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We got 22 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: to run it by our PR team to see if 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: it's okay. 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: Uh, I'm Jack mcmalland that's arm lighton And we got 25 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: another Sunday edition of the Just Baseball Show. 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about the way we 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: use that same violin song on TikTok and and that's 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 5: that's a peak decision. It works, but I don't know, 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. We'll see, but I'm down for a 30 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: little vibe change here for for the Sundays. And we 31 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 5: got some sticky topics today. Oh and some other things 32 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 5: to talk about as well. 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, that is a peak decision with the violin 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: on every TikTok, and you know, it's it's a good 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: choice for now. 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: I think it's got to change soon. 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: We can't be one of those like one instrumental TikTok pages. 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: I just can't believe we talk about TikTok so much. 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 5: Me neither. 40 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: I thought I thought baseball, right, I thought baseball was 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: a Twitter media, But I. 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 5: Also thought the kids don't like baseball. But TikTok dominated 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: by sixteen to twenty five year olds. There's forty thousand 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: people in there that care about us talking about this stuff, 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 5: So maybe maybe the young people do like baseball. 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: The kids like baseball, and the kids might be weaning 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: off of baseball right now with what's going on. I 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: think it's funny because last week we kind of sort 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 4: of beat Sports Illustrated the punch and s I had 50 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: a fantastic article earlier this week. It was Stephanie Epstein 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: and one more person who I'm forgetting their name, but 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: they kind of combined for this watershed article about the 53 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: sticky substances with pitchers, and there were some really interesting 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: quotes in there. Yes, there was some anonymity in there 55 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: from you know, executives and managers and relievers, but you 56 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: also had hitters come out, and you know, Charlie Blackman 57 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: had some very interesting quotes in there. Adam Duvall had 58 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: some very interesting quotes. 59 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: In there, you know. 60 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: I it's funny because last week when we had this conversation, 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: I was still about fifty five forty five on the 62 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: side of hitters just need to get a lot better. 63 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: Hitters need to figure it out. 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: Now. 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: I did six days worth of reading and I am now, 66 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: you know, thirty seventy and the seventy percent being we 67 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: got to change something now. 68 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 5: So I didn't do it, but Sports Illustrated got the 69 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 5: job done. 70 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: I think. So I don't know do you work for. 71 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: U, S I, I don't but you know, I was 72 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: hoping I could convert you. But I'll take it how 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 5: I can get it. One thing I'll say is I 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 5: feel like Adam Duvall is the wrong guy to ask 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 5: about this stuff. He's gonna swing and miss no matter what. 76 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: You can put any no substance on the ball. I'm 77 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 5: covering the Marlins obviously, like for the Lockdown Marlins podcast 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 5: and that guy. I've never seen somebody that can get 79 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 5: so hot for a week and then so cold for 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 5: a week. So yes, the substances don't help. But Charlie 81 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 5: Blackman was the quote that that you know, really hit 82 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 5: me hard where I was like, Okay, you know this 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: guy has put up numbers. Cores are not cores. Who cares. 84 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 5: This guy has put up numbers for his entire career. 85 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: And you know, he didn't frame it as like this 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 5: is why I'm not doing as well now. It was 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: just like it has always been really hard, and it's 88 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: progressively gotten harder and hard, and this is why. And 89 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: I just the way he said it. You don't hear 90 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: Charlie Blackman talk about anything. I don't even know what 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 5: his voice sounds like, right, So you know that that 92 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 5: was something for me, I was like, if Charlie Blackman 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 5: speaking up, don't I don't even know what his voice 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 5: sounds like. 95 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And have you seen these rumors that Josh Donaldson 96 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: has this list that he's ready to kind of leak 97 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: out of. Yes, you know that's something where it's like, 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: same deal with Charlie Blackman. You don't even know what 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: Josh Donaldson's voice sounds like. 100 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: He is a very reserved guy, and. 101 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: The fact that he is this adamant about this kind 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 4: of shows you how big of a problem this is. 103 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: And Charlie Blackman, if you haven't read. 104 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: The article yet, pretty much said that the human eye, 105 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: the hitter's eye, has been trained to see a four 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: seam fastball and put a calculated guests into a swing 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: as to where that four seam fastball will end up. 108 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: Same with the two seam fastball, same of the sinker, 109 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: same with the cutter, same with the curveball. 110 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 5: HM. 111 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: And what he was saying now is with these substances, 112 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: it is defying what should. 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: Be humanly possible. 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: So these hitters who have put thousands of hours into 115 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: perfecting their craft of putting calculated guesses of swings on 116 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: pitches now need to purposefully try and swing elsewhere. They 117 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: have to try and miss the pitch because they know 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: it's gonna move in some ungodly manner, and that is 119 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: so stupid. 120 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 5: It's a great point, actually, because I forget what it 121 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 5: is exactly, but you know, like those optical illusions where 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 5: like the whatever like dot you're looking at, like your 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 5: brain sees it somewhere else, but it actually isn't going there, 124 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: but it's because your brain's predicting where it's gonna go. 125 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if you know exactly what I'm talking about, 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: but basically, our brain has an incredible ability to recognize 127 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 5: like patterns over the course of our lives, and sometimes 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 5: our eyes can trick us and like predict where the 129 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 5: thing's gonna go. So I feel like that with like 130 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: the baseball exactly what's happening. And the other really interesting 131 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 5: thing about it to me is that you know, you 132 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: have this offense problem and pictures are already really freaking good. 133 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: So I kind of like the idea of we're almost 134 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: gonna get a little bit of like a reset and 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: kind of see, okay, who is really standing out again? Now. 136 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: I know people were making a bunch about Garret Cole's 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: first start out there, the spin rates were down. I'm 138 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 5: sure he'll be fine, He's just gonna adjust a little 139 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: bit again. But uh, I'm really interested to see some 140 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 5: of these pictures. You know what the difference is now 141 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: that we have these these limitations, I guess to say, 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 5: which is just really normalcy. But yeah, it's gonna be 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 5: very interesting. You see the video, by the way, it 144 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: was an old video, but it was about four years old. 145 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: I had never seen it before, but it was a 146 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 5: ball was like bounced fout off and it stuck to 147 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 5: Yachti's chest. Protect you've never seen that before. I never 148 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 5: saw it. 149 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: It was a Cubs game, so I had seen that 150 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: in real time pretty much, and I remember that. I 151 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: was like, that's crazy, and the tweet resurface. The video 152 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: resurfaced in a tweet that said this should be patient 153 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: zero of the sticky ball issue, and I was like, 154 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: oh my god, how did this not click for anybody 155 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: in the time? 156 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, like, this ball is sticking to his chest? 157 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 158 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 5: It was crazy. 159 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: So Buster only with ESPN came out with another article 160 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: that kind of detailed what you can expect over the 161 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: next ten days to two weeks to be implemented, and 162 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 4: just kind of going back to you know, guys seeing 163 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: a lower spin rate with their fastball. Things like that 164 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: small sample size inconclusive until we get at least. 165 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: Six or seven starts in. 166 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: I think, so gart Cole has now made one start 167 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: since this article was released, and he sucked, to be honest, 168 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: So we will see what happens there. You know, there 169 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: are other guys that have been thrown around that rumor mill. 170 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: I mean, John Means is a guy who I want 171 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: to attribute yesterday's start to injury. But you know, everything's 172 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: going to be inconclusive. So as much as we want 173 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: to jump on people for a bad start, it is 174 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: purely coincidence until we get six or seven starts in, 175 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: in my opinion, and then we can formulate a very 176 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: early opinion, and once we get to mid to late August, 177 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: then we can actually kind of zero in on who 178 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: might have been the issue. 179 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: I agree with that for sure. You know, I'm always 180 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: a believer of like not jumping on the small sample sizes. 181 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 5: But what will be interesting that I think is a 182 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 5: fair thing to be able to come away with after 183 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 5: maybe two starts is just if it's outside the typical 184 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: range of spin rate, you know, difference that could be 185 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 5: something that it's like, Okay, you know this is worth 186 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 5: looking at. But you know, maybe he's just as effective 187 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 5: whatever pitcher with not as much of the elite spin. 188 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: But I'm very interested to see how this looks. But 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: another thing too, I know what we're gonna talk about 190 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 5: the big league enforcement, but what about the miners? You know, 191 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 5: this is where it's like, are there are they going 192 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 5: to go through all of this in the miners as well? 193 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: And are we going to have some like issues where 194 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 5: some prospects are really abusing it and doing really well 195 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 5: and now it's misguiding teams. It's miss like, I don't 196 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 5: even know how deep this can this can go. 197 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: In recent years, in recent decades, you've seen a lot 198 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: of minor league hitters get in trouble for ped usage, 199 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: and sometimes it has happened after they got to the show. 200 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: And this is one of my more controversial opinions. I guess, 201 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: if you're going to do it to get you there, 202 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: I totally understand the risk that you're taking. I absolutely do, 203 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: and honestly like, whatever can get you to the bigs, 204 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: do it. Because I've seen guys firsthand that are trying 205 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: to fund their wife and kids on a minor league salary, 206 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: and I promise you it's impossible. 207 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: Oh so if you have this. 208 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: Miracle potion to get you to the league and make 209 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: five hundred and fifty thousand dollars and hit arbitration, I'm 210 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: okay taking a fifty game suspension if it gets me 211 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: that three million dollar one year deal, right, Like. 212 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 5: I agree it it He's crazy to say, but I 213 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 5: I the one the ones that blow my mind is 214 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 5: like Robinson Canal, you know, like that, like you know, 215 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: screw you right, like that way you're making hundreds of millions. 216 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: You can't accept the fact that you're aging. Sorry, But 217 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 5: when it comes to those guys, yeah, Like would I 218 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: personally do it? I don't know. I can't put myself 219 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: in those shoes, but if i'm if, I need to 220 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: support my family, and I feel like I don't know 221 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 5: much about steroids or PDEs or whatever, but I don't 222 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 5: think they have like the negative effect that they had 223 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 5: in the nineties. No, hell, you know what I'm saying, 224 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 5: Like some of the stuff that's banned isn't even that bad, 225 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: Like isn't creates band yeah, or at least yeah. So 226 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 5: it's like, you know, things like that, like adderall. I 227 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 5: take adderall right, you know. So it's like, you know, 228 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 5: I just don't understand some of the things. It seems 229 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 5: like it's really extreme. So yeah, I totally get it. 230 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: I mean when we talk about and that's an entirely 231 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 5: another topic that I know you and I will dive 232 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: into is like the minor league salaries and just the 233 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 5: minor league way of life. Right now. I have several 234 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 5: friends living in terrible situations. They're troopers about it. They 235 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 5: don't really complain, but like, you know, I know people 236 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 5: that have it worse. But I have one friend that's 237 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: living on a farm, on a freaking farm. You know, 238 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: Like that's just if he was supporting a family. He's 239 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 5: our age, so he's fine. But like if you're supporting 240 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 5: a family and kids and whatever, it's like, oh, yeah, 241 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 5: come live on the farm. Yeah dude, I'm taking whatever 242 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 5: I got to take to get out of there. You know. 243 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 5: So I do get it. But going back to the 244 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 5: major leagues, and something that you know, definitely stood out 245 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 5: to both of us when we looked at this was 246 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: the pace of play. Because the first thing I see 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 5: is there's gonna be random checks, and I'm like, oh, 248 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: here we go random checks. You know this is going 249 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: to be a whole topic as well. And then he 250 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 5: has just like the random drug test, then you also 251 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 5: have checks that could be eight to ten times per game. 252 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: That is a lot of checks. And what do these 253 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: checks entail? Is it going to be like a pack 254 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: down like TSA style? Like how is this going to work? 255 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: And how long are the checks? And what's that? 256 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Like? 257 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: Did you what did you come away with from that? 258 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: Right? And under what timeline are you doing the checks? 259 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: Are you doing it? Buster only said, you know. 260 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: Between innings, right, Like with baseball with their pace of 261 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: play issue, it might be when a starter is coming 262 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: out of the game, then you check them in the 263 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: dugout or something. I feel like we're going to run 264 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: into these problems where umpires are going to approach the 265 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: mound and they're going to discover a foreign substance and 266 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: then you're going to have a manager rejected. 267 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: It's going to be the same kind of. 268 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: Timeframe that you saw with Mike Shilton, Giovanni Diegos with 269 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: Joe West in Chicago couple of weeks ago, which is 270 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: kind of what spurred this conversation forward and was the icing. 271 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: On the cake that ended up baking this story that 272 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: was released. 273 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of problems, and it 274 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: was a sport averaging I think just over three hours 275 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 4: in terms of game time. That's only gonna go up. 276 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: It's not like these eight to ten checks per game. 277 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: That's so many checks per game. These eight to ten 278 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: checks per game are not going to speed up the 279 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: process of baseball. It's only gonna slow it down and 280 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: you might lose viewers. And I don't know how we 281 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: move forward here. Do you have any idea, like how 282 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: we move forward with this? 283 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 5: I think I think you do a check every three 284 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 5: innings and it's three checks in the game and call 285 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 5: it there. But also, when you have relievers coming in, 286 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 5: that guy's only pitching for one inning, you're gonna check him. 287 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: He could slab that ball up and then he's out 288 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 5: of there, you know, So that's that that's a tough thing. 289 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 5: I think you do it every three innings, see how 290 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 5: it goes. Baseball players are clearly just kind of telling 291 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 5: on each other at this point, So if it's still 292 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 5: an issue, you go from there. But I think going 293 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: to the extreme and then trying to scale it back 294 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 5: is never the move, and that seems to be the 295 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 5: MLB way. You know, you remember the play at the 296 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 5: plate rules, how bad that was to try to get 297 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 5: rid of collisions at home and basically, if you were 298 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: like in the baseline, it didn't even matter if the 299 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 5: guy was just rounding third as a catcher. If you 300 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: were in the baseline, he was safe. I was at 301 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: that Marlins Reds game. I don't know if you remember 302 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: that where they called him safe on that throw home 303 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: from Stanton, and it was just like, where are we 304 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 5: going with this? This could be really bad, and they 305 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: fixed it, but it definitely affected a bunch of a 306 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: bunch of games. So I'm curious to see how they 307 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 5: how they manage it. But one other interesting point on it, 308 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 5: going back to kind of a full circle to what 309 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 5: you were saying about black men and the predictive eye 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: and in those things, what I think is interesting. I 311 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: think people have been really hard on umpires, but the 312 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: same goes for them. Right, these guys are supposed to 313 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: call balls and strikes on pitches that are now defying 314 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 5: any balls and strikes they've seen for their entire life. 315 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: So I get frustrated with umpires. Everybody does. But if 316 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 5: these hitters are going to get the same excuse, we 317 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 5: got to cut the umpires some slack too. And that's 318 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 5: another benefit that'll come from this too, is I think 319 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 5: the umpiring will improve, maybe incrementally, but it will improve 320 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 5: because we are seeing umpiring as bad as ever right 321 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 5: now when it comes to balls and strikes, and I 322 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 5: really do believe that it has to do with pitches 323 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 5: just doing things that these umpires have never seen before. 324 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: And there are some guys like Angel Hernandez that are 325 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 4: just bad, right, yes, bad right, There are a couple 326 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: of guys in the league that are just blatantly bad. 327 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: But if you don't follow MLB umpire Auditor, I think 328 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: it's that account on Twitter. It's perfect because you see 329 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: the percentage of calls that they got correct. You see 330 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: the true zone in the established zone of an empire, 331 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: and usually these guys are operating at an elite level. 332 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: And in hindsight, a guy that you label as dog 333 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: shit during a game is, you know, operating at like 334 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 4: ninety five percent, and that's really good, especially with how 335 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: these pitches are moving. You're right, but think about this 336 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 4: ninety eight with some run is hard enough to track 337 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: already for umpires. Now think about ninety eight that's somehow 338 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: rising and with this grip, with this boiling Coca cola 339 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: that they like make this concoction with. First of all, 340 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: actually not first of all, because we're fifteen minutes in, 341 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 4: but one of our friends that's on this staff at 342 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: Just Baseball, Colby Olsen, said he literally almost started a 343 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: grease fire trying to make this sticky stuff in his home. 344 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: He wanted to see how it worked, and I think 345 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 5: it's going to go on our TikTok. Like he was 346 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: playing with it and he videoed it. But yeah, like 347 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: he went fully like into the lab. Yeah, I mean, 348 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 5: like that's what some of these guys do. 349 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 4: And you know, in twenty twelve of these guys had 350 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: a lot of dead time and they were perfecting. 351 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: They're perfecting their gunk. Is what ESSI referre doing? 352 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 5: I throw a bullpen when you can just be a scientist. 353 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: Right, So, like, gravitationally speaking, it should be impossible for 354 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: a pitcher to throw a pitch that rises, but the 355 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: sticky stuff kind of defies gravity and it defies physics. 356 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: So we might see the first rising festiball. 357 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 5: At that point, it's just gigs, it's over, you know, 358 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: like you just can't hit, it's not possible. So I 359 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of a lot of pluses there, 360 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 5: and I think from umpiring to hitters being half decent 361 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 5: again to everything, I'm very interested to see the impact 362 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 5: that it has. I think it'll be better for the game. 363 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 5: But the problem is the enforcement, and that's something that 364 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: I think we're gonna have to follow along with. 365 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what other in force? 366 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 4: I know we talked about the shift for about two 367 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: minutes last episode. Let's you know, spend our five on 368 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 4: that right now? 369 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: Does that help? 370 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: Like the problem obviously right now is hitters aren't putting 371 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: the ball and play if they do, if that's cracked down, 372 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: and how much of a of a shift change, how 373 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: much of defensive alignment change do you need to see 374 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: to make baseball like more exciting? Because I established that 375 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 4: I established last week and I haven't changed much even 376 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: this week with a lot of reading. 377 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: That that, I think that the shift. 378 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: Can remain perfectly intact as it is and hitters need 379 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: to figure that out. If you know, this substance is 380 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: kind of cracked down on with pitchers. I still am 381 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: of that thinking, where Okay, now the pitch should be 382 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: a lot more hittable, let's try and adjust, let's try 383 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: and go the other way. 384 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm cool with that definitely, because we talk about 385 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 5: like these rising pitches and like this stuff like that, 386 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: Like could you imagine you're getting shifted pool side and 387 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: these guy's throwing a rising fastball up and a way 388 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: and you've got to try to like shoot it the 389 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 5: other way? Like impossible, possible, It's impossible. Or you're getting 390 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 5: a back leg slider. You you're getting back like slider 391 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 5: as a lefty and they're playing you pollside, like how 392 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: are you gonna how are you gonna shoot that the 393 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 5: other way? But the one thing that that kind of 394 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: did me in you're wearing a padraser and this is 395 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 5: it didn't really matter. It was just one of those 396 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 5: things that I was just like, what the hell is happening. 397 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 5: I watched it hit out to right field off the wall, 398 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, they might have a chance for 399 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 5: him at second and there's Manny Machado Baar handing it 400 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 5: from the warning track and right field and firing it 401 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 5: in I'm like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, 402 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: and you know, obviously it's not a problem, but it 403 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 5: was just like this moment of like we have gotten 404 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: this far with these shifts, that Manny Machado just played 405 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 5: a ball off the right field wall like I never 406 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: thought i'd see the day. I'm okay with it for now. 407 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: I mean, if my issue here is that, you know, 408 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 5: batting average on balls and play is also progressively gone down, 409 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 5: down and down, but yeah, I'm willing to wait it 410 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 5: out and see. I just think that it's it's another 411 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: one of those things in baseball that's just gotten so 412 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 5: damned extreme. I've seen so many shifts now where you know, 413 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: the guy I don't even know, it's not even always 414 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 5: the second baseman, but whatever infielder is in shallow right, 415 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 5: and then you have a guy up the middle, and yes, 416 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 5: the left side of the infield is open, but when 417 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 5: the guy's throwing ninety eight and setting up inside and 418 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: you're like, okay, yeah, I just shoot it the other way. 419 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: The only way the hitter is gonna hit that is 420 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 5: if he's cheating for the fastball, and it's like, how 421 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 5: do you cheat and go the other way? It just 422 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 5: seems like the pitcher kind of controls the game there. 423 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 5: It's really hard, and I just don't know how it's 424 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 5: fair for hitters in that point where I'm just tired 425 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: of seeing guys square balls up and shoot it up 426 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 5: the middle or whatever and it's a double play and 427 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 5: I'm just like, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. 428 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 4: Let's leave them with this question. Is this the most 429 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 4: confusing crossroads in baseball that the sport has ever hit? 430 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: Ah? 431 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, because steroids were objectively bad. And I know some 432 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: people say the steroid air was good for baseball, that 433 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 5: that's fine, but objectively at that time it was a 434 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: bad thing, you know, because it's like they're they're not 435 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 5: good for you whatever. But like this, yeah, this is 436 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: one of those things where it started as a normal, normal, 437 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: kind of little competitive edge. I think both did, but 438 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: the shift especially, and then it just gets so out 439 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 5: of hand and it's like, do you need to let 440 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 5: baseball normalize itself or do you need to normalize baseball? Like, 441 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 5: you know, you need to step in and normalize it. 442 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: And I think we're so far past the point of 443 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 4: baseball normalizing itself now. 444 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: Something needs to be done. But you know you can. 445 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: Play Devil's advocate for every single thing implemented. So once 446 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: you crack down on substance use on the hand, not injection, 447 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 4: but once you crack down on pictures substance use to 448 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: get tack and grip, then the pictures will make the argument, oh, well, well, 449 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: I'm more likely to hit somebody in the head and 450 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: cause of traumatic injury. Here. There is always going to 451 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: be the other flip of the coin with everything that 452 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: they do, and this is tough. 453 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: Baseball's in a really tough situation. 454 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 4: But the good news is this is as exciting as 455 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: baseball's ever been too, because you've got three guys twenty 456 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: three years if twenty three years older younger that are 457 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 4: at the top. 458 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 3: Of the home run charts. 459 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: Like baseball is the most confusing thing ever right now, 460 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 4: and we kind of love it. 461 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I always say the game is in 462 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: a great spot in terms of its talent. We have 463 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 5: so many marketable young players that are it's going to 464 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: be superstars for a long time, so baseball's got to 465 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: be pumped about that. Just please market them properly. I 466 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 5: think they are finally and you know we're going to 467 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: market them properly when we launch in was it sixteen days? Yeah, 468 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: sixteen days. Yeah, we'll be marketing Fernando Tatiss, we'll be 469 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: marketing those boys. But yeah, it's it's a good spot 470 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: for baseball in terms of talent, so don't let these 471 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 5: other things ruin it. So hopefully we'll see if they 472 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: can do that. Baseball does not have a great track 473 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: record of handling situations properly, so I'm not entirely optimistic. 474 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: But theo Epstein's in there now, Chicago, former Chicago guy, 475 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: kind of you know, he broke the curse, he broke 476 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 5: two curses. Maybe he can break the curse on baseball. 477 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: Right now, we'll see arm lad and happy Sunday, my man, 478 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 4: Happy Sunday Day. 479 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: And I will talk to you Tuesday.