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Speaker 3: Well, I know they're lying. They tricked me once, but

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Professor Penn Podcast, David Pen, your host,

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Speaker 3: glad to be with you as always for episode number

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Speaker 3: two fifty, coming to you on Tuesday, the twentieth of October. Man,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it. Tann Er, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 3: This year is almost in the can baby. Yeah, it's almost.

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Speaker 3: It's almost the holidays.

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Speaker 4: And that's episode two hundred and fifty. Crazy crazy, Good

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Speaker 4: morning to you, Good morning, Thank you for coming in.

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Speaker 4: Guess what everybody I have in studio today, a guest

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Speaker 4: one of our getting to be a regular National Committee man. Hey,

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Speaker 4: Kay kamaraw welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir, thanks for having me. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: what this is episode three? This third time you've been time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta say you're looking the sharpest. I love

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Speaker 4: the beard, dude.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's really funny. The only my wife hates

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Speaker 2: you really can't tell that I'm forty one. When I

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Speaker 2: grazy But I like to wear a soul patch for

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Speaker 2: It's like a thing for me, and I shaved.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what a soul. So it's the

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Speaker 2: tuft of hair that's underneath your lip. Sometimes mine is square,

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Speaker 2: my libray, which is the lower part of your lip,

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Speaker 2: then I'll shave it back to just a nice, full

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Speaker 2: York City. Oh wow, Yeah, they're well, they're not palsis,

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Speaker 2: but they met sure friend of mine from California, which

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Speaker 2: He's so far left that he's almost right. Does that

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Speaker 3: Well, we're just going to tell you right now. See

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Speaker 3: no ak, he just bought a set of tires, but

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Speaker 2: Next time. That's not going to happen next time. That's right.

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Speaker 3: And you know what would get us to twenty million

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Speaker 3: trying to hold it together. Repost these links. Number one,

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Speaker 4: We're going to be putting together a YouTube course here

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Speaker 3: But we have this this cleavage in the party, and clearly,

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Speaker 3: when you're out in social media, you're not hiding about

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Speaker 3: what you think, particularly in terms of the technocracy or

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Speaker 3: digital technology being used to imprison people. You know, you're

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Speaker 3: right out there, and people still look at me and go,

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Speaker 3: what I went out with somebody just on Saturday, because

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Speaker 3: I'm always building period of peer relationships. Somebody that's not

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Speaker 3: a great support of yours, I'd like to see it heals.

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Speaker 3: Reverend Christopher get into it, brother, I know, and I

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Speaker 3: defended gin Our at our meeting, but you know, I

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Speaker 3: looked at him and we started talking about globalism, and

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Speaker 3: I think Reverend Tim's pretty smart, pretty cool dude, right,

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Speaker 3: But it was no surprise he really didn't know a

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Speaker 3: lot about globalism.

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Speaker 2: Of course he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: And well, when you say that, and I actually looked

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Speaker 3: at him, I said, is it any surprise to me

446
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Speaker 3: that a black man focused on the issues in his community?

447
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Speaker 3: Does not see the link between the global and what's

448
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Speaker 3: happening locally in his backyard. And this is what we're trying,

449
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Speaker 3: what I'm trying to do. I said, this global agenda,

450
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Speaker 3: it's right down here in Minnesota. So what's happening in

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Speaker 3: the party Again, There's been no endorsements, there's been no primaries,

452
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Speaker 3: but the same folks are waiting in the world weeds

453
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Speaker 3: and they're stabbing people in the back before we're even

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Speaker 3: into a contest. I got a problem with that, sure,

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Speaker 3: I really do. Because and just to go a little

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Speaker 3: bit farther, there is this arrogance, this kind of presumption.

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Speaker 3: And you just said it's fox popular. You can't go

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Speaker 3: against the voice of the people, the will of people

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Speaker 3: for very long, okay, But there is a group of

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Speaker 3: people that are trying to shape that voice and minimize

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Speaker 3: that voice. And here's what it is. President Trump lost

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota. Mega can't win here, which is exactly the

463
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Speaker 3: opposite of what you were just saying. Exactly the opposite.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So you know who these people are and you know

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Speaker 3: what they're doing. So this cleavage in the party, it's

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Speaker 3: right there again. So let me tell you what my

468
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Speaker 3: tactic gets ready, yep, because a lot of them are

469
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Speaker 3: going to be listening to you want to see how

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Speaker 3: are you going to go here on this podcast? So

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Speaker 3: I got all their ears right now, and I'm going

472
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Speaker 3: to tell you people, I don't like you. Number one.

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Speaker 3: You're either lying to yourselves or you're lying to the people.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to get by with me on that.

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Speaker 3: And when you lie, I'm going to call you out

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to be brutal about it, because I

477
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Speaker 3: think your ideology is brutal, brutal to the people. The

478
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Speaker 3: day after the primary, whoevers are, I'm door knocking for them, yep.

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Speaker 3: The day after the election, we're getting back in the ring.

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Speaker 3: So all this thing about unity, there's no unity. There's

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Speaker 3: using each other to accomplish Republican victories. That's a new strategy.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to fight with these people. I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to draw my sword first. These people are hacking

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Speaker 3: away and we're not even In the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: we had articles in the Minneapolis Tribune, we had videos

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Speaker 3: published by that same mainstream media here locally in town

487
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Speaker 3: talking about rip cup Cella. You kind of gotta you

488
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Speaker 3: kind of got to throw all out of him turned

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Speaker 3: into a Trump or didn't you No.

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Speaker 2: See, here's a couple of points. Right. The thing that

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Speaker 2: I have respected about you the most, David, Right, and

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Speaker 2: what I try and apply the same to everyone else.

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Speaker 2: I will go on anyone's show, I will have relationships

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Speaker 2: with anyone that wants to actually make this country better.

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Speaker 2: And the thing that I like to always challenge people

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Speaker 2: when I'm talking to someone, let's say that represents the

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Speaker 2: old Republicanism, I actually disagree that they are intentionally Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying not every single one, but in general,

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Speaker 2: the people that I've met that are part of the

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Speaker 2: Old Republican Guard, they think that their formula is the

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Speaker 2: best formula to save America. We're talking about in the

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Speaker 2: grassroots of the party. Oh, I'm saying beyond that, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna take a step that you're that you won't go to,

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Speaker 2: which is fine, because this is the difference between you

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Speaker 2: and I, and I can disagree with this foundational difference

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Speaker 2: unless and I'm we had a conversation before we went

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Speaker 2: on air about showing receipts, and I do want to

508
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Speaker 2: see these receipts, but more specifically, unless I have something

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Speaker 2: that can show me the intent of someone. I genuinely,

510
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Speaker 2: if I agree that they want to have the same

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Speaker 2: thing as me, such as they want America to be

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Speaker 2: better or save America, I genuinely and generally take them

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Speaker 2: at their best. I don't take them at their worst.

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Speaker 2: And so if someone if I believe that they actually

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Speaker 2: fundamentally and truly in their heart want to save America

516
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Speaker 2: and make America better, but we disagree on how to

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Speaker 2: get there, I'm going to take whatever their solution is

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Speaker 2: with their best of intention, not their worst. And so

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Speaker 2: when I have two different people that have two different solutions,

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Speaker 2: the old Republican guard, which I don't think will work anymore.

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Speaker 2: I mean the statistics, but polling, that battle has been

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Speaker 2: lost because of if I'm being very candid, the desire

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Speaker 2: for power has corrupted the idea of having a free

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Speaker 2: market capitalist system. The free market and capitalism that we

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Speaker 2: have in this country has been supplanted by Marxism and

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Speaker 2: leftism in order to corrupt the system. And the globalists

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Speaker 2: that have went along with it, that have been from

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Speaker 2: the right, are doing it because it keeps them in power. Right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think though, that they would look at you

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Speaker 2: straight in the face and you said here's the truth.

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Speaker 2: This will destroy the United States, and they will look

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Speaker 2: at you and say, good, I want it to happen.

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Speaker 3: No, no, they believe I agree. Let me just say predicate,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you that many of many of them,

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Speaker 3: not everyone, no, no, but it's my generation a lot

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Speaker 3: of them, because hey, you know Ronald Reagan. I mean

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Speaker 3: I was in my twenties when he was president and

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Speaker 3: that philosophy. I was just watching the speech on YouTube

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Speaker 3: from Reagan in sixty four when he was back in

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Speaker 3: Berry Goldwater.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: This guy, oh, this guy was something, I mean, just fantastic.

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Speaker 3: But again, between sixty four and eighty something changed to

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Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan because he promoted a kind of globalist, free market,

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Speaker 3: free trade, pro immigration policy which has proven to be

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Speaker 3: over time. The numbers that you're talking about rejected by

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Speaker 3: the bulk of the American citizens. But the American citizens

548
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: don't even know how to articulate what's happened to him.

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Speaker 3: In many cases, we get caught up in this group

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Speaker 3: of activists. We got all these buzzwords like globalism and nationalism,

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Speaker 3: and we're all in this kind of subculture. And you

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Speaker 3: pop out of that subculture and Like I said, I

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Speaker 3: was talking to Reverend Tim. He wasn't really sure what

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Speaker 3: globalism was, and I was so surprised by that. I

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Speaker 3: kind of asked him if he was playing me. Sure,

556
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Speaker 3: but I really think he was sincere he didn't really

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Speaker 3: get it. He doesn't see that link. Well, those people,

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Speaker 3: I believe that many of them believe in packs Americana.

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Speaker 3: They believe in the American Empire. They believe that American values,

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Speaker 3: an American economic organization are better for the world than

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Speaker 3: anything else agreed, and they believe that will bring the

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Speaker 3: best benefits to the American people. I think they believe that. Yep,

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Speaker 3: when they're talking to you, I don't think they really

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Speaker 3: believe that. Sure, I mean, I mean, I'm just being

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Speaker 3: Franko Ball No. Yeah, And this again, this is what

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Speaker 3: is important. I think it's important to have this conversation

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Speaker 3: on your show. See, you and I we agree up

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Speaker 3: to that point and then we diverge. But because of

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Speaker 3: that divergence, I'm not going to throw away all of

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Speaker 3: the other things that you and I agree on so

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Speaker 3: much more about. And so for me, it's like I

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Speaker 3: recognize that this is the case. I won't go to

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Speaker 3: the point unless I have direct evidence of an individual

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Speaker 3: that that's where they're at. So instead, I'm still going

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Speaker 3: to talk about what I think is important and what

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Speaker 3: ultimately at the end of the day, I think that

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Speaker 3: I can provide you so much information and data to

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Speaker 3: show you that the reason why your solution, the old

579
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: Republican guard is failing, is because you had a huge

580
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Speaker 3: blind spot for one of two things. Either someone was

581
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: lying to you right and they tricked you, or maybe

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Speaker 3: you really have made a deal with the devil and

583
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Speaker 3: you're okay with it now. Again, for most people, I

584
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Speaker 3: think that it's an absence of information. It goes against

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Speaker 3: everything they believed to be true. Your generation, you grew

586
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Speaker 3: up under Reagan. You saw the economic prosperity that came.

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Speaker 3: I lived it, You lived it, and it did build

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Speaker 3: up this amazing thing all through the nineties. But I

589
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 3: started in the eighties. Let me tell you, I started

590
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: importing tires in nineteen eighty seven. I was actually encouraged

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Speaker 3: by my government to go do it, to spread American

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Speaker 3: democracy and free market economics all over the world. I

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Speaker 3: was imparted. But let me just say one thing. Just

594
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: told your thought right there, it doesn't have to be

595
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: even insidious or negative. It's just as simple as all this.

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Speaker 3: To me, my Constitution grants me rights, not because of government,

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Speaker 3: because of a creator. The country is set up where

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Speaker 3: the most important. You know that in the Constitution a

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Speaker 3: republican form of governance is guaranteed to every state. What

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Speaker 3: is a Republican form of governance? Republicanism is a life philosophy.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's four pillars to it. I'm a sovereign

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Speaker 3: of my own life, but as the king or queen

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Speaker 3: of my own life, I respect minority rights. I'm involved

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Speaker 3: in civic life because I'm a Republican and I believe

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Speaker 3: in the common good. The common good. Once you've left

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Speaker 3: those four, when you take one of those pillars out,

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Speaker 3: you become a liberal or progressive.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: One of the most wonderful parts of being an American

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Speaker 3: for me is and we talked about this in a

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Speaker 3: last broadcast doing it. If I go to caucus with

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Speaker 3: ten of my neighbors, we're all electing each other. We're

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Speaker 3: actually in the party, we're players. Governance is in my neighborhood,

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Speaker 3: even though we through our own lack of engagement, we've

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Speaker 3: allowed power to get aggregated all the way to Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. Which is so far from Reverend Tim's community,

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Speaker 3: for example, or even from my community. But the way

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Speaker 3: the countries really set is that governance is supposed to

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Speaker 3: be in my backyard, that the most important person in

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Speaker 3: the whole deal is the individual citizen. Would you agree

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Speaker 3: with that story? Okay, that's not happening, not because those

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Speaker 3: people perverted the system, but because the individual citizens gave

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Speaker 3: up their republican rights to be involved in self governance,

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Speaker 3: to be civically engaged, left the power of vacuum. Professionals

625
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Speaker 3: filled the vacuum. That's not on them, that's on the citizens.

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Speaker 3: But now what is free trade?

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Speaker 2: Now you talk?

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Speaker 3: Kristin Robbins is welcome on this podcast. Yeah, Okay, my

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Speaker 3: passport looks diplomatic. I've been to Japan, China. I've been

630
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Speaker 3: in China over one hundred times, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, Europe,

631
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Speaker 3: countries in Europe, I've been all over in my career.

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Speaker 3: And I because I'm involved in international trade, I realized

633
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Speaker 3: the international trade is already world governance. That is world governance.

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Speaker 3: It was the trojan horse to bring about world governance.

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Speaker 3: And Trump's thrown some sand in those gears right now.

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Speaker 3: But if you're an American and you love America and

637
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Speaker 3: the sovereignty of the American way, why would you subordinate

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Speaker 3: American interests to global governance? And that's my point. That's

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Speaker 3: why I'm not going to give these people the past

640
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Speaker 3: that you are, because these are educated, aware people who

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: have invested in internationalist structures, in institutions at the expense

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Speaker 3: of my fellow citizens. So I don't, I mean, because

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Speaker 3: I've actually lived it, and I'm one of the few

644
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Speaker 3: business people. I remember in twenty fifteen, No. Twenty two

645
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, it was the first trade case in

646
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: the tire business. The United steel Workers sued to stop

647
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: the importation of a certain class attires or to tax

648
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: it so they could keep their jobs. And they were

649
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 3: out in Washington, see wearing their T shirts. They weren't

650
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: kind to the people that showed up there for the

651
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: other side, which was my camp. You know, I spent hours, hours,

652
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: dozens of hours research in the usw and I thought, man,

653
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: these people are communists, you know what, our system is

654
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: so wonderful. They held the line when the elites were

655
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: selling them out. They held the line on American manufacturing.

656
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: That's where this came from, was from the left saying, wait,

657
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, you sold us out. Nobody was representing their interests,

658
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: nobody until President Trump came along.

659
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Speaker 2: So here's what I want to say. The reason why

660
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: I think that until you can show me on an

661
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: individual and I know sometimes it's like, that's such a

662
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: high bar. Aka, how can you set this bar but

663
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: on an individual basis of showing what is their actual

664
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: intent instead of me making the leap in the assumption

665
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: of saying, well, these are smart people. I agree they're

666
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: smart people. But the one thing that I know for

667
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: a fact is that if you believe something, and I

668
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: don't care how smart you are, intuitively there was a

669
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: gut flash in your gut. Intuitions come first, strategic reasoning

670
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: comes second. So if you intuitively believe in free market

671
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: capitalism and that you can export freedom and democracy across

672
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: the globe, when someone says those words and it gives

673
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: a flash of like absolutely, it will be so hard

674
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: to change that person's mind with facts. It's not going

675
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: to ever work. I can feed them, feed them, feed them,

676
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: feed them. The only thing that we can show time

677
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: and time again, we actually help them change their intuitions

678
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: is that they have to experience a moment where they

679
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: intuitively connect to someone else and then they discover that

680
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: they're wrong, an epiphany, an epiphany brother, and so this

681
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: is this is what I'm saying. This has been my argument,

682
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: and this is why I approach Republican politics the way

683
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: that I do. I don't beat over the head the

684
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: old guard Republicans with what I know is the truth.

685
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: The reason why I believe that Thomas Sole and Milton

686
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: Freeman and all these great economics economists, all of their

687
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: work is still valid. The thing that no, none of

688
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: these people will acknowledge is that the systems that they

689
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: describe don't exist right now there were perverted. If they

690
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: did exist, it would work. I am not here to

691
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: say that Thomas Soul and Milton Friedman and so many

692
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: other great economists are wrong. They're not wrong. Free market

693
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: capitalism does work, but you have to have a system

694
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: that allows it to work. And the system that we

695
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: have created is not free market capitalism in any way,

696
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: shape or form. And so because of that, you having

697
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: to get someone to believe that that's not true. Like

698
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: I at the same group that I spoke to, and

699
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: I said at a group that I spoke to before that,

700
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: I said, understand that the idea of free market capitalism

701
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: is dead with gen Zers. They don't believe in it's

702
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 2: and that's the Mark Mitchell art and that's Mark Mitchell's argument.

703
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: And I and I've known that before because again you

704
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: look at the data when you define what is free

705
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: market capitalism, and then you ask, when's the last time

706
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: that America truly like had free market capitalism. It's been

707
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: a long time, man, And we because we actually believed

708
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: in the ethos of that, we were able to be

709
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: as successful as we are as a country, but over

710
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: a long enough period of time and that system being

711
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: corrupted and perverted. Now you are seeing on a global

712
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: scale what happens when, as you said before, this trade

713
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: is basically under the guise of creating a global, one

714
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: world government. Which is what has happened. That is not

715
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: free market capitalism. That is the thing that free market

716
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: capitalists have been yelling against and shouting into the wind,

717
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: saying the idea of centrally planning and controlling governments will

718
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: never work for X, Y, and Z reasons. You're seeing

719
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: why it doesn't work. Because that's what we've had. It's

720
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: just it seemed like it wasn't because it feels like

721
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: it's so disconnected, because people didn't understand that you have

722
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: the Bank, you know, the International Bank on Settlements, and

723
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: that you have the IMF, and you have all of

724
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: these institutions that have centralized all the planning of how

725
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: economies are run across the entire globe. So we've had that,

726
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: but most people don't actually realize that we have. Tim

727
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: Christopher has no idea because he believed the whole notion

728
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: that we have a free market capitalist system. So many

729
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: Republicans in the old Guard still believe that's true. President Trump,

730
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: he's had the foresight and he's seen that that's not

731
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: the case. He's a businessman. Well it's not that he's

732
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: just a business but that's no, it's a huge part

733
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: of it. But he actually has seen it. He realizes

734
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: how weak America has become. But more importantly, he's trying

735
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Speaker 2: to cut against the inevitability of what happens when the

736
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Speaker 2: centralized plan systems fail. The old economic liberal world order.

737
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: An economic system is collapsing, as all centrally planned systems do,

738
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Speaker 2: and in the dying gasps of that collapse. You will

739
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: see turmoil and warli we've never seen before as those

740
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: systems die. And Trump is trying to do everything in

741
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: his power to avoid that. And that's what I truly,

742
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: fundamentally believe. He's looking at fail soft he is that

743
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: is a fail. It's gonna fail. There's just no way

744
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: to keep the current system propped up under itself. It

745
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: just it can't exist. Actually, I just want to say

746
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: this point because I've lived it. I was in China

747
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: in ninety three. When I went there, there was no cars.

748
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: People walked bicycles. Hey, if you were on a bicycle,

749
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: you're upscale. Rickshaw's mopad man. Oh my gosh, you hit

750
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: the big time motorcycle. You're a baller cars. You were

751
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: part of the government. Okay.

752
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 3: It was incredible to be there and over the course

753
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: of my lifetime watching that country lift tens of million

754
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: people out of poverty. I mean, what they've done. And

755
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be a cheerleader for the Chinese.

756
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: It's just a fact. The Chinese are about China. They

757
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: made us think it was all one happy family for

758
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: many years, and then Trump unmasked the Chinese in his

759
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: first term. But they have a state centralized economic model

760
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: that is so powerful and so efficient when compared with

761
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: our messy free market capitalism. And they pantsed us for

762
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: two reasons. Number one, we're a Christian country. We value

763
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: honesty and transparency, and we want to love our neighbor

764
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: as we wish to be loved. They said, oh, look

765
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: at these dummies. It took us a long time to

766
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: recognize that they were playing with a different rule book.

767
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: Yep.

768
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: Trump helped on that also, and that's extending right till today.

769
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: There was just today the announcement of a potential trade

770
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: deal framework that's rolling out. So what is Trump doing

771
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: in doing this? He's saying, well, wait a second. We've

772
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: got our system which has been, as you've been saying,

773
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: quite consistently, not what we think it is. And you

774
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 3: can see that because the Trump administration's taking stakes in

775
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: mining companies and chip companies. This is not free market

776
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: capitalism as we've known it. To confront the Chinese model there,

777
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 3: we didn't succeed getting them to be like us. We're

778
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: becoming like them. And there's great danger in that, great

779
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: danger because that world architecture of trade still exists.

780
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: It hasn't.

781
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: It really has not been diminished. And what Trump is doing,

782
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: I think because I'm a participant in this system. He

783
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: believes that our system can be saved yep. And how

784
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: he's trying to save it is with this tariff revenue.

785
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: You know, it could be as much as six to

786
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: eight hundred billion dollars a year, which means the big

787
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: beautiful Bill is not a deficit bill. It's a revenue

788
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: positive bill over a ten year period. He's trying to

789
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: shore up the system people. And I was just reading

790
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: Amy Klobchar this morning. Oh, these tariffs, Look what it's

791
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: doing to the people. Hey, you know which do you

792
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: prefer paying a little bit extra for a hard good

793
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: or complete economic collapse? And then we don't know what's

794
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: on the other side of that, because in a collapse,

795
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: you know, when you go down to your ATM, Tanner,

796
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: do you have an ATM card?

797
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: Yep? Do you use it? Yep?

798
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: How'd you like to go down there and say give

799
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: me fifty bucks? And it says ha ha ha, it

800
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: laughs at you.

801
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've thought about this. As soon as that

802
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: day happens, I'm heading straight for the woods. He's a hunter,

803
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 4: He's going to be self sufficient. He's got a little

804
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: self governing. But you know, my point is that I

805
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: think President and Trump is trying to save this system.

806
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 4: I think he's but at the same time he's also

807
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: negotiating for its replacement.

808
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yep. So here's what I would say, Not only

809
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: is he trying to save the system, because you said

810
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: a soft fail, and I think that that's the best

811
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: way to describe it. There is a new system that

812
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: is coming. And the reason why a new system has

813
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: to come is because again, when you have a free

814
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: market capitalist system and you do not set up guardrails,

815
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: then it will, I think, show at this point the

816
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: inevitable creep of having globalists take advantage and they will

817
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: use your free market capitalism against you unless you set

818
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: up hard guardrails. And so that's to me what happened. Right.

819
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: Every single system developed by a human will be adapted

820
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: to those that were on the opposite side of not

821
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: receiving the benefits because they didn't go with the system.

822
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: And humans are smart. God gave us these amazing brains.

823
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: We will figure out a way to rig the system

824
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: and use it against itself. That's the ever changing dynamic

825
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: of humanity. And so it's like this chess game that's

826
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: being played by humanity on a broad scale. And so

827
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: the old system of like free market capitalism, baby letter rip,

828
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: everything will take care of itself. That doesn't work without

829
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: the guardrails. Because again, as you've seen what the current system,

830
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: this is my contention, and I think all the data

831
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: bears it has turned into a centralized plan and controlled economy,

832
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: just not by the people that we thought it would be.

833
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying like a nefarious global shadowy government. No,

834
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's much less nefarious from that perspective. From

835
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: an organizational standpoint, it's just how power coalesces. If all

836
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you have all of these nations agreeing

837
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: to this broad set of rules and you start to

838
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: gain more and more power, you're going to have a

839
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: natural hierarchy that's going to design itself to keep that

840
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: power that it has. And that's what is happen. And

841
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: so I think that Trump understands that once your free

842
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: market capitalist system is basically rigged against the only way

843
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: to actually push back against it is you have to

844
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: compete in the system that you are now competing against.

845
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: To then regain control then to tear it down. So

846
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: I know that that's the gamble if Trump were to succeed,

847
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: unless say, it's not Trump right now, it's the Mega

848
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Movement over the course of the next twelve year succeeds

849
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: and truly reshaping the global economy to put back the

850
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: idea of having sovereign nations right that are able to

851
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: do their own thing and coming up with trade agreements

852
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: that keep each other honest, so we don't do the

853
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: forever war thing thereby taking all the power away from

854
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: centralized organizations. We do that. The question is will we

855
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: give up power in twelve years or in twenty years,

856
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: or where those people be corrupted by the power that

857
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: stands before them. And so this is going to be

858
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: this continual back and forth. And I know that I'm

859
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: getting super esoteric and super in the weeds when I

860
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 2: come up with these, but I do want to bring

861
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: it back to the point that when I'm looking at

862
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: the old Republican guard and what I view is this

863
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: new movement of republicanism that I represent, which is this

864
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: understanding that the people at the core of everything are

865
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: who we are fighting for to empower and give them

866
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: back the agency that our constitutional republic demands if we

867
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: are to continue. You need to understand that this is

868
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: the way that I view it. It's not my own

869
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: original idea. And I heard a guy that's a Civil

870
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: war historian that believes that we are entering the Civil

871
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: war period, a new civil war United States, and what

872
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: he described as the sides are a constitutional republic versus

873
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 2: a multicultural democracy. That is the battle that is occurring

874
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: right now. Those that represent the multicultural democracy of the

875
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: United States are the people like Amy klobush Are that

876
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: will say things like Trump is destroying our democracy, and

877
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: she's being like, she's telling the truth. Her viewpoint as

878
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: a multicultural democracy person is under threat. It's under threat

879
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: with the idea of removing illegal aliens from this country

880
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 2: having tariffs, so the global trade stranglehold that these other

881
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: nations have in the United States is pulled back, therefore

882
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: depowering all of these centralized planning systems. That is under

883
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: threat because that's their multicultural democracy that has been created.

884
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: President Trump represents restoring a constitutional republic. Even to the point.

885
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: Of this podcast, Yeah, because we are decentralized Free People Radio,

886
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: We're not part of the mainstream narrative, right, and so

887
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: that's the importance of reposting the links. But you know,

888
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: I don't really view it quite that way. You're just

889
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: going to give you my own little spin on this.

890
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.

891
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 3: You know the Republican Party. When I go to certain places,

892
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: people tell me the brand is ruined.

893
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: It's ruined.

894
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: I hear this, I hear this from Publican Party officers.

895
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 3: You know, I can't think of anything more noble then,

896
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: and this is where you get into it doesn't matter

897
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: what actually happened because some historian has a PhD and

898
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: he was taught or she was taught by a PhD,

899
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: and that PhD was taught by PhD. Going back to

900
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: the way back. They're just peddling a narrative. And the

901
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: narrative that I want to see emerge is is that

902
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: Republicanism that Abraham Lincoln quit the Whig Party because the

903
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: Whigs were in a UNI party with the Democrat. You know, people,

904
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: you know this. The Democrat was the party of slavery. Yeah, right, yep,

905
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: there was a UNI part of the Whigs said hey, hey, hey,

906
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 3: if you help us keep the Catholics and the Jews out,

907
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: well help you keep your slaves it's all good. Let's

908
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 3: keep it together. It's working the power, the institutions, people

909
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: were in power, they were making money, and Lincoln said no, No.

910
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: Slavery is an affront on all these different dimensions. I'm

911
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: starting a new party which is dedicated to human well being,

912
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: human freedom. Okay, what's the difference now? Okay, now we

913
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: have neo slavery.

914
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: We have this.

915
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: I heard somebody say forty million people. Nobody knows the number.

916
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: But we have millions and millions of people in this

917
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: country that are permanent, monetizable underclass that we're brought here,

918
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: not by the mega Republicans, so to speak, but there

919
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: was a lot of Republicans that were in on this

920
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: for business reason.

921
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

922
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: And there's people are here and they want to naturalize them,

923
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: get them the vote. Maybe they already have the vote.

924
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: There's a lawsuit right now from the Trump Justice Department

925
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: here in Minnesota trying to get to the voter rolls.

926
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: Who's on those rolls?

927
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: We have automatic voter registration here, get a driver's license,

928
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 3: you're registered to vote. Now, they're supposed to be guardrails.

929
00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: But you were just talking.

930
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: About not not We won't show what those guardrails are

931
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: to anyone, right right, trust us? Why not?

932
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: We're all Americans, aren't we. But that's another very interesting

933
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: aspect of this is that just like people have this

934
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: faith in free market capitalism or free and fair elections,

935
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 3: we're all Americans. No, we have two competing visions. And

936
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 3: this goes back to the funding of the country. The

937
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: fund of the country. The slave trade was here at

938
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: day one. That's a business model. Free trade. There's no

939
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: more free trade than trading in people. That is the

940
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: sinequon non of free trade. Right people, what's different? They're

941
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: trading in people right now. These people are in all

942
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: of our cities. We've got twenty counties in Minnesota that

943
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: are designated as sanctuary counties. There's some controversy about that.

944
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: I get it, but I'm watching Omar Fata. Omar, very

945
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: interesting character, by the way, came right out in a

946
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: debate with Mayor Fry and said, I'm pushing back on

947
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 3: the Trump administration and we can't be helping the Ice people,

948
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: and I'm here. One of the planks of his candidacy

949
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: is I'm fighting back against Trump. What's Trump doing is

950
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: trying to remove non citizens from our population. So what

951
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 3: is the difference, What is the difference between that war

952
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: in eighteen sixty one in this neo slavery system that's

953
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: being established by Democrats. The monetization of these people is

954
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: so profund. This kind of reminds me of the British.

955
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: You know, Oh, the British ended slavery abolition. You know

956
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: what I think. I think they figured out that chattel

957
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: slavery was very inefficient compared to wage slavery. That's what

958
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: I think. Sure, I'm not going to describe any now,

959
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: I know there was Christians in there, that we're in

960
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: it for the good. Things are mixed. That's what you're saying.

961
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: These things are mixed together.

962
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: It's there. And here's here's I think you made all

963
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: of the very excellent points a couple of things that

964
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of tie into. So when I

965
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: talk about this dynamic in our relationship, even right of

966
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: you'll lay out this is what you believe is happening

967
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: and occurring, and I'll say here's what I believe, and

968
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: we might have some disagreements. Ultimately, when I think about

969
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: the old guard of Republicans and I represent this new guard,

970
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: the thing that I don't want to do because I

971
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: do believe that we need everyone on board. Is that

972
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm still going to try and convert the old God Republicans. Now,

973
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: what I've found in my kind of journey, those that

974
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: finally accept what I'm saying to be true, we'll do

975
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: one of two things. They'll either say, well, I don't

976
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: care right, I'm leaning in and therefore I'm like going

977
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: to leave the Republicans. I'm going to actually join the

978
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Democrats because I heard Vin Weber say that I got

979
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: the receipts. Sure. And then what I've also seen, though,

980
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: are the old Guard Republicans that do have an awakening

981
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: and they're like, I guess again, my intuitions have now changed.

982
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm doing. Maybe I'm doing a bad

983
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: job at it. But the reason I'm able to actually,

984
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: you know, bridge the divide between the old Guard Republicans,

985
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: who I have many friends that I love and care

986
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: about that love and care about me that are still

987
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: in the old Guard. But even though they hear me

988
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: say this, they just intuitively they're not there yet. I'm

989
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: not going to say, well get out of my way,

990
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, anything like that. I'm going to recognize they're

991
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: doing what they're doing, and I'm going to continue to

992
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: preach the message that I'm preaching in a certain sense

993
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: and continue to move forward. And I think that I

994
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: have the people's will on my side. And so at

995
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: the end of the day, maybe this fails. Maybe I'm

996
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: this guinea pig of a study case. Can a new

997
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: Republican America first unabashedly pro Trump that will go around

998
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: and will tell old guard Republicans that they need to

999
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: lean into Trump's values. That's how they actually will win Minnesota,

1000
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: which goes against the conventional wisdom, which goes against you know,

1001
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: former Governor Plenty, which again an affinity wise Polenty was

1002
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: the reason that I stayed in Republican politics. That man

1003
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: to this day. If I were to meet him, I

1004
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: promise you he'll remember who I am, even though I

1005
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 2: haven't talked to him in years. Sam as Senator Norm Coleman.

1006
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: Now they represent the old Guard. I fundamentally don't believe

1007
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 2: that they are bad people. I just think that their

1008
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: intuitions are so misaligned because they believe the old thing.

1009
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: My point is, I'm going to still continue to try

1010
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: and convince these people because I think that they are

1011
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: gettable Now, maybe I'm naive, and I accept that I

1012
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: might be. It's a case by case basis, but that's

1013
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: my position, so I move forward. I will never change

1014
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Okay, unless maybe I'm the wrong that's

1015
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: in the wrong and my intuitions are wrong, but I

1016
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: don't think that they are. I think that the data

1017
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: and everything else is overwhelming. So that's kind of how

1018
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: I move forward. I have, you know, friends that I've

1019
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: made in the new movement that I'm like, continue to

1020
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: go forward, and I don't even advise people. I will

1021
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: never say, hey, you shouldn't go after this person. No,

1022
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 2: go after whoever you want to. Oh, tics, babe, that's

1023
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: what it is. And I'll continue to stand by what

1024
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: I say. Like you said earlier, I'm pro keeping a

1025
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: caucus in state Executive committee. We had a conversation about

1026
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: it and I said, I will do everything in my

1027
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: power to keep us a caucas state. If the Democrats

1028
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: because of the DSA taking over their party.

1029
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: That was right in precarious state. The woman beck, yes,

1030
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: she said this process, but I hear the very same

1031
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: thing on the Republican side. I know these people that

1032
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: are of the old Guard, They kind of view. This

1033
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: is so interesting because both parties, the DSA and MEGA,

1034
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: kind of the same people.

1035
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: And they're against the existing order.

1036
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: There exists corruption in the existing order, and they have

1037
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: different solutions about how they're going to work it out.

1038
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: And I view the Marxist solution is being extraordinarily dark

1039
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: because it does not believe in God or the human soul.

1040
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: And the Republican you know, I just I mean, I'm happy,

1041
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: like I was talking about my liberal friend. You know,

1042
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: if you believe in a human soul and you believe

1043
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: in redemption, you're going to be a Republican. If you don't,

1044
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: you believe that humanity is a monetizable unit. They are

1045
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: two distinctly different philosophies. And I think we can talk

1046
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: to people, and I do I talk. Watch this. How

1047
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: old were you in two thousand?

1048
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: I was sixteen. I was in my forties. Watch this.

1049
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: If you're in this audience and you voted for George W. Bush,

1050
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: raise your hand. I actually did in two thousand and four. Yeah, okay,

1051
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: so we voted for Bush. You know, and I said

1052
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 3: this to you. I don't know if I said it

1053
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: on the podcast or before. You know, this old Guard

1054
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 3: which really holds swear in the party. Still if they win,

1055
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: you know, the endorsement, and they win the primary, because

1056
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: there's going to be primaries, it seems like, you know,

1057
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: unfortunately I'm going to work for these people. I mean,

1058
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: I do view them as being better than a DSA candidate.

1059
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 3: And why do I say a DSA candidate. Well, here's

1060
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: my problem with y'all. And I mean, I'm not going

1061
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: to call you out by name, just in respect that

1062
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: you're friends with AK. Now, look, you could be friends

1063
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 3: with me too. You know you're going to come on here.

1064
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't treat any of those people any differently than

1065
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: I would talk about just like I talked to you,

1066
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: and I wish they would come on.

1067
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: And I've said this to people that have asked me

1068
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Speaker 2: about you, and I say, David Penn is one of

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Speaker 2: the most respectable people that I've ever met, where even

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Speaker 2: off camera, he's like, Hey, let's have a conversation about things.

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Speaker 2: Let's be very meaningful with your time. Whatever you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about. And you would have on anyone, anyone

1073
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: that you've been critical of, you would have them on

1074
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Speaker 2: your podcast and you would be respectful.

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Speaker 3: I would listen to them In fact, I said to

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Speaker 3: Kristin Robbins, I met her husband at the last Central

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Speaker 3: Committee meet. He walked up to me. That was weird,

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Speaker 3: but he was you know, he was brave enough to

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Speaker 3: walk up to me, which I have to respect. And

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Speaker 3: I said, tell Kristen, come on, I said, I'll let

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Speaker 3: her talk for an hour and a half rebut me

1082
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Speaker 3: and if she can convince me. I feel the same

1083
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: way about Adam Schwartzey. I mean, and I tell, and

1084
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Speaker 3: I say this all the time. I don't know these

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Speaker 3: people personally. I don't know their hearts. I am not

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Speaker 3: a judge. What I say is I'm not taking a

1087
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Speaker 3: chance because of the line that goes on in politics.

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Speaker 3: If you worked for globalist organizations, you may have had

1089
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Speaker 3: that epiphany. I voted for George W.

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Speaker 2: Bush.

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Speaker 3: I am a reformed globalist. I believed the exact set

1092
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: of policies and philosophies that that old guard still holds.

1093
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 3: I just had dinner with Norm Coleman two years ago.

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Speaker 3: We sat and talked about Turkey for an hour because

1095
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: he had an agenda about Turkey and about air to one.

1096
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: I've been to Turkey ten times, so you know, it

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Speaker 3: was interesting to talk to him. I see what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: I see what these people are saying. But you know

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Speaker 3: what I really see. I see the suffering in North Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: I see the suffering out in the out state. I

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Speaker 3: see the suffering in my own business. There's no money

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Speaker 3: in the because of that centralized planning. If you're a

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Speaker 3: very pejorative term a small business person, hey, you're under

1104
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Speaker 3: pressure with these interest rates in the way the economy

1105
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Speaker 3: is working. Trump is trying to change that, which I

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Speaker 3: appreciate just on a survival level for my own business,

1107
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Speaker 3: for my own economic future. But I can talk to

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Speaker 3: any of these people. I can talk to leftists, I

1109
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: can talk to socialists. I'll talk to anyone, because, like you,

1110
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Speaker 3: I want to evangelize them and convince them of the

1111
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: beauty of the philosophy of Republicanism. Because who wouldn't want

1112
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Speaker 3: to be the king or queen of their own life

1113
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: if they really understood that that's what we're fighting for.

1114
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 3: Who wouldn't want to respect minority rights? Because I'll tell

1115
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: you there's people in the party that don't want to.

1116
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: And you know those people, the American Nazi parties right

1117
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 3: down the block. Go join it, because we are Republicans.

1118
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: The whole formation of the party was about freeing the slaves,

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Speaker 3: about making American citizens. Don't we all want to be

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Speaker 3: involved in civic life or we want to sit on

1121
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Speaker 3: our phones and watch porn Hub? Come on, which is

1122
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 3: more healthy? You and I have in this dialogue, or

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Speaker 3: we not know each other? And I want to thank

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Speaker 3: you for coming on because in your role, it's quite

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Speaker 3: an extraordinary thing considering how some of these people talk

1126
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Speaker 3: about me. And I'm going to just say this, they

1127
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 3: started it. I joined the party in two thousand and twenty,

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Speaker 3: right after twenty twenty one, right after the election. I

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Speaker 3: came in with full desire to serve the party, full

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Speaker 3: desire to be oiled more Republicans in my district, full

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Speaker 3: desire to elect Republicans, and full of energy. I'm not

1132
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: into chicken wings, I'm not into having beers, and I'm

1133
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Speaker 3: not selling real estate. Okay, I'm into it because I

1134
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Speaker 3: want to win. And when the party realized the elders

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Speaker 3: of the party in my district CD three, who I was,

1136
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 3: that I was really going to bring in more Republicans,

1137
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: they shut me down and I didn't even understand why.

1138
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: And as you said, so appropriately show up at caucus

1139
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: with ten people you own your prisoninc Yep. They don't

1140
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: want that. They don't want Randy Sutter, who's now out

1141
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: of the party, so I mentioned his name.

1142
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Speaker 2: Told me, we don't want any.

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Speaker 3: More Republicans, David stop, we want more work from the

1144
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: Republicans we had, And I didn't understand what he was saying.

1145
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: They don't want to take a risk. And I'm thinking, man,

1146
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: come on now, you're not even getting paid for this job.

1147
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: How can you cling to power when the benefits of

1148
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: power are what? What is the benefit?

1149
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: Like you ak, you're getting paid by the national No,

1150
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: there's no money in it, is there?

1151
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Speaker 2: Nope? And here here's what I'll say too, is you

1152
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: know just because you mentioned Randy Sutter, Randy Sutter and

1153
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: Barb Sutter are two people that I love very very much.

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01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: In regards to the conversation that you had with him

1155
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: about him not wanting more Republicans in the party, I

1156
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: don't know what he meant by that. I knew now

1157
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: unless he specifically said because of X, Y and Z reason,

1158
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: you're taking what he said. And this is what I

1159
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: love about this tension. He said that, right, that's that's

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Speaker 2: what you said he said, and I believe that that's

1161
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: what he said. What did he mean by that? Now

1162
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: you can tell me what you think he meant by it.

1163
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: I can tell you what I think he meant by it. Well,

1164
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: would you police please proceed? I'd like to know if

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01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: I were to guess he doesn't need more chefs in

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01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: the kitchen. Right. We have this thing that we're doing

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01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: that we want to run that we think that we

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01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: have the best strategy of how to win. We don't

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01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: need any more chefs in the kitchen. We definitely need

1170
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: more voters, We need more people to be going out

1171
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: and voting, But when it comes to running this thing,

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01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: we don't need more. And that would be my most

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: generous interpretation because I know that Randy, he and I

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01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: have had a lot of conversations and he supports me.

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Speaker 2: Like again, with all of the things that I've said

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: to you about how I view the world and make

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: America great again and being an unabashed Donald Trump supporter,

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Speaker 2: Randy Sutter supports me and my run for National Committee Man.

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01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: I talked to Randy on a pretty regular basis, and

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Speaker 2: again him and Barby they have told me, Aka, we

1181
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: want you and this is going to sound absurd. We

1182
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: want you to be one day the chair of the

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: RNC me with everything that I've said unabassedly. So that's

1184
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: where to me, there's got to be a disconnect. And

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that. You know, maybe I'm wrong,

1186
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: Maybe this is like forty chests and I'm just not

1187
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: seeing the force of the trees. I accept that, but

1188
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: based off of my interactions, that's what I mean by

1189
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: you take someone and even if they say something, the

1190
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: question is are you interpreting that from the best possible

1191
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: light or the worst possible light. And again I'll say this,

1192
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: the caucus system empowers the people. It creates the lowest

1193
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: possible barrier to entry to being involved in the Republican Party.

1194
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: And there's two positive things that come. Number one, it

1195
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: discourages stagnancy. If you become stagnant in controlling your BPOU

1196
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: and you just get along to get along, go along

1197
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: to get along, you're gonna have a bunch of new

1198
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: people show up that will take over your BPOU. So

1199
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Speaker 2: that means that you better be acting in the best

1200
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: interests of the people that live in your community. So

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: that's like number one. Number two, I actually want to

1202
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: have as many possible people involved in the Republican Party.

1203
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm not worried personally about too many chefs in the kitchen.

1204
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: Have a million chefs, because the best ideas will win out.

1205
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: And I'm like iron sharpens iron, right, So I will

1206
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: never ever support a system that gets rid of the

1207
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: endorsement process and having a low barrier to enter it.

1208
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: I want as many people to show up that can

1209
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: take advantage system. The only guardrails that I want is

1210
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: you have to be able to you I would say,

1211
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: submit to that you will support the Republican Party in

1212
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: this cycle. That's my only caveat. You can't come in

1213
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: as a Democrat to muck up the system. You have

1214
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: to give your support, and if anyone has material evidence

1215
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: that you are actually just here to subvert the system,

1216
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: then I think you should be able to be challenged

1217
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: in your caucus, in your precinct caucuses. So because of that,

1218
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: I also support the endorsement. Whoever we endorse out of

1219
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: our convention, I will support one hundred percent, full throated.

1220
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: I hope that no one challenges for a primary. I

1221
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: know that there's probably going to be people whoever wins

1222
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: the primary at that point, I'm going to support them

1223
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: as well, because ultimately I'm going to support the Republican

1224
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: but I will not back away from whoever endorsed. Canada

1225
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: is supporting them full throated one hundred percent, and that

1226
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 2: to me is like, let me be your anchor that

1227
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 2: not all is lost. I think that you're right, but

1228
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: going out and doing what you do on this podcast

1229
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: is going to actually help change hearts and minds to

1230
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: get more people to be on the side of the people,

1231
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: because ultimately that's what this is all about. I might

1232
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: disagree with like your maybe specific prescriptions or even your

1233
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: diagnosis of certain things, but in general, you get it.

1234
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: You understand that this system, this new system that is

1235
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: arising that is currently in power, this is the Republican

1236
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: Party that currently exists. Within your philosophy. With the philosophy,

1237
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: this is what exists and is basically trying to get

1238
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: everyone else across the country to fall in line and

1239
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 2: to go with it, and those that won't are going

1240
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: to be swept out. That's what's going to happen as

1241
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: long as the people continue to push forward, and I'm

1242
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: going to continue to be an advocate in a voice

1243
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: for that and.

1244
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: Let me just say a relative to Randy Sutter, I

1245
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 3: don't know Barb other than by by face. Brandy and

1246
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 3: Ailes always, always, without exception, work with each other with

1247
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: a great deal of respect. And he was out to

1248
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: solve my legs out from underneath me, because you know

1249
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: I was in the ring with them. But I mean,

1250
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: person to person, I have high regard for him. He

1251
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: was a good antagonist for me because he was respectful.

1252
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: I don't like these people that have just come up

1253
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: and want to fight with me. I know I'm not

1254
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: because I'm not. That's a waste of energy. Sure, And

1255
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 3: there's a system. There's a system there, and it requires constituents.

1256
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: It forces you to become political, which I had no

1257
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 3: real interest in it, and I hope, well, hey, if

1258
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to pursue this, I'm going to have to

1259
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 3: get political. So I can just say to these people,

1260
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 3: and I'll say to you because I'm in CD three

1261
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 3: and I know what's going on in CD three. CD

1262
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: three is a problem for the state of Minnesota. It

1263
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 3: just is because if you want to talk about where

1264
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: the Old Guard lives, it's in CD three and CD six,

1265
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 3: and the idea that's in CD three. I will say

1266
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 3: this as someone that's in the muck and mire with

1267
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 3: these people. They don't support President Trump or any of

1268
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: his agenda. I'm talking about the power structure that exists

1269
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 3: here in the party, in the BPOUS and in the

1270
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: Executive Committee. These are not Trump centric people. And the

1271
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: problem I have with it, you know, everyone needs to

1272
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: pursue their own political agenda, like for me, like you,

1273
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 3: you're a candidate, you're always running. You get along with everybody,

1274
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: shaking hands, easy to get along with, friendly, have nice

1275
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: things to say about everybody, that's very intelligent. We all

1276
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: need to be doing that and reaching out, putting our

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Speaker 3: hands across the aisle. But when it comes to the

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Speaker 3: agenda of CD three, alien it's both the inner city

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Speaker 3: and the outstate. So I'm going to just say, you know,

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Speaker 3: as a national committyman concerned about Minnesota, if we're going

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01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: to have unity, we can't have policies or political directions

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Speaker 3: that run right into the face of where the party's

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Speaker 3: at today. And I'm just calling these people out for

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01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: doing it. I mean, they're doing it. You don't have to.

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Speaker 3: That's why I have a role, and that's what no.

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01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: But that's what these folks don't understand. I'm not going

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 3: to make you out anybody here. I respect what you're doing.

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: You're trying to create a constituency a unity. What did

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 3: I say? Whoever is the endorsed candidate and when's the primary?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to support them. I'm falling right in behind you,

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Speaker 3: which not everybody is going to do, but I am

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Speaker 3: because I have this platform. Kristin Robbins is the endorsed

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Speaker 3: candidate for governor. I'm going to support her with everything

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01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: because who's ever running on the other sides worse than

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 3: her in my opinion. But the role that new media

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01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 3: plays what I believe. We're holding people accountable in shining

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01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: spotlights on what they're doing, which has never happened previously.

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Speaker 3: And since these people are professionals, they might fly a

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Speaker 3: little bit different when everybody's.

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Speaker 2: They don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Oh I wouldn't like it either, But see now, and

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Speaker 3: you you did you notice there was a moment there

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: where everybody was on social media and then they said,

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Speaker 3: wait a sec, we better back this down. Because as

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: soon as you do that, you get the you get

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Speaker 3: the pushback, right, But you know there is a effort

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Speaker 3: in CD three and I'm not here to debate it.

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01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: To go, women's a woman's right to choose, you know,

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Speaker 3: because you know we have a leftist, highly educated uh

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Speaker 3: CD three is where the professionals live, right, So we're

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01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: going to cater to these professionals by saying, Okay, we

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Speaker 3: want this female vote, We're going to soften our pro

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Speaker 3: life stance and platform and constitution.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm cool with.

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Speaker 3: That if that's what emerges through the democratic process.

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Speaker 2: But you go out state and you do that.

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01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 3: For every suburban female vote you'd pick up, you're gonna

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01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: lose ten Christians out state. There's a very big effort

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Speaker 3: here this I will name names on to address gun rights.

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Speaker 3: In fact, that same dude, Randy Sutter, told me at

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 3: a breakfast. In fact, I went into the breakfast and

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01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: my confederate, Dave Kylo said to me, don't say anything me,

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01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: just get along. I said, no problem, I'm a businessman.

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 3: And Randy said, what we need to run on is

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Speaker 3: gun control. And Kylo turned red and went crazy, and

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Speaker 3: I watched it. I mean, now it's here, say to you,

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01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 3: but to me, it's my memory. And Randy's ex military,

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01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he knows how to use a gun, I think.

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Speaker 3: So what we're doing here in CD three is in

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: stark contradiction to what's going on in other communities. And

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to say to you, as the leader

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: of the band, get that baton out and start making

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01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: beautiful music. Because if we're going to have unity, it's

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01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 3: got to be real unity. So when you say people

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: are going to get swept away, I got a broom

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Speaker 3: in my hands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, here's what I want to say, And

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Speaker 2: I think it's important to clarify this is that my

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01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: objective as the Republican National Committee man is to be

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01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: able to help Minnesota Republicans win, right, And I understand

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01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: that all of the things that I believe, I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to change it from congressional district to congression district.

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Speaker 2: When I go and I talk to people. However, I

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01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: will acknowledge and accept that at the end of the day,

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: the people that live in the areas are going to

1346
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:58,480
Speaker 2: want different sets of values to be represented. It's unequivocal

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: when you look across eighty three read of who the

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01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: elected Republicans are, and you were to look at all

1349
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: of the positions and where they stand on everything that

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: they are not going to align with someone that's from

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: city seven deep in Aking County. It's just you're not

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: going to find the same alignment. And I believe that,

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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 2: again is part of our representative democracy and constitutional republic system,

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01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 2: that different people from different areas have different needs and wants.

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Speaker 2: But the one thing that I will continue to say

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: is the reason why I go out and talk to

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Speaker 2: people is I do believe that people can be converted.

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Speaker 2: Now Randy Sidter saying that he wants to run on

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Speaker 2: gun control, I would be curious about, well, what does

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Speaker 2: that mean? I am, and I think I probably will

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Speaker 2: and like say, for me, I will and say, well,

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Speaker 2: what specifically and what he might end up saying could

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 2: be vastly different. It could be like, oh, yeah, I

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01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: hate Second Amendment, and then I'd be okay, fair enough.

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 2: Now Randy tells me he hates second Moment, or he's like, well,

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Speaker 2: here's what I meant by it. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: I want gun control. I'm just saying, like, these specific

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Speaker 2: issues which are deemed to be gun control, I think

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Speaker 2: are reasonable or whatever it might be. Because I still

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Speaker 2: think that reasonable people can disagree on things. I am,

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Speaker 2: and I've said it out loud multiple times. I believe

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Speaker 2: that every American who is not mentally unwell should own

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Speaker 2: a firearm and carry it every single day. That's what

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Speaker 2: I love, That's what I would love. I think that

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Speaker 2: we should have a constitutional carry across the entire United States.

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Speaker 2: That's what I believe. I don't believe there should be

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Speaker 2: restrictions on type of firearms on magazine capacities. But I

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01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: understand that if I'm running for office and I say

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Speaker 2: that because of the narrative having so much control in

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: the Twin Cities legacy media that is not dead yet,

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01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: it's dying, and I hope we can hasten its death,

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01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: you will lose everywhere in CD three because that's not

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Speaker 2: the narrative that the people actually believe. The people in

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Speaker 2: CD three right now believe that there should be gun control.

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Speaker 2: That's the narrative that has taken hold. Now for the

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Speaker 2: people to go and change that. I'm going to always

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Speaker 2: advocate for that, and I think, as you alluded to

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Speaker 2: new media, inependent media, how we change that. But you

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01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: just can't run on that same otherwise you will lose everything.

1390
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Speaker 2: And maybe you know there's an argument about okay, if

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01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 2: you lose, but you stand on your principles and your values.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I fundamentally think that there are

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Speaker 2: people that are from these congressional districts that they believe

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Speaker 2: it because the narrative has taken such hold. So I

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: think we have to change the naw.

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Speaker 3: This is such an interesting place and I'm not trying

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: to pin into a corner. Yeah, yeah, but if you

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Speaker 3: think about what's been going on in the Star Tribute

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 3: article which featured Polente and Fenton and Weber Coleman, and

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Speaker 3: then this I can't remember the guy's name. He was

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Speaker 3: involved in the Polenty campaign. He was just on a

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Speaker 3: video that was Ian McClung. Maybe, yes, yeah, he owns

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01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 3: a pr company. Yeah, there's fifteen minutes. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it was KSTP or Caro Leven. They're saying the

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01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: exact same thing that you just said, only they're saying

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01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 3: it about the Trump movement.

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Speaker 2: What they're saying you.

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01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,480
Speaker 3: Just said, Hey, you know, if you're going to see

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: and you're going to stand on the principle of what

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: you just said, which if you ever want to run,

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: probably should clip that out.

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Speaker 2: Because somebody's going to find that. No yeah, but that's

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: why I feel I'm called to do what I'm doing. No,

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Speaker 2: I get it, and if I run, I will stand

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01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: by everything of everything.

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Speaker 3: But what you just said was and I just I've

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01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: been saying this, and I was talking to Representative Weiener

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01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 3: about this, that every American citizen should get gun training

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01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: in high school. And it was really weird because Tim

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01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: Christopher and I had lunch as I was saying, and

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 3: he talks about gun issues because this community is so

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01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 3: hammered by this, and I didn't know what he meant

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01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 3: when I asked him, and he said, well, my problem

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01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 3: with you know, Brian Strausser, is they could come right

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01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: into my community and teach people. His idea about guns

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01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 3: is gun training would be an opportunity to teach people

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01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: thou shalt not kill. Sure, it's beautiful, beautiful idea. I

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01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 3: mean that is, it's so beautiful. But this thing you

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: just said that if you're in CD three and you're

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01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: going to run on a no limits on magazines, no

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01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: limits on the type of firearm, you're gonna lose, you're

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01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: gonna lose. That's exactly what they were saying in the

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 3: Star Tribune. If you're a mega candidate you can't win statewide?

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Speaker 3: Why because they believe Trump lost two times three times? Yeah,

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: state wide. But if you look at the map of

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01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: Minnesota by county and I'm I mean, you're a Republican

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01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: Party officer, and so am I yep, I don't think

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01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 3: we had anything to do with it. If you look

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01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 3: at the map from twenty twelve through twenty twenty four,

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01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 3: it gets progressively more Republican.

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Speaker 2: Part of my speech that I just had the other

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01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: day and I showed actually how much redder the state

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 2: has got. And then specifically Trump in twenty twenty four

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01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: only last nine out of the eighty seven counties here

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Speaker 2: in Minnesota, just nine of them. You know that ninety

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01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: one percent of the voters in any county voted. Yeah,

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01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: I know. Wow. So like there's multiple layers to it,

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: but I will say this that the argument that I

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01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: have of what things we can do to be able

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01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 2: to actually flip the state one again, embrace the values

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01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: that Trump represents. Let's talk about what are those values.

1452
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: Let's break it down. We break that down we can.

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 2: The easiest way is just literally at the points bullet points. Yeah, yeah,

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01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 2: Agenda forty seven, right, was President Trump's platform. That's what

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 2: he called the agenda forty seven twenty bullet points that

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01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: the RNC at our convention as delegates adopted as the

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01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 2: party's platform. So right now, if you go to gop

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Speaker 2: dot com, gop dot org and you look at the

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01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: party's platform, those are President Trump's twenty campaign issues, and

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that the Republicans just need to follow those

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01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: because President Trump won the popular vote. He won the

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01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 2: largest percentage of non traditional, non white voters that came

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01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: over to the Republican side than any Republican has won

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Speaker 2: going back past Reagan. Okay, and so to me, I

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01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 2: do understand to the point that the way that the

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Speaker 2: media narrative has captured Minnesota today right now, Trump isn't

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01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: going to win an election today. Okay, if Trump was,

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 2: if you can redo all the election and today an

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01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: election was held with everything that we know to be true,

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01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: that's not going to change. But we have to change

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01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: that by helping hasten the death of the legacy media

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01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: and using independent and new media so people can understand

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01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: that these issues are Trump issues that they already support.

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Speaker 2: And so this is my overall point when I think

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01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: about accepting the reality that we have to be able

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01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: to change the perspective give of the average Minnesotan voter

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01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: to get them to see the truth, which was able

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01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: to be done in other states. That's why Trump won

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: every swing state is because they were able to engage

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01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: both disenfranchise or disengaged voters and low propensity voters Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: That didn't happen at the same clip. We were not

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01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: as effective. By using new media and ensuring election integrity,

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01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: all of these things work together and that creates this

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01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: perfect formula that can actually sway over these disaffected voters

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: and low propensity and that cuts across all different categories.

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Speaker 2: It's not just going to be white, rural, suburban voters.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be black voters, Hispanic voters, Asian voters,

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01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: across all different swaths, mostly working class. That's the formula.

1489
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: But you have to recognize that if you just go

1490
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: out and say Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, everyone's already tuned out,

1491
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: like not tuned out, but they are. They've been brain

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01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,839
Speaker 2: that Trump is bad. So that's why you take the

1493
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 2: policy issues, use new media, knocking on doors, disaffected, low

1494
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: propensity voters, getting them the information that this is what

1495
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: you know these are the policies and the issues that

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01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: we are going to work on as a as a

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01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: state to make better. That's how you win. So what

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01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: I've my argument is don't lean anti Trump because you

1499
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: are reinforcing the narrative. Instead, the harder work to do

1500
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: is to recapture the narrative, reframe the narrative by a

1501
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: policy issue basis, and then people will come to the conclusion, Oh,

1502
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: this is this is all Trump's stuff. But right now

1503
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: there's an intuitive rejection, a flair like intuition in this state,

1504
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: in this state in CD three, CD two, CD four,

1505
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: CD five, that Trump is a bad guy CD one.

1506
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: You know, seven six eight. They love Trump, that's why

1507
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 2: he's crushing it out there. So that to me is

1508
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 2: all part of this walking and chewing gum. And at

1509
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I'm not a candidate, man,

1510
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: I'm just a dude with the RNC that has social

1511
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: media following. And I'll tell anyone that will listen, this

1512
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: is what I think we should do. I hope that

1513
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: candidates really start to pick up on this and as

1514
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: they go out there, as I've had these conversations. As

1515
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 2: an example, we've called out our name numerous times, and

1516
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: I'll call it a couple of other when I gave

1517
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: this basically presentation where I'm telling you the things I'm

1518
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:32,839
Speaker 2: telling you now, Kendall Qualls was in the audience. Ron Shoots,

1519
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: the new Attorney general announced candidate, was in the audience.

1520
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 2: Kristin Robbins was in the audience. Philip Parrish was in

1521
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: the audience. So these people heard me say this. Now,

1522
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 2: maybe they disagreed with everything I said, but this is

1523
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: what I said. So I will continue to stand by that.

1524
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: But I will again, I'm not trying to defend Brian

1525
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 2: McClung or anyone that goes out there that says Trump

1526
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 2: can't win, because they're not wrong. The thing that I

1527
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: would challenge them to do is to get rid of

1528
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: the idea that you know, Trump is a is a

1529
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: you know, anything associated with Trump policies.

1530
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 3: You want, you want, you want, you want to focus

1531
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 3: on the twenty policy.

1532
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: I want to focus on the policy plant and on

1533
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: top of that, make sure that we understand that fraud

1534
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: is this open door if we can just attach you know,

1535
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: the Democrats to this fraud narrative and then throw them

1536
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: overboard with that rock the back.

1537
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 3: But let me let me just say, and I do

1538
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 3: want to say this, going back to the Randy issue,

1539
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: there's forty one hundred precincts in Minnesota. Yeah, you talked

1540
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: about the low propensity voter.

1541
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: Yep.

1542
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 3: Now see this is where I'm coming from. I am

1543
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 3: not into pines and politics. I think the bpo us

1544
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: take the most interested and motivated people and aggregate them

1545
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 3: in the committees. And I know this from CD three

1546
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 3: because I'm really tied in down here. You know, there's

1547
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 3: nothing going on at the precinct level in CD three nothing,

1548
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 3: there's nobody. Okay, Now we're getting honest about tactics and strategy.

1549
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1550
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 3: See this is about women as Republicans, not necessarily mega

1551
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 3: Republican Republicans or silk stocking country club free trade Republicans. No, no, no, no,

1552
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 3: this is about Republicanism. Every precinct needs a precinct chair.

1553
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 3: How we going to get those people out to vote

1554
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: if nobody's talking to them? So I have a you know,

1555
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: when Randy says we don't need any more Republicans, what

1556
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: was I trying to do? Find people, activate them and

1557
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 3: make them work in their precincts. I'm not trying to

1558
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 3: tip over the Republican Party. I want somebody in every

1559
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 3: precinct that knows every we got the data, who cares

1560
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 3: the day. Hey, you can't even use it because there's

1561
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 3: nobody there to do the deal. I want the party

1562
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 3: to be that built out. I want us to love

1563
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 3: our country that much and freedom that much, in faith

1564
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 3: that much that we're willing to devote ourselves to our neighborhoods.

1565
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:08,440
Speaker 3: And I'm doing it. I got ten names in my precinct.

1566
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm calling them. I'm taking every one of them out

1567
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 3: for coffee. I got three months still caucus November, December, January.

1568
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 3: And if they don't want to participate, okay, I'm still

1569
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 3: going to caucus if I can bring ten people with me.

1570
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 3: I own my caucus room, right, and that's what we

1571
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 3: need to And then those ten people, I want to

1572
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 3: organize them and identify every low propensity voter in W

1573
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 3: three PB and when the time comes to vote, I

1574
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 3: want to pick up those old people and driv into

1575
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 3: the polls.

1576
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,839
Speaker 2: They're doing it. Do they do that on the Democrats?

1577
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

1578
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Now they focus all their attention on the most

1579
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: population dense areas, which is obviously their strategy, that has

1580
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: been as effective as it is. I do joke, but

1581
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: if there's a realness to it. Election integrity is a

1582
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 2: serious problem in Minnesota, and it's mostly a serious problem

1583
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 2: when you're looking at urban core right. That's where to me,

1584
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: the most fraud is occurring, and it's been occurring there.

1585
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: I remember the story is anecdotal going back to two

1586
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 2: thousand and six. As a college Republican, I lived in Oakdale,

1587
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: but I commuted every day to go to the u

1588
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: of M Minneapolis, and there would be vans pulling up

1589
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: with homeless people to vote.

1590
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 3: Can I bring a receipt to you? I'm bringing your

1591
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 3: receipt right now. I don't dislike Randy Sutter, but when

1592
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: I came into the party in twenty one, I started

1593
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 3: something called the Master Class.

1594
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 2: You maybe have heard of it. I was my way

1595
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: to have a community outreach. We did it.

1596
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 3: That was out of Central Middle School and we started

1597
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: getting one hundred hundred and fifty people on Saturday mornings.

1598
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 3: Kristin Robbins, so I invited her to come talk one morning.

1599
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: Dave Kylo my political mentor. Do you know Dave, I

1600
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 3: don't okay introduce you sometimes? Good dude, I said I'm

1601
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 3: going to do this because I was a vice chair

1602
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 3: in his committee. It was the old st forty two.

1603
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 3: I said, I'm doing this. He said, no, you're not.

1604
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 3: Said you're a Republican Party officer. You have a fiduciary responsibility.

1605
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 3: Be a player. Go to Randy Sutter, make a presentation

1606
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 3: at the Executive Committee. Get the support of the Executive Committee.

1607
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 3: Otherwise I'm not going to support it. That's a guy

1608
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 3: that believes in party, right. So I did that. I

1609
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 3: went present it. Randy said you can do this on

1610
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 3: two conditions. Number one, you pay for it. I'm not

1611
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 3: putting a penny in. Number Two, you must commit to me.

1612
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 3: This is twenty one. You must commit to me personally

1613
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,799
Speaker 3: and promise me that you will never talk about election

1614
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 3: integrity issues. You can ask him about that one too.

1615
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. So here's what it comes down to, right. I

1616
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: believe that Randy, as good as his intentions are, he

1617
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 2: has bought the narrative. This is a lot of Republicans

1618
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 2: still in the state of Minnesota, again from the old guard,

1619
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 2: especially back then, that twenty twenty was a safe and

1620
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 2: secure election, one of the most whatever, especially at that time. Now,

1621
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 2: to be fair, if you fast forward in time and

1622
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 2: you understand that the RNC today has a permanent election

1623
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: integrity like a Standing Committee on Election Integrity, and that

1624
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: they are suing all across this country to be able

1625
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: to make sure that you have to produce a photo

1626
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 2: ID and proof of citizenship. Things have changed in the

1627
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 2: Republican Party. So for whatever defense that is to Randy,

1628
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 2: but my point is why did they change AKA through

1629
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 2: activists like me yes, yes, yes, correct started portion yes

1630
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 2: and shout out and respect to people like you that

1631
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,480
Speaker 2: took all the slings and arrows for being called an apostate,

1632
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: and how dare you challenge you know, the American system

1633
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 2: of elections. I haven't thought of that. I haven't lived

1634
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: that down yet, right and listen, I I'll be completely honest.

1635
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: That narrative really irked me in twenty twenty after President

1636
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 2: Trump lost right that election, I was like, okay, adjudicate

1637
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: these things. And my my biggest problem was that Democrats

1638
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 2: weren't allowing these election issues to actually be adjudicated. The

1639
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 2: line that they kept on using is that Trump has

1640
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 2: went to court whatever sixty sometimes and sixty sometimes, that

1641
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: the court has thrown it out. So that means that

1642
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 2: the court, you know, this has been adjudicated. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

1643
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 2: None of those cases ever went once to even discovery.

1644
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 2: There were things, let alone correct, So that is BS,

1645
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: but that narrative did take hold, and I disagreed with it. Now.

1646
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 2: The thing that I saw, and this is why I

1647
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 2: say I'm gonna call my own self out, that was

1648
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: I was like, guys, when we keep on saying that

1649
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: the elections were, you know, all the fraud that happened,

1650
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 2: we are going to disiny franchise our voters. So even

1651
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 2: though I agree with you, if we go out saying this,

1652
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: people aren't going to vote because we're not in power.

1653
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 2: Trump is not in the in the White House, and

1654
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: because he's not in the White House, we have no

1655
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 2: solution to fixing election integrity from a national level. And

1656
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 2: because of that, if we talk about election integrity, we

1657
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: will disenfranchise more voters, which means that in twenty twenty two,

1658
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna even have less Republicans show up for our

1659
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 2: law and law. And how prescient were those comments? I know,

1660
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 2: I know, but ultimately I still think that the better

1661
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,759
Speaker 2: strategy would have been And this is where I'm at now,

1662
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 2: and where I have been and where I will continue

1663
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,879
Speaker 2: to be is we have to talk about election integrity

1664
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,480
Speaker 2: but provide solutions. So what are one of the solutions.

1665
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 2: With election integrity being part of the rnc's national program,

1666
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 2: we are again every election cycle saying we need people

1667
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 2: out in precincts, at the precinct level. That's what I

1668
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: just said, just watching being someone that can communicate if you.

1669
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 3: Have nobody, if you don't have enough Republicans. See, this

1670
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 3: is why I respect Randy, but I deeply disagree whatever

1671
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 3: his reasons were. Sure, we need Republicans going to every

1672
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: school board meeting, every county commissioner meeting. Agreed, we need

1673
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 3: election judges, we need we need theirs.

1674
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 2: Who's watching the.

1675
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 3: Judicial races nobody. I'll propose to what you just said

1676
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 3: about sixty cases going down because of judges. You know,

1677
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 3: we're under we're understaffed, and we're undermanned and underwomaned. We

1678
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 3: need more people, more hands on deck, right, Because what

1679
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 3: you're saying is twenty six is not in the bag. Nope,

1680
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 3: twenty eight is not in the butt bag. So what

1681
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do, what we're trying to do here

1682
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 3: in the podcast and thank you for coming on. We're

1683
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 3: trying to motivate people, and it's hell on my audience

1684
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 3: because you know, I'm kind of banging on them. Yeah, like,

1685
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 3: what are you just here for entertainment? Should I tell

1686
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,759
Speaker 3: more jokes? You want me to do a little soft shoe?

1687
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 3: You know what we're talking about that? Tanna and I

1688
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 3: were talking about it on Sunday more music. Maybe go

1689
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 3: to Rumble where we can be freer, you know, but

1690
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 3: we need people to put down whatever their excuse is

1691
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 3: to stand up. You either want a republican form of

1692
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 3: governance or you want a multicultural democracy. Now what is

1693
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 3: the difference of this? You know, when you don't believe

1694
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 3: in God and there is no sin, then human nature

1695
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 3: is a monetizable strategy. So we're going to legalize gambling.

1696
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 3: Now there's always been gambling. I'm not saying people aren't

1697
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 3: going to gain, but when you legalize it, you've turned

1698
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 3: evil into good. You've monetized it. And we go right

1699
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 3: on down the list of things that are sinful. Well,

1700
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 3: what does sin do? Sin means separations, the separation from

1701
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 3: man and God. So you're going to make all this

1702
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 3: sin legal to monetize it, and then they're going to say,

1703
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 3: but there is no God. Well, of course not. You've

1704
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: stuck some gunk in the works. Of course you're not

1705
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 3: going to hear the voice of the Most High God

1706
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: if you're given over to gambling as an addiction, or

1707
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 3: given over to drugs as an addiction, or given over

1708
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,759
Speaker 3: to porn as an addiction, or given over to whatever

1709
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 3: your thing is over here, eating poorly for example, Maha

1710
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 3: for example.

1711
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 2: So I mean, these are very stark.

1712
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 3: One of the great things about getting things to the

1713
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 3: moment of criticality like they are right now, it starts

1714
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 3: to get very clear what's going on. It's clear so

1715
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 3: apropos to what you said. And I say this because

1716
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 3: people are going to listen to you. They follow you

1717
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 3: if you're in that. I'd love it if Tom Ammer

1718
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 3: would come on here. You know, I met Tom Emmer

1719
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 3: and I thought, to miss up, this is the best

1720
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 3: politician I've ic. This guy is fantastic, and I'm watching

1721
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 3: what he's doing supporting the Trump movement. You know, I

1722
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: had a very different attitude about Tom Emmer. And if

1723
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Tom hears this, I want him to hear this. That's

1724
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 3: why I'm saying it. I went down to CD six.

1725
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 3: You know Patricia Williamson, she had she had a softball

1726
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 3: game down there. She's trying to be cute. It was

1727
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 3: the you know, it was these two wings.

1728
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Was like rhinos, loons, loans and rhinos.

1729
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 3: So I went down to this thing and and I

1730
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 3: called Patricia, because you know, I was going to go

1731
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 3: down with Royce. I said, Patricia, do you have any

1732
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 3: security for this thing? And she said, no, you don't

1733
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 3: have to worry about it. There's a a gay parade

1734
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 3: in this town, and there's something else going on in

1735
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 3: that town. And I said, wow, that's a lot of

1736
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 3: organizations in CD six. And I went down to the

1737
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 3: American some pack down there run by Vick Ernst. They

1738
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 3: had a governor's forum. There was more protesters at that

1739
01:36:54,880 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 3: forum than there were Republicans. And I realized how much

1740
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 3: effort is being made to unt see Tom Emmer. So

1741
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 3: here I am banging on him constantly because I wanted

1742
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,640
Speaker 3: to be honest all the time with the people. And

1743
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 3: I realized that he's in a role sometimes where he

1744
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 3: can't tell the truth, which.

1745
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

1746
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that presumption. But I realize all

1747
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 3: these resources, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars

1748
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 3: is being poured into CD six to get rid of him.

1749
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,839
Speaker 3: That that was an awakening for me about how intense

1750
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 3: this political game is and how much we need unity.

1751
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 3: And I want to say, and this isn't going to

1752
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 3: make Jake happy. And they listen, they're pissed at me

1753
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 3: because I have Walter Hudson on here.

1754
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 2: Probably I don't know how they feel about me. They

1755
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 2: haven't came after me. I saw Eric Mortinson at State Central.

1756
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: He came up. He was like, he asked me if

1757
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: I came to their booth. They're in the State Fair

1758
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: wearing a Trump mask. I don't know why he asked that.

1759
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 2: I was like, this strange question, and I was like no.

1760
01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, but you guys like you

1761
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 2: guys crushed it. You know, good job, and he shook

1762
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 2: my hand or whatever. But he's never They've never asked

1763
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 2: me to be on their podcast. I don't have a

1764
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,759
Speaker 2: problem going to the podcast. I will be very candid

1765
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 2: with the things that I disagree with their strategy of

1766
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 2: what Action for Liberty does. But ultimately, yeah, whether it's

1767
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 2: having me on this show or Walter Hudson, I don't

1768
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 2: know which one they dislike. I think it's Walter because

1769
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: they've actually came out against him. They've never really came

1770
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: out against me, so maybe they're cool with me. I

1771
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 2: just don't like some of their strategies in the TEXTA.

1772
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: But sorry to get back to your point about the

1773
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 2: attack and the onslaught that that looks like it's coming

1774
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 2: for Tom is kind of an interesting way of looking

1775
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 2: at it. Because President Trump trust Tom Emmer. I'm telling

1776
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 2: you right now, if President Trump said remove Tom Emmer

1777
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 2: from this position of being majority Whip, Tom Emmer would

1778
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 2: not be the majority Whip. That's just the way that

1779
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:57,759
Speaker 2: it is now. People can disagree with why President Trump

1780
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 2: makes the decisions that he does, and we have understand

1781
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 2: that when you're the president of the United States, there's

1782
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 2: a lot of things you're taken care of, so you

1783
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 2: might defer certain actions to those that are in your

1784
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 2: inner circle, your staff. And so maybe it's not that

1785
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 2: President Trump wants, you know, Tom Emmer to be where

1786
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 2: he is. I think he does. I think that originally

1787
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 2: he didn't care, he didn't know Tom. Why would he

1788
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: take the time to know him? Because he said as much.

1789
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 2: Remember he torpedoed Tom being Speaker of the House. Yeah, no,

1790
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm not. Everybody knows who everybody is, ok. But he

1791
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:33,879
Speaker 2: torpedoed it. And then I think Tom had a position

1792
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 2: where he could have leaned into being like a Don

1793
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 2: Bacon type that would go against what President Trump wants

1794
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 2: or saying you know what, I need to do better

1795
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 2: at getting to know President Trump. And now he's been

1796
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 2: one of the most vocal advocates for getting the Trump

1797
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 2: Agenda passed, and I think that he's done a great

1798
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 2: job by doing that. And again I'll say this, I

1799
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: have no problem if you want to critique whoever you

1800
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 2: want to critique. I'm not a person that says you

1801
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: can't say negative things about Tom emer or President Trump.

1802
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 2: You can. I think that you do it at your

1803
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 2: own you know, understanding that you're going to alienate people,

1804
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 2: you might close doors. That's not my strategy. But if

1805
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 2: you want to more power to you, My strategy is this.

1806
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not saying no, no, I'm saying these specifically.

1807
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 2: My idea is is that when the citizens engage and

1808
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: make their feelings known. I mean, I'm not saying I'm

1809
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 2: moving the needle, but if there's a collective push. I

1810
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 2: think a prudent politician listens to his constituents, and that's

1811
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,560
Speaker 2: what it is to be in a representative democracy or

1812
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 2: representative republic, democratic republic where we're making our will. Felt.

1813
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 3: You know President Trump is supporting Lindsey Graham. I know, man,

1814
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I know. So here's how I

1815
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 3: look at it. No, whatever the truth is, I have

1816
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 3: no idea, and I say this, and I'm intel to

1817
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:55,799
Speaker 3: make up my own story. Of course, you're a coach.

1818
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 3: You play with the players that show up to play

1819
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 3: the game. So if somebody urged in South Carolina that

1820
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 3: could beat Lindsay Graham, I don't think President Trump would

1821
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 3: be unhappy to have a more mega. He knows who

1822
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 3: Lindsey Graham is. Yeah, he knows Tom Ammer's history, he

1823
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 3: knows Kristin Robbins history. I know they know, because I've

1824
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 3: been told they know. You know what we're seeking, and

1825
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 3: I think President Trump is doing the same thing. He's

1826
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 3: got a policy position twenty positions that we can go

1827
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 3: see at the What are those two handles for those

1828
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 3: two websitesyeh.

1829
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 2: So Agenda forty seven and then just go to GOP

1830
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 2: dot com, GOP dot org, and just look at the

1831
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: party's platform.

1832
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 3: I think that's a great idea of Tanner's writing that down,

1833
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 3: because that's going to go into the description of the podcast.

1834
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 3: And why wouldn't we all as Republicans like to know

1835
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:46,799
Speaker 3: what it is we believe.

1836
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, it's kind of important, and it was

1837
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 2: controversial when we were at the RNC convention because President

1838
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: Trump's team said, listen, we're just gonna make this super simple.

1839
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 2: What is the Republican Party of the NIE says believe

1840
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 2: we believe what Trump believes, right, and if we are

1841
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 2: blowing off when we don't have Trump, then we can

1842
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: make a different decision about what that looks like. But this,

1843
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 2: to me is so important to be able to understand that.

1844
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 2: This is why as a party playing these games where

1845
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 2: we somehow don't try and embrace Trump, even if maybe

1846
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 2: you don't do it in name, because again this an intuition,

1847
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 2: intuitive flair. Discuss that happens with these people in Minnesota.

1848
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 2: But this is our party. There's no way to sidestep it.

1849
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 2: This is the policy of the people. This is a

1850
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 2: policy of the people. The people that supported President Trump

1851
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 2: wildly winning the popular vote. This is the mandate of

1852
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: the people, and we as a Republican Party as an apparatus,

1853
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 2: need to embrace and accept that. Now we can find

1854
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 2: our own ways to massage it to make it work

1855
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 2: for our districts. But running away from it is the

1856
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 2: dumbest thing that you can do.

1857
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 3: That would be like Kathy Folk here in SD forty

1858
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 3: five refused to endorse President Trump in the last cycle.

1859
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got problems, Okay, we just do have

1860
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 3: some problems. And what I'm calling these people out for

1861
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 3: is it's not about Trump. It's about the policies. I mean, see,

1862
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm not interested. I mean, if people love Trump, I'm

1863
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 3: okay with that. Sure, I'm an idea guy. I'm interested

1864
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 3: in the policies that we're pursuing. I'm interested in economic

1865
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: populism because I know it can provide a better life

1866
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 3: for young I have six kids, I mean, I got them.

1867
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean they're screwed. They don't have nearly the chance

1868
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 3: to get over like I did. They're struggling financially. So

1869
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 3: the economic populism, the idea of having a secure election system.

1870
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to look at this and I go, come on, really,

1871
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 3: we're really going to say black people are too stupid

1872
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 3: to go get a card that says they can vote.

1873
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 3: It's so racist, it's absurd, it's insulting. You know, some

1874
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 3: of these things are so easily solved. Why aren't they solved?

1875
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 3: Because there's huge industries on each side of that football

1876
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 3: raising money off of the problem. Agreed, And that's why

1877
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 3: Trump is such an interesting character. We're watching him hate

1878
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 3: him or not. He's trying to solve he is, I mean,

1879
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 3: he's you know, he's really trying to bring We might

1880
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 3: not like his solution, but he's actually getting up every

1881
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,919
Speaker 3: day and saying, what problem can I end today?

1882
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 2: Yeah? And so here's what I will say is that

1883
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 2: at the beginning, I used to think that it was just,

1884
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:35,879
Speaker 2: you know, Trump represents something and it's this this pushback

1885
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:41,719
Speaker 2: against the existing order. And that's very jarring, right anytime

1886
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 2: someone is pushing back against the current order. But once

1887
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: you accept that the current order is broken and failing,

1888
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 2: and how we land or what we do, you know,

1889
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 2: is there still a possibility that we don't even have

1890
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 2: a soft fail, that we have a transition and so

1891
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 2: we don't even have to fail. Maybe maybe there's that,

1892
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 2: or maybe whatever it looks like. But now I'm actually

1893
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,719
Speaker 2: of the belief that President Trump, if he's not able

1894
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 2: to succeed like that, I think the midterms is going

1895
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 2: to be the true test. Are we going to transition

1896
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 2: or are we going to fail? And if we fail,

1897
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 2: you can just roll out. Here's all of the things

1898
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 2: that the existing order is going to double down on.

1899
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 2: They are going to re solidify to a point their

1900
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 2: central control that it will be impossible to break. And

1901
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 2: what is the lynchpin of that central control. A lot

1902
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: of it's going to be digital, ID digital and and

1903
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 2: to me, the overall control of people. That's that to

1904
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Speaker 2: me is the reaffirming of that that. Now this Now

1905
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Speaker 2: we've got a few minutes left. So this has been

1906
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 2: a long drum roll. And this is going to tell

1907
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,560
Speaker 2: you why I'm so hard on some of these professional politicians,

1908
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 2: because see, if you're in the professional lane, and that's

1909
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,560
Speaker 2: your business, and you're going to have to in some

1910
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 2: because President Trump is doing it too. I mean, otherwise

1911
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Speaker 2: I don't think he would support time Emmer because of

1912
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Speaker 2: the history. Sure, but you can't be that well, you

1913
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Speaker 2: can't be a.

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Speaker 3: Successful politician and just take powerful people and just because

1915
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Speaker 3: they said something fifty times or one hundred and fifty times.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at Lindsey Graham. I mean, Lindsay Graham.

1918
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Speaker 3: Let's not talk about I mean, and I said that

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Speaker 3: with great respect. I mean going down to CD six

1920
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Speaker 3: and seeing what Emmer's facing, the hatred that these people

1921
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Speaker 3: have for him, that was very jarring for me. I

1922
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 3: wasn't embarrassed about me calling him out on the debt

1923
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Speaker 3: ceiling bill, but it makes me really want to support

1924
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Speaker 3: Patiia Williams's efforts in CDs six and in Carver County

1925
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Speaker 3: because it's important. That's the house, that's the number three

1926
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Speaker 3: dude in the whole program, right. But what scares me

1927
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 3: about the professionals, because they are in the professional lane.

1928
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 3: That digital ID thing is right there, It's right on

1929
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Speaker 3: the cusp. I read the Federal Register. They're ready to

1930
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 3: roll this stuff out because the institutional entropy them in

1931
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 3: the mountain just keeps going forward. The glacier just keeps moving,

1932
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:25,759
Speaker 3: and we're moving towards this digital control grid, which really

1933
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 3: is the end of the republic, and it's the end

1934
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Speaker 3: of individual sovereignty. And I want you know, you know

1935
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Speaker 3: you're for free trade. Great, come out and say you're

1936
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Speaker 3: against digital ID. I'll pay attention to you. But those

1937
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 3: things go together. World governance, one world economy, one way

1938
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 3: to control the people. So everything works smooth. And I'll

1939
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 3: tell you there's a great YouTube video you can go

1940
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 3: get it. Put in Herman Kahn, who is doctor Strangelove

1941
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 3: in the Hudson Institute in nineteen sixty four, and he's

1942
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 3: on there talking about krit creating this. They've been working

1943
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Speaker 3: on this for decades. Yeah, and here we are and

1944
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Speaker 3: you see it rolling out. So I mean, it is

1945
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Speaker 3: kind of a litmus test.

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Speaker 2: It is, and it's to me it's more than a

1947
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 2: litmus test because if this effort fails. And what I

1948
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Speaker 2: mean not to sound so dire, but this is what

1949
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Speaker 2: I truly think. All the pieces have been put on

1950
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Speaker 2: the board. Okay, this, like you said, this is going

1951
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Speaker 2: back fifty sixty years. I believe that again, regardless of

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Speaker 2: what you think the true intention was of the creators

1953
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 2: of the economic liberal world order, right, what their intentions were,

1954
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 2: this is the culmination. So when we say digital ID

1955
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 2: connected to having some form of a social credit score,

1956
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,959
Speaker 2: connected to some form of having any access to markets,

1957
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: all of this is easily controlled by a very small

1958
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Speaker 2: group of people that have so much power and control.

1959
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Speaker 2: There is just no way to stop it. There's just

1960
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 2: no way to stop it. And I think that President

1961
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Trump saw that this is what is potentially coming, and

1962
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Speaker 2: there is well, like I said, this desire to be

1963
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Speaker 2: able to stop it, and what's one of the solutions

1964
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 2: is to control it and then control it better. Is

1965
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Speaker 2: an interesting argument that's kind of the Elon Musk right.

1966
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk is like, AI is here, we are going

1967
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Speaker 2: to have some form of artificial general intelligence. The only

1968
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Speaker 2: way to fight against it is to integrate and become

1969
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Speaker 2: cyborgs basically, which is what he's trying to do. And

1970
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 2: that is very terrifying to people because people are like, no, no, no,

1971
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Speaker 2: I don't want to have any of it, and he's like,

1972
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Speaker 2: there is no stopping this inevitability. AI is here, It

1973
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 2: is going to continue to learn. The only way to

1974
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 2: fight it is for humans to integrate into it, which

1975
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 2: has a very larger implication. So the question is with

1976
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Speaker 2: what President Trump is trying to do, is he going

1977
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Speaker 2: to be able to take control of the thing to

1978
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Speaker 2: stop it from going the way that they're going to

1979
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 2: want to make it, which is all centrally planned and

1980
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Speaker 2: controlled that will take away our connection with God. And

1981
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 2: this is like end time spiritual stuff. Or is President

1982
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 2: Trump going to be able to actually avert that we

1983
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 2: don't need to even go down that path and then

1984
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 2: dismantle the idea of ever having it again? And that

1985
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 2: to me is where if Trump fails and he is

1986
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: ripped from power, right then that's it. We will go back.

1987
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 2: The Republicans will say, see, we told you you know, Trump,

1988
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,759
Speaker 2: bad guy, evil fascist dictator. That's why they are using

1989
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 2: every opportunity these No Kings rallies November first, it looks

1990
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Speaker 2: like the Democrats unless they change their tune in the

1991
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 2: next this week, forty million Americans are going to lose

1992
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Speaker 2: their Snap benefits. And do you think that the No

1993
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 2: King's protests they were set up as a precursor that

1994
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 2: if this happens and they're able to effectively lie to

1995
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Speaker 2: the American people say it's Republicans fault that the government's

1996
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 2: not being funded and their SNAP benefits are being cut

1997
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 2: because the Democrats have voted twelve times to continue to

1998
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Speaker 2: keep the government shut down, that they won't then go. Now,

1999
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: all of these people that have had their snap benefits

2000
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 2: cut off. It's Trump's fault, It's Republican's fault, and we

2001
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: just had this no kings. Rather, let's reinvigorate this and

2002
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,759
Speaker 2: let's have some type of revolution people in the street.

2003
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 2: That's what they're trying to do. In my opinion, I

2004
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: see that as a very plausible path, that that's where

2005
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 2: this is all going, and that's why the Democrats are

2006
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 2: willing to go down this path. Now, it can still

2007
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 2: backfire because again I think Republicans, especially under President Trump,

2008
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 2: have done a good job at helping kill the legacy

2009
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: media that that narrative won't tie in that then the

2010
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 2: actual truth is that the Democrats are the ones that

2011
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 2: are stopping your benefits from being cut, you know, are

2012
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 2: the ones that are that are making your benefits be cut.

2013
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 2: And so this to me is all part of this

2014
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 2: larger strategic game that the Democrats will take every opportunity

2015
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 2: to do everything they can to disempower President Trump. When

2016
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 2: we're talking about ice raids and we're talking about those

2017
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:04,520
Speaker 2: pro tests, and again the strategy that the Democrats, the uniparty,

2018
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:09,600
Speaker 2: the existing order, everything that they will throw into you know,

2019
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: all the wrenches and gears you know, wrenches into the

2020
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 2: spokes and everything like that to stop what President Trump

2021
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 2: is accomplishing and attempting to accomplish. That's the bigger piece.

2022
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 2: And I know that that can just feel like there's

2023
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 2: no way, man, it's not that deep. It is that deep.

2024
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 2: President Trump understands it's that deep, and that's why we

2025
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 2: have to stay as unified as we possibly can. I

2026
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 2: just don't think that you can force people to get

2027
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: on board. You have to be able to show them

2028
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 2: and inspire them to want to get on board. And

2029
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 2: that to me is what ultimately I'm trying to do.

2030
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Speaker 2: As I go out and have conversations. When I talk

2031
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 2: about these difficult topics, I make videos about this. I mean,

2032
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 2: I think I've now created like seven hundred videos that

2033
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: are across all my social media you know, TikTok x, Instagram, Facebook,

2034
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 2: and I just continue to push out content and hope

2035
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Speaker 2: enough people become inspired.

2036
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Speaker 3: And I think it's mattering to a point. We'll see

2037
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 3: if it matters enough. Though, well, you know, it's a

2038
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 3: yin young thing. I mean, I'm taking a hammer to

2039
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 3: some of these people, but I don't really dislike them.

2040
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:16,719
Speaker 3: I'm hoping the same thing. See My fundamental building block

2041
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 3: here is let's not be lying. Yeah, let's start there,

2042
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 3: because we're really still truly in Minnesota minority party.

2043
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 2: How do we aggregate?

2044
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 3: How do we convince people people are really This goes

2045
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 3: back to the Mark Mitchell thing. Authenticity is the number

2046
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 3: one characteristic of a winning campaign. So if people are inauthentic,

2047
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if I know it, okay, I'm going to know.

2048
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Speaker 2: It at the policy level.

2049
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean some twenty five year old kid

2050
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 3: like Tanner can't look at a candidate and go man,

2051
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 3: that doesn't really add up. I don't get the right

2052
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 3: feeling from this person. We want to have our feel

2053
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 3: around those twenty ideas and we want to ensue that

2054
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 3: as a group. And hey, you know, if you're a

2055
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 3: candidate and you're not done, I bet you are. Candidates

2056
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 3: haven't looked up. We'll just start with candidates. You all

2057
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 3: need to go to the r n C and see

2058
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 3: what it is you're supposed to be pitching out there.

2059
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 3: This is a noir thing candidates. And this goes for

2060
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 3: close friends of mine. Hey, you know you're ere your

2061
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 3: candidate until you're elected.

2062
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 2: You know what you are? A salesman? Yeah, you are.

2063
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 2: That's what you are.

2064
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,799
Speaker 3: So let's at least all get on the same product page.

2065
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 3: Let's all have the same features and benefits. If you

2066
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 3: vote for the Republican idea, this is what you're voting for.

2067
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 3: Let's take out of their hands because they're all about

2068
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm fighting Trump. That's what Omar Fata says. I'm against Trump.

2069
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm against Trump. You know, let's let's get it down.

2070
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 3: Here's the ideas that we're going to benefit the communities.

2071
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 3: We got to learn those twenty ideas Tanner, what a

2072
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 3: great podcast to twenty ideas that are on the r

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Speaker 3: n C. Yes, we got Remember I made the offer

2074
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 3: to you. I'll go any place in the state with

2075
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 3: you and have this conversation if we we're in park

2076
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 3: rapids together.

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Speaker 2: You did a great job, by the way, thank you.

2078
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 3: It was a very very very fun event to drive

2079
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 3: up there to look at an effective BPOU able to

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01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 3: put one hundred plus citizens in a room that sat

2081
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 3: for hours and listen to policy.

2082
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 2: Man. That was cool. That was really cool. We need that.

2083
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 2: We need that in CD three. So you know what

2084
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to do.

2085
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm bringing back the masterclass, all right, I am, I'm

2086
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 3: bringing it back. Maybe it'll be a guest. I'm going

2087
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 3: to set it up. We're going to do it every month.

2088
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 3: I told my staff set it up forever. Well, I'm

2089
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 3: going to do it till I die.

2090
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 2: You know why.

2091
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to hold the principle and I'm going to

2092
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 3: try to move people to the principle. I'm gonna talk

2093
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 3: to them just like I talked to you. And if

2094
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 3: you can get any of these establishment figures to come

2095
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 3: on here, they will be met with great respect because

2096
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 3: I want them to convince me why a dying regime

2097
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 3: is what we need to go back right, and then

2098
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 3: if they can do it, because guess what I voted

2099
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 3: for George W.

2100
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Speaker 2: Bush.

2101
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 3: I've been to China over a hundred times. They don't

2102
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 3: have the experiences I've had. They think they do. Why

2103
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 3: they don't really don't like me. I'm tough. I've actually

2104
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 3: lived this in the dirt in the trench, and I've

2105
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 3: seen what it's done in my country, and I see I'm.

2106
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 2: That rare dude. I would seek first the Kingdom of Heaven.

2107
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 3: That's just me, amen. But I come from a background

2108
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 3: with that. If you don't have that background, hey, where's

2109
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Speaker 3: the cash.

2110
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny that you say that, because I

2111
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Speaker 2: think that is why I am who I am, Right,

2112
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Speaker 2: my foundational faith and belief in Jesus Christ as our

2113
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Speaker 2: Lord and savior, that he died for all of our sins. Right,

2114
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Speaker 2: he suffered through that resurrected in three days, snatching the

2115
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Speaker 2: keys of life and saying all people, even though none

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Speaker 2: of you deserve it, all you have to do is

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Speaker 2: believe in me. I think that that, foundationally is what

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Speaker 2: tethers me to being who I am and saying, like,

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest. Where I came in in the party

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Speaker 2: versus where I am now is very different. I still

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Speaker 2: support the Republican Party. But again, much like yourself, right,

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Speaker 2: if you are presented with information and you just look

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Speaker 2: at it long enough and you get enough information together,

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Speaker 2: you're going to see that, oh I'm wrong, and I

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Speaker 2: am fully able to accept that. Why. The basic premise

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Speaker 2: of Christianity is that we are fallen because of sin.

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Speaker 2: So if I accept that I'm fallen, the idea that

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Speaker 2: I think that I'm perfect or that I understand everything

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Speaker 2: is absurd. So yeah, you might need to take some

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Speaker 2: convincing because I still am going to have you know

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Speaker 2: my reasonings and justification, and we can have this tension

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Speaker 2: that goes back and forth. But I think why I'm

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Speaker 2: going to continue to fight for it is because why

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Speaker 2: not you know, in the same way that I believe

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Speaker 2: that my faith is always going to be something that

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Speaker 2: I will fight for. I will never not confess or

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Speaker 2: profess that I'm a Christian, that I believe Jesus Christ

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Speaker 2: is the Son of God. That's the least that I

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Speaker 2: can do. I'm going to continue to push for what

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Speaker 2: I see to be the truth. And if that changes

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Speaker 2: because new information comes out in regards to what is

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Speaker 2: true or what is not true, I'll be the first

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Speaker 2: one to say it because I don't care. Like me

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Speaker 2: being in this position, me being involved in politics, I

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Speaker 2: don't care. I don't need it. Right. If I get

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Speaker 2: thrown out because people are like you're too crazy, AKA,

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Speaker 2: I can at least say, well, this is what I believe, man,

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Speaker 2: But I'll never have the hubris to be like I

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Speaker 2: only know the only way and that there's no other

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Speaker 2: possible way. I'm willing to hear you out. It's just

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Speaker 2: based off of everything I've seen. This is where I'm at,

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Speaker 2: this is where I'm standing not going to change that is.

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Speaker 2: I'm always approach life being honest and truthful. And you know,

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Speaker 2: even Jordan Peterson, you know, he came out with a

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Speaker 2: couple of different books talking about the rules for life,

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Speaker 2: and one of the most important one is like tell

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Speaker 2: the truth or at least don't lie.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, yeh, that's my fundamental cornerstone for

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Speaker 3: my party. Tell the truth. There's no spiritual anything if

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Speaker 3: we live a lot. And on that note, you're a

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Speaker 3: great bridge. I really want to thank you for coming

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Speaker 3: in here. I want to invite all the traditionalists in

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Speaker 3: here so we can because we're in Hey, they can

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Speaker 3: evangelize me. And you know, they got fertile ground with

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Speaker 3: me because I used to be with them. I know

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Speaker 3: where they're coming from. So I want to thank you

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Speaker 3: for coming in. I want everybody to repost the links

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Speaker 3: go to the Free People's Store tireget dot com. But

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Speaker 3: the most important thing is think about what you're going

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Speaker 3: to do in this very critical twenty twenty six election

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Speaker 3: season to advance the concept of the Republic of the

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Speaker 3: United States of America. Thanks for very much, Hey, Kay,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much.

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