1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Hi'm George and Ore and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Heart Media and Coast to Coast, a imparanormal podcast network. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Shades of the Afterlife with 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Sander Champlain. Hi. I'm Sanders Samplain. For almost twenty five years, 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: I've been on a journey to prove the existence of 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: life after death. On each episode will discuss the reasons 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: we now know that our loved ones have survived physical 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: death and so will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: What if you woke up tomorrow morning and knew the 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: reality of the afterlife. You knew that you could never die, 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: that you're getting signs from your loved ones in the afterlife, 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: and that they're only a thought away. You talk to 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: them often, knowing that your life is for a purpose 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: and that one day will take your last breath on 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: earth and they'll be the first ones to greet you. 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Do you think you'd live differently right now? While I 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: may not have a magic wand to get you to 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: that point. I'll do everything I can throughout the episodes 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: of this show to help you know the reality of 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: the afterlife, to give you a better life now, not 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: just giving you a peaceful life now, but giving you 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: one of adventure. That's what your soul yearns for. New experiences, 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: new emotions, opportunities to feel joy, help others, and set 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: out and accomplish your dreams. All of those are common 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: to people who have had near death experiences. They get 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: to see the bigger picture of life and live their 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: life differently. We all want to live our lives differently 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: in one way or another. We each have problems to 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: deal with, things that stress us out, and we'd love 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity for a new start. Think of every New 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Year's Day that's ever happened. What do we do new 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Year's resolutions? This year will be different. We say we'll 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: stop doing this or that and will change our lives 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: for the better. But how many people do you think 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: stick to their goals? Less than ten percent who set 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: out these resolutions actually keep up these habits in the 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: first month. There must be another way, you say, there 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: is Did you ever see the movie or read the 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: book The Secret? It's about how our thoughts can change 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: our lives. We all know someone negative, don't we, and 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: negative things seem to happen to them. We may also 45 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: know positive people who seem joyful always and seem to 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: put things in perspective, not sweating the small stuff. Our 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: minds are very powerful, and whether or not you believe 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: in the afterlife right now, what if you started to 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: live like you do. You've probably heard that if you're 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: in a bad mood and put a smile on your 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: face for thirty seconds, you'll feel better. Or try this, 52 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: if you stand up and put your knuckles on your 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: hips for a minute in the Superman pose, you'll feel 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: more powerful. But living life as if the afterlife is 55 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: real that can help in many ways, even bring about 56 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: some miracles. Those in the afterlife can make things happen 57 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: with their thoughts. They think it and it happens. We 58 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: here on earth also have that soul power, it's no secret, 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: and our thoughts, fueled by our emotions, can do some 60 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: amazing things. However, we have the illusion of time. Things 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: may not happen instantaneously like they would for us in 62 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the afterlife. Instead of making a resolution, try gratitude. I 63 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: think Gratitude fuels all dreams coming true. It's not just 64 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: saying the words, it's feeling that sense of being truly thankful. 65 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: I once did a twenty eight day gratitude exercise. Many 66 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: times a day, I said thank you and felt gratitude 67 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: for the little things and the big things in my life. 68 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I even wrote down things that I wanted to have 69 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: happened as if they have already happened, and gave gratitude 70 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: for them too. Keeping a journal, I kept track of 71 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: how much gratitude I gave and paid attention to the 72 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: things that were happening in my life. Not only did 73 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I feel happier than usual in those twenty eight days, 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: all kinds of good things happened, including those things I 75 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: gave gratitude for that hadn't yet happened. Rhonda Byrne, who 76 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: wrote the book The Secret, also wrote a book called 77 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: The Magic. It contains instructions for a twenty eight day 78 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: gratitude project. Many of my friends have done this too, 79 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: and have reported unpredictable great things that have happened in 80 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: their lives that they can only attribute to the magic 81 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: of gratitude. Why not make gratitude your New Year's or 82 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: anytime resolution. Now I mentioned near deaf experiences, I'd like 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: to share with you a conversation I had with a 84 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: man named John Davis. John lives in Colorado, isn't famous, 85 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: hasn't written a book, but did have a near death experience. 86 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: His descriptive journey gives a little taste of what it's 87 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: like to be welcomed into the afterlife, and I'm pleased 88 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: that I'm the first person to interview him about his story. 89 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Let's listen. When I was twenty one years old, I 90 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: was writing a moped or what's what's called now a scooter, 91 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: and I was just writing along and I lost control. 92 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to avoid hitting a squirrel that ran 93 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: out in front of me, and I lost control of 94 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the bike and I slammed into a tree. And the 95 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: way that I landed, I landed on my right hand 96 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: in such a way with my whole body that I 97 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: tore tendons from the bones in my hand. And I 98 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: had to go in and have surgery. Well, I had 99 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: never had surgery before of any kind. So I was 100 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: in the operating room and they went to inject the anesthesia. 101 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: They we're gonna knock me out to the surgery and 102 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: it'll be on my way. Well, something happened when they 103 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: were giving me the anesthesia. I could feel it, and 104 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: when it got to my heart, I had some kind 105 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: of allergic reaction and I died right there on the table. 106 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: In one instance, I closed my eyes, and in the 107 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: next instant I was in some place completely and totally 108 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: different from where I was in the hospital. So I 109 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: stood up, and I was in and this is where 110 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: all the experience, everything that had happened, happened. At the 111 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: beginning of this experience, when I opened up my eyes 112 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: in this in this place, in this building. So I 113 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: stood up, and not really realizing that I had died, 114 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: I didn't really know where I was. I just knew 115 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: I was looking at the most beautiful building that I 116 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: had ever seen. And as this progressed, I got the 117 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: idea that something did happen and then I had died. 118 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: But that wasn't for a little while into it. When 119 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: I was looking out at this building, somebody behind me, 120 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: someone somewhere, had orchestrated this entire event and had also 121 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: told me, was audibly telling me what I was seeing. 122 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: I was in a building, And try to imagine if 123 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: you can because I don't. I don't, have, of course, 124 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: any pictures. But you didn't take any pictures when you 125 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: were there, you know what, white, Why didn't I do that? 126 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: I should have done that, but didn't the iPhone then 127 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it exactly exactly, I tell to this 128 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: video corder. Sure, I looked at this building. It was 129 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: as far as I could see, it was a corridor, 130 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: just as beautiful, long, white marble corridor that I couldn't 131 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: see the end too. That's how long it was. If 132 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: you can picture in your mind doorways to your left 133 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: down this beautiful ornate, gorgeous white marble, clean, beautiful hallway, 134 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: and there were doors. It was like they were cut 135 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: out of the marble, beautiful white doorways going all the 136 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: way down this corridor as far as you could see, 137 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: and there were no doors on them. Someone said, look 138 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: inside the hall look inside this doorway or this hallway. 139 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: So I looked inside the doorway, the one that was 140 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: closest to me, and it was like looking out into space. 141 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: There was no fear, is gonna worry. They were just 142 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: it looked like beautiful stars, like you would see if 143 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: he looked out in the stars at night. And that's 144 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: what these doorways looked like. There were hallways or passageways, tunnels, 145 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: but those tunnels lead to Earth. Right to the right 146 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: of that door where all of these doorways, about maybe 147 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: four or five ft in front of these doorways were 148 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: marble tables with benches on each side, and there were 149 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: two people sitting at each table all the way down. 150 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: On all these tables, it would you could easily be 151 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of these doorways, and thousands and thousands 152 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: of these tables right in front of the right in 153 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: front of this hallway or this this corridor, and there 154 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: were two people sitting at every single table all the 155 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: way down. And do you recall what the Parthenon looks 156 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: like in Greece? Okay, good, some of those Greek looking buildings. 157 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Roman looking a lot of these or Greek looking buildings. 158 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: The voice said to me, this is an orientation center. 159 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: This is a place it helps people orientate back from 160 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: their Earth life. The voice said to me, look at 161 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: the door to your left. And just then there was 162 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: a man coming through. And these doors were probably seven 163 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: ft high, maybe four or five ft wide. They were 164 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of they were kind of large doorways. He put 165 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: his left hand up on the ledge to push himself 166 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: through this doorway, and his right arm was clutching his 167 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: right chest, kind of like people do when they have 168 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: chest pain. And I was told that he had died 169 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: on Earth and he had had a heart attack. So 170 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: the minute that he walked up into this doorway, there 171 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: was a woman who was sitting there at the table. 172 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: She got up and she walked over to him, and 173 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: she took his hands in hers led him back down 174 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: to the table and they sat down and they started talking. 175 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: And at this point I was too far away to 176 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: hear what she was saying to him. But as I 177 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: was watching this, just kind of being amazed at where 178 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: I was, something happened to this gentleman. He died about 179 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: eighties something years old on the Earth. When she was 180 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: talking to him and holding his hands, his appearance began 181 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: to change, and it changed from one of an eighty 182 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: year old man to a man who was in his 183 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: thirties or forties. After that, he stood up, he walked 184 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: to the right. He walked past that marble column, down 185 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: three steps into the most beautiful garden I had ever seen. 186 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: The ass was absolutely perfect, perfect color green, and there 187 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: were flowers and plants everywhere, and what this was he 188 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: was in He was in an orientation center where these 189 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: counselors explained to him he had finished his earth life 190 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: and that he had now come back home again. And 191 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: the reason that the counselors are there, I was told, 192 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: is because when people are in their lifetime, they forget 193 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: where they come from. And the reason is is because 194 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: they're supposed to forget where they come from. And that's 195 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: because if they remember the other side, they won't complete 196 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: the test that they set for themselves. I'll be back 197 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: in just a minute with John J. Davis. But did 198 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: you know near death experiences are very common in America alone? 199 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: More than two hundred thousand cases are reported every year. 200 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to Shade to the Afterlife on the I 201 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 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I'm 220 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Sandra Champlain and we are with John Davis as he 221 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: shares his near death experience, telling the journey of a 222 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: person first arriving into the afterlife. So what happened is 223 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: he walked down these three steps to the right, and 224 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: he met with all of his family and friends, anyone 225 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: who would pass before him. He was greeting them on 226 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: the other side after he had his orientation. So we 227 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: just profound that we don't actually age and the voice 228 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: told me here we don't die and we don't age, 229 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: but most people choose to be around the age of thirty. 230 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,359 Speaker 1: So I just thought it was amazing that the others 231 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: that had passed before knew when he was crossing over. 232 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: And then the counselors that greet him, they simply talked 233 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: with him, explained to him that he had a lifetime, 234 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: he lived to a certain age. This is how he passed, 235 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: and now he's coming back home again. And from what 236 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: I saw when she was holding his hands and his 237 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: image his visage of parents began to change. That's when 238 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: he began to realize or remember what had really happened. 239 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: That we come from there. That's our real home here 240 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: on the earth. This this isn't our real home. This 241 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: is just the place that we are temporarily. Did we 242 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: come to to learn lessons we can't learn to pass 243 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: tests in a perfect environment. There's no negativity, which is 244 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: what it's like on the other side, just pure love 245 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: that we can't learn those lessons. So we come into 246 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: the earth. We forget who we really are to see 247 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: how we'll do with what we've chosen to accomplish. This 248 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: whole process was somehow orchestrated for me, because they would 249 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: move me to one place to another, and the first 250 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: place was that orientation center. The next place and and 251 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: they every time they moved me, they moved me to 252 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: outside the building so I could see what it looked like. 253 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: The next one they moved me to had a round 254 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: top a dome, kind of like the Roman pantheon building. 255 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: It was this beautiful again, beautiful white marble building with 256 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: a white dome. And I was told that there that 257 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: is the place that we all go to when we 258 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: plan our lives for Earth, that we actually sit down 259 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: with what are called our guides, and they help us 260 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: plan for our lifetimes. What do we want to accomplish? 261 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: What do we want to learn? Do we want to 262 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: learn patience or love or respect or whatever, whatever the 263 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: main themes of our lives are. We write those and 264 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: we charted them. And when I was standing there, there's 265 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: all these tables where people are working on planning their 266 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: lives what they want to accomplish. And there was a 267 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: table in front of me that had two scrolls on it, 268 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: like old fashioned parchment paper scrolls with a red ribbon, 269 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: and one had a blue ribbon. Well, I was able 270 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: to unwrap the red one, and I could see that 271 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: it was written in black calligraphy writing. It was gorgeous 272 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: just the way it was written out. When and when 273 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: I went to be able to read it, the scroll 274 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: world up by itself, so I wasn't able to read it. 275 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: And I think the reason was because it would nullify 276 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: whatever tests that I was supposed to be going through. 277 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: If I knew the test ahead of time, or if 278 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: I knew the question ahead of time, I wouldn't pass 279 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: the test. And the voice said that we plan our lives, 280 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: and we plan all the major events of our lifetime 281 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: on the Earth. There isn't a whole lot of things 282 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: that just happened for no reason. And when I looked up, 283 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: I could see a beautiful window and I could see 284 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: people walking by, and I asked the voice, I said, 285 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: why are people wearing what they're wearing? And they were 286 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: wearing robes and gowns, and I said, why are so 287 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: many of these people wearing these these gowns and these robes. 288 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: And the voice said, I thought there was going to 289 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: be some huge philosophical explanation, but he said it was 290 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: just because it's more comfortable they can wear jeans. They 291 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: can wear boots, whatever they want to wear, but most 292 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: people just seemed to wear an owns. Outside the window 293 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: was also this beautiful pristine lake. It was surrounded by 294 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: weeping willow trees. It was just stunning. And the physics 295 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: there are different. I know a lot of people think 296 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: that when somebody crosses over that they just exist as 297 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: a ball of energy in white light, and that's not 298 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: true with my experience. When I was looking at those 299 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: scrolls on the table, I could touch the table and 300 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: it was absolutely solid. So we have bodies there. They're 301 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: different than these ones here. They're more energy, but they're 302 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: still able to hold a cup of coffee or shake 303 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: someone's hand or give them a hug. Anything like that 304 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: is still possible, just like we do here. But that's 305 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: the perfected form. That's where we're all really from in 306 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: the first place. And then they took me to another 307 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: and this was probably the best part of a whole experience. 308 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: They took me to the outside of another building, and 309 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: this was kind of like the Greek Parthenon with those 310 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: white marble columns, but it was much larger. This building 311 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: was so large that I couldn't see the other enter 312 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't see the opposite end of the building, that's 313 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: how large it was. When I got inside the building, 314 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: then I realized what this was all, or what this 315 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: building was. I had no idea what it was from 316 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: the outside, but then when I got on the inside, 317 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: I knew that it was a library, absolutely gigantic library. 318 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: From what I was told, it contained all knowledge. It 319 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: had bookshelves that were twenty ft high at least, and 320 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: full of every kind of knowledge you could possibly imagine. 321 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: And when you were in this library, all you had 322 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: to do was to think about what you wanted to 323 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: learn about, and it would instantly. You would instantly be 324 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: be transported to where that part in the library was. 325 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: So if you want to learn about animals, you would 326 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: just simply be moved to where that was. Or you 327 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: wanted to learn about geography, it would just simply take 328 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: you into where that was. It was absolutely fantastic. Here's 329 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: another part that was to me was extraordinary. To the 330 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: left of this building, there were these rooms. You'd walked 331 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: down two steps into these rooms from the main library, 332 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: and these rooms probably were ten to twelve ft wy 333 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: ten ft long something like that. They were rooms that 334 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: you could actually walk in and sit down in The 335 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: voice said, go to the room to your left, which 336 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: was the first room. So I went to that room 337 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: and there was a woman sitting in there with long, 338 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: dark jet black hair about down to her back. She 339 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: was sitting on a couch and she was wearing a 340 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: purple gown, and she was watching what looked like a 341 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: TV show, and the voice said, go closer see what 342 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: she's watching. So as I got closer, it wasn't really 343 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: a TV show, It wasn't really a video it was 344 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: It's like if you were watching a flat screen TV. 345 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: It looked kind of like that, but it was far 346 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: more technically advanced than what she was doing. She was 347 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: watching an episode in the past, about two hundred something 348 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: years ago and the Earth's passed. She was watching the 349 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: battle between the U. S. Cavalry and the Native American 350 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: Indians during the Plains Wars, And I thought, how in 351 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: the world can she be watching a real battle that 352 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: took place because there were no video recorder respect then. 353 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: And I thought, where in the world am I? How 354 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: is it that I was having an operation now I'm 355 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: in this building having seeing all these different things happen. 356 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: That's when I started to think, Okay, I must have 357 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: died in this must be what heaven is like. So 358 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to take advantage and ask questions. So I asked, 359 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: what what is this? What is this for? What is 360 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: this woman watching? The voice said to me, she is 361 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: watching an episode in history that she wanted to learn 362 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: about what really happened during the Plains Wars, so she 363 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: could come into this room, find a file, turned the 364 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: file on, and watch what happened in history. Well, here's 365 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the part that I found to be the absolute most 366 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: amazing part of this whole thing is not only do 367 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: you have the ability to watch history, but you can 368 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: actually enter it. Now. I don't know how this happened logistically, 369 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: I just know that it's possible to do so, and 370 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: that people do it all the time. What they do 371 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: is they they'll put on the screen. She would actually 372 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: have the ability to get up and walk into actual 373 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: living history, and she could experience it just like it happened. 374 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: She could experience the site, the touch, the smells, everything 375 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: that actually happened. You couldn't get hurt, or you couldn't 376 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: get killed or die. You would just have the ability 377 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: to experience history as it happened. I just want to 378 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: ask you, because it's not like this happened last year, right? 379 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: You remember this with such clarity? Oh my gosh, I do, yeah, 380 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: And I've I've told the story many times two people 381 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: for for years. I just never told it to a 382 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: radio show. Are you remembering it from you telling the 383 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: story before or can you visualize still visualize each and 384 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: everything you talk about like I can still visualize it. 385 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: So it's probably the most crystal clear memory that I 386 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: have in my in my life at all. I've interviewed 387 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: enough people who have had near death experiences. When people 388 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: have these near death experiences, they remain so vivid in alive, 389 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: much more than any memory you could possibly have by 390 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: you telling this story. I'm actually feeling like it's gonna 391 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: be so cool. Oh my gosh, I have so much 392 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: more to tell you. Okay, keep going, I'll shut up. 393 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: It is going to be absolutely I can't wait. I mean, 394 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: since since twenty one years of the age, I've been waiting, hoping, 395 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: not not trying to do anything to hasten it, but 396 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: waiting for it to happen because it's so absolutely beautiful 397 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: where we're from. It's our home. So people back too 398 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: but anyway, let me get to the next one, okay. 399 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: So after after that one, they moved to the outside 400 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: of another building. And this building was a castle, but 401 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: had a drawbridge and had all of those things in it. 402 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: But it wasn't it wasn't beaten down by whether or 403 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: by age. It was absolutely perfect and pristine. That's one 404 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: thing that all of these buildings had in common is 405 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: they were all absolutely beautiful and pristine marble. So I 406 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: was looking at the outside of the castle, and the 407 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: voice said, go in, and it was beautiful. It was large. 408 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: It was one of those big, large ornate castles. So anyway, 409 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: there was this red, beautiful carpet that was on the 410 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: floor and on the walls of loose of this castle, 411 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: on the vertical walls, there were paintings, and they were 412 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: paintings of kings or queens or other royalty. And as 413 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: I looked around the walls and looked at all of these, 414 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: and the pictures were life size. In front of these paintings, 415 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: about three or four feet there was a lectern or 416 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: a podium, and the podium had a book on it. 417 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: The voice said, go look closer. So I went to 418 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: look closer, and what these books were. They were books 419 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: of this person's lifetime. The book had all of their 420 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: thoughts and it had all of their actions in it. 421 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: This was like some kind of a museum. So if 422 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: you wanted to go read about King George, for example, 423 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: or any king or any queen, you could go here 424 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: to this castle, look at this person's book and look 425 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: at what they said, what they did, what they believed in. 426 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Did they care about the people they were governing? Did 427 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: they not? Did they mean? Everything was written down and recorded. 428 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: So that made me realize that everything that we say 429 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: and talk about is recorded, just like what that girl 430 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: was watching on that Native American U. S. Cavalry war. 431 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: Everything is accorded, so nothing is lost to time. 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Hi, this is George Nori and 455 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: you're listening to Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain 456 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: on the new ye hearten Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 457 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: podcast network, and don't forget you can listen to the 458 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, 459 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: or wherever you find your favorite shows. Welcome back to 460 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: Shades of the afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. Did you know 461 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: there's a forty year old global nonprofit organization called International 462 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Association for Near Death Studies. Find out more at Ian's 463 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: dot org. Now back to John Davis and his n D. 464 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: To this day, I still kicked myself all the time 465 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: when I think about it. To the right of this 466 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: main hallway where all these pictures and these books and 467 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: lantern lectures were there with these people's life stories, there 468 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: was a big stairwell well. As I looked at my right, 469 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: there was a woman that started walking down the stairwell 470 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: to go into the main area where I was, And 471 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: she was wearing a red robe and had had a 472 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: golden sash around it. And I looked at her and 473 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: she could see me. This was the first time that 474 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: anybody over there actually saw me and looked at me. 475 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: And she said, Hi, do you have any questions for 476 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: me about what you're looking for? And I was so 477 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: dumbfounded I didn't know what to say. So you know 478 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: what I said, I said, no, thanks, I'm just looking. 479 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: How in the world could I let myself say I'm 480 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: just looking. I could have said, who are you? Where 481 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: am I have I died, What is this place? What 482 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: do you do? And I didn't say any of those things. 483 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm just looking. And I kicked myself all the time 484 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: for saying that I could have found out anything. There. 485 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: You were in the afterlife. Somebody recognizes you. You're shocked, 486 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: So forgive yourself, will you? And there'll be another opportunity 487 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: next next time. I won't say that for sure. She 488 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: was an expert in that particular history of the Earth. 489 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: That's what she loved to study. And I thought, you 490 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: know what, this is absolutely so amazing that you can 491 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: pick something that you want to learn about, just like 492 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: you do on the Earth. When you're here, you you 493 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: pick somebody learn about. And she loved this period of history. 494 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: She was like a professor. So I could have asked 495 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: her anything, but I just didn't think of it at 496 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: the time. But anyway, it was so fascinating was that 497 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: she could see me. And that was the first time 498 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, something can actually see me while 499 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm here. So after the castle, the next thing they 500 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: showed me, I went to what I can only call 501 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: or describe as a planetarium. And you walk in and 502 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: you and you usually sit down and look up and 503 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: there's this big ceiling that is just full of stars. Well, 504 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: I saw the outside of the building, and then I 505 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: was moved inside and I sat down in the middle 506 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: of the planetarium, and as soon as I sat down, 507 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: I heard the voice say, beagin. So the lights went 508 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: out and the planetarium lit up with stars, and there 509 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: was a voice behind. This is not the voice that 510 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: was telling me everything before. This is a this is 511 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: a different voice. And the voice said, when you look 512 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: at the stars, this is what you see. And it 513 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: started showing all the different planets in our and our 514 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: Solar system, and then that disappeared, and then it said, 515 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: when we look at the stars, this is what we see. 516 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, all these planets began to 517 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: show up, yellow planets, red planets, blue green, thousands and 518 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of different planets with thousands of different galaxies. 519 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: And the voice said, there is much more to the 520 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: universe than you know. The voice wasn't just telling me. 521 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: It was like the voice was telling all of humanity. 522 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: But there was so much more to space than what 523 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: we look at and what we see. And they said 524 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: that there were more galaxies out there then there are 525 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: grains of sand on the Earth. When I was going 526 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: through this, I don't know why I was being shown 527 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: these things, but I think for the planetarium part of it, 528 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: I think I was just being shown that so I 529 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: could tell others, Hey, there's so much more to what 530 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: you think. The next was what was called the life review, 531 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: and the voice told me, we're going to show you 532 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: a life review. So there was another building, and this 533 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: building was like walking into a theater, but instead of 534 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: a theater that had you know how theaters have seats 535 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: going up in the back, this was just a This 536 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: was just around building on the inside and up at 537 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: the top were screens like the movie screen. If you 538 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: were going to go watch a movie, you would see 539 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: one big, huge movie screen in the theater. Well, this 540 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: one had screens going around the entire inside of the building. 541 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: And so when I got in there, all of a sudden, 542 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: each screen lit up, and it had a different aspect 543 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: of my life on it. If I was in childhood, 544 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: it had a picture and video of that. It had 545 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: video of me going to elementary school, video of me 546 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: going to junior high, high school, all the way through 547 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: until my present life. I was watching this this panorama 548 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: of movie screens and I was just amazed that all 549 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: of this was somehow recorded. Also, what the voice said 550 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: was you are not judged, So we are not judged 551 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: by God or by anybody else. We judge ourselves. The 552 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: next thing I was shown was fields, miles and miles 553 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: of athletics fields like football fields. You could look out 554 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: and you could see these fields going on for miles 555 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: and any kind of game that you wanted to play, 556 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: whether it was soccer or baseball, rugby or football, anything 557 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: like that. It was absolutely just breathtakingly beautiful to see 558 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: these films because they were all absolutely perfectly green to 559 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: want to play on these fields. Because we don't have lungs. 560 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: We don't have lungs to breathe through. You never get 561 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: tired there. So people could actually play any kind of 562 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: physical game they wanted to as long as they want, 563 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: and you don't get hurt, you don't break bones, because 564 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: we have bones here on the earth. But on the 565 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: other side, we don't have bones. We have more energy 566 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: bodies that don't get hurt, you never get tired. And 567 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: I thought that was something that was just amazing because 568 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: I love sports. The next thing I saw was animals, 569 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: All of our animals that we've ever had and that 570 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: we've ever loved are there. They are kept in these 571 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: beautiful open pastures, and they all play together. They all 572 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: play with each other. Every animal that we've ever loved, 573 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: whether it was a horse, a dog, cow, and elephant 574 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: to tie, you know, whatever it is that we loved 575 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: in life, will be there when we cross over for us. 576 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: And they have people that watch over them to take 577 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: care of them, to play with them. And when when 578 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: people cross over, they can go get their animals and 579 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: take them with them. And here's here's the last part. 580 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: After all that, I was next led over to another 581 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: beautiful field, green grass. And I've heard other people describe 582 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: this too, but everything seems to see him alive somehow, 583 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: like it's living, like the grass and the plants and 584 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: the flowers and the trees and everything. They seemed to 585 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: be alive, vibrant and beautiful. In any way, just to 586 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 1: my left, a man showed up, and so I turned 587 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: and looked at him. And he was about maybe six 588 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: ft one, six ft two something like that, kind of 589 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: a taller guy. I'm only five seven, so everyone seems 590 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: gonna tall to me, you know. So anyway, he was 591 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: a man standing there, and I could see that he 592 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: had a robe on with a golden sash, and he 593 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: had golden sandals. But that's all I could see. Because 594 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: he was so bright. He was different than everybody else. 595 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Everyone else I could just see exactly what they looked like. 596 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: I could see their facial expressions, I could see their hair, 597 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: I could see what they looked like. But with this person, 598 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't see that. All I could see was the 599 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: feet and the robe and the sash. And this person 600 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: spoke to me and he said, you must tell them 601 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: there is no death. As soon as he said that, 602 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: I woke up in the emergency room, back in the 603 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: operating room, having I'm trying to resuscitate me. I didn't 604 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: even get a chance. Nobody said do you want to 605 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: stay or do you want to go? You know some 606 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: people in there in the near these experiences will hear 607 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: them say they'll give them a choice, do you want 608 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: to stay or do you want to go? I didn't 609 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: even get a choice. I was just back. I think 610 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: if they had asked me, I would have said, no, 611 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: I want to stay. Are you kid? And I want 612 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: to stay and do all this kind of stuff that 613 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: everybody gets to do and they have, and the fun 614 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: that they get to have, and all the joy and 615 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: love and having their friends and their family back and 616 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: their animals. Of course, I want to stay there. I 617 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: don't want to come back here, but I wasn't given 618 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: a choice. Wow, that seems like such a long experience. 619 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: But I bet you weren't gone for that long, were you. Yeah? 620 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: I was only clinically dead for three minutes, but because 621 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: there's no time, it seemed like I was there for 622 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: over an hour. That part was amazing, and I was 623 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: only clinically dead for three for three minutes, I hear 624 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: from many people that are loved ones, they're not over 625 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: there grieving for us, because it really is like a 626 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: blanket and I and we're all back together again. That's 627 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: that's exactly truth. That is exactly what happens. I got 628 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: the impression that a lifetime on the Earth, it feels 629 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: like weeks or months, and that's it. That's why people 630 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: over there don't necessarily mourn for us when they crossed, 631 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: because they know that we're going to be crossing over 632 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: very quickly. Way, even though a lifetime here maybe eighty 633 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: five years of a person living their life, it's not 634 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: that long over there. It's a very short period of time, 635 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: and that's what we have to look forward to, except 636 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: that for us when we're here, and as someone you 637 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: know or you or you have had an experience like that, 638 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: it's so hard to try to hold on and and 639 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: trying to get too much of your thinking about the 640 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: other side. Wanted to go back, because we can't go 641 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: back until we're allowed to go back. And this person 642 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: that I saw there, I don't know who it was, 643 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: but he raised his arms and he said, you must 644 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: tell them there is no death. And I was kind 645 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: of like a little mission that I was given, just 646 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: tell people that there is no death. And that's what 647 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: I've done for years. I have just never done it 648 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: on such a large scale before. So that was the 649 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: basics of my experience, and I think I got a 650 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: lot of detail all that might be able to give 651 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: people some hope. That was my hope, was to give 652 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: other people hope that their family, that their friends, everyone 653 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: that they loved has crossed over and that they are 654 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: able to do these things and they have fun. But 655 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: the one thing I didn't know, and this is from 656 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: what the voice said, that anybody that has crossed you 657 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: can talk to them verbally and they can hear you. 658 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if they can hear us in our 659 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: minds mentally, mentally, like if we pray, I think they 660 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: probably can. But the voice just said that you can 661 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: talk to them verbally and they can hear you, So 662 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was fantastic. It is fantastic. I believe 663 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: they can hear what we think too. But how much 664 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: more powerful it is to speak and use our words 665 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: in our voice, because you know what it's like in 666 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: our own head if we start thinking something, all of 667 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: a sudden, other thoughts comes in, and all of another 668 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, something else than something carries us away. So 669 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: that thought that message might be deluded, whereas if we 670 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: verbalize it, there's intent to speak the words we want 671 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: to say. The last thing that I saw before I 672 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: was sent back was that we don't have to work 673 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: to pay bills. Yeah, yeah, isn't that great? We don't 674 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: have to work that we don't have to work to 675 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: pay bills. It's it's a difference. You work at something 676 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: that you love to do, you might want to be 677 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: like that girl was who was an expert in learning 678 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: about history. You can do anything you want that you 679 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: can race cars, you can grow a garden, you can 680 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: be a chef, and you don't have to do it 681 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: for for work. It's like it makes you just want 682 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: to go back. I'm like, why do I have to 683 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: stay here? Why can't I just go? 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My greatest hope is that your listeners can 710 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: take my experience along with all the others that are 711 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: on your show and kind of realize that we don't die, 712 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: that there is something so absolutely incredible when we get back, 713 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: and that our lives are very short. We're here to 714 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: learn and to grow, and then when we're done, we 715 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: need to be rewarded and go back to the other side. 716 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: So that's what I can't wait for. It's gonna be grand, 717 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 1: and we've got to get some stuff tied up before 718 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: we get there. You know, we got to keep our integrity, 719 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: no do what we know to do, learn what we 720 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: need to learn, what we're here, experience what we need 721 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 1: to experience. Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I was told. 722 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: Especially when we write everything out, we write and plan 723 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: our lifetimes. That were the main objectives we want to 724 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: we want to complete. And there's a lot of tendency 725 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: to want to judge somebody. Maybe somebody is homeless versus 726 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: somebody who is rich. But the person that is homeless 727 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: actually has accomplished everything that they want to accomplish, or 728 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: that you don't even know what their level of spirituality 729 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: might be. So it's really hard to judge and look 730 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: at people's lives when we don't know what they charted 731 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: to accomplish. Yeah, it's very true. I have a question. 732 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm sure in your life you've studied other near death experiences. 733 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: Is that fair to say that you've read others? There 734 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: are different ones, so your experience is different than others 735 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: I've heard. It sounds to me like there's not a 736 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: one size fits all afterlife experience we all have. Do 737 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on different kind of experiences people 738 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: have or why you know the ones that I've always 739 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: heard of were the ones that hap them before somebody 740 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: crossed over. A lot of people's experiences happened before they 741 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: actually get to the light. A lot of people's experience 742 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: will They'll they'll be like, okay, they're in surgery, or 743 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: they get hit by a car accidentally happens, and they 744 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: find themselves floating about their bodies and it's a very pleasant, 745 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: very exhilarating experience. And then all of a sudden they 746 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: get taken up into the light, and then they see 747 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: family members or friends or animals, and they will say 748 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: do you want to leave or do you want to stay? 749 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: Or oftentimes you'll hear them say that I was told 750 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,720 Speaker 1: I had to come back. And those are the ones 751 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: that I've always noticed that seemed to be similar with 752 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 1: my experience. I bypassed that light altogether, and I bypassed 753 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: the tunnel altogether. It was just on the other side. 754 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: And maybe that was the post happens that I could 755 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 1: actually tell people, here's what I saw on the other side. 756 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll give you some more hope that everything is 757 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: going to be okay ultimately. But to answer your question, 758 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: it does seem like there are similarities, and then when 759 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: people cross over, there are differences. And I don't know 760 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: how to explain that. I didn't really see all that 761 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: much of it in terms of being able to explain 762 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: why any world thinks that were different. Well, that's okay. Gosh, 763 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: if you ask anybody what it's like coming to planet Earth, 764 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: depending on where you live, what family you're in, what 765 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: culture you're in, what religion you belong to, people will 766 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: tell different stories. But there's a lot of similarities. And 767 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: so there seemed to be a lot of similarities with 768 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,479 Speaker 1: the Life Review, these halls of knowledge, your loved ones 769 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: being there, your animals being there, and I don't know 770 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with Anita more Johnny's experience, Oh yeah, 771 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: you'd love that. She has a book called Dying to 772 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: Be Me. She had stage four cancer of some sort 773 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: that had just totally taken over her body. She was 774 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: given last rites it was over for her, and she 775 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,439 Speaker 1: was recently engaged to be married, and in her near 776 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: death experience, she was brought to see another reality and 777 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: the deal was there was a deal that she could 778 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: come back and be he old, but in exchange, she's 779 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: got to tell people same thing, we don't die. There's 780 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: a this much bigger purpose. There's so much more going on. 781 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: I listened to her audio book and it's just one 782 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: of the most fantastic books I've ever heard. She ended 783 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: up opening her eyes and within a couple of weeks 784 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: the cancer everything reversed, And she's one of those documented miracles, 785 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: because it's all in the books that there's no way 786 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: people turn around like this health wise, but she did. 787 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: And in exchange, she guess what she does for a living, 788 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: she is helping mankind believe that there's a bigger picture. 789 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: Once there's this belief in the afterlife. It is my focus, 790 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: my passion that one it helps people who are grieving, 791 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: But in the other hand, it's like, if we don't die, 792 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: our life has to be for a purpose. Could you 793 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: just kind of touch upon how you think your life 794 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: is different now versus if you had been that twenty 795 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: one year old that had never had a near death experience, 796 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: do you think you live a richer kind of life? 797 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: Before I had the experience, I had always believed that 798 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: there was something more. I had had some really unique 799 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 1: experiences when I was a little kid about astral projection, 800 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: astrol flying around things like that when I was when 801 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,800 Speaker 1: I was little, So I always believe that there was something, 802 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: but I just didn't know what it was. And I 803 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: think if I didn't have the experience that I had, 804 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: I would be much more focused on material things, judging 805 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: my value or my worth by what had actually accomplished, 806 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: rather than looking at my life and realizing that everybody 807 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: is here to try to learn and to try to grow, 808 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: and then we're all here to try to help each other. 809 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: I think if I didn't have the experience that I 810 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: had with this near death experience, I would be much 811 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: more materialistic and looking at myself as my accomplishments or 812 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: by what I have what I've done, instead of who 813 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: I have helped. Because the bottom line is when we 814 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: do our life reviews, really what matters is who did 815 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: you love, Who did you help, who did you care for? 816 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: Did you make a difference with your life? Nobody ever 817 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: asks how much money did you make? Did you have 818 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,919 Speaker 1: a large house? Was your house five thousand square feet 819 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: or was it fifteen thousand square feet? And yeah, exactly. 820 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: Things like that are absolutely so irrelevant to what spiritual 821 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: growth is. But again, it's hard to be here. From 822 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: what I got, I got the impression that earth was 823 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: one of the hardest places to be among all the 824 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 1: other types of planets that are out there. And I 825 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: would say that in my experience that's but that's very true. 826 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: People have all kinds of things happen here. You lose children, 827 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: you lose a spouse, you get some kind of disease 828 00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: and pain suffering, yes, yes, and all of that that 829 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: goes on all over the world. To make us reach 830 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: out and try to help others and try to make 831 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: their lives better, because that's what's important. I know what 832 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: you mean. If these stories and these interviews can touch 833 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: one person that has had a loved one crossover, we'll 834 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: use that expression and it can bring just a little 835 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: bit of lightness to their day and a little bit 836 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: of faith. It's about I just want you to visualize 837 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: this place because our loved ones are there too, and 838 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: with the excitement, they'll have to greet us. So it's 839 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: called Rainbow Bridge, and it's one of these anonymous writers. 840 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. 841 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: When an animal dies that has been especially close to 842 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: someone here, that pet goes to the Rainbow Bridge. There 843 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 1: are meadows and hills for all of our special friends 844 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: so that they can run and play together. There is 845 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: plenty of food, water, and sunshine, and our friends are 846 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill 847 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 1: and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who 848 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,720 Speaker 1: were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, 849 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: just as we remember them in our dreams of days 850 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: and time's gone by. The animals are happy and content, 851 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: except for one thing. They each miss someone very special 852 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: to them who had to be left behind. They all 853 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: run and play together, but the day comes when suddenly 854 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 1: one stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes 855 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: are intent, his eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to 856 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: run from the group, flying over the green grass, his 857 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted. 858 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: And when you and your special friend finally meet, you 859 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. 860 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: The happy kisses rain upon your face. Your hands again 861 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: caress the beloved head, and you look once more into 862 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from 863 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: your life, but never absent from your heart. Then you 864 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: cross the rainbow bridge together. Wow, that's absolutely beautiful. I've 865 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: ever heard that before, but it's absolutely beautiful. Yeah, your 866 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,720 Speaker 1: description just reminded me of that. I had a great 867 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: reading with a medium once and she brought through my 868 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: grandmother and she says, your grandmother wants you to know 869 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: she's with the kiddies. Well, I had two cats, million Ossi, 870 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: and she used to call them the kiddies and I 871 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: thought that's great. And this medium says, and now she's singing, 872 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm just wild about Harry. She says, does that mean 873 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: anything to you? And I said, Harry is my new cat. 874 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: But it was one of those things where like I 875 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 1: really get that she's watching over them. I'll see Grammy again, 876 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: I'll see the kiddies again, you know, just we all will, 877 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: and so you're your experience. It's just made it alive 878 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: for me. It's hard when we miss people, and grief 879 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: is I think the worst pain we can feel. But 880 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: if we can sit tight and know that, you know, 881 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 1: from their perspective, it's a blink of an eye, will 882 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: be together again. And if we can live our lives 883 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: the best as we can before we go on our journey, 884 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: that that's what it's about, exactly, That's exactly what it's 885 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 1: about because we have to review it all. Wow, John, 886 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: thank you do you have anything else you'd like to share. 887 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 1: The last thing I would say was that is as 888 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 1: hard as this life can be sometimes and is I 889 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: don't know if I should say brutal, But with all 890 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: the things that can happen that can happen to people 891 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,280 Speaker 1: in life, there's a reason for all of it. Sometime 892 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: will be our time to go home again, and we 893 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: don't know when that's going to be, but every one 894 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: of us has that as our goal is to finish 895 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: and go home, and no matter how much pain or 896 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: suffering somebody is going to right now, it's going to 897 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: end when it's our time to go home. And we 898 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 1: just don't know when that will be. It could be tomorrow, 899 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: it could be in a couple of years, or it 900 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: could be fifty years. But at some point that pain 901 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: is going to stop. When we cross over and ask 902 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: for your loved ones to help and talk out verbally 903 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: to them asking them for help, and also not just them, 904 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: but also your guide. We have guides that help us 905 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: and help us stand our path, and we just stay 906 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: in our path to try to love God and help 907 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: people and then do the best we can that will 908 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: have a successful life. When we cross over. Thank you well, 909 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sander for having me on the show. I 910 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: had such a wonderful time and I so enjoyed talking 911 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: with you. Help me too me too? Is there a 912 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: way or that people can get in touch with you Facebook? 913 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm under John J. Davis. Thank you once again to 914 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 1: John J. Davis, and almost certainly be talking more about 915 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: near death experiences in upcoming episodes, but until then, I 916 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: wholeheartedly recommend you check out I Ann's dot org. That's 917 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: the letters I A N D S dot org. I 918 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: also wreck amend that you read or listen to the 919 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: audiobook of Anita Moore Johnnies Dying to Be Me. There's 920 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: also a program she delivers on the Shift Network and 921 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 1: you can find out more at Shift Anita dot com. 922 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. I'm Sandra Champlain and you've been 923 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 1: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart 924 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. And if 925 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, wait 926 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,240 Speaker 1: until you hear the next one. Thank you for listening 927 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a 928 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 1: M Paranormal podcast Network.