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Speaker 1: This is definitely a laxative.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a

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Speaker 2: very special guest. Grammy Award winning Lecree is in the building.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the building, man, I'm in the building.

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Speaker 2: This is extremely cool for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. This is cool for me too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw you you start getting into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. This is cool. Man. I had to, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, get to.

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Speaker 3: Come back to my roots a little bit. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: see how this tastes after all.

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Speaker 2: This time, after all, so how many years before you

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Speaker 2: tell us what the dishes? How many years has it been.

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Speaker 1: Man? Solid? Thirty years probably, geez. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like for real, we're gonna see if your stomach

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Speaker 2: can handle this today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all good. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm not gonna go crazy. I'm gonna just

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this ain't really a cheat meal, so you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, This is not cheating at all.

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Speaker 2: Fact, So why don't you go ahead and tell us

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Speaker 2: what you're gonna have us eating today?

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Speaker 3: Okay, what we're gonna have today is we're gonna have,

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Speaker 3: you know, some pork and beans with the hot dogs.

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Speaker 3: When you put them together, you get what's called beanie weans.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have the beanie weenies, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And then we got spinach, but not just any spinach,

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Speaker 3: the can spinish because my mama wanted to make sure

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Speaker 3: that I have my vegetables as a kid.

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Speaker 1: So I ate vegetables out of a.

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Speaker 3: Can can spinish and canned corn whole hole hole green giant.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So can corn, can spin and it was a whole

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Speaker 3: healthy meal.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You get a little you know, carbs with your beans,

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Speaker 3: You get your protein, you get your vegetables, a little

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Speaker 3: carbs with the coin.

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Speaker 1: Hey we in there. And then just to be fancy

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Speaker 1: for y'all.

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Speaker 3: I got a little brown sugar, just a little, but

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Speaker 3: it's that's something we wouldn't have did that.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have no brown sugar to waste on them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we're not gonna use a brown sugar. We

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Speaker 2: want to take it all all. We want to we

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Speaker 2: want to feel it. We want to feel it. With

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Speaker 2: your stories, go ahead, start whipping it up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh easy, So we're gonna start right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I switch those out for turkey dogs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know that's your fancy you're doing fancy things.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna just right off the bat.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You're gonna you're gonna cut

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Speaker 3: these down sides, So we gonna chop these down the

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Speaker 3: you can't get a whole hot.

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Speaker 1: Dog in there.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna feel like you got a lot of food.

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Speaker 3: But you just you know what I'm saying, We gotta

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Speaker 3: faster when they.

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Speaker 1: Cut up like this.

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Speaker 2: How often would you say you were eating this back then?

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Speaker 1: This is normal?

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Speaker 3: So this was I mean, just childhood, because you gotta

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Speaker 3: This is quick, and it's cheap.

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Speaker 2: Really cheap, so it's like super cheap.

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Speaker 1: So we're not gonna do it them all because you know,

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Speaker 1: eat those turkey dollars later, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You men want to eat that a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: But then let's see here, this is the stove is

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And then we just gonna skill it these boys up

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Speaker 3: those you know, cook while os is in there cooking.

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Speaker 3: Then we'll we'll move on to the vegetable.

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Speaker 2: Bles, okay, And do you mix your vegetables your spinach

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Speaker 1: No, separate, you know what I'm saying. Separate.

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Speaker 3: I don't want like, I don't want them touching. So

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Speaker 3: generally there's gonna be a little liquid in those cans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to drain them for you.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, though you don't eat all of it,

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Speaker 3: want it to burn. So I just took a little

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Speaker 3: And then with your spinach. So the way that my

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Speaker 3: mama got me was to watch Popeye the Sailor Man

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Speaker 1: Was Popeye spinach.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't like vegetables, but she got me to

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Speaker 1: So then I ate it.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I did not know till today

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Speaker 2: I did not know till today that Popeye's is an

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Speaker 2: actual spinach brand. You're spinach. I did not know. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: learn something every every day.

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Speaker 3: Now see, unless you buy like certain brands, it's generally unseasoned.

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Speaker 3: So even though I don't know, still sodium in there

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Speaker 1: So I got some season in the day.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But this is not this

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Speaker 3: is this is a little fancier, but it's still good.

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Speaker 3: you got your can corn. Who ho, hold green giant.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Put that caned corn in there,

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Speaker 2: We gonna we're gonna be good today. So take me

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Speaker 2: back to what was going on during this time of

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Speaker 2: pork and beans, spinach and corn.

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Speaker 3: So I would come home from school, just like elementary school.

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Speaker 1: my pops separated.

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Speaker 3: So they don't know if they still have that, but

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Speaker 3: You can hear a little sizzle, so I can smell

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Speaker 3: But we just gonna let it simmer. That's what we're

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Speaker 2: We need a little bring back real memories for you.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean I haven't eaten like this and forever,

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Speaker 2: Sure, well you you have children now, you don't ever say, hey,

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Speaker 3: During COVID, every thing was like on short supply, So

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Speaker 3: So I got the can spinach, I got the can vegetables,

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Speaker 1: Then you put that in some oil, you let it

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Speaker 3: It gets a little soft, and then you chop up

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Speaker 2: They loved it, really, they loved it.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, it's it's it's it's too much

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Speaker 3: sodium in this, y'all can't y'all should not be eating

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Speaker 1: It's too much sodium in here.

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Speaker 2: But now, isn't the sodium This is just a random

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Speaker 2: sidebar question, but isn't the sodium in the packet of seasoning.

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Speaker 2: It's not considered not in the.

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Speaker 1: You know, you use the seasoning though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that's the key to the secret stirf.

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Speaker 2: I is it the seasoning I use.

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Speaker 1: I would use some of it, not all of it.

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Speaker 1: I try to use half of the seat. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my son still would eat ram noodles to this day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, who doesn't love ram?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I still eat them to this day.

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Speaker 1: Never?

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Speaker 3: You learn to deal with those wombs and then you

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Speaker 2: But did you face that? INTI your battle of like

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Speaker 1: She didn't have a conversation. She didn't have But now

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Speaker 3: Put a little bit of this slappy my mom here

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Speaker 3: And I don't do that now, Like that's not why

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So it was that fuel in that well, I got

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Speaker 3: And so now you know, for me, I know God

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Speaker 3: But as a kid, oh man, it messed me up,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So now let's go to the next pivotal

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so I started rapping as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Just fell in love.

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Speaker 3: I stayed up after that every night watching rap videos.

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Speaker 3: Rap music probably like seven eight years old, and about ten,

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Speaker 3: I was writing my own.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to impress the girls in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I remember writing a song to this girl, Trina. It

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Speaker 3: It was just me trying to But that's really what

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Speaker 2: So what do you think about about the rap music

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Speaker 3: I think it was like I could see, I could relate.

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Speaker 3: I saw pictures of myself. I saw like Tupac was

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Speaker 3: I just connected, you know, in a deep way because

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Speaker 3: It was like, y'all wanna help people with your music,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Did you grow up in any type of religious type

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Speaker 3: So the funny thing about it is my mom grew

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Speaker 3: It's like religious cult like type of but you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I did see her lifestyle and that was inspiring.

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Speaker 3: Her lifestyle was like feed the homeless, take care of people.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I didn't know you were from La La.

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Speaker 3: We would You know, my grandmother she didn't she just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when would you go around your mom

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Speaker 3: Really because to me, religion just seemed like Grandma's like

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Speaker 3: It was like, eh, my mom was like big on education,

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Speaker 3: So you know, let me tell you something funny as

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Speaker 3: we're making this. I have eaten this a million times.

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Speaker 3: probably what I did. I probably put the hot dogs

443
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 3: in the microwave.

444
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 2: And now is that you're realizing that because you're looking

445
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 2: at it and you're like, I don't know if this

446
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 2: was is supposed to.

447
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 1: Look it don't look I don't remember looking like this,

448
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking of it.

449
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, because I didn't

450
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 3: really make it. My mom made it pretty most part.

451
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 3: But I think I put it in a microwave. I'm

452
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 3: pretty sure I put it in a microwave.

453
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, especially if you said you've been

454
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 2: cooking it from very young. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I feel

455
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 2: like her trusting you with the stove.

456
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,959
Speaker 1: Nah, I put everything in the microwave. I sure did.

457
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 1: I was a microwave baby microwave. But I can cook though, Okay,

458
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean I can cook. What I can cook, Okay.

459
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say like, if if I know how

460
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 3: to cook it, it's gonna be good.

461
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 1: Ok That's what I'll say.

462
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: Because we had garlic powder back, that we had onion

463
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: powder backs all these seasons. He grabbed the slavy o mama.

464
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 2: Guys trying to judge, But that's like, if you can't cook,

465
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 2: trust in this, Oh.

466
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,360
Speaker 3: For sure, Oh for sure, then that then that being

467
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 3: the case, I cannot cook because slapyr Mama does the

468
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: work for me.

469
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: For sure.

470
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 3: Slappy Mama doesn't work for me. Yeah, my wife can cook,

471
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm not. I mean I can grill, though, play.

472
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: With me on the grill.

473
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 2: I love how you're slowly walking it back because.

474
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying I can cook what I can cook.

475
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 3: I can fry some chicken, I can make spaghetti okay,

476
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 3: I can make burritos and tacos okay.

477
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: And then I can grill everything else.

478
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm saying, Some vegetables, some sides, gotcha.

479
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: So when you were first saying that you would spend

480
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: time with your grandma in between your grandma and your mom,

481
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: I just assumed they lived close together. No, so you

482
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: would get on a plane and.

483
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: Go for like since a little kid. So that was

484
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: a crazy thing too.

485
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: It's like I'll fly by myself, like she would work

486
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: two jobs and then pay half the ticket. My grandma

487
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: may pay the other half of the ticket, and then

488
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: I would hop on a plane by myself since a

489
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 3: little kid.

490
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 2: Like.

491
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: So I remember flying with the flight attendant, playing like cards.

492
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: With 'em, you know what I'm saying.

493
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 3: But I would stay for months at a time, so

494
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: it really wasn't like a couple times we drove, but

495
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: like very.

496
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: Few, you know what I mean.

497
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember that like and I loved it.

498
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: The only the reason why I didn't stay. I remember

499
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: around fourteen, the gang started taking over and the gang culture.

500
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: Started pulling me in a little too strong.

501
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 3: So my mom was like, hey, it's we gonna change

502
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 3: the scene up. You know what I'm saying, It's time

503
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 3: to change stuff up. And I kicked and screamed, I rebelled.

504
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: But was your attitude at home slowly starting to shift

505
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: a little bit? They were pick it.

506
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my attitude at home. I mean the clothes

507
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 3: I was wearing, the rags hanging out of my pocket,

508
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 3: the graffiti in the in on the streets getting brought

509
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: home by the police.

510
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you and your grandma called it.

511
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: In No, I would get my My grandma was kind

512
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 3: of oblivious to it. So my uncle's my uncle was

513
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: like a a a reputable gang member in the neighborhood.

514
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 3: So I followed after him a lot. He was like,

515
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: like my dad. He's only ten years older than me,

516
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: but he was like my dad. So he's like, you know,

517
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 3: this is what this is, this is what that is.

518
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say all the things he showed me,

519
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: but he showed me a lot of things that you know,

520
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: you just typically don't show a kid. Yeah, And from there,

521
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: you know, I just started to move down that path.

522
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: And my mom saw.

523
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 3: That and she was like, this is not what I

524
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: want for you. So then she moved and then I

525
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: and it was like, I c I didn't go back

526
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: to California again.

527
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: For probably good gracious I was. I was in Texas.

528
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: I probably didn't go back from fourteen till nineteen.

529
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: Wow. She was like, this is not happening for you.

530
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: Pivotal time.

531
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: No fourteen, good job, mom, shout out to you. Yeah

532
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: for real, Yeah, so you go back to Texas? How

533
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: are you feeling Texas? Are you coming with that same attitude?

534
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: I tried. But here's the thing.

535
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 3: She got remarried and he got a good job, right,

536
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: and so we moved to a nicer area.

537
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot of money, we didn't have

538
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: any furniture, but we lived in a nicer area. So

539
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: it was kind of like.

540
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: That type of energy was weird, you know what I'm saying,

541
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 3: Because it was like, it's like, why are you trying

542
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: to be the toughest.

543
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Dude in a nicer area? You know what I'm saying.

544
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 3: It's like, why are you trying to be the hardest

545
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 3: dude in Pasadena?

546
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like what's going on here?

547
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's kind of what

548
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: it felt like.

549
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: And so I just I kind of started thinking about it,

550
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: and just I was around different types of people, like

551
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: folks who were trying to do something with their life.

552
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 3: And on a street narrow, a lot of the kids

553
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: were talking about going to college, and I was like, man,

554
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: you know, it was kind of like, you know, like

555
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: changing my perspective. So I started to mature being around that.

556
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: And then I had teachers who actually cared about me,

557
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: and they weren't, you know. So my first year I

558
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: failed everything almost I.

559
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: Had, like I failed almost every class.

560
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: But then as I kept progressing, I would do better.

561
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 3: Teachers cared about me, invested in me. And one teacher said, man,

562
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: you got a gift in you know, like acting, and

563
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 3: she was like, you should pursue this, and so I

564
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: actually I pursued it. I started, you know, getting involved

565
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: in like school plays, and which is weird.

566
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed. I didn't tell anybody, you know what

567
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I was like, you.

568
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: Didn't tell anybody as in family members.

569
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: No, like people in my friends in the school, because

570
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: I was the plays weren't performed. We only did one

571
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: play in front of the whole school, and I was

572
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: embarrassed about it. But I was like, it's all good.

573
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: I just I'm gonna do it. But but I but

574
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: I knew I had something because everybody was like, you

575
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: got something. And then and they encouraged me to audition

576
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: for a scholarship and I did it on a whim

577
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: and got a full ride.

578
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: Are you serious? And just to backtrack with your stepfather

579
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: at the time being a provider, was your mom more

580
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: hands on with you. Would you say during that era she.

581
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: Still had to work. She worked a lot still, but

582
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 3: she was home more. For sure, she was home more.

583
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: She still had to work, she was home more.

584
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: You know.

585
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: He was really traditional. He was kind of like they weren't.

586
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a healthy environment. It still was like

587
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: you know how they say you could take them out

588
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: the hoods, You can't take the hood out of them.

589
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 3: So it's like it's like, yeah, you went from Compton

590
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: to Pasadena, but you still brought Compton with you to Pasadena,

591
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: and so still like some stuff in the house wasn't bad,

592
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't good.

593
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: So that obviously that relationship dissolved. But yeah, man, I

594
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: think she.

595
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: You know, she's always been solid, just been stamped.

596
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: She's a fighter, she's a grinder. That the spirit of hustle.

597
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: She put that in me. You know what I'm saying.

598
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Now, were you still doing rap music at that time

599
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: during like the whole acting error too?

600
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: I was, but I kind of put it on the

601
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: back burner, you know, and I put it on the

602
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: back burner.

603
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: I started.

604
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm in school right now, so I'm acting and I'm

605
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: rapping on the side. I'm doing a lot of stupid

606
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: stuff on the side.

607
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest with.

608
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the stupid stuff just a little bit.

609
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: You're trying to get the whole testimony, and I gotta

610
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: story testimony with you.

611
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah.

612
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: You can.

613
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna serve you up. Let me hold on.

614
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: Let me see my little business line out.

615
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: I was the whole time. I was like, I wonder

616
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: if no, no.

617
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: No, I take my business line out real quick. Okay.

618
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: So here's the thing, though, I gotta sample it, make

619
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: sure it's like I got sample it to make sure

620
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: it's right.

621
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: Because there's not too much a slap your moment.

622
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't trust.

623
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 3: I don't trust that it's gonna be just right unless

624
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: I sample it myself.

625
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: You can't really mess with corn, can you.

626
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not supposed to be able to. But

627
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: mm hmm, it's it's not slipping. But it's cool. It's cool.

628
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: I told him that I was gonna judge it, so

629
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: he's putting extra you know.

630
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: Now, this I didn't season at all. This is this

631
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: don't look like my mama's.

632
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: It looks is it too saucy?

633
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: It looks it looks very get hurt. No, I mean,

634
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: it just looks like it got too hot at the bottom.

635
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: But it's all good. We're gonna we're gonna burn it.

636
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: I didn't burn it, but definitely.

637
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: Here I'm gonna slide.

638
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: It's definitely not like you know what I'm saying me.

639
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: Get you it's hot dogs in there.

640
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how hungry you are, giving you sample, give.

641
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: Me sample size. You want to save my stomach just

642
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: in case.

643
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, nah, I think it's gonna be straight, but

644
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: you know, you never know, you ever know.

645
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: There we go.

646
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: I had Beanie weenies at first.

647
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: And then cool. Now the stoves turned off. You can

648
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: getting closer to this, mica.

649
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: Okay, bam bam, make sure it's off. All right.

650
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: Here we go, guys, we're gonna sample spinach first.

651
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, now about the spinach. Like I said, I didn't

652
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: put the butter on youre like I should have. But

653
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: you know it's all good.

654
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: That's good.

655
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm saying. It gets a job done.

656
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: Your mom said it was it was better than the

657
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: Did you say it was better than by the way

658
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: he phoned his.

659
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: Mama, I did. I had to. I had to hit mama.

660
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: Spinach is good. Yeah, no, no, I think I like the

661
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: believe he spinach.

662
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I do too. Year that up.

663
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is like extra muskey. Yeah, this is

664
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: the pork and beans, not baked beans.

665
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: Guys.

666
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, good, great job. It's the only thing you

667
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: didn't season.

668
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything to this, but I never have

669
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: season this my mama, and I don't think she sees it.

670
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: It's really good with the hot dogs, all right, corn,

671
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: But I would have put butter.

672
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: In that too.

673
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Now I notice he doesn't mix his stuff up at

674
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: all in real life too.

675
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: Not no, not really, I can, but I don't. I'm

676
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: kind of like OCD like that.

677
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: Corn is phenomenal. All right, guys, look break and good.

678
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 2: You know, as long as you have slapped your mom

679
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: in the kitchen, he could cook. I'm just messing with it, right.

680
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: This is a great dish, and you know what, I

681
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: would just mix it all together on one four.

682
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: There you got. You can do that. I mean, that's

683
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that.

684
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: Look at that.

685
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the funny thing about you?

686
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: This is a great dish. It works, and it's affordable.

687
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: So if you guys are pursuing your dreams out there.

688
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: They're going through hard times. This is a totally fine dish.

689
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: You know, It's funny because when I, like I was

690
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 3: telling you I was doing a bunch of stupid stuff

691
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't. It's funny because I was. I was

692
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: I was fake rich because I was making money fast

693
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: the wrong way.

694
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's what type of stuff.

695
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, making money fast the wrong way and hustling and

696
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: doing dumb stuff.

697
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: But in a good neighborhood you were doing that?

698
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

699
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: Well really, really what happened? So this is the funny

700
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: part about it is I should have seen opportunity. Instead

701
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: I saw a lick.

702
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: I saw like, oh, victims, you know what I mean.

703
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: So it was kind of like I took advantage of that,

704
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: and it was like, y'all people, it's it's car doors

705
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: that are unlocked, Like y'all are crazy, Like that's my opportunity.

706
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: And then you know, I just saw I was just

707
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: always looking for opportunities. That's one thing I will say

708
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: is like I was looking for opportunity. I've always been

709
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: that type of person, like where's the opportunity for me

710
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: to do what I need to do. I just was

711
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: doing it in the wrong way, you know what I mean. So,

712
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: so I remember I moved out. I moved in with

713
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: my friend. This was I was going to drop out

714
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: of school and moved in with my friend and we

715
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: were doing some stupid stuff and I go, So what

716
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: I would used to do is I would throw these parties.

717
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I would get a bunch of high school kids.

718
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm fresh out of I'm in college, like my second

719
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: year in college or something like that.

720
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like twenty out of college. Yeah, out of college. Okay.

721
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: I was like, what happened?

722
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: So I'm promoting these parties. And what I would do

723
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: with the parties was when you come to the party,

724
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: I will sell you some things when you get to

725
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: the party, you know what I mean. And that's kind

726
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: of how I would move. So I was, you know,

727
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: we were promote these parties. You make all this money.

728
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: You got thousands of dollars on you one night, we

729
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: made all this money. And then we get outside after

730
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: the party's over at the windows because we have put

731
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: the money in the trunk and somebody had smashed through

732
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: the window, opened up the back of the cars the

733
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: seat figured out how to do that and took all

734
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: the money out the trunk.

735
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: So, oh, I know what you do?

736
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

737
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I thought you were going to say they

738
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: the Nah, they.

739
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: Just came through the back and took the money out

740
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: the trunk. So now thousands of dollars are gone. So

741
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: now I'm like, man, you know that was really frustrating.

742
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: But I should have learned my lesson because at this time,

743
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: I feel like God was dealing with me.

744
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: But I just wouldn't listen. I wouldn't learn my lesson.

745
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: And then I go to the school that same week

746
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: and I'm going to pass out flyers. I got some

747
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: stuff in my car that I should not have in

748
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: my car, if you know what I'm saying. And I'm

749
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: in the school passing out these flyers and I see

750
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: the campus, like not the campus, but like the high school,

751
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: like security whatever you call the people that walk around

752
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: the high school. And they spot me, but I'm thinking

753
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: I blend in. I look young enough. I'm thinking they're not.

754
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: I'm blend in. But then he keeps walking toward me,

755
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, shoot, let me get up out

756
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: of here.

757
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: Wait, this isn't you're going to high schools to do.

758
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to high school. So school gets out, so

759
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: I'm trespassed. All I'm all bad that line, I'm all bad,

760
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: but I'm not. I'm just thinking I've done it a

761
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: million times, so you just you're dumb. You're young too,

762
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: you're nineteen, You're dumb. So I'm on the campus and

763
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: then I'm trying to pass out the flyers and then

764
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: I see the officer looking at me and he's walking

765
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: toward me, and then so I just I cut out.

766
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: Well apparently I don't know how they did it, but

767
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 3: he had radioed to somebody else. So as soon as

768
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: I got out the door, the police were just sitting

769
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: outside waiting for me. So they was like, hey, you

770
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: can't be on school property. You don't go to the school.

771
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking they're just gonna kick me out. That's

772
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: all good, you know, just let me, just let me go, man,

773
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: I won't come back. I won't come back.

774
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: They said no.

775
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: They cut me up. They put me in the back

776
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: of the police car. So then they go search my car.

777
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: My goodness.

778
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: Now the crazy part about it is in my car

779
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: I have things I should I have, and I also

780
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: have my grandmother the Bible. My grandmother gave me so

781
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: she gives me this Bible and it was like a

782
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: good luck charm. But at the time I had really

783
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: been trying to learn more about God and I was

784
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: reading through it, even highlighting underlining some stuff.

785
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: So it was used, you see what I'm saying.

786
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: So the police officer he comes back to the police

787
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: car and he's like, he's like, that's your Bible in

788
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: the car. I said yes, sir. He was like, you

789
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: need to stay in that Bible. I see you've been

790
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: reading it. I said yes, sir. He said, I need

791
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: you to stay in that Bible. I don't want to

792
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: see you no more. And I was like, okay. So

793
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh, he didn't find the stuff. Thank god,

794
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: I'm free. He lets me out the car. I go

795
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: back to my car. The stuff is gone, the car

796
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: is running through but the Bible is sitting out there.

797
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: And so to me, it was like, all right, that

798
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: was my sign.

799
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm just curious a bat. What was

800
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: causing that little bit of curiosity into the Bible to

801
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: begin with.

802
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: I think I was just going through a lot.

803
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: I was depressed, I was going through hard times, had

804
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: a pregnancy scare with my girl at the time, and

805
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: I was just in a dark place, you know. I

806
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: had gotten into some some fights and just the money's gone.

807
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about dropping out of school. I was dealing with.

808
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: Depression and no, no, no, I didn't have pregnancy scare.

809
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: I got my girl pregnant and then I forced her

810
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: to get an abortion. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

811
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: So it wasn't even pregnancy scary. It was like I

812
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: forced her. I'm dealing with that. She was crying, she's

813
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: depressed about it. I was like, man, it was no

814
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: other way, you know. So my life just felt like

815
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: this is going downhill, you know, And it just felt like, man,

816
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: I'm just like what am I doing with myself? And

817
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: I felt like that was like almost like God saying,

818
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: I'm giving you another opportunity, you know what I'm saying, Like,

819
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm giving you a second chance to like really turn

820
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: things around. And so I think for me, that was

821
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: a pivotal moment. I mean, now at this point in

822
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: time I had you know, it didn't all happen in

823
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: like order like this, but this whole season, Yeah, basically

824
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: what ended up happening to top it all off, Not

825
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: only does that happen, but then I just stumble into

826
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: a church. I'm like, young, I'm like, I don't know.

827
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: The people just started showing me love. I ended up

828
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: going back to the campus and then you.

829
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: Know, some young you know, Christian starts showing me love

830
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: as well, and I'm like, this is weird.

831
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: But it was just a beautiful time where people embraced

832
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: me and just were showing me love and they weren't beat.

833
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: Me over the head with stuff, and it was just

834
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: it was just love.

835
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: It was the family that I wanted growing up but

836
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: I didn't have because I was at home by myself

837
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: a lot of times.

838
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: My mom loved me, for sure, but she had to work.

839
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

840
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: No male figures ever showed me any love, said my uncle,

841
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: and he was going down a dark path himself. You know,

842
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: he's rehabilitated, thank the Lord. You know, he's on a

843
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: straight arrow now. And then my dad's not in my life.

844
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: So I just wanted a sense of belonging, you know,

845
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: to feel like I mattered. And this this community of

846
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: people show me that I that they loved me and

847
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: that I mattered. So I was open to listening to

848
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: what what y'all talking about? Like give me the God stuff.

849
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

850
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now.

851
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: As you got into the church, more were you exposed

852
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: to there's I love love, love, love love this story.

853
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: I was a later Christian. I'm Jewish and Jamaican, grewup

854
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: Jewish and Jamaican later Christians.

855
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of good food on your side,

856
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: both sides.

857
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: I don't know about the Jewish side.

858
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: They got that bread man. Bread is good.

859
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: Okay. But now, and I have to dig into this

860
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: a little bit because even when I first came to God,

861
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: there was like churches full of love, full of love,

862
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: and then you did have the churches that were very

863
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: rigorous in their like the upward Walk or whatever rules.

864
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: And then you get exposed to quote unquote you know

865
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: the I kind of compare the more to like the

866
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: the parent Pharisees and the and that that's a conflicting

867
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: thing to be exposed to. Did you get exposed to

868
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: all that in that in that error?

869
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: And I didn't because it was mostly just the love,

870
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: because it was a lot of young people who see

871
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: The thing that that made me say I didn't want

872
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: to like really follow God is because I didn't see

873
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: people who look like me, just young people who just

874
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: like looked like me, was dealing with the same type

875
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: of stuff I was dealing with. But when I saw him,

876
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: I said, oh, well, if y'all can follow God, so

877
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: goodnight in you know.

878
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: Oh, it went from like a grandma situation exactly like us.

879
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the grandma's stuff and shout out to my grandmother.

880
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: She's great. But I'm saying, like that idea of what

881
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: it looked like. I wasn't rocking with that. But when

882
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: I saw it meet me where I was at, it

883
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: was cool.

884
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Down the line.

885
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ran into more people who were like you know,

886
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: especially when I started doing music, when I changed my

887
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: music up.

888
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: So now I changed my music and I start rapping,

889
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: and I graduate school, I get a job.

890
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 3: It's crazy part I I couldn't find a job when

891
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: I graduated college. So I was a cableman, but I

892
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: was a hustler. So one time the vice president of

893
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: the cable company came in to talk to us all

894
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: and I said, hey.

895
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

896
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: I got a degree and I was wondering this on

897
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: my off days, if I could just come in and

898
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: intern for free in the marketing apartment.

899
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: And they was like, oh, we like this guy.

900
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: So then I interned and it ended up hiring me

901
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: in the marketing apartment for this big cable company. Right,

902
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: so I'm working my nine to five at the cable company.

903
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: But then I'm also like making music and doing little

904
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: shows on the side. And every time I would do concerts,

905
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, people would bring me out come to a

906
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: concert at my church or at this you center.

907
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: Whatever, And your music is now fully Christian at this.

908
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: Point in time, Yeah, absolutely fully Christian.

909
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, I got little gigs here and there,

910
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: and I didn't know about the church because I'm I

911
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 3: became a Christian and started following God with a bunch

912
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: of college students, not like with a church group, you.

913
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

914
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: So so I didn't know how the church rules were

915
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: and all that type stuff. So then I would start

916
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: going to these little spaces and they, you know, coming

917
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: in dress like I'm dressed, my tattoos, I got my

918
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: hat cocked to the side. This is back in like

919
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: the dipset arrow with the do rag hanging down, you

920
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And they like, you gotta take

921
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: the hat off of here.

922
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, huh, what was you talking about?

923
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: You can't wear hatt in this building and then it

924
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: was like, hey, you said, God is not pissed off

925
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: at you. You can't use that type of language here.

926
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, what you know? So I didn't.

927
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: That's when I started running into that like very churchy

928
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: religious world.

929
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: And did that provide any confliction in there?

930
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

931
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not immediately because immediately at first I was

932
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: like I'm wrong with y'all. But I think as I

933
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: got further in my career and I really started to

934
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: take off, I started.

935
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Doing really well, you know.

936
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: And I think the reason why I started doing well

937
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: was because I wasn't from the church, you know what

938
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Because I could connect with the average everyday people.

939
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: So church people like what I was doing, regular people

940
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: who wasn't following God like they was like, that's kind

941
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: of dope, Like it sounds like I had.

942
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: Even some of my homeboys would be like, you sure

943
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: you want to just do this for God? Bro? You dope?

944
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: Bro? You know what I mean?

945
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: You could really blow up. And I was like, Nah,

946
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: this is the path I'm on.

947
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 3: But as my career kept going upward and more upward

948
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 3: and upward, and God just kept blessing me. I think

949
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: I became so trusting because I didn't grow up with

950
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: a family. I became so trusting of all of these

951
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: quote unquote church folks, and I was like, oh, we

952
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: all are family. And I let my guard down, which

953
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: is okay, sometimes you gotta let your guard down. But

954
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 3: I let my guard all the way down to where

955
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: I started finding my identity and my worth and how

956
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: much they loved me and not how much God loved me.

957
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: So when they start tripping on me.

958
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: It got dark, really dark to where I was.

959
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 3: Like, maybe I'm done with God because they tripping.

960
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: And how far into your career was that?

961
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: This is like.

962
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: Probably ten years in so ten years I'm going crazy.

963
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: Ten years Like bam, bam bam. This is a build up,

964
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: you know. And I think it like we eating this

965
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: struggle meal.

966
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: This is like if you never forget.

967
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: Where you came from, you can go further. It's when

968
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: people forget where they came from. People forget how to struggle,

969
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: People forget the power of broke when you broke, and

970
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: all you got is this You got to figure out

971
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 3: how to make it work, you know what I mean.

972
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 3: So that was what was making me rise, was because

973
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: I would get to a certain level, and everybody was

974
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: expecting something differ and they be like, oh, you you

975
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: don't You're not gonna And I'll be like, no, it's cool,

976
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: we'll figure out, we'll make it work.

977
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: Hey, we don't have this, Okay, it's cool. We'll figure

978
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: out what make it work.

979
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: And people just was like, oh, we got to have him,

980
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: we got to use this, we got to do that,

981
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: and people want to work with you.

982
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: So I think that's part of what happened for.

983
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: Me was over that ten year span of time, I

984
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: just kept rising, rising, rising, because I never looked at

985
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: myself as having arrived, and I saw so many other

986
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: people they're like, oh, I made it.

987
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, especially in today's there if they get

988
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: like ten thousand followers have arrived, like your bank account says.

989
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: I still don't. I don't feel like I made it today.

990
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, yeah, you made it.

991
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: Nah.

992
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that's the power of broke.

993
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: It's just always I'm grateful, I'm content, but I always

994
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 3: feel like I think the other thing is if you've

995
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: been here, you're always afraid you're gonna be back here.

996
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: That's a real thing.

997
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Something.

998
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: Now, I've interviewed some people that are like, what's worse.

999
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: I've already done it. I've done the syrup sandwich. You know.

1000
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: So I go back, you know, and I'm.

1001
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: Like, I cannot be back.

1002
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: I honestly think it's the entrepreneurs that more lean that way.

1003
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: They're like a gamble again. No, you almost went back

1004
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: during COVID.

1005
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: I mean I could go back to trying it, but

1006
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: I could if I have to, I will if there's

1007
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: nothing else I can do.

1008
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: Cool, but I will exhaust myself.

1009
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: I will go work at the post office before I

1010
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: go back.

1011
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Like where this is survival? I said, right, this is

1012
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: where you're like, I don't want this to be. I

1013
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: under I think a lot of people that have gotten

1014
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: to where you've gotten to. It was like please please

1015
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: please please, no no no, I would never listen.

1016
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: Man. It was a couple of young artists. I remember

1017
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: this like twenty eighteen. I'm on the road with these

1018
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: young artists and they had a viral hits.

1019
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: The song was big.

1020
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 3: This is when I was signed to Columbia and we

1021
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: was like on a radio tour. So you know, I

1022
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: got the song out. Tie Dollar Sign is blown up

1023
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm on doing radio tours and I'm on a tour

1024
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: with these young artis. Ain't gonna say their names, but

1025
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: they had a big hit and were backstage and their kids,

1026
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: you know, like, and I see them with this one

1027
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars worth the jewelry on and so I'm

1028
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: just trying to be big bro. I'm just like, I'm like, man,

1029
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: y'all jewelry crazy, Like, yeah, bro, we spend one hundred

1030
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: racks on this. And I said, oh, that's what's uping, man,

1031
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: Where y'all stay at? Are we staying such as these

1032
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: apartments and such and such and such and such. I said, okay, man,

1033
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: y'all definitely should get y'all some property. Bro, you know,

1034
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: buy buy something, because you know, you spend all your

1035
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: money on the jewelry and stuff and then you don't

1036
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: have anything to show for it.

1037
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: And it was like, na, we just make another hit.

1038
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: It never came. It never came.

1039
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: Think is that? I think when you pawn in those

1040
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: some of those jewelry, especially when they're custom, they're not

1041
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: worth anything. Like when they do the custom, you know,

1042
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: when someone has like their name.

1043
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: And the colors, they lose value. Yeah, they lose immediately.

1044
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. I don't like, I don't

1045
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: want to go back. I'm not going back your money.

1046
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: Who absolutely, I can't go backwards. Can't go backwards, like

1047
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: not all the way back? Yeah no, Like uh uh,

1048
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: I can't be on stages rapping.

1049
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: For Beanie Weenie's. We can't. We can't do that. No,

1050
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: it's not what we want.

1051
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 2: So during the periods of where you're in a your

1052
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: your career is doing well, but now you're starting to

1053
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: question things. What is pulling you out.

1054
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: Of that the darkness?

1055
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: Good friends, for one, you just I always have friends

1056
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: who kept usided with me.

1057
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes it was hard, especially.

1058
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: When you know you win in Grammy's you're making a

1059
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: lot of money. Your friends like don't know, it's weird

1060
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: for them because they're like people want your autograph or

1061
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: take a picture, and it's like that's weird.

1062
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: You just you, you know what I mean.

1063
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 3: But the good part about that was they never looked

1064
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: at me like wow. They always just saw me as you,

1065
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: just you. So when I was going through stuff, they

1066
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: could keep it real with me and they could just

1067
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: be there and they weren't like coddling me and being like,

1068
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: you know, they would just keep it real, like, hey, man,

1069
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: this is where you dropped the ball at, this is

1070
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: where you tripping at, this is where you probably need

1071
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: some help at. And good friends. My best friend is

1072
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: my wife for sure. Without her, oh my gosh, man, I'd.

1073
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: Have been cooked cooked.

1074
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: So she kept it solid and she was like because

1075
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: I told her, I said, Man, I don't know what

1076
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 3: I believe right now. I'm not doing no Bible studies

1077
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: with kids, none of that type of stuff. I'm just like, yeah,

1078
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't I don't know what I

1079
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: believe right now.

1080
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

1081
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, I was kind of like,

1082
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: if God ain't real, marriage is just the institution.

1083
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: Oh wow? And so why did I.

1084
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: Even do this? You know what I'm saying. I'm like

1085
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 3: trying to rethink. I'm just pulling up all the stuff.

1086
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: So the relationship you had with the church folks or

1087
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: whatever starting to cause this little these cracks, right, what

1088
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: makes it go to the point where you start to say, well,

1089
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: if God isn't real?

1090
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Though?

1091
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 3: Because I felt like, because what it was was people

1092
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 3: hurt me, but I blame God. You see what I'm saying,

1093
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 3: God's people hurt me, but I blame them God instead

1094
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: of his people, you know what I'm saying. So that

1095
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: was really the thing is like I trusted y'all, looked

1096
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: up to y'all. Y'all gave me all the right answers,

1097
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: you pastors, you leaders, you told.

1098
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Me this was this and this was this.

1099
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: But then when I got some questions about stuff, or

1100
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 3: when I do something that y'all don't like or y'all

1101
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: disagree with, you turn your back on me, or you

1102
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: talk crazy about me.

1103
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, what can I trust that.

1104
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: Comes out your mouth exactly? You know, That's what I

1105
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: started thinking. But then I was like, you know what,

1106
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: even the clock is right two times a day. So

1107
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: it's like, y'all were right about God. Y'all are wrong

1108
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: about the way you're treating me in this season. You

1109
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1110
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that in this season too. Yeah, So

1111
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: that I guess that for forgiveness.

1112
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: Forgiveness growth, for them to have they perspective, and a

1113
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: lot of people to come back and apologized, A lot

1114
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: of them have a lot of them are like, bro,

1115
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 3: I was tripping.

1116
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it. I didn't see it. You know.

1117
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: So a lot of people came back and some of it.

1118
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: Some of it had to do with you know, I

1119
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: feel like politics crept into the church and just turned

1120
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: everything upside down. So if you didn't agree with somebody politically, it.

1121
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, you out of here.

1122
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: Or if you cared about issues of justice, but they

1123
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: felt like this is a political.

1124
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: Thing, it's like, nah, I just care about people, you

1125
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1126
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: They're like, ah, that person's a criminal. You shouldn't care

1127
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: about the let them. And I'm like, yeah, that sounds crazy.

1128
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: So they're like you sound crazy, and now it turns

1129
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 3: into a fight.

1130
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't deal with this.

1131
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: What does your wife say during this whole period of

1132
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: questioning that kind of helps you.

1133
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: I think it's not what she said, it's what she did.

1134
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 3: She just stay solid, you know what I'm saying. She said,

1135
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pray for you. She's like, I'm just

1136
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: gonna pray for you. And she just prayed, stay solid

1137
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: and prayed and wasn't like. She was like, I don't

1138
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: have an argument. I don't have the energy to go

1139
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: back and forth with you arguing. I'm gonna pray. I'm

1140
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: gonna talk to your friends. I'm gonna hope that, and

1141
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, my friends would come talk to me. And

1142
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: then I think too, the other biggest thing was, honestly,

1143
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 3: I feel like it was just sometimes you get so

1144
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: close to the stove. You like, man, that stove ain't hot,

1145
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's not hot. It's definitely

1146
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: not hot, and then you burn yourself so bad that

1147
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, okay. And I think that's part of

1148
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: what happened to me too, is I burn myself so

1149
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: bad because now because now I'm back, once I start

1150
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: questioning stuff, all I know is to go back to

1151
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: where I came from.

1152
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: Where did I come from?

1153
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 3: I came from drugs, I came from being in the streets.

1154
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: I came from doing figuring out how to hustle. So

1155
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: I'm now I'm thinking through, if I'm not gonna do

1156
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: this Christian rap thing, what kind of hustling am I

1157
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: gonna do?

1158
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: You know?

1159
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: And I'm depressed and I'm tripping, and I'm drinking now

1160
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: a whole lot, and I'm popping Xanax.

1161
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: And I'm just like spiral this whole period.

1162
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my, I'm.

1163
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: Just going downhill. So I woke up in a depression.

1164
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: And that's when it was like a clinical depression. That's

1165
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: when this stuff was too hot. It's like, oh, it's

1166
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: too hot, and I'm addicted to these pills. And I'm

1167
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: waking up in a panic and I'm like, oh, I'm

1168
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm tripping, and you know, I blame myself, But at

1169
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: the same time, I feel like the enemy was just

1170
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 3: putting stuff around me to make it worse. So it's

1171
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: like I'm trying to find a doctor to go talk

1172
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: to about a prescription.

1173
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: I can't find one. But then I find like.

1174
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: A pill farm on accident. It just so happened to

1175
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: be a pill farm around the corner. And then this

1176
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: is a doctor doctor and he like, yeah, take two

1177
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: of these, man, you feel good.

1178
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm like addicted. Yeah, you know what I mean. So

1179
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: it was just a process, man.

1180
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: And how long did that process take?

1181
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: I would say this was it was an ongoing battle

1182
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: for two years. Wow, it's a two.

1183
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: Year battle, from like twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen. I

1184
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: was just in a battle, you know what I'm saying.

1185
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: It would be like.

1186
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: It would be like six months, I don't care about nothing,

1187
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: nothing matters. And then one month, I'm like, all right,

1188
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: I'm tripping, and then it'd be like three months, No,

1189
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm not tripping.

1190
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: This is stupid, man. One month, maybe there is a

1191
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: God and you know, so.

1192
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: Just eventually you pick up the Bible again or yeah.

1193
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: So what happened was in that depression, I'm in a

1194
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: very low moment and I'm just like I can't snap

1195
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: out of this.

1196
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: I can't snap out of this. And I was like

1197
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: I didn't want to pray because I was like, nah, God,

1198
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: I feel like that ain't right for me to pray.

1199
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: I didn't turn my back on you like I'm afectin

1200
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: to come try to pray, you know, like I'm and

1201
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: that's pride, you know, because God isn't sitting back like.

1202
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: You better stay over there, you know what I'm saying. Like,

1203
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: so pride kicked in. But then I was just so down.

1204
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't shake it.

1205
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: Like one day, two day, three day, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

1206
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: about five six days and I can't shake it, and.

1207
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, help. So then i I'm sitting down.

1208
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm just like all right, man, I was like, God,

1209
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. But if you

1210
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: got something for me. I'll take it.

1211
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: I'll open up the Bible and it's on the story

1212
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: when after Peter had denied Jesus three times and then

1213
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: Jesus comes to him after he resurrects, and he's just like, hey,

1214
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: you know, do.

1215
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: You love me? Peter's like, you know, I love you.

1216
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: He's like, do you love me? He's like, you know

1217
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: I love you. He's like do you love me? He's like, yeah,

1218
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: I know, I love you, and feed my sheep.

1219
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: And what that said to me was this man denied God,

1220
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: but God was still like I ain't tripping on that.

1221
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: Just get back to work. I'll forgive you. And then

1222
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: I just broke. I'm like, you know what I'm saying.

1223
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: So that's what's spinning all on. And I mean from

1224
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: there we just start building back.

1225
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: Man shout outs to God.

1226
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

1227
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, dang, this is this is just a

1228
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: nice experience to hear your testimony from you. This closets

1229
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: Why don't you told me and everyone out there listening

1230
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: like how they could keep up with you. I know

1231
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: you have a podcast right now and all that.

1232
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can definitely tap in on the podcast. The

1233
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: Deep End with La Craze.

1234
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Make sure you tap.

1235
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: In and share with everyone what you talk about on

1236
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: the show, and they guess you have.

1237
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: The deep end is where faith meets culture. So what's

1238
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: going on in culture in society. I mean, it's not

1239
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 3: like it's it's a conversation. It's not always going to

1240
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: be like some it's not a Bible study, but it's

1241
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: a conversation and faith gets weaved into it. We've talked

1242
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: with Will Smith about his spiritual journey. I talk with

1243
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: Nick Cannon about what it's like to have all them

1244
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: kids and why you ain't stopping you no time soon.

1245
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's stopping. I think he's

1246
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: he's Hella's like pausing.

1247
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah he needs he should have paused a long time.

1248
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: I love you. Nick.

1249
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: We talked to like, you know, some only fans creators

1250
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: who got off of there and they're exposing like some

1251
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: of the problems with it.

1252
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: Man. It's just lots of different people from different walks

1253
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: of life. You know. We'll talk to like pastors and

1254
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: ask him like hard questions.

1255
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Like yo, man, what's up with the money in the church,

1256
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 3: and like what's going on behind the scenes. And it's

1257
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: just where faith and culture meet the questions that the

1258
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: culture wants to ask and conversations the culture wants to

1259
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: talk about.

1260
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: But from a faith perspective.

1261
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: When you say the culture, you mean like black audience

1262
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: or youth audience.

1263
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean just the world. And I would say probably

1264
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: between if you between twenty.

1265
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: Five and forty, this is like the stuff that you're

1266
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: thinking about.

1267
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1268
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: So it's like the stuff that you're thinking about and

1269
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: let's just let's talk about it.

1270
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: But I hear like college students listen to it.

1271
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: Too, so you know, it's interesting. It's interesting. The conversations

1272
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 2: are deep. It's it covers all the all the questions

1273
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: you'd want to know, and that like when I watch them, Yeah,

1274
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: you're asking the questions that I'm thinking that you I

1275
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: want you to ask. Yeah, so it's good your present.

1276
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: I love when people say that.

1277
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: That's like one of my favorite texts, Like, man, I'm

1278
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: glad you asked them. I wanted to know the same thing.

1279
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna ask you what people want to know.

1280
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1281
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: And then music, what's going on with that?

1282
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: I got this collaboration project with Miles Minnet.

1283
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: He's a younger artist. He lives here, but he's based

1284
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 3: in the Bay. He is in LA but he's based

1285
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: based in the Bay from the Bay. But anyway, Yeah,

1286
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: so that project's out.

1287
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: It's called Get Will Soon. You know.

1288
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: We got E forty on air, we got Yellow Hill

1289
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 3: on the air, we got Amy Zuko, we got it.

1290
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm missing somebody, DJ Moski, I'm missing somebody forgiving album.

1291
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it's a project that we put together

1292
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: West Coast. Like nobody's business.

1293
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: It's just I always wanted to really make some good

1294
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: West Coast music and I felt like, you know, I

1295
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: just didn't really make what I wanted to make historically,

1296
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: so I always made a song here or there. But

1297
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: then this is a full on West Coast project. And

1298
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 3: then I wanted to get with a younger artist because

1299
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: being in the game a long time, you just you

1300
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: can hog the limelight and artist they stay one knows me,

1301
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: you know, look at me, and I'm like, man, how

1302
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: can I breathe life on somebody else who's already they got?

1303
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 3: He has his own movement and momentum. But if I

1304
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: can add any credibility, then let me do that.

1305
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: So how did you guys link up the.

1306
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: Funny part about it is he met me when I

1307
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: was on tour years ago but I don't remember, but

1308
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: he was a fan.

1309
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Speaker 1: He waited outside my tour bus and he was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I just want to give you this ten dollars man, and.

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00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't take this money from you, bro.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was like, he's the last ten dollars.

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Speaker 3: But I just want to sow. Wear want to go

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Speaker 3: and I want to be on where you are.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, you know what I'm saying.

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00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: You buy craylatte and then you never know what happened,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So but he did that.

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: But then years later he was bubbling, he was making

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Speaker 3: some noise and he hit me up and asked me

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Speaker 3: to do a song with him. And I did that

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00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: song and that was fun and I liked his He

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00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: was a humble dude. I liked his demeanor. Then after

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Speaker 3: we did that song, then it turned into me wanting

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Speaker 3: to put him on a song.

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Speaker 1: He worked so fast. Yeah, I said, we can, let's

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Speaker 1: do another one, Let's do another, Let's do another.

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Speaker 2: And by the time that work Ethic was there. Work

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Speaker 2: Ethic talent, persistence, and he planted that seat.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So the number one.

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Speaker 3: By the end of it, it was like we had it.

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Speaker 1: It's called get well soon, Get well.

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00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: when somebody's sick, you said, oh, man, I hope you

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00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: get well soon. And you know, we feel like a

1336
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: lot of people are sick right now, a lot of

1337
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: people dealing with stuff and you be coming to you

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00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 3: got everything from financial stuff to family stuff. So it's

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00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: like it's just it's just some joy and you put

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Speaker 3: some joy in you in your mix real quick.

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Speaker 2: On the project? What's your favorite and why?

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Speaker 3: My favorite is The Method hands down the songs called

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: the Method. It just it's just a West Coast, like

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: it's from I mean from the Bay to Sacramento to

1345
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: La to San Diego. Like no part of Cali's untouched

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00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: in the song Wow. And you know we got e

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00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: forty the Mayor on there.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 3: So it just felt right, man, It's just and we

1350
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 3: just you know, just want to wake up the West.

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00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: So working on that and then working on my solo album, and.

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00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: We don't know when the date of that is coming out.

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00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: Solo album probably be sometime in the fall, okay, okay,

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00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: and then we'll do a world tour.

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Speaker 2: That's what we want. That's what we want to hear.

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Speaker 1: World tour is coming.

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Speaker 2: It is coming, it's coming. Well, thank you so much

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00:59:59,120 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: for cooking for.

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00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: Me, hey man, struggle me.

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Speaker 2: And then before we sign out, I just got one

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Speaker 2: last question for someone that's going through that transition of

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01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, Christian to maybe falling off course a little

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01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: bit to getting back up. What advice would you give

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: to them or what could you share with them to

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01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: kind of carry them through?

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01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Man, I would just say life is a journey.

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01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: In everybody's journey, I think every person realizes there's a

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01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 3: gap that we're trying to like feel right. No matter

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01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: what you believe in, you know, there's a gap. You know,

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01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: there's like, man, something's not all the way right, you

1371
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I think a lot of

1372
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: times we try to mend the gap ourselves, like well

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01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 3: maybe if I just get another job, or if I find.

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: The right guy or the right girl, or if I.

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: Reach inner peace or you know, and it's like, man,

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01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 3: I think that's a god size gap that only God

1377
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: can feel, and a lot of us are avoiding God

1378
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: because we're like, it's too simple, want easy answers and

1379
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: answers that please us, but we don't want. And you know,

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01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: I think people are afraid of God because they feel

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: like he's going to invade on their their fund or

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01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: their privacy or whatever. And he wants to just make

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01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: that better. He wants to bless that.

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01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: So don't run from him.

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01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 3: Engage even if you're like, I don't know, like, lean

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: in because you can't the worst. What's the worst that

1387
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 3: can happen by you leaning in to someone who's supposed

1388
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: to be loving and peaceful and benevolent and good, Like,

1389
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: what's the worst that can happen?

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So this is not a

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: toxic boyfriend that's going to do you bad. It's like,

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01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: so I would just say.

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: Lean in, even if it's dark and ugly, lean in,

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 3: you know, let them, let them, let him work on you.

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01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: I like that gap to acknowledging that gap right there,

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01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: because a lot of people I do that. I'd be like,

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01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: this is little and then with social media, with the

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01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: seventy five and hard or whatever, I can fix it.

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01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: That's human nature posing about.

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Speaker 2: But no, you're right open the Bible. Yeah, you know,

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01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: and I think just also just on my own walk

1402
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: is definitely like getting in the Bible versus just going

1403
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: to church. It makes a huge difference.

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01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, Oh for sure.

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01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 3: And just even just I'm a big audio person. I

1406
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 3: just listen or ill I can listen to a podcast,

1407
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: I have a conversation about the Bible.

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01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: I can, like, you know what I'm saying.

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01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: It's like, even if I'm not just sitting there reading myself,

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01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: which I think people should do, read with other people.

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why we believe.

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01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: It's like thinking that you got to be in a

1413
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 3: corner by yourself with the Bible, just trying to like

1414
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: nobody does that, and like no kid is like you

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01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: know what, I'm seven and I.

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01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: Need to learn algebra. Let me just open an algebra book.

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01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 1: Got myself in the corner, you know what I'm saying.

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01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: It's like, give me some people who know algebra, you

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01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and just bounce stuff off each other.

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Speaker 1: So I like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much guys for tuning in, and

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Speaker 2: thank you with great for feeding me. Hey, you know

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Speaker 2: this Trio combo for all the listeners just mixed the

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Speaker 2: spinach with the corn and the the beanie whenies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks y'all. Peace Up

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