WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Ties That Bind

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. That tis that Bye and audition.

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<v Speaker 1>As the bengals second preseason game ends in a thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>all tie in Atlanta, Cincinnati's first preseason tie in fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two years. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker room

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<v Speaker 1>comments from players and coaches, and Dave Lappham will join

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<v Speaker 1>me for postgame analysis. Then, in this week's fun Facts Conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>rookie Shaka Hayward discusses his family legacy in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You've undoubtedly heard of his cousin, Steeler's Pro Bowl defensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman Cam Hayward. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more. Now, here's a quick reminder that you can

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<v Speaker 1>your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since an unsung hero

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<v Speaker 1>named Jeff Brickner. The Bengals traveling party to Atlanta included

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<v Speaker 1>roughly one hundred and fifty five people. That means a

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<v Speaker 1>huge plane that cannot only carry that many passengers, but

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<v Speaker 1>can also handle roughly ten thousand pounds of football equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>You need four buses in Cincinnati and in Atlanta with

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<v Speaker 1>police escorts to get them where they need to go

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<v Speaker 1>on time. You need hotel rooms that are ready for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody as soon as the team arrives, plus a large

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<v Speaker 1>dining area, plus meeting rooms for the various position groups.

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<v Speaker 1>You need several meals for men with very large appetites,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need security for the players and coaches. In short,

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<v Speaker 1>every road trip is a major undertaking, and the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that handles all of those travel logistics for the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>is Director of Operations, Jeff Brickner. This is my thirteenth

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<v Speaker 1>year as the team's radio announcer, and I can count

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<v Speaker 1>on one hand the number of times that all of

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't go smoothly. So, brick if you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, your hard work and attention to detail is

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<v Speaker 1>truly appreciated. Now let's get to Friday Night's tie in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the pleasure of calling all fifty of Desmond

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<v Speaker 1>Ritters games at the University of Cincinnati. He led the

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<v Speaker 1>Bearcats to wins in forty four of them. Only two

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in FBS history, Kellen Moore and Colt McCoy led

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<v Speaker 1>their teams to more ws. Ritter has taken over as

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta's starting quarterback this year, and in his first action

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<v Speaker 1>of the preseason, des was sharp as he led the

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons on a fifteen played dru to begin the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta actually gained one hundred and six yards, but gave

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight back on penalties, and yet after holding the

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<v Speaker 1>ball for nearly ten minutes, the Falcons didn't even score

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<v Speaker 1>third down in goal from the six. Cincinnati shifting up front,

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<v Speaker 1>Ridder already catches a shotgun snap looking left, throws toward

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone, pick pat it up in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>intercepted by all said, runs back to the fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>gets tackled at the eighteen yard line by quarterback Desmond Ridder.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Hilton tipped it. Mike Hilton made a great play

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<v Speaker 2>on it and tipped it goes airborne and once it's

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<v Speaker 2>tipped interceptions happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals starting defense was on the field for that drive,

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<v Speaker 1>and while it bent, it didn't break. I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Osai after the game, a red zone pick. Defensive ends

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of red zone pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't shout out to have pupped that boor in the air. Still,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't got in a sence to look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me pause that interview for a moment to explain

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. When Osi said shout out to whoever

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<v Speaker 1>popped the ball in the air, his teammates went nuts

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<v Speaker 1>because the person responsible, Mike Hilton, was about two lockers away.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's go back.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to whoever popped that bow in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>I still have.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't got in a chance to look.

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<v Speaker 1>At it, man, I can help. Who is Mike Hilton?

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<v Speaker 3>Dig shout out to Mike Hilton the biggest, big shout out,

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<v Speaker 3>Big shout out to Mike Hilson. Dig dig shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Mike Hilson. I didn't know he popped it up

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<v Speaker 3>in the air, but big shot out to him. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's his great team ball and I'm happy he was

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<v Speaker 3>able to put it in the area. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>able to keep hunting.

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<v Speaker 6>And go get Yeah, you saw a lot of snacks tonight,

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<v Speaker 6>more than your team every season. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 6>like you're coming along this preason and pre season in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of your comfort and where you're at in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of how.

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<v Speaker 2>You're playing, You're still on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Mike Hilton, shout shout out to Big Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's good to get a lot of reps. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Taylor, coach Zach Taylor was just saying, we got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of game speed, and we got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of situations.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to see a lot of different situations. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting reps gives you, puts you in those situations and

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<v Speaker 3>get you prepared for the season, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's great to get all those reps. So I

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<v Speaker 1>remember correctly that you had an interception out burrow in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Mike Hilton.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that that did happen kind of like that again,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a tip in college.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a tip and I was able to go

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<v Speaker 1>get it. So yeah, with at your last interception before tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>go yeah, yeah, pretty rare defensive they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard but you know, we got great coaches, let

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<v Speaker 3>us catch the ball every day, got great hands. And again,

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to Mikeilson. You know he doesn't hear me,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's okay, shout out to him. But yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>was that was the last one before tonight, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>How tiring was the opening drive? That was a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of plays?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, Uh, you know, you you can do all

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<v Speaker 1>you can to get in shape, but nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Really prepares you for a twenty play drive. So, like

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<v Speaker 3>we were just saying, we were talking to each other

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, they don't get in and that was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the mindset of our defense. You know, they

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<v Speaker 3>can get all the yards they want to, but they

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<v Speaker 3>don't let him get get points.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we did. Great teamwork with Mike Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>on that pack.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Mike Elton. Shout out to Mike Hilson.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate him.

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<v Speaker 1>So after out size interception, the Bengals offense finally got

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<v Speaker 1>on the field with Trevor Simmy and getting the started quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He drove the team to the Atlanta twenty three, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather than kicking a field goal, Cincinnati decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>for it. On fourth and two. Simmey and is ready

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<v Speaker 1>sharping snaps it back. Simeon with good protection, throws for

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone incomplete for Trenton Irwin right at the

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<v Speaker 1>goal line, and the Bengals failed to convert. On fourth

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<v Speaker 1>down and two. The Falcons got on the board with

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half minutes left in the second quarter

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<v Speaker 1>on a young Way coup field goal, and with less

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<v Speaker 1>than thirty seconds to go in the half, Atlanta still

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<v Speaker 1>had a three to nothing lead. That's when Falcons coach

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Smith did something he probably wouldn't do in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. On fourth and five at the Bengals forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>he elected not to punt when that almost surely would

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<v Speaker 1>have guaranteed a three point halftime lead. Fourth and five

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<v Speaker 1>at the Cincinnati forty seven, the Bengals have one time

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<v Speaker 1>out left twenty nine seconds remaining in the half, the

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons leading by a field goal three to nothing. Two

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<v Speaker 1>receivers left, two out to the right. Heineck is ready

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<v Speaker 1>low snap, he catches under pressure, throws incomplete. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>will get the ball near midfield with twenty five seconds

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<v Speaker 1>left in the half and one time out to work

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<v Speaker 1>with needing to gain about fifteen yards to give Evan

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<v Speaker 1>McPherson a shot, and McPherson got that shot after Simeon

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<v Speaker 1>completed back to back passes to rookies Charlie Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Josi vash. Evan McPherson will attempt a fifty yard

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<v Speaker 1>field goal. He was four for four last week with

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<v Speaker 1>a long of fifty one, five for five from fifty

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<v Speaker 1>plus during the regular season last year. Robbins is the holder.

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<v Speaker 1>He places the ball down, the kick has plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>distance and it is good money. Mack ties the game

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<v Speaker 1>at three as the first half comes to an end.

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<v Speaker 1>Simeon was seven for fourteen in the half with a

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<v Speaker 1>passer rating of sixty two point two. Jake Browning took

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<v Speaker 1>over in the second half and promptly drove the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the Atlanta thirteen before settling for

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<v Speaker 1>a field goal that gave Cincinnati a six to three lead.

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<v Speaker 1>That lead lasted for less than four minutes. On first

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<v Speaker 1>and goal inside the one, the Falcons line up in

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<v Speaker 1>a pistol. Heinek catches a low snap, hands it off

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<v Speaker 1>to Washington, and he goes over the right side of

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line for the Atlanta touchdown. The Falcons took

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<v Speaker 1>a ten to six lead to the fourth quarter, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only touchdown Atlanta scored. The Bengals defense

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<v Speaker 1>had four sacks, nine quarterback hits, and four pass breakups.

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<v Speaker 1>But after failing to score an offensive touchdown last week

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<v Speaker 1>against Green Bay, it looked like that might be the

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<v Speaker 1>case again. Third and nine, nine defenders right up on

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<v Speaker 1>the line for Atlanta Browning back to throw. The pocket

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<v Speaker 1>closes gets away from a sack. Browning stays behind the

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<v Speaker 1>line side on the throw, intercepted at the forty two

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<v Speaker 1>yard line. The pick happened with five and a half

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left in the game. Fortunately for Browning in the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense not only got a three and out, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the Falcons, forcing Atlanta to punt with roughly three

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to go. On their twenty second possession of the preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals finally put together a touchdown drive clock running

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<v Speaker 1>with two to oh seven left in regulation. Browning catches

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<v Speaker 1>the shotgun snap, steps up in the pocket. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>will take off and run. He's at the fifty middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the field, forty down to the thirty seven, where

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<v Speaker 1>he goes into a feed first slide, a nice scramble

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<v Speaker 1>by Jake Browning. He ran for nineteen yards on that

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<v Speaker 1>play and fourteen yards on the next play. An eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>yard pass to Yosi vash moved the ball to the

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<v Speaker 1>five yard line, and back to back runs by Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Brown gave the Bengals the lead. Snap two, Browning hands

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<v Speaker 1>it off to Chase Brown running right up the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a touchdown go. The Bengals score their first touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>of the preseason. With fifty seconds left in regulation. They've

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<v Speaker 1>taken a two point lead, with Evan mcpheerson coming out

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<v Speaker 1>for the extra point.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you Chase Brown he got He definitely

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<v Speaker 2>crossed the goal line with the football, his shoulder, pads,

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<v Speaker 2>his whole upper body cross that goal line. And this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's got some thump now, he's got a low center

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<v Speaker 2>of gravity. He gets under people's pads. That was a very,

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<v Speaker 2>very explosive run up the gut.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown finished with eighteen yards on nine carries and lap.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to him after the game.

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<v Speaker 2>From preseason game number one to preseason game number two,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the difference mentally and physically?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, mentally, it was a huge jump specifically in protections.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my goal this week to be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and all my checks on my routes, just making sure

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<v Speaker 4>that we're keeping the quarterback clean. And that was something

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<v Speaker 4>that I did today and you know that was That's

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<v Speaker 4>what I was most happy about. Is just keep the

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback up, you know, turn the chains over and just

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<v Speaker 4>keep the offense on the field. Just give us more

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<v Speaker 4>opportunities to put points on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing that is going to be a big factor

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<v Speaker 2>for you of special teams. How'd that go today?

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<v Speaker 4>No doubt.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely room for growth.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, had a kick off, a couple opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>to return the ball, but only had that that squid

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<v Speaker 4>at the end that I got to bring out. So

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<v Speaker 4>definitely grow room to grow in that area. And uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I love teams. It's uh, you know a

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<v Speaker 4>big part of the game, and you know, to to

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<v Speaker 4>be a force in that phase, it's something I want

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<v Speaker 4>to do this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've shown your ability to catch the football

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<v Speaker 2>obviously great running back. There's you made people miss. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the thing that jumped out to me right away

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I saw you on the field was

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<v Speaker 2>your change of direction. I mean, your change of direction

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<v Speaker 2>is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that something I work on a lot during

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<v Speaker 4>the offseason, something that I got to use to my

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<v Speaker 4>advantage in college, and I'm just trying to do that

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<v Speaker 4>at the the NFL level.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think, uh, in terms of as

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<v Speaker 2>you look forward to preseason game number three, any early

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<v Speaker 2>goals in mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just getting more comfortable. You know, this is my

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be going to my third game with this team

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<v Speaker 4>and honestly just being better than I was last week

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, hence this game. So just go out

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<v Speaker 4>there next week at the w.

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<v Speaker 7>And and just compete.

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<v Speaker 4>Just put put good, good tape out there, because that's

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<v Speaker 4>a resume for everybody out here, and you know, be

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<v Speaker 4>the last time we get to really play together before

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<v Speaker 4>the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a quality guy. This is this football team has

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<v Speaker 2>got a unique chemistry to it. Did you sense that

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<v Speaker 2>right away?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it seems like stepped in the locker room, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when I got to meet everybody, and then even spending

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<v Speaker 4>time with the guys outside of the building, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you just realize that everybody's so close. The relationships not

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<v Speaker 4>only on offense but on defense. You know, they're They're

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<v Speaker 4>connected everywhere. You know, everybody's close, everybody spends time with

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<v Speaker 4>each other. So I think that's a big part in

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<v Speaker 4>team success on the field and just chemistry overall rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown run gave Cincinnati a thirteen to ten lead with

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seconds to go, but with former Bengals draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>Logan woodside and at quarterback, the Falcons were able to

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<v Speaker 1>gain fifty three yards on three passes and play for

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<v Speaker 1>the tie. Since there's no overtime in the preseason. Six

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<v Speaker 1>seconds left in regulation, the Bengals up by three pinion.

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<v Speaker 1>The punter is the holder to snap the placement. The

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<v Speaker 1>kick is on its way, and it is good good.

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<v Speaker 1>The final score thirteen to thirteen. It was the third

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<v Speaker 1>preseason tie in Bengals history, and their first since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one. Here are Joseph Osai and Charlie Jones.

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<v Speaker 5>How does it type feel?

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels kind of weird, but you know, it is

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. Like Costillis was saying, we took a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of positives from this game, and.

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<v Speaker 1>These words are just going to take that and roll

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess it's better than a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that about the feeling.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess so obviously would like to get to win,

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<v Speaker 8>but you know, ty, I guess it's better than the lost,

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<v Speaker 8>and next week we're looking for that win for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Browning went sixteen for twenty two that's seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>percent for one hundred and forty yards, with no touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>one pick, and a passer rating of seventy point three.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also the Bengals leading rusher with four carries

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty yards. Here's what he had to say after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Jake, it through full one for you ran

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty. How'd you feel about your performance?

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<v Speaker 5>Felt good?

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<v Speaker 9>I felt like we were able to move the ball

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<v Speaker 9>up and down, kind of stalled out a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>in the red zone. The one really, the one pick

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<v Speaker 9>is the throw out one back, but we're able to

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<v Speaker 9>bounce back and have a good two minute drive at

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<v Speaker 9>the end and extend some plays, and yeah, I feel pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The touchdown drive came immediately after the interception. How important,

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<v Speaker 1>Wizard for you to bounce back after that and play

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<v Speaker 1>some of your best football. I mean it was important

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<v Speaker 1>because we were losing two.

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<v Speaker 9>But yeah, I think it's good to show like Obviously

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<v Speaker 9>the pick was about decision.

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<v Speaker 1>He just got too aggressive.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think it's good to put on tape that

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<v Speaker 9>I'll bounce back and you know, have a short memory

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<v Speaker 9>on it. It's always good for quarterbacks. So I would

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<v Speaker 9>say more importantly, we were losing, so under the score.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Jake Browning back to back runs on

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<v Speaker 1>that final drive nineteen yards and fourteen yards. You showed

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<v Speaker 1>that your legs can be an important part of your game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean they're just playing a lot of man and

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<v Speaker 9>so when you break the pocket, there's no one really there,

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<v Speaker 9>and so yeah, some of the reids, I mean I

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<v Speaker 9>thought it was good protection and all. That was just

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<v Speaker 9>some of the reids weren't there, maybe have a plan

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<v Speaker 9>to do a bad look and just try to extend

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<v Speaker 9>the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Hadn't scored a touchdown yet in the preseason until that

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<v Speaker 1>final drive. Was it a relief to punch one in

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, kind of like earlier. I mean, we were losing,

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<v Speaker 9>so it was more so it's nice to take the

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<v Speaker 9>lead at the end. But yeah, I'm always trying to

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<v Speaker 9>score touchdown, So that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I took the lead with fifty seconds to go, game

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<v Speaker 1>winds up in a tie. What's the emotion after a time?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know if you told me, I've never died before,

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<v Speaker 9>so yeah, I mean, I think with preseason, you're you know,

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<v Speaker 9>obviously trying to put out good tape in the situation

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<v Speaker 9>I'm in and play well, so I feel like I

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<v Speaker 9>played well. It's nice to get a lot of tape

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<v Speaker 9>and be able to kind of see yourself in game

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<v Speaker 9>situations so you can keep getting better and keep having

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<v Speaker 9>things to work on and have some strengths or have

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<v Speaker 9>some plays that went well that you can build onto.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to make your case to be Joe's backup.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you think tonight helped? I don't know, just trying

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<v Speaker 9>to play well. That's someone else's decision and not in

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<v Speaker 9>my hand. So trying to play well, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm getting a lot of tape in practice and in

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<v Speaker 9>the game and trying to make the most out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Where building all the good.

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<v Speaker 9>Stuff and correcting some of the stuff I can get

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<v Speaker 9>better at telling a solid performance.

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<v Speaker 1>to play in it was Jonah Williams, who got his

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<v Speaker 1>first eleven NFL snaps at right tackle on the opening drive.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't expect the other offensive starters to play much,

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<v Speaker 1>if at all, next week at Washington, as Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>continues to prioritize getting them to the open or healthy

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<v Speaker 1>over getting them a taste of live action in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach spent a few minutes with Lap after the tie.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I wish we would pull it out there at

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<v Speaker 10>the end. It was good to see, you know, defenses

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<v Speaker 10>on the field quite a bit, especially in the first half,

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<v Speaker 10>held them the three points. Offense was able to finally

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<v Speaker 10>put together drive there at the end of the game

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<v Speaker 10>to get in the end zone. And then, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>we had some tough personnel issues to you know, we

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<v Speaker 10>had to play basically a mult school four to three

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<v Speaker 10>with three linebackers in the field and a little challenging

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<v Speaker 10>with some of the coverages. Those guys had to play

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<v Speaker 10>that they don't really major in, so just needed someone

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<v Speaker 10>to step up and make a play. Unfortunately, they got

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<v Speaker 10>that field goal off.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that last drive was was ah almost Murphy's

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<v Speaker 2>live then could go wrong? Did go wrong? Personnel a lot?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you're just out of dbs at that point, so

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<v Speaker 10>you know you're putting linebackers in there, trying to make

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<v Speaker 10>it work, trying to furthermore, no huddle to a minute,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, trying to get the calls into them. So again,

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<v Speaker 10>that's just good experience for those guys and we'll have

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<v Speaker 10>a chance to coach them off in the film Rum Nomore.

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<v Speaker 2>So your two quarterbacks looked like they stepped up their

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<v Speaker 2>performance from last week to this week.

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<v Speaker 10>Would you agree there was good things, you know, situationally

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<v Speaker 10>at the end of both haves to lead us down

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<v Speaker 10>and have to manage and in no huddle situations, they

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<v Speaker 10>had to make some checks, they had to do a

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<v Speaker 10>good job redirecting the protections. I thought they both showed

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<v Speaker 10>some really good things to night.

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<v Speaker 2>What about special teams? What did you think when you

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<v Speaker 2>took a look at what was going on out there

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<v Speaker 2>from a special team standpoint?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, we didn't get a lot of We

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<v Speaker 10>got three punts, I think one punt return, So I

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<v Speaker 10>thought there were some positives that showed up in terms

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<v Speaker 10>of covering kicks, I thought that went well. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>we had the one penalty on one of our returns

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<v Speaker 10>that that's maybe a little questionable. You know, it was tight,

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<v Speaker 10>But overall I thought that they performed.

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<v Speaker 2>There were some close plays you challenge none of none

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<v Speaker 2>of those went you went your way, unfortunately. But really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some of your young guys. I thought Brown

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<v Speaker 2>showed some things. You'll see Vass showed some things. Guys

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<v Speaker 2>that you thought might show some things in preseason game

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<v Speaker 2>number two stepped up and did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I thought there was positives from a lot of the

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<v Speaker 10>guys on this team, more so than last week. I

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<v Speaker 10>thought we played better complimentary football, just unfortunately, we weren't

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<v Speaker 10>able to get the ball in the end zone enough

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<v Speaker 10>to score off and win a game.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the offensive line, the young group upfront, that

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<v Speaker 2>they performed better for you this week than last I.

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<v Speaker 10>Think, you know, in past pro I thought those guys

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<v Speaker 10>had time, and certainly it's the quarterbacks job to move,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, when when they're playing so much main coverage

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<v Speaker 10>and matching some of our concepts, he needs a little

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<v Speaker 10>bit more time. And so I thought they did a

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<v Speaker 10>good job fitting off those guys up front.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you look ahead to preseason game number three,

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<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts. You're basically got another week of

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<v Speaker 2>training camp for a preseason game that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>followed up by a week of work. What are your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts as you lay out in your mind which going

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<v Speaker 2>to do next week?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it's a big work week for us. We get

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<v Speaker 10>four practices, four pad of practices, so we'll get a

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<v Speaker 10>chance to evaluate how we want to play the game.

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<v Speaker 10>And we've already made some decisions how we want to practice,

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<v Speaker 10>so it'll be a great opportunity for those guys to

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<v Speaker 10>get after it a couple times and then we'll make

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<v Speaker 10>some decisions on how we're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Play the game. The real good thing, I think both teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see anybody, you know, in major trouble. From

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<v Speaker 2>an injury standpoint, it looked like both teams get out

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<v Speaker 2>of this fairly healthy. Knock on wood wherever it may be,

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 10>So maybe there might be a couple of guys that

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<v Speaker 10>are day to day, but other than that, I think

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<v Speaker 10>we're pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate your time as always, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>The next week's game at Washington will start at six pm.

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<v Speaker 5>Tie is like kissing your sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's better.

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<v Speaker 5>Than a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>It is better than a loss. But you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>being able to stop them with less than a minute

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<v Speaker 2>ago is disappointing. Obviously, a lot of guys ended on

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<v Speaker 2>a down note as a result of that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach was telling me in the postgame show I did

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<v Speaker 2>with him that, you know, the personnel that was left

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<v Speaker 2>for them to work with, they had to have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of linebackers out there, enough defensive backs. Some guys

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<v Speaker 2>get nicked up and they were a little bit hamstrung

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and as to what they could do from a coverage standpoint,

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and it had taken advantage of a big time you know,

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously you're hopeful somebody steps up and makes the play.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was not meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals went nearly eight preseason quarters without scoring an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive touchdown, but they got one with fifty seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 1>How big of a relief do you think that is

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<v Speaker 1>for the offense and coordinated Brian Gallaghan?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a load off their minds and

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<v Speaker 2>their shoulders. Eight plays, eighty yards, two minutes, twenty five seconds.

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Hadn't scored a touchdown in a one hundred and nineteen

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>minutes and ten seconds and got it done. Six of

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>eight plays in that drive went for first down. So

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Browning was four for forty two yards, two rushes for

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 2>thirty three more. I mean he was seventy five of

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the of the eighty yards he accounted for. So it

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 2>was a big night for brown to get his first

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 2>NFL touchdown. He was very excited about that. He said,

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 2>it's almost a surreal feeling. And I kind of know

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 2>what he means. I mean, just playing in your first

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 2>NFL game this was the second one. But doing something

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<v Speaker 2>in the early stage of your career, even if it's preseason,

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.640
<v Speaker 2>it's a rush. There's no doubt. It's an adrenaline rush.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to quarterback Jake Browning. He threw for

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<v Speaker 1>one forty, he ran for fifty between training camp in

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<v Speaker 1>two preseason games as of right now. Do you think

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>he is the leader? I would done think it'd be

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.639
<v Speaker 1>able to buy a wide margin. But if so, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he's the leader in the battle to be

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow's back up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's it's it's coming down the home stretch,

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I think that you know, when you

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 2>look at it. Trevor Simeon had some had some issues

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>finishing up in the in the second half of the

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 2>football game. Browning was finishing up in the second half

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<v Speaker 2>of the football game with different personnel and you get

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 2>earlier in the football game and he was able to,

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, make some play. So it's good to have options.

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 2>It's good to that it's competitive. It's good that they

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<v Speaker 2>have to make a decision, just like a lot of

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>roster decisions that you have to make. It's not it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a landslide, it's a it's a it's a battle,

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 2>and it could come down to that very last preseason game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who who ends up, you know, making more plays.

0:24:55.720 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 2>But I do think that they've evaluated every single you know,

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 2>seven on seven, eleven on eleven, all through OTA's mini camp,

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 2>training camp. I mean, they've got a water paper from

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<v Speaker 2>an evaluation standpoint, the water tape, you know, from an

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 2>evaluation standpoint. So it doesn't come down to just a

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<v Speaker 2>drive or a series or a game.

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<v Speaker 1>And I should make it clear. I didn't think Simeon

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<v Speaker 1>was bad at all. He had had great drive at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the half to get the Bengals on

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<v Speaker 1>the board, had a good drive on the opening possession.

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>They went for it on fourth and too where they

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<v Speaker 1>would have kicked the field goal, So he was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought Brownie was better, and the difference is

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>probably his legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought that that he did a really good

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<v Speaker 2>job of taking full advantage of, you know, real estate

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that he could take advantage of. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 2>lamenting the interception and he basically said what my reaction

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 2>was when it took place, you know, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of press them a little bit, trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>too much too soon. I mean, was there was still

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of time in the game. You didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>try to force a play like that at that stage.

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 2>And you know he was lamenting that very thing, but

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>instead of crying in his beer, he just, you know,

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 2>how do you handle adversity? That's a big key, you know,

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, is a guy gonna crumble or is a

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 2>guy gonna jump up and say, I can you know,

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 2>put that aside. I can departmentalize I'm gonna move on

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and make plays. And he did it. Credit him.

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Defensively, Mike Hilton and Joseph Osai combined for the big play,

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the interception on the Falcons opening drive. If you had

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to pick out, I'd kind of under the radar defensive guy.

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Raymond Johnson showed up in a big way. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals practice squad last year, but he made

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>several impressive plays.

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 2>He did, and it was probably against competition. He felt

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 2>like he should step up and make those plays. But

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>he made them, you know, and maybe next week he'll

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<v Speaker 2>get in the rotation a little bit sooner and play

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<v Speaker 2>against you know, maybe a cut above caliber player. That's

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 2>the thing that from a coaching standpoint, it's like, you know,

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you're evaluating the plays and you're evaluating normally what your

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.959
<v Speaker 2>guy is doing, but who is he doing it against?

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, and and and that's that's a that's a

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>tough curve sometimes, you know, to try to try to

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 2>grade it fairly, But in my mind, the bottom line is,

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, either you make plays you don't, and he

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>made he made some splash plays. I mean, he flashed

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>in this football game.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>I only remember one sack. Did you feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line was at least better than Week one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it was. I thought that, you know

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 2>that they played with a lower pad level, a wider base,

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>all the things that you want to play with. You know,

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 2>when when it gets going full speed like that, sometimes

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>you're you know, you're in a survival mode and all

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 2>your technique and everything you've worked on so long just

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of goes out the window and you're just scuffling. Man.

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>You just you're just fighting to survive. And I think

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>they were. I thought they were more disciplined in the

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>way they played. I thought they were penalized less. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought their technique and in the way they approached

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<v Speaker 2>it was much better.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense played a series. Jona Williams played a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it for the starters. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see them in the final preseason game

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>next week of Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't sound like it really doesn't. And honestly, to

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<v Speaker 2>get through this game as healthy as they did when

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>they did play everybody and let's face it, the you

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 2>know the number ones were out there for fifteen snaps

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>on defense. Yeah, on defense, I mean it was you

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>know they were they were out there for literally two

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>series or three series in a normal football game. And

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>because of the player Mike Hilton and assignmid they didn't

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>give up any points, you know, so it was the

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 2>best of both worlds. I get tested cardiovascly, physically, you know,

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 2>really got in the flow of how do you perform

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>when you are fatigue mode at the end of a

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>long drive. And there are a lot of good things

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>that you can take from that game, from that drive.

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 2>So if you're going to only play one series in

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<v Speaker 2>a preseason, that's not a bad one to have been

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<v Speaker 2>a part of because a lot of things took place

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>during the course of that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure your grandkids know that Buddy's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>home very late after a preseason road game in Atlanta,

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and Buddy needs to sleep in on Saturday morning.

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>He needs to sleep in. I know, I know there

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<v Speaker 2>were some early games tomorrow morning, But guys, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I'm going to make it. I don't know.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I might sleep through that alarm clock. I don't think

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to hear that alarm clock. It's it's it's.

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>The games are in jeopardy, is all I can say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully Lap is well rested and his grandkids understand. The

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<v Speaker 1>Now time for this week's edition of fun Facts, where

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<v Speaker 1>you get to know the person under the pads. Time

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<v Speaker 1>for some fun facts. A rookie linebacker Shaka Hayward. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with your last name, Hayward. Yep, you are the

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>cousin of Cameron Hayward, the six time Pro bowler with

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers. His brother Connor also plays for the Steelers. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>how has the Hayward name impacted your path to the NFL?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I'd come from a strong family, So that's

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 8>just that name, just it just brings all the things

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<v Speaker 8>you know a man should be in our family. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>being the the leader of the family is just just

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<v Speaker 8>being a hard, hard nos guy, blue collar, working hard,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from Tequila, Georgia, about thirty miles away from Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you describe your hometown.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a small hometown, but it's grown, you know, that's

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 8>north side of Atlanta, Metro. Atlanta's really growing now. It's

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 8>always been a good area. A lot of guys come

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 8>out of their highly recruited football players come out of there.

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<v Speaker 7>They got good football down there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with rookie linebacker Shaka Hayward. Were you completely

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<v Speaker 1>focused on sports as a kid or did you have

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<v Speaker 1>any other interests?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, pretty much these focused on sports. I would do football, baseball,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 8>I got into basketball a few years, and then once

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 8>I got a high school, pretty much stuck with football.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came time for college, you chose Duke all

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>right for the athletics or the academics.

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<v Speaker 7>You know both.

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 8>You know, I wouldn't go to the school like that

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 8>just to you know, play Foodvises wanted to take advantage

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 8>of both sides of the of the coin there, so

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<v Speaker 8>you know, they got great academics and football.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 1>You're majors listed as evolutionary anthropology. How would you describe

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that field of study.

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<v Speaker 8>I liked it, you know, I just like learning about

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 8>the history of you know, humans and you know, other

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 8>animals over time and how we just developed as a species.

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<v Speaker 5>How hard was Duke?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I had great academic advisors, academic advisors which made

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<v Speaker 8>it easy for me to you know, be able to

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<v Speaker 8>stay ahead of my classes and stuff like that.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 7>So not too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You were a four year starter at Duke and a

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>two time winner of the Vincent Ray Award, which goes

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to the team's top linebacker. Vincent Ray, of course, is

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Vinnie Ray, former Bengal team Chaplain. Have you two guys

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 1>hit it off since you got here?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh? Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 8>I was talking to him throughout the you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>draft process, and he just told me to, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>keep working, watch a lot of film. Yeah, but we've

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<v Speaker 8>been He's been a great mentor for me on and

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<v Speaker 8>off the field, just about life in general. So yeah,

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 8>he's been great ever since I met him and through Duke,

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<v Speaker 8>So he's been great.

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<v Speaker 1>You were invited to the NFL Combine ran a four

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>five three forty, which was in the top ten among linebackers.

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<v Speaker 1>You played in the East West Shrine Game. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about the lead up to the draft

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and your preparation for trying to earn a spot with

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>an NFL team.

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<v Speaker 7>It was good, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>I tried to do everything I could, you know, maximize

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<v Speaker 8>my potential in the draft by like you said, having

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<v Speaker 8>a good top ten forty, you know, not testing well

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<v Speaker 8>and stuff like that.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 7>But when it comes down.

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<v Speaker 8>To football, also trying to sharpen my skills because I

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<v Speaker 8>know the combine is just testing numbers, but when you

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<v Speaker 8>get to the league, it's more about, you know, how

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 8>efficient you are as a mover. You know, it's not

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 8>really how fast you run the forty. You got to

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 8>be able to read offenses, you know, react to different things.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 8>So it's just tying it all together.

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<v Speaker 5>Was it disappointing not to be drafted.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I was disappointed, but they gave me a little

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<v Speaker 8>a chip on my shoulder definitely, you know, heading into

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<v Speaker 8>the heading into UTA's with the Bengals to just prove myself,

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 8>to prove that I'm somebody that you know, they need

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 8>on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Had you talked to the Bengals in the pre draft

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<v Speaker 1>process and why did you wind up signing with Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I.

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<v Speaker 8>Talked with coach Betch and coach Kovacs. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 8>I definitely had a zoom meeting with a coach Becher

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<v Speaker 8>and we just talked football and he asked me a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of good questions just about the stuff that we

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<v Speaker 8>were in just knowing like the whole defense, knowing what

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<v Speaker 8>the the moves were, what the possibilities were from the offensive, uh,

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<v Speaker 8>from offense standpoints like the routes or the run game,

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<v Speaker 8>stuff like that. We talked about a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 8>things that he wanted to do to work with me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, once I got here, and if I got here,

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<v Speaker 8>like on with the Bengals, felt like they had a

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<v Speaker 8>good culture, you know, talking to the UH coach, I

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<v Speaker 8>felt like they had a good winning culture.

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<v Speaker 7>And when I got here, everyone.

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<v Speaker 8>Was really you know, obviously professional, but they're obviously trying

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<v Speaker 8>to be like the best that they could and to

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<v Speaker 8>just push each other and that just that's like the

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<v Speaker 8>kind of environment I wanted to be around. So that's

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<v Speaker 8>why I chose one to the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Some wild card topics now for rookie linebacker Shaka Hayward

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<v Speaker 1>who's your all time favorite athlete in any sport and why.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't have to go Mike Tyson.

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<v Speaker 8>Just how relentless he was, how fearless he was, and uh,

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<v Speaker 8>you know in the ring, and he just always talking

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<v Speaker 8>about being in that mode, not even being able to

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<v Speaker 8>turn it off even when he goes home, which is

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<v Speaker 8>you know, not necessarily a great thing, but actually shows

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<v Speaker 8>you know, like how locked in he was and how

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<v Speaker 8>like determined he was to be just like the best.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you like to spend your money on?

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<v Speaker 7>Mm I really don't like to spend the money at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that's a good trade for a rookie.

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<v Speaker 8>If anything else, you know, take my parents to a

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<v Speaker 8>nice place, you know, spend time with family uther than football.

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<v Speaker 5>What was your favorite part of being a Duke student.

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<v Speaker 8>Just connecting with the other uh students or student athletes,

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<v Speaker 8>like on campus. You know, they're all like the best

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<v Speaker 8>at what they do, whether that's you know, being an engineer, mathematicians, lacrosse, soccer.

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<v Speaker 8>They're all just like the at the top of their line.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was great being around them.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an impressive student body. Final question for Shaka Heyward.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's kind of deep. If you could meet anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in history living or deceased, could be an athlete, entertainer, statesman,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it might be. Who would that person be? Shaka Zulu.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a leader of the uh Zulu nation in

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa. And you know, I I think it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>cool because I'm named after him, so I think it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be cool to obviously meet him. And you know, see

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<v Speaker 1>who just pick his brand about just being a fearless

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<v Speaker 1>leader that he was back.

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<v Speaker 7>In the day.

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<v Speaker 5>So Shakazula, Yep, that's right, yep, Shaka.

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<v Speaker 1>Heyward, best of luck the rest of the preseason, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the time.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, thank you, I appreciate it.

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