WEBVTT - HOUR 1- Jim Jackson Aug 27, 2020 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.080 Sports Radio. Email, tweet, you can dial us up all 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.920 the above, say good morning to our TV partners Peacock. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.400 Also YouTube dot com signs to The Dan Patrick Show, 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.360 our radio affiliates around the country numbering three hundred and 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.120 sixty two. Those on chat row and those who might 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.240 be joining us via a tweet or an email. You 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:27.600 can tweet us at dp show. Also dan Patrick dot com. 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.200 You can go to dpat dan Patrick dot com. We 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:31.920 are not going to have a poll question today. I 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.360 just didn't know if there was an appropriate poll question 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.600 given the temperature here in the sports world. You know, 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.800 but this has been there for a couple of days, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.599 and we started to see some of the signs of 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.519 maybe what happened yesterday and last night playing out prior 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.880 to yesterday and last night. Chris Hayes from Yahoo Sports 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.760 has done a wonderful job in covering the NBA, not 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.680 only on the court, but off the court in the bubble, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.280 and he talked to about maybe there's some teams getting together. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.800 Maybe the Celtics and the Raptors were going to sit 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.399 out their first game their schedule to play today. I 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.759 don't think there's going to be basketball today, but we'll 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.120 keep an eye on all of this. It's all fluid. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.679 You have the players meeting this morning, the NBA Board 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.839 of Governors meeting this morning, and we're going to try 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.880 to connect with as many people as we can. Just 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.240 to give you an update on this. Jim Jackson, who 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.480 worked for NBA TV, was on the air yesterday and 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.800 I got a heads up prior to this that you 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.560 got to watch what's happening with the Bucks. And I 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.720 flipped over at NBA TV, and all of a sudden, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.520 and it's mid afternoon, it's four o'clock, and I go, Okay, 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.920 they're on the floor. Now they're not on the floor, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.479 and the Magic were on the floor. The Bucks went 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.440 into their locker room, and I wasn't sure what was happening, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.200 but I got the feeling because I didn't know if 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.720 there was a technical delay, but they went into their 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.800 locker room, and then Orlando went into its locker room, 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.320 and then I realized they're not going to be basketball 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.360 this afternoon. And then I reached out to a source 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.160 who said there's not going to be basketball tonight either, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.400 and probably not tomorrow, meaning today, and I don't know 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.120 where we stand, but we'll cover it the best we can. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.919 Jim Jackson will join us coming up here in about 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.079 fifteen minutes. I thought NBA TV did a wonderful job 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.280 with this yesterday, Sam Mitchell and Jim Jackson, because this 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.000 was real time, This was a real moment, and this 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.280 was something that was happening right in front of us. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.360 I'm tuning in to watch a game, there is no game, 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.000 and then you want to know what is going on 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:36.639 behind the scenes. The Milwaukee Bucks were meeting and George Hill, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.519 the Bucks guard, then came out and gave this statement, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.800 let me see if we're still working on getting all 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.760 this sound from yesterday, so I will bring that to 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.960 you here coming up at a moment. But the actions 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.720 of the NBAWNBA and baseball players took last night didn't 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.320 come out of nowhere. The decision to walk out was 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.480 really part of a progression towards social activism. We've seen 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.359 this from athletes in recent years. So here's George Hill 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.079 of the Bucks yesterday after the game was postponed. We're 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.400 calling for justice, letigably and demand also be hilled accountable 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.840 for this to occur. It is imperative for the Westconstant 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.359 State Legislator to reconde after months of inaction and take 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:23.160 the meaningful managers to address the issues of police accountability, brutality, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.240 and criminal justice reform. So that's George Hill of the 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:32.040 Milwaukee Bucks. But not long after, Lebron James and Dwyane Wade, 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.800 Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony opened up the SP's remember 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.960 that summer of twenty sixteen, and this was in large 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.760 part due to the reaction of Muhammad Ali passing away. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.760 Muhammed Ali passed away and I remember coming in I 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.880 don't know if it was the next day or soon after, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.840 and I said, you're starting to get a groundswell of 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.040 athletes realizing what Muhammad Ali did and when he did it, 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.920 and why he did it, and how he did it 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.360 and how it affected him. There were consequences with what 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.440 he did. He did not want to go to the 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.000 Vietnam War. He was a conscientious objector, but he knew 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.280 what he was putting on the line, and that is 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.600 his heavyweight title. He was in the prime of his 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.000 career and he gave it up. And you know, they 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.440 wanted to put him in jail. They took away his title. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.960 When you had Mexico City, Tommy Smith and John Carlos, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.680 they won medals and they raised their fists with a 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.360 black glove on it. They knew what they were sacrificing. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.640 Colin Kaepernick when he took a knee, I don't know 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.560 if the time he knew what he was sacrificing, but 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.800 he soon found out what he was sacrificing. And now 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.760 these players, I think are at a crossroads of what 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.960 are they willing to sacrifice? How important is this? And 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.400 I think we're going to find out here in the 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.679 next twenty four hours. But I do think the passing 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.120 of Muhammad Ali, where if you're younger, a younger generation, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:03.560 you don't realize exactly how powerful polarizing he was. And 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.279 I think when Chris Paul, Dwyane, Wade, Lebron and Carmelo 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.840 opened up the spies by speaking about social justice, they 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.960 were inspired by Muhammad Ali. Lebron said that the only 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.919 true way to honor Ali was doing what he was 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:22.039 doing and taking a larger role in social activism. Because 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.760 Ali was stripped of his heavyweight title because of his 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.840 decision not to go to the war, circumstances certainly are 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.520 different for today's athletes. But there are clear parallels, and 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.280 we're going to see just how far the players are 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.919 willing to go, how much they're willing to sacrifice, because 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.800 that is what this is about. It's going to be 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.960 an eventful week, just like Ali. What we're seeing this 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.240 week as a chance to jump off the sports pages 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.080 and into the history books. Here teams taking votes. I 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.800 was on a phone call last night with a prominent 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.840 agent and he is waiting to hear from some of 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.960 his clients and even said to me at one point, 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.560 if such and such balls, I'm going to have to 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.440 hang up. And the agents aren't in the bubble. They're 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:09.600 the lifeline because these players want to know, like can 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.800 I do this? Am I sacrificing my salary? Can I 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.080 get out of the bubble? Like what happens here? The ramifications? 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:22.000 We've never seen this before. And he said this is 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.160 front burner and it's so bleep and hot you won't 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.840 believe it. And I said, well, I do believe it. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.640 And he said there are teams that want to shut 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:35.719 down this season. Now. The players are probably the Clippers 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.640 and the Lakers. All the players are in a ballroom 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.560 here and Lebron walks out, and you've probably read this, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.039 and guys who have done a great job. Chris Haynes 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.640 broke the story, Chris Mannox has done a wonderful job 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.840 in covering this, so I want them to get the credit. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.120 But I was told Lebron was walking out. This was 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:58.680 a Clippers Lakers led meeting as far as they wanted 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.560 everybody to know they stood and that they did not 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.680 want to continue the season. I don't know how they 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.440 feel today. I don't know what's going to happen with 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.800 the commissioner. I don't know the role the owners are 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.080 going to play here too, and the owners do need 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.160 to play a role here. But if you have a 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.320 basketball game in less than seven hours, these guys got 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.960 to get ready. And I don't think you're going to 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:26.720 have basketball today. This feels like these teams postponed. So 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.080 these teams will postpone. Everybody is going to postpone a game. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.080 So the Nuggets and Jazz are supposed to play at 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.880 four Eastern, and then you have yesterday's games. Now they're 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.040 not canceled, they were just postponed. That's key to understand that. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.800 Because there was also legal language that this agent was 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.360 telling me about that he had to navigate through if 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.160 there was a forfeit, If the Bucks could have forfeited 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.440 that game, if Orlando wanted to take him up on 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.960 it and say, all right, you don't want to play, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.360 then it's a forfeit. Orlando would have those players would 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.400 have looked bad in that situation. But where we are now, 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.000 where we're going to be in twenty four hours from 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.200 now tough to handicap. And I'm not going to try 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.360 to speculate. And I don't want to tell you how 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.840 to feel in this situation. I don't want to look 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.680 at the players and say this is how, hey, you 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.360 should be out there playing. I could only tell you 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.920 how they're feeling. I can only bring you some of 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.280 the interviews this sound from some of these players. I'm 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.040 going to bring back Doc rivers comments that was on 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.480 Wednesday prior to their game with the MAVs. It's one 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:38.640 of the most important sports speeches I've ever heard. And 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.199 maybe it's not fair to just label it a sports 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.840 speech because it was a powerful speech by Doc Rivers 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.240 and what he was saying and his message that he 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.199 was sending. And we'll have that for you coming up 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.840 eight seven seven three d P show email address DP 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.480 at Dan Patrick dot com Twitter, hand to a DP 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.679 show and once again there's no poll question today. I 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.280 just didn't know if I could find something that was 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.120 smart enough to put in there. I don't want to 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.920 be flippant today. You know, we try to do a 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.800 show that's based on We were going to have Pat 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.040 McAfee on today. They probably have a few laughs. Former 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.439 Colts puntered and I just said, I can't put him 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.520 in this situation. Greg Olsen, the Seattle Seahawks tight end. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.760 I said to Fritzie, I can't put him in this 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.960 situation because it's not fair to him. I don't know 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.559 what's going to happen with the NFL. Does the NFL 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.920 follow suit Some baseball teams did, some baseball players did hockey, 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.880 some players did, some teams did, some teams didn't. And 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:44.800 what happened was it happened so quickly that the Bucks 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.520 decided to do this. And this agent told me that 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.120 some of the players that he had spoken to were 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.840 upset with the Bucks because there was no communication with 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.520 the other teams. They decided. I don't know when they decided, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.679 but they decided. And then all of a sudden, if 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.679 you're the Rocket Rockets in the thunder, you can't play 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.040 Lakers Blazers, you can't play. And that's where there was 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.880 some feelings, hurt, some sensitivity that was conveyed that these 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.600 players are saying, give us a heads up, we're all 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.440 in this together. Lebron wants action from the owners. He 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.240 wants the owners. You know, the players are the ones 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.160 that are in the bubble and entertaining everybody. Now the 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.120 owners aren't there, and he wants the owners involved in this. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.520 And Lebron is leading the chart. And yesterday when we 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:37.240 had Charles Barkley on and even Chris Haynes from Yahoo Sports, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.640 I said, how much pressure is on Lebron? Because this 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:44.800 all comes back to Lebron James. He's been very vocal, outspoken, 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:50.040 whether it's during interviews or on Twitter. And Charles Barkley 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:51.880 and Chris Haynes were like, I don't know how much 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.800 pressure is on Lebron. I do a ton of pressure 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:01.360 and trying to win a championship. And he's hinted at 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.920 some stuff off the court, whether it's outside the bubble, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.320 something about it, and people speculated now he's getting ready 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.920 to throw his teammates under the bus. He's kind of 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.480 getting out in front of this that he doesn't have 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.840 a good enough team to win the championship. I don't 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:19.400 know if that's necessarily the case, because he's been involved 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.880 in a lot of different things, and certainly this with 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.960 the social activism. But Lebron and Chris Paul, from what 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.560 I was told last night, they're the ones that are 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.080 leading the charge. Now. I don't know if they're both 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.480 headed in the same direction because the reports are Lebron, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.280 the Lakers, Clippers, Kauai, we're walking out and we're not 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.679 going to play basketball. Plus you have and maybe perfect 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.680 storm is not the best description, but all the players 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.840 are there in the bubble, so they can all get together. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.600 Moment's notice. You can get the whole team together, you 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.400 can get teams together, you can get the league together. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.880 But you're there in the bubble. There's all ready frustration 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:05.080 isolation there, and now you get everybody together. Now you 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.160 can take the temperature right there, real time in person. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.600 And I think that's what's been going on. So Jim 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.319 Jackson will join us coming up, and I will bring 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:21.320 back the doc Rivers sound that I it was tough 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.920 listening to. We have a little bit of time here. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.080 I'm going to play a little bit of this. But 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.320 here's Dock Rivers. This is on Wednesday, prior to the 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.360 game of the Mavericks, and Doc, who's dad as a 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.600 former police officer, I think three decades as a police officer, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.839 was speaking from the heart. All you do is keep 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:56.800 hearing a fear. It's it's amazing why we keep loving 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:03.160 this country and this country his back, it's it's really 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:09.800 so sad. My God should just be a coach. And 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:18.000 it's so often reminded of my color. You know, it's 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.640 just really sad. We gotta do better. It's Doc Rivers 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.400 as I said that his father is a former police officer. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.680 I think thirty years as a police officer. Doc and 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.560 his players considered boycotting a playoff game back in twenty 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.800 fourteen after the audiotape surface that featured the former owner 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.000 Donald Sterling were revealed, and he said, this time is 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.880 different because it's the whole league rather than one team 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.040 weighing that decision, and Doc said, I think every team 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.560 has to decide what they want to do, and honestly, 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.880 I hope everyone plays now he does have house credit 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.040 to be able to say this, Hey, I want us 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.520 to play. I hope we play. And this is where 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.560 the discussion last night, and it got heated from what 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.240 I'm told is you had players who were like, if 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.000 we don't play, what impact does that have on what 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.040 we want to accomplish? If we do play, what impact 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.280 is that going to have? And there's I don't know 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.560 how big group. I don't want to underestimate or overestimate, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.120 but saying, you know, Black Lives Matter has kind of 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.720 been lost here. You now watch a game and I 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.840 don't It's like seeing a city bank ad like, I 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.280 don't know if you react the same way, even what's 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.080 on the jerseys. I don't know if we're reacting the 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:37.160 way that the players had hoped we would react. And 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.840 I'm saying we as society and what we see, what 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.880 we read, and then now you have a decision here. Also, 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.240 the players were informed last night, I'm told about the 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:53.320 financial aspects of all of this. Players Union Rep. Michelle 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.280 Roberts informed the players of what's at stake because there 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:02.080 are financial ramifications here. They've already lost a couple of 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.520 one hundred billion or whatever with China earlier in the year. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.680 And now you run the financial risk here and you 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:15.200 have a commissioner in Adam Silver, who has who governs 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.440 a league that's run by players. This isn't like the NFL, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.000 where that commissioner just wants to put money in the 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:28.200 owner's pockets. Adam Silver knows this is a player driven league. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.280 You know what, how many owners in the NBA do 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:41.840 you know Mark Cuban, who else? Not many other Steve Ballmer? 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.840 Why because it's a player driven league. In the NFL, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.240 we tend to know all the owners. It feels like 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:53.240 because it's an owner's driven league. This commissioner, for as 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.440 much credit as he got for Donald Sterling, and you know, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.040 sending him out put him out on the street. This 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.920 is there's no comparison because that was an easy decision. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:11.000 Now you have something really serious and long term ramifications here. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.080 I can't imagine the pressure on Adam Silver to try 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.360 to hold this together. And once again, the players are sensitive. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.800 They want to call it a boycott. Not the games 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.120 are postponed. But we'll talk to Jim Jackson will join 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.800 his coming up next. He did a great job former player, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.880 NBA player, and as I always tell people when they 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:35.920 talk about TV, when you know it's live and it's real, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.600 that's when you find out how somebody can perform under pressure. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.960 You could watch somebody. I could watch Jim Jackson play 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.119 a basketball game under pressure. That's one thing. But yesterday 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.240 you have to fill all this time and you're not 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.920 quite sure what just happened right in front of you, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.600 and I thought Jim Jackson did a wonderful job. If 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.280 you want to be involved and you have something to say, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.640 you know that I'm one of the few shows, national 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.960 shows in America that takes phone calls, your emails, your tweets, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.760 because I trust this audience and you may not agree 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.280 with my opinion on this, and I'm trying not to 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.840 give you an opinion. I just want to I want 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.920 you to establish your opinion, or maybe I can change 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.959 your opinion. I don't know. I'm just I'm covering the 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.080 fallout from this. It's not a lecture moment. It's just 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.480 more of a perspective, trying to put it all in perspective, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.399 and that'll be the challenge over the next two and 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.920 a half hours. So hope you can stay for a while. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.000 We'll come back with Jim Jackson. He'll join us next 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.879 year on The Dan Patrick Show. We're back after this. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.879 Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.760 sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.160 noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.720 Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.760 Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.720 day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.920 Got a couple more days to submit your pitch next 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:03.000 Great Podcast. Can't tell you how proud I am of 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.560 some of the people what they've sent in with their 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.600 great podcast ideas, and what we're going to do is 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.320 select up to ten semifinalists to give you a thousand dollars, 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.840 produce a pilot episode, and then people from around the 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.280 country will vote on the next Great Podcast and then 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.880 the winner. I'm going into business with you, but keep 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.680 them coming. You have until the end of the month, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.119 and some of the ideas are spectacular. Once again, we 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.840 don't have a poll question today. Hope you understand. Just 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.040 given the sensitivity of everything that's going on, Bucks lead 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.800 the NBA shutdown Wednesday night. Three baseball games were stopped. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.240 Three NBA games are scheduled today but from what I'm told, 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.920 they're not going to be played. NBA Board of Governors 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.800 meeting this morning. I believe there's a players meeting later 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.320 on today as well. Jim Jackson NBA on TNT analyst 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.200 and he was on the call NBA TV yesterday. Jim, 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.399 I've watched you a lot of times in your career, 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.480 college and pro. You had one of your best performances 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.280 of your life yesterday. I appreciate the honesty and doing 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.320 that on live TV when you saw this was unfolding 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:05.960 right there in front of you. When did you get 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.520 an inkling that something was up that the Bucks were 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.800 probably not going to play this game. First of all, Dan, 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.880 thank you, you know for having me on your show 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.080 this morning. Thanks thanks for the kind words. Early in 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.400 the day we heard some rumblings about maybe the Toronto 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.080 Raptors were thinking about maybe a boycott, but we didn't 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:26.920 have a lot of credence to that, so we kind 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.400 of just went about our day preparing for the game 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.360 as normal. Once we got to the venue in the arena, 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.439 you know, the Orlando Magic were out warming up their 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.199 pregame warm up, you know, coaches kind of shooting, and 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.800 so were the Milwaukee Bucks some players out there, but 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.080 as time began to pass a little bit and Orlando 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.760 Magic went back to their locker room to begin their preparations, 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.080 their pregame prep, last minute adjustments before they came back 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.880 out for their final warm up before the game. They 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.399 came back out and we noticed that the Milwaukee Bucks 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.919 have yet to enter onto the court. And as the 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.920 time began to you know, count down to zero and 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.320 the game clock, no Milwaukee Bucks came to the court. 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.720 And at that point we got word that there had 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.160 been a players meeting and that they had decided, because 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.880 of the shooting of Jacob Blake and what was going 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.600 on in Kenosha, that they would boycott the basketball game. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.200 And then you're trying to process this, What's Orlando do? 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.800 Because I thought they were kind of caught off guard here. 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.520 It felt like I don't know when the Bucks voted 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.080 on this, Jim, but it felt like I don't know 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.240 if it was a rush to vote or last minute, 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.240 but it felt like they should have given at least 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:43.159 Orlando a heads up there, because Orlando, They're still on 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.520 the floor, and I'm going, what is going on here? Yeah? 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.199 I agree to some point, and it would have back 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:50.720 up a little bit. I do think a couple of 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.720 players from the Bucks I had had a private meeting 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.239 the night before and talked about this, okay, and now 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.159 when they brought it to their teammates, I'm really not 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.600 for sure, but it was brought in time in order 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.920 to put a game plan in place in regards to 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.800 the Orlando Magic. Sometimes with a plan like this, if 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.440 it's going to be enacted the right way, if it's 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.920 the Milwaukee Bucks, I think they felt it was better 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.360 and their best interests to wait until they had everything 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.080 in place, because again, they put out calls through the 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.879 ownership to the Attorney General's office in Wisconsin also the 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:28.879 District Attorney's office in Kenosha to talk about the case itself. 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.840 So they had a plan in place. It worked. The 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.359 Orlando Magic jumped on board, and hence the other teams 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.880 later that day also decided that the boycott was necessary. 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.199 If you were still in the NBA, what would you 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.359 want to hear now as you move forward that would 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.360 keep you in the bubble. Well, you know, Dan, I've 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.480 been asked that a lot, and that's a trick question. Begaun. 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.480 I say that because as a man that's now forty nine, 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.480 about to be fifty. My thought process is a lot different. 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.200 How would think at twenty four, twenty five, twenty six 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.199 years old without an education in the reading and the 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.159 knowledge that I have now is a lot different. But 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.920 I would want to see a plan together in regards 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:11.600 to pushing the narrative of social justice also, you know, 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:17.920 racial inequalities. But for the players itself, what they've been 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.040 saying all along pre bubble, post bubble, during the bubble 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:26.600 is that we need to take more leadership, our owners 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.440 need to take more responsibility within our communities because if 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.200 we don't do it, if we don't have a voice, 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.680 then we're asking others who don't have who have been marginalized, 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.120 who don't have the platform to affect change. We, more 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.880