1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky and jooky. I'm 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Hey, I ghost said. 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: By Ross Dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz Dress Fales. Guys. 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: I was reading some stories in the Facebook group ghosted 6 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: by Roz Dress fALS. There are so many good ones 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: that have been posted lately, so go in there and 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: check it out if you have not yet. I was 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: just reading this one from Chris. Chris writes, Hey, so 10 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: I have a poltergeist experience to share from my childhood. 11 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: I had a few ghostly experiences when I was a kid, 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: but I always have been a skeptic and could easily 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: brush them off. For example, I'd see things like ghosts 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: but figured it was just shadows and my mind playing 15 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: tricks on me in the dark, etc. But the only 16 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: for sure experience I've had was when I was seven 17 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: or eight. I was tucked in bed and my mom 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: left my room to get me some water. I used 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: to put out my clothes for school the next morning, 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: folded up on a chair behind the door. My room 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: light was off, but the hallway was on, so it 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: was a little shadowy in my room. But I could 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: still see. I knew I was alone my mom, which ps, 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: it's mom, not mom, m M. I'm guessing you might 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: be from England. My mom was gone for about one minute, 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: and in that time, I watched my bald up socks, 27 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: which were on top of my clothes across the room 28 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: fucking levitate. I was frozen in and after about ten seconds, 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: they were thrown at me, hitting the radiator next to 30 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: my bed with a thud and bouncing onto my leg. 31 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: When my mom came back, I couldn't speak. The next day, 32 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I went in my room and the socks were still 33 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: on my bed, so I know I didn't imagine it. 34 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Other than that, I haven't really had experiences, but that 35 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: one is something I can't explain. You know, I've spent 36 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: so much of my time, thank you Chris for sending 37 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: me that. I've spent so much of my time in quarantine, 38 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: reading books about the paranormal and different theories and you know, 39 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: just trying to educate myself a little bit. And I 40 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: was very fascinated to read a little bit about when 41 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: objects levitate and move around because I've pondered it on 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: this podcast. How does that happen? And I was fascinated 43 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: to read that many theories just that it's actually telekinesis 44 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: or psychokinesis, you know, kind of carry style that ghosts 45 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: are doing when they are moving objects, so it's not 46 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: so much that they're picking it up with their hands, 47 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: which is kind of what I always thought. I thought 48 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: they just kind of took their ghost fingers and picked 49 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: up things and through them. But it's actually them using 50 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: their minds possibly, which I found very fascinating. But another 51 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: thing I've been finding fascinating is in the Facebook group, 52 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: it seems that there are a lot of real time 53 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: ghost encounters happening. There's been, and people have sent me 54 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: emails in various messages telling me of ghost things that 55 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: are currently happening right now in their home, which I 56 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: can't help but to wonder, is that happening because we 57 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: are forced to be home and these ghosts, you know, 58 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: maybe these ghosts have been living these secret lives where 59 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: we leave and then they're like, okay, out, time to party, 60 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: But now we're not leaving, so they're like, okay, well, 61 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: I guess kat's out of the bag. I'm gonna go 62 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: let my free flag fly. Whether this person is home 63 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: or not. I think that's what's happening, and I'll read 64 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: you one other story of one of the many real 65 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: time ghost experiences that seem to be happening. This one 66 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: is also in the Facebook group from Lauren. Lauren writes, 67 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I've got some spooky happenings going on, y'all. I live 68 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: in the house I grew up in. It's me, my husband, 69 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: and our six year old daughter and two year old son. 70 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: As a kid in teen, my siblings and I always 71 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: thought our home was haunted. Weird crap happened all the time, 72 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: like slamming doors, coming home and all the doors were open, 73 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: a window is open, etc. My dad was a cop 74 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: and obsessively closed all the doors and windows and lock 75 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: them before leaving the house, but still this happened frequently 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: enough to make it a thing. Well, we moved into 77 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: this house last summer, and at first it felt empty. 78 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Slowly weird things started happening, and it now feels like 79 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: the same presence that was here when I was a 80 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: kid is back. We have a garage door motion sensor 81 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: that tells us when our back door opens and closes. 82 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Last week it opened and closed per our censor, But 83 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: when I went down there. It was fully closed and 84 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: no one had opened it. My daughter's been complaining of 85 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: something in the closet so much that we switched her rooms. 86 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: She slept in my brother's old room, and my brother 87 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: had a ton of weird shit in all caps, A 88 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: ton of weird shit happened when he was younger. I 89 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: won't even get into that now because it's a lot. Now. 90 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: Our two year old is suddenly getting spooked. Last night, 91 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: he woke up around midnight and I heard him crying, Mommy, 92 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: I'm scared. I'm scared, mommy. This morning, during breakfast, he 93 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: suddenly became scared again and said, Mommy, a ghost and 94 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: pointed to the kid's room. I asked him to show me, 95 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: and he took my hand, walked in the room and 96 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: pointed to the bed and said. 97 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: Up there, ghost, scary monster. 98 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: I know there is something in this house. It feels 99 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: like it's always watching, and I can tell it hangs 100 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: out in the hallway. Definitely feeling creeped out today. Oh 101 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: my god, Lauren, that is terrifying. So I hope you 102 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: and your family are doing okay, And thank you so 103 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: much for sharing that story with me. You guys, I 104 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: am so excited to have on the show today. Someone 105 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: that I absolutely adore, Becka Martinez from the podcast Chatty Brads, 106 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: and I know many of you have heard me on 107 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: that podcast, and her co host, whose name is Jess Ambrose, 108 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: has also been on this podcast, so if you haven't 109 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: heard that episode, go back and listen to it. She 110 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: also has some great ghost stories. So without further ado, 111 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: let's get on with the show. Here is Becca Martinez, 112 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Becca H. 113 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, I'm finally here on your podcast. 114 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm so excited, Becca, I am so excited to have 115 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: you on here. How is how is quarantine going? 116 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: With? 117 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah saying having a baby. 118 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: It only took a pandemic for me to come on 119 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: the show. Now that we can record remotely, I am 120 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: not gonna lie being a pregnant person. I felt the 121 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: same way when I was pregnant with my daughter, my 122 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: first one. I get super kind of anti social. I 123 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: don't really want to leave the house and feel like 124 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: guilty for not calling people back and all that kind 125 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: of thing. But now not only is you know, not 126 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: only do I have a great excuse to stay home 127 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: and not do anything. Also I don't have any fomo 128 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: because no one else is doing anything either, so right, 129 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: So that's my very positive outlook on it. Of course, 130 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: obviously there are a lot of people, including my own 131 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: family members and friends and so many others, that are 132 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: being very negatively affected by all of this. But if 133 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: we're talking about on the positive side, I like that 134 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't really have to go anywhere, and that nobody 135 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: else has to go anywhere either. So yeah, and plus 136 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: we were already planning for a home birth, so I 137 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: kind of look a little bit less crazy than normal 138 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: since the hospital is kind of a scary place to 139 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: be right now. 140 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: So, oh my god, I know, wait, how far away 141 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: are you? 142 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: So I'm let's see, I'm thirty three weeks. So yeah, 143 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: sometime in the next two months, baby is going to 144 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: be making his appearance. Pretty exciting, Oh my god, I know, 145 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: very exciting. It's wild. Well. 146 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: One of the many reasons why I've wanted to have 147 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: you on this podcast is because you're one of those 148 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: people that just has a billion ghost stories. 149 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: I feel like. 150 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: You're one of those people that just ghost love. You're 151 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: kind of like me in that way. What's the first 152 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: one that you've ever had, Like, what was your first experience? 153 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: Hmm, that's a pretty good question. 154 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: Did you grow up believing in ghosts? 155 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And I don't remember if 156 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: I've covered this with you before, but like I come 157 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: from a very very Christian family, and also I'm half Mexican, 158 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: so my whole Mexican side of the family, everyone and 159 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: their mother has like a million ghost stories. Like my 160 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: aunts have some of the most terrifying stories of supernatural 161 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: encounters you've ever heard, you know, like it's so weird. 162 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: Like I remember, I remember hearing ghost stories ever since 163 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: I was little, but we didn't really since my whole 164 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: family's religious, we don't call them like ghost stories. Is 165 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: more like about spirits, you know, and demons and like 166 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: that kind of thing God. 167 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: What kind of religion Christian. 168 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: And then my my and then you know, extended family 169 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: on Mexicano side Catholic. So I just remember like my 170 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: grandpa telling stories of like he I mean, he had 171 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: some crazy stories. I don't even I don't even know. 172 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where you're like, how many 173 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: of these are actually true? Like he had this story 174 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: of how he used to work in a like a 175 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: coal mine in Mexico and how like his job was 176 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: like as a child was something like they had to 177 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: go in and put like dynamite in and like crawl 178 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: out in time. But then one of his little friends 179 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: like didn't make it out in time. And these are 180 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: like ten year olds, and then he remembers getting haunted 181 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: by the ghost of that child or something, and I'm like, 182 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: that doesn't that sounds like something out of a movie. 183 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't even know how real that is, but I 184 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: definitely remember hearing those kind of stories all the time 185 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: growing up. And then let's see my first real I 186 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: never like would actually, I've never seen any kind of 187 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: what do they call it an apparatus or something? Yeah, 188 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: not an aaratus. I don't what's an apparatus? 189 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: An apparatus like a breathing apparatus, like like a device. Okay, 190 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: but listen, if one of those devices die and come 191 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: back to the ghost, they would be an apparatus apparition. 192 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: Oh I like that. No, I've never seen the apparition before. 193 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: I more have have had like a sense. So I 194 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: definitely remember as a kid going into people's houses is 195 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: and getting like a really weird vibe. I guess that's 196 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: not something unique. I think a lot of people experience that. 197 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: But that's definitely one of the first things I remember 198 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: is like would be waking up in the middle of 199 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: the night and having like this weird Have you ever 200 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: experienced that where it's like a weird sense there's something 201 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: in the room with you, or like kind of a 202 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: thick can I can only describe it this way, as 203 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: like a thick presence in the room or something that's 204 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: like hovering. Like thick is a weird way to describe it. 205 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: But Honey, whenever I enter a room, people feel a 206 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: thick presence. 207 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: The air is thick. 208 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: My friend, you've seen I go. 209 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: So I remember in high school. This is like one 210 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: of the most clear memories I'd have. I would wake 211 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: up at almost like the same time every night around 212 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: like I was something around around like two or three am. 213 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: What is there like a specific time. 214 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Well, they say the witching hours around three am, Okay, 215 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: when the veil is thinnest between the other side and 216 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: this dimension. 217 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: Why is that? Where did that number come from? You know? 218 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: I think that there's certainly folklore in history behind why 219 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: they say that, But I think it's when witches felt 220 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: they could contact the uh, the other realm was through 221 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: that hour through. I believe that's the history of it. 222 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: Maybe because it's like me, I'm not really in the 223 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: middle of the night or something like two or three 224 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: am is just smacked out in the middle of it. 225 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. 226 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like free for all hour. It's like, 227 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, at this point the ghosts, you know, if 228 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: you want to come out and play, you got one hour, guys. 229 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: And it's like it's like recent. 230 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: Well, I want to say it was like three it 231 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: was like actually really specific, I want to say it 232 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: was like three ten or something like that. So I 233 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: wonder if anyone listening is going to be like, oh 234 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: my god, three ten, that's the time of this and 235 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: that I don't know. But I used to look at 236 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: I would roll over and look at the clock, and 237 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: I would get really freaked out every single time. Like 238 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be sleep paralysis, but I would feel so 239 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: scared that I didn't want to move or couldn't move. 240 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: I would kind of just lay there paralyzed in fear. 241 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: And then I would usually lay awake for a while 242 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: and kind of like pray silently in my head or 243 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: something and be like go away, and then eventually I'd 244 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: fall back to sleep, but that would happen kind of 245 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: a lot, and it wasn't something I really talked about 246 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: with people. But I went on this trip to Costa 247 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: Rica and went with a group of people my age 248 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: and I shared a room with this girl and we 249 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: stayed in like a host house someone who lived there 250 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: in Costa Rica. And in the middle of the night there, 251 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: I woke up and had that feel like I would 252 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: back at home, and I just did the same thing 253 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: he's usual, laid there kind of like wished it away, 254 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: and finally went to sleep. Well the next morning, the 255 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: girl was like, oh, I had such a weird dream 256 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: last night. She's like, I woke up and I looked 257 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: over at your side of the bed, and in my 258 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: dream and there was like this old, gnarled woman who 259 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: was hovering above your bed, watching you while you were asleep. Yeah, 260 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: she goes, it was so crazy and it looked so real. 261 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: And then I just like woke up and you know, 262 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: it was just such a crazy dream, and I was like, 263 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: oh my god. And so then I'm like, what time 264 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: was it, you know whatever. So that was pretty weird 265 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: because the experience with the quote dream that she had 266 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: seemed to coincide with my experience, and I'm like, holy shit. 267 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: Every time that I was waking up this summer in 268 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: the middle of the night, was there like some creepy 269 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: old woman following me around? I don't know. But the 270 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: weird thing is I didn't I didn't really say anything 271 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: in my family about it for some reason. I don't 272 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: know why. And then my brother moved into my room 273 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: after I left for college, and then he wanted to 274 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: go like move back into his old room. My mom 275 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: was like why, He's like, I don't know. There's just 276 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: like a weird vibe in that room. I don't really 277 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: like sleeping there, so who knows. 278 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: Interesting, So do you think that it was something in 279 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: connection like to that house. I mean it's because also 280 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: in Costa Rica, it's. 281 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: Like maybe it followed me. Maybe it got in my 282 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: suitcase and took off with me for a little vaca 283 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: and then came back around the house. I don't know. 284 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: But the cute little old lady that she wanted to 285 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: get a tan, she wanted to go on a vacation. 286 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. The weird thing is is that, like 287 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: have you heard people tell stories we built our house 288 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: there so we were the first people to live in 289 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: that house. I don't know if you've heard other people's 290 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: stories like that, but I find that interesting, Like I 291 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: have a lot I'm going to tell another couple of 292 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: stories from that house in particular. But what's with that, Like, 293 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: is it the land that's haunted? Are you haunted? 294 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, do you know what the land was? 295 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: Well, let's see, so my parents live in the Central 296 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: Valley of California, so like Fresno area, and I mean 297 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: it could have been who knows who lived out there. 298 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: They found a human femur actually on a property just 299 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: like a block away from our house when they were 300 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: digging up to like build a pool or something. So 301 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: I mean it could have been settlers, could have been 302 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: Native Americans, all the above. I don't know. 303 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, who knows, because I mean I've heard 304 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: a lot of stories and theories of people building and 305 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: just the idea of it disrupting the land and you know, 306 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: reawakening whatever kind of you know, if there was some 307 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: kind of peace that was there for a while and 308 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: then now all of a sudden, there's a ghost in there. 309 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: But I always find that it's so interesting that like 310 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: let's say there was a ghost there and it was 311 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: a completely different house or different whatever was on that 312 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: land before. Now the ghost like is in your house 313 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: and like can maneuver its way around your bedroom and 314 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. 315 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's weird. 316 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Well what else happened in that house? 317 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: Okay? So one of the other weird things that happened 318 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: was like a series. I feel like I told you 319 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: this one maybe when you were on our podcast. But 320 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: there was three separate incidents that happened during the span 321 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: of two weeks when my parents were in Mexico. So 322 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: my parents were gone. And it's kind of funny because 323 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: we're Christian and we would always pray, like my parents 324 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: would always pray what they would call the hedge of protection, 325 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: be like maybe hedge of protection be around you in 326 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: this house. And so I'm kind of like, oh shit, 327 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: my parents were out of town, the hedge of protection 328 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: was down, the hedge of protection was compromised while they 329 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: were while they were away, it was anyone the hedges, 330 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: So the hedges were compromised while they were in Mexico. 331 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: So I was let's see, I was probably like twenty 332 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: or twenty one, so it wasn't that it was only 333 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: a few years ago. And the first thing that happened 334 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: was I had a few friends over, uh to just 335 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, hang out. Well, we were all 336 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: just in the backyard. We were drinking or whatever, hanging out, 337 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: had a little kick back, and I had instructed everyone 338 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: to like go around the side of the yard, like 339 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: through the gate to the backyard, so no one was 340 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 2: going in and out of the house at all, just 341 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: a little background and hanging out for a few hours. 342 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: And then at the end the night, I was with 343 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: my boyfriend and brother and we went inside the house. 344 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: And my parents' living room has pretty tall ceilings, like 345 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: probably probably twenty to twenty five feet really high, and 346 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: you know those kind of built in like in new 347 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: houses how they'll have like a built in kind of 348 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: alcove that people will put like decorative baskets and fake 349 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: plants and shit, you know, like sure fifteen feet up 350 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know. So there was one of 351 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: those in the living room and there was a lit 352 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: candle in the center of it. Like the candle wasn't 353 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: up there. The candle had been on the dining table below, 354 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: and it was lit in the center of the alcove 355 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: probably like twelve to fifteen feet up off the ground. 356 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: And immediately I'm like what the fuck? And I'm like, 357 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: Joel is my brother. I'm like, Joel, are you fucking 358 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: with me? Like what is this? Like He's like, no, 359 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: I didn't do that. And so of course then I'm 360 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: calling all my friends be like which one of you 361 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: fools went in the house and like lit a candle 362 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: to freak me out? But one, not only is that 363 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: a really random thing to do, like in the first place, 364 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: Two it's also really dangerous, Like if we're all hanging 365 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: out outside, who's going to like go inside and light 366 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: a candle to freak me out? And put it? 367 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: Who noticed it? Did you notice it? Or did they 368 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: put it out to? 369 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: No? I noticed it. It was just me and my 370 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: brother and my boyfriend. I walked in and we were like, 371 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: I mean, we all saw it. It was like one 372 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: of the first things we walked in. We were like what. 373 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: But then the crazy thing was is that I had 374 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: to literally stand on my brother's shoulders, who's about six 375 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: feet in order to get it off, Like you couldn't 376 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: easily stand on the table and put it up there. 377 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: So not only did it seem really out of reach, 378 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: a really weird prank to play. It was also just 379 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: super dangerous because I was like, who people had left 380 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: the house from the party, like about a half hour before. 381 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, Who's going to light a candle inside a 382 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: house that no one's in and then just leave? Like 383 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe I just have shitty friends. 384 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: But it was just so bizarre, and everyone swore that 385 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: they didn't know what I was talking about. So that 386 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: was the first thing I just kind of heard. Yeah, 387 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: that was the first thing. I was like, that's just 388 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: was did. 389 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: You ever think about? This is the thing that I 390 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: think about? And I brought it up maniny times on 391 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: the show. But like things when things like that happened, 392 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: like I want to see how that happened, Like how 393 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: did did it float up there? Did it just like 394 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: fly totally? Like where the fire come from? 395 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's another thing. There wasn't any matches 396 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: or a lighter or anything near by. I mean, it 397 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: was really exactly like did it just all of a 398 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: sudden appear up there and it's lit. I have no 399 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: clue this visible thing putting it up there. So that 400 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: was the first thing but I, you know, it's not 401 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: that big a deal. Brush it off. A few days later, 402 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: I this was not actually the next two or probably 403 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: equally creepy, but I was alone in the house, or 404 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: so I thought, and uh, it's a pretty spread out house, 405 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: so there's like, you know, there's all the bedrooms are 406 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: on one side of the house, and then there's like 407 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: the living room and kitchen, and then on the other 408 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: side of the kitchen there's like a like a game 409 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: room kind of situation, but it's on the other end 410 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: of the house from my bedroom. 411 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: So I was alone. 412 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: It's probably like nine. I was working on some homework 413 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: or something, and uh, and I heard one of the 414 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: doors in the house, like a front door, the back 415 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: door or something open and shut. So I figured out, 416 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: my brother's probably getting home, because I think my brother 417 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: and sister and I were the only ones saying at 418 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: the house. My parents are out of town. So I'm like, Okay, 419 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: he probably just got home or something. And then a 420 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: few minutes later, I hear in the in the game room, 421 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: we have these two doors that are like kind of 422 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: like French doors, and they're the kind of doors that 423 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: you could take both handles and like if you jiggle 424 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: them really violently, they'll make a really loud sound. So 425 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: I hear that kind of sound like someone's taking both 426 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: the French doors by the hand by the handles and 427 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: just really shaking the shit out of them, and so 428 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: I figure, oh, my brother's probably trying to freak me out, 429 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: like whatever, and I just ignore it and go back 430 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: to what I'm doing. And about fifteen or twenty minutes later, 431 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: I decide I'm going to head to my boyfriend's house. 432 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: So I'm going to go say bye to my brother. Well, 433 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: the lights are totally out in the house as I'm 434 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: walking over to the other side, and as I'm approaching 435 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: the game room, one of the French doors is open, 436 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: but it's pitch black in there, and only the sound 437 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: of the TV is on, like it's the sound of 438 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: the TV going, which you know, again, isn't that crazy? 439 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: You could just turn on the separate speakers and not 440 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: the actual like TV screen itself, but only the sound 441 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: is going. The TV is off. The whole room is 442 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: pitch black, and I go, I'm like, Joel, is that you? 443 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: And it's just this The silence was deafening in reply, 444 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: and I boocket the hell out of there. I grabbed 445 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: my keys and I ran out the front door. It 446 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: was one of those things where I didn't even want 447 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: to look behind me because I didn't know what I 448 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: was going to see. And I ran to my car 449 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: and literally did not look back at the house. My 450 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: brother's car was not in the driveway, was not in 451 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: the garage. Straight up nobody was there. And I got 452 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: the heck out of Dodge. After that one, that was 453 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: really freaky because there was nobody else. 454 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: In the house. 455 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: No, my god, Wait, was really weird. 456 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: What was it? What was the the sound of the TV. 457 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: Like maybe like news or something. 458 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: It was just it was the old lady old people 459 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: loved the news. News is at this point, news is 460 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: for old people. Everyone else just reads it on their phone. 461 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: Totally true. She's lying, so she was just listening to 462 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: the listening to the news on the TV or something. 463 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh my god. 464 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: Very creepy. But the noise of the French doors shaking 465 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: was like it was unmistakable, like I heard it across 466 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: the house so loud, and I just totally thought that 467 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: it was it was my brother messing with me. But 468 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: then that was just I mean that was crazy that 469 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: that was definitely scary. So I'm like, okay, well two 470 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: weird experiences in the past week. Well there was a 471 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: third let me tell. 472 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: You, Oh God, Okay. 473 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: So, like within the next week, I am in my bedroom. 474 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: There's a hallway. My sister's room is a couple doors down, 475 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: and uh, my doors closed, her doors closed. I'm in 476 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: the bedroom and I'm on the phone with one of 477 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: my friends, and my boyfriend is just sitting there doing something. 478 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: So I'm chatting away on the phone, and then all 479 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: of a sudden, we hear so clearly it sounded like 480 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: it was It sounded like it was right in front 481 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: of the door, inside of the room with us. It 482 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: was this sound of like what I remember hearing. My 483 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: sister remember something differently from her room. What I heard 484 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: was like like sort of like this shaky kind of inhalation, 485 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: the sort of like when you're someone sort of gasping, 486 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: like in between when they're crying or something like that, 487 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 2: you know, like taking breath. And I was in the 488 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: middle of a sentence of my friend on the phone. 489 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: I have a phone in my hand. I make eye 490 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: contact with my boyfriend and both of our eyes are 491 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: just huge we both heard the exact same thing. I 492 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 2: get off the phone, we throw open the door. Nothing 493 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: in the hallway, the hallways totally darkness is once again 494 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: at night, and my sister opens her door from her 495 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: room and she goes back and I'm like, did you 496 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: hear that? And she goes, what, I thought you were crying? 497 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: Like I thought you were crying in the hallway. I 498 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm not crying. We were in my 499 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: room anyway. So she says that she heard someone like 500 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: weeping in the hallway and that's why she opened up 501 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: her door. I meanwhile, heard something like basically right inside 502 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: our room that sounded sort of like a gasping. But 503 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: I feel like those two sounds could be kind of interpreted, 504 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: or it could be the same sound interpreted in those 505 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: two different ways. But that at that point, I was panicking, 506 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 2: and I remember my sister came into my room and 507 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: I was practically in tears, was freaking out. But that 508 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: was the last thing that happened over that two week 509 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: span of time. But it was those All of those 510 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: three things happened within two weeks in the house, all 511 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: at night, and I, for some reason, was witnessed to it. 512 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: Every single time. 513 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: Did your sister think that it was haunted at that 514 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: point or did she think that there might have been 515 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: something there? 516 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: Definitely, because there was just no other There's no other explanation. 517 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: I heard. 518 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: I had already told her about the other two things. 519 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: But I mean there was no like pets in the 520 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: hallway or anything like that. I don't I really, I 521 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: don't know, because a lot of times people would be like, oh, 522 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: your sister was probably messing with you. But I don't 523 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: know how she would sound so close to my door 524 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: and then be able to run back to her room 525 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: and close the door and pretend to come out at 526 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: the same time. It's just it's improbable, and it was 527 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: such a distinct sound. I just don't have any real 528 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: explanation for it. 529 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I feel like if people are messing with you, 530 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: they they would have really bad prank skills, like those 531 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 1: aren't good totally, I'm in the hallway and go like 532 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: that's not good, or light a candle yeah, or like 533 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: I can't open up doors, like no, that's that's the lame. Wait, 534 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: but so do your parents still live there? 535 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: They moved maybe a year or two ago. 536 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: So when did they ever have experiences or did their 537 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: shroud of protection? 538 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, my parents are My parents are so funny because 539 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: neither of them, like, even though they both believe in 540 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: like spirits and ghosts and all of that, neither of 541 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: them really have any personal stories for some reason, like 542 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: me and my siblings do, all my aunts and uncles do, 543 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: but no, my parents don't. Really. I don't know if 544 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: they're in not in tune with the spirit world, but 545 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: neither of them really had any experiences or have any 546 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: stories to tell. But I also feel like they're just 547 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: sort of Yeah, I think they're kind of not in 548 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: tune because sometimes we'll go to some place and I'll 549 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: be like, did you guys get like a weird vibe 550 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: from that person or from that room or whatever, And 551 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: they'll just be like, what, No, And they're kind of 552 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: oblivious to it for some reason. So I don't know 553 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: what that's about. 554 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: I see, I'm like you in that sense, and I 555 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: can't even imagine not being able to have that that sense. 556 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: I know. I don't know what's worse. 557 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it's I'm very grateful that I have 558 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: that sense. I mean, I know a lot of people 559 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: in my life too, where that they don't have that, 560 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: and and and I think that any I think everybody 561 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: has it. I do think that it's a matter of 562 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: being in tune. I guess I don't really know how 563 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: you hone that necessarily, but I don't know. 564 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: But I think it's important because it can also clue 565 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: you in sometimes just to like bad people and bad situations. 566 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: Like it's not it's not always a ghost kind of thing. 567 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: Definitely, I think it's something that I think it's like 568 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: a protective survival skill or something that's that definitely comes 569 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: in handy. 570 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely. My my brother though actually I was just talking 571 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: to him and he just told me a pretty a 572 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: pretty weird story that he had to happen to him recently, 573 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: and then he actually found out So I wish I 574 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: knew about the land that, like we were talking about 575 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: the land at my parents' house was on because that 576 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: might give some clarity. Well, he had some weird experiences 577 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: at his girlfriend's house, if you don't mind me sharing 578 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: those real quick, and then he found out some crazy 579 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 2: backstory about that. 580 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: So there what happened. 581 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: She moved into this apartment like in the past year, 582 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: and one of the first things that he had it 583 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: was the first night that he spent the night at 584 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: her house in that new place. And yes, yes, okay, 585 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: Fresno full of ghosts, full of demons all over the place. 586 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: They're everywhere. So he it was kind of them the 587 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: same experience as as my friend who I shared the 588 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: room with where and I'm sure you've had the same 589 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: experience too, where you kind of wake up and everything's 590 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: in its place, but it's a dream, or least you 591 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: think it's a dream, but then there's you know what 592 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean. So he fell asleep in a room and 593 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: then had a dream that he was, you know, looking 594 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: at her TV, looking at the dresser, and then looking 595 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: at the door to the left and the door to 596 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: the left. He said that he had a sense that 597 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: this really evil spirit was trying to get in, but 598 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: then the door was like being pushed in and pushed in. 599 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: He was sort of like in his mind like trying 600 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: to combat it and trying to like I don't know, 601 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: like pray against it or something to get this evil 602 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: spirit from trying to come into the room. And he 603 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: said he was seeing this like dark hand trying to 604 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: force open the door. And then he woke up from 605 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: the dream and there was nothing there, and that was 606 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: the first weird thing that happened. And then his girlfriend 607 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: had almost the same exact dream within that same week, 608 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: because she told him like almost a same dream. And 609 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: then a weird thing started happening where she had a 610 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: lock on her door and sometimes she would she said, 611 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: she said, I have no reason to lock my door 612 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: at and I never do that, and sometimes she would 613 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: wake up in the morning and the door would be 614 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: locked her room door. So those those are the first 615 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: couple things that were kind of weird that was happening. 616 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: Then my brother, uh, his girlfriend had to go to 617 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: work or something. Her roommates were gone, and he was 618 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: waiting for one of his friends to come pick him up. 619 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: And you know, Fresno gets pretty hot this summer, so 620 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: it was about one hundred and ten degrees outside, so 621 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: he was like, Okay, I'm just going to chill in 622 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: the house and wait till my friend gets here to 623 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: pick me up. He went to the bathroom and to 624 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: the right of the toilet there is this bathtub and 625 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: he was going to the bathroom and then he hears 626 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: from the side where the bathtub is on a very 627 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 2: audible likes of. 628 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Some going. 629 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: You just did that, and he said, he grabbed his 630 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 3: stuff so fast, and he goes. I went out and 631 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: I sat on her patio in that one hundred and 632 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 3: ten degree weather until my friend got there to pick 633 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: me up, because there was no way in hell I 634 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: was sitting. 635 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: There in that house alone. After that happened, Well, turns 636 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 2: out that the owner just before they moved in, had 637 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: drank bleach and committed suicide in the bathtub in that bathroom. 638 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: The owner immediately before. 639 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 640 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: So that was kind of weird, after both of them 641 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 2: had that weird dream with the door locked and unlocked, 642 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: and then also him hearing the hay whisper in the bathroom. 643 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: But also just like when he told me that, I 644 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: was so freaked out because what a gnarly way, Like, 645 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: oh gosh, what a horrible way to kill yourself, to 646 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: drink in a bathtub. 647 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: How did that end? Like? Are they Does she still 648 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: live there? 649 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? She still lives there, and uh, she's like she 650 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: was when I was talking to my brother. 651 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: She was. 652 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: She was in the same room with him, and she 653 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, just like you know, I always get 654 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 2: weird vibes from that house. So that's what she says. 655 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: And she still lives there. 656 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know, my god, that is so spooky. 657 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's one of those things where when 658 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: you watch a movie and scary things happen, you're always like, 659 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: why don't you just move? But it seems like in 660 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: real life, whenever it happens to people, it's just kind 661 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: of like, yeah, and that's the way it is. I 662 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: don't know. 663 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's hard. It's hard to get out of you know, 664 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: your paint a mortgage if you're like, yeah, there's a 665 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: million difference whatever. 666 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 2: It's not as simple as just packing up and going. 667 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 2: So like in real life, it's kind of like, well, 668 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: I guess you just you just deal with it. 669 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: Well, But also like if it's just the perfect place. 670 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I hate moving too. So if I'm 671 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: moving someplace it and it's haunted the ghosts, I'm sorry, 672 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: but you're out of here. 673 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: Wait didn't you have you had a really, really haunted apartment, 674 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: didn't you? 675 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: Kind of well, I had a haunted Wigi board that 676 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: traveled with me from right yes. 677 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: Okay, now there's no excuse for that. You can get 678 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 2: rid of the wigi board real easily. 679 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: Well, but see, I didn't know at that point. I 680 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't know very little education. No, I definitely believed that 681 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: it was the Ouiji board, because it started as soon 682 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: as I got the Oigi board. But I didn't know 683 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: what to do because people kept telling me you had 684 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: to burn it, and then people say, no, you can't 685 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: burn it. There's an entity attached to you and it's 686 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: just merely a vessel. And then, you know, I didn't 687 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: know what to do. So then people told me, like 688 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: a friend gave me protective stones and a rosary and 689 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I put it all in this 690 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: in the box and then I buried it in a 691 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: closet and then it did stop. But kind of going 692 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: back to what we were saying in Fresno with you know, 693 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: disrupting land or whatever. Once I moved everything to the 694 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: next apartment, that it like real ignited, really like it 695 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: was like peaceful in my closet in my old apartment, 696 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: and then when I moved to the next place, it 697 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: was like literally I could feel it like stretching its 698 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: arms out and going oo, like I'm awake again. The 699 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: bitch is. 700 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: Back comfortable in my new place. Yeah, oh wait, what 701 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: did you end up doing with it. 702 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: You know what, I ended up. I ended u getting 703 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: to a point where I was just like, you know what, 704 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. It's just kind of fun because 705 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad, Like nothing bad was really happening. 706 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: It's just like little things like lights turning on and off, 707 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: like just little things like that. And I weirdly like, 708 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, at that time, I was also partying real hard. 709 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: I was in a completely different place, and so now 710 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm so like, I'm so sober and I just would 711 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: not be able to deal with that. But at the time, 712 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: I was just like, I love I live for the drama, so. 713 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: More content. 714 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and I got I was cool with it. 715 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: And then I when I finally moved out of that place, 716 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: I just threw it in a dumpster. 717 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: And okay, that's what I thought, I thought, I thought, 718 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 2: I remember you saying you just threw it away. 719 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Now, I will say the next year after that, like 720 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: a good year and a half after I threw it 721 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: in the dumpster was the probably worst year and a 722 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: half I've had uh so far. So I don't know 723 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: if that was in connection. I mean, there was just 724 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of chaos going on in my life. I 725 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: might be a coincidence, but I mean it eventually ended, 726 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know. If I don't know, 727 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're supposed to do. But for me, 728 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: I remember making a conscious decision to like I'm going 729 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 1: to act like I'm not not even acknowledging this. I'm 730 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: just gonna throw it away with all the garbage. And 731 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, at least in terms of like paranormal spookiness, 732 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: it all stopped. 733 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder if it would have been bad 734 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: karma to just like give it away to the thrift store, 735 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 2: like pass it on to someone else. 736 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: Well, I bought it from a thrift store, and so 737 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: I imagine somebody else. That's what I think too, Like if 738 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: there's something connected to it, somebody else, you know, is 739 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: going to get this. Well, so yeah, somebody, because that's 740 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: what people told me. You can't give it to somebody 741 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: because it's attached to you. So I didn't know. I 742 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: still fully know how you deal with that kind of thing. 743 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: Well, also, it might have ended up in the thrift 744 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: store because somebody might have died and it might have 745 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 2: been one of the possessions. 746 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: The cycle ended. Yeah, so. 747 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 2: That could have been it too, and I wonder if 748 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 2: then they were attached to it or something like that. 749 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: I go to so many flea markets and thrift store. 750 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: I just have a home full of dead people's stuff. 751 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: You know, there is something consider like I might just 752 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: be a little bit superstitious, but I always am when 753 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: I'm picking up like furniture or items and stuff like 754 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 2: that from their stores or flea markets or whatever, Especially 755 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: like now that I have a you know, a young child, 756 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: getting stuff like doll houses and that sort of thing. 757 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: You kind of gotta you gotta think through it and 758 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 2: really pick up the vibe and be like, is this 759 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: something I want to bring into buy space? Yeah, because 760 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: you never know who owned it before, what the deal was. Seriously, 761 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 2: it's pretty creepy. 762 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: Do you have other stories that you wanted to share. 763 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 2: I don't think I have any other good ghost stories. 764 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: Off the bat, I do wonder. That's another thing with 765 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: kids though, I do wonder too if my daughter sees things, 766 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 2: and sometimes like if she would wake up crying in 767 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: the middle of the night, I would always wonder, like, 768 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: oh my God, is there's something in the room. I 769 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: don't know because our house is pretty old, our house 770 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: that we just moved into within the past year. Is 771 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: actually one hundred years old exactly. It was built in 772 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty, so, you know, who the heck off, I 773 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: get good vibes. Her room is a little bit weird. 774 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just being maybe in paranoid 775 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: or what, because there's like this little closet and the 776 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: closet is sort of like a weird add on. I 777 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: don't know how to describe it, but the closet's really small. 778 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: But then there also there's a window in the closet 779 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: that looks outside, and so it seems like it wasn't 780 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: a closet before or something like that. I don't know 781 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 2: how to describe it. But the architecture like someone did 782 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 2: some weird remodeling or something, and I don't know, it's 783 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: just a little weird, but otherwise everything has pretty good vibes. 784 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,479 Speaker 1: That's so interesting that you say that, I've I never 785 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: think about that, but my bedroom as a kid has 786 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: a window in the closet. 787 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and is it a really tiny closet. 788 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a weird thing. Yeah, maybe it wasn't 789 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: add on. I don't know, but I never think about 790 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: how weird it is that I have a closet with 791 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: a window in it. 792 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, why the hell does your I mean, I guess maybe, well, 793 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 2: you'd have electricity when it was built. I would go say, 794 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: maybe you needed to like see in the closets and 795 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: you needed that outdoor lighting. But it just doesn't make 796 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: sense because it's not like it's one thing if it's 797 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 2: a walk in closet, but this closet's like a normal small. 798 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah closet. I don't know mine, the one in my 799 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: room growing up. It's because the Boogeyman wanted to look outside. Ew, 800 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. You want to hear some ghost voices? Yes? 801 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: I do? 802 00:43:54,120 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's time for EVP h ev plicse. Do 803 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: you know what EVP is? I feel like you've told 804 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: me before, but electronic voice phenomenon. So it's ghost hunters. Yeah, 805 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: ghost hunters captured ghost voices. And I go to YouTube 806 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: and I find ghost voices that YouTubers or ghost hunters 807 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: have caught, and then I want you to guess. I 808 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: want you to guess what the either what the ghost 809 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: hunter thinks it's saying, or what you here. 810 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we're gonna do two of them. 811 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: The first one is from on YouTube. They're called Kindred 812 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: Spirits Investigations. Now there is a really great ghost hunting 813 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: TV show called Kindred Spirits. I do not think that 814 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: this is the same one. I think it's a different group. 815 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: This one name it's great. This one is in Scotland. 816 00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: I believe it's in Jed Jedbird and it is at Mary, 817 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: Queen of Scott's house. Oh and I know, tell me 818 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: what you think this goes. Maybe it's a Queen of 819 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: Scott's we don't know, but tell me what you think 820 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: this ghost to saying ooh, could you hear something? 821 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? More time, play one more time. It's like, I 822 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 2: don't know what the statement it's. It's it's like what 823 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: the like distinct consonants I'm hearing are is like will 824 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: and then some it's like will. Some kind of sounds 825 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: like somebody's saying like will someone or will something that's 826 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 2: kind of like what I'm hearing in the middle of it. 827 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a w Wait, let me play it one 828 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: more time. Okay, Oh okay, here, I'll give you some options. Okay, 829 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 1: is it a what's hobby? 830 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like. 831 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: Yes, it really does to me. Yes, that's like maybe 832 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: they but there's something to please or wait, I've got 833 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: four options. It is it B, We're sorry? Is it 834 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: C what's happening? Or D let's go shopping? 835 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: Playable more time. I mean, I feel like they want 836 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: me to I feel like the ghost unders want me 837 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: to think it's we're sorry. But it definitely sounds way 838 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 2: more like we're sabby or sabby or something like that. 839 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: It's withab, but yes, they think it's we're sorry. Here 840 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: one more time. 841 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: No, it's a B. 842 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's was saby spicy goes. Okay, here's another one. 843 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: This is also UK area. It's from Paranormal Pursuit UK 844 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: on YouTube, and it does not say where it is. 845 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: All it says is that they were ghost hunting at 846 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: the village. So I don't know what village. I don't 847 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: know where. They are very ambiguous, but I do know 848 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: that they caught a ghost saying something. And here's what 849 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like. What the literally it sounds like the 850 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: about to ghost saying yeah. 851 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: Where it sounds like a ghost is cooking and they're 852 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: like clean utensils together. 853 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, let's do it. 854 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 2: What the Okay, you got to give me options because 855 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 2: that one is weird. 856 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 1: Okay, is it a we will not give them any 857 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, B you're not my mommy. Is it 858 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: C we've been knocking all night? Or D you will 859 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: not get my money? Play again. 860 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: Okay, it actually sounds like we will not give you 861 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 2: money or I will not give you money. 862 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it sounds like you will not get 863 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: my money. Yeah, they believe it's we will not give 864 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: them any. 865 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's kind of yeah, but I also like, you 866 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: will not get my money. That actually seems probable if 867 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 2: you give me some some greedy old ghost who if 868 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 2: you heard about it, someone taking their fortune. 869 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: If you think about it, it's kind of like a 870 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: ghost center doing a seance. I'm sure could be kind 871 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: of like when you're a human on Earth and you're 872 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,959 Speaker 1: getting telemarketer calls, you know, you're getting you're getting contacted, 873 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: and you're kind of just like, I'm not going to 874 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 1: give you any You're not going to get my money. 875 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: Please try to stop trying to profit off of me, 876 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 2: and yeah, exploit me. Okay that one that was though, 877 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 2: Actually that one gave me chills, like a goosebumps listening 878 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 2: to that one. For some reason, that one is creepy. 879 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: I don't like that. It's like an aggressive whisper. I 880 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: don't like. 881 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt very like directed. 882 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, Becca, I think that's about it. 883 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 2: I could listen to this EVP sounds all day. I'm 884 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 2: going to go down a YouTube spiral because that was 885 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: theast well. I had so much fun. That went by 886 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 2: really fast. 887 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 1: It's always so fun talking to you and to Jess 888 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: and I love you guys so much. And tell people 889 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: where they can find you. 890 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: So you can find me on Instagram at Becca b 891 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 2: e k a h or you can listen to me 892 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 2: on my podcast Chatty Brod's and we talk about all 893 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: sorts of things over there. We do talk about ghosts 894 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: every now, and I think we're going to be doing 895 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 2: an alien episode pretty somdid actually, so that may interest 896 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 2: some of you folks and h and then also like 897 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 2: every reality TV show under the sun, we talk about 898 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 2: so yeah. 899 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 1: I just love Beka. Thank you so much for being 900 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: on the show backing. You're just wonderful, And thank you 901 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: guys so much for listening. You know, people keep sending 902 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: me messages the past few weeks of like hey, how 903 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: you doing, you know, can we help you blah blah blah, 904 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: because it's been, you know, a wild time for all 905 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: of us. And I so appreciate you guys reaching out. 906 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: And you know, basically, if if you leave me a 907 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 1: five star review, it helps grow the podcast. So that's 908 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: I think that's probably the best way that you could 909 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: help me out right now. I really appreciate that when 910 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: you do that on Apple Podcasts or wherever you can 911 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: leave five stars or a nice little review. I'm also 912 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: on venmo at Queen Roz. I'm on Instagram at roz Dressfuls, 913 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: join the Facebook group Ghosted by Roz, and I want 914 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: to do a listener episode. And I haven't had a 915 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: ton of people send me listener emails lately letting me know. 916 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had a lot of great ghost stories. 917 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: But if you want to be actually interviewed on the show, 918 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: make sure you let me know by putting in the 919 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: subject line listener episode and you just send that over 920 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. And yeah, 921 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait. So we have some very exciting interviews 922 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: coming up, so make sure you're subscribed. And I love 923 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't 924 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. 925 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 2: Came back 926 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,280 Speaker 1: Star, a podcast network,