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Speaker 1: Welcome to the ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit Junior,

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Speaker 1: featuring Jaguar senior writer John Osier and executive producer Dave

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Speaker 1: to Candice, It's our first chance to start to get

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Speaker 1: to know the new Jaguars coaching staff. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people listening will be very familiar with the

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Speaker 1: name of the person that we're talking to. Hopefully we'll

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Speaker 1: get a chance to get to know that person a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm excited about it. Jaguars Assistant head coach

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Speaker 1: Linebackers Charlie Strong. I hope I got the title right.

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Speaker 1: Are you that worried about the title at this point? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this title, Johnny. I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: really excited about being here, you know, having a chance

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Speaker 1: to reunite with Coach Meyer again. You know we both

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Speaker 1: have since our Florida days. We both have went on

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Speaker 1: different journeys and you know he is is uh you know,

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Speaker 1: leaving Aaron and going to uh, you know, ended up

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and then me having a chance to

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Speaker 1: go to Louisville, to Texas to South Florida and now

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Speaker 1: we're back in Jacksonville. There's so much they want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about. But I think I think the

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Speaker 1: relationship with Urban is the most fascinating to me. Um,

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Speaker 1: is that the biggest reason that you're here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, all right, but the chance to do

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Speaker 1: that again obviously was an appeal. Well, I tell you,

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Speaker 1: our relationship started back at Notre Dame. I was at

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Speaker 1: the Universital of Notre Dame working for Lou Hotes, and

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Speaker 1: then Urban came on as an assistant coach and we

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Speaker 1: um actually he stayed with me, live with me for

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Speaker 1: about a month or two till his house was completed,

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Speaker 1: and then he ended up going to a boat. I

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Speaker 1: ended up leaving to go to South Carolina as a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator with coach Hotes. He ended up going to

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Speaker 1: Bowling Green, then the Utah and then the Florida. So

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Speaker 1: when he came back to Florida, I was already there

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Speaker 1: with Run's Uck and then uh, you know, we got

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Speaker 1: let go and then Urban came in and I was

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Speaker 1: one of the coaches that he retained, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success at the University of Florida.

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Speaker 1: But just our relationship, you know, we built it over

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Speaker 1: the years and uh, just having a chance to come

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Speaker 1: back and work with him again, was you know, very appealing.

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like sometimes you you just know

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Speaker 1: coaches and you've been in this professional long time, and

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Speaker 1: some guys just have a way of of how they win,

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Speaker 1: how they build programs, and I just wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a part of it. What is it about you that clicked?

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Speaker 1: Are you like minded? Is it opposite the tract or

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Speaker 1: how would you say here? Well, I think it's more

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Speaker 1: of opposite of tracks because I I'm more outgoing than

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Speaker 1: he has. And but um, you know, you you think

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Speaker 1: and you kind of think and you go down the

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Speaker 1: same path because you had the same training where you know,

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Speaker 1: like where we started at and so you know the

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Speaker 1: training is is the same. But you know, we're all

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we all want to win,

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Speaker 1: and we all want to build programs. We all want

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Speaker 1: to impact young people, and we just want to want

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Speaker 1: everything to to uh happen where you know their success

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Speaker 1: and you look at a program and you want to

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Speaker 1: to leave your imprint on that program. Mentioned holds you

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Speaker 1: worked under Spurrier, you worked under Meyer. That's starting to

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Speaker 1: be like Rushmore type stuff. How big of an influence? Uh?

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Speaker 1: How special has resume. I guess if you will just

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Speaker 1: talk about their influence on you, Well, I tell you

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Speaker 1: my journey. I've had an amazing journey and this profession

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Speaker 1: has been really good to me because you know, I

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Speaker 1: started really with Charlie Pale as a g a back

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Speaker 1: just where I have so many friends because you know,

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Speaker 1: start it started, Brett Wigman has just started building from there.

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Speaker 1: But I had I you know, in this profession, I've

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Speaker 1: will go down as one of the best coaches to

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Speaker 1: he knows what he is, a process, he knows what

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Speaker 1: of every day's acting a question what we're gonna know

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Speaker 1: even though it's so and and know and being with

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Speaker 1: Coach Spurrier, always say this about Coach Spurrier, he changed

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Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference, it was three yards in the cloud

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Speaker 1: And then coach came in and he started spreading people

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Speaker 1: first time, you know, people always talk about, you know, matchups, matchup.

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Speaker 1: the mismatch with the linebacker. But he changed college football.

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Speaker 1: And it was just happened. A chance to just work

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Speaker 1: nobody was doing that at that point. Getting back to

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Speaker 1: Take me inside Urban a little bit in terms of

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Speaker 1: everybody knows he's been successful. Why the unbelievable success and

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Speaker 1: Is there a trait that gives him that? You know,

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Speaker 1: what Urban does is that he he builds confidence within

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Speaker 1: he is not and he's not selling you. It's just

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Speaker 1: there's a standard here and guys, this is our standard

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Speaker 1: about the culture. You know, it's relentless effort is you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's having a competitive excellent aboutsha and

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Speaker 1: then where you own it. Where he builds it within

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Speaker 1: one voice. It's one message. You know, everybody's not off

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, it's where hey, the defensive line

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Speaker 1: what's built already within the culture. And when he's it's

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Speaker 1: and he gets his coaches to accept what we have. Now, guys,

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Speaker 1: his motto is that you know, there's greatness and everyone

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Speaker 1: you know, don't tell me that a guy can't do it.

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Speaker 1: A uh, how good were you? That's pretty good. I

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Speaker 1: was a center fielder, so I love baseball. Probably should

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Speaker 1: have stuck with her final question, person in your life

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Speaker 1: who you wouldn't be here without. I had an uncle

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Speaker 1: service station. He was actually probably if I can remember,

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Speaker 1: he was the only black. He was the only black

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Speaker 1: home business in our time. And I worked for him,

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Speaker 1: and he just taught me so much about I assume

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Speaker 1: and how to appreciate everything that you have, so not

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Speaker 1: really sports, but life, just because he would. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I only even know if he ever cared about play

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Speaker 1: the sport, because I would go to work on Saturdays

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Speaker 1: at like six o'clock in the morning. He would bring

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Speaker 1: me home just seven o'clock to night. So so pumping

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Speaker 1: up gas Washington Cars, Charlie, I can't thank you enough

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Speaker 1: for joining us during what I know is a very

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Speaker 1: busy time and giving enough fans a chance to get

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Speaker 1: to know you a little bit. I look forward to

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Speaker 1: working with you and thank you for being on the

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Speaker 1: ozone podcast. All right, thank you and thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me all. I appreciate you, Charlie