WEBVTT - Mamdani’s Victory: Winners, Losers, and Crashouts

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<v Speaker 1>Alzon Media. Welcome to it could Happen Here a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the wake of mom Dommy's victory. We are

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<v Speaker 1>revising the old twenty sixteen slogan to eat your pheasants,

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<v Speaker 1>drink your wine. Your days are numbered, bourgeois swine. I

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<v Speaker 1>am your host, Mio Loong with Garrison Davis looking unhappy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is actually the new mandatory greeting in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>You reed yes yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, instead of saying hi on the subway or just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to avoid each other, we have to we have

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<v Speaker 2>to all recite this now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>FDR used to call the US the forty eight states

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sovidia Seattle and I have I haven't quite

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<v Speaker 1>figured out what the version of that for New York

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<v Speaker 1>is yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, no, the New York City nationalism really is

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<v Speaker 2>a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even if the country falls, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>New York will remain as a remain as a city

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<v Speaker 2>state beacon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>See.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, I'm having to temper my sort of Chicago in

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a two two Chinese city like for this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm also having to temper my like.

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<v Speaker 3>Reflexive, uh not even reflexive.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye. Bye bye, incredibly well thought out in detailed thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>of electoralism, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So so so today today, if I have.

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<v Speaker 1>To cover electoralism positively, we're doing this in sports format.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we are, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We are looking at what's been going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to mom Donnie's when we are fully we are

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<v Speaker 1>fully doing winners and losers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be great. We're gonna have a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm still traumatized from the World Series, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really appreciate the sports framing. I actually the

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<v Speaker 2>World's World Series Game seven. I was watching it at

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<v Speaker 2>a bar and then I had to go across town

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<v Speaker 2>to a different bar because I knew Zoron was doing

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<v Speaker 2>the little gay bar hop on the same It is

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series, Melly, So I missed the last thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to leave during the ninth inning when the

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Jays were still ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then in transport the Dodgers tie. They

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<v Speaker 2>did two extra innings and then one, and it was devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I saw Bom Dottie dancing at a gay

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<v Speaker 2>club like ten minutes later.

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<v Speaker 3>It was serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Gracious, You're welcome, welcome to being a Seattle Mariners fan.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is why, yes, yes, all the time

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<v Speaker 3>for us every well aware.

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<v Speaker 2>No, of course I I what I'm not cheering for

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<v Speaker 2>the Jay is usually usually I'm cheering for the Mariners.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know well and again, the only.

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<v Speaker 1>Way to survive this is to become a truly transcendent,

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<v Speaker 1>true Mariners fan, where you were not in this for

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<v Speaker 1>winning and losing. You were in this for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we had a guy whose name was Big Dumper

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<v Speaker 1>because his ass was big as fuck and he had

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<v Speaker 1>sixty home runs.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's what you're in this game for. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna turn this around. We're gonna this round.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna actually start with winners with I think the

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<v Speaker 1>most serious thing that we're going to do today.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a high bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not a high bar. But I think, in the

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<v Speaker 1>words of the great John Boyce, this moment belongs to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's Lindsay Bolan, who was the first woman to

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<v Speaker 1>accuse Cuomo of sexual harassment, who is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bravest women I've ever seen. And she's having a great time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of pictures of her going around but

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<v Speaker 1>she's posting she's so happy it rocks.

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<v Speaker 3>She's yeah, she's just she's just having a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is like a dual pronged moment, right,

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<v Speaker 2>One prong is just seeing Andrew Cuomo get completely humiliated

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<v Speaker 2>for the second time in a row. Yes, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the whole, the whole you know, like prospective hope of

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<v Speaker 2>what a Mom Donnie mayoral occupation could.

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<v Speaker 3>Meet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a whole separate thing than just watching Cuomo

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<v Speaker 2>get absolutely decimated. Right if there was there as someone

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<v Speaker 2>who was only half as good as Momdanni who destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>Cuomo and we still it would still be fun to

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<v Speaker 2>laugh at Cuomo. The fact that it's Mumdannie is just

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of like an extra extra icing on top.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess yeah. And I want to read a quote

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<v Speaker 3>from her that she could this.

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<v Speaker 1>This this was from before especially, I could tell since

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<v Speaker 1>the actual win she's just been like partying and hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really been giving, like I think she went onto bocracy now.

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<v Speaker 1>But like she she had this great line from this

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<v Speaker 1>this piece and the Independent uh that was titled we

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<v Speaker 1>will beat these monsters.

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<v Speaker 3>And this this was from this. This is from the original.

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<v Speaker 1>Primary when I hope every woman who has ever faced

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<v Speaker 1>an abuser like Cuomo knows she doesn't have to be ashamed,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have to hide, because we will beat these monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>New Yorker said no more to Andrew Cuomo, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is just remarkable.

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<v Speaker 3>And this ship rocks, this rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck him, especially Cuomo who ran his campaign. I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's dangerous to be a woman on the subway, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're like why because you're gonna be on it, like

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<v Speaker 2>like his whole, his whole, like law and order in

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<v Speaker 2>New York is a dangerous, scary place to live because

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<v Speaker 2>there's predators out there.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a main part of his campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, four years ago he resigned because he was a predator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eleven eleven women came forward, Like that's remarkable, astounding,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know this is hopefully this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of many, many, many defeats that these fucking

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<v Speaker 1>people will have over the coming years.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully the last defeat for Cuobo, but for others of

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<v Speaker 2>his ill Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, theseus.

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<v Speaker 1>There are there are many, many people who hold a

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<v Speaker 1>whole variety of offices and sometimes are just like your

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<v Speaker 1>boss or someone you work with or someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and fuck him, we're gonna beat them all. This rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that's that's winner number one, Winter number two.

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<v Speaker 1>People with child's.

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<v Speaker 3>People with childs. Wow, people with child look, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I ye so little sleep last night. I was I

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<v Speaker 3>have no excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>I was up being extremely gay at like four in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really tired. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>People, people with children getting getting free childcare a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that is in fact really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Free childcare would be would be pretty cool. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the few things on the Momdani platform that,

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<v Speaker 2>like the governor herself is pretty pretty set on helping

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<v Speaker 2>to achieve.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know there's Spike Lee who's having a great

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<v Speaker 1>time partying, is just just just loving it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great, it's great. That's good. Yeah. Renters also good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>People people who live in rest stabilized apartments getting not

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<v Speaker 3>the rent increased and also they're being more rent controlled

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<v Speaker 3>housing built good good things, good things. People who buy food.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I say people who buy food, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>would think that's all people. Most of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be talking about on this list.

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<v Speaker 1>Those motherfuckers have not set foot in a grocery store

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<v Speaker 1>in a decade. There really truly is a classified between

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<v Speaker 1>people who buy food and people who do not ever

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<v Speaker 1>buy their own food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like around if you make around two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a year, based on the time that you

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<v Speaker 2>spend procuring your own groceries, people argue that it's more

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<v Speaker 2>efficient for you to order or have people bring food

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<v Speaker 2>to you and not do any of that work yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, so we have that, we have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think there's a sort of macro point

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<v Speaker 1>you can make here about you know, the ties between

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<v Speaker 1>affordability and the sort of the sort of politics affordability

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<v Speaker 1>and the ways in which there are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people who would affects. And then there is the top

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the US who do fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the country's consumer spending, who this is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>affect because they do fifty percent of the consumer spending

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<v Speaker 1>on bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I want to, I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna declare myself a winner because I

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<v Speaker 1>fucking hate Mody. And Zoran called Mody a war criminal

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<v Speaker 1>and specifically talked about his mass killings of Buslims and Gujarat,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the first time I've ever seen a major

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<v Speaker 1>American politician talk about that and fuck him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the butcher of Gujarat. Eat shit. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is This is a kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of short winners section, because you know, I could list

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<v Speaker 1>like people in New York City, like who aren't really rich,

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<v Speaker 1>like Harrison right, like you know, but this is mostly

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<v Speaker 1>a losers episode. This is mostly a oh my fucking god,

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<v Speaker 1>the right is doing a crash out and oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some great stuff. So I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>the losers with Laura Ingram. Who the chevron on her show?

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<v Speaker 3>Who? Who? Who? Laura Ingram? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Fox News host evil she's still Fox News.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah yeah her her Fox News thing that the

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<v Speaker 1>chevron on It was by winning, the Democrats are actually losing, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is true, God, God, I hope. So from your mouth

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<v Speaker 2>to God's ears, Laura, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most there's there's a whole genre of this.

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<v Speaker 1>If I wanted to, I literally could have just pulled

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<v Speaker 1>things that were like the Democrats are winning by actually

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<v Speaker 1>losing like that. There's like Ross Douthit, who's like the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of make work higher like he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>old school makework higher in New York Times columnists, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a very very weird Catholic who used to advocate

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<v Speaker 1>Catholics like taking the Benedict option and going into the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and not interacting with society, which please Ross Douthit

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<v Speaker 1>and your ILK.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's not very Catholic. Please do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You if you want to go argue theology with Ross,

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<v Speaker 1>do go fucking happily for.

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<v Speaker 3>Go do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like you know, doubt of the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times immediately is like, Momgani's victory is less dignificant than

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<v Speaker 1>you think, and it's like, ah, yes we are, we

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<v Speaker 1>are getting owed. We are not owned, we are not owned,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera, solely turning into a corn.

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<v Speaker 3>Cob humping the copium straight into my veins.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mm hmm. It's truly amazing stuff. I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the just pure cope vein is Did you did you

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<v Speaker 1>see the Mike Cernovich post about this?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Okay, So I'm not gonna how do

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<v Speaker 3>I say this? I'm not gonna association.

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<v Speaker 1>He's quote tweeting a video that's just like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a five minute video of like the Zetio whatever live

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<v Speaker 1>stream of the after party, and it's just Cernovich is

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<v Speaker 1>just going, this is a rowdy, masculine environment. You can

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<v Speaker 1>feel the energy as the Heritage Foundation is putting members

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<v Speaker 1>through a struggle session and demanding a deidan.

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<v Speaker 3>The left is winning true true, And then like that

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<v Speaker 3>is that is happening right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be doing a piece on the Heritage struggle sessions,

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<v Speaker 2>probably later this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And that's the that's the do we accept

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<v Speaker 1>the overt neo Nazi or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes conflict which they are very divided on, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not not a great sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta say, I gotta say, don't don't love that. But

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<v Speaker 1>in another just incredible, like I'm not mad thing. Surtvitch

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<v Speaker 1>post that and then quote tweets his own tweet and says,

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't know anything about politics, you would say

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<v Speaker 1>this is the sign I want to be on.

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<v Speaker 3>Conservative inc is joyless. It's the house of scolding bags.

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<v Speaker 3>It offers young men nothing beyond moralizing and hypocritical lecture.

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<v Speaker 2>This is probably also following the fallout of the Fuentez

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker interview and the like sectarian right yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote that's that's not really in fighting necessarily, but like

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<v Speaker 2>these these debates on on twent as his placed within

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<v Speaker 2>the Conservative Party and this argument against what I guess

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<v Speaker 2>like right wing cancel culture that you have people like

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<v Speaker 2>Vans like Matt wallsh talk about how like we should

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<v Speaker 2>not be you know, canceling people like Tucker or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these young GOP staffers, her white premacists for saying things

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<v Speaker 2>that are offensive because we need to have a united

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<v Speaker 2>front against the left versus this whole other reaction from

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<v Speaker 2>like Shapiro and you have Heritage just caught in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of this, and there's like senators and Mike Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>or who are trying to like keep this like legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>like anti semitic, but like also like anti Israel, but

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<v Speaker 2>through anti Semitism, like this anti Semitic is section of

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<v Speaker 2>the right led by front as like keep it quarantined,

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<v Speaker 2>which is increasingly breaking quarantine. So they're looking at how

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<v Speaker 2>the right has devolved into this fighting and then seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the election of Zoran and being like, oh, the grass

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<v Speaker 2>is greener on that side, I guess, which is really odd.

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<v Speaker 1>YEA, yeah, yeah, it's so funny because it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>literally just all of the shit they've been saying about

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<v Speaker 1>the left forever. They're just suddenly like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they wire the some part some of the right is

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe maybe not literally the neo Nazi. And now

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, it's actually it's actually the right that is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the house of scolding nags who offer young men nothing

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<v Speaker 1>beyond moralizing in the hypocritical lecture, which is it's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't know, it's so funny. They're they're just

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<v Speaker 1>they're just losing it insofar as there is a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of important thing here. It's that like in a moment

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, the sort of ruling party is becoming

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly unpopular, they're also fracturing from the inside to the

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<v Speaker 1>extent where like they're like worst nightmare just got elected

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<v Speaker 1>as the mayor of New York and instead of like rallying,

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing this shit. Very funny. There's been a few

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<v Speaker 1>governor reactions. I'm going to pull from The Guardian here.

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<v Speaker 1>A great abbot tweeted joined me in a moment of

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<v Speaker 1>silence for New York City, thoughts and prayers.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's been losing it over the selection.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny, it's very good. Rick Scott is the

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<v Speaker 1>Center of Florida, The Guardian. Florida has welcomed those fleeing

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<v Speaker 1>communists and socialist regimes for decades, wrote Senator Rick Scott

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida. Tonight is no different. Florida will welcome all

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<v Speaker 1>freedom loving New Yorkers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because that's very different from Abbot's promise of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to tearriff.

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<v Speaker 3>People who flee from New York to Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Abbot's like, oh shit, hold on, maybe maybe I can

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<v Speaker 1>cash in on all of this money. We're gonna We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to whether people are actually fleeing New York

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<v Speaker 1>in a later segment spoiler alert nine yet but come,

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<v Speaker 1>there is still time. If we want people to flee

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<v Speaker 1>New York, We're just gonna have to do it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of doing it ourselves, this podcast we do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the products and services support the show do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We cannot, in fact do it ourselves. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to at this point have the assistance of the

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<v Speaker 2>capitalist advertising industry. So enjoy, enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 3>We are back.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's turn to Elon Musk. Who is I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess for Elon Musk, he is kind of having

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<v Speaker 1>a normal one he is doing a bunch of his

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<v Speaker 1>normal posts about how like Western civilization is doomed unless

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<v Speaker 1>the core weakness is suicidal empathy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is recognized suicidal empathy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a very very funny segment that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to play just because like, I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not believe in exposing our dear listeners to

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<v Speaker 1>having to listen to Elon Musk try to talk because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a j Yeah, there's no him on Joe Rogan,

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<v Speaker 1>where Joe Rogan's like, Okay, why did you call him

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie a swindler? And it's just a minute straight of

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk going, uh, he has nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't even complete a full sentence. He had at

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<v Speaker 2>one point says that you know, swindlers will always say

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<v Speaker 2>what the audience wants to hear. And that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing he's he that's the only complete thought that he gives.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of his sentence or attempts at making a sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>is just saying the word like five times and then

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, well, you know, Zorn is actually quite charismatic.

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<v Speaker 1>His brain is so cooked, it's so good. It's and

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<v Speaker 1>I say this to someone who stammers a significant amount.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is just there's nothing going on in

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<v Speaker 1>his brain.

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<v Speaker 3>This is closer to head empty noe thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that empty no thoughts derogatory, which derogatory.

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<v Speaker 2>Comma bands always derogatory, always, always derogatory.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's then this sort of mix of like the

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<v Speaker 1>world is falling with this also kind of oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>he won. And also this is a very attractive charismatic dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It is kind of breaking these people's brains that there's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a hot guy who beat the shit out

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<v Speaker 1>of them. There's like there's like definitely sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>psychosexual politics going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see it in shit posting.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely would have a heyday. I don't know, would

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<v Speaker 2>have a heyday writing about the psychosexual aspect of the

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<v Speaker 2>anti Zoron and the obviously some.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the pros are unbeatful as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, this is a great things are

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<v Speaker 1>happening in politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Trump has had to defend his looks, this being

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<v Speaker 2>better than mister mum Donnie, which objectively not true, very funny,

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<v Speaker 2>saying he is quote unquote a much better look.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But they also have this weird thing that some people

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<v Speaker 2>on the left are doing. This is largely a Twitter thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but this does seep out into real world conversations, which

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've heard is thirsting after Zorn's wife and comparing

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<v Speaker 2>and comparing Zorn's wife to like like Milania or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and like in a whole bunch of really weird ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ, that's really weird. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Look how like beautiful and aristocratic Zoron's wife is versus God,

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<v Speaker 2>versus former porn star Milania Trump. And you're like, country,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Guys? Is the doing misogyny? You're doing misogyny. It's bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Simply don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do love the twenty seven year old zoomer

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<v Speaker 2>New York first Lady. Yeah, she's good for her, good

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<v Speaker 2>for her, check out her art.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to want to turn a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. He said Democrats of

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<v Speaker 1>New York have chose in a true extremists and Marxist

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<v Speaker 1>and the consequences will be felt across our entire nation.

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<v Speaker 1>He also said that Badami's policies are defunding the police,

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<v Speaker 1>seizing private property, and massive tax increases, which I fucking wish.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that does all sound kind of cool, but

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<v Speaker 2>that is that is absolutely not what Zoron's current state

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<v Speaker 2>of politics are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's also funny because this is the same

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<v Speaker 1>reaction they've had to every single Democrat who's been elected

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<v Speaker 1>in the past twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>The right has so much just sort of weird projection shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like they've been doing this whole like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you all called this fascist, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're all fascists. And it's like, no, you called Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>who was like the most neoliberal Democrat they've ever put

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<v Speaker 1>in office, maybe second only to both Clinton maybe, like

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<v Speaker 1>you called him a communist, and now it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's a democratic socialist. And you're just saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh this time, now, this time it's communism.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, okay, really.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the boy who cried will think that the right

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<v Speaker 2>does all the time. It depowers their own rhetorical tactics, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see this in a few ways. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen this in part with like the transmass shooter thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and and certainly they've been doing this thing around you

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<v Speaker 2>communism or socialism for a while, to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>you can have the mayor of New York proudly call

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<v Speaker 2>himself a socialist, a democratic socialist, and gets elected with

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<v Speaker 2>record numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things that he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with, obviously is is the financial class. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to some more weird reactions. But there's a very

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<v Speaker 1>funny NPR quote that I'm going to read. I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>gonna read this quote. I think it's the stages of grief,

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<v Speaker 1>said Karen Wilde, who runs the Partnership for New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>an influential business group that represents more than three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>large employers.

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<v Speaker 3>This is very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're fully in their like acceptance negotiation phase of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think they might not be letting

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<v Speaker 2>on the degree to which they have been in this

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<v Speaker 2>process for a while. There was like a final push

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<v Speaker 2>among like Bloomberg, who probably met with Mamdanni like months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and they like developed like a kind of like truce,

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<v Speaker 2>which Bloomberg broke in the week before the election when

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<v Speaker 2>he suddenly funneled millions of dollars into Islamophobic ads.

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<v Speaker 3>Like nine to eleven ads. But there was a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Meetings happening between Mamdani and people who would make up

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<v Speaker 2>his future administration and the business class, which have happened

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<v Speaker 2>since he won the primary in June. And this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of negotiating and bargaining has been going on for quite

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<v Speaker 2>a while. And I think the acceptance now is really

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<v Speaker 2>the final I mean, these steps aren't necessarily always always

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<v Speaker 2>like sequential. Yeah, but I think we were rapidly approaching

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<v Speaker 2>the acceptance phase across the city and people are actually

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<v Speaker 2>looking at like realistically and what the negotiating side of

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<v Speaker 2>enacting these things is going to look like, including the

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<v Speaker 2>financial people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. That that said, Ken Griffin not happy at all. No,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not happy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is this is a business Insider for the

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<v Speaker 1>people of New York. I pray that the policies Montdammy

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<v Speaker 1>uses to govern and lead New York are different than

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<v Speaker 1>the talking points he used to win the Mayo race.

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<v Speaker 3>People in New York deserve better. I do want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I did cut out the part in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>there with the Business Insider where he said this Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>at the American Business Forum in Miami.

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<v Speaker 4>Some in New York, like to say this very funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah, very funny in this sort of like crashout spectrum.

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<v Speaker 4>So the people who are like having the absolute worst

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<v Speaker 4>time are a bunch of Israeli politicians who are very

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<v Speaker 4>mad about this shocking. Yeah, I'm just go quoth to

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<v Speaker 4>Washington Post here. Israel's far right Minister of Security bang

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<v Speaker 4>Gavir said Wednesday that Mondami's win would be quote remembered eternally.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the moment when anti Semitism overcame common sense. The

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<v Speaker 4>Aspora Affairs Minister on me tried cheekly in an excoriating statement,

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<v Speaker 4>accused New York City of quote handing his keys over

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<v Speaker 4>to a Hamas supporter.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is also a giant loss.

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<v Speaker 1>For one Benjamin Nett and Yahoo who Mamdami has said

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<v Speaker 1>he will arrest That's.

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<v Speaker 3>What in New York, which rocks very funny. Will this

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<v Speaker 3>actually happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, hilarious, Yeah, I mean, these things just

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<v Speaker 2>don't work anymore, like they Yeah, you Like I watched

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<v Speaker 2>an interview with Jonathan green Blat, the head of the

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<v Speaker 2>ad L like good Morning America, like like talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this and how they're establishing me an anti Semitism monitor

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<v Speaker 2>to track the Zoran administration, and even like the hosts

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<v Speaker 2>of Good Morning America were like, come on, man, like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not he's not what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not an anti like he's he's against he's against

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<v Speaker 2>the genocide at Gaza. Like he's not. He's not like

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<v Speaker 2>a Jew hating anti semi. Yeah, and like they were

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<v Speaker 2>even getting tired of green BLAT's little like shtick and

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<v Speaker 2>how he was constantly like performing to the camera to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get people to like, I don't report incidents

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<v Speaker 2>that then they'll add into this into this monitor program,

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<v Speaker 2>so they'll try to blame them Momdani administration for not

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<v Speaker 2>protecting Jews or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This was on Mourning Joe on MSNBC, not Good Morning America.

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<v Speaker 3>My apologies.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also you know, if you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about another sort of category of losers, just like all

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<v Speaker 1>of the unhinged Islamophobia. Oh yeah, like all the people

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>spreading that got annihilated. Yeah, just absolutely smash and like

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and you know it is worth saying like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like this was one of the most racist campaigns I

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<v Speaker 1>have ever seen, but the Antrew Cuomo sort of ways

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, just hideous, more racist than Trump versus Kamala

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 2>by far. Yeah, like like exceptionally so and done by

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Democrat establishment figures largely.

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Man just rancid and they got their ash handed

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>to them. And I think that's good. There's a very

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>very public level of exceptions for soomophobia. You can just

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 1>say the most of homophobic shit anyone's ever heard on

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<v Speaker 1>TV and it's fine and no one does anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>also like, people don't fucking like that shit. It sucks,

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>it's awful, and fuck these people. And you know, I

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>think this is sort of the tide turning. Oh and

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>speaking of the tide turning, Bill Ackman, as we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on Ed, bending the knee, saying Congress are on

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<v Speaker 1>what donnity congrats on the wind. Now you have a

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<v Speaker 1>big responsibility if I could help New York City, just

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>let me know what I can do.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good.

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<v Speaker 1>So to sort of close out this, like the losers section,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to turn. There's a great piece and defector

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<v Speaker 1>about the people who've threatened to leave New York City

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.919
<v Speaker 1>if Mom Donnie won and unfortunately reached out for comment,

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>none of them were actually leaving.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It's really sad because people don't want to leave the city.

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 2>It's a good city, which is the whole point of

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Zoron's campaign was about how much of the city is

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<v Speaker 2>cool and rocks and Quebo's campaigns, but how much it's

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<v Speaker 2>bad and scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And unfortunately, tragically this does mean that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to have Dave Portney and this whole this

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>whole crew of Barshaal dipshits still in the city. So

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>good luck. I hope you appropriate them. I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>hope they have.

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<v Speaker 3>A bad time now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want I want to move into my last category,

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>which is the sort of baffling category. We got a

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of wild Obama quote quote, the future looks a

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit brighter. It's a reminder that when we come

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<v Speaker 1>together around strong, forward looking leaders who care about the

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>issues that matter, we can win.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a very silly quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I the odds Obama personally had at least one person

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<v Speaker 1>on that campaign staff, Beat and Durat Occupy are very high.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really truly this moment of like, brother, you spent

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 1>so much time trying to make sure this wouldn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have failed, and now you're in the like

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do the Obama thing where like I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>friend of all the young leaders, and I'm going to

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>give them the worst advice you've ever heard in your

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>entire life. I don't know, still still still have never

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<v Speaker 1>gone over Obama personally intervening to make sure the NBA

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>players didn't go on strike during the uprising. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the worst like post presidential moments I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to close on Jamie Diamond, the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>JP Morgan Chase, who when I asked why mont Donnie said, quote,

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>he's a young man. Will he get good at it?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't said about montdonneie making and implementing good policies.

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<v Speaker 1>I see a lot of people in big jobs, including

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>big political jobs, they grow into it. I've seen a

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of people they kind of swell into the job,

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they get worse, they you know, all of it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>about them. I'm hoping he's the good one and that

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<v Speaker 1>will be important for the future in New York. He said, true, true,

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<v Speaker 1>and real.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I mean like there's a lot of this slow capitulation,

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.719
<v Speaker 2>which we're even seeing with private comments from Trump that

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>are being leaked into reporting through the New York Times,

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 2>where in private Trump has called mister mom and Donnie

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>a slick and good talker and a talented politician, and

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the last Wednesday said that he might quote help him

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, maybe unquote, and that he wants New

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>York to succeed, which is, you know, contrary to like

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>previous threats of like pulling back all funding if I'm

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Donnie gets elected.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think part of part of this reaction is both like

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>how strong Zorn's victory is. We all like know that

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Trump likes winners, but also the fact that Zorn has

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<v Speaker 2>like very quickly tried to establish dominance over the president

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>in some ways mm hmm, in a way that like

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>someone like Trump like kind of respects with mym notty

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>positioning himself as like a legitimate like adversarial figure to Trump. Yeah,

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>like right off the bat. And there's a little bit

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>of the Trumpian mind that actually kind of appreciates that

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and thinks it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like cool and impressive.

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>During the first Trump administration that there was a whole

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>running theory that if you could get Trump in a

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>room with Hugo Chavez, you could make him a socialist

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 1>in like an hour, because he really does just repeat

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the last thing.

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Anyone in a room said to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're like, we're finally going to test the theory

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>of can't we get a charismatic person in the room

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<v Speaker 1>with him and make him do stuff he would normally

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>do and probably not?

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I mean, and like the biggest thing

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>right now is like the difference in immigration policy.

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 3>But like Trump's from New York.

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Trump knows how much New York is a city built

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>by and run by immigrants, Like he knows that when

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miller is like orchestrating all his messaging, it's like

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the worst of the worst of the anti immigrant stuff.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>But I think in terms of Zorn's opposition to Trump

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>primarily being with immigration, I think Trump understands how immigration

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>like rests very importantly into the identity of New York

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>in which with that's like the main oppositional force. I

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 2>think Trump similarly we is gonna understand where mom Donnie

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>is coming from in a way.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think I think we are going to

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>see like a particularly like Stephen Miller, Oh yeah, conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>As this goes on, absolutely, because this is the perfect

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>example of stuff that Miller and people like Matt Walsh

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>and like the Great Replacement people have been talking about.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>And the other huge batch of reactions that you're seeing

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>from people like Walsh is that this election only went

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>this way because of how many foreigners were allowed to

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>vote in New York.

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>If this election was done by true New Yorkers quote

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>unquote yep, then Quotmo would have won. And looking the

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>results of this election, looking at how many immigrants voted,

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>people who have moved to New York in the past

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>ten years, past five years, Mam Donnie did very well

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>with with those groups. You have a lot of these

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>like far right anti immigration people pointing towards that as

0:30:58.200 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>being like this is what we're trying to defend the

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>country against or else all of our elections are going

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.239
<v Speaker 2>to go like this, Yeah, unless we make sure that

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 2>only white Americans can vote.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then and so there's there's that reaction water sign.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>The other the the the other reaction from roughly that

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>crowd is women cannot be allowed to vote.

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes to which they also they also believe that like yeah, yeah,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>this analysis obviously has faults, but it's it's even falling

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>apart in terms of like the young male vote. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>they got hammered, which the Republicans have, you know, have

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>been been very very excited about about how much you know,

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>young men are voting for the Republican Party, right, young

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>young men are all Republican, even even if young women

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>are all the Democrats. And you see in specifically this

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 2>election where Mam Donnie is up forty percent with young men,

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>and the divide among men is mostly through age, with

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>older men going going for Cuomo and millennials and gen

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Z men swinging very strongly towards Mamdani. You have all

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 2>these like Democrats trying to figure out, how do we

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 2>attract the young male vote, how do we do this?

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And you have a guy show you what kind of policies,

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>what kind of messaging works exceedingly well, Yeah, which just happens.

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Wh people tried so hard to kill that strategy, and

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>it was proven twice in a row, first with the

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 2>primary and even more so with the general.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, that will frighten the GOP.

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 2>It'll frighten them seeing that young men will vote for

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>a Democratic socialist if they actually have these policies and

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>you have this type of like solid messaging they're not condescending,

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>and the candidate embodies like a new generation of change.

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>It's very threatening to the GOP and to establishment Democrats.

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like like I've see Steve Bannon's out here

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>being like if he loves in the midterms and losing

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty eight, I'm going to prison, which from your

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>own to.

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 3>God here, So like.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest mistake the Democrats made last time, well, there's many,

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 2>many big mistakes, right, Palestine being a huge one, But

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I think a huge mistake they made. It's not completely

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>destroying Trump and his whole like caviit's ability to like

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>exist in public life. Like they he Trump should have

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>been immediately in prison for trying to overthrow the government

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>and basically set into a whole and after that Supreme

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Court ruling on presidential community, it should have like been

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>taken out as like a national security threat. Like Democrats

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 2>cannot cannot play this like they go low, we go

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>high game anymore if we're going.

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>To get out of this, and it's it's probably not

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>given me the Democrats. You do this, but like are

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Nuremberg is going to have to make the original Nuremberg

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>look like paper clip?

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Like well, that's what the original Nuremburg was. The original

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Nuremberg also sucked. See that we are are Nerdberg to

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Nurnberg harder. I see, Yeah, I'm actually doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I really like Jacob Geller's video on Nuremberg, and it

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>is it is a nice emotional play stuff fall back

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>on in times of of torment. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna Nuremberg ourselves out of this one. And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a very strong solid alternative at the moment.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 2>But at the very least Trump should have been treated much,

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 2>much harsher after January sixth.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we can leave it as for now Nuremberg to

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 3>warns and ascent into Nuremberg. Well, this has been a

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<v Speaker 3>can happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Here are a rare upbeat episode where all of our

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>enemies are having a very bad time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're also mad about Lena Khan on the Transition team.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, very funny. They're so very mad, very mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Transition twenty twenty five to learn more about

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<v Speaker 2>Zoron's Transition team. A fantastic url really really going.

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<v Speaker 3>For it Transition twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five stealing tread valor true real You go girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I give Zora on the past. You can say it estrogen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, he's fine as he is.

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<v Speaker 3>For Transit the company. He's actually a good looking man.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't need it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually he's actually figured it out.

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