WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Grading the First Wave 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:05.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:15.480 No Cowboys This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.760 Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in frist. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:26.920 Joe ten Burns's got TINSI ty patient touchdown and. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:33.320 Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:34.600 Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.479 It's in off season edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.240 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:49.519 Texas and the studio. Welcome in, everybody. We've got Josh Roderiguez, 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.559 Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.000 Glad you're with us. No Patrick, no c Walker, come 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:00.800 on day. Unfortunately, our man is dealing with some rehab. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.880 I know he's sitting in bed. I wish he was here. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.200 He is on IR at the moment, Oh my god, 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.480 he is. I r for sure, wishing nothing but the 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.600 best for Patrick who injured his his leg last week. 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.800 And man a big bro. Yeah, explosive he was. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.319 He was rounding third, about to score the winning run 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:25.120 after hitting a inside the park homer, his speed blazing 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.120 around the base pass in a tie game. Really it was. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.479 It was one of those that like inside the park, homers, 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.080 I hit the very bottom half of the fence, you know, 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.160 like it just barely stayed in the yard. He hit 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.880 it good, though, so he had to use his speed 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.440 to get around the bases and just ruptured his tele 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.240 a tendon. There he goes, but. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.319 Shouts to him in quick recovery, of course, Patrick Nussey Walker. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.440 I hope, I hope I did his story any justice. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.240 I don't know if that's actually how it happened, but 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.080 I just wanted to give him something cool. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.560 I believe, believe. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.320 Maybe he was like in an Indy car and he 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.000 got in a wreck. The driver beside him made a mistake, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.040 because he didn't make the mistake. There's no no way 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.280 driver Posidon made a mistake to sent him into the wall, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:04.440 you know, things like that. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.480 But but shows to him because uh, that's gonna be 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.040 a long recovery process, obviously. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.000 But I know we'll be seeing him here pretty soon. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:11.240 Yeah. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.679 I just I just text him. He said surgery, soone 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:14.880 I'll be back in a building after that. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.120 I was about to say, I'm honestly shocked. You wouldn't 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.920 be here. But if it's the surgery element, that's what 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.000 you gotta wait for. So I love you, Pat appreciate you. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.120 I know he's watching. I know he's probably in the 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:24.760 chat as well. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.560 So he texted us that, I think on on Thursday 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.000 and he was like, all right, guys, I won't be 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:30.560 in tomorrow. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.920 Like that's fair, Like thanks for letting me know. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:35.359 Yeah, that's the picture. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.640 Did enough, now, that's fair. But if I ruptured my 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.720 potel attendant that you wouldn't see me for a year. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.520 I feel like on the sideline, see you guys. Oh man, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:45.840 how's everybody doing? You'll did all right? 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:46.760 Swell man? 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.240 Yeah? Yeah, anybody get to check out the race. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.240 I did not go to the race, but but I 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.840 can tell maybe that you might. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.200 Have checked it out. Did I make it out? 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.320 Did you make it out? 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:57.280 Get out there. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.160 What's funny is Kyle was giving a tour to the 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.799 the IndyCar broadcasters. Together they were on the Grand Prix 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.400 Grand Prix of Arlington broadcast and then also the driver 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.600 who ended up winning the entire Grand Prix of Arlington. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.200 He was in our offices. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:12.560 Yeah, in this studio. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.640 Yeah, like less than a week ago. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.720 Yeah, it was. It was last It was either Wednesday 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.640 or I think it was Thursday morning. Thursday morning, right 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.639 before we did the draft show. I had Will Buxton, 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.960 Townsend Bell and Kyle Kirkwood and we went on a 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.160 tour of the Star, took him around, they took pictures 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.400 of the Super Bowl trophies, and they went to the 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.920 different elements of the Star. Took them to breakfast up 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.240 at the up at the club, and then had one 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.560 of the equipment managers actually gave them cowboys hats and 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.160 I told Kyle, I was like, if you win, it's 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.920 because of the hat, and he was like, no doubt 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:49.120 about it, completely agree, and sure enough he ended up 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.240 winning that weekend. And it was really it was really 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.400 a great event. Shout outs to the entire Arlington community. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.160 They showed out, sold out grand stands. Do you watch 0:03:58.240 --> 0:03:59.880 any of it, dude? 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.960 Was the setup for them to turn at and T 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:07.760 Stadium in the ballpark into you know speedway basically. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.560 The word that was used by drivers, not just fans 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.080 and everybody. It was the perfect street course. They said 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.240 it's the new standard for IndyCar. Really, so they thought 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.000 it was the most well put together first time event 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.200 they've ever experienced. A lot of the drivers said it's 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.960 their favorite street course they've ever raced on, no matter 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.559 what the series, so like, they really did an incredible job. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.640 It was an awesome environment. The race itself was kind 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.640 of interesting because it ended up being less chaotic than 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.600 I think I anticipated, because when I took the track 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.279 tour on Wednesday, I was like, these are it's thin. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.960 It was very narrow straightaways and things like that. I 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.200 thought there were going to be a lot of res 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.160 a lot of like passing zones, and there was a 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.040 lot of passing, not a lot of recks. There was 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.719 one on a restart right at the end of the race, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.120 and that was really about it. So really cool, really 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.200 cool stuff. Can't wait to see what happens next year. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.719 Everybody's kind of asking the question because there's no contract 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.400 pass this year, but the apparently there was a report 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.560 yesterday that there were some talks happening between like the 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.679 next five years or so if it if it looked 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.080 like that in year one, I can't wait to see 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.880 what it does down the stretch because it was really 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:17.320 really cool. Us from the God You Stop It, I 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.479 know that reference too well. Talladegg and nights Baby. All right, 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.279 let's get into some Cowboys offseason as the free agency 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.360 period continues to ramp up. We are going to take 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.839 your calls today. Oh yeah, Talks Nation, Talk to Cowboys 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:36.120 Nation eight eight eight eight five five two. Hey, it 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:37.960 is a talking to It is talking. I should open 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.320 the show that way. It's a talking Tuesday edition eight 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.599 eight eight. We start the show eight five five talk 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.719 Cowboys get uh plenty to talk about since then as well, 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.839 But really I want to break down each of the moves. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.840 We'll do that in the third segment, but kind of 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.360 your general thought, Josh, as we go into some news 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.920 and notes based on the how the Cowboys have done 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.640 since last week in terms of their free agent additions. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.480 Well, to be clear, since last week, the Cowboys obviously 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.320 made some moves. We talked last week about Rashaun Gary, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.200 we talked about Jalen Thompson. But if you look at 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.960 the free agency tracker on Dallas Cowboys. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.040 A little bit, if we didn't get muted there, sorry, we. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.360 Added a few more PJ Lock. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.400 Sam Howell was an interesting name to see on their 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.160 Matt Hennessy, Kobe Durant, Princeton Fan is back. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.960 You also have who else's back. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.120 Sam Williams is returning, So I mean definitely moves that 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.599 have been made. I wouldn't say splash moves by any stretch. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.120 And that was one of the criticisms that we had 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.000 last week before we left the airways, is that the 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.840 splash play isn't quite there yet. And I think I 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.159 would say serviceable. I would say comparatively to the last 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.039 few years of free agency that the Cowboys have had, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.520 this is definitely more. I wouldn't call this bust thing 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.559 the budget in any form or phrase or thought. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.000 I don't think they're done yet. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.200 It was just the first wave, like Kyle alluded to, 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.400 but there's still plenty to go. Linebacker obviously has not 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.560 been addressed at all, and there are quite a few 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.040 linebackers that I think are still out there, still capable 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.720 of starting on this defense obviously, but I think that 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.960 could be reputable contributors to your team, Bobby Wagner, including one. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.760 This is a name that you've seen at least Jesse 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.640 Holly Champion, and I think we were talking about it 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.239 last week even as a name that we would champion 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.200 as a guy that would be a coach on the 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.680 field as well as a great player on the field, 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.040 So there's still a lot to go. I don't think 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.080 the splash has been made by any stretch. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.400 Yeah, I think the initial splash was the Gary trade, 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.480 of course, and what happened was for Jean Gary last week. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.880 But now you add some other pieces that can contend 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.600 for significant snaps. You think about Bobie Durant, you think 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:57.440 about even Matt Hennessy kind of is your brock Hoffman replacement, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.000 even though rock Hoffmann hasn't signed. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.160 He's not signed anywhere, so I mean. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.800 He's not made necessarily a replacement quite yet. But he's 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.120 a glass eater type of versatile offensive lineman that can 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.120 possibly come in in a spot duty sort of situation. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.000 But based on what they've done, it's still not that 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.400 high end move yet. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:17.000 No. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.960 No, I think that's and that's the criticism that you 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.040 can have. Obviously, we had expectations obviously very different from 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.640 what the Cowboys had going in, but we know that 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.560 they made pushes for certain linebackers that were on the 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.360 market that didn't quite you know, go our way for 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.520 whatever reason that it just didn't come our way, which 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.520 is unfortunate. You would hope that the Cowboys would make 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.120 that extra push to secure a guy that they really really. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.160 Want to add to this defense. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.319 But I think now all signs, in my opinion, are 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.640 pointed to the draft, which I don't know is the 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.120 best ness strategy for that position necessarily. I know there 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:51.440 are a lot of really good names, but I mean, 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.839 you're counting on a rookie to come in and you know, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.599 take over all of the starts for a linebacker, which. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.439 You know you don't like it. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:00.400 I don't like Yep. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.400 I don't like those words again, like I'm saying, and 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.760 you'd hope that they still have moves to make in 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.840 free agency in regards to that position. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.040 But what are we waiting on? 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:13.960 Yeah, I mean we talked about it last week, right 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.959 that there were only so many big time moves that 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.520 could have been associated with the Dallas Cowboys, and a 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.720 lot of those guys that we were kind of hoping 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.080 for really got taken off the board. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:24.319 Yep. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.199 I'm talking about the guys that got taken off early. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.000 And then we talk about there was a second wave 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.480 of guys that I know we talked about off air 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.840 in turn of specifically at linebacker that got taken off 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.319 the board by other teams relatively quickly. We have a 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.040 little side chat that every time somebody gets taken we're like. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.439 Oh, Isaiah and I were texting that the entire weeks, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.960 like literally every guy that we wanted is off the board. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.480 Yeah, all the linebackers that we really liked were off 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.120 the board. That's not to say that there aren't guys 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.280 that are still feasible, are guys that can contribute, but 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.600 the guys that we really wanted to set our hat on. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.640 Those guys are gone. So now you're in a situation 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.040 where you're kind of back where you're used to the 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.480 Dallas Cowboys being, which is their searching for discount double 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.480 checks really and late veteran additions. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.360 This is familiar territory. So did they. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.360 Do anything different this season this offseason than they have 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.120 in past years? 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.600 You just alluded to it. Yes, they have. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.240 I like some of their signings. I definitely like pretty 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.800 much like all their signings that they've made. I like 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:25.240 the fact that they brought in Sam Howell. I really 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.400 like that one. I think that is very underrated signing, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.840 and in regards to that position in terms of Dak's 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.200 health in terms of what was behind Dak. I think 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.840 that that creates a lot of competition there and somebody 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.839 that you can really rest your hat on, and I 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.000 think that's important specifically at that position. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.760 I think PJ. Lock obviously the versatility. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.360 There was huge. Jalen Thompson is huge. Both of those 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.840 guys are able to give you versatility both at the 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.440 safety position and being able to come in and play 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.320 a little bit of corner as well. And then Kobe Durant, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.400 I think that was that was definitely a good a 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.440 thrift by you know it. I'll put it that way. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.240 He's a good player, and sometimes you go to thrift 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:06.640 story you can find some good stuff, you know. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.720 And I think that's the exactly what the Dallas Cowboys did. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.520 I think by most accounts, people would feel like Kobe 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.160 Durant probably could have knit it probably probably another three 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.559 or four or four, and they got him for five. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:18.480 So thank you. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.760 That's five max with incentives, that's four base caress. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.040 I'm not sure that's what happened there with him his opportunities, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.320 but thank you, Uh take that all day long. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.959 When we talked to him while he was signing, he 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.160 said that he was he said he was trying to 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.120 let his agent kind of handle everything. Wanted to let 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.439 the process go as it may. And then as soon 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.520 as the agent called and they said Dallas wants you, 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.200 he said, make it happen. So he really wanted to 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.360 be here. I think that's one element of it. And 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.000 then I asked a staff member too, from the from 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:53.719 the front office what they thought about him, and I 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:54.800 kind of said that I was like, he kind of 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.440 got him for a deal, huh, And their first thoughts 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.000 He's like, I don't know, I don't know. He said, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.959 I hope that we got him for a steal, right. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:04.920 I hope that we paid the right amount of money 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.920 for him. But he also said as soon as he 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.240 heard Jordan Lewis like yeah, and saw Jordan Lewis like, 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:13.760 because there was a lot of people that kind of 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.640 compared him to that, even though he didn't play a 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.440 ton in the nickel. He only played like eighty something 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.600 snaps in the Nickel. As soon as he said Jordan 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.840 Lewis like in the type of play, they were bought 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.040 on and spot on. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.079 Board and that's the name that Jerry Jones has been 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.440 very regretful of losing the last officer first time. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.319 Yeah. No, he definitely admitted it. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.200 Vocal about it, Yeah, and vocal about it. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.400 He's brought his name up quite a few times, which 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.559 you know, is surprising, I guess for that regime to 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.160 reference a mistake or you know, something that they regret. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.880 Wasn't there a show that talked about how important. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:46.920 Absolutely absolutely we did. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.760 I was talking to Danny mccraye yesterday about Durant and 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.800 because he hadn't seen any of his tape before, and 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.160 I was like, just watch this highlight reel with me 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.760 real quick, because I had questions about his ability and 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.080 him being undersized, how that compares to like some of 0:12:59.920 --> 0:13:02.400 the corners that we've had in the past. And his 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.880 immediate reference was Seorge Lewis, Like, right off the. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.960 Back, they look similar in the way that they play, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.319 the physicality, the footwork, the speed, I mean all of that. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.440 I think Kobe's not as polished as Jaylu, but honestly, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.520 Jaylu wasn't as polished in the early parts of his 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.080 career too. It took him a little bit of time 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.640 to get there. Durant could be that at some point 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.440 in time, with the right coaching, in the right scenario. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:28.760 Going into this fifth year two, I mean there's still 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:29.880 plenty of from very young. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.840 Yeah, and he has the right mindset, and so I 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.200 think that's one of my favorite underrated signings that Dallas 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.080 has had so far. I'm glad you brought up Sam 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.200 Howe to because it provides competition for Joe Milton. And 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.080 they did release Will Greer. They waived him this past week. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.920 So shout out to Will for everything that he did, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.040 kind of battling back and coming back to the organization 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.600 after he was originally leto a couple of seasons ago. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.640 But now you get a guy like Sam Howe who 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.680 had seventeen games of gameplay two years ago and has 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.400 some experience underneath him to come and challenge Joe Milton. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.200 Very different type of quarterback, very different body, type of quarterback. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.040 When you've got Sam Howe. When he walked in the 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.720 other day, the first thought I had was, Wow, he's 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.120 a lot smaller than I thought he was. Where the 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.920 first time. Yeah, And then the first time I saw 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.200 Joe Milton was like, holy cow, he's way bigger than. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:22.720 I thought he was. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.080 Somehow is a freaking competitor, Yeah, he is. That's one 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.480 thing I think We talked about it a couple of 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.080 years ago when when Washington had felled, you know, he 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.560 was in a position to start for Washington. I was like, hey, man, like, 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.840 watch out with respect on this dude's name when I 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.080 was watching this film because. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:36.360 I like him. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.280 I like him a lot North Carolina, Right, Yeah, Joe 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:40.200 Milton better. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:42.760 Strap him up, buddy. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:43.080 Yeah. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.480 No, I think that's gonna be fun. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.560 But obviously that's a competition that you only want to 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.760 see in the preseason. You know, It's like you absolutely 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:50.760 you only want to see it there. But at least 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.000 there is competition for Joe Milton as opposed to like, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.360 you know, last year was kind of a chew in 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.760 Like I think maybe halfway through camp you're thinking, like, well, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:00.120 I don't know if this show. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.520 The guys really got it. But now it's like he's 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.240 his feet are against the fire now. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:09.840 Mm hmm. Some other the other signings Tito, but you 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.720 got to talk to he was awesome. He was really 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.560 cool from Houston. He was born and raised in Houston. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.120 Was a track and field guy down there too, along 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.000 with playing football. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:19.720 Uh. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.360 He said he's always been a Cowboys fan. He's excited 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.440 to play for the organization, and not everybody always says that. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.680 They always say, hey, I'm excited to play for the organization, 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.920 but not everybody says, I grew up cheering for the 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.000 team that I'm now currently playing for and gets to 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.200 do that. He's a he's going to be a depth piece, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.440 somebody that rotates in and and I think it's it's 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.200 quality depth, depth. 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:42.480 Pey who's in front of him? 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.120 Yeah, you know, like Kenny Clark and Quinnen Williams. Oh okay, yeah, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.120 and so no more, no more Osa, no more Solomon Thomas, 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.320 but that's still a number. No more perry On Winfrey. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.400 But that's a crowded room too. And you need a 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.040 big body, strong dude. And one of the first things 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.480 that I noticed when talking to him was he's got 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.560 a strong handshake man. Well, he almost crushed our hands. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.840 He's a rotational guy for you right now. I think 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:06.360 he's a starter. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.880 You think so, I don't. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:10.720 I disagree. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:12.600 I think I disagree a little bit. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:13.560 Who's your three down? 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:20.680 Three down right now? I mean, Kenny, Hm, Quinn And 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.360 then I. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.400 Were Shawn Gary, are you throwing him on? 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:25.760 You're you're you're standing him up? 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:26.040 Yeah. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.440 See, I think he's gonna play a lot of that 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.360 four I spot. No, oh, I think so? 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.440 And why not? Your draft pick showed some some things 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:33.880 last year. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.320 I'm forging Desert Donovan azrako a. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:39.520 Yeah. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.000 Now, now Tito over to year. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.360 Tito is you're a starter right now? That's right now. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.760 You don't think Gary's gonna play down No. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:49.160 None to three four? 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:49.360 No? 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:49.760 Heck no? 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.520 Oh man, no, Okay, That's why I come back to this. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.280 Look at the Look at the body types right that acquired. Okay, 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.480 look at Gary. Okay, what's Gary size? He is sixty 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.320 five to eighty six four. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:03.840 Two seventy five. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.359 Okay, right, so he's a he's a big, stand up 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.960 outside linebacker. Right when I talked about it before, that's 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.320 the type of type. Sixty two, sixty to twenty five 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.359 to eighty right, those are the guys that you want. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.600 They've gotten rid of their quote unquote undersize defensive lineman. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:20.040 Yep, yep. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.959 And the writing was on the wall before that happened, 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.080 because they signed upon before the trade with OS. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.040 Yes, but I want people to see the trend lines 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.240 here in terms of defensive lineman versus outside linebackers. Your 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.200 defensive linemen are at least three hundred pounds. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.240 Yeah, you're true. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.879 Three four defensive linemen are three hundred plus, and that's 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.840 a change in parts. Usually you're gonna have multiple one 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.440 or zero techniques. They're gonna be three thirty right, three 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.600 twenty three thirty They give the big fellas, right, the 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.240 big nasties. Those guys are gonna be right on the centers. Okay, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.919 Then you're gonna have the more agile three hundred pounders 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.520