smooth and

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Speaker 4: And I would just remember. I sit down and I

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Speaker 3: Everybody's going after yours? Yes, And he said, you know

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Speaker 4: Like when he told me that, I was like, I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's how I always was.

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Speaker 4: I never missed a game in high school. I never

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Speaker 5: Oh God, I love that. That's why he's a Hall

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Speaker 5: so usually talk to you if you if you sit

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Speaker 4: I came in. I'm talkative. I asked questions. I don't

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Speaker 3: You had to be Oh, Mark carried your sam shake,

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Speaker 4: I walked in there and I walked back out of

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Speaker 4: there and I asked Mary Shane, why did you draft me?

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Speaker 4: He was like, son, go go in that room. We

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Speaker 3: Learn everything you can learn. You you the future.

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Speaker 4: But it was just so it wasn't intimidating, timid, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when did you feel like, all right, now

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Speaker 1: I met it. Maybe it wasn't your rookie season, but

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Speaker 4: I felt in preseason immediately, usually immediately I felt like

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite story from your rookie season.

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Speaker 1: Could be someone else, it could be you where you

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Speaker 3: Back and think, I can't believe that happened my rookie season.

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Speaker 4: Well, probably my first game, okay, my first game of

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Speaker 4: I still like, really pay attention to the game, and

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Speaker 4: Junior say, oh God, bless you NATed. Listen to me.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was three of him out there, like

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Speaker 4: attack of Junior say, I'm like, I said, how many?

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Speaker 3: How many of them?

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Speaker 1: Is? It?

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Speaker 4: Like? Dominated the game? And I went out there and

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Speaker 4: So that was the game that just did it for me.

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Speaker 4: I was stockscruck, but at the same time out there

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Speaker 4: It was from the national anthem to everything, and I

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Speaker 4: never forget playing on that dirt field listen the old y'all,

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Speaker 4: I was like, this cannot be pro football. I had

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Speaker 1: It's the worst of like the vet.

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Speaker 3: It was worse than the vet.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that made the vet worse it had

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing that made the vent work.

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Speaker 4: But really like a real jau like yo. Philly fans

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Speaker 4: look Mike Rookie him at of fact, we had a

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Speaker 2: Weren't there players. I remember hearing about this that you

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget, like at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking in my head, what do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Until I played there and then I understand And these

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Speaker 3: So we know that these people do not care about people.

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Speaker 1: We have some breaking news that you Commanders fans are

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Speaker 3: It is official.

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Speaker 2: Seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the

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Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. That's right, the deal, those final lives, and

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Speaker 2: Seat Geek is the newest member of the Commander's family.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't heard the name yet, get used to it,

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Speaker 2: because you'll be hearing it a lot more this season.

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Speaker 1: Commanders fans, Ken fan, all right, I want to go

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Speaker 1: back to your rookie season and we have some other

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Speaker 1: by Seat Geek. So you actually, I cannot believe this.

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Speaker 1: You actually roomed, yeah, your rookie season with your former

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Speaker 4: Yes, I did, Yes, I did. The funny thing about it,

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's crazy right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, three of us played for the same team, Mississippi State.

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Speaker 3: We went to the same college.

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Speaker 4: Jamal Dinkins which was my tailback, fullback and linebacker in

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Speaker 3: Here and we was roommates from the time gets hold.

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Speaker 4: There and just to go this long voyage together, I

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Speaker 3: And you got realized.

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Speaker 4: So we had like we was packed with talent. You'll

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Speaker 3: Jamal Deacons was two hundred and twenty in ninth grade.

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Speaker 4: I looked at him and said, if this is what

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Speaker 3: This is the way it's gonna go. Doctor, Like they're

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Speaker 4: That I have a pen in my hand. Like he

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Speaker 3: In my life.

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Speaker 1: If you're a doctor, what kind of doctor would you be? Ah,

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Speaker 4: You know what, more of a more of a psychologist, Oh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't. I don't do them well. But

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Speaker 4: is my major psychology. So I learned people and learned

443
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Speaker 4: how to talk trash to them. That was my plan

444
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,840
Speaker 4: when I made it to college. But at the end

445
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,800
Speaker 4: of the day, I like to like get in the

446
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,160
Speaker 4: psyche of people, See what people are thinking, See where

447
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,000
Speaker 4: you were at mentally, see what I can learn from

448
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,560
Speaker 4: you and what you can learn from me. This is

449
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Speaker 4: what I would have been. I would have been more

450
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Speaker 4: of a shrink. I would have been doctor feel good. Yeah,

451
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,399
Speaker 4: doctor feel good, doctor feel good.

452
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Speaker 3: Jenkins.

453
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Speaker 1: Do you think that helped you in the pros seriously,

454
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Speaker 1: because you know how much of the game, of any

455
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Speaker 1: game is mental.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you study psychology or being someone who was

457
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Speaker 2: interested in the mental part of just life.

458
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Speaker 4: That that help you in someone in football? Yeah, help

459
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,679
Speaker 4: me be professor x I listen. It helped me not

460
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,280
Speaker 4: ever get too high on myself. Okay, never ever get

461
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,960
Speaker 4: too low on myself. And you see it now with players.

462
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 4: A lot of players go through what they call you know,

463
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,520
Speaker 4: go through their mental ups and downs, and they need

464
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Speaker 4: these wells. Like I was prepared for this. I was

465
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Speaker 4: prepared for the harshness of the NFL. I was prepared

466
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Speaker 4: for the good part of the NFL. But the one

467
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Speaker 4: thing I can say that just studying psychology did for me,

468
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 4: it helped me learn that it takes a lot of

469
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Speaker 4: energy to be somebody else.

470
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Speaker 3: It takes no energy to be your self.

471
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Speaker 4: Oh I love that alright, sole the lessons right now,

472
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,959
Speaker 4: because I'm a shrink, I should be charging you by

473
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Speaker 4: the house right now.

474
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Speaker 3: But it showed me just don't ever.

475
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Speaker 4: Get too far ahead of yourself living and now Enjoydan.

476
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 4: Now the pass is in stone, but the future is clay.

477
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Speaker 4: It can be molded.

478
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Speaker 2: I love that all right, So let's talk about molding

479
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 2: your future. And if you're a young guy, you're trying

480
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 2: to make it to the NFL, you've been there.

481
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Speaker 1: How much easier or is it easier? When people say, oh,

482
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 1: if you're in the SEC, if you're in the Big ten,

483
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 1: it's easier to make the transition. Then if you're in

484
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Speaker 1: the AAC, is that overstated?

485
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 3: Is that true? No, that's true.

486
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 4: The SEC is the minor league of them.

487
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm sorry, Like, I'm gonna.

488
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 4: Tell you how actually when we come from the SEC,

489
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 4: when we play in stadiums in the NFL, it's a downgrade.

490
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Speaker 3: I stadiums. I've heard that.

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you think of pure attention the truth I've.

492
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Speaker 4: Been say, like, the stadiums are huge, they are upscale.

493
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Speaker 4: You're talking about going to Alabama with ninety five thousand,

494
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 4: You talking about Death Valley with one.

495
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: Hundred thousand people. Tell you're talking Georgia, You're talking Florida. Like,

496
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 3: these are not environments that you just walk in. You

497
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 3: gotta realize LSU.

498
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 4: The reason that we play mostly night games at LSU

499
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 4: because it's too hot during the day. Just why they

500
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 4: usually play the games at night and you go in there,

501
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 4: it's just to smell the stench of nothing but crawfish,

502
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 4: cigars and beer. I'm talking about. It's different. Like then,

503
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Speaker 4: not only do they do this, they put the tiger

504
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Speaker 4: in a cage right next to your locker room.

505
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Speaker 3: So when you walk out the locker room and say, lo.

506
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Speaker 4: They do that on purpose, youre right there trying to

507
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Speaker 4: intimidate you.

508
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, only in the SEC where you get

509
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Speaker 3: this right here? So I think the one thing the

510
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 3: environments are very loud.

511
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Speaker 4: I've played in places like Alabama where it got so

512
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 4: loud I could feel the ground shaken beneath my feet.

513
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: Is that right?

514
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,239
Speaker 4: Every play I can feel the ground like I was, like,

515
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 4: the Richter scale is off the medal right now. So

516
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 4: the environment plus the athletes. Like the athletes, you can

517
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 4: talk about all the guys that made it. I think

518
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 4: when you talk about this SEC, you gotta talk about

519
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 4: the guys that didn't make it.

520
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: It's so many, it's a lot. It's just so many guys.

521
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 4: And in beginning Sunday, somebody can have your number. And

522
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 4: I think we know each other so much because.

523
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Speaker 3: We went to camps.

524
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 4: We've all touched bases, and cross paths at certain points

525
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 4: in our life. So when we do, when I do

526
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 4: meet the dunte Stylesworths of the world, like we've already

527
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 4: been there and we already got these grudge matches against

528
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Speaker 4: each other.

529
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Speaker 2: I've heard this before and I don't know if this

530
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: is true, but you can clarify for me that pro athletes,

531
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: when they get together and talk, they'll talk some pros.

532
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: But if they play the other college, they talk about college.

533
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 3: We love college, Okay. College is pros. Is playing for yourself.

534
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: It's a job. You're an independent country.

535
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeh.

536
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 4: College, you're playing for a campus. You're playing for history.

537
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: You're planning to be a part of history. Everybody. Now

538
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 4: we divide each other about what college you're going to do,

539
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 4: Like college is everything.

540
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: That's your family, that's your future family.

541
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 4: Like now, when I sit out there and I talk

542
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 4: to Montagne sweat and I talk to Manuel for we bulldog.

543
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 4: We an't in college and we call each other bulldog.

544
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: So it's a brotherhood that's forever.

545
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: And we got other.

546
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: People joining that family every year, from the student body

547
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: to new athletes every year. So that's why when we

548
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 4: say we sec that's what we say at games we

549
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 4: are to SEC. We mean that it's us against everybody

550
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: else and welcome, welcome a longhand let's go back where

551
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 4: let's welcome, Welcome back home. That's what I gotta say. Yeah,

552
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: we come back home where y'all belong. Oh man, it's

553
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 4: gonna be great. How do you feel about the future

554
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 4: of Texas in the SEC.

555
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: Here's what I feel like. I feel like that we're

556
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: gonna be all right because we got the money. Yeah,

557
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Speaker 2: but also I am very aware of the fact.

558
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Speaker 3: That the SEC is the SEC.

559
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: Texas has struggled for ten years in the Big twelve,

560
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: so I think this is the year. But everybody's been

561
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 2: saying that for the last decade. We're gonna be all right.

562
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: We're prepared for it. I think in the right way.

563
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: I like suck, but I know what's coming.

564
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: Well, you got you got, you got queen and yours

565
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: the quarterback then yeah, I think he'll be your first

566
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 4: round pick.

567
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Speaker 3: You got arch Man in, you got arch Man. Come on, man,

568
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: you gotta be feeling good. I feel arch Man and the.

569
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Fact that he wanted to go to Texas is huge

570
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: and he didn't take a diamond. People say, oh, sure,

571
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to his family's multi millionaire again and

572
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: again and again.

573
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Speaker 4: The jenaity in their family is ritten right, right, if

574
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: you a man and you are, he's fine.

575
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Speaker 3: But I'm not just saying.

576
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Speaker 4: The one thing I think y'all will not have a

577
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: problem with is recruit y'all just won't have them just

578
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: being in Texas now, I think Oklahoma is gonna be

579
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Speaker 4: for open for a wild hope.

580
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 3: You're right, rude away, You're right. I'm sorry.

581
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard for them to recruit and keep

582
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 4: up recruiting because one thing they don't recruit well now

583
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: is defense.

584
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: Like they've never been a defensive team. That's right. If

585
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: they're a awful and if you don't play defense in

586
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: the SEC, you don't win. So what's gonna happen now?

587
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: Because as we're recording this and what a couple of

588
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: days ago, Washington and Oregon are going to the Big Ten.

589
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: I can't wait until Washington has to go to Rutgers

590
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: or whatever it's gonna be. We're headed, I mean, we're

591
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: steaming towards like the super Conference in.

592
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: College for we are three three, Like exactly now, whatnails?

593
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: Who is the Dead Conference? Is it? The PAC twelve,

594
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: PAC twelve, is it the Big twelve? It's the Pack

595
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: Twelve's done.

596
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say the PAC twelve is done, and

597
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 4: I think it's all about TV deals now, it's all

598
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 4: about TV deals. I think the PAC. This is what

599
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 4: I heard from from the PAC twelve. They got to

600
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 4: offer from Apple to streaming service. Yeah, for like ten dollars.

601
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: It was the worst deal of all time, Like nobody

602
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 4: wants to see.

603
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Now.

604
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: What I can say about the Big ten is now

605
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: the Big ten is finna try to fight with the

606
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: SEC By being by coastal Gonna, They're gonna actually be

607
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: able to start a game at twelve o'clock am noon

608
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: on the East coast and still have a ten o'clock

609
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: game on the West coast.

610
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: So they will play all day long.

611
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: While we are in the Southeastern Conference, we will only

612
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 4: be playing till like eight o'clock, nine o'clock.

613
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: What's gonna be fascinated too, is when they eventually expand

614
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: the playoff.

615
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be Are they gonna give a little

616
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: credit to the ACC or is it gonna be Big

617
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: ten SEC?

618
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Because you know the eight those teams are trying to

619
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: leave too. No, No, they're trying to leave right now.

620
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: The ACC is that comforts that just just dare They

621
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: just dare at the prum. Nobody's dancing at them, but

622
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: they there at the prom like we don't know what

623
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: then CEC I mean, ACC is gonna be And that's

624
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: why my big question for the SEC is who are

625
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 4: you gonna steal? Do you want Florida State and Clemson?

626
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: Do you want North Carolina and Georgia Tech, Because you

627
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: you might want Georgia Tech as a tech school into

628
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: your conference GPAs up different blend the ball. Plus you

629
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 4: want to be able to give Georgia some recruiting competition

630
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: in Georgia because now Georgia is the only SEC school

631
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: in Georgia.

632
00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: If you put Georgia Tech.

633
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Speaker 4: And they're not too like everybody else, so everybody else, Mississtate, Old,

634
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 4: Miss Alabama, Auburn, all of it. Florida Also if they

635
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: put Florida State in, I have Florida and Florida State.

636
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: So we're e side about the NFL. Weorkside about college football.

637
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: When we're not watching those what are you watching?

638
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: I'm watching everything. Listen about Righteous Gymstone is one of

639
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: my favorite.

640
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: I have not seen it.

641
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 4: Listen, it's hilarious, Like I love the last My dad

642
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 4: is a preacher also, so.

643
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: I get the mega church thing.

644
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: You looking at me like, I was like, sometimes you

645
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: look at me and you go jinks.

646
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm a sinner. I am.

647
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: Listen at the end of the day, my daddy is

648
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: a preacher. I'm a preacher's kid. I'm a PK. That's

649
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: what they call us pre ks. I'm good with that.

650
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: I understand. The Good Book.

651
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: Righteous Gymstone is one of my favorites.

652
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 4: I love it. What else I got going on? I

653
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 4: did watch the new Transformer movie.

654
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: I was like, it was all right.

655
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 4: I liked it because you know what, we got nostylegic

656
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: from the old day. We watched the cartoons, so I

657
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 4: got to watch the Beast Wars and stuff like that.

658
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: So to see that brought the light. I thought it

659
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: was good. I ain't think you got a lot of

660
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: love like it should have got. But Guards of the

661
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: Galaxy three is one of my favorite Marvel moves out.

662
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Speaker 3: I'm a big Marvel guy. I love Marvel.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the I feel like this would be

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Speaker 1: up your alley, like the documentary on the American Gladiators.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that was great, listen. I didn't know by watching

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Speaker 4: it high injured they got all.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize too that early on there was no padding.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about bass teams like that, that it was

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Speaker 2: just concrete. Yes, they had those games early, no idea

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Speaker 2: what they were doing.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know what type of games they was prying.

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Speaker 4: That what I'm saying like it was one of those

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Speaker 4: shows based off appearance, because you need to be buffed

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Speaker 4: female I male. You need to look like throw her

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Speaker 4: to be on it. But then it was also testing

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Speaker 4: your athletic priority. Usually the guys that goes gym they're

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Speaker 4: not great athletes. They're great weightlifters, but they're not great athletes.

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Speaker 4: They can't run around with all the new and stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. But I did watch it. I thought it

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Speaker 4: was It brought an insight that we haven't had into it.

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't have guy.

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Speaker 4: I would have taken American gladiators over wrestling. Once I

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Speaker 4: found out wrestling was fake, it broke my heart.

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Speaker 1: I used to think I swear to God because do

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Speaker 1: you remember the van Erks. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: remember the varn I'm a big.

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Speaker 3: Coco b ware.

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Speaker 4: I'm Okay, so you know they're coming out with the

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Speaker 4: Van Eric movie in December called The Iron Claw, and

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Speaker 4: Zach Efron is gonna play Kevin van Erk.

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Speaker 3: Oh he is?

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Speaker 1: He?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Is?

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Speaker 2: He?

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Speaker 3: Can't he get buff enough.

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Speaker 1: To do that.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the picks like he looks pretty big. So

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Speaker 2: I love the Von. I did a story with Kevin

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Speaker 2: Is twenty years ago. I spent two days on his

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Speaker 2: ranch with him. So I love wrestling.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why I mentioned that is their primary

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Speaker 1: rival was Rick flet and I hate.

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Speaker 4: Nobody hates Rick Flen. Listen, I was a British bull dog. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I love the Ultimate Warrior. I love Coco be well, listen,

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Speaker 4: I love them all. Like wrestling just had this nostalgia

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Speaker 4: to it in the nineties, different than like now, I

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00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: cannot I will not watch it now. But yeah, back then,

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Speaker 4: I thought the characters the million Dollar Man like. The

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Speaker 4: characters were just so in depth in what they did

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Speaker 4: and they and they they, they showed the character. They

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Speaker 4: play your card and that's what I love.

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Speaker 2: What got me was and the reason why I could

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Speaker 2: never accept that it wasn't real was the blood because

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize, you know, they put the razor, you know,

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Speaker 2: taping on the inside and then scraped their head like

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Speaker 2: that and they're bleeding.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he's bleeding. How can that be fake? He's bleeding,

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Speaker 1: you know. So if I see Rick Clair bleeding going no,

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Speaker 1: you know, see it on his knees and then he

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Speaker 1: pulled something on you, I was like, that's real.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, listen if Andre the Giant body slam you.

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Speaker 4: This reason now, well we got lost in the Shepherd

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Speaker 4: was the fact that they're protecting each other. Like so

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Speaker 4: then I started to say, nah, look at it more

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Speaker 4: as a sport because they do have to protect each other.

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Speaker 3: And they are athletes, and they are athlete.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not gonna take that away from him, but

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Speaker 4: they also is scripted. Yes, so Hogan having that championship

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Speaker 4: for thirty three years with scripted, that's what it was.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know he would never beat the Giant.

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Speaker 3: You know what Macho Man ran to Savage.

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Speaker 4: I did watch I did watch it, I think on

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Speaker 4: Netflix where they broke it down and who Holgan.

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Speaker 3: Macho Man came to my room and he could never

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Speaker 3: turn it out.

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Speaker 4: So he would like, oh like he couldn't hol what

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Speaker 4: you doing?

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Speaker 3: Like he could not turn off the character. Is that right? Hold?

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Speaker 4: Like he wasan of my best friends, but he just

741
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Speaker 4: could ever turn it out, Like he could not turn

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Speaker 4: off the macho man, ran his savage for it up.

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Speaker 1: When I was in college, the best class I ever took.

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Speaker 3: There was a class called History.

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Speaker 2: Of Pro Wrestling, and our instructor was Terry Todd, who

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Speaker 2: taught Mark Henry or Mark Henry, I do so all

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00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: and this was there were a ton of football players

748
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Speaker 2: in this class, and we would watch. He would say,

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Speaker 2: all right, today's assigmon is we're gonna watch WrestleMania and

750
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have a test at the end of the week.

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Speaker 3: And it was. It was amazing.

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: And so I sit there and watch WrestleMania and the

753
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 2: questions were who body slammed Andre Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that class.

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Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan is the only person to body slam on Dreden.

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Speaker 2: And I think he told a story where after like

757
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 2: he could feel the past.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, come on, you haveing four hundred pounds.

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Speaker 1: Oh he was like six, come on, man, like he

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Speaker 1: wants six.

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Speaker 3: He was huge. Imagine practicing that.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they couldn't have they couldn't like I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: like hook had to be, Like, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull this off, and if I don't, I'm

765
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Speaker 2: just gonna bet at Billy Suplex and my mom.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something to change the game. Right now,

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Speaker 3: you're changing the game.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's great to be with you on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Give me one thing before we wrap things up. They're

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Speaker 2: looking forward to coming up the training camp.

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Speaker 4: Well, all I'm looking for right now is Sam Howe's progress.

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Speaker 3: This all thing about.

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Speaker 4: And I don't care about the defense being in front

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Speaker 4: of the offense at this point in time because we

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Speaker 4: always in front of them at this point in time. Like,

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Speaker 4: I want to see his maturation. I want to see

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Speaker 4: him get better each in there every day. The more

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Speaker 4: and more I study him.

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Speaker 3: The more and more he reminds me of Tony Romo.

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Speaker 3: Tony Romo with.

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Speaker 4: The conta athlete that most people gave him credit for,

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Speaker 4: very elusive in the pocket, can make every throw.

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Speaker 3: Sam Howe has the.

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00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: Same body type, he has the same arm strength, and

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00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: he has the same athletic ability. So if you're telling

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Speaker 4: me he Tony Romo, I think we got a chance

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Speaker 4: to win.

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Speaker 1: He take that every other week cowboys aside talent.

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Speaker 3: Why you take the other listen? I can't.

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Speaker 4: I can't get mad at who used to be married with.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, that's who I

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00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: look at him and I have went head to head

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Speaker 4: with Tony a million times.

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Speaker 3: I got plenty of respect for him.

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Speaker 1: That's Fred Smooth. I'm Michael Jenkins. It is the Get

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