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Ten players that are 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.759 being overvalued at this point. Ten players that are being 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.240 undervalued at this point. Okay, from a fantasy football perspective, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.199 we'll start with the overvalued number one, Jeremiah Love. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.240 Oh I think so too, I mean. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.520 And I can I'm sure you can imagine what the 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.039 logic is. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:43.399 Yeah, yeah, I mean so if I'm the Cardinals, First 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.560 of all, I would not have taken Love in my rebuilder. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.760 That's the last piece of the puzzle. But I would 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.720 hope that they're smart with him and realize, let's not 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.440 beat this guy into the ground. That's a premium asset 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.840 to win three games or win four games, you know. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.080 So I don't know that his usage is going to 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.880 be nearly as dream is say Genties was last year, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.720 which they probably shouldn't have done that to genty either. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.760 At the moment, they still have James Connor, which I 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.800 think he's a very viable trade candidate maybe Green Bay 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.400 if Josh Jacobs ni'tt himself out of trouble. But they 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.600 also signed Tyler Al's year in the offseason. Two, they 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.359 still have Trey Benson, who was the second round pick 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:20.880 just a couple of years ago. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.800 The running back room is certainly not the problem. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.800 Right right, And I don't quite understand the pick for 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.600 all those reasons you draft the lineman or something, but no, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.440 he's not for me. I love the player, but I 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:33.400 don't love love. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.960 Yeah, I just I think it's there might be some 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.640 some Ashton Genty let down stuff is out of his control, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.680 but I think it might not be the rookie season 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:44.600 that people are expecting. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:44.840 No. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.279 Number two is Garrett Wilson on the over valued conversation. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.480 Perhaps I'm just such a big fan of his game, 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.120 so I'm not sure I agree with that. There's a 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.959 lot of receivers going in that neighborhood, and you could 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.960 nitpick the others in that neighborhood, Wattle perhaps somebody like that. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:09.480 You'd prefer now Wilson's numbers. I mean, it's kind of 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.440 just a bet on Gino if you think Gino is 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:15.000 gonna be okay. I have no problem with Wilson and 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:21.400 unliking in Arizona. Gino probably plays all seventeen games, I mean, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.080 and they I guess they could throw one of the 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.880 young guys in the mix, but none of them have 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.560 like much pedigree. There's not someone on the on the 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.760 bench that's going to totally derail the offense like when 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.760 Cook was out there last year. So I'm not sure 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.960 I buy that one. I just think Wilson's a really 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:36.440 good player. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.240 I do too, I know, and I understand they've got 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.600 some mouths the feed around him down too, but I 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.720 that one not. Let's just say I don't like that 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.119 as much as I like the Jeremiah Love listing and 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.240 this next one Jalen hurts. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.920 Oh me too, because I think they're going to try 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.080 to get away from Tush Push a little bit. I 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.000 know this sounds nuts, but please don't forget how crazy 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:01.120 NFL seasons go. He could get benched, he's absolutely. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.800 I mean, there's a specially with that franchise. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.280 Right, I mean, a brand new offense that's really stressing 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:06.960 thrown to the middle of the field, which he does 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.960 less than anybody in the league. And oh, by the way, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.720 Jay Brown's not in the mix. I mean, it could 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.640 go wrong, and he's not a cheap pick. I mean, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.400 it's different if you I don't know you draft, you know, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.840 some of the twentieth quarterback in your fantasy league and 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.440 he gets benched or hurt, so what. But if he's 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.680 fifth off the board, I need you to be happy. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.760 Next up on the list is David Montgomery of the 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:30.960 Houston Texans. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.560 Tough one, because I do think the offense is better, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.720 the old line is better. They've been the worst running 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.240 team in the league for several years in a row, basically, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.839 but he's also to that age with that he could 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.719 be a vastly declining bayer. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.040 That's basically his point, and that he thinks he's just 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.960 going to get not that the player still isn't useful, right, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.120 but that he's going to get overvalued, overdrafted. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.159 I could see that, like I'm a little shock Houston. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:57.600 I know they drafted what he marks, but I was 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.280 impressed with him. But I would have used like a 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.680 fourth round pick gone some kind of running back to 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:02.919 add to that that stable. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.479 Next up on this list part of me. It's five 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.760 it's five overvalued, five under, so ten in total. So 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.760 last on the overvalued list here is Dallas Goddard, the 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.320 tight end for the Eagles, so two Eagles in the 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.960 overvalued basically saying he had the best season of his 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.520 career last year and that's always tough to to replicate. Yeah, 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.280 and that now you know, they they bring Stowers into 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.160 the mix, they bring Makay Lemon into the mix. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:28.640 Yeah. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.120 AJ Brown is gone, but still you know, a lot 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.440 of a lot of mouths to feed in that uh, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:34.640 in that Philly offense. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.400 See, I'm going to fight him on this one too. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.919 And and what he said isn't wrong either, But his 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.600 splits when AJ Brown is not on the field are 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.960 really really good. And I know it's a new offensive staff, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.760 but he's been in that organization a long time and 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.600 they've been doing things a certain way a long time, 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.839 and they get him the football, especially when Brown's not 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.560 out there, they do want to throw the middle field more. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.560 He's up in eight, but I don't think he's a 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:06.039 vastly declining player. And my biggest reason for fighting him 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.000 is he's going outside the top twelve tight ends. And 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.320 I mean, so you're getting him cheap. So the value part, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.039 I mean, okay, he's overvalued, but he's really cheap. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.560 I guess it depends on where you draft him. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.400 That's an interesting one. He is thirty one years old, 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.960 so still in that tight end, you know, maybe on 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.240 the down side of the prompt. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.080 But he's talked about retirement already. This could be his 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:31.640 last year. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.520 That offense could look so different next year with a 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.159 couple of retirements and a couple uhs, especially especially if 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.760 Herts go sideways and then maybe got It retires, maybe 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:47.080 Lane Johnson retires. Yeah, Lane Dickerson has had his issues, talked. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.520 About it too, with all those injuries. Yeah. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.480 Right, Wow, So there's the five over valued. Now let's 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.560 talk about undervalued. We'll stick with the tight ends here. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.320 The first one on his list is Jake Ferguson of 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:58.480 the Dallas Cowboys. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.680 Okay, but also he's dirt cheap. I mean, he's a 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.479 productive player. He's not for me, though, I mean in 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.360 the tight end world, I swing for the fences and 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.920 I want guys that to get down the field. And 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.080 he's not historically a great average up of the target. Dude, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.360 he's not super fast. He's not a dynamic player. Like 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.600 if he's a Steeler, you'd like him. You know, he's good. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.080 McCarthy got a lot of right, McCarthy got a lot 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.120 out of him. In Dallas. It's just I'm swinging for 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.280 a bigger fish than that. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.760 Number two is Parker Washington of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.840 Maybe really good season, about to get paid a lot 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.000 more than people. It will shock you when the numbers 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.280 come across really good after the catch physical. Some might 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.480 remember him from Penn State, from this neck of the woods. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.200 The problem with the Jags is they basically told us 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.600 we're going to play more multiple tight end sets by 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.080 paying Strange and drafting Bokirker with their first overall, the 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.840 first pick in the second round, so that that basically 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:02.400 tells you we're gonna have less three receivers sets. Travis 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.840 Hunter has already been said he's gonna be corner first, 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.840 but I can't believe he's not gonna run some routes 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:07.160 this year. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.360 But they got a lot. I mean, they've got some 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.160 question marks in that wide receiver room. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.440 Yeah, the corner rooms this weaker because it's Washington, it's 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:19.280 Brian Thomas Junior, and it's Myers, Jacobe Myers, right, So 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.280 all of a sudden, it's like if there's only to 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.200 be two out there and there's three or four fighting 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.320 for those spots, do we know Washington's won the top two. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.920 Brian Thomas maybe could get traded, but I'm I mean, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.440 I'm not gonna hope for that, yeah right, Or you know, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:35.600 put a lot of stock in. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:41.360 That Number three for undervalued fantasy football draft picks ahead 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.160 of this twenty twenty six draft season is Malik Neighbors 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:46.480 of the New York Giants. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.800 This is cheating though, because the injury stuff. If you 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.400 look at his ADP or you know, all these best 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:56.240 ball drafts that have happened, he went quite late because 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.560 all the news was he's a mess, and I guess 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.320 there was alse reporting. Was what I heard yesterday that 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:07.000 there was a quote cleanup procedure that was much late, late, 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.240 much after the original surgery, and it just came out 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.040 the other day. Neighbors is like that never happened, And 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.040 I guess he's running around a camp now. So his 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.960 ADP's skyrocketing back up because we got a lot of 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.560 misinformation or whatever. So he still scares me though, because 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.000 it's still a monster injury. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.120 It's a monster injury. But if he's healthy, I mean, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:26.920 he's he's got a lot of targets. He's gonna get 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.280 a lot of targets, and he's on the short list 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:29.720 of one of those better wide receivers. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.920 I think he's a phenomenal Talleague. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:38.080 Unbelievable, unbelievable. Number four on the Undervalued conversation Ramandre Stevenson, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.840 running back of the New England. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:44.040 Patriots, that I definitely agree with. He's perennially underrated. I mean, 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.240 he's not real flashy. He does fumble a little bit, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.920 but he does all the grinding. He's a lot more 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.880 talented than you think. He has a little bit of 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.760 home run potential. He's got a little bit of receiver potential. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.360 And the thing is everyone's enamored with Trevion Henderson, which 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.040 I get, but and I know you can't. I hate 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.559 doing this. You know, people are like, if you take 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.679 away all his best plays, he wasn't very good. Well, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.400 the best plays happened, you know what I mean. But 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.560 he has some incredible long runs and he has long speed. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.120 But he came in the league being billed as, oh, 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.520 he's a fantastic protection player. He's great in protection. Ohio State. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.920 He wasn't in the NFL, you know, I mean, I 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.679 thought he would be was at Ohio State, but he 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.480 was not trustworthy on third downs and blitz pick up. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.400 He missed a lot of holes. He's just a little bit. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:32.760 I mean, Henderson's very boom or bust, and the coaches 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.080 don't love that, you know. So therefore, I think Stevenson's 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.439 the guy to own in that backfield, especially a cost. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.839 That's if you hey, it says average draft position is 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.280 round ten. Yeah, running back thirty one. If he's the 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.920 thirty first running package your board, that's pretty good. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.199 He's your flex or your backup or you know. I'm 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.599 not saying you gotta start him every week, but you 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.920 might be happy and plus say it's true if he 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.720 gets hurt, but if one of the two backs gets hurt, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.640 then they're every week starters for sure. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.000 Correct correct. Last one from our own division. It's wide 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.680 receivers A Flowers of the Baltimore Ravens. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.200 He has one glaring problem is he's barely caught any 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.959 touchdowns his whole career. Now we have a new offensive coordinator. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.720 I don't think Lamar just won't throw them the ball 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:20.840 in the end zone. That's usually Andrews, but Flowers should 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.680 have a very high percentage of targets going his way. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.640 The other wideouts on that team aren't particularly good. He's gone, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.240 Andrew's up in age. I mean, he may get twelve 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.640 targets a game. He's a score an, he's smaller. You know, 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.800 he's not gonna you know, skyrocket over guys on jump balls. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.280 And sure, sure he was targeted in the red zone 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.920 last year on just forty three percent of the Ravens 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.760 red zone passes. Expecting that number to go up. It 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.720 needs to, and it certainly certainly needs to with new 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.920 offensive coordinator Declan Doyle says the Flowers is a high 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.040 end wide receiver number two and is being wildly undervalued 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.120 average draft position so far in the fourth round and 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.600 the seventeenth wide receiver overall. So there's a little fantasy 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.560 football focus, Matt Little, Uh. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.719 Yeah, we'll touch on that nearly every day. We'll continue to. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.160 Go through lists like that and conversations like that. Matt 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.679 at some point in the next couple weeks will have 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.680 his top ten for position or even more than sometimes 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.440 kind of your yeah, top twenty, top you know, big 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.120 board for all the fantasy football different positions. Matt and 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.920 I will certainly get to that at some point. YEA, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.880 when we come back here, though, we are going to 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.520 get back into some practice conversation. Chris Hallick is going 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.280 to join us, one of our regulars throughout the season. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.040 We'll get back with Chris and get some of his 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.640 thoughts on everything that he saw today and everything that 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:48.079 he has seen through these first four acclamation period practices 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.360 before campus goes quiet for a day tomorrow on Sunday, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.240 and then the pads go on on Monday. 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Back at camp and another year where 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.640 a lot feels and looks the same, but it's been 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.720 rather different out there on the field through these first 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:20.240 four days. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:24.000 I'd say the setting is about all that's familiar. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.120 Exactly. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.800 It's been a lot of changes, a lot of differences. 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:33.960 Everything feels a lot more fast paced. The attention to 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:38.400 detail has been the theme from talking with the players. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:40.920 Had a chance to talk with a few other players 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.040 after practice just today. And while Mike McCarthy's been the 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:49.920 only coach to really talk publicly about it, Patrick Graham 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.240 he's doing his work on the defensive side as well. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:53.560 So, yeah, a. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.320 Lot of changes, not that one's better than the other, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.720 but it's a very, very different camp, that's for sure. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.120 So a different quarterback here from last year they drafted 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.120 out of Penn State, Drew Aller. We were talking before 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.680 we hit record here that you know, some of the 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.680 things you saw at Penn State good and bad, and 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.880 it's different seeing him live. But give me your thoughts 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:14.360 on this guy. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.400 So he did the two minute drill today for the 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.760 first time, and it was very drollery. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.760 Like, which is good and bad. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:23.200 Yeah, there were. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.080 A couple of a couple of misses that you just 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.000 kind of kind of leaves you scratch on your head. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.280 But then there was one throw on fourth and ten 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.080 down the sideline back shoulder to a T Perry. I mean, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:38.640 my gosh, it was It was a dot, that's for sure. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.120 And that's kind of what you expect out of Drealer. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.880 For those who watched him at Penn State there there 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.320 were some insane throws that he made while he was 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:52.160 with the Nidney Allons, And so I honestly think if overall, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.120 not just the two minute drill, but overall, I've actually 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:59.160 thought he's been way more consistent throughout his work than 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.520 I expected him to be. I think his footwork has 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:05.440 been very very much improved from the first time. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.320 We saw him a rookie clearly, right. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.240 Yeah, he's really really been working on it. I feel 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.600 like he is in rhythm a lot more. Granted it 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.920 helps a lot when the receivers are open and on. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.400 Yeah, it so. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.800 He had one throw over the middle in a tight 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.120 window today and ended up being dropped, but it was 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.040 right where it needed to be. I actually have been 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.280 pretty impressed with Drew so far. Is he showing that like, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.200 oh my gosh, you gotta make him a starter now? No, 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.320 but he's he still looked pretty good at that. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.280 I think there's clearly something to work with there. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.960 Absolutely, And he just makes throwing the football look so effortless. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.280 And I think that's just such a. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.200 Will Howard. But it's night and day it is to me. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.840 It is when when Will is able to just drop back, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.600 get on platform and throw, he can. He can make 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.840 a lot of NFL throws, he really can. But when 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.480 it comes to anything where you're gonna have to move 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:00.680 within the pocket. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.920 Be a little off balance or out of structure. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.800 Yeah, And they were working on a drill today where 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.480 all they're doing is they're taking the snap play action 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.959 and then they get to that back foot and then 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:12.639 they have a coach come in where you have to ye, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.879 there's a huge That's where you really see the difference 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.600 between Will Howard and Drew Aller because Howard's got to 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.639 set like move out of the way, like reset to 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.080 set the feet again and then throw. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.160 It feels like it's a whole one to one thousand. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.880 It isn't, but it just feels like forever as opposed 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.800 to know. Yeah, and then you see Rogers doing it 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:31.639 like whoa well. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.800 And see that's the thing is that Drew looks more 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.280 like Aaron in that drill than anything else. And I 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.680 think that's where you really see the arm talent pop 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.080 because we all know Aaron's got one of the best 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.840 arms of all time and it's still super. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.880 Platforms and all those things like you talked about, right, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:47.679 and Drew is. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.399 Able to able to do that kind of stuff. So 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.760 I've actually been really impressed with Drew so far. Again, 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.280 not to the point where you're like, oh my gosh, 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.919 do you make him a starter right now? But I 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.880 think he's been pretty impressive thus far. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.080 You know, it is funny, we understandably, so we've spent 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.879 so much time talking about Will Howard and Drew Aller 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.240 that it feels like we've barely had any Aaron Rodgers 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.760 conversation these first four days, anything that you've been able 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.440 to observe him his former head coach. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:13.639 Like. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.520 It seems like I shouldn't say every time, because that 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.600 would be I'd be exaggerating, But it seems like a 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.240 lot of the times when you'd look up and be like, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.679 where's Aaron. Oh, he's right there with Mike McCarthy, and 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.679 then you know, twenty minutes later, wait, where's Aaron. Oh, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.080 he's over there with Mike McCarthy. Just seems like they've 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:28.720 been and again, I don't want to say attached at 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.080 the hip, because that would be that'd be over exaggerating, 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.760 but it seems like they've had real like moments of 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.240 communication all throughout practice these four days. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.199 Absolutely, I kind of expected that to happen. I know 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.440 a lot was written and said about the way things 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.920 ended in Green Bay. That was also eight years ago. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.199 A lot of time has passed since then. Regardless of 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.000 what happened what didn't happen. I'm sure anything that's been 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.000 documented about that isn't the entire truth. But what we 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.960 can see what we're actually witnessing right here every day 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.919 at Saint Vincent Collegees. The two are obviously on the 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.359 same page. They're constantly communicating. There are sometimes even that 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.920 drill I was just talking about a couple of minutes ago, 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.480 Aaron wasn't even participating in that. He's just standing there 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.280 with Mike McCarthy the entire time, you know, chatting about it, 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.919 while Mason Rudolph and Will Howard and Drew Aller are 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.680 going through those drills. So yeah, they are, They're attached 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.480 to the hip when Aaron's not, you know, participating in drills. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.800 That's kind of what I expect to happen. Mike McCarthy 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.760 is very very much an offensive coach, a quarterback driven 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.760 offensive coach, so I expect him to be working with 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.399