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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: No Cowboys This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in frist.

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Speaker 3: Joe ten Burns's got TINSI ty patient touchdown and.

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Speaker 2: Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and

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Speaker 2: Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: It's in off season edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by

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Speaker 3: Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 3: Texas and the studio. Welcome in, everybody. We've got Josh Roderiguez,

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 3: Glad you're with us. No Patrick, no c Walker, come

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Speaker 3: on day. Unfortunately, our man is dealing with some rehab.

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Speaker 3: I know he's sitting in bed. I wish he was here.

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Speaker 3: He is on IR at the moment, Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: he is. I r for sure, wishing nothing but the

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Speaker 3: best for Patrick who injured his his leg last week.

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Speaker 4: And man a big bro. Yeah, explosive he was.

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Speaker 3: He was rounding third, about to score the winning run

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Speaker 3: after hitting a inside the park homer, his speed blazing

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Speaker 3: around the base pass in a tie game. Really it was.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those that like inside the park, homers,

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Speaker 3: I hit the very bottom half of the fence, you know,

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Speaker 3: like it just barely stayed in the yard. He hit

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Speaker 3: it good, though, so he had to use his speed

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Speaker 3: to get around the bases and just ruptured his tele

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Speaker 3: a tendon. There he goes, but.

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Speaker 5: Shouts to him in quick recovery, of course, Patrick Nussey Walker.

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Speaker 3: I hope, I hope I did his story any justice.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's actually how it happened, but

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to give him something cool.

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Speaker 6: I believe, believe.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he was like in an Indy car and he

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Speaker 3: got in a wreck. The driver beside him made a mistake,

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Speaker 3: because he didn't make the mistake. There's no no way

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Speaker 3: driver Posidon made a mistake to sent him into the wall,

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Speaker 3: you know, things like that.

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Speaker 5: But but shows to him because uh, that's gonna be

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Speaker 5: a long recovery process, obviously.

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Speaker 6: But I know we'll be seeing him here pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just I just text him. He said surgery, soone

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Speaker 7: I'll be back in a building after that.

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Speaker 3: I was about to say, I'm honestly shocked. You wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be here. But if it's the surgery element, that's what

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Speaker 3: you gotta wait for. So I love you, Pat appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: I know he's watching. I know he's probably in the

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Speaker 3: chat as well.

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Speaker 5: So he texted us that, I think on on Thursday

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Speaker 5: and he was like, all right, guys, I won't be

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Speaker 3: Like that's fair, Like thanks for letting me know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the picture.

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Speaker 3: Did enough, now, that's fair. But if I ruptured my

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Speaker 3: potel attendant that you wouldn't see me for a year.

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Speaker 3: I feel like on the sideline, see you guys. Oh man,

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Speaker 3: how's everybody doing? You'll did all right?

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Speaker 6: Swell man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, anybody get to check out the race.

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Speaker 6: I did not go to the race, but but I

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Speaker 6: can tell maybe that you might.

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Speaker 3: Have checked it out. Did I make it out?

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Speaker 6: Did you make it out?

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Speaker 3: Get out there.

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Speaker 5: What's funny is Kyle was giving a tour to the

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Speaker 5: the IndyCar broadcasters. Together they were on the Grand Prix

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Speaker 5: Grand Prix of Arlington broadcast and then also the driver

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Speaker 5: who ended up winning the entire Grand Prix of Arlington.

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Speaker 6: He was in our offices.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in this studio.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like less than a week ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was last It was either Wednesday

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Speaker 3: tour of the Star, took him around, they took pictures

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Speaker 3: I told Kyle, I was like, if you win, it's

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Speaker 3: The word that was used by drivers, not just fans

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Speaker 3: It was an awesome environment. The race itself was kind

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Speaker 3: Everybody's kind of asking the question because there's no contract

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Speaker 3: yesterday that there were some talks happening between like the

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Speaker 3: know that reference too well. Talladegg and nights Baby. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's get into some Cowboys offseason as the free agency

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Speaker 3: your calls today. Oh yeah, Talks Nation, Talk to Cowboys

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Speaker 3: Nation eight eight eight eight five five two. Hey, it

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Speaker 3: is a talking to It is talking. I should open

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Speaker 3: the show that way. It's a talking Tuesday edition eight

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Speaker 3: Cowboys get uh plenty to talk about since then as well,

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Speaker 3: But really I want to break down each of the moves.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that in the third segment, but kind of

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Speaker 3: your general thought, Josh, as we go into some news

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Speaker 5: Well, to be clear, since last week, the Cowboys obviously

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Speaker 3: A little bit, if we didn't get muted there, sorry, we.

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Speaker 5: Matt Hennessy, Kobe Durant, Princeton Fan is back.

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Speaker 5: Sam Williams is returning, So I mean definitely moves that

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Speaker 5: And that was one of the criticisms that we had

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Speaker 5: this is definitely more. I wouldn't call this bust thing

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're done yet.

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Speaker 5: It was just the first wave, like Kyle alluded to,

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Speaker 5: So there's still a lot to go. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the initial splash was the Gary trade,

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Speaker 3: But based on what they've done, it's still not that

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Speaker 5: No, I think that's and that's the criticism that you

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Speaker 5: they made pushes for certain linebackers that were on the

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Speaker 5: whatever reason that it just didn't come our way, which

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Speaker 6: Want to add to this defense.

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Speaker 5: But I think now all signs, in my opinion, are

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Speaker 4: You know you don't like it.

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Speaker 6: I don't like Yep.

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Speaker 5: I don't like those words again, like I'm saying, and

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Speaker 5: you'd hope that they still have moves to make in

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we talked about it last week, right

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about the guys that got taken off early.

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Speaker 7: And then we talk about there was a second wave

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Speaker 7: of guys that I know we talked about off air

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Speaker 7: in turn of specifically at linebacker that got taken off

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Speaker 5: Oh, Isaiah and I were texting that the entire weeks,

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Speaker 5: like literally every guy that we wanted is off the board.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all the linebackers that we really liked were off

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Speaker 7: the board. That's not to say that there aren't guys

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Speaker 7: Those guys are gone. So now you're in a situation

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Speaker 4: This is familiar territory. So did they.

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Speaker 7: Do anything different this season this offseason than they have

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the exactly what the Dallas Cowboys did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. No, he definitely admitted it.

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Speaker 5: He's brought his name up quite a few times, which

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Speaker 4: Wasn't there a show that talked about how important.

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Speaker 4: Strap him up, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Some other the other signings Tito, but you

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Speaker 3: He said he's always been a Cowboys fan. He's excited

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Speaker 4: He's a rotational guy for you right now. I think

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Speaker 4: Who's your three down?

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Speaker 3: You're you're you're standing him up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, I think he's gonna play a lot of that

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Speaker 6: And why not? Your draft pick showed some some things

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, now Tito over to year.

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Speaker 4: None to three four?

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Speaker 7: They've gotten rid of their quote unquote undersize defensive lineman.

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Speaker 7: Yes, but I want people to see the trend lines

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Speaker 7: Three four defensive linemen are three hundred plus, and that's

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Speaker 7: Then so those are your down guys, you guys, those

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Speaker 3: And they have said that he will play both.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure he will. He's going primarily he'll be a

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Speaker 7: but right now, are you going to sacrifice having Rashawn

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Speaker 3: Is he good enough? I played that consistently as a starter.

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Speaker 7: I believe that Gary's the greatest benefit that he can

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Speaker 7: So right now, if it's me, I'm I can move

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Speaker 7: For that scheme right there. Okay, So but then I'm

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Speaker 7: two sixty, probably gonna be two sixty five. Donovan Ezakuho

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Speaker 7: is two fifty two, you know, to forty eight somewhere

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Speaker 7: around there. He'll have an extra don under two you'll have. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: he'll be two sixty by the time he hits camp. Right,

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Speaker 7: So two hundred and sixty pounds, that's what I want

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Speaker 7: people to start getting. Those are gonna be your stand

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Speaker 7: up outside linebackers that can go out and set the edge,

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Speaker 7: funnel everything in. They can pass rush, and they can

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Speaker 7: go ahead and set the edge. That is going to

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Speaker 7: be the body type that you're looking So when I

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Speaker 7: know you're mister draft we start looking at this draft stuff,

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Speaker 7: those are gonna be the guys that this this organization

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Speaker 7: is looking for to fill those positional needs. They're either

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Speaker 7: going to be a really big fella they can put

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Speaker 7: his hand in the ground, or they're gonna be uh

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Speaker 7: still a big guy, but not necessarily a down lineman

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Speaker 7: as you would as you would think about it in this.

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Speaker 4: Particular scheme kind of another Rashan Garry exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So mister draft, excuse me. Are those guys gonna

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Speaker 5: be in the third round.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be the question, because can you find your

462
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Speaker 3: linebackers in your corners enough to where in your safeties? Really?

463
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Speaker 3: I think you've maybe you feel good about your safeties

464
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Speaker 3: now or you're in a better place than you were,

465
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Speaker 3: a better place now. But the value lines up with

466
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Speaker 3: linebacker and safety later in the draft than it does

467
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Speaker 3: defensive tackle, slash end guys. You know, the edge rusher

468
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Speaker 3: guys are gonna go early. TJ. Parker is the name

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Speaker 3: that keeps coming to mind for me because he's a

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Speaker 3: big bodied edge rusher out of Clemson. He's kind of

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Speaker 3: that outside guy that maybe can play both a little

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Speaker 3: bit national flexel exactly and everybody ELSEO has to remember

473
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Speaker 3: that it's not going to be ninety percent of the

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Speaker 3: time three four, No, it's going to be a lot

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Speaker 3: of four down linemen and even man front two.

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Speaker 7: And I bring up those sizes because we've heard Christian

477
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Speaker 7: Parker talk about the they're going to be multiple. So

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Speaker 7: if you're going to be multiple, I need guys that

479
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Speaker 7: are at around that two between two sixty to two

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Speaker 7: two ninety, Yeah, two and two ninety. That could play down,

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Speaker 7: and I feel confident about them being able to hold

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Speaker 7: their own, but also they need to be quick enough

483
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Speaker 7: and explose them enough where I stand them up.

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Speaker 4: And I still feel like they can get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: So I'm saying, like that body type around there, that

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Speaker 7: two sixty to two ninety, that's what I'm looking at

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Speaker 7: them most likely acquiring in addition to getting one more

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Speaker 7: really big fella up front.

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Speaker 3: Can I give you a draft watch for me? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just for those reasons. Keldric Folk out of Auburn kind

491
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Speaker 3: of fits that mold six six two eighty right around there.

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Speaker 6: And Tommy wrote about him on Dusko was dot com.

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Speaker 3: Back and then I mentioned TJ. Parker, he's more four

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Speaker 3: to seventy ish. I can't I don't have the draft

495
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Speaker 3: numbers in front of me, but just off the top,

496
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Speaker 3: I like this, he's right around there.

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Speaker 4: I like six four to sixty six.

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Speaker 7: The reason why it's passing lanes, yeah, right, being able

499
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Speaker 7: to knock the ball down when you're going to three four,

500
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Speaker 7: especially those guys getting down, they're gonna kind of pinch down.

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Speaker 7: The quarterback's gonna want to get the ball out of

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Speaker 7: their hands. You've got six six long arms. You're reaching

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Speaker 7: up ten feet in the air.

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Speaker 6: Right If you're not getting past that lineman, at least

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Speaker 6: you have the link to interrupt.

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Speaker 3: Another guy like that, denied Dennis Sutton out of Penn State,

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Speaker 3: six foot five, two seventy. He may be a guy

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Speaker 3: that's not necessarily twelve or twenty, but maybe he slips

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Speaker 3: a little bit. I've got a second round grade on him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he slips into the third. We'll see. But those

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Speaker 3: are three guys that I think fit that bill early

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Speaker 3: in the draft that you can kind of maneuver back

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 8: Uh uh hi, guys, thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 8: my call. Uh happy Saint Patrick's day. Uh uh all right, thanks?

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Speaker 8: Uh uh guys. First of all, I want to say.

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Speaker 3: Uh uh uh.

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Speaker 8: Uh uh I absolutely, I absolutely love the fact uh

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Speaker 8: that we hired Christian Parker to be our new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 7: Uh uh.

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Speaker 8: Please excuse me because I know it's too early to tell, uh,

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Speaker 8: but I for one believe he's gonna do a great

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Speaker 8: uh uh uh uh uh uh uh a job for us.

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Speaker 8: Uh just out of curiosity? Who uh who uh? Who

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Speaker 8: do you believe? Which player do you believe will benefit

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Speaker 8: most from Christian parkers hiring? And before I go, I

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Speaker 8: just want to say, let's do what the two thousand

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Speaker 8: and nine to Super Bowl champions because it's time for

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Speaker 8: us to win a Super Bowl. Go cowboys. Take care. Thanksful,

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Speaker 8: impatient with me. I have a great week and one month.

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Speaker 8: One more thing. I love you guys, by appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We love you too. That's awesome. Thanks Nebby for the

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Speaker 3: call as always and always knows ball.

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Speaker 5: You know, for a long time I really thought Neavy

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Speaker 5: new ball, but he just brought up the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 5: winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: On hock the heck, man, you just want to make you angry.

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Speaker 6: What are you doing to.

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Speaker 3: Light a fire? Yeah, that's what he's trying to do.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to light a fire a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Got me, mad man.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to say, hey, seven and nine to a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl as.

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Speaker 4: Possible, we can't avoid the fact that we do have

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Speaker 4: one of their coaches.

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Speaker 3: If we did take one of those guys.

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Speaker 6: He's cowboy, that's all.

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Speaker 7: Whatever he did before this could care less, just sketching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't even care. He wears the right colors. Now,

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Speaker 3: all right, let's answer his question. I don't have it. Wow,

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Speaker 3: will you pinched the back of my hand if you

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Speaker 3: want to go? Thanks dude. The uh Yeah. When it

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Speaker 3: comes to Christian Parker's higher who does it benefit the most?

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Speaker 3: That was his question.

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Speaker 4: Initially, like my answer, you'all don't think I'm crazy.

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Speaker 3: I already think you're crazy.

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Speaker 6: So the question was which current like free free agency?

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Speaker 3: Okay, got it, yeah, like which returning Cowboys are going

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Speaker 3: to benefit the most? Good, Sam Williams, I agree with

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Speaker 3: you actually, so I don't think you're that crazy.

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Speaker 4: I like my answer. I know, I know.

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Speaker 7: Sam Williams has not been what people have wanted him

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Speaker 7: to be. He has not been consistent contributor on defense.

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Speaker 7: He has hurt the team with penalties. He's been a

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Speaker 7: reliable special teamer. We can't dispute that whatsoever. But Sam

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Speaker 7: williams body type and playing style did not fit a

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Speaker 7: four down scheme.

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Speaker 3: It just did it. It just never did. They tried

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Speaker 3: to bowld them into that and it never really worked out.

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Speaker 3: He's not explosive enough to be a true defensive end.

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Speaker 3: He's not big enough to be you know saying to

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Speaker 3: be your your down lineman per se. So three four

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Speaker 3: fits him perfect.

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Speaker 7: He is a downhill head butt you in the face

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Speaker 7: type of guy, and he has long arms. He can

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Speaker 7: set the edge, he can run stop like that's that's

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Speaker 7: his style. He wants to go downhill he doesn't want

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Speaker 7: to have to think and try to, you know, run

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Speaker 7: around like let him go. And I think that Sam Williams,

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Speaker 7: Tyros Wheat, those those guys that body style, they're playing type,

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Speaker 7: those guys are going to benefit a lot. So I

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Speaker 7: know they're not the big names that everybody is looking

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Speaker 7: for right now, but in terms of what they do

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Speaker 7: well and what fits them best, this is the best

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Speaker 7: situation that they could possibly be in, and I think

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Speaker 7: they're going to be the benefactors of this. Christian Parker

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Speaker 7: three four base defense.

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Speaker 3: We didn't even talk about the Tyros Whet signing after

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Speaker 3: he spent last year with Detroit. That's your guy back.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to see him obviously.

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Speaker 7: Again, we talked about winn this three four when when

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Speaker 7: Christian Parker was coming over him switching over to three four.

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Speaker 7: What does that do to your roster? And I mentioned

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Speaker 7: multiple times your roster has to change in terms of

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Speaker 7: your personal your personnel.

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Speaker 4: Body types.

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Speaker 7: You're gonna start seeing a lot of more two under

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00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 7: sixty two undred and seventy pound guys on this roster defensively,

662
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 7: and your special teams will benefit from it as well.

663
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 7: And I think Wheat and Sam Williams or those are

664
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Speaker 7: both going to be huge contributors for you on special teams.

665
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 7: But also they're guys that you feel comfortable being able

666
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 7: to say, hey, go out there, stand up, and any

667
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 7: tight end that tries to block you, run them into

668
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 7: the lap of a quarterback right. Any tackle that tries

669
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 7: to come out, you just hold them in place. So

670
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Speaker 7: I feel good about those guys and what they bring

671
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 7: to this team. They're relentless guys there that you don't

672
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 7: have to be questioning about their effort. There are guys

673
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 7: that you can give one task to and say, hey,

674
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Speaker 7: go strong arm this dude and just push them back,

675
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 7: and you feel comfortable about that, and you're okay with

676
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 7: that just being their contributions in this defensive scheme.

677
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna cheat a little bit because this guy was

678
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 5: given a disservice last year. I don't think he played

679
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 5: very healthy. I think he had a rough go at it.

680
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 5: But obviously, you know, any improvement over that will be

681
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 5: good for him. Some of them, rebel, I think obviously,

682
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 5: going from last year to this year, he's going to

683
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 5: have a full off season under his belt. I think

684
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 5: the fact well TV's went off, that's all right, we're

685
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: moving along, uh Civione Rebel under Christian Parker under new

686
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 5: Right Cornerbacks coach Ryan Smith secondary coach.

687
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Speaker 6: Rather, I think that's going to be a huge.

688
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: Improvement for him, and anything above his production last year

689
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: will be better obviously for him. Like I said, it's

690
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 5: sort of a cheat code, but I think he's gonna

691
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: be considerably better than he was last year.

692
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Speaker 3: I like it. Paul in New York City, you were

693
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: on Cowboys? What's going on, Paul, I'm not.

694
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 12: With New York City of close to the Syracuse for drum area.

695
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So I just got Paul in New York

696
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: on my on line, So I just assume that's on me,

697
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: not upstate. My bad.

698
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're good, said not to see Patrick

699
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 12: Mosey Walker. But hey, guys, how are you guys doing?

700
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're doing all right?

701
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm doing good. So we got Rashaan Gary, which

702
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 12: I'm excited about. But he's what two seventy seven we

703
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 12: were saying. So I have a question about a guy

704
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 12: that we traded with OSA, because you've talked about in

705
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 12: the two ninety range as the high end. Did they

706
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 12: not think he could stand up on the outside, kind

707
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 12: of like Gary, He's not much different on the bill

708
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 12: other than being a tackle. Was that something that they

709
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 12: were looking at also with Parker? I think the best

710
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 12: is going to be the secondary is going to get

711
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 12: the biggest benefit. Blaine might get back to what he's doing.

712
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 12: I think he will help revel. That's all I got today.

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Speaker 12: I just wanted to say hi everyone, Thanks.

714
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Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate you. Paul, appreciate the call from up

715
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: there in the Syracuse A.

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Speaker 5: I think it would be silly to think that Ohso

717
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 5: couldn't contribute in this defense, even under Christian Parker. I

718
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: think the thing that really hampered him was the money.

719
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 5: The fact that he's that hit that he was going

720
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Speaker 5: to have this year. I think it was too much

721
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 5: for the Cowboys blood to account for this year while

722
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 5: also trying to improve several aspects of your defense. I

723
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 5: think they got what they thought was the most they

724
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: could get out of him as far in terms of

725
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: a trade, which helped them and has them.

726
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 6: Currently under the cap. So I think that's mainly it.

727
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 5: I think it was a business decision, which is unfortunate

728
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 5: because you want a guy like Osa on your team.

729
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 7: Ye.

730
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was entirely a business decision, because you know,

731
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: they they really had a tough time moving on. I

732
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: think from Osa just in having conversations around the building.

733
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: They loved though. So he was a leader in the

734
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: locker room, somebody that was willing to do whatever he

735
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: was asked, right, yeah, whenever it came to making this

736
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Speaker 3: team successful.

737
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Speaker 6: Ultimate character guy.

738
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Speaker 3: Was he a perfect fit in a three four No,

739
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: but you're gonna play multiple He would have had places

740
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: to be successful even if it was in a two

741
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 3: down scenario, and even if it was in spare time.

742
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: But for that cap hit for a rotational defensive lineman,

743
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 5: it's just didn't.

744
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 3: Cap hit number two. And it makes sense for twenty

745
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 3: seven and twenty eight. That's really where the money helps,

746
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: cause you actually kind of take a borderline. It's a

747
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: sixty year right yeah. I think it's like plus four

748
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: of what it would have been in like plus twelve

749
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: over the the term of the contract. But you get

750
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: that all up front, and then the twenty seven and

751
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: twenty eight seasons you're off the books entirely, and so

752
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: that helps you a ton over the next two years

753
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: when you're trying to continue this window and build into

754
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: the future. But then also Osa, it was the contract,

755
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: it was the scheme fit and the body type, and

756
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: it just kind of where he was. But oh, in

757
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: the value. The value was the third element there of

758
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: where San Francisco comes in and says, we're gonna give

759
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: you a top one hundred pick.

760
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Speaker 6: That's that's hard when you didn't have a Day two

761
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Speaker 6: pick at all.

762
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Speaker 3: Now that's a lot of value there. Did you think

763
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: Osa could have fit in the system.

764
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so Osa could fit in any system.

765
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Speaker 7: That's the thing about Osa. I outside of the fact

766
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 7: that he's a great human, great leader, drinks a lot

767
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 7: of water too. I'm gonna miss seeing that big water jug,

768
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 7: you know, walking out the locker room. Just always was

769
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 7: willing to do stuff with the media. It's nothing, but

770
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 7: I mean, he was a great dude. But I hate

771
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 7: to see him. I hate see him leave, man. But

772
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 7: I understand it from the business perspective. But in terms

773
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 7: of he could do, Osa could play in any system

774
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 7: whatever you ask Olso he's going to contribute. He's strong,

775
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 7: he's physical, he's explosive, all the things. There's not a

776
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 7: box that he doesn't really check for you. So good

777
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 7: luck to him and his contributions that he'll make to

778
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 7: San Francisco. But he was just too expensive for what

779
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 7: they were going to be asking him to do here

780
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 7: in Dallas this year. And what you can replace him with.

781
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 7: You can get multiple guys for what you're going to

782
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 7: be paying him this year.

783
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's take our second break. When we

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Speaker 3: because I'm going to revisit this at the end of

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Speaker 4: Was not fair freaking no season.

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Speaker 3: I know I want to get it. I I'll ask

844
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Speaker 3: him about it, and honestly, I know he's listening. If

845
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: you want to text it in no see, you could

846
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: totally text it do it. He also said that he

847
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: will allow the story that I showed at the beginning

848
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Speaker 3: of the episode.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

850
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: But this is rating each football move that the Cowboys

851
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: have made so far, Okay, and we're gonna do it

852
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: pretty quickly here one through ten. One being this is

853
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: like a super Bowl caliber move. This is the most

854
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: incredible move you've made all off season. So if you

855
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: believe there's one of those, then go ahead and say.

856
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 3: If you don't believe there's one of those, then don't

857
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Speaker 3: say it.

858
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 6: He said one is the super Bowl move.

859
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: I didn't right here on the text message says ten

860
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: equals super Bowl caliber.

861
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 6: I thought you just said one super Bowl Okay.

862
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: Sorry, ten is super Bowl caliber. If I said it

863
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: the wrong, yeah, then that's what I uh. Ten is

864
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: a super Bowl caliber move. One is the team is

865
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: worse now because of this move, So got it right.

866
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: Around five means you're steady right. Yeah, So anything five

867
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: and above is a good move. Anything five and below

868
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Speaker 3: probably not. Let's start with the big ones that happened

869
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: even prior to free agency opening. Javonte Williams being signed

870
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Speaker 3: with Dallas. Where does that ring?

871
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 6: Oh that's an eight?

872
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's an eight.

873
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I give it a seven.

874
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: Seven, Okay. I think I'll probably right there.

875
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: It's a lot of money obviously tied into his contract,

876
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: but I mean, he was an excellent contributor to your

877
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: team last year and you he wants you have him

878
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 5: as the backbone of your run game obviously.

879
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, oh yeah, absolutely think and if you're in

880
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: the chat to go ahead and give your.

881
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: The contract is reasonable although big, I mean I think

882
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: it's a reasonable tag for what.

883
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: Now that we're seeing what some of these running backs

884
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: are getting to, I think you actually kind of got

885
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: it for a steal.

886
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, some of these hometown discount a.

887
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: Little bit, Yeah, a little bit, all right. George Pickens

888
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: being placed on the franchise tag. It's kind of a

889
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: tough one. Uh.

890
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 5: Four, Yeah, I mean it's it's necessary, so I'm fine

891
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: with it.

892
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 8: Five.

893
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: You kind of got to see where it goes.

894
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: It was gonna happen.

895
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, four gone conclusion.

896
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 6: Ten would be signing him.

897
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: But okay, I like that. Where would it be if

898
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: he if they do sign him for you?

899
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: Eight?

900
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: Eight? Pretty high move, uh, Brandon Aubrey second round tender.

901
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: I'll give it an eight.

902
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just to keep him around.

903
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he I mean nobody's offered anything yet, right.

904
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know if anybody will.

905
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: Well, fair Burn only got six point five exactly, and

906
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, that's a really good strategic move by

907
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 5: the Cowboys.

908
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 4: Great move by the Cowboy.

909
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, give it an eight.

910
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he lost, well, that was kind of that.

911
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 6: If you wanted ten, which reports yourself.

912
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think they want to he one t

913
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he asked for Tim would also want

914
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: to Yeah there Tim, Tim would be nice? Uh. TJ

915
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: Bass second round tender? Five?

916
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 6: Okay, TJ. Bass? Yeah, they clearly don't want to lose him.

917
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 6: I'd go five.

918
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at to all right, this is where

919
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: it starts getting juicy. Rashaan Gary trade for a fourth

920
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: round pick in comparison to the previous fourth round pick trades.

921
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: I will give this a seven point five.

922
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 5: Okay, I'd give this an eight because of the pay

923
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 5: cut that he agreed to as well. If you incorporate

924
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 5: that into the move, I'd say that's an eight.

925
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: Two years, thirty two million, sixteen on average per year. Yep,

926
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: sounds pretty good to me. The boy solid edge rusher. Yeah, yeah,

927
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a I'll give it a nay.

928
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: I think he's a good player, and we talked about

929
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: this already. He gives you something better than what you

930
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: had on defense last year in terms of rushing the passers.

931
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: And he gives you versatility from a down lineman, a

932
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: stand up lineman, whatever you wanted to use him as

933
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 3: at outside linebacker rather, he gives you opportunities there. Sam

934
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: Williams being re signed for.

935
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 6: Dallas, so three point five.

936
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a six. I think I'm thinking six too.

937
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: But I also agreed with Isaiah in the fact that

938
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: I think he's better in the system. Yeah, and I

939
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: think he benefits from Christian Parker here.

940
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 6: I think I'll just need to see that.

941
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: I get it. And I could see fans in the

942
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: chat probably saying one one negative six. There's there's probably

943
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: gonna be some growing pains there, but he's back for

944
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: one year. It's on a low end deal. If he

945
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: makes any sort of impact, then I think it's a

946
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 3: cherry on top.

947
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: You'll surprise us.

948
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson signing with Dallas.

949
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 6: Oh.

950
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 5: I love that move for me currently as we sit here.

951
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: Give me an eight because of the player, the value

952
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: of the position, and then I also think that the

953
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 5: coaches are going to benefit from a guy that already

954
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: knows the system. He worked with Ryan Smith, working with

955
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: Christian Parker, I think is going to be beneficial to him.

956
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: I think for the price that you got him for. Honestly,

957
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 5: that's a that's an aim move for me.

958
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: Give it eight.

959
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 6: Eight.

960
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: This is my favorite move of the off season so far,

961
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: so I'm going to give it a nine.

962
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 8: Oh.

963
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 3: I want to step away from not there, but I

964
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: love the fit for Jalen Thompson. I think he could

965
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: be a star here if if it all goes well

966
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: and if he stays healthy.

967
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 6: Like those words Kyle Noseball PJ.

968
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 3: Locke Safety signing with Dallas.

969
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 4: Seven. You like it seven?

970
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: Okay, so you like him as another guy.

971
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 6: It's a practical movie you're gonna start for you?

972
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 4: Do you think starting is so light? Subjective. Okay, I

973
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: think this is going to depend on who we're playing.

974
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: Good point.

975
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 5: I think it's a very practical move. I think your

976
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 5: safety room is obviously better than it was last year.

977
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 5: But I think he's kind of an average player from

978
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 5: what I'm seeing so far.

979
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: I'd say five.

980
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: I'd give it a six. Same kind of thing, like,

981
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: you're better than what you were. It gives you options,

982
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: and you're better than.

983
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 6: What you are, certainly less bad.

984
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: That helps Tito.

985
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 5: Again, another depth piece in the depth behind Quinn and

986
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: Kenny Clark. You lost three contributors there, and it's more

987
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: of a fit scheme because of those guys. But you know,

988
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 5: half a sack on his career, forty four solo tackles

989
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: one year, three million dollars.

990
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 6: I'd say five, yeah, yeah, give me a six.

991
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: Five, Yeah, I'm in a five, Sam Howe, oh quarterback.

992
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: Give me a eight.

993
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: You like it that much?

994
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow, I like it a lot.

995
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 7: I don't think people understand if you if you were

996
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 7: to lose deck, you were in a bath, you were

997
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 7: in a bad spot.

998
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, Like I don't think people have no chances.

999
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: Like you really no disrespect to it.

1000
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 7: Milton hopefully he's gotten a lot better so far during

1001
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 7: this this off period.

1002
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: We just haven't seen it.

1003
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 6: But now we get to find out.

1004
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, but now you get to find out. And you know,

1005
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 7: Sam Howe is a dog like Sam How's a dolt.

1006
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 7: He's not a freaking he's not a you know, world beater,

1007
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 7: but he is somebody. You put him in a game,

1008
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 7: you got a chance. In my eyes, you got a

1009
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 7: freaking chance. It's gonna be fun.

1010
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Whenever we get into our production meetings for the preseason,

1011
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna be sick. They're at a table at some

1012
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Marriotte wherever we are getting ready for a preseason broadcast.

1013
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: And when we're gonna turn to no Marriott's where their

1014
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: partner don't worry, Okay, the the where we we turned

1015
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: to Isaiah and like, what do you want to talk

1016
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: about in the open? Isaiah? And Isaiah is gonna be

1017
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: like this quarterback to battle. This is what we want

1018
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: to see samal versus versus Joe Milton can't wait all.

1019
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 6: At the moon.

1020
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna use that on the broadcast.

1021
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: Now, I'm still.

1022
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: Uh Tyrus Wheat signing with the team.

1023
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: That's good, good value.

1024
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: Give me a six point five I'll say seven.

1025
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 6: It's a six.

1026
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: Okay. Matt Hennessy signing with the team.

1027
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 6: I actually like that move.

1028
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 5: Like you said, he's very versatilelignment, and if you're losing

1029
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: brock Hoffman, that's a good real placement for that.

1030
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, give me six six.

1031
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: I would have been Okay, what Hoffman, So give me

1032
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: a five?

1033
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah Hoffman.

1034
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know who costs you

1035
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 4: more money.

1036
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably Hoffman. Honestly, with that deal, I would I

1037
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: would give me a five with Hennessy. I don't think

1038
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: it moves the needle a ton for me.

1039
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 5: I also really hope Rob Jones gets another shot because

1040
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: he had an injury last year.

1041
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 6: I early want to see that injury.

1042
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: I want to call good. Call Kobe Durant signing at

1043
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: the cornerback spot.

1044
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 4: Good.

1045
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 6: Uh, really good.

1046
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 5: I'd say seven point five and give me any value

1047
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: of the player and the ceiling that he has.

1048
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 4: Give me a yeah, some point, give me a seven

1049
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: point six, seven eight.

1050
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: Okay, and then Princeton Fant returning at the time.

1051
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I love Prist. Yeah, that's your guy, that's my guy.

1052
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 8: Love.

1053
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 7: I think he's so underutilized, man, Yeah, give me a

1054
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 7: give me a six point five.

1055
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: Okay, six seven, actually six six okay, not a six

1056
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: seven six. The the reason I even bring up this

1057
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: conversation is what would be a ten from here on that?

1058
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 3: There doesn't have to be a specific name out there, okay,

1059
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: but you could make a move, Let's say George Pickens,

1060
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: the move that happened last year, a trade, whatever may be.

1061
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: What do you have to get in order to forward

1062
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: to be a ten? Can it be a position group?

1063
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: It can be whatever you think? There's no more ten signings,

1064
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: I don't think. But to make a move this, to.

1065
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 7: Make a trade, it would have to be a beast

1066
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 7: of a receiver or a beast of a of a corner.

1067
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: For me, well, I think Jalen waddles on the trade block, right,

1068
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: you're going, oh yeah, you going, what happened where.

1069
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: He is in Denver?

1070
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: Now?

1071
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 4: Freaking freak.

1072
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: I wonder if I wonder if the front office's ears

1073
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 5: perk up when they see Jaillen Wall go for a

1074
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: first and it.

1075
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: Was late, it was a thirtieth overall, a in an

1076
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: early fourth.

1077
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then a third pick swap right, yeah, something

1078
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: like that.

1079
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 6: To wonder if they're like.

1080
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 7: I mean, if you, I mean adding, obviously, we hope not.

1081
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 7: Obviously you don't need it here. But if you were

1082
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 7: to do that, then I mean, you're pretty much making

1083
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 7: your offense, you know, invincible.

1084
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: Mmm. Yeah, but you got to find a way to

1085
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: retain one of your guys already.

1086
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 4: Oh for sure.

1087
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 7: No, I'm That's what I'm saying that that's not a

1088
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 7: reality for Dallas, but I'm saying like it would require

1089
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 7: a move like that, like I'm sure didn't for fans

1090
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 7: are like, oh crap, heck, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1091
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 7: we're not sitting here expecting that to happen, but if

1092
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 7: it did, we'd be like, oh, yeah, let's go.

1093
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: Man. Miami's got a couple first round picks that they

1094
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: could spend, and they need a wide receiver. Now maybe

1095
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: maybe they'd be willing.

1096
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 7: There's still a couple of d ns out there that

1097
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 7: I think are on the trading block or you know,

1098
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 7: even our in free agency that you would still be like.

1099
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: That's a nice edition.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: Talking about Posa, I'm talking about linebacker, Buddy. I need

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Speaker 3: a linebacker too, dude, I need a badass linebacker. Oh real,

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Speaker 3: And that would be my that would be my ten

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Speaker 3: or both could happen. I both would be great. I'm

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Speaker 3: cool with both. I'm all good with yof yeah, both

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Speaker 3: of them, both.

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Speaker 4: Both of them.

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Speaker 3: All right? That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Hope you had fun with us over the last time

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Speaker 3: idy minutes, did you have? Yeah? Are you back next week?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Oh good, Thank goodness. You scared me for a SEO

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Speaker 3: the week after.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the naturally me and Kylin. It wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be great podcast that right now.

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Speaker 3: I'd be rough, all right. That doesn't for us. For

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Speaker 3: Josh Rudery, Yeah for Isaiah standback for Chris Beam in

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Speaker 3: the back of Kyle Yeomans saying so long from Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week.

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