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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. That tis that Bye and audition.

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Speaker 1: As the bengals second preseason game ends in a thirteen

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Speaker 1: all tie in Atlanta, Cincinnati's first preseason tie in fifty

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Speaker 1: two years. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker room

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Speaker 1: comments from players and coaches, and Dave Lappham will join

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Speaker 1: me for postgame analysis. Then, in this week's fun Facts Conversation,

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Speaker 1: rookie Shaka Hayward discusses his family legacy in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You've undoubtedly heard of his cousin, Steeler's Pro Bowl defensive

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since an unsung hero

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Speaker 1: named Jeff Brickner. The Bengals traveling party to Atlanta included

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Speaker 1: roughly one hundred and fifty five people. That means a

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Speaker 1: huge plane that cannot only carry that many passengers, but

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Speaker 1: can also handle roughly ten thousand pounds of football equipment.

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Speaker 1: You need four buses in Cincinnati and in Atlanta with

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Speaker 1: police escorts to get them where they need to go

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Speaker 1: on time. You need hotel rooms that are ready for

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Speaker 1: everybody as soon as the team arrives, plus a large

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Speaker 1: dining area, plus meeting rooms for the various position groups.

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Speaker 1: You need several meals for men with very large appetites,

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Speaker 1: and you need security for the players and coaches. In short,

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Speaker 1: every road trip is a major undertaking, and the guy

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Speaker 1: that handles all of those travel logistics for the Bengals

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Speaker 1: is Director of Operations, Jeff Brickner. This is my thirteenth

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Speaker 1: year as the team's radio announcer, and I can count

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Speaker 1: on one hand the number of times that all of

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Speaker 1: that didn't go smoothly. So, brick if you listen to

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Speaker 1: this podcast, your hard work and attention to detail is

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Speaker 1: truly appreciated. Now let's get to Friday Night's tie in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I have the pleasure of calling all fifty of Desmond

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Speaker 1: Ritters games at the University of Cincinnati. He led the

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Speaker 1: Bearcats to wins in forty four of them. Only two

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in FBS history, Kellen Moore and Colt McCoy led

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Speaker 1: their teams to more ws. Ritter has taken over as

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Speaker 1: Atlanta's starting quarterback this year, and in his first action

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Speaker 1: of the preseason, des was sharp as he led the

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Speaker 1: Falcons on a fifteen played dru to begin the game.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta actually gained one hundred and six yards, but gave

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Speaker 1: twenty eight back on penalties, and yet after holding the

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Speaker 1: third down in goal from the six. Cincinnati shifting up front,

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Speaker 1: Ridder already catches a shotgun snap looking left, throws toward

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Speaker 1: intercepted by all said, runs back to the fifteen and

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Speaker 1: gets tackled at the eighteen yard line by quarterback Desmond Ridder.

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Speaker 2: Mike Hilton tipped it. Mike Hilton made a great play

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Speaker 2: on it and tipped it goes airborne and once it's

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Speaker 2: tipped interceptions happened.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals starting defense was on the field for that drive,

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Speaker 1: and while it bent, it didn't break. I talked to

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Speaker 1: Osai after the game, a red zone pick. Defensive ends

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Speaker 3: Don't shout out to have pupped that boor in the air. Still,

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Speaker 3: I haven't got in a sence to look at it.

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Speaker 1: what's going on. When Osi said shout out to whoever

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Speaker 1: because the person responsible, Mike Hilton, was about two lockers away.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to whoever popped that bow in the air.

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Speaker 5: I haven't got in a chance to look.

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Speaker 1: At it, man, I can help. Who is Mike Hilton?

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Speaker 3: Dig shout out to Mike Hilton the biggest, big shout out,

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Speaker 3: Big shout out to Mike Hilson. Dig dig shout out

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Speaker 3: to Mike Hilson. I didn't know he popped it up

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Speaker 6: more than your team every season. How do you feel

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Speaker 2: You're playing, You're still on it.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Mike Hilton, shout shout out to Big Mike.

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Speaker 1: You got to see a lot of different situations. So

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Speaker 3: Getting reps gives you, puts you in those situations and

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Speaker 1: So it's great to get all those reps. So I

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that that did happen kind of like that again,

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Speaker 3: It's hard but you know, we got great coaches, let

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Speaker 3: us catch the ball every day, got great hands. And again,

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Speaker 1: How tiring was the opening drive? That was a ton

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Speaker 1: So that's what we did. Great teamwork with Mike Hilton

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Speaker 1: So after out size interception, the Bengals offense finally got

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith did something he probably wouldn't do in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. On fourth and five at the Bengals forty seven,

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Speaker 1: that was the only touchdown Atlanta scored. The Bengals defense

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Speaker 1: It's a touchdown go. The Bengals score their first touchdown

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Chase Brown he got He definitely

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Speaker 1: Talk to him after the game.

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Speaker 2: From preseason game number one to preseason game number two,

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Speaker 2: what's the difference mentally and physically?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mentally, it was a huge jump specifically in protections.

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Speaker 4: That was my goal this week to be you know,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird.

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Speaker 3: It feels kind of weird, but you know, it is

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Speaker 1: These words are just going to take that and roll

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Speaker 1: Jake Browning went sixteen for twenty two that's seventy two

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Jake Browning back to back runs on

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Speaker 1: I took the lead with fifty seconds to go, game

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Speaker 9: Do you think tonight helped? I don't know, just trying

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Speaker 1: Where building all the good.

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Speaker 9: Stuff and correcting some of the stuff I can get

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Speaker 1: to play in it was Jonah Williams, who got his

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Speaker 1: Zach spent a few minutes with Lap after the tie.

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Speaker 2: So that that last drive was was ah almost Murphy's

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Speaker 10: So maybe there might be a couple of guys that

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Speaker 10: are day to day, but other than that, I think

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Speaker 10: we're pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time as always, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: The next week's game at Washington will start at six pm.

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Speaker 1: It was originally a day game, but got pushed back

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Speaker 1: because Notre Dame faces Navy in Ireland that afternoon and

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Speaker 1: the two games air on the same TV station in Washington.

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Speaker 1: Now time for the radio guy's recap.

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Speaker 5: Tie is like kissing your sister.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's better.

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Speaker 5: Than a loss.

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Speaker 2: It is better than a loss. But you know, not

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Speaker 2: being able to stop them with less than a minute

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Speaker 2: ago is disappointing. Obviously, a lot of guys ended on

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Speaker 2: a down note as a result of that. You know,

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Speaker 2: Zach was telling me in the postgame show I did

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Speaker 2: with him that, you know, the personnel that was left

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Speaker 2: for them to work with, they had to have a

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Speaker 2: lot of linebackers out there, enough defensive backs. Some guys

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Speaker 2: get nicked up and they were a little bit hamstrung

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Speaker 2: and as to what they could do from a coverage standpoint,

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Speaker 2: and it had taken advantage of a big time you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously you're hopeful somebody steps up and makes the play.

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Speaker 2: But what was not meant to be.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals went nearly eight preseason quarters without scoring an

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Speaker 1: offensive touchdown, but they got one with fifty seconds to go.

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Speaker 1: How big of a relief do you think that is

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Speaker 1: for the offense and coordinated Brian Gallaghan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a load off their minds and

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Speaker 2: their shoulders. Eight plays, eighty yards, two minutes, twenty five seconds.

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Speaker 2: Hadn't scored a touchdown in a one hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 2: minutes and ten seconds and got it done. Six of

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Speaker 2: eight plays in that drive went for first down. So

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Speaker 2: Browning was four for forty two yards, two rushes for

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Speaker 2: thirty three more. I mean he was seventy five of

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Speaker 2: the of the eighty yards he accounted for. So it

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Speaker 2: was a big night for brown to get his first

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Speaker 2: NFL touchdown. He was very excited about that. He said,

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Speaker 2: it's almost a surreal feeling. And I kind of know

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Speaker 2: what he means. I mean, just playing in your first

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Speaker 2: NFL game this was the second one. But doing something

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Speaker 2: in the early stage of your career, even if it's preseason,

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Speaker 2: it's a rush. There's no doubt. It's an adrenaline rush.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to quarterback Jake Browning. He threw for

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Speaker 1: one forty, he ran for fifty between training camp in

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Speaker 1: two preseason games as of right now. Do you think

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Speaker 1: he is the leader? I would done think it'd be

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Speaker 1: able to buy a wide margin. But if so, do

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Speaker 1: you think he's the leader in the battle to be

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's back up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's coming down the home stretch,

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Speaker 2: you know, And I think that you know, when you

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Speaker 2: look at it. Trevor Simeon had some had some issues

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Speaker 2: finishing up in the in the second half of the

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Speaker 2: football game. Browning was finishing up in the second half

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Speaker 2: of the football game with different personnel and you get

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Speaker 2: earlier in the football game and he was able to,

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Speaker 2: you know, make some play. So it's good to have options.

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Speaker 2: It's good to that it's competitive. It's good that they

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Speaker 2: have to make a decision, just like a lot of

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Speaker 2: roster decisions that you have to make. It's not it's

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Speaker 2: not a landslide, it's a it's a it's a battle,

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Speaker 2: and it could come down to that very last preseason game.

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Speaker 2: You know who who ends up, you know, making more plays.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that they've evaluated every single you know,

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Speaker 2: seven on seven, eleven on eleven, all through OTA's mini camp,

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Speaker 2: training camp. I mean, they've got a water paper from

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Speaker 2: an evaluation standpoint, the water tape, you know, from an

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Speaker 2: evaluation standpoint. So it doesn't come down to just a

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Speaker 2: drive or a series or a game.

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Speaker 1: And I should make it clear. I didn't think Simeon

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Speaker 1: was bad at all. He had had great drive at

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Speaker 1: the end of the half to get the Bengals on

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Speaker 1: the board, had a good drive on the opening possession.

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Speaker 1: They went for it on fourth and too where they

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Speaker 1: would have kicked the field goal, So he was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I just thought Brownie was better, and the difference is

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Speaker 1: probably his legs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that that he did a really good

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Speaker 2: job of taking full advantage of, you know, real estate

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Speaker 2: that he could take advantage of. You know, he was

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Speaker 2: lamenting the interception and he basically said what my reaction

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Speaker 2: was when it took place, you know, it was just

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Speaker 2: kind of press them a little bit, trying to do

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Speaker 2: too much too soon. I mean, was there was still

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Speaker 2: plenty of time in the game. You didn't have to

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Speaker 2: try to force a play like that at that stage.

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Speaker 2: And you know he was lamenting that very thing, but

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Speaker 2: instead of crying in his beer, he just, you know,

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Speaker 2: how do you handle adversity? That's a big key, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, is a guy gonna crumble or is a

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Speaker 2: guy gonna jump up and say, I can you know,

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Speaker 2: put that aside. I can departmentalize I'm gonna move on

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Speaker 2: and make plays. And he did it. Credit him.

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Speaker 1: Defensively, Mike Hilton and Joseph Osai combined for the big play,

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Speaker 1: the interception on the Falcons opening drive. If you had

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Speaker 1: to pick out, I'd kind of under the radar defensive guy.

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Speaker 1: Raymond Johnson showed up in a big way. He was

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals practice squad last year, but he made

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Speaker 1: several impressive plays.

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Speaker 2: He did, and it was probably against competition. He felt

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Speaker 2: like he should step up and make those plays. But

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Speaker 2: he made them, you know, and maybe next week he'll

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Speaker 2: get in the rotation a little bit sooner and play

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Speaker 2: against you know, maybe a cut above caliber player. That's

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Speaker 2: the thing that from a coaching standpoint, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're evaluating the plays and you're evaluating normally what your

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Speaker 2: guy is doing, but who is he doing it against?

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Speaker 2: You know, and and and that's that's a that's a

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Speaker 2: tough curve sometimes, you know, to try to try to

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Speaker 2: grade it fairly, But in my mind, the bottom line is,

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Speaker 2: you know, either you make plays you don't, and he

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Speaker 2: made he made some splash plays. I mean, he flashed

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Speaker 2: in this football game.

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Speaker 1: I only remember one sack. Did you feel like the

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Speaker 1: offensive line was at least better than Week one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was. I thought that, you know

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Speaker 2: that they played with a lower pad level, a wider base,

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Speaker 2: all the things that you want to play with. You know,

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Speaker 2: when when it gets going full speed like that, sometimes

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Speaker 2: you're you know, you're in a survival mode and all

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Speaker 2: your technique and everything you've worked on so long just

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Speaker 2: kind of goes out the window and you're just scuffling. Man.

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Speaker 2: You just you're just fighting to survive. And I think

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Speaker 2: they were. I thought they were more disciplined in the

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Speaker 2: way they played. I thought they were penalized less. And

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Speaker 2: I thought their technique and in the way they approached

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Speaker 2: it was much better.

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Speaker 1: The defense played a series. Jona Williams played a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That was it for the starters. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're going to see them in the final preseason game

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Speaker 1: next week of Washington.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like it really doesn't. And honestly, to

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Speaker 2: get through this game as healthy as they did when

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Speaker 2: they did play everybody and let's face it, the you

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Speaker 2: know the number ones were out there for fifteen snaps

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Speaker 2: on defense. Yeah, on defense, I mean it was you

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Speaker 2: know they were they were out there for literally two

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Speaker 2: series or three series in a normal football game. And

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Speaker 2: because of the player Mike Hilton and assignmid they didn't

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Speaker 2: give up any points, you know, so it was the

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Speaker 2: best of both worlds. I get tested cardiovascly, physically, you know,

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Speaker 2: really got in the flow of how do you perform

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Speaker 2: when you are fatigue mode at the end of a

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Speaker 2: long drive. And there are a lot of good things

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Speaker 2: that you can take from that game, from that drive.

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Speaker 2: So if you're going to only play one series in

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Speaker 2: a preseason, that's not a bad one to have been

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Speaker 2: a part of because a lot of things took place

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Speaker 2: during the course of that thing.

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Speaker 1: Make sure your grandkids know that Buddy's going to get

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Speaker 1: home very late after a preseason road game in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and Buddy needs to sleep in on Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: He needs to sleep in. I know, I know there

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Speaker 2: were some early games tomorrow morning, But guys, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I'm going to make it. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I might sleep through that alarm clock. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I'm going to hear that alarm clock. It's it's it's.

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Speaker 2: The games are in jeopardy, is all I can say.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully Lap is well rested and his grandkids understand. The

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Speaker 1: Now time for this week's edition of fun Facts, where

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Speaker 1: you get to know the person under the pads. Time

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Speaker 1: for some fun facts. A rookie linebacker Shaka Hayward. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with your last name, Hayward. Yep, you are the

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Speaker 1: cousin of Cameron Hayward, the six time Pro bowler with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. His brother Connor also plays for the Steelers. Right,

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Speaker 1: how has the Hayward name impacted your path to the NFL?

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Speaker 8: You know, I'd come from a strong family, So that's

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Speaker 8: just that name, just it just brings all the things

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Speaker 8: you know a man should be in our family. You know,

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Speaker 8: being the the leader of the family is just just

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Speaker 8: being a hard, hard nos guy, blue collar, working hard,

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Speaker 8: you know, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: You're from Tequila, Georgia, about thirty miles away from Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe your hometown.

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Speaker 8: It's a small hometown, but it's grown, you know, that's

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Speaker 8: north side of Atlanta, Metro. Atlanta's really growing now. It's

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Speaker 8: always been a good area. A lot of guys come

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Speaker 8: out of their highly recruited football players come out of there.

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Speaker 7: They got good football down there.

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Speaker 1: We're visiting with rookie linebacker Shaka Hayward. Were you completely

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Speaker 1: focused on sports as a kid or did you have

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Speaker 1: any other interests?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty much these focused on sports. I would do football, baseball,

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Speaker 8: I got into basketball a few years, and then once

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Speaker 8: I got a high school, pretty much stuck with football.

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Speaker 1: When it came time for college, you chose Duke all

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Speaker 1: right for the athletics or the academics.

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Speaker 7: You know both.

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Speaker 8: You know, I wouldn't go to the school like that

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Speaker 8: just to you know, play Foodvises wanted to take advantage

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Speaker 8: of both sides of the of the coin there, so

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Speaker 8: you know, they got great academics and football.

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Speaker 1: You're majors listed as evolutionary anthropology. How would you describe

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Speaker 1: that field of study.

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Speaker 8: I liked it, you know, I just like learning about

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Speaker 8: the history of you know, humans and you know, other

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Speaker 8: animals over time and how we just developed as a species.

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Speaker 5: How hard was Duke?

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Speaker 8: Well, I had great academic advisors, academic advisors which made

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Speaker 8: it easy for me to you know, be able to

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Speaker 8: stay ahead of my classes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: So not too bad.

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Speaker 1: You were a four year starter at Duke and a

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Speaker 1: two time winner of the Vincent Ray Award, which goes

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Speaker 1: to the team's top linebacker. Vincent Ray, of course, is

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Speaker 1: Vinnie Ray, former Bengal team Chaplain. Have you two guys

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Speaker 1: hit it off since you got here?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 8: I was talking to him throughout the you know, the

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Speaker 8: draft process, and he just told me to, you know,

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Speaker 8: keep working, watch a lot of film. Yeah, but we've

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Speaker 8: been He's been a great mentor for me on and

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Speaker 8: off the field, just about life in general. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: he's been great ever since I met him and through Duke,

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Speaker 8: So he's been great.

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Speaker 1: You were invited to the NFL Combine ran a four

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Speaker 1: five three forty, which was in the top ten among linebackers.

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Speaker 1: You played in the East West Shrine Game. Tell me

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the lead up to the draft

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Speaker 1: and your preparation for trying to earn a spot with

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Speaker 1: an NFL team.

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Speaker 7: It was good, you know.

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Speaker 8: I tried to do everything I could, you know, maximize

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Speaker 8: my potential in the draft by like you said, having

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Speaker 8: a good top ten forty, you know, not testing well

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Speaker 8: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: But when it comes down.

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Speaker 8: To football, also trying to sharpen my skills because I

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Speaker 8: know the combine is just testing numbers, but when you

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Speaker 8: get to the league, it's more about, you know, how

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Speaker 8: efficient you are as a mover. You know, it's not

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Speaker 8: really how fast you run the forty. You got to

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Speaker 8: be able to read offenses, you know, react to different things.

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Speaker 8: So it's just tying it all together.

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Speaker 5: Was it disappointing not to be drafted.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was disappointed, but they gave me a little

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Speaker 8: a chip on my shoulder definitely, you know, heading into

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Speaker 8: the heading into UTA's with the Bengals to just prove myself,

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Speaker 8: to prove that I'm somebody that you know, they need

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Speaker 8: on the team.

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Speaker 1: Had you talked to the Bengals in the pre draft

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Speaker 1: process and why did you wind up signing with Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I.

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Speaker 8: Talked with coach Betch and coach Kovacs. I can't remember.

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Speaker 8: I definitely had a zoom meeting with a coach Becher

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Speaker 8: and we just talked football and he asked me a

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Speaker 8: lot of good questions just about the stuff that we

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Speaker 8: were in just knowing like the whole defense, knowing what

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Speaker 8: the the moves were, what the possibilities were from the offensive, uh,

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Speaker 8: from offense standpoints like the routes or the run game,

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Speaker 8: stuff like that. We talked about a lot of you know,

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Speaker 8: things that he wanted to do to work with me. Uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, once I got here, and if I got here,

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Speaker 8: like on with the Bengals, felt like they had a

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Speaker 8: good culture, you know, talking to the UH coach, I

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Speaker 8: felt like they had a good winning culture.

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Speaker 7: And when I got here, everyone.

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Speaker 8: Was really you know, obviously professional, but they're obviously trying

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Speaker 8: to be like the best that they could and to

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Speaker 8: just push each other and that just that's like the

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Speaker 8: kind of environment I wanted to be around. So that's

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Speaker 8: why I chose one to the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Some wild card topics now for rookie linebacker Shaka Hayward

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Speaker 1: who's your all time favorite athlete in any sport and why.

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Speaker 7: I don't have to go Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 8: Just how relentless he was, how fearless he was, and uh,

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Speaker 8: you know in the ring, and he just always talking

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Speaker 8: about being in that mode, not even being able to

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Speaker 8: turn it off even when he goes home, which is

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Speaker 8: you know, not necessarily a great thing, but actually shows

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Speaker 8: you know, like how locked in he was and how

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Speaker 8: like determined he was to be just like the best.

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Speaker 1: So what do you like to spend your money on?

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Speaker 7: Mm I really don't like to spend the money at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a good trade for a rookie.

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Speaker 8: If anything else, you know, take my parents to a

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Speaker 8: nice place, you know, spend time with family uther than football.

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Speaker 5: What was your favorite part of being a Duke student.

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Speaker 8: Just connecting with the other uh students or student athletes,

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Speaker 8: like on campus. You know, they're all like the best

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Speaker 8: at what they do, whether that's you know, being an engineer, mathematicians, lacrosse, soccer.

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Speaker 8: They're all just like the at the top of their line.

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Speaker 8: So it was great being around them.

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Speaker 1: It is an impressive student body. Final question for Shaka Heyward.

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Speaker 1: This one's kind of deep. If you could meet anybody

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Speaker 1: in history living or deceased, could be an athlete, entertainer, statesman,

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Speaker 1: whoever it might be. Who would that person be? Shaka Zulu.

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Speaker 1: He was a leader of the uh Zulu nation in

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Speaker 1: South Africa. And you know, I I think it'd be

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Speaker 1: cool because I'm named after him, so I think it'd

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Speaker 1: be cool to obviously meet him. And you know, see

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Speaker 1: who just pick his brand about just being a fearless

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Speaker 1: leader that he was back.

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Speaker 7: In the day.

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Speaker 5: So Shakazula, Yep, that's right, yep, Shaka.

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Speaker 1: Heyward, best of luck the rest of the preseason, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for the time.

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Speaker 7: All right, thank you, I appreciate it.

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