1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. Today, we will 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: break down what you should expect in Ravens free agency 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: and give you some of our predictions on what we 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: think you're gonna happen. Garret and I back together in 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: the saddle. Good to have you back, buddy. Yeah, so 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: that was Indy. It was great. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Uh, and he was good. I thought the combine, you know, 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: it's I will say, it's a little bit more challenging 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: to kind of get a feel for just the players 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: when you're picking at thirty. But I think that coming 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: out of it, the big takeaway for me is I'm 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: paying attention to the ol Lignman. I am looking hard 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: at the old Lignman. Okay, so I know we're talking 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: free agency today, but you know, we're gonna be doing 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: a lot of draft talk between now and the end 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: of April, and I think there's gonna be a lot 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: of talk about life in the trenches with those offensive alignments. 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: So well, I don't think free agency is void of 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: that discussion too. I think that extends the free agency 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: as it does I think primarily the draft, but that's 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: a free agency question too. 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, They're just a little prey. You're in free agency. 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: But so let's that's let's kind of dive into it 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: in terms of free agency. So just to kick things off, 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's kind of two ways to look 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: at it. One is all the players that the Ravens 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: have who are going to become free agents, and is 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: a long list. Luckily, Justin Mattabik is not going to 29 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: hit the open market because the Ravens did put the 30 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: franchise tag on him, but they're still working towards that 31 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: long term deal, which has implications in terms of the 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: amount of money that the Ravens could have to spend elsewhere. 33 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: But it's a long list of guys. The other part 34 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: is players who the Ravens could potentially go out and get, 35 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: whether that's an offensive lineman or running back, any position. 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: So I guess to start the conversation, let's talk about 37 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens own guys. And I think that Patrick Queen 38 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: probably leads that that conversation, knowing that Madabik is already 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: under the tag. 40 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think that, Uh love Patrick Queen, 41 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: as we said many times, wish he could stay. Don't 42 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: anticipate that's going to happen. I think that he'll get 43 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: a sizable deal. I don't know that the linebacker inside 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: linebacker market's going to be popping, but he's at the 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: top of the list. And anytime you're you're at the 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: top of the list at your position going into free agency, 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: you're in a good spot. So I expect that he's 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: going to get a deal in the probably eighteen to 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars average annual salary range, and that he's 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna go elsewhere, And you know, whether that's to Seattle 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: playing for Mike McDonald. You know, Mike knows how to 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: certainly use peak you and all his talents. The one 53 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: place I hope that it's Pittsburgh. Yeah, that's you know, 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: you're just I think the peak you's gone. But you 55 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: just hope he doesn't go somewhere like Pittsburgh. 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. When you see like the reports going into free 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: agency and the buzz starts around Patrick Queen going to 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: the Steelers, I like nothing about that. I hate that. 59 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: I barked in my in my mouth. 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: I hate that. Yeah, I hate that. I do think that, like, yeah, Seattle, 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: if he leaves and he goes to Seattle, it's like 62 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: all right, Great, you get to stay with Mike and 63 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: you get to go out there. I can root for you, 64 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: you know, well, I'm happy for you got a big 65 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: contract like that. Seems like everybody wins in that situation. 66 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: You go to Pittsburgh and it just leaves a sour 67 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: taste in your mouth. 68 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: But I'm less happy for him if he goes to. 69 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I think that you know, 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: he's likely done. I just think that as much as 71 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: I would love to find a scenario, you know, I 72 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: actually talked with Field Yates from ESPN about this at 73 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: the combine and I asked him, like, is there any 74 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: way that the Ravens find a way to keep Patrick 75 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: Queen in matabk And he basically said, like Queen would 76 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: have to take a discount. That was basically the way 77 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: that he broke it down. And I don't think that 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: a guy who's getting his chance to get his big 79 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: paydays is going to take a discount, nor should he. 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: And so I think that, like the Ravens have already 81 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: made their big commitment at linebacker to ro Quant Smith 82 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: at you know, average twenty million dollars a year, Patrick 83 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: Queen's going to be in that neighborhood. And I think 84 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: that there's a team that's going to play him, pay 85 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: him and get a get a really good player who 86 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: who is an impact player on for a defense. 87 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Yep, totally agree. Outside of that, you know, it will 88 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see. Uh, there's a lot of 89 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: talking with so many free agencies. There's a lot of 90 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the Ravens are just gonna get 91 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: raided there. Their roster is gonna get raided. And I 92 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: don't I don't really know that we're gonna see a 93 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: lot of other guys pop off really quickly. I think 94 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: that p Hugh's gonna go fast. That might be the 95 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: old Monday, you know, agreed to terms, you know, in 96 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: the legal tampering period. Kind of deal wouldn't surprise me. 97 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: But you look at some of the Ravens other top guys, 98 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney, Kyle van Noy, you know, Odell Beckham Junior. 99 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: Those are some of the top names there. Geno Stone right, 100 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeidler. I don't know that any of those guys 101 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: go really fast. I think that they could sit out 102 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: there for a little bit. And here are the reasons. A. 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: They're they're tough about tougher evaluations, I think for front offices, right, 104 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: like Clowney and van Noy, van Noy was on his 105 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: couch all summer. Vanoy was on his couch into the season, right, So, 106 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: like the rest of the league, Vanoy proved the rest 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: of the league wrong that he didn't have enough what 108 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: it took. He didn't have anything left basically right, or 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: at least as much as he would, you know, as 110 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: much for as much as money as he wanted it. 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: I can't get that way out. Yeah, you know, they 112 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: didn't think the value was there. Now he proved that wrong. 113 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: But like I think it's it's hard to change front 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: office's minds if they've already kind of decided your toast. 115 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that they're going to change their mind. 116 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the tough thing for really Clowney and van Nola. 117 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean, those guys were great last year. I think 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: you make a good point, like, once the league is 119 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: kind of decided, even if it's proven to be an 120 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: incorrect assumption. 121 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: That was Mike McDonald and Mike McDonald's defense. You know 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: that brought out the best of them. But I don't 123 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: know that we're going to get a repea can. 124 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: You do it again? Can you do it again? 125 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: Exactly? 126 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: And it's like that's that could be the league perception. 127 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: I don't really agree with that, but I think that, like, 128 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: you know, the league could kind of make that decision potentially, 129 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: or you know, I also think that there is there 130 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: is potential that somebody says, look, this guy proved he 131 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: still has he still has good football in front of him. 132 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's not like a long term contract at 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: this stage of the career for either of them, but 134 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: let's go ahead and get this guy who can be 135 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: an impact player for our defense and really bolster our 136 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: pass rush. I agree with you that, like I don't 137 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: know that it happens, you know, March fifteenth. I think 138 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: that could be a move that happens deep into the 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: spring and maybe even the summer. 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's well documented that Clowney is in no 141 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: rush to sign any deal. He's he's waited a long 142 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: time every single offseason, yeah, and pretty much, and so 143 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: I think that he's going to sit out there and 144 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: probably you know, figure out For veterans too, It's it's 145 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: really a lot about fit. You know, they're not It's 146 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: not like Patrick queen, where you're this is your big payday, clown, 147 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: He's already had paydays. Kyle van Noy's had his big payday, right. 148 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: They're looking to get paid again. They're looking for a 149 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: pay increase from what they got last year, and they 150 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: deserve that, right, But this isn't there one bite at 151 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: the apple for them at this point of their career. 152 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: It's really about right place, right fit. And I ultimately 153 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: think that could very well be Baltimore for one, if 154 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: not both of those guys, because I think that they're 155 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna sit out there and and the Ravens are the 156 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: masters of kind of the second or third waves of 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: free agency, and let's let's see. You know, they're gonna 158 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: let those guys test the market, see what they're see 159 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: what they can get. And it wouldn't surprise me if, ultimately, 160 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: especially if the Ravens were to free up cap space 161 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: down the road, that now they're in a better position 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: to offer those guys a one or two year deal. 163 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way I see it. I mean, also 164 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: van Ney and I think part of this was a 165 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: little bit tongue in cheek, but there there was a 166 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: little bit of truth in it. Last year when he 167 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: came out and he was, you know, balling from his 168 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: very first game with the Ravens, and people asked him 169 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: about it, and he made the point in his postgame 170 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: preshcot friends, who needs training camp. I think that like 171 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: there's a again, I think there was. I think that 172 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: was kind of tongue of cheap. But at the same time, like, 173 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't think that he's he's gonna be pressed to 174 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: sign a contract. 175 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Oh, He's in no rush to sign a deal with 176 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: the expectation that he's going to show up for otet 177 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: like with a new team. 178 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think he's going to be too 179 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: pressed about that. 180 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: No, I think And Clowney, let's also point out that 181 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: John Harball told you that he bumped into Clowney's agent 182 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and his agent said that Clowney's Clowney finished 183 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: the year happy for the first time in his career. Yeah, 184 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: so there's obviously a connection there that I think that 185 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: Clowney would like to stay if the Ravens can make 186 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: him a fair offer. What he believes is a fair 187 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: offer and his agent believes is fair. I think he 188 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: would like to stay. I think the same thing for 189 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: van Ney. 190 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: I think that, like, if I'm guessing right now, I 191 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: feel like Clowney ends up back here. I don't know 192 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: when that deal gets done, but I don't feel like 193 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: he's going to be in purple black this year. 194 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with that. 195 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: The other I think, the other free agent situation that 196 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: is really tough to predict a Geno Stone, Yep. I 197 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: just think that he is a difficult evaluation and he 198 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: had a great season. He led the AFC interceptions, might 199 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: have might have led the entire league if he had 200 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: continued to play as a starter, if Marcus Williams hadn't 201 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: come back late in the season. You know, he just 202 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: if he had kept up his space early, if he 203 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: kept up his pace early in the season, he would 204 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: have had Ed Reid type here. But I mean, Stone 205 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: proved that he can be a starter in this league. 206 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: I think that there's no question about that. Geno Stone 207 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: is a starting caliber safety. He's a really good player. 208 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: But going back to the whole conversation around like league perception, 209 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: it's hard to shake the fact when you're a seventh 210 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: round pick and he wasn't a starter here and for 211 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: much of his for much of his time and you know, 212 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: so how do you how do teams evaluate him like that? 213 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: That all plays into it. I think that somebody does 214 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: pay him and he has a starting role next year, 215 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: but what does that contract look like? And if he's 216 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: feeling like it's not a great offer, and then does 217 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: he say, you know what, I can come back to Baltimore, 218 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: play a really important role in this defense, be an 219 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: impact player, step in in case, you know, Kyle Hamilton 220 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: or Marcus Williams were to be sidelined for any period 221 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: of time, and even if they're not, I can still 222 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: play a really important role in the defense. And I 223 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: like it here, you know, could he go that way? 224 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: I just think it's that one I have a hard 225 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: time figuring out. 226 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: Well. I think that one. If you had asked me 227 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: a week ago, I would have said, yeah, for sure. 228 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: And after the Combine press conferences, it almost sounded like 229 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: a farewell to Gino Stone. I think we said that. 230 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Since then, things have changed. A lot of safeties have 231 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: been released around the NFL, A lot, right, so there's 232 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: a lot of really good players. I mean, Micah Hyde, 233 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, both the Bills safeties, Xavier McKinney. I mean 234 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: Justin Simmons now is on the market, Kevin Byerd, I 235 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: mean there are both the Seahawks safeties Condrey Diggs, Cadre 236 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: Diggs and Jamal Adams, Jeremy Chin, like, there are a 237 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: lot of free agent safeties right now. That is not 238 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: good news for Genostone, right, So, I mean it's almost 239 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: a game of musical chairs. You know how many teams 240 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: are looking the sign a veteran free agent free agent safety? 241 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: Not not half the league, right, And so you just 242 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: run out of chairs eventually, And and it's kind of 243 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: like the more the more guys that hit the open market, 244 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: the more his price probably goes down. Genostones's price goes down, 245 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: And the more his price goes down, the more a 246 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: return to Baltimore, the more likely that return becomes. And 247 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: ultimately that's another case where it wouldn't surprise me if 248 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: Genostones is out on the market for a while, isn't 249 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: getting what he wants exactly and says, you know what, Yeah, 250 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back. And let's be honest. It's not 251 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: like Marcus Williams has been, you know, super dependable because 252 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: of injuries, and you know, so the Ravens could use 253 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: another free safety. Yeah, Marcus Williams has been injured a lot. 254 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: Gino Simms has gotten a lot of a lot of 255 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: playing time, and so I think the Ravens would be 256 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: interested in bringing back Gino at the right cost and 257 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: probably not a super long term deal. But I think 258 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: having another backup to Marcus Williams would be a good 259 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: thing for the Ravens as well. 260 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just like you know, I think 261 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: the important distinction too, is like it's not just a 262 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: backup where it's good to have insurance. It's it's he's 263 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: your sixth. 264 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: You're playing a lot of snaps. 265 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's it's kind of like Patrick 266 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: McCarry on the offensive line, who's basically the backup at 267 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: every position and ends up playing a good number of snaps. 268 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: It's probably even more significant than that because Stone is 269 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: going to have a role every single game on defense 270 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: if he is on the team. 271 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: Sometimes McCarry sees five snaps, right right, Gino Stones would 272 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: not have a defensive game where he sees five snaps. 273 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: You know, Like, I don't know if this would be 274 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: the case, but to me, like I go back to 275 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty Chuck Clark got a three year, fifteen 276 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: million dollar contract in the Ravens. Is that you know, 277 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: like the range that he would be looking at, do 278 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: you know in that in that ballpark, like a three 279 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: year fifteen but it'd be more It's like it's so again, 280 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: tough evaluation, a lot of safeties I think complicate the matter. 281 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: Would love to if there's a way to find him 282 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: back here. I still probably think that, you know, as 283 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: Eric Tacosta talked to the Combine, he's probably the best 284 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: seventh round pick in franchise history, and he may have 285 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: priced himself out and played him way into a starting 286 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: role in a nice contract elsewhere. And it's similar to 287 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: the conversation around Patrick Queen. You're happy for a guy 288 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: if he ends up doing that. I still probably shade 289 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: in that direction. But I do think that the percentages 290 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: have gone up to a certain degree that he could 291 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: ultimately land back in Baltimore. 292 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: I would agree with that couple other players. Odell Beckham, Yeah, 293 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: you know, I think that I don't expect that he's 294 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: going to fly off another player, another veteran, where I 295 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: think it's really going to be about fit, what his 296 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: role is, all those things wouldn't rule out a return 297 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: to Baltimore down the line. Jessina Anderson, who you know 298 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: seems to get all the scoops with OBJ and have 299 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: insider information, says, you know, she thinks the Chiefs, forty 300 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: nine Ers, Jets, Rams, or possibly returning to the Ravens 301 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: are five good landing spots for OBJ. So I think 302 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: that he's gonna really kind of kick the tires elsewhere. 303 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: See what's out there, see what kind of fit. It 304 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if that's even after the draft. As teams, 305 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, see if they if the Chiefs were to 306 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: draft a first round wide receiver, they'd be less interested 307 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: in probably bringing in Nodell. If they didn't or one 308 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: of those other teams didn't, and they still feel like 309 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: they have an open spot for a big time player, 310 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: if not a starter, then they'd be more interested. So 311 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: another case where I don't think on March thirteenth we're 312 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: gonna hear reports of Odell Beckham's found a suitor. Yeah, 313 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: he sat out there last year. 314 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he sat out signed in April last year the 315 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: previous year, and now of course he was coming off 316 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: the injury, didn't play at all as he was getting healthy, 317 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: so he's he is familiar with this process. I don't 318 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: think that he is gonna be in a rush to 319 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: get a deal done. And I think that he's another 320 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: guy I think fit is really important. He wants to 321 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: feel like he goes to the right team, right city, 322 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: right situation. You know, just go back to all the 323 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: conversations that the Ravens had and he had when he 324 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: first signed here about talking with Steve Bushatti and talking 325 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: about the meeting that he had with the Ravens in 326 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: Arizona at the owners meetings. I mean, he is he 327 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: is a player and a personality at such an elite 328 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: level that you know, there's lots of conversations I think, 329 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, on his side and on the team side 330 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: of feeling like this is the right fit, and he 331 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: kind of went dialogue. You know, he shared a lot 332 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: about that last year. I found out to be pretty 333 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: interesting and I would expect a similar process for him 334 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: as he goes through this. I think a question for 335 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: me is like if the Ravens, if the Ravens don't 336 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: if he doesn't return, are they active in the receiver 337 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: market with somebody else? Like if he's gone, No, So 338 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: you think they just set that out and then wait 339 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: till the draft. 340 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they wait until the draft, and then 341 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: maybe they go bargain shopping after the draft for a 342 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver. 343 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 344 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I do not think all these trade scenarios. You know, 345 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: see him floating out about Deebo Samuel trading for Debo. 346 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: He's got a twenty million dollar base salary that you've 347 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: taken on. Are you kidding me? It's not happening. That's 348 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: not happening. And so I think that the Ravens feel 349 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: pretty good about their trio right now with Zay Flowers, 350 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: Rasha Bateman, and Nelson Agualore. I think that history, recent 351 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: history tells you is pretty pretty darn conclusive that you 352 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: can count on a rookie wide receiver to be productive 353 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: in year one from the draft. The draft is loaded 354 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: at wide receiver. They're saying the past three years have 355 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: been really loaded with players that made big year one impacts. 356 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and you're not just I'm not just talking 357 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: about first round guys, second round, third round Pookin Nakua 358 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: was beyond that. Yeah, fifth rounder right now, right now, 359 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of the exception. 360 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: Just find the Pooka this year. 361 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just find pookin Nuhua. You're good, you know. But 362 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying is like it doesn't even have 363 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: to be a first round wide receiver. A lot of 364 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: teams are getting product. Josh Downs last year I think 365 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: was a third round pick. There are guys in the 366 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: third round that are coming in and making an impact. 367 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're a number one right away, but 368 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens have their number one in z eight Flowers, right, 369 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: and maybe whatever people's definition is of a true number one, Like, okay, 370 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: you know what's a number one. I don't care how 371 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: he looks. Is he putting up a thousand yards? Because 372 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is gonna do that next year, right, That's 373 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: that's number one numbers for me, you know. And so like, 374 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't care what package he comes in, he's putting 375 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: up yards. And so the Ravens I think are going 376 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: to go into this. They're wide receivers are expensive, and 377 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: news flash, the Ravens don't have a lot of money 378 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: to spend the rere agent market, and so like they 379 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: are not gonna play in those waters for the free agents, 380 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: and that includes trading for one and that includes signing 381 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: for signing one. They're gonna wait out the wide receiver market. 382 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: It's loaded it at uh. In the draft, they're gonna 383 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: see if they can draft one. You know, I would 384 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 1: say if they draft one day one, day two, they 385 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: feel pretty pretty good about it. And would they supplement. Sure. 386 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: And I think if they didn't get a Day one 387 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: or Day two receiver, maybe that that causes them to 388 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: spend a little bit more money down the road in 389 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: signing a guy who's still out on the market whose 390 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: prices come down. You know, teams have passed on them, 391 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: and maybe they get aggressive at that point. But it's 392 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be aggressive right now. Yeah, I would be shocked. 393 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, to your point about about 394 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: receivers and their expense, I mean, just look at Mike Evans. 395 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: You know, who's a guy who's been a great player, 396 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: but he's you know, he's on the back nine of 397 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 2: his career. 398 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: He's on like the back five of his career. 399 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just got a massive deal forty one 400 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: million dollars over two years. You know, So receivers are expensive. 401 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: I think these top receivers, right, the top receivers, what 402 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: I think is gonna happen in the receiver market. The 403 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: guys the top whatever five to ten maybe are gonna 404 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: get paid paid like big deals. Yeah, right, Ravens definitely 405 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: aren't playing that. I think there's a chance if other 406 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: teams see it the way that I see it, that Hey, 407 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: the draft is alerted a wide receiver like times have changed. 408 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: We can count on drafting these guys and then making 409 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: a big impact. We're gonna not like we're gonna wait 410 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: on the wide receiver market. Maybe the receiver market for 411 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: the tier two and three guys kind of cools a 412 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: little bit and prices drop, and like then I could 413 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: see maybe the Ravens getting involved, right. I think other 414 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: teams also decide that, yeah, exactly. 415 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: And I think basically, could there be now they signed 416 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: Nelson Aguilar earlier in the process last year, but could 417 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: there be another Nelson Aguilar type receiver at that price 418 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: point who the Ravens ultimately end up signing. I think 419 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: that there is a chance for that depending on how 420 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: the draft goes. And I don't know who that guy is, 421 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: but I think that there's potential for that. 422 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: All right. 423 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: So the last position group to look at in terms 424 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: of Raven's free agents. I think it's running back and 425 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: JK Dobbin's Gus Edwards both free agents, and Dalvin Cook 426 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: and Dalvin Cook. Eric ta Costa indicated that there's a 427 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: chance that they could get deals done with with Gus 428 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: and JK and there's interest there. Do you think either 429 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: of those guys come back to Baltimore? How does that 430 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: play out? 431 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: Again? I don't think that these are guys that are 432 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: going to fly off the shelves as soon as free 433 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: agency opens. Obviously JK with his injury history, Gus, I 434 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: don't know that the league is going to be clamoring 435 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: to sign, you know, a power running back who has 436 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: a fair amount of wear so far on his tires 437 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: and some injury history. So I think that those are 438 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: also going to be especially with as many running backs 439 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: as are available, the market's going to be cool. That's 440 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: just how it works on running backs. It's how it's 441 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: worked the past couple year, especially last offseason. It's gonna 442 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: be pretty chill. I think maybe outside of Saquon and 443 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: maybe outside of Derrick Henry, like some of those top 444 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: guys could possibly go fairly quickly. But other than that, 445 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be slow to play out, and 446 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: I expect that to be the case for JK and Gus. 447 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 2: All right, so we'll take a quick break and then 448 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll continue that conversation about the 449 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: running backs, because if there's one question, we're getting more 450 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: than anything else to the Ravens mailbag, and you can 451 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: always email us at the Lounge at Ravens donfl dot net. 452 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: But it's about the running backs. So we'll take a 453 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: break and continue that conversation. 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What do you think? 473 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: I think they are going to be in that market. 474 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they're playing those waters. As I 475 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: said before, you know, I'm starting to nail some of 476 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: these sayings, Garrett. I don't want to alarm you, but 477 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: I might be turning the page. 478 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, good, that's good. I'm turning over a new leaf. 479 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: Turning over a new leaf is another one. Turning the 480 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: page page isn't quite right. As you're talking about how 481 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: you're doling it, you screw it up. 482 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm back to mediocre. YEA at best. I do think 483 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be interested and involved in that market, 484 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: in part because A the need is there, right the 485 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Ravens need. I think a lead running back just Sill's phenomenal. 486 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: I think that he'll definitely have a big role. I 487 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: think they're looking for a number one running back that's 488 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: gonna take that room to another level like they've wanted 489 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: to the past several years, but injuries have prevented them 490 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: from doing. It's also not a particularly expensive market. We 491 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: just got done talking about how pricey wide receivers are. 492 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: Running Backs are the opposite. You know, you're talking for 493 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: the top. We're talking about some of the biggest name 494 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: running backs in the league that are now available, Saquon Barkley, 495 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs. And the projected average salary of 496 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: these guys is like ten million dollars a year. Those 497 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: are numbers that the Ravens, as tight as they are 498 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: against the salary cap, can maneuver around. I think those 499 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: are deals the Ravens can make, especially because you're probably 500 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: not eating that ten million in year one, right, you 501 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: can spread that out a little bit. And so yeah, 502 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are going to be in that market. 503 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Whether it happens or not, I don't know, And I 504 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: think if it doesn't happen, then they can revisit the 505 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: JK gus, you know, bring back the squad and maybe 506 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: draft somebody strategy. But I think that they will be 507 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: involved in that in those discussions with the top running 508 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: back free agents. 509 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that there's there's high quality players 510 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 2: there in that mix. You know, everyone's asking about Henry. 511 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: I think that I think that the way the Ravens 512 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 2: approach it is, you know, I think that they probably 513 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: talk to all of these guys, all of their agents, 514 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: see what the market's looking like, and then you know, 515 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: try to I don't think that they have to to 516 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: force it necessarily with any of them any one player, 517 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: because you know, there's there's multiple high quality players. I mean, 518 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: Saquan and Josh Jacobs are great, Derrick Henry's great, you know, 519 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: so like you have some great options out there, and 520 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: you know, I think that they can they can kind 521 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: of see how the market is dictating things. Like you 522 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: don't want to get left out necessarily, but I think 523 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: that like there's there's a lot of good options, and 524 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: I think that you know, er Ticosta has talked about 525 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: how he's learned from how he knew some patients. I 526 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: think that patients could be valuable as they go through 527 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: this whole cycle, but the running back position in particular, 528 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: and I just really wonder if what the national conversation 529 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: is around the running back market in two weeks. You know, 530 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: last year it was all about the zoom calls and 531 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: the running backs talking to each other about the depressed 532 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: market and in the in the NFL landscape on the 533 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 2: running back front. That was like one of the big 534 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: storylines of last offseason. Is that the case again this year? 535 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: Does that change? We'll see, But I think that I 536 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: do think. 537 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: That I think that's going to be the case again 538 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: this year. 539 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think that the Ravens could benefit 540 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: from that and get a really good player, like if 541 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: you can get a if you can get a dynamic 542 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: running back added to that, to this offense, I really 543 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: do think that it can take this offense to another level. 544 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ravens are looking to upgrade the offense, right, 545 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: You're not looking to just stay the same or get worse, right, 546 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: because you're gonna lose some players and the focus is 547 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. But one way that I do 548 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: think you can upgrade this offense, which is always the 549 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: goal of every offseason, even when you have somebody free 550 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: agents like the Ravens do is to add a dynamic 551 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: running back, which okay, between Saquon Derrick, Henry, Josh Jacobs, 552 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: which one do you think Tony Pollard, you know, of 553 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: those big name guys, who do you think is most 554 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: likely to come to Baltimore. 555 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: The true answer is like, I don't know that. I 556 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: guess I would say Henry just because there's been all 557 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: this buzz around him, and like, I don't know if 558 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: that's real or not. 559 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Well, certainly all the reports that the Ravens were trying 560 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: to trade for him last year's trade deadline and that 561 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: that got cut, that got nixed at the last minute, Yeah, exactly. 562 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: And so there's those reports in that buzz that's out there. 563 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: So I guess, like if I'm if I'm picking one, 564 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: it's Henry. But the true answer in my mind is that, like, 565 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that, I don't necessarily think the Ravens 566 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: would be locked in on one of those guys in 567 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: particular and say we we want and cast aside everybody else. 568 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: I think that they can be. 569 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 1: I think they definitely have their number list, though I 570 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: think they have. 571 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: And I don't know I don't know that. Like, I 572 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: think all three of those running backs, particularly those top three, 573 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, Josh Shacobs, Sakuon Barkley, I think that they 574 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: all have some different different traits, but they're all great 575 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: running backs. And so if you get any of them, 576 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: I feel really good about that. I think the Ravens 577 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: feel really good about that. 578 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. I feel I would feel good about 579 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: any of them. I think I think Henry's number one 580 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: most likely. Yeah, maybe think his physicality, what that presents 581 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: as a compliment to Lamar Jackson. 582 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Maybe you're right. I just 583 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: to me that it's it's hard to separate them that 584 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: like durability, they all to me have some like they're 585 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: all great, and I don't know that. I I think 586 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: it's kind of splitting hairs to me with those three guys. 587 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: This is why you're not a pro scout. 588 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: See. That's the difference. That the difference, the difference. See you, 589 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: you would be locked in I and. 590 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm like you're saying, I'm talking to all of them, 591 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm keeping all those stores open. But I've got my priorities, 592 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: I've got my list. 593 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: Of course, everyone's got the list. Everyone's got their list, 594 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: and I'm sure the Ravens have the list. I think 595 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: it just might be one A, one B, one C, 596 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, splitting hairs a little bit. I think they also, 597 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure have a list on the offensive line. You know, 598 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: we're talking about running back, but I think that more 599 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: than anything else, the Ravens have made clear that the offense, 600 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: offensive line is is is the top priority this offseason, 601 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: and part of that could be changes with the current 602 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: offensive line. Kevin Seitler free agent, John Simpson free agent. 603 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: Who knows what happens with the tackles. They're both under contract, 604 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: but you know they both hear next year and Morgan Moses, 605 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley will have to wait and see. So there's 606 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: a rebuild going on with this offensive line. Do you 607 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: if the Ravens were to go out and try to 608 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: get somebody in the market, like, what does that look 609 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: like in your mind? 610 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tougher one to size up. I think 611 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's probably a veteran guard who could 612 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: potentially play tackle is what I would look like. You know, 613 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: we talked about Kevin Zeidler was a great signing a 614 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: few years ago. It's it's a Zeitler like signing where 615 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: they because right now you look at it and you're 616 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: looking at a combination of Ben Cleveland Sala Vorhees at 617 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: guard right and they I assume will we'll draft. I 618 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: think they'll probably draft a guard as well. But to 619 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: expect unless you get them in round one or two, 620 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: to expect that guy to come in and start is 621 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, probably unreasonable that that would be lofty, let's say. So, 622 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if they're on the lookout for 623 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: a guard that is a little bit more of a 624 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: budget budget signing it guard, Yeah, that's probably what I 625 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: expect it inziety, and it wouldn't shock me if it's 626 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: somebody that got released. Yeah, because I think that they're 627 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: probably going to play the compensatory pick game when it 628 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: comes to adding a veteran guard. 629 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that that's probably a good way to 630 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: look at it. And Zeitler got a three year, twenty 631 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: two million dollar contract from the Ravens back in twenty 632 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: twenty one. If I'm guessing right now, I think that 633 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: they would probably like to find something a little bit 634 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: cheaper than that. That's not a massive contract. You know, 635 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: just you know, seven and a half million a year, 636 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: but the Ravens are tight against the cap, and if 637 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: they're getting the big running back potentially they may have 638 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: now they can play, you know, they can play the 639 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: game in terms of deferring some of that money and 640 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: all that. But I think that I think that if 641 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: they keep Mattabek on the franchise tag, then you might 642 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: be looking at a cheaper option at guard, especially if 643 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: you're trying to get in the running back market. 644 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I totally agree. And of those three guys 645 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: that I name, those three young players, like, I don't 646 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: think they're in a bad, you know, dire situation at guard. 647 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 648 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: I think that Ben Cleveland's proven himself and he needs 649 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: to continue to improve and all that. And I think 650 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued by what war he used in Saliku. 651 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Do is they developed where he's was a monster in college? 652 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: This guy would have been a Day two pick probably 653 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: had he not been injured. And he's healthy again. You know, 654 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: I spoke to him and he's good to go, and 655 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: so I don't think they're in a dire situation at guard, 656 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: so they can be a little bit more patient there. 657 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: See what comes about or or they you know, one 658 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: or two like that wouldn't surprise me if their first 659 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: outside signing were at Guard. One day goes by, two 660 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: days go by. These guys don't fly off and they say, 661 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: you know what, Baltimore, this is a pretty good offer. 662 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Let's go uh huh that. You know. I ultimately think 663 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: that what's gonna happen is a lot of these Ravens 664 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: fre you just are gonna go out on the market 665 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: and some of the let's talk about like the Malik Harrison's, 666 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: the Brent Urbans, you know, some of those guys, let's say, 667 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: the Ronald Darby's of the world. Those guys could get 668 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: out there, not get a big deal right away, not 669 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: getting off or right away, and like pretty soon thereafter 670 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: say yeah, I'll come back. 671 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, sure, I'm sure. 672 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: I dip my toe in the water, didn't feel particularly warm. 673 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: Uh so I'm gonna come back to your pool. 674 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that that's especially true for like Brent Urban. 675 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: You know, Darby sat out there for a long time 676 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: last year. I think I would I would like if 677 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: the Rams were able to bring him back. I thought 678 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: he was a really important player, and like I agree 679 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't like, you know what, we're thirty minutes in 680 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: here and we're just now mentioning him like like probably 681 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: not getting the attention that he does as a free agent. 682 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: But the news deals could also get done even before 683 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: free agency opens. Yeah, that's we might be to the point. 684 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: We might be to the point with some of those guys. 685 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 1: Some of them I think are like a Darby, are 686 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: probably more likely to say I want to test the market. 687 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: I want to see after I had a good season, 688 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: what my market is like out there. But ultimately it 689 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if the market is not as you know, 690 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't pop for them as much as maybe they 691 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: hope and they say, yeah, I'll come back. Like, I 692 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: think there's a fair amount of that that's going to happen. 693 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: That the Ravens ultimately keep a lot of these free agents. 694 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: They play the compensatory pick game. They're going to lose 695 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: some of them. They're definitely going to lose some they 696 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: play the compensatory pick game, and they end up with 697 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: one hundred draft picks next offseason. 698 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that's part of what the Ravens have done. 699 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: Like go back to last year they resigned Justice Hill 700 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: and they re signed Genostone, so you know, like they 701 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: weren't big time signings, but they were you know, bringing 702 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: back quality players at an affordable price. 703 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I guess they're not going to get a 704 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: hundred compenstory picks next offseason if they bring back a 705 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of these guys. Right, if you bring back Cliwn, 706 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: you bring back Geno, potentially you bring back Derby, Like 707 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: you're not actually gonna get you know, I think they're 708 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna lose Queen, as we said, and you're gonna 709 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: lose some other some other guys, but there's not gonna 710 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: be as many big ones. I don't think there's gonna 711 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: be as much loss as maybe people are expecting. Like 712 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of buzz about the Ravens just getting raided, 713 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: and I guess I don't know that that's gonna happen. 714 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, the truth is somewhere in the middle. 715 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: I think that, like you probably just kind of summarize. 716 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: I think Queen probably goes. I still think Geno probably goes. 717 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: You probably maybe you may bring back one of van 718 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: Ney or Clowney, but Zeitler, Zeitler probably goes. Zeitler probably goes, 719 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: so like right there, you know those are those are 720 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: all key starters or players on this. 721 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: Those are four potential compacts. 722 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you get four, you know there, then 723 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: that's that's. 724 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get four. They're gonna sign some someone 725 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: some uh unrestricted vie agent. You know, that's going to 726 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: offset one of those. But yeah, you might be You're 727 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: looking at probably two to three compics next year, the 728 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: way the Ravens play the game. 729 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll be breaking down all of this over 730 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: the course of free agency. Let us know what questions 731 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: you have and who you would love to see the 732 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: Ravens sign. You can email us at the Lounge at 733 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: Ravens dot NFL dot net and we will continue to 734 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: keep your posted throughout this process as the Ravens make 735 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: moves throughout free agency. Thanks for listening. We'll talk with 736 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: you again soon.