WEBVTT - External Exam - Thanksgiving Special: Cannibalism

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, It's Thanksgiving week and everyone is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>eating turkey, stuffing and cranberry. But today, Oh, Mother Knows Death,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be talking about eating people. On today's external Exam,

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<v Speaker 1>we will examine cannibalism. Mother Knows Death Presents External Exams

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<v Speaker 1>with Nicole and Jimmy. First, let's discuss what is cannibalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Cannibalism is when one species of animal eats the same

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<v Speaker 1>species for food. So, for example, if your dog eats

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<v Speaker 1>dog meat for dinner, the same can also be said

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<v Speaker 1>for humans eating other humans. Cannibalism always makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>about the first time I saw an autopsy. I always

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<v Speaker 1>joke that this job doesn't gross me out, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I could eat a hamburger over a dead body. But

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw an autopsy, I felt a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit differently. I mean, after all, when you cut

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<v Speaker 1>open a human, it's the same as cutting open an animal.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I saw the human ribs I was not

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<v Speaker 1>able to eat Chinese spare ribs for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So cannibalism has been documented throughout history and many different

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<v Speaker 1>cultures all over the world. Most of the time cannibalism

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<v Speaker 1>is frowned upon, but in some societies, it's totally normal.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a book by the American Museum of Natural History

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<v Speaker 1>titled Cannibalism, A Perfectly Natural History, and it discusses how

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<v Speaker 1>during the Chinese Yan Dynasty, royalty and upper class citizens

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<v Speaker 1>dined on various different types of prepared humans that were baked, roasted, broiled,

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<v Speaker 1>smoke dried, and sun dried. Children were considered the tastiest,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by women and last men. And I would venture

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<v Speaker 1>to say this is because of fact content. This remained

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<v Speaker 1>widespread in China until the late nineteen sixties. These humans

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<v Speaker 1>did not eat each other out of necessity. They did

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<v Speaker 1>it because they thought people tasted good. And then there

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<v Speaker 1>is Rick Gibson. Rick Gibson's a Canadian sculptor and a

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<v Speaker 1>performance artist. In nineteen eighty eight, Rick was given preserved

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<v Speaker 1>human tonsils in alcohol by a friend. He was hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to make a pair of ear rings out of these tonsils,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead he decided to eat them. On July nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight, he stood on a corner in London,

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<v Speaker 1>put the tonsils on a cracker with some spread and

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<v Speaker 1>a garnish, and ate them in public. About a year later,

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<v Speaker 1>on April fifteenth, nineteen eighty nine, he publicly ate a

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<v Speaker 1>slice of human testicle in London. A few months later,

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to do it again in Vancouver, but the

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<v Speaker 1>testicle urduv was confiscated by Vancouver police. He later tried

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<v Speaker 1>again and successfully ate another slice of human testicle. I

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<v Speaker 1>really cannot tell you why Rick Gibson ate human meat

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<v Speaker 1>other than he was a starving artist get it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many reasons why a person decides to eat

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<v Speaker 1>human flesh. Let's talk about the different types of cannibalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Cannibalism can be broken down into three main categories. Cultural.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout history, some cultures would eat the remains of people

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<v Speaker 1>in their tribe as part of the grieving process or

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<v Speaker 1>because of cultural superstitions endo cannibalism. The Kawai tribe, the

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<v Speaker 1>Korwai tribe from New Guinea, Indonesia, is thought to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the last tribes who still practice cannibalism. The

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<v Speaker 1>Kori live deep in the rainforest and many of them

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<v Speaker 1>have never seen an outsider. Many members of the tribe

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<v Speaker 1>are completely unaware of our modern world and have no

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of diseased germs or accidental deaths. Few outsiders have

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<v Speaker 1>been able to observe the Krawai tribe and their cannibal practices.

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<v Speaker 1>The Korai believe that mysterious deaths that happen in their

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<v Speaker 1>village are a result of the Quaqua, a witch that

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<v Speaker 1>takes over the form of man. The tribe believes that

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<v Speaker 1>this witch wants to kill people and comes disguise dressed

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<v Speaker 1>as a friend or relative. They think that this witch

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<v Speaker 1>invades their loved ones and then eats their insides while

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<v Speaker 1>they sleep and replaces their insides with fireplaced ash. Should

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<v Speaker 1>they do not know they are being eaten, then the

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<v Speaker 1>witch shoots a magical arrow into the heart and kills them.

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<v Speaker 1>When a member of this tribe dies or is about

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<v Speaker 1>to die, it is the duty of the Korai tribe

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<v Speaker 1>to seize and kill the Kaqua witch. Once they kill

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<v Speaker 1>one of their own tribe members who they believe had

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<v Speaker 1>been taken over by the Quaqua, they treat the body

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<v Speaker 1>like they would treat the flesh of a pig. They

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<v Speaker 1>cut off the legs separately and wrap them in banana leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>They cut off the head and it is given to

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<v Speaker 1>the person who found the Kaqua. Then they cut off

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<v Speaker 1>the right arm and the right ribs as one piece

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<v Speaker 1>and the left as another. They eat everything except the

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<v Speaker 1>hair nails, and you guessed it, the penis. Children under

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen are not allowed to eat it because they believe

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<v Speaker 1>eating the kequa is dangerous and the evil spirits all

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<v Speaker 1>around make children too vulnerable. If you ask the member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Korwai tribe why they eat humans, they would

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<v Speaker 1>argue and tell you that they do not eat humans.

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<v Speaker 1>They only eat kekua. Okay, now we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Four Tribe. In some cultures, consuming the meat

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<v Speaker 1>of a dead person is done with the intent of

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<v Speaker 1>taking on some of the traits of the dead person.

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<v Speaker 1>The Four Tribe, also from New Guinea, would cook and

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<v Speaker 1>eat family members after they died, which was thought to

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<v Speaker 1>invoke the spirit of the dead, and in some sense

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing just that. Women and children were primarily

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<v Speaker 1>consuming the brains of the dead family members. And you

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<v Speaker 1>should never eat brains. Why because of prion disease. Prions

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<v Speaker 1>are not the classic organism we think about when we

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<v Speaker 1>think about transmissible diseases like viruses and bacteria. Prions are

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<v Speaker 1>abnormal proteins that can cause transmissible spongeiform and cephalopathy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is similar to mad cow disease, but in people. Prion

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<v Speaker 1>disease has a long incubation period. It can be years

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<v Speaker 1>or decades before a person starts to show symptoms after exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though this tribe stopped eating their dead family members

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties, tribe members started popping up with

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<v Speaker 1>an unusual disease called kuru years later. Kuru is a

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<v Speaker 1>prion disease and was mostly found in women and children

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<v Speaker 1>of the tribe because they were mostly eating the brains

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<v Speaker 1>during the rituals. Now, we're going to move on to

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<v Speaker 1>exo cannibalism. This is the consumption of a person outside

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<v Speaker 1>of a community, usually a celebration of victory against a

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<v Speaker 1>rival tribe. Necro cannibalism. This type of cannibal eats an

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<v Speaker 1>already dead person to survive. Now we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about one of the most famous cases of this, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Uruguayan Air Force Flight five seventy one. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>eat another person to save your life? In nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>a college rugby team from Uruguay chartered a Uruguayan Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force plane to take the team from Montevido, Uruguay, to Santiago, Chile.

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<v Speaker 1>The flight initially left Uruguay with forty passengers and five

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<v Speaker 1>crew members. Due to the poor weather conditions in the

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<v Speaker 1>Andes Mountains, the flight had to land and stay overnight

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<v Speaker 1>in Mendozo, Argentina. They were cleared to leave the next afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>The flight departed at two eighteen PM and just after

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<v Speaker 1>three PM air controllers then cleared the plane for descent,

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<v Speaker 1>but shortly after lost communication with the plane. The pilot

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<v Speaker 1>had misjudged the location of the plane, which was still

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<v Speaker 1>in the Andes and crashed around three thirty PM. As

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<v Speaker 1>the plane tumbled down the mountain, it lost both its wings,

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<v Speaker 1>the talcone, and part of the fuselage, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>central part of the plane where the passenger and cruise its.

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<v Speaker 1>The remainder of the plane eventually slid down into a

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<v Speaker 1>snow bank in a remote valley of Argentina near the

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<v Speaker 1>border of Chile. Twelve people died during the initial crash,

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<v Speaker 1>with thirty three left to survive the harsh conditions of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains. Shortly after the crash, a search rescue was

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<v Speaker 1>underway with no luck, as clearly the pilot misjudged their

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<v Speaker 1>initial location. Rescue teams quickly looked to the Andes However,

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<v Speaker 1>the snow covered mountains made it incredibly difficult to spot

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<v Speaker 1>the remains of a white aircraft. After eight days, the

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<v Speaker 1>search was called off with the assumption that there were

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<v Speaker 1>no survivors. Over two months after Flight five seventy one crashed,

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<v Speaker 1>the remaining survivors were finally rescued on December twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two. Out of the thirty three people who

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<v Speaker 1>survived the initial crash, only sixteen survived. So how did

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<v Speaker 1>they survive? Survivors of the initial crash got to thinking

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and used parts from the plane such as seat luggage, DeBras, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>To create sufficient shelter. They relied on additional clothing found

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<v Speaker 1>in luggage to keep as warm as possible. While most

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<v Speaker 1>of the plane's fuselage was intact, it did not provide

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<v Speaker 1>much relief from the harsh weather conditions and eventually killed

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<v Speaker 1>an additional eight passengers sleeping inside when an avalanche hit.

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<v Speaker 1>For about a week, the remaining survivors were able to

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<v Speaker 1>eat any leftover food on the aircraft. This mostly involved

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<v Speaker 1>candy and wine, but quickly they ran out from here.

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<v Speaker 1>They were desperate and resorted to eating cotton and leather

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<v Speaker 1>from the plane seats. It was clear after a week

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<v Speaker 1>that rescue efforts were not sufficient, and the remaining survivors

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<v Speaker 1>were willing to do anything to live. Robert Cassenna, a

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<v Speaker 1>survivor who was nineteen at the time of the crash,

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<v Speaker 1>stated in his memoir, we knew the answer, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was too terrible to contemplate. The bodies of our friends

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<v Speaker 1>and teammates, preserved outside in the snow and ice contained vital,

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<v Speaker 1>life giving protein that could help us survive, but could

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<v Speaker 1>we do it. Initially, the survivors had deep moral concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about eating the deceased, as they were all devoted Catholics. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>in the media, one survivor claimed that they were influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by the Last Supper, in which Jesus gave his disciples

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<v Speaker 1>bread and wine that he stated were his body and

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<v Speaker 1>his blood. This perspective helped with the media backlash after

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<v Speaker 1>survivors revealed that they resorted to cannibalism on day nine.

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<v Speaker 1>The difficult decision was made and a pact was formed

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<v Speaker 1>that if any of them died, they could eat the

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<v Speaker 1>deceased for sustenance. Robert used broken glass from a window

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<v Speaker 1>to cut off frozen flesh from the deceased. They decided

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<v Speaker 1>to consume the pilot and co pilot first, as they

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<v Speaker 1>were strangers. Two months after the crash, Robert and another

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<v Speaker 1>survivor decided to take their own journey in search of health.

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<v Speaker 1>After days of hiking with no map or supplies, they

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<v Speaker 1>got the attention of some men across a river. The

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<v Speaker 1>men alerted authorities and the remaining survivors were rescued. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into this historical case of cannibalism,

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<v Speaker 1>the Donner Party. In another case of survival cannibalism, a

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<v Speaker 1>group of American pioneers headed west on the Oregon Trail

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<v Speaker 1>in hopes of a better life, but unfortunately were left

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Journeys on the Oregon

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<v Speaker 1>Trail typically lasted four to six months and came with

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<v Speaker 1>great risk. About ten percent of voyagers did not make

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<v Speaker 1>the journey west. The Donner Party, originating in Illinois, departed

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri on the Oregon Trail in the spring of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty six. The group of eighty seven decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>on a relatively new path, Hastings cut Off, which was

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<v Speaker 1>an alternative route for those seeking settlement in California. Many

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<v Speaker 1>peers advised the group against taking the alternative route, stating

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<v Speaker 1>that the terrain was not suitable for wagon travel. This

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<v Speaker 1>new route extended the time of the journey and created

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<v Speaker 1>many issues down the line. The rugged terrain along this

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<v Speaker 1>trail caused the loss of wagons and horses, further slowing

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<v Speaker 1>down the journey. By November, the group reached the Sierra

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada Mountains. As a result of poor planning, they became

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<v Speaker 1>trapped by heavy snowfall with little supplies. About a month

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<v Speaker 1>after becoming trapped, fifteen of the settlers ventured out in

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<v Speaker 1>search of help. Several days of wandering the snowy terrain

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<v Speaker 1>left them weak and starving. They even contemplated human sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>or a duel between the two men. Fortunately for them,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the group members died from natural causes and

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<v Speaker 1>left them with enough food to regain strength. Seven of

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen members who ventured from the remaining stranding group

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<v Speaker 1>made it to California and formed a rescue plan for

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<v Speaker 1>the others. Of the eighty seven original group members that

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<v Speaker 1>left in the spring of eighteen forty three, forty eight survived.

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<v Speaker 1>type of cannibal kills a person and then eats their

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<v Speaker 1>dead body. This brings us to the whole point of

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<v Speaker 1>this post. Most people eat turkey and stuffing on Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>but this woman ate her husband for Thanksgiving. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a whirlwind romance between Omema, a twenty three year old

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<v Speaker 1>Egyptian model, and her husband, fifty six year old Bill Nelson.

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<v Speaker 1>In late nineteen ninety one, Omema met Bill, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot after living in America for about five years.

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<v Speaker 1>A few days after meeting, the two married, and things

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<v Speaker 1>would turn deadly in only a month. In their brief relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>Omema claimed that Bill had sexually assaulted her, and after

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<v Speaker 1>an attack on November twenty eighth, nineteen ninety one, which

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<v Speaker 1>was Thanksgiving Day, she had enough. She stabbed Bill in

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<v Speaker 1>his chest and stomach with a pair of scissors and

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<v Speaker 1>finished him off with a clothing iron. In a moment

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<v Speaker 1>of blind rage, Omama began to cut up Bill's body.

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<v Speaker 1>She even castrated him, which is removing his testicles as

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<v Speaker 1>of revenge for the times he abused her. Omeima spent

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<v Speaker 1>hours attempting to get rid of Bill's remains. She mixed

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<v Speaker 1>some of his body parts with turkey leftovers to disguise

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<v Speaker 1>them in a trash bag, shoved other bits down the

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<v Speaker 1>garbage disposal, which neighbors told investigators they heard running for hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually boiled his hands in an attempt to remove fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 1>She then stuck his head in the freezer to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with him later. Now this is where the crime really

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<v Speaker 1>takes a turn. Court documents detailed a conversation between Omeima

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<v Speaker 1>and her psychiatrist. In the session, she admits that she

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<v Speaker 1>quote did his ribs just like in a restaurant. It

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<v Speaker 1>is so sweet, it's so delicious, I like mine tender.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually took Bill's ribs, which she dismembered after the murder,

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<v Speaker 1>and cooked them in barbecue sauce and ate them for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>She was sentenced to twenty seven years to life in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>and she will be eligible for parole. In twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, she'll probably get released and get some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a cookbook deal or something. Okay. On to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Dahmer. Jeffrey Dahmer has been more in the limelight

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<v Speaker 1>as of late, and is arguably the most famous cannibal.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey killed his first victim at the young age of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen in nineteen seventy eight. This crime took place in

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<v Speaker 1>his childhood home, and he hid the remains in the

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<v Speaker 1>crawl space underneath of his house. It would be almost

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<v Speaker 1>a decade before his next murder, while living in his

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother's house. All in all, Dahmer was thought to have

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<v Speaker 1>killed seventeen men, but was only convicted for fifteen. He

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<v Speaker 1>was eventually caught in nineteen ninety one after one of

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<v Speaker 1>his victims escaped and drew attention to the haunting scene

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<v Speaker 1>in his Milwaukee apartment. Dahmer's apartment had been recounted as

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most horrific scenes in true crime history.

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<v Speaker 1>When police searched the apartment, they found the remains of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven men. Dahmer had a fifty seven gallon barrel in

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<v Speaker 1>his bedroom filled with hydrochloric acid to dissolve the skin

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<v Speaker 1>off of his victim's skeletons. At the time of his arrest,

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<v Speaker 1>police found three torsos dissolving in the acid. Also in

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<v Speaker 1>his bedroom was a drawer full of polaroids showing the

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<v Speaker 1>deceased victims and acts of necrophilia, which is sex with

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<v Speaker 1>a dead person. He once stated he took the photos

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<v Speaker 1>to remember the beauty each victim once had. Dahmer kept

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<v Speaker 1>a reserve of some body parts in his freezer to cook.

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<v Speaker 1>There were also three decapitated heads and a human heart

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<v Speaker 1>in his refrigerator at the time of discovery. While Dahmer

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<v Speaker 1>never denied his killings, he could never fully explain what

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<v Speaker 1>drove him to start eating the body parts. He stated,

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<v Speaker 1>at first it was just curiosity, then it became compulsive.

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<v Speaker 1>He also noted to investigators that biceps tasted like beef.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Eric Hickey, a professor of forensic psychology, explains cannibalism

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<v Speaker 1>as the ultimate form of control over a victim, commenting

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<v Speaker 1>that quote eating their victims gives them a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>power because their victims can never leave. Doctor Hickey goes

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<v Speaker 1>on to explain that cannibalism is often the result of

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<v Speaker 1>obsessive sexual desire and experimentation. He says, quote, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>usually see people jump from killing to eating. It starts

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<v Speaker 1>with watching people sleep, then drugging victims, then you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be with someone who's buried or unconscious, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it progresses from there. Jeffrey Dahmer was known for drugging

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<v Speaker 1>his victims, and he was even banned from certain clubs

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<v Speaker 1>and bathhouses for doing it. Based on doctor Hickey's explanation

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<v Speaker 1>and Dahmer's admitted compulsiveness, it definitely makes sense that Dahmer

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<v Speaker 1>would progress to this horrific behavior. Jeffrey Dahmer was sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen concer executive life sentences in nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was beaten to death by a fellow inmate

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety four. Ed Gain Going back a few decades,

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<v Speaker 1>the search for a local missing woman would lead police

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<v Speaker 1>to a truly horrific crime scene. In November nineteen fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>a local hardware store owner, Bernice Warden, went missing. This

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<v Speaker 1>was an incredibly rare instance for the time, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>such a small town. The only clue left behind was bloodstains.

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<v Speaker 1>Police looked through her records from the store and the

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<v Speaker 1>last receipt that she wrote out for the day was

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Ed gain who went into the store

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase antifreeze. Police went to Gaines's house, who lived

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<v Speaker 1>in an isolated farm right outside of town, and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>found Bernice. She was decapitated and hanging by her ankles.

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<v Speaker 1>The farmhouse was filled with bones, human organs, and even

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<v Speaker 1>crafts and furniture made from human remains. Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>items they discovered included mass made from faces, a belt

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<v Speaker 1>made of nipples, a lamp shade made from a face,

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of lips acting as a window shade, drawstring

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<v Speaker 1>and chairs, and a pair of leggings made from human skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Gain immediately admitted that he had kidnapped his victims in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to robbing graves for female remains. He then told

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<v Speaker 1>police he was trying to create a quote woman's suit

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<v Speaker 1>that he could wear to become his mother. She had

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<v Speaker 1>died a decade prior, and he was obsessed with her,

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<v Speaker 1>even leaving her favorite rooms of the house boarded up

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<v Speaker 1>to preserve their pristine condition, while the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>house was a scene out of true crime hoarders. Does

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of a woman suit sound familiar? Ed Gain

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<v Speaker 1>is said to be the inspiration for Buffalo Bill in

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<v Speaker 1>the Silence of the Lamb's movie and Norman Bates in

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<v Speaker 1>the Psycho movie. Even though those movies are fictional, it's

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<v Speaker 1>extra scary to know it is sourced from a true story.

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<v Speaker 1>While he never admitted it, many believed that ed Gain

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<v Speaker 1>participated in cannibalism. He was said to be obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>reading about the topic, and human remains were discovered throughout

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<v Speaker 1>his kitchen. If we approach his crimes from a psychological

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<v Speaker 1>point of view, he had an obsessive build up, just

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<v Speaker 1>like Jeffrey Dahmer. His mother had died in nineteen forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving him alone in their family farmhouse. He was obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with her, and he slowly began to take extreme measures

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<v Speaker 1>to resurrect her. Although police found remains from as many

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<v Speaker 1>as forty bodies in his home, ed only admitted to

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<v Speaker 1>killing two of them. He maintained that the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the women were from graves that he had robbed over time.

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<v Speaker 1>These gruesome acts granted him the nickname the Butcher of Plainfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk about Albert Fish. Lastly, in the true

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<v Speaker 1>crime Time Spectrum comes the serial killer Albert Fish. While

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<v Speaker 1>many are not as familiar with Albert Fish as Dahmer

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<v Speaker 1>and Gain, he is thought to have influenced the character

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<v Speaker 1>of Hannibal Lecter. At twenty years old, Fish moved to

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, where he began his life as a criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>participating in male prostitution and raping young boys. Albert later

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<v Speaker 1>recounted the beginning stages of his interest in sexual mutilation

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<v Speaker 1>when a lover took him to a wax museum. At

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<v Speaker 1>forty years old, in nineteen ten, Albert became involved with

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<v Speaker 1>a mentally disabled young adult. Shortly into their relationship, Albert

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<v Speaker 1>took the man to an old farmhouse, where he tortured

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<v Speaker 1>him for two weeks. While Albert intended to kill his lover,

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up just mutilating him by cutting off half

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<v Speaker 1>his penis, as he feared the heat would draw attention

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<v Speaker 1>to a dead body. A few years after this incident,

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<v Speaker 1>Albert began having hallucinations and harming himself by inserting needles

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<v Speaker 1>into his groin. An X ray later revealed that he

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty nine needles lodged in his pelvic region from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineteen to nineteen thirty. Albert's violent fantasies fully came

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<v Speaker 1>to late. He began harming and murdering young children, stating

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<v Speaker 1>that he felt God was commanding him to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Albert's reign of terror would eventually end with the murder

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<v Speaker 1>of Grace Budd in nineteen twenty eight. Albert met Grace

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<v Speaker 1>after her brother put an ad in the New York

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<v Speaker 1>World seeking a job. Albert posed as a farmer looking

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<v Speaker 1>to hire Edward, although his true intentions were to mutilate him.

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<v Speaker 1>He convinced Grace's parents to have her accompanying him to

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<v Speaker 1>a made up party for his niece, but instead took

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<v Speaker 1>her to an abandoned house, where he killed her and

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<v Speaker 1>then ate her. Several years later, an anonymous letter was

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<v Speaker 1>sent to Grace's parents, and it is too disturbing to

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<v Speaker 1>read here. Police investigated this letter, and while the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>parts could not be verified, the events surrounding Grace's disappearance

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<v Speaker 1>were accurate. What ultimately led police to Albert was a

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<v Speaker 1>small detail on the envelope. There was a small emblem

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<v Speaker 1>with the letters NYPCBA representing New York Private Chauffeur's Manipulate Association.

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<v Speaker 1>A janitor for this company told investigators he had some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stationery at his rooming house, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>left it there when he moved out. Turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>Albert had been staying in the rooming house. Police arrested

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<v Speaker 1>Albert at the rooming house in nineteen thirty four and

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<v Speaker 1>he did not deny the murder. Okay, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>some modern day cannibalism. I think most people would find

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of cannibalism disgusting. However, cannibalism has played a

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<v Speaker 1>role in the history of medicine and it's still popular today.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of placental encapsulation? Eating your placenta

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<v Speaker 1>has become all the rage. These people who are pro

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<v Speaker 1>eating placentas say that it offers health benefits to help

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<v Speaker 1>with postpartum depression and boost the milk supply. People like

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<v Speaker 1>me who are anti eating placentna say that humans are

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<v Speaker 1>not cats, and its gross and its cannibalism. Although cannibalism

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<v Speaker 1>has been sensationalized in Hollywood with films like Silence of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lambs and Dahmer, it becomes very real, disturbing, and

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling when you learn the real facts of these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>If you still have a taste for cannibalism. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see the photos that go with these cases at the

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<v Speaker 1>grossroom dot com. Cannibalism is rare, but just last year,

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<v Speaker 1>a Michigan man was sentenced to life in prison after

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<v Speaker 1>admitting to killing and eating the genitals of a male lover,

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<v Speaker 1>admitting that he was involved in a violent sexual fetish.

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<v Speaker 1>We can see the cases of Dahmer and gain in

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<v Speaker 1>their obsessive compulsiveness and mental disorders led them to cannibalism.

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<v Speaker 1>Well why Omema. The killing could be justified as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of abuse, but why cooks ribs? Just because human

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<v Speaker 1>remains can be cooked and apparently taste similar to other

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<v Speaker 1>mammals we consume, doesn't mean they should be so after

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<v Speaker 1>all of this cannibalism talk, are you still craving your

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving dinner? Thank you for listening to mother nos death.

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