WEBVTT - No Equality, No Economy 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.640 I'm Tamika d. Mallory and this. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.159 Shit boy my son in general. 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.600 We are your host of TMI. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:09.000 Tamika and my Son's information, truth, motivation and. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:16.079 Inspiration, new energy. But what's going on? My son, Lennon? 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.319 I am blessed, black and Holly favored. How you feel 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:19.520 into it? 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.239 You're doing good. I'm doing good. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.160 It's been a few days. The book is now released. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.720 It's just twenty four hours since release time. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:31.520 Thank you very much. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:36.800 Don't we need a thing ring ring around here for 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:41.559 our celebratory moments. So I'm excited, you know, I'm I'm 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.280 already I've already been on the road. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:45.640 You know. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:52.520 I am super grateful to all of my friends who 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.800 have opened up doors to their churches, their everything, their 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.400 community centers, anything you can think of. People have and 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.760 are continuing to work to make sure that I have 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.240 the most successful launch of my book as possible. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:08.440 I live to tell the story. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:13.640 I live to tell the story, and I am I'm 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.040 really really grateful. What makes me emotional because you know, 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.520 you reach out to people. Some people you reach out to, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.399 they tell you they're gonna call you back, or they're gonna, 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.200 you know, put you on and. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:25.320 I haven't had much of that. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.080 In fact, it's always surprising to me, Like every single 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.440 time in my life, I am surprised by those who 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:35.080 do right. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.920 And doing right does not mean doing it. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.160 So it's like a confusing thing that some people think 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.840 when you say, oh, you know, you did right by me, 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.000 that that means that you just did whatever I wanted 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:50.440 you to do. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.000 No, it's just communication. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.040 If I'm supposed to be your friend or somebody that 0:01:55.400 --> 0:02:00.160 you know, you have any kind of cordial relationship with, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.240 and I'm asking you to do something, don't commit and 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.600 then not commit, you know what I mean? 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.840 Like, that's just so whack to me. I try not 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:09.240 to do that. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.000 I'm not saying that I'm not guilty at times of 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.160 making mistakes and you're supposed to call somebody back or whatever. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.040 But you know, certain people, they see you, they know 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.040 you're constantly texting them reminder. At the reminder, you're asking 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:23.320 them like, hey, you know. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.280 Can we follow up? Can we do this thing? 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.960 If you don't want to do it, just say no, 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.919 just say you know what, it's not the right time 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.160 for me. I'll never forget another friend of ours. I 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.960 have been reaching out to her a friend of ours. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.880 I've been reaching out to her to have me on 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.360 her national TV show about something that we were doing 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.120 and it was work related, it wasn't for me personally, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:47.040 and she just. 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.720 Hit me back and was like she called me on 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:49.080 the phone. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.200 She's like, Hey, Sis, I just want to make sure 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.480 we have a verbal conversation because I don't want to 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.240 decline over text or email and it, you know, not 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.880 have the full context for what it is. She's like, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.120 but right now we're covering X y Z thing on 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.440 the show, and if I put you on, what you're 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:12.120 doing kind of like gives an excuse to the motherfuckers 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.480 that's doing this other thing. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.079 what you're doing, You're trying to come up with this solution, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.639 which I respect, but it contradicts the fact that we're 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:25.880 laying out right now every week, the different things that's 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.640 happening from these people, right And she's like, so it 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.680 just doesn't it doesn't work like it's pivoting in a 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.920 moment when we're hard on a point that's being made. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.000 Well, why is the industry like that? 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.080 And it's it's a thing that I've always had an 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:47.000 issue with, right because it's accepted in the industry and 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.520 a lot of people like us who just are authentic 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.520 that like, I'm gonna get on the phone and say 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.720 I can't do something, well, I'm gonna say I can 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:54.320 do it right. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.800 And I don't know why it's. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.640 So hard for people to have that level of just 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.000 communication respects. See it's somebody that I've and I'm gonna 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.480 do it to a person that I really don't even know, right, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.320 I've done shit for people that random people have come 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.080 up to me say hey, I want you to do something. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.080 I'd be like, and I think about okay, cool, and 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.040 once I say cool, we gonna figure it out. Or 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.080 or some people have come to me and said I 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.720 need you to do something, but I can't really do that, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.839 you know what I'm saying. And some people don't like 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.960 that you said, but it's honest. I'm just being honest. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.720 I'm not in a position to do it. I don't 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.160 have the time to do it, so I don't want 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.400 to commit myself to something I can And I don't 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.719 know why it's so hard within this industry, just all 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.000 of this industry that people don't know how to do that. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:34.840 Yeah, well, I mean I. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.919 Think, you know, sometimes you think people respect you, and 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.320 then sometimes you find out that they really don't. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:41.880 And that's just what it is. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.520 And I think in this particular situation where I was 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.200 saying about the friend who told me this is a 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:53.000 veteran you know, in the media world, somebody who's like, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.960 you know, understands that relationships are everything. You know what 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.920 I'm saying, and so it's just different. Also, this particular 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.120 individual who let me know, like I can't have you on, 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.880 they also have a commitment to our culture. They have 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.200 a commitment to the movement and all of that. So 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.120 it was like, you know, out of respect for you, 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.520 I'm gonna let you know that it just doesn't fit 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.400 in what I'm doing. But I can help you here. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.080 I could do this, I want to do that. Let's 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.039 see what else we could do. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.039 Boom. I'm okay with you just saying it just don't work. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.080 Have a nice day, But to say, okay, send me 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.200 the information. Oh yeah, definitely, anything I could do. Oh 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.039 for sure, Yes, definitely. Oh I want to support you 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:35.719 for sure. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:36.200 For sure. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.560 And then every time you send them this stuff, every 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.800 time you try to get a date a time locked in, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.440 they don't even say to you, well, those dates and 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.279 times that you give and don't work, just give me 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.120 a couple of weeks. I'm gonna get back to you 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.120 about what I actually can do, so you don't have 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.640 to just keep texting the air. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.200 You know what I'm saying. It's just wag. So I 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.880 just don't you know, it's okay. 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.479 Because I know now as I'm getting older, you learn 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.599 things about people and then you just place them in 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.680 certain buckets, you put them in certain categories. And so 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.240 I guess that's one aspect of this, but I have 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.960 but the one the people who are showing up, are 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:17.320 they outweigh anybody, outweigh anybody who hasn't for me? And 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.120 so I'm just you know, I don't even know. It's 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.000 like I want to be right, like, oh my god, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.200 and this happened. I got people doing major book buys 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.240 in different cities, Folks purchasing one hundred books, two hundred books, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:31.159 three hundred books. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:31.920 People just you. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:36.640 Know, doing their thing, and I want to be all 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.760 like whoo about it, But instead I have a you 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.679 know how we get when we work. It's very serious 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.680 for me, like I'm like, I need to keep my 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.719 eyes on all of this stuff. So that's what I'm doing, 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.040 is not getting too excited about anything, just being grateful 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:58.920 to God, staying stable, and remembering that writing the book, 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.760 doing the initial marketing, and starting a tour is only 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.880 the beginning. The reason why people don't have the type 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.880 of success that they want to see is because they 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.120 quickly as soon as they get it out the gate, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.480 then it's over when the real work actually starts. When 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.760 you're like on the track. It's not the getting up okay, cool, 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.000 you get up in the morning. That's big because nobody 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:25.680 wants to. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.080 Get up in the morning to go work out. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.000 Most people. Some people do, but most people don't want 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.000 to get up in the morning. So that's a big part. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.320 It's just waking up and getting yourself there. Then you 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.640 got to put your cute outfit on or whatever you're 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.960 gonna wear. That's another part of it. You get your stretching. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.480 You did all of that, and then you start running. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.240 Once you start running, you gotta run. And that's where 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.200 I'm at now. Now I'm in the running stage, So 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.480 I'm excited. I live to tell a story is out 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.400 right now. Please if you do not have I know 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.200 some folks did not want to pre order because you 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.360 want the book to be in your hand as soon 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.840 as you order it. Now is the time the book 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.360 is released. It was released yesterday, twenty four hours ago. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:11.440 And I'm asking that you please go and order my 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.760 second book. You know, order the first one too, State 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:14.400 of Emergency. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:15.120 Both of you. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.080 Can pick up my book right now. So right now, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:21.720 that's the deal. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:23.680 Yes man, that's dope. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.000 So I have a super short thought of the day 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.480 today because we have to get our guests on and 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.320 actually he doesn't have a lot of time, so we 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.640 need to be quick. But I saw a couple of 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.280 days ago it might be yeah, like last week that 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.120 during Black History Month, the White House has announced that 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:47.920 they are going to be celebrating American history, and they 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.880 don't want to do, you know, any particular cultural things, 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.280 so no Black history. They want to focus on American history. Now, 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.880 you and I know that a large part of their 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:04.400 plan is to restore the white male as being the 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.520 dominant force in our society. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:07.000 We know it. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.480 It's in Project twenty twenty five, which they are clearly 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:10.080 laying out. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.760 They doing their thing. We know what's going on. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.240 But I thought about it and I said, you know what, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.000 I'm actually not going to be offended by this because 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:18.560 they're right. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:19.680 They are right. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.800 Our history here on this soil is American history. It 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.040 is not Black history. It is American history. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.720 But the problem is they're not going to give our party. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.199 I know that, but I'm just saying they actually don't 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.320 even realize that they might be going in the right direction. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:37.960 Why would they have. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.480 To celebrate American history during Black history? Like I don't understand, 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:47.000 Like why would you replace black history with American history? 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.000 Is because we know why. But I'm saying that sometimes 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.200 what you mean for bad can actually turn out to 0:09:54.240 --> 0:10:00.080 be good. Still gonna teach in their homes in the 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.200 they still gonna. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.240 I call it Black American. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.960 Look, they still gonna teach about enslavement. They're gonna teach 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.960 about Tolsa, Oklahoma. They gonna teach about Rosewood. They're gonna 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.400 teach about Martin Luther King. They're gonna teach about Malcolm X. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.000 They gonna teach about Rosa Parks. What what's some of 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:17.000 the other things they. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.280 Teach about Black panthers. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:28.120 They don't teach about black pet Frederick Douglas Obama, Obama family. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.920 They don't teach about saying what do they currently teach 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.360 white people in general? 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:37.040 Loud? 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.840 They teach you about like Martin Luther King. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.719 So they teach you about I went because I went 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.840 to a high school, I mean junior high school. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:50.360 Charles all Drew, you know, and he started blood transfusions. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.320 He was one of those, and he he did a 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.560 lot of things to plasma out of blood, utilized it, frozen, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:57.559 sent it to the army. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.559 He saved many lives with it. So he did a 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:00.000 lot of things. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:05.319 So they teach you about invention. But they don't want 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.040 to teach you about them shackles. They don't want to 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.280 teach you about segregation. They don't want to teach you 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.200 about Jim Crow. That's what they're trying to do is 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.360 to leave out the part that they claim is designed 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:21.440 to make white people, white kids feel guilty. No, feel guilty, 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.120 that's what they say. But we understand what the white 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.200 Washington history is. They've always wanted to do that, and 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.599 so you know, my thought of the day is, I 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.679 think they're right. They should teach black history in the 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:40.040 context of American history because almost everything that know, everything 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.960 that they've done to us is American history. And to 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:49.439 be clear, even our accomplishments, despite what they've done, that's 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:50.400 American history. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:51.560 We built this. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.840 Country, as as our. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.680 Sister Angela Ras says, we built this country for free. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.600 So it's a history, it's for free. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.520 So now we need to jump to our guests so 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.640 that we can make sure we don't lose him. And 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.199 we want to talk about the target, protests, the target, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.680 the response to target. You know, so many people have 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.280 so many things to say, and I think that what's 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.679 necessary for us is to continue to inform, to continue 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.160 to learn, to continue to draw on history because we've 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.120 been here before. And I think that our guest that 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:34.880 is coming up, the Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant, He's got 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.760 a lot to say, so let's get into it. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.839 Jamal Harrison, Brian Harrison. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.319 So our brother friends, you know, joining us our friends. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.640 That's what we do on this show. That's what they say, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.959 y'all all about your friends. Y'all don't have me on 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.000 the show. You have is your friends on the show. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.800 But we got friends that do a lot of important things. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.000 And our brother we are in the trenches all the time. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:04.319 We don't he does not need a long introduction. If 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.719 you don't know who passed, Jamal Bryant is at this 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.840 point in your life, God help you. I was in 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:15.480 church a few weeks ago, months ago, a couple months ago, 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.760 and I was so embarrassed by my behavior. When I 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.079 left that church, I couldn't believe I cried and yelled 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.400 and cut up the way that I did at New 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:31.280 Birth Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia, in Lathonia, Okay. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:32.920 In the in the community with the people. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.160 And let me just say real quick, we are extremely 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.120 proud of you and what you've been able to do. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.120 Jamal. You know you have. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.120 We've been there with you through so many different phases 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:47.920 of your life. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:53.480 You know I have. It's been many, It's been many. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.040 But but what I do, I don't even mean all 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.640 of the stuff, because you know, I get the fighting 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.079 and cussing people out because I can talk different from you. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.400 You I ain't. I'm not a clergy woman, so. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:06.280 I say shits and ass and mfs and everything when 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.600 they mess with you. But what I mean is that 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:15.760 your ministry has expanded extraordinarily in terms of how you 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.520 know when you you you've always used whatever resources you 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.240 had to do as much as you can do. But 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.800 now we're seeing you literally use new birth, you using 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.480 do they know you using them at that church to 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:34.080 do go this this incredible work, community work in a 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.800 way that I just think it's just so marvelous. And 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.400 so I just want to say, because we never really 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.640 give one another our flowers as we should, I'm really 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.080 really proud of what you're doing there in Georgia, and. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.200 Thank you for being my second sister entertainment. Yes, yes, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:52.680 it's taking through. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.320 Both of you all, but we were gonna have I 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.840 know you got a book coming out, but we're gonna 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.960 have to write a book probably after about ten people. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.240 We have the way until people well, you know what 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.760 in my book, I say that I talked in a 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.760 few places, I say I would tell you who did 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.800 this thing to me, or I would tell you who 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.920 said this, but I can't because they're still alive. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.600 So when it soon soon come listen. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.120 We can't cancel Black History Month twice. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:29.560 Right, yes we will. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.480 Everybody don't need to know everything that had happened, right, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.640 So anyway, thank you for joining us today. We wanted 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.760 to jump on and really talk about our most recent efforts, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.160 which you know I have been saying over and over 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.000 to the many people who I think have some either 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.760 disconnect from history, either they don't know, they don't want 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.840 to know, or they are purposely distorting history. When we 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.960 talk about diversity, equity, and inclusion and how it all 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.800 came about, we know that. And you know this from 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:06.000 working in the NAACP and working with alongside so many organizations. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:11.160 And of course we all, whether we directly associate or 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.720 understand or come straight out of the Rainbow Push Coalition, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.320 we all know the work that Reverend Jackson and people 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:24.440 like him were doing when we were kids to ensure 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:30.320 that there was access for black folks within these corporate spaces. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.520 And it was not It wasn't work that just happened overnight. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.400 White people didn't just wake up one day and say, oh, 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.840 we like black people and we just gonna open up 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.520 our boards and open up the shelves and give more 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.800 jobs and spend more money and donate more resources. That 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.040 didn't happen overnight. It was a struggle. It was a fight, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.320 and we know from doctor King and others, but we 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.400 in our time. I would say that Reverend Jackson is 0:16:55.440 --> 0:17:01.040 one of the individuals that I watched literally kicked down 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:06.400 doors of major corporations to provide opportunities for people. And 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.199 it was little ladies like my mother and maybe you 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:14.880 know aunts grandmothers who were out there protesting day and night, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.160 that didn't have resources, They didn't have millions of dollars, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:18.800 they didn't. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:19.399 Have social media. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.840 But if they knew that a particular corporation was disrespecting 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.720 someone or some part of our community, them people held 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.080 the line day and night, They boycotted, they did whatever 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.119 they had to do. And it wasn't about one business. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.239 It was about access. It was about ensuring that you 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.360 do not have You don't letting people know you don't 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.400 have the right to set up a business in our community, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.480 and then we can't get jobs there. We can't be 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.600 on the board, we can't have any influence on what 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.760 happens within these corporations, within these businesses. And so when 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.879 I hear people saying to hell with DEI doesn't need 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.240 to be reimagined. Absolutely, should it be, you know, the 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.639 twenty first century version of it. Certainly all of that, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.679 you know, have other people benefited, certainly, but we should 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.760 never desecrate and dismiss the work that was done in 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.960 order to get us to where we were just a 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.320 couple of weeks ago. So I just wanted to put 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.240 that on the table, and I know you can speak 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.679 to that. And so here we are in this moment 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:28.080 where companies are beginning to, in our judgment, power to 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:34.160 Donald Trump and the Maga trump Ism, this new culture 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.320 that they are are trying to shape in America. And 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:43.440 we see companies companies that our people have found as 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.359 a home. So Target, for one, is a place that 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.080 black women go to and stay for four hours. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:49.840 We do this. 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:54.160 Yeah, And so you know when we see Target as 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.800 one of those companies that it's said that they are 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.720 rolling back their DEI stuff and they're going to be 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.280 moved being away from some of what we know them 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.040 to be and how we became sort of partners with 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.760 Target in the first place. There are people who are 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.720 very upset about it, people who have decided that they 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.760 will never I see people saying they wouldn't care what 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.639 we tell them, They ain't walking back in Target for 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.080 the rest of their well, for whatever amount of time. 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.760 And so I wonder, you know, for you, what does 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:29.080 this moment mean? Why are you so passionate about it? 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.159 There's so many fights going on, but this one is 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.359 important to us, and I'm sure that it has a 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.160 lot to do with sort of the history of how 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.399 we got our beginnings in the civil rights movement. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:45.560 The heartbeat, to make a mice of what we have 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:50.679 done has really centered around aggressive policing and not so 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.719 much about the next phase of civil rights, which is 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.679 civil silver rights. Is that this is a critical moment 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:03.600 I believe for the revival of the movement and. 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.680 A resurgence of the relevance of the Black church. 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.840 A lot of gen zs and alphas can't tell you 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.440 the names of the heads of historic civil rights organizations 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.359 or of pastors, and so this is really bringing to 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.520 bayar those of us who have gotten comfortable and rested 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.359 on our laurels until it became iamic uh. And so 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.119 I think that we really are going to have to 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.360 be vigilant, but we're gonna have to be patient. We've 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.600 got along four years and so much has been thrown 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:39.680 out in the first two weeks. They're talking about before 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:44.639 this week ends dismantling the Department of Education and putting 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:49.959 them back to the States. The Secretary of State Rubio 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.760 is talking about how it is that other countries will 0:20:53.800 --> 0:21:00.199 house our undocumented citizens, residents, and even some Americans. There's 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.159 so many fights that are getting ready to come that 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:07.439