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Speaker 1: I am all in, Kiss you, I am all in

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Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast Everybody, Scott Patterson,

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Speaker 1: I am all in podcast one eleven productions, I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be talking with William, the laundry

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Speaker 1: guy portrayed by Peter Klausner. Uh, let me tell you

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Peter. He portrayed William for two

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Speaker 1: episodes uh season four episode five, The Fundamental Things Apply,

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Speaker 1: and the last episode was season four episode eleven, So

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Speaker 1: Short but Sweet, Tenure at Gilmore and the Clamor and

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Speaker 1: the Clanger. His bio was born in Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 1: As an actor and a writer known for Gilmore Girls, Amigo,

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Speaker 1: Undead in Six Degrees of Everything in two haus in fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and now he is an attorney dealing with class action

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Speaker 1: lawsuits against Big Pharma and Little Farma. Peter, welcome, thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on. Take us back to two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four and tell us how you got the role of William. Sure,

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Speaker 1: so it actually goes back to two thousand and three. Um,

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Speaker 1: I had just graduated from college. I was twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't even have an agent at that time.

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Speaker 1: I had been a theater student at USC but I

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Speaker 1: had a manager and UM. Towards the end of the summer,

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Speaker 1: she let me know I had an audition or the

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Speaker 1: show The Gilmore Girls, which up to that point I

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Speaker 1: had never seen. UM. So I started asking around with friends.

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Speaker 1: I said, what what kind of show is this? UM?

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Speaker 1: Is it any good? And I was told, well, the

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Speaker 1: the show, so when you go to the audition, show

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Speaker 1: them that you can talk fast. And so I I

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Speaker 1: looked into it. UM. I saw that Edward Herman was

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Speaker 1: for the audition and it was interesting because UM as I,

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Speaker 1: as I later found out, I think somebody showed me

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Speaker 1: an article and it was right while this was going on.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this was the season that I was

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Speaker 1: Amy had been quoted saying, well, now that she's left

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Speaker 1: going to parade you know, every young man in town

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Speaker 1: There was thirty of us, um and every everybody insecure,

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Speaker 1: everybody uh, you know, staring each other down. And I

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Speaker 1: other producers, and then I I got the gig and

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Speaker 1: was still twenty one at this point. Showed up to

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Speaker 1: remember about being on set? I mean I was I

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Speaker 1: And that wasn't much that that that was also filmed

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Speaker 1: So your scenes with Alexis, and we have people writing

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Speaker 1: your scenes with Alexis in episode eleven, from the argument

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Speaker 1: I definitely watched it when it came out. I watched,

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Speaker 1: Um But as for watching in preparation for this podcast,

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Speaker 1: you know, I really wanted to. But I I I'm

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Speaker 1: watching myself after the fact. Uh it is. I find

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Speaker 1: You just? What's your favorite Gilmore Girls character? I would

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Speaker 1: all right. Peter, Thank you, Peter Klausner. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: Uh fascinating, insightful and surprising, and thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Be well, my friend, and hopefully we'll talk to you

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