1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hartunger. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode one hundred and seventy seven, 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: which is airing Christmas week of twenty twenty And obviously 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: holidays are looking a bit different this year, but New 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Year's rolls around as it always does, and so Sarah 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: and I have been setting our goals. In this episode, 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: we'll talk all about our goals for twenty twenty one 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: and the whole goal setting process and how we feel 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: about that as well. But first, Sarah, I mean, I 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: know you guys are not, you know, celebrating Christmas religiously, 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: but how is your Christmas break looking this year? Yeah, 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: so we have two full weeks off as I'm sure 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: most people do. And thankfully, unlike our spring break, they 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: are the same two weeks for both sets of kids, 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: for both kids, all three kids. So I'm working the 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: first couple of days, so on the day this airs, 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: it'll be my last day of work on the Tuesday 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: that I'm off for the rest, and my husband is 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: working the whole second week, so that means we have 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: about like five days of family time together. I hope. 29 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, let's see what happens, because I 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: feel like my husband is going to have stuff, and well, 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But then the second week is 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: definitely going to be what I'm calling camp Mommy, because 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: my husband's going to be working, kids are going to 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: be home. I remember last year, I was kind of 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: in a terrible mood, and this was pre COVID, so 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: didn't know what was coming. But for all sorts of reasons, yeah, 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: end of twenty nineteen felt oddly disaster to me. And 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: I was going to be home with the kids the 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: whole time, and my husband was going to be working, 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and I was really dreading it. So I'm actually happy 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: to say that this year, despite more constraints on what 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: we can do, like not as easy to do, like 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: play dates, for example. I'm feeling more optimistic, and I 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: think part of that is just I'm in a better 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: mood in general, and part of that is Genevieve is 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: a little bit older. So my plan is to kind 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: of like I might make like almost like an advent 48 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: type calendar for that week for the kids to like 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: uncover some activity at home. Oh, that sounds fun. I 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: definitely want to plan like multiple outdoor outings, Like we 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: just got a Zoom membership, so at least one trip 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: to the zoo, maybe we'll go back to the Butterfly place, 53 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of good outdoor attractions. And remember, 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: this is our good weather season that I've been looking 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: forward to for months of sticky, rainy, nastiness. So I 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: recognize that's different from part of the country, but for us, 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: this is like, Yay, we can finally get outside and 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: be comfortable. So we're going to try to make the 59 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: most of that. I do plan on sticking to my 60 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: normal kind of schedule and trying to do my workouts 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: in the morning before the kids wake up. And I'm 62 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: also going to be working on instituting a better quiet 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: time situation, which will involve screens, especially for the older kids. 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: But since Genevieve has dropped her nap, I feel like 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: I need to sort of figure that timeframe out a little. 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Can she watch screens? Like is she able to focus 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: on a movie or is she not very yet? She 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: used to be kind of into that, but now it varies, 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: like some days she'll be like, ooh, yes, I know, 70 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: she won't watch like what the big kids are watching 71 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: for the most part, but she might watch her own thing, 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: but that's a little unreliable. And then sometimes she'll just 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: abandon it and start wandering around and color color things 74 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: her is her thing, Like I thought you were watching 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: Milana and now you're drawing on my wall exactly exactly. 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: So still working on that, but we'll get there. Yeah. 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: I am not anti some screens, especially on vacation. I mean, 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: get some fun holiday content, upload it on Netflix and 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: let's relax. Yes, yeah, no, that sounds like a good plan. 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Maybe the morning you go to the zoo or the 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: beach or the butterfly place, come home, have lunch, have 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: the quiet time, then have a short you know, post 83 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: quiet time outing or walk around somewhere you can make Yeah, 84 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: but you got to make the driveway or something like that. Yeah, 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: but it's gonna make it work. You're gonna make it work, 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: camp Mommy, I love it. Well. We were going to 87 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: go skiing with my husband's brother's family. All of us 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: were renting a place in Colorado together and doing skiing, 89 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: and that has now been moved to Christmas break for 90 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. The place we rented from was willing 91 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: to move us to the next year. I think it 92 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: probably would have been okay. I mean, skiing is almost 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: all outdoors anyway, and like you wouldn't have been on 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: the lift with only your family. But you know, it's 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: it's fine, It's not a I wouldn't have been skiing anyways. 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly heartbroken about this trip, not how because 97 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: I would have just been in the house with Henry 98 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: the whole time. But you know, other people are more 99 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: disappointed about it. So we'll probably you know, we we 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: do up Christmas a lot here. We will make cookies, 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: We have a bunch of stuff on our holiday fun list, 102 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: and we'll probably do more of those things as we 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: get into the Christmas time, and we'll wrap unwrap lots 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: of presents, play with the toys. We may do our 105 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: COVID tests and then go visit the family we would 106 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: have gone skiing with, and you know, so we'll see 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: how that plays out. That's that's currently our backup option. Awesome. Yeah, 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: I think we also may are hoping for hoping loosely 109 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: for skiing in winter of twenty twenty one as well. 110 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, you'll have to let me know where you go, 111 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: although I guess it'll be too late for you to 112 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: tell me how it was good with family because you'll 113 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: be going at the same time anyway. Yeah, so Alex 114 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: will be over older, it'll be it'll be easier, and 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Henry'll be older too. Henry, but well, yeah, I don't 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: think he'll ski still next Christmas, but maybe he gets 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, or you know, covid'll be over. Maybe 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: I can put him in like the ski daycare. That'll 119 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: be fun. And then I'll just exactly which would have 120 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: been able to do this year, although I have all right, 121 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: I have my thoughts on ski daycares, and we've we've 122 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: had a few rather nasty viral germ related events coming 123 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: out of those. Because you're you know, the parents are 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: like putting their kids in, like they don't want to 125 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: miss their ski vacation. So the kid has like an illness, 126 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: they're not going to not put them in, Whereas your 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: normal daycare you go to all the time, like you 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: feel an obligation to the other families. Maybe that's over 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: reading this situation well. And I also wonder if there's 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: some component of like bringing in bugs from all different 131 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: places means like like I could see that being. Yeah, 132 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I've actually you're not the first person I've heard that from, 133 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I can see that our list of illnesses 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: is long coming out of those places. All right, let's 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: with that mind that in mind, let's go to our 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: goals for twenty one. You have more than I do. 137 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's first talk. Were you inspired to 138 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: set goals for twenty okay, and why why not? Yeah? 139 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: It's very unlike me, right, I don't. I mean, I 140 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: think it's just like there's too much uncertainty. I think 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I feel, you know, everyone feels sort of let down 142 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: about how some of our twenty twenty goals became impossible. 143 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: So I think there's sort of a little bit of like, 144 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, it didn't work out last year, So why 145 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: would I, you know, want to put my hopes up 146 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: for things this year? Because who knows what's going to happen. 147 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Although you know you've put it out before, there's never 148 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: any certainty. You can't really count on anything. We don't 149 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: know you know, what's up ahead, So that shouldn't necessarily 150 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: be a reason. I don't know. I really drag my 151 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: feet on this, and I gave myself a lot of time, 152 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Like I was like, you know, this day, I don't 153 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: have anything scheduled, and it's been two hours just like 154 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: thinking about what I'd like to do. And even though 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I gave myself that time I would find something else. 156 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: I find nothing else to do, just dive right back 157 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: into my novel. I got a lot of reading done. 158 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, and not my novel that I'm writing, my 159 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: novel that I'm just reading from the library. So I 160 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, it was. I think this has been 161 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: common because I've had a lot of requests for best 162 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: laid plans. They're like, can you please talk about goal setting? 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm really struggling, and I'm like, well, once I figured 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: out for myself, I will share everything with you all. 165 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: But it has been a little bit more challenging this season, 166 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: and it does not seem like it's just been us. Yeah. 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: I think there's different ways you can look at goal 168 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: setting too. I mean some I think some of the 169 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: best goals are process goals, So there are things that 170 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: are more within your control. Then it's the difference between 171 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: saying I want to lose ten pounds and saying I 172 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: want to eat five servings of vegetables a day and 173 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: exercise for thirty minutes a day. Right, the latter one 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: is far more in your control than whether the scale 175 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: says a certain thing, And by following the process, you 176 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: know the odds are decent you will eventually get to 177 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: what you're going but even if you don't, you will 178 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: have made sort of progress on improving your health, which 179 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: is usually part of the underlying bit of the outcome goal. 180 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: So I am a fan of putting things in terms 181 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: of process whenever possible. So maybe people might find that 182 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: more appealing as they think about twenty twenty one goal 183 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: setting that don't look at outcomes so much as smaller 184 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: things that are more daily, weekly habits that you are 185 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: ultimately in charge of. Yeah, I really like that. I 186 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: think that I personally struggle with the process goals for 187 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: yearly because I already have so many ongoing process goals 188 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: that I feel trepidation about late more process goals on 189 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: top of my like fairly ambitious process goals that I 190 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: think are still very valid. But maybe maybe I'm just 191 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: overthinking it. Maybe it's like my twenty one should be like, 192 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: continue the current process goals that are working for you, 193 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: Like maybe that's enough. Yeah, well, certainly, I mean, you know, 194 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: you're not starting from scratch here. I mean, you already 195 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of good habits in place, And I 196 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: think that that's something that a lot of people could 197 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: consider as they are setting their goals too, that they might, 198 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, take the occasion to celebrate the habits that 199 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: they already have. Like you don't have to set a 200 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: goal to floss because you're already flossing. Like you don't 201 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: have to set a goal to exercise, because you're already exercising. 202 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: You don't have to set a goal to drink less 203 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: because you're already consuming very minimal alcohol as it is. 204 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: And so all of these things are goals that other 205 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: people might find incredibly challenging, and you don't because you've 206 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: already built them into your life. So if you compare 207 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: yourself with the right thing, maybe like go me, I've 208 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: already hit what many people would consider to be a 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: great amount of goals already. Yeah, there's there's probably an 210 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: element to that. And it's not like, you know, flossing 211 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: has become easy, but it's not like all of my 212 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: other things have become as easy. So they can just 213 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: also just I can a celebrate my project progress, but 214 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: also just define them perhaps as continuing goals, like I 215 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: still want to read almost every day, and I still 216 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: want to do my dueling go and I still want 217 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: to meditate, and you know, et cetera, et cetera. So 218 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: you're right, I think probably recycling goals is okay, And 219 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,359 Speaker 1: we don't always have to be original about our goals either. Yeah, 220 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: all right, Well with that in mind, now we can 221 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: actually dive into some of our actual goals. Why don't 222 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: we start with your professional ones. We could do professal 223 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: and then like personal going back. Yes, and I'm going 224 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: to like summarize mine because I have like nine, so 225 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: I'll just say hare we share notes beforehand. Sarah has 226 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: a much longer list of professional goals than I. Do. 227 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: She has a much longer list of goals general. So 228 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: that should tell you right there that despite her saying 229 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: she was less ambitious for goals in twenty twenty one, 230 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that's actually true. Well, before we delve 231 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: into Sarah's goals, let's take a quick ad break. Okay, 232 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: we are back and we are going to delve into 233 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: some goals here. Okay, so my professional goals, I made 234 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: several of them, and they are all really not dependent 235 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: on being able to go anyone where or do anything 236 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: in person. So that's good. One is too, is I 237 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: think very realistic because we kind of already have a 238 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: template for it. But as I mentioned, we're launching this 239 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: coaching program for residents, and we'd like it to also 240 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: be a research study. I as part of my job 241 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: as program director, it's kind of imperative that I publish 242 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: every once in a while so I show that I'm 243 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: being academic. So I will admit out loud that it's 244 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: not that I am super passionate about publishing things, but 245 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I do need to do it every 246 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: once in a while, so i'd like to do it 247 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: this year, and I feel like that project will be 248 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: really fun. And another project which I think might be 249 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: really great to do with a resident and it's such 250 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: low hanging fruit that I just want to put it 251 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: on my list is we have seen a rise in 252 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: diabetes diagnoses during this pandemic, like significant and even just 253 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: publishing like numbers, which really isn't that hard. Well, I 254 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: say it's not that hard. It's always hard. There's always 255 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: like fifteen thousand barriers and things. But I think we 256 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: could do it, and I would like to work on 257 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: that for this year, and I would love it if 258 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: I could present at least one of them in a 259 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: professional sphere within the year. So that might just be 260 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: a poster because a paper could take a little bit longer. 261 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, so getting some research done I need to 262 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: work on sort of. Another side of my job is 263 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: that I'm a member of what it's called the Wellness Committee. 264 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm actually the chair of the Wellness Committee. We need 265 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: to do more, so I just a brainstorm and get 266 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: more of a sense of what people want from this 267 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: and just want to feel like I've made progress. This 268 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: is a new role for me that started mid year 269 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty obviously mid pandemic. It was a little difficult, 270 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like now we're done with reeling and 271 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: can move on with trying to grow there. I want 272 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: to continue to work on upping my games, my terminology 273 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: that I use in terms of teaching and engaging our residents. 274 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: It's I think I'm good at it. I want to 275 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: be really great at it. I want to go to 276 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: at least one meeting, but it can be virtual, so 277 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: that should be due amazing conference type meeting yes, yes, yes, 278 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: not like betting you'll go to a meeting tomorrow. Yes, 279 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: I'll probably go to one today. No, but no like 280 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: a multi day either. I kind of want to go 281 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: to the diabetes meeting that's in the summer or some 282 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: meeting for GM. And yes, there are a lot of 283 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: virtual offerings that could be options for that, and I 284 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: plan to use time blog planning on at least some 285 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: of my unstructured days to help get some of these 286 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: things accomplished. Awesome, Well, that'll make for a good year. 287 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: So my major professional goal for the year is to 288 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: finish the manuscript for Tranquility by Tuesday. This is my 289 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: next book, my next nonfiction book, I guess, and the 290 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: key thing to me is it's not due until October first, 291 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: which feels like just such a luxuriously long amount of 292 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: time to write a book. So I'm kind of hoping 293 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: to enjoy that writing process and not feel so much 294 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: time pressure. I am currently running the pilot phase of 295 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: the study for that I will reopen it in January 296 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: or February for the next round of it if we 297 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: have listeners who'd like to participate. It's a nine week process, 298 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: well roughly ten by the time we're done with everything. 299 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: But you know where you try out different time management 300 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: rules in your life and report on how they're going, 301 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: and we do some initial questions and questions at the end, 302 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: and that will be the fodder for the book. But yeah, 303 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to do that real version of the survey 304 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and then write the manuscript and 305 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: turn it in by October, hopefully following my own time 306 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: management rules while I am doing so. And then my 307 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: one other professional goal is to do more free writing. 308 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: I think you know, my word for twenty twenty one, 309 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: if we're gonna have a word, is fun. But I 310 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: want to I want to write for fun. I do 311 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: so much writing that is based on my professional requirements, 312 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: and that's great. I mean, I feel so lucky that 313 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: I get to write for a living and earn a 314 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: good living doing it. But it can be sometimes like, 315 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: well is that what the market wants or not? Well, 316 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to write more stuff that who knows if 317 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: it's what the market wants. I'll do more just for me, 318 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: more sort of fiction poetry that I'm not showing anyone necessarily, 319 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: And also do more stuff on my blog because that's 320 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: where I can put stuff out for an audience, but 321 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't have to run it by anyone else or 322 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: think about what you know the readership wants. It can 323 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: just be for whatever I want to put out there. 324 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: So stuff that maybe aggressively not marketable. As I rediscovered 325 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: the joy of my job and stave off some sort 326 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: of midlife crisis, I vote for more fiction. As a 327 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: fan of the Courtland Boys. Well, maybe you have to 328 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: read the one I wrote about was the Norwegian Secret 329 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: to Enjoying Winter. I will, yeah, send it to me one. Yes, 330 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: we have mixed results. I sent it to a few 331 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: test readers. Some people really liked it and some people 332 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: hated it, So we'll see where you fall in that camp. No, 333 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm seriously, guys, if you haven't read The Courtland Boys, 334 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: it is. It is a very fun read, and I'm 335 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: not kidding like the characters, I still think about them sometimes, 336 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: especially the guy who got stuck in his plot point. Anyway, okay, 337 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: all rights, family girls. I want to you know, I 338 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: failed at Mommy Days this year, which is I mean, 339 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: it wasn't really my fault, but they didn't happen. But 340 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: next year they are definitely gonna happen. And actually we 341 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: have kind of a nice built in structure for because 342 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: my kids' spring breaks do not align, which is sad 343 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: but true. So that does work well because during Annabel's 344 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: spring break, I'm going to take a day or two 345 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: off and just have Annabel Days, and then during the 346 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: little kid's spring break, I am going to dedicate one 347 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: day to Genevieve's first Mommy Day and in the day 348 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: for Cameron. So I'm pretty excited for that. Am I 349 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: supposed to do all of these? Yeah? Yeah, I want 350 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: to keep ticking walks with the kids. Annabel is already 351 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: like she loves doing it. Cameron, I need to figure 352 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: out ways to get more one on one time with 353 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: him because he's old enough for that to work. I mean, 354 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I do think like there's something about like he likes 355 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: hanging out with Josh because they have more maybe naturally 356 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: common interests of like sports and stuff. So maybe it's okay, 357 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: but I still want to spend quality time with him. 358 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: I need to potty train Genevieve. Well, we am all. 359 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that will happen in twenty twenty one. 360 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: That will be. It may even happen by the end 361 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. I mean, oh god, it really should. 362 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: And I will say, like some of my other kids 363 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: got right up to that third birthday and then they 364 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: trained very quickly. But I don't know. She's actually like 365 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: really smart and she's just like I can but I 366 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: don't want to kind of a thing, and so it's 367 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: more of a I felt like the other two wanted to, 368 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not getting that vibe from her. But We're 369 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: gonna keep working on it. She's actually okay at school 370 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: most of the time, but at home doesn't even make 371 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: an effort, despite small colored of her choice potties available 372 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: on each floor of our house. Anyway, Number four is 373 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: some you know, we haven't really doing like date nights 374 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: the way we used to because we don't have multiple 375 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: caregivers that we're using, but ar Nanni will take the 376 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: kids for like a Friday night, and I want to 377 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: like plan those in for like every quintile with Josh 378 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: because they're so nice. It's nice to have an overnight 379 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: and go out for dinner and like sleep in a 380 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: little bit, and it's just so nice. So I want 381 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: to do that. I want to finish my estate planning stuff, 382 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: which we started in like twenty seventeen or something, maybe 383 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, because I think it was post Genevieve, and 384 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: then just continue to work on our savings goals we 385 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty, not surprisingly because there wasn't very 386 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: much to spend on that we like to do, but 387 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: I want to keep most of the momentum going even 388 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: as things become more available. Yeah, like vacations, excellent list. 389 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: So my big family goal is to renovate the new house, 390 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: move in and sell the current one, so basically moving 391 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: all of us from this house to our new one 392 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: and then have it be our family home, make it 393 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: feel like our family home. And you know, I think 394 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: that should obviously happen in the next year, but it's 395 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: just a huge, big thing and so if I keep 396 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: telling myself that that is my major goal for the year, 397 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: then I think I will feel better about the time 398 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: that it is going to require. So that's that's the 399 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: major one. That's actually really major. It is it is 400 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: just I mean, there's so many moving parts, and it's 401 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: you know, the expense of doing it, and you know, 402 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: thinking about how we I mean, since we have the 403 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to renovate it, thinking about how we use a house, 404 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: like what is our sort of family structure of how 405 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: we spend time. You know, there's interesting questions involved in that, 406 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: and some of the renovations we're doing definitely take that 407 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: into account. So yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to it 408 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: as a project, I mean, and I also hope to 409 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: get through it with my sanity, my marriage and so 410 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: forth intact. But it is, you know, it is the 411 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: goal for twenty twenty one. Do you think you'll have 412 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: it like done by the end of the year, like 413 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: decorated everything? I want to I definitely want to be 414 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: a great Yeah. I mean, there's some smaller projects that 415 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: won't necessarily be done. Like you know, there's there's a 416 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: pool and there's like a little pool house by the 417 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: pool and that will not be renovated, like that is 418 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: not on the top of the list of priority, not 419 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: a priority. But yeah, the other parts I hope to 420 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: have done for sure. Well that can wait until summer 421 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. Yes, exactly, well, exactly awesome, all right, 422 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: what's our next category? It looks like it is oh 423 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: self right, okay, itself right, that's always our our Roubut yeah, 424 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: pretty much, although myself and I feel like it's kind 425 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: of built into my relationship. That's okay. I want to 426 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: do one day off where I try to schedule nothing. 427 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: It's very hard to do this actually because every time 428 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: I do it, it's like, oh, that's the day I'll 429 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: get my hair done or whatever. But I'm going to 430 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: really try again to have one day as a sacred 431 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: personal retreat day perk wintile. So that's five per year. Wow. 432 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot, but it's I mean it's you know, 433 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: there's three hundred and sixty five days, So can I 434 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: Can I have five of them? I don't know. Maybe, 435 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: And you know, on that day, I just want to 436 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: like hang out with myself and just do my own thing, 437 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: take like a personal outing, like maybe to the beach 438 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: or a museum or something. Once COVID is not an issue, 439 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: that would be my massage opportunity that kind of a thing. 440 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping to do each quantel So I'm going 441 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: to try to like schedule that ahead of time and 442 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: leave it as sacred. I'm just going to keep working 443 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: on my very stringent phone habits, which I sometimes fail out. 444 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not perfect, but I'm like getting 445 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: better and better, and I just think that's I don't know, 446 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: kind of a lifelong endeavor for me, because I just 447 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: find my use of my time and life so much 448 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: better when I am not sucked into my phone. I'm 449 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: going to continue my I don't have streaks because streaks 450 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: kind of stress me out, but mostly days of headspace 451 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: and duo lingo. I want to invite at least three 452 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: new parents for play days out play dates outside, so 453 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of a self and relationship goals, to try 454 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: to meet more people and just make more like parent friends. 455 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: I want to get outside most days, and I want 456 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: to organize our house. I'm going to restart the Organized 457 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: through sixty five program, which is I really like And 458 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Lisa actually warns you that you never. She's a founder 459 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: and she was a guest on this podcast, and she 460 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: warns you that you don't usually get through your first try, 461 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: and I did not, but I got like halfway through. 462 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna try again in January, and I'm excited. 463 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: You choose like three hundred and sixty five different small 464 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: areas to organize. That's it's not three hundred it's actually 465 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: one hundred days. It's called one hundred day programs, so 466 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: you can do it. Like I think there's three starts. 467 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: There's like a January first start, like a Memorial Day start, 468 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: and Labor Day start. And I did the Memorial Day start, 469 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: but I actually was also doing like a really I 470 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: was doing the add obsession at the same time, these 471 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: really long workouts and I think they were at odds 472 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: with each other because it kind of made me tired 473 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: and like that would have been the time that I 474 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: would have been organizing. So anyway, but kay, you start 475 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: in the middle, Like if you do the January start, 476 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: can you then start where you left off? Because I 477 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: assume that there's an order hood, but I don't. I 478 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: think that she wants you to actually start there's like 479 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: there is an order and as you might imagine, areas 480 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: that you once organized may still need love again, like 481 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: it's not done. I think Mari Condo that they stay done. Well. 482 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Lisa Woodruff and Marie con I know, are not exactly 483 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: the same. They certainly have some similarities. But no, I 484 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: don't think Lisa actually tries to promise you that it's 485 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: going to be all done. I think she promises you 486 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: it will be like a lot better. But her thing 487 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: is usually you need like three full rounds to get 488 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: to a good place. And I kind of see that, 489 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: and each day is not crazy. So yeah, I guess 490 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: that's a self goal and a home goal all wrapped 491 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: up into one. All right, well, that sounds great. My 492 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: only self goal is really I put have more fun, 493 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, doing so with the older kids. It's always 494 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: fun to do things with the older kids. I feel 495 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: like they get less time of course, do solo fun things, 496 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, fun events with Michael, with friends. And then 497 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: as for like a health goal, I guess I just 498 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: want to move more and try to eat a little healthier. 499 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: I just do not want to devote the mental energy 500 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: to my weight or anything like that. At this point, 501 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: I feel like my mental energy is taken up with 502 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: getting enough sleep and managing life with five children and 503 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: a business and such and the house. So I will 504 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: focus very much on process goals there that trying to 505 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: have more days where I get my ten thousand steps, 506 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: more servings of vegetables, that sort of thing, and just 507 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: call it a day. There. Process goals for that, I 508 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: totally agree, because what's the point of anything else anyway? Exactly? 509 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: But you can't kind of call it all right, well, 510 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: oh you still have a blog and pod category. Yeah, 511 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: because I don't count those in my work category. I 512 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: mean they are work because I do earn money from them, 513 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: and it's kind of money that I could be earning 514 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: from work if I was a full fte So I 515 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: don't know. They're a gray area, but I keep them separate. 516 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: I want to improve my organization of questions we get 517 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: for the podcasts, and I get questions for bestaid plans 518 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: and questions for best of both worlds, and they're like 519 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: in my email and like a gross like I just 520 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: I want to have them all nicely and neatly organized 521 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: so I can see what I've already answered. It just 522 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: makes episode planning so much easier, so that shouldn't be 523 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: that hard. I'm going to do it in Apple notes. 524 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: It's going to be great. And then I want to 525 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I want to put together like an 526 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: outline and some play with the idea of my little 527 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: instead of doing like a big, actual real book. Like 528 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: I can write an ebook, and I can probably write 529 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: it really fast from a lot of bog blog posts 530 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: that I already have. So I'm going to work on 531 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: putting that together because then I could, you know, just 532 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: make it into APDF and offer it for purchase for 533 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: like a low amount on my blog, and it would 534 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: just be kind of satisfying and fun to have a 535 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: lot of my methods and advice in one place. So 536 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: I called it best of BLP, but I that's not 537 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: really the name. It's a great, great idea. Can't wait 538 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: to read it? All? Right? Well, should we do the 539 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: Q and A or the Love of the Week first? 540 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: I get confused about which order we I don't know. 541 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: Let's do the Love of the Week. Okay, what's yours? Well? 542 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: I really like recording this podcast, I gotta say. I 543 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: you know, we've been having some technical difficulties this morning, 544 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: but I always love to see it coming up on 545 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: my calendar that we have a recording moment morning that 546 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: we get to you know, talk about fun things like 547 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: goals and plans, and you know that people might actually 548 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: want to listen to this. So the recording sessions are 549 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: my love of the week. Aw I love them too, 550 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: and I even love prepping for them, which is kind 551 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: of fun, and sometimes I put that off, but then 552 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: I still am very happy to do it, like when 553 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: we're writing out notes to each other and stuff. It's 554 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: it's fun. That is great, and I'm very grateful that 555 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: people listen to us and keep this alive and thank 556 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: you all. But my love of the week is a book. Ah. Sorry. So, 557 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: in addition to checking out The Courtland Boys, which I 558 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, a novel that I truly enjoyed this past 559 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: month was called This Tender Land by William Kennedy Kraeger 560 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: k R E U G E R. Krueger. It is 561 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: set in the depression in the Midwest, and it's kids 562 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: who are orphaned like running around all over the place 563 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: with various adventures, lots of people getting shot and killed, 564 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: and it's total soap opera, but it's not dark in 565 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: the well, it's kind of dark, but it's I don't know, 566 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: I just I like, I don't usually tear books that 567 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: are historical like this necessarily, but I like devoured over 568 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: four hundred pages in like three or four days, So 569 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: highly recommend. I don't think I can deal with shooting 570 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: or or fans right now, so maybe I'll do that 571 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: later in life when I'm sleeping. There's no pandemic in it, 572 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: but yes, it does have some like violence. Yes, all right, 573 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: So our question this week, Sarah put out a call 574 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: for questions. We got a few asking about college. How 575 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: are we handling college for our kids? I mean caveat 576 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: here that there's no right answered. Also, our kids aren't 577 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: in college yet, so this may completely change. The oldest 578 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: among us is thirteen, so we're still many years off 579 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: from college and dealing with that expense. So, Sarah, how 580 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: are you dealing with the saving planning for college or 581 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: the finances associated with that. Yeah, so we do plan 582 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: to pay for our kids college educations in full, not 583 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: necessary barely post college, like if they choose to go 584 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: to medical school or something like that. I'm just you know, 585 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: there's got to be a limit somewhere. Yes, three med 586 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: school toitions and three colleges is like literally millions of dollars. 587 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not, you know, quite ready for that, but 588 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: you know it is going to be if my children 589 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: all choose to go to a private college. I you know, 590 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have looked at costs lately, 591 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: like it could easily be one hundred thousand dollars per 592 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: year per kid. And so I'm not saying that's a 593 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: realistic or doable goal or that everyone should have that goal. 594 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: But if you do have that goal, you should have 595 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: your eyes open to what it actually looks like and 596 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: think about what the savings would look like. I also 597 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: think you have to be very careful not to say 598 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: for college instead of retirement. You have to be making 599 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: sure that you have planned for you know, if you 600 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: do plan to retire, then you want to make sure 601 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: that is taken care of first, because you know, want 602 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: to pay for your kids college and then turn to 603 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: them and say, hey, we spend all our retirement money 604 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: on college, and now can we live in your house? 605 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, unless that is what you want to do. Again, 606 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: just going in with your eyes open. So we do 607 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: plan to pay for our kids college. My parents paid 608 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: for my private college as well as my sisters, even 609 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: though they you know, they had good jobs, but it 610 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: was definitely like a big deal for them to do that. 611 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: And my husband was also lucky enough to have that covered. 612 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: So I think we also just feel like we want 613 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: to pay that forward in a way. And there recently 614 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: to be said for like paying it forward, because because 615 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: we don't have loans that we're still paying off, we 616 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: can devote that money for, you know, our five twenty eyes. 617 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: And so logistically, what we've chosen to do is we 618 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: our state has like a prepaid program for the public college, 619 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: which is not very expensive, so we do that. But 620 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: in addition to doing that, because you know, they may 621 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: want to go somewhere and more expensive, we just contribute 622 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: an amount to our five twenty nines for each kid 623 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: every single month, and it just auto comes out of 624 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: our bank account. It's like a reasonable amount for us, 625 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, It's it's not that you feel it, but 626 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: it's not like crazy. And I would anticipate that, you know, 627 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: someday when our childcare costs go down, that we would 628 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: ramp it up. Although it's a mistake to put off 629 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: if you know that you're going to be doing that 630 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: because obviously that money has years to grow, you know, 631 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: assuming that there's still growth of the market. So five 632 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: twenty nine's for those who haven't looked into it yet. 633 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: They do get to grow tax free and then be 634 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: pulled out for qualifying educational expenses. So you can take 635 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: use of that compounding by starting nice and early. And 636 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: then if you start when your kids a baby, it 637 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: will have eighteen years to that money you put in 638 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: the beginning has eighteen years to grow up. So we 639 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: do that. We make it very automatic so we don't 640 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: have to think about it. We also do our states 641 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: prepaid program look into each state. We just did Florida, 642 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: but you do not have to do your own state, 643 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: like I know New York and Utah are both very 644 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: popular because there's different plans and funds available, and then 645 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: you actually get to choose, like you're usually in most states, 646 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: you sign up for it and then you can actually 647 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: choose which type of fun and how you want to 648 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: allocate it, and make sure you look at what the 649 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: fees are because if you do some like aggressively managed fund, 650 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: they may have high fees. And I am all for 651 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: this is becoming a financial podcast and I'm so, but 652 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: I have done fair amount of research. You should definitely 653 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: do your own. But that is how we plan to 654 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: pay for the large expense that is college. Just for 655 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: our listeners listening to you say the prepaid. That doesn't mean, though, 656 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: that your kids have to go to the University of Florida. Correct. 657 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: So all the cash value of like what UF costs 658 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: in those years could be applied to any educational institution. 659 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: But if they did choose to go there, then it's like, oh, 660 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: we're done, and then they could save the rest of 661 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: their five twenty nine money for postgraduate endeavors or things 662 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, excellent. Like Sarah, I also intend to 663 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: pay for college for my kids. I appreciate not having 664 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: loans afterwards. I know great many people do have student 665 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: loans and it changes the experience of your first few 666 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: years out of school quite a bit. And so I 667 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: am very much that is my intention to do. We 668 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: have five twenty nines for the kids, And Sarah said, yeah, 669 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: we were made a conscious choice to try to contribute 670 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: as much as we could in the early years, knowing 671 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: that that's the money that will then grow. That it 672 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: grows quite a bit by the time the kid turns eighteen, 673 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: there will also be you can sort of think of 674 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: the money you're spending on childcare if you I mean, 675 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: we'll still be spending money on childcare when our first 676 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: kid goes off to college. But like other people may 677 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: not have that if you don't have five children spread 678 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: out over thirteen years. Maybe if you have two children 679 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: who are like three years apart, which would be a 680 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: more normal experience, at some point, you won't be having 681 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: to pay for the full time childcare. If you can 682 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: kind of mentally think of that money, you know, being 683 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: allocated toward college savings, you would still probably have quite 684 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: a few years for it to grow sort of your 685 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, by the time your oldest child is like nine, 686 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: maybe you're not having to pay for full time child 687 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: care anymore. That still gives you nine years of growth, 688 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: which is less than eighteen, but it is still a 689 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: reasonable amount of time. So yeah, now that's what we 690 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: are doing. You'd also, I would tell you we don't 691 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: have to save all of it ahead of time, because 692 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: you're not planning to. We don't. Presumably you will also 693 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: be working during those years one hundred percent, and so 694 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: you can pay some out of savings and some out 695 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: of current income too. Yes, yeah, and we actually, like 696 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: in full disclosure, I don't think we'll have all of 697 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: it like we could, but I don't want to short 698 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: change retirement, so I do plan on paying some of 699 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: those costs as they happen. If you have kids where 700 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: you know you're going to have overlapping years and it 701 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: might be nice to have, you know, a nice cushion 702 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: because you know, Annabelle and Cameron could be in college 703 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: at the same time for two years if they do 704 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: things kind of the normal, and that's that's uh wow, 705 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: that's significant. So yeah, but we will be working and 706 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: presumably with some growth in our careers, so you know it, 707 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: it should be doable. I also do not think you 708 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: need to go to private college to be a success, 709 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want anyone to glean that. I just 710 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: want to be able to offer that to my kids, 711 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: you know, as like a totally random example, like we 712 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: have many of the residents that I trained did not 713 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: and they are like matching at fantastic fellowships and they're 714 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: going to have whatever career they want and it wouldn't 715 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: have gone any differently if they had gone to some 716 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: other place. So I think depending on what you want 717 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: to go into, it's certainly not a necessity. Yeah. And 718 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: in fact, if you are planning to go to graduate schools, 719 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: sometimes you are actually better off coming from a different college, 720 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: Like if you are at the top of your class 721 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: at a large state university, that shows a different thing 722 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: than you know, being at the same sort of private 723 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: institution types that you're then trying to go to for 724 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: grad school. So something to keep in mind. My husband 725 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: actually made money going to college, So it's always a 726 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: possibility that you won't get stuck with huge bills. Maybe 727 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: you can, you know, plan for their being huge bills, 728 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: but sometimes there's not. He went to Texas A and 729 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: M and got a full scholarship to go there, and 730 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: so yeah, he made money on the process. That is amazing. Yeah, 731 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: and clearly it did not stop him from having a 732 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: career that he succeeded in and succeeds in and enjoys. 733 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: So there you go. All right, Well, this has been 734 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: best of both worlds. We have been talking about our 735 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: goals for twenty twenty one and the goal setting process. 736 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: We will be back next week with more on making 737 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: work and life fit together. Thanks for listening. You can 738 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at 739 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can find me 740 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has been the 741 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us next time 742 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: for more on making work and life work together.