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Speaker 2: about a serial burglar known as Snake. This is a

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Speaker 2: guy that out in Riverside County has admitted to fifty

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Speaker 2: he's free. His name is Christopher Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson,

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Speaker 2: thirty to the Riverside County District Attorney, Mike Hestren about.

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Speaker 1: This outrageous story. And of course the people that were robbed,

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Speaker 1: these businesses are really hurting from this. He does have

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Speaker 1: what if he doesn't go. They're obviously not prosecuting the

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Speaker 2: The three nons non serious, non violent, non sex offender.

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Speaker 1: These are the ones that get the lightest treatment of all. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's non treatment, that's a non sentence. If you divide

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Speaker 1: fifty four counts into roughly two hundred and ten days served,

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Speaker 1: he's getting four days every time he stole something makes

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Speaker 1: it worth it for Yeah, he'll be right back at

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Speaker 1: this monitor and no monitor, he'll cut an office. So

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Speaker 1: the stuff, the stuff he steals, he can sell and

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Speaker 1: he has to plead many many times he steals and

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Speaker 2: Known as the snake burglar because he slithers to try

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Speaker 1: And he's not a teenager who's made a mistake. He's

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Speaker 1: My own gold exchange in Riverside, he stole fifteen thousand

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Speaker 1: They've got all their new laws and numbers and propositions

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Speaker 2: This is how they keep the prison population low. We

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Speaker 1: Really up this. Guys like this are free. Let's play

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get a little more information from this. From

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Speaker 3: Burglar slivering like a snake after breaking into dozens of

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Speaker 3: Inside a Riverside courtroom, Jackson pleaded guilty to fifty four

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Speaker 3: Brian Peron's Riverside sandwich shop to Lea's Grinders is one

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Speaker 4: What in this sentence being ordered today will stop this

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Speaker 3: Jackson was sentenced to seven months in jail, but the

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Speaker 3: a good time credit for being in custody since April,

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow, he'll have to check in with a probation officer

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Speaker 3: Berry with the DA's office says it was the best

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Speaker 5: These were all non violent felonies, so he is ineligible

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Speaker 3: As for Pern, who lost about twenty five hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: because of the break in, well, he's hoping that's something

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Speaker 4: Somebody has to start paying attention. The people have to

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Speaker 3: And as part of that Sentencey Jackson cannot come within

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Speaker 3: As we are reporting this information today, Riverside Police tell

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, who saw what happened in this Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: why do they cover up the name of the judge

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Speaker 1: Their hands are tied, their hands are not tied. Those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the county jails are still really croded, but the

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Speaker 1: Just throw them back in there, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: some things still have that excuse that the county jails

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Speaker 1: This can be solved very quickly. You build whatever jail

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Speaker 1: the whole the whole criminal procedure was fake yesterday because

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Speaker 1: But well, he's required to this and required to that.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna do it, and you're not gonna go

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Speaker 7: To get him?

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Speaker 1: He can relocate to another county and go on his

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Speaker 1: burglary spree there. All right, We're gonna talk to You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna go arrest him. The Riverside County DA Mike

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Speaker 1: hester will be our guest after the News at one

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Speaker 2: We'll be talking to the Riverside County District Attorney, Mike

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Speaker 2: Hestron after the News at one thirty about this snake

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Speaker 2: burglar that's his nickname, a serial of burglar who admitted

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Speaker 1: Guess what I got in the mail today? I got

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Speaker 1: a letter from Joe Biden. Really weird too. He wants

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Speaker 1: Oh, maga, maga. Extremists are lining up to take back

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Speaker 1: And this makes the ones who hyperventilate. These are the

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Speaker 1: Of course, the theme mostly in this story is that

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Speaker 1: Riverside County District Attorney Mike Hestre to talk about this

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Speaker 1: serial burglar known as Snake because he likes to roll

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Speaker 1: One of our big.

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Speaker 2: Stories today concerns this serial burglar known as the Snake

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: He ripped off fifty four businesses in Riverside and Marino

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has to wear an ankle monitor for twelve years,

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Speaker 1: Do you think in the year twenty thirty five he

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Speaker 6: I'm good. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 7: I know you know that this is a complete joke.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the Jerry Brown monstrosity. So he committed seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: And so it imagine the people that you had to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, John wants to know the judge. The

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Speaker 6: else the judge can do. The judge can't change the law.

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Speaker 6: So the judge gave him, you know, the maximum that

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Speaker 6: he could give him. You know, there's nothing. In other words,

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Speaker 6: the judge could give him a ten year sentence for

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Speaker 6: our local jail. He could say, okay, you're you're going

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Speaker 6: in for ten years. He's still only going to do

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Speaker 6: two or three days.

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Speaker 1: They destroyed the sentencing system for felony burglaries.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's in ruins now.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't exist, doesn't exist, doesn't exist. And here's the

447
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Speaker 6: worst thing about it. I've heard the governor say this.

448
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Speaker 6: Governor says, well, you know, these das they don't use

449
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Speaker 6: all the laws or they don't charge them with all

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Speaker 6: the laws that they can. And you know he'll say

451
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Speaker 6: things like, well, there's plenty of laws on the books. Well,

452
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Speaker 6: that's true, there's plenty of laws on the books. That's

453
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Speaker 6: not the issue. The issue is you destroyed the sentence

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Speaker 6: for those laws. And so you know he's being very

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Speaker 6: deceptive when he says things like that, Yeah, well.

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Speaker 7: That's what he does.

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Speaker 1: Twelve years of ankle monitor. How did that come about?

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Speaker 6: Well, it was just, you know, that's the judge's effort

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Speaker 6: to try to keep some effort, some control in this guy.

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Speaker 6: But as you said in your introduction, I'm not super

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Speaker 6: hopeful that this guy's going to have an ankle monitor

462
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Speaker 6: on a decade from now. I just don't think that's

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Speaker 6: going to happen.

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Speaker 1: How many of other guys like him do you have

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Speaker 1: running around in Riverside County?

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Speaker 6: Well, quite a bit. I mean a month, a month

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Speaker 6: and a half or so ago, I did a press

468
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Speaker 6: conference here with the DA of Toularry County, Tim Ward,

469
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Speaker 6: because we had a guy that was like this. He

470
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Speaker 6: was it was not this many, not seventy seven, but

471
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Speaker 6: it was dozens and dozens of felonies across two counties,

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Speaker 6: wreaking havoc on his community on here in Riverside, and

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Speaker 6: we can't do anything, you know. So he ended up

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Speaker 6: getting up to Tularry County where he's doing a few

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Speaker 6: months so far in custody. But it's not sufficient. We've

476
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Speaker 6: got to be able to send repeat offenders.

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Speaker 1: How much money do you think a guy like Christopher

478
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Speaker 1: Jackson makes that he profits from because you catch him

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Speaker 1: on a fraction of the crimes, right, you've got seventy

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Speaker 1: seven on the record. I'm sure he's committed many times more.

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Speaker 1: That he's stealing thousands of dollars a pop for some

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Speaker 1: of these break ins. That's why it's a felony and

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Speaker 1: not a misdemean right. So he must be doing really

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Speaker 1: well financially.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's doing well enough to to to support a

486
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Speaker 6: drug habit. You know, he's doing well enough to what

487
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Speaker 6: he doesn't have anything. He spends whatever he gets. It's

488
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Speaker 6: not like he's you know, putting this money in that

489
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Speaker 6: he's stealing into the bank or right, right.

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Speaker 1: But he's got a good income coming in and he

491
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Speaker 1: can enjoy all the drugs. This is going to lead

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Speaker 1: people just not want to report it, Mike and just

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Speaker 1: give up. I mean because honestly, if this is the result,

494
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Speaker 1: what's the point.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is what's happening across our state. Right. So

496
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Speaker 6: this is some of the big retail stores now, I

497
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Speaker 6: mean you see going going to any home depot or target.

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Speaker 6: I mean you got half the products are you know

499
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Speaker 6: have to be chained up right, and you know, so

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Speaker 6: this is there's there's and there's no consequence anymore for theft,

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Speaker 6: and so a lot of these owners. Yeah, but that's.

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Speaker 1: Part of the plan because if you're not reported, there's

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Speaker 1: no big crime spike in crime.

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Speaker 7: And they could say, hey.

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Speaker 1: Look are numbers are down. That's right, numbers are down.

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Speaker 1: There you don't see all this crime that they were

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Speaker 1: warning about.

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Speaker 2: Because the more the more category does this guy fit

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Speaker 2: under mike because he's not going to state prison, So

510
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Speaker 2: how does that work in terms of the crime statistics.

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Speaker 1: He's only getting a county jail time, right.

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Speaker 6: Just well, yeah, no, here's the real kicker on that.

513
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Speaker 6: So on this they'll say, well he's you know, he

514
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Speaker 6: got sentenced to prison. They still call it prison under

515
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Speaker 6: the under the rules, so his prison time is served

516
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Speaker 6: actually in the local jail. So that's one of the

517
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Speaker 6: little tricks under AB one or nine. And so it

518
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Speaker 6: wasn't that long ago it was it was it might

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Speaker 6: have been the Attorney General that said, well, you know

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Speaker 6: there's there's still you can still send him to prison. Sure,

521
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Speaker 6: but we have to do their prison time in the

522
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Speaker 6: local jail, and the local jails full, so it amounts

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Speaker 6: to zero right right, it's all this semantics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do that to give an answer to

525
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Speaker 1: a reporter, and the reporters are the too stupid or

526
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Speaker 1: two partisan to challenge him on it and really do

527
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Speaker 1: an expose on what's happening. But this was the design

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Speaker 1: going back to twenty eleven. And I'm sure they they

529
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Speaker 1: had this plotted out well before twenty eleven, and they

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Speaker 1: were eventually, over time going to destroy our justice system.

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Speaker 2: And then they come back and tell us recidivism is down, right,

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Speaker 2: They tell us that a guy like this is running around.

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Speaker 6: I've been I've been to conferences, statewide conferences where you

534
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Speaker 6: have people tell me, right to my faith face, with

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Speaker 6: a straight face, that theft is way down. And you know,

536
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Speaker 6: anyone with half a brain can see look around and

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Speaker 6: say it's it's the way, It's way down.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So how not that you have answers to this?

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Speaker 1: But we have to fight an incredible propaganda machine when

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Speaker 1: you have so many public officials lying to the public,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't take long for the public to believe it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true, but the public has to understand and look,

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Speaker 6: you know, see what's happening to their community with their

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Speaker 6: own eyes. You know, go into any retail store, see

545
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Speaker 6: what's happening and let let the politicians and Sacramento know

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Speaker 6: that the laws are supposed to work for the regular

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Speaker 6: common folks. It's supposed to help us law abiding people.

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Speaker 6: But instead what they do is they think their job

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Speaker 6: is to protect criminals. And that's that's that's not going

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Speaker 6: to change until the people let them know, in knowing

551
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Speaker 6: certain terms, that they're not going to take it anymore.

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Speaker 6: When that happens, I don't know, but all right, that's

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Speaker 6: what has to happen.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you spending some time with us today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Riverside County District Attorney Mike Hestron on this serial burglar

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Speaker 1: who've got a very short prison sentence of jail sentence

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Speaker 1: for what was it now, seventy seven felony. That seventy

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Speaker 1: seven felonies he got like just days, weeks, months more.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, Johnny KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 8: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 8: AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, lot to come.

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Speaker 2: We'll be talking to how how are Jarvis Taxpayers Associations?

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Speaker 2: John Coopaul after the News at two o'clock because our

567
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Speaker 2: early voter guide for twenty twenty four and it comes

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Speaker 2: to ballot measures.

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Speaker 1: Is no, no, no, no no, because.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of borrowing for nonsense. The

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Speaker 2: state is about to unleash so much many bond measures

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Speaker 2: it'll just spin your head. We'll talk about that after

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Speaker 2: two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Well, the answer, Deborah marked perhaps to get people to

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Speaker 1: stop eating red meat is to unleash a lone star tick.

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Speaker 2: On John co Belt. I'm not kidding. I think we've

577
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: talked about this before. Alpha gal syndrome, or known as AGS,

578
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Speaker 2: which requires a diagnostic test, has been increasing in numbers

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Speaker 2: in the United States. If you are bitten by a tick,

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Speaker 2: particularly they say the lone Star tick, there can actually

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Speaker 2: be a reaction in your body the next time you

582
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Speaker 2: eat red meat, and a lot of people get pain,

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Speaker 2: abdominal pain, diarrhea, nausea, and vomiting because they have a

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Speaker 2: substance that they Alpha gal is a sugar molecule found

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Speaker 2: in most mammals, cows, lambs, and pigs. It's also found

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Speaker 2: in the saliva of ticks. We don't don't produce it,

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Speaker 2: so it's feign to our body when tick saliva goes

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Speaker 2: through a person's skin and transmits alpha gal. It can

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Speaker 2: be an inflammation trigger, and the inflammation is when you

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Speaker 2: eat red meat. Alpha gal can be found in beef, pork, lamb, rabbit,

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Speaker 2: deer meat, as well as other products. And they are

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Speaker 2: finding more and more people who either knew or didn't

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Speaker 2: know they got a tick bite, and then they're eating

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Speaker 2: red meat.

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Speaker 1: Then they're getting sick. John, you don't want to chance it.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think you bring a ticket and put it

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Speaker 1: on his chair. Yeah, you would do that, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 1: A lone star tick? I'm sure you can get them online. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me google Amazon. Do you have lone stars? You're

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Speaker 1: one of these vegan fat egs. You're gonna start poisoning people.

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Speaker 1: So we're to send you.

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Speaker 7: A huge box.

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Speaker 2: You can unleash it all over the station and everybody

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Speaker 2: will be vegetarian or vegan because they don't want to

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Speaker 2: get sick.

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Speaker 7: So the tick, I'm trying to understand how this works.

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Speaker 1: What is it? The tick has something in it's saliva.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's a sugar mall.

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Speaker 2: And if it gets it into your system and your

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Speaker 2: system has not had or does not produce anything like

611
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Speaker 2: that you get inflammation, right, and then the response, I

612
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Speaker 2: guess is that it reacts to red meat. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why it doesn't react to other things, but it

614
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Speaker 2: says it's mostly coming from interesting red meat, and that

615
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Speaker 2: kicks it into action.

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Speaker 1: And I start vomiting and having diarrhea and having diarrhea.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the people in this story said they has given

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Speaker 2: up bacon and hamburgers, but they decided, well.

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Speaker 1: Life Star sounds like it's in Texas, doesn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does. Well. I think this is I think this

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Speaker 1: is for life. I'm talking why no, no, come on,

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Speaker 1: just can't base. I would not ever have any more

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Speaker 1: red meat after hearing this story. I am not going

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Speaker 1: to be in the same room with you anymore because

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Speaker 1: you'll leave a tick on my seat and it'll bite

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Speaker 1: me in the rear. Oh god. Uh. They call it

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Speaker 1: the alpha gal allergy, and some people only get what

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Speaker 1: they called g I symptoms castro and testinal But that

629
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Speaker 1: could be enough to make you a little uncomfortable with

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Speaker 1: I know how weird too, that it's just from eating.

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Speaker 1: There must there must be a substance in red meat

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Speaker 1: that reacts with that.

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Speaker 2: You would think there would be some sort of medicine

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Speaker 2: or lone star just like the state of Texas, the

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Speaker 2: lone star state.

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Speaker 1: Right, you don't hear anything like this about people.

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Speaker 2: I think other ticks can do it. But they're finding

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Speaker 2: a lot of the people. But the syndrome were bitten

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Speaker 2: by a lone star tick, which is in.

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Speaker 1: Forested areas, much more common in the southern United States.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they're spreading northward.

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Speaker 2: This could be it, Debra mark your chance to get

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Speaker 2: us all off the red meat?

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Speaker 7: Can I be so evil?

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Speaker 1: You know some activist groups are going to do that though,

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Speaker 1: They're going to like walk into a state house steakhouses

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Speaker 1: start throwing they will. Yeah, actually that wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe one or two.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll we come back the borrowing binge that

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Speaker 2: may be on your voter ballot next year. The state

651
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Speaker 2: wants to put all sorts of bond measures out there

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Speaker 2: if you to vote on We'll talk to John Kupol

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Speaker 2: for Howard Jarvis Taxpa's Association. Johny nkfi A.

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