WEBVTT - Infinity Song: Live From Tribeca Festival

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. It's my firm belief that our culture doesn't put

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<v Speaker 1>enough stock in family bands. I mean, just think about

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<v Speaker 1>the groups that include siblings, Sliing the Family Stone, the

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<v Speaker 1>Beach Boys, the Beeg's, hiam Oasis, ac DC, the Jacksons.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense that Ken would develop uniquely powerful musical chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, a love of music usually does start in

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<v Speaker 1>the home, and the same is true of our guests today, Momo,

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham Angel and Israel Boyd of the group Infinity Saw.

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<v Speaker 1>The four siblings were raised in musical households between Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>and New York, honing their sound wherever they could, in

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<v Speaker 1>churches and parks, subway stations, even around the kitchen table.

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<v Speaker 1>That devotion to performing carried them to bigger stages, guided

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<v Speaker 1>by their father and manager, John Boyd, and eventually jay

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<v Speaker 1>Z's rock Nation and their fervent love of me music

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<v Speaker 1>fuels their unmistakable blend of R and B and folk,

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<v Speaker 1>a mix they proudly described as modern day soft rock.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to the Boyd's siblings at the Tribeca Festival

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<v Speaker 1>in New York for a live Broken Record event. We

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<v Speaker 1>discussed the role of music and their family, how their

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<v Speaker 1>Dad came through in the clutch during a make or

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<v Speaker 1>Break meeting with jay Z and graciously they performed a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of songs from their album Metamorphosis Complete. This is

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<v Speaker 1>broken record, real musicians, real conversations. Infinity Song opened our

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with the performance of their song Lotus. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>great to be here with you guys, and to be

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<v Speaker 1>here with Infinity Song at Tribeca Festival of all places.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a storied festival, and I think we're here tonight

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<v Speaker 1>with talent that will be held in that regard. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a new group and they are already have such

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<v Speaker 1>incredible music as you'll see tonight their live show and

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<v Speaker 1>this is stripped down is phenomenal. So without further Ado Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>Angel Abraham and Momo Infinity Song.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything short off th yards say the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to you, cans me. You're a love honest flower.

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<v Speaker 3>You may be.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything nassy and last long.

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<v Speaker 5>Again and ye now I know the wonderful love.

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<v Speaker 3>And please don't make me want to again.

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<v Speaker 5>The appliance is less. Just send me for for because

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<v Speaker 5>now it's take the love to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Since you don't get for love, settle for.

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<v Speaker 5>We could let you because I still go.

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<v Speaker 3>Your alone, Flory.

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<v Speaker 5>May weed.

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<v Speaker 6>Everything last see and last still long.

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<v Speaker 5>And now how know ware the food.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe please don't make me laugh again, MANSI.

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<v Speaker 5>Place, just let me fall for because I would take

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<v Speaker 5>a lot to sais.

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<v Speaker 4>Toever I lose myself to love. Then last year, I's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you're love, it's just a lie.

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<v Speaker 7>If it's telling me lies.

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<v Speaker 3>But not let live to me just a crag me

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<v Speaker 3>dona not tell him as now I know, beautiful baby, Please.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't make me wise.

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<v Speaker 3>Man spends some awful because you would say the love

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<v Speaker 3>seems since my aness, I would say the scious less.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let me all, because I would say.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you so much, thank you, thank youes and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 8>Once again we are infinity song. My name is Abraham,

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<v Speaker 8>my name is Momo.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, I'm angel and I'm in Drew and we've got

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<v Speaker 9>one more song for you before we get into the evening.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>Now here you go again.

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<v Speaker 11>You say you want your freeedom, Well, well, my gi me,

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<v Speaker 11>it's trying to ride.

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<v Speaker 5>You should play away your feeling.

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<v Speaker 12>But listen carefully to that sounds a long meess, like.

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<v Speaker 7>A harpy jassy man.

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<v Speaker 5>Still song never not all want to tell you now

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<v Speaker 5>as you all know, pray enough place they say A

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<v Speaker 5>little man, welcome man when watches you thing you know? No,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll go again see the crystal leave.

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<v Speaker 6>I came up vi first want.

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<v Speaker 13>It's only me who wants you Apparon your dream.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you an your dreams?

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<v Speaker 6>You like to sell loneliness like.

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<v Speaker 14>The Holy Giving in the stool and star remembering, watch

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<v Speaker 14>and watch Lounlogynagy.

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<v Speaker 5>Wonders mistress when last.

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<v Speaker 7>And say, well, man go mad in.

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<v Speaker 4>Clean you.

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<v Speaker 5>Watch, Let you know, let you know.

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<v Speaker 15>Lest too much.

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<v Speaker 5>Names mus be racy, let's to much you.

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<v Speaker 15>Want?

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want? You listen at mess too.

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<v Speaker 3>Small Spot sweet team to Scott Spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, through this job, I've been privileged to

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<v Speaker 1>be around a lot of performers. Baby Face comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind seeing him perform up close and personal. Neil Young, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is my first time getting a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys, and just getting to see the love

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<v Speaker 1>of music that you guys have and the passion you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have for performing. It warms my heart because it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I see a lot in an older generation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't always see the love of performance, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see I don't always see that passion flowing

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<v Speaker 1>through people. When you guys perform, it's evident that there

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<v Speaker 1>was probably nothing else you guys could have done, but

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<v Speaker 1>be musicians. Do you feel like there's anything else you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can I mean, this seems like what you were

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<v Speaker 1>born to do.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I guess that's a loaded question in the sense. Well,

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<v Speaker 9>first of all, thank you for having us. We've had

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<v Speaker 9>many conversations since being here, but this is for you guys,

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<v Speaker 9>So thank you justin for having us. We are so

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<v Speaker 9>appreciative have the privilege of this conversation. So our parents

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<v Speaker 9>raised us, I think, to be able to do anything.

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<v Speaker 9>That was a mindset in our family. But so they

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<v Speaker 9>raised us to pursue excellence and to pursue being well

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<v Speaker 9>rounded people with integrity and character.

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<v Speaker 10>But music was the.

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<v Speaker 9>Tool that was used to develop that in us. So

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<v Speaker 9>I probably couldn't be anything but a singer only by choice.

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<v Speaker 9>I could be more, but it's it just wouldn't work

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<v Speaker 9>for me. But that everybody has their own answer.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I would say performance is definitely like one of

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<v Speaker 16>the loves of our lives.

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<v Speaker 17>We've been performing for so long. It's really funny.

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<v Speaker 16>Some people who have seen us perform more than once

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<v Speaker 16>know that usually on dreams we actually come back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I ruin it? Did I come up too soon?

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<v Speaker 17>We should have warned you.

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<v Speaker 5>I should have come earlier in.

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<v Speaker 1>The week and got to the blue note.

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<v Speaker 5>I messed up.

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<v Speaker 17>So we do like we fake end it, you know,

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<v Speaker 17>built the tension, and then we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, let me go walk off this day. I failed already.

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<v Speaker 1>I have failed everyone here. I have failed you, guys, myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she just wanted to say that, Yeah, that's what.

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<v Speaker 16>Okay, you know, if you still want us to come

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<v Speaker 16>back and we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring it back, bring it back, bring it back.

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<v Speaker 17>So serious, I want it to come back in.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't go no, no, no, you gotta no. This is

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<v Speaker 10>a part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's you know, you know, cities, the.

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<v Speaker 7>Watching, the watch, the watching, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Us cher, the house, the lot, hot y log house,

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<v Speaker 3>the fine fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Fine, spe.

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<v Speaker 4>Berg, spurge, urgie, scrge.

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<v Speaker 13>Thunder bad, when it's raining, play.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, let's say weapon they will come and then well go.

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<v Speaker 5>Sh shoes clean.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, okay, so now we have been anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's back to the qu not all the hold though

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<v Speaker 1>that was worth the public shaming.

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<v Speaker 17>All right, that was wonderful, just public informant.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a wonderful PSA. I am so glad you

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<v Speaker 1>brought that to my attention. Yes, but back to the court.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, there's no way you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>born to do this. Did you hear that? Unbelievable but

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<v Speaker 1>loaded question, leading question? You guys probably have your own thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean obviously there's like you can get into a

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<v Speaker 18>lot of philosophy and all that, but I would say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 18>we were you know, we were born to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>This cover of Dreams is beautiful, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that would have been not even that long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been shocking to see, you know, four

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<v Speaker 1>black siblings just killing Dreams by Fleetwood Mac. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like because that's in the territory of classic rock, and.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, there's so much that could be said.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it really isn't novelty to us on that

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<v Speaker 9>On that side, it's it's real and it's organic to us.

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<v Speaker 9>It's music that we enjoy and most importantly, it's music

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<v Speaker 9>that we can all come together around. A song is

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<v Speaker 9>a song, and a song sure, different cultures contribute songs

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<v Speaker 9>to the world, and your different cultures contribute perspectives to

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<v Speaker 9>the world, but once it leaves and it's released to

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<v Speaker 9>the world, it belongs to the world, quite frankly, and

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<v Speaker 9>so you know, unless you're gonna block the dissemination of the.

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<v Speaker 10>Creative, Like I like that song, I want to sing it.

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<v Speaker 9>That's that's what it is super cool about music, and

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<v Speaker 9>we're starting to see it, you know, boundaries and different

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<v Speaker 9>cultural and ethnic backgrounds, the way hip hop really got

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<v Speaker 9>like the biggest consumers of say hip hop suddenly or

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<v Speaker 9>not or not who created hip hop or not.

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<v Speaker 10>It's just changed the way that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ship Like blue happened to blues music and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, suddenly it's for the world, yes, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 9>of nice. Yeah, it's a really beautiful way of putting

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<v Speaker 9>it that music and music is for the world. And

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<v Speaker 9>that was the for so many years, the issue with

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<v Speaker 9>putting music in a in a genre and essentially in

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<v Speaker 9>a box and done by a marketing team to market

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<v Speaker 9>to certain audit you know, and it's like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it don't even matter, It doesn't matter what Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>likes the same stuff. Everyone likes the same stuff, who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like Dolly part who doesn't like Beyonce, who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like Whitney.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, it's like, come on, yeah, okay, yes I will.

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<v Speaker 17>Music is for the world. Music is great, but.

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<v Speaker 16>There's still very much an ongoing conversation about genre and

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<v Speaker 16>about who's allowed to sing this genre or that genre.

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<v Speaker 16>I think specifically, I think Cowboy Carter is a great

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<v Speaker 16>example of you know, a woman who grew up in

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<v Speaker 16>Texas who really identifies with country roots and has so much,

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<v Speaker 16>so much, so much, so much to say in this sphere,

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<v Speaker 16>but then wasn't necessarily embraced, you know, because she hasn't

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<v Speaker 16>been doing that like full out for years.

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<v Speaker 17>And you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>To be clear.

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<v Speaker 9>I think genre is valuable, and I think building a

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<v Speaker 9>culture is valuable. So I don't really have too crazy

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<v Speaker 9>of a problem with gatekeeping a culture, because if you

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<v Speaker 9>build a culture and it becomes potent and important to

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<v Speaker 9>the world, I think you can be protective of it.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the challenge is, and my thinking is, let's

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<v Speaker 9>not be controversial this conversation. I think the challenge is

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<v Speaker 9>that it's not equal, meaning the guardianship of genres is

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<v Speaker 9>not equal, of course, and the beneficiaries of genres are

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<v Speaker 9>not I don't want to go to right, you're right.

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<v Speaker 16>But one thing I will say is that specifically, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>America is a very.

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<v Speaker 17>Particular place.

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<v Speaker 1>You are so politic, let's wrap it up, okay, But.

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<v Speaker 16>But a lot of the genres, the roots of them,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, these genres did not just pop up out

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<v Speaker 16>of nowhere in the last fifty years, you know. And

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<v Speaker 16>then I think where the problem lies is when people

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<v Speaker 16>forget or they're not educated, and they and and by

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<v Speaker 16>the way, it's not only like if we're talking strictly

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<v Speaker 16>white and black. It's not only white people who will

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<v Speaker 16>look at us or you know, someone black and say like, oh,

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<v Speaker 16>you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 17>Be doing country, you shouldn't been doing rock.

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<v Speaker 16>A lot of times we'll say that to ourselves, not us,

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<v Speaker 16>but you know, black people will say that to ourselves

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<v Speaker 16>because there just is like a lack of education on

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<v Speaker 16>just how the foundation of these genres came to be,

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<v Speaker 16>you know. And so I think overall, we just don't

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<v Speaker 16>know the history of things, which is why Cowboy Carter

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<v Speaker 16>is so cool because now we're getting into the nitty gritty.

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<v Speaker 16>Now we're saying, now we're seeing like with the backlash.

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<v Speaker 16>It forces all of us to study, to read, to

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<v Speaker 16>learn to look past the past like twenty five fifty

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<v Speaker 16>years and look really look into like the origins of

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<v Speaker 16>these things, right, and then so it then opens up

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<v Speaker 16>the conversation for all of us to feel at home

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<v Speaker 16>here instead of it being like one person, one group

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<v Speaker 16>of people, it's like, no, the evolution of this genre.

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<v Speaker 17>Was actually very integrated.

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<v Speaker 16>It's a lot of people coming together and just trying

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<v Speaker 16>to make something good, you know. And so when you

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<v Speaker 16>kind of are forced to look back into the history

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<v Speaker 16>of things, I think that's when change is made and

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<v Speaker 16>you know, we can move forward because because if we're

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<v Speaker 16>if we're listening to like, okay, granted I'm twenty six,

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<v Speaker 16>but if we're listening to twenty year olds, they're only

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<v Speaker 16>gonna know what's you know, what's been put in front

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<v Speaker 16>of their face over the past like ten fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 16>if they haven't actively gone and looked and studied. So

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<v Speaker 16>we've got to really and the people who are leading

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<v Speaker 16>the conversations a lot of times on the internet are

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<v Speaker 16>twenty year olds.

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<v Speaker 17>So yes, you know, so it's just very very very

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<v Speaker 17>you know, it's very layered.

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<v Speaker 1>Naturally, that's why a group like you guys is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so beautiful, you know. And I grew up playing guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like it was like, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a rock band. You know, people be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what the I'm like, well, yeah, I like I like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I saw Hendrix. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be I groom my hair out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be Hendrix. You know, I didn't turn

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<v Speaker 1>out to be Hendrix. You're closer to him than me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real. But you know, it's like there's there really

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be limitations put on us again not to get

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<v Speaker 1>we can move out of the controversial as.

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<v Speaker 10>It shouldn't be that controversial.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think it's a it's a it's like a

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<v Speaker 9>minefield because one of these sidebars you could really say

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<v Speaker 9>something crazy.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what I asked.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys met Beyonce?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, we have. We didn't sign an NDA, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>we can talk about it a few times, just casually, casually.

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<v Speaker 10>There's no such things. No, there's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 10>meeting Beyonce casually.

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<v Speaker 16>I just mean it wasn't under the like you know,

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<v Speaker 16>under like a work environment. So we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 16>sign anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, well, I mean yeah, for context, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are signed to rock Nation, which is jay Z's label,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I asked if you guys have met

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce is the affiliation? Did you guys play her any music?

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<v Speaker 1>Had she heard it?

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<v Speaker 10>Or we didn't play her music?

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<v Speaker 18>But I believe that we have heard that she has

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<v Speaker 18>heard our music. But yeah, it was just an honor

0:28:57.836 --> 0:29:02.836
<v Speaker 18>always to meet such an icon and a legend. Always

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<v Speaker 18>been very gracious to us as well, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 18>we love her, big fans of her on and off

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<v Speaker 18>the stage.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, she's really nice.

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<v Speaker 19>And she always points at our eyebrows because we like

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<v Speaker 19>Israel has a very strong example of this, but in

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<v Speaker 19>our I don't know, in our fan our geens, we

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<v Speaker 19>have like an eyebrow flick or something, and I think

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<v Speaker 19>she has the same thing. And like in her childhood

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<v Speaker 19>pictures you can see she has one eyebrow that goes

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<v Speaker 19>really up, so she'll like.

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<v Speaker 20>The eyebrows rounds them now always it might be a stretch,

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<v Speaker 20>but well, the few times we've met her, she has

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<v Speaker 20>been very excited to see that we have that in common.

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<v Speaker 17>She's like my cousins.

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<v Speaker 10>Please thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would die to have some cons family life.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something about the bright notes of real pumpkin, cinnamon,

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<v Speaker 1>and nutmeg. The flavors are so rich and vibrant, like

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<v Speaker 1>they bottled the best parts of the season. From the

0:30:47.916 --> 0:30:50.636
<v Speaker 1>very first sip, it feels like fall has arrived no

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<v Speaker 1>matter the weather outside, and the return of fall also

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of fall playlists, songs, layered with rich vocals,

0:30:57.996 --> 0:31:02.076
<v Speaker 1>acoustic textures, and a hint of nostalgia. And just like

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<v Speaker 1>how we all have favorite tracks for the summer, there

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<v Speaker 1>are some songs that just feel like fall. So to

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<v Speaker 1>help me celebrate the return of the starbar psl and

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the fall season, I'm joined to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a broken record co host Leah Rhodse to build a

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<v Speaker 1>fall playlist with some of our favorites. Leah, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me.

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<v Speaker 21>Thank you, justin I'm so excited to build this playlist.

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<v Speaker 1>First song I thought to add to this was Villain

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<v Speaker 1>by Anastasia, an artist who just had on broken record.

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<v Speaker 1>Her new album Tether is incredible and for me, when

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<v Speaker 1>I think about a fall song, I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>much daylight between what a fall song is and the

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<v Speaker 1>song that you might play if you wake up before

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else in your house five forty five am, six am,

0:31:42.596 --> 0:31:45.476
<v Speaker 1>and put on a pot of coffee Starbucks roast of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you sit at your kitchen table and just

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<v Speaker 1>watch that misclear, watch that sun come up fully, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there in your house in the morning in peace,

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever that feeling is that happens when you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what this song feels like to me, so

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be my first pick to start us

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<v Speaker 1>off here.

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<v Speaker 22>Yes, I feel that so deeply, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 22>Anastasia especially you mentioned fall songs having rich vocals, and

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<v Speaker 22>she has just like such deeply rich vocals.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Leo, what would what would you add?

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<v Speaker 22>My first pick would be Simon and Garfunkel's America. Oh

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<v Speaker 22>my gosh, there's something about this song. It's just like

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<v Speaker 22>so grand and sweeping and you know, thinking about possibility

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<v Speaker 22>and potential, and I feel like for some reason it

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<v Speaker 22>suits fall.

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<v Speaker 1>It fits that it fits that in line. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know of a question I found myself asking when when

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<v Speaker 1>fall hits, like where does the time go?

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<v Speaker 22>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I felt like a really natural pick for

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<v Speaker 1>a playlist like this was Fairport Convention, Who Knows Where

0:32:51.516 --> 0:32:55.956
<v Speaker 1>the Time goes, which is also just beautiful, beautiful song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fall morning for me.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, sometimes, especially fall mornings, especially if you have a

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<v Speaker 22>PSL in hand, you get a little hop to your step,

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<v Speaker 22>you might leave the house go on a nice brisk,

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<v Speaker 22>crisp walk. A song that I would put on for

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<v Speaker 22>that moment would be Tom Petty's Time to Move.

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<v Speaker 1>On that's a walking in rhythm right there, that's pick

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<v Speaker 1>me up walk in rhythm.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 22>There's something about the tone of Tom Petty's voice too,

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<v Speaker 22>that somehow plays into the Fall theme.

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<v Speaker 21>It's hard to explain, but I hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it feels very familiar, and it feels very warm,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if Tom has such a warm voice and

0:33:34.316 --> 0:33:38.276
<v Speaker 1>the songwriting is just you know, unbelievable. Of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna add Junior Varsity Cross the Street to this list

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<v Speaker 1>because even though this song is much more a beat

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<v Speaker 1>than the other songs I've picked so far, it has

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's like maybe it's that that almost

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleader chant one of the singers does on this song,

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<v Speaker 1>but it reminds me of like a back to school moment.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 22>I think it's good to include some of the upbeat

0:33:58.836 --> 0:34:01.316
<v Speaker 22>songs too, because for Fall, it's really easy to get

0:34:01.396 --> 0:34:05.676
<v Speaker 22>stuck in like a like the cozy, nostalgic, almost kind

0:34:05.716 --> 0:34:09.276
<v Speaker 22>of down tempo songs, but there is a feeling of like,

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<v Speaker 22>all right, we gotta get going, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's the back to school There is an upbeat.

0:34:14.836 --> 0:34:17.036
<v Speaker 1>Fall isn't all slow and languid.

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<v Speaker 22>Like it can be it can be fast, it can

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<v Speaker 22>also be very moody and kind of vibe. So my

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<v Speaker 22>next pick is Ermano Scutierre's Low Sun.

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<v Speaker 5>Mom My Boys.

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<v Speaker 21>I love these guys so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the way these guys play, they play with such

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<v Speaker 1>feeling and that just gets transmitted right through the record,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love it.

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<v Speaker 21>And this is a more contemplative song.

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<v Speaker 22>So if you're in the fall mood where you just

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<v Speaker 22>sort of want to sit and you want to just

0:34:44.316 --> 0:34:46.436
<v Speaker 22>sort of think about where you're going, what you want

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<v Speaker 22>to do, this is an incredible song.

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<v Speaker 17>For that too.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's an instrumental, So you know what I'm gonna

0:34:51.756 --> 0:34:54.836
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick an instrumental. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from the album We three from the drummer Roy Haynes,

0:34:59.156 --> 0:35:03.556
<v Speaker 1>pianist Phineas Newborn Junior, and bass player Paul Chambers. Three

0:35:03.756 --> 0:35:07.956
<v Speaker 1>classic classic incredible jazz musicians. I'll pick the song Reflection

0:35:08.116 --> 0:35:10.796
<v Speaker 1>from the Week three album. There's just like a crispness

0:35:10.876 --> 0:35:13.636
<v Speaker 1>to this song and there's like a Christnas to Roy

0:35:13.716 --> 0:35:15.516
<v Speaker 1>Haynes playing. I mean, he used to call him snap

0:35:15.676 --> 0:35:18.596
<v Speaker 1>Crackle because it's just that the way he would just

0:35:18.676 --> 0:35:20.716
<v Speaker 1>hit that snare and hit the ride and the high hat.

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<v Speaker 1>So that song feels like Chris fall Day to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus you know, gotta have some jazz representation on the playlist.

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah, okay, So my next pick it's a little bit.

0:35:29.116 --> 0:35:32.436
<v Speaker 21>It's a little bit different. Crosby still's a Nash Sweet

0:35:32.476 --> 0:35:34.636
<v Speaker 21>Judy blue Eyes, whoa one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the great songs of all. I love that song.

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<v Speaker 21>Come on, oh this song again. I don't know what

0:35:40.356 --> 0:35:40.676
<v Speaker 21>it is.

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<v Speaker 22>It's hard to describe, but something about like the reflection

0:35:44.076 --> 0:35:45.436
<v Speaker 22>talking about I am lonely.

0:35:46.436 --> 0:35:48.716
<v Speaker 21>It's so beautiful and it has those acoustic tones.

0:35:48.796 --> 0:35:50.396
<v Speaker 22>It has all the things that you were talking about,

0:35:50.396 --> 0:35:53.276
<v Speaker 22>has the beautiful harmonies, has the vintage feel.

0:35:53.796 --> 0:35:54.636
<v Speaker 21>It's a perfect song.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so you know what, I'm gonna round out

0:35:58.996 --> 0:36:00.676
<v Speaker 1>my portion of the list. I'll less you have last

0:36:00.676 --> 0:36:02.436
<v Speaker 1>pick LEO, but I'll round out my portion of this

0:36:02.516 --> 0:36:07.716
<v Speaker 1>list with this great young Newish Australian artist, Grace Cummins,

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<v Speaker 1>with the song you gave unbelievable the vocals, incredible, songwriting

0:36:13.836 --> 0:36:16.356
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. You know, it doesn't have the patina on

0:36:16.476 --> 0:36:19.036
<v Speaker 1>it that like a Sweet Jerty blue Eyes does, But

0:36:19.316 --> 0:36:21.796
<v Speaker 1>in my view, it's it's equally undeniable.

0:36:22.476 --> 0:36:22.676
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:36:22.756 --> 0:36:25.956
<v Speaker 22>Her voice is just so magnetic, it just pulls you in.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Lea, I'll let you round this out. I'll

0:36:28.276 --> 0:36:29.836
<v Speaker 1>let you take us home. Okay.

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<v Speaker 22>My final pick, I'm going to stick with the Laurel

0:36:32.076 --> 0:36:36.796
<v Speaker 22>Canyon scene. I'm gonna go with Joni Mitchell from Blue

0:36:37.236 --> 0:36:37.916
<v Speaker 22>A Case of You.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Man, Blue this song, but Blue in general.

0:36:43.076 --> 0:36:44.916
<v Speaker 1>Come on, that's the consummate Fall album.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh.

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<v Speaker 21>Just the songwriting is just unmatched, so gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've book ended this playlist with two great singer songwriters,

0:36:56.156 --> 0:37:00.276
<v Speaker 1>Anastasia Joni Mitchell. Incredible voices on the two of them.

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah, for sure, I'm going to be listening to this

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<v Speaker 21>all throughout Fall.

0:37:05.396 --> 0:37:07.996
<v Speaker 1>I'll be listening to them too. If you haven't heard

0:37:08.316 --> 0:37:10.076
<v Speaker 1>some of these songs, to add them to your cue.

0:37:10.436 --> 0:37:12.676
<v Speaker 1>We'll drop the full play list in this episode show

0:37:12.756 --> 0:37:15.716
<v Speaker 1>notes so you can sip on your PSL and enjoy

0:37:15.996 --> 0:37:17.436
<v Speaker 1>a soundtrack for the season.

0:37:17.916 --> 0:37:18.556
<v Speaker 10>Hotter Iced.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pumpkin Spice Latte is available now at Starbucks for

0:37:21.676 --> 0:37:24.556
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0:37:24.676 --> 0:37:28.236
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0:37:28.596 --> 0:37:31.516
<v Speaker 1>The Starbucks Pumpkin spice Latte, get it while it's hot

0:37:31.876 --> 0:37:36.636
<v Speaker 1>or iced your Rock Nation is such a cool group.

0:37:36.876 --> 0:37:38.676
<v Speaker 1>There's so many great and cool artists on it. I

0:37:38.716 --> 0:37:40.636
<v Speaker 1>just interviewed Bootsy Collins like last week and they just

0:37:40.676 --> 0:37:42.476
<v Speaker 1>picked up like Bootsy Collins and you're like, what, like,

0:37:42.556 --> 0:37:45.356
<v Speaker 1>what in the world, Like, it's such a wonderful collection

0:37:45.596 --> 0:37:50.316
<v Speaker 1>of artists. What's it like being heralded by someone like

0:37:50.436 --> 0:37:53.116
<v Speaker 1>jay Z? You know, because it's like it's an honor,

0:37:53.196 --> 0:37:55.156
<v Speaker 1>but it also could be like heavy, I'd imagine, right,

0:37:55.356 --> 0:37:57.036
<v Speaker 1>Like one thing.

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<v Speaker 10>That it has not been is heavy.

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<v Speaker 9>I do have to say that because when we signed,

0:38:02.956 --> 0:38:06.796
<v Speaker 9>we signed roughly almost we signed nine years ago as

0:38:06.876 --> 0:38:10.876
<v Speaker 9>a family. It was a joint venture between our famili's

0:38:10.916 --> 0:38:14.156
<v Speaker 9>company and rock Nation and there was really a connection

0:38:14.276 --> 0:38:18.436
<v Speaker 9>between him and our dad that set the relationship off

0:38:18.636 --> 0:38:22.236
<v Speaker 9>to a really, really good start, and there was an

0:38:22.356 --> 0:38:27.636
<v Speaker 9>understanding there. I can't really speak to it crazy, but

0:38:28.156 --> 0:38:32.316
<v Speaker 9>because I think it was like a relationship man to man,

0:38:32.436 --> 0:38:37.196
<v Speaker 9>and sure we were there, but there was a trust

0:38:37.276 --> 0:38:41.036
<v Speaker 9>there that so it's been very free for us as

0:38:41.116 --> 0:38:45.556
<v Speaker 9>a group. So we switched genres. We were doing more

0:38:45.716 --> 0:38:49.316
<v Speaker 9>R and B leaning and then we walked into the

0:38:49.436 --> 0:38:53.156
<v Speaker 9>label one day and said, we're doing soft rock.

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<v Speaker 14>Now.

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<v Speaker 10>Can you imagine the freedom that you have to have

0:38:58.956 --> 0:39:00.156
<v Speaker 10>to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 9>And early on in the relationship, one of the meetings,

0:39:03.636 --> 0:39:07.356
<v Speaker 9>jay Z he gave us permission and empowered us to

0:39:07.836 --> 0:39:12.196
<v Speaker 9>run our own race. He said the words, don't try

0:39:12.276 --> 0:39:14.476
<v Speaker 9>to catch up to us, wait for us to catch

0:39:14.556 --> 0:39:16.836
<v Speaker 9>up to you, and so that that was very empowering

0:39:16.876 --> 0:39:18.956
<v Speaker 9>and to set the tone for the relationship. I'm not

0:39:19.076 --> 0:39:22.716
<v Speaker 9>going to say that we've never, you know, disagreed on

0:39:22.836 --> 0:39:26.436
<v Speaker 9>anything within the label, because that just wouldn't be honest.

0:39:27.116 --> 0:39:29.116
<v Speaker 1>Controversially, Brahm, No, no, No.

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<v Speaker 9>What I'm saying is it's been a great relationship. It's

0:39:32.396 --> 0:39:35.116
<v Speaker 9>worked out really really well. So you have to put

0:39:35.156 --> 0:39:37.036
<v Speaker 9>I mean, that's cool. It's a record label, meaning you

0:39:37.196 --> 0:39:39.396
<v Speaker 9>have to kind of set the tone in some way,

0:39:39.436 --> 0:39:43.036
<v Speaker 9>and you were given permission by you know, this is incredible,

0:39:43.116 --> 0:39:45.436
<v Speaker 9>and that's what I That's why I said, of course

0:39:45.516 --> 0:39:48.396
<v Speaker 9>we've disagreed, and he said that in the meeting. He's like,

0:39:48.556 --> 0:39:51.556
<v Speaker 9>we will disagree on some things, but he said, do

0:39:51.756 --> 0:39:54.356
<v Speaker 9>not try to catch up. I want to frame it

0:39:54.556 --> 0:39:58.236
<v Speaker 9>in a way that just because you're given permission does

0:39:58.316 --> 0:40:02.436
<v Speaker 9>not mean that you don't have challenges. That's more my

0:40:02.636 --> 0:40:03.876
<v Speaker 9>thinking in the framing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the change from R and B soft rock, How

0:40:08.436 --> 0:40:11.716
<v Speaker 1>does that happen? That transpire within the group? Liked what

0:40:11.836 --> 0:40:14.796
<v Speaker 1>made you guys gravitate towards that kind of music.

0:40:15.876 --> 0:40:21.356
<v Speaker 19>It's something that kind of happened organically. It's really hard

0:40:21.436 --> 0:40:25.876
<v Speaker 19>to when you're trying to figure out how to position

0:40:26.076 --> 0:40:29.276
<v Speaker 19>yourself or market yourself. I think you can get really

0:40:29.316 --> 0:40:32.916
<v Speaker 19>in your head about what's the right move for me.

0:40:34.116 --> 0:40:36.116
<v Speaker 19>It just so happened that I was in a space

0:40:36.156 --> 0:40:40.236
<v Speaker 19>where I wanted to keep doing things in life that

0:40:40.356 --> 0:40:43.876
<v Speaker 19>felt good. We were posting covers online of songs and

0:40:44.036 --> 0:40:46.396
<v Speaker 19>dreams by Fleetwood. Mac was one of these covers that

0:40:46.476 --> 0:40:49.316
<v Speaker 19>we posted went viral. Was just a huge you know,

0:40:49.436 --> 0:40:53.996
<v Speaker 19>our arrangement of it was so singular, and so when

0:40:54.036 --> 0:40:57.356
<v Speaker 19>we put it online, like everybody loved it and we

0:40:57.476 --> 0:41:00.516
<v Speaker 19>moved on. We did other covers a few months goes by,

0:41:01.156 --> 0:41:05.676
<v Speaker 19>and there was something about the way that we performed

0:41:05.796 --> 0:41:08.276
<v Speaker 19>that song and arranged that song. I just remember us

0:41:08.636 --> 0:41:12.156
<v Speaker 19>before ever posting it, like coming up with that like

0:41:12.756 --> 0:41:15.356
<v Speaker 19>end tag in the back room of our house where

0:41:15.396 --> 0:41:17.716
<v Speaker 19>we rehearse, Like I just remember us wanting to sing

0:41:17.796 --> 0:41:21.916
<v Speaker 19>it over and over and over again, and being completely honest,

0:41:21.996 --> 0:41:24.636
<v Speaker 19>when you're working with your siblings, that doesn't happen every day.

0:41:24.916 --> 0:41:27.076
<v Speaker 19>It's more so like you want to stop singing as

0:41:27.116 --> 0:41:33.036
<v Speaker 19>soon as possible and move on so fast forward, like okay,

0:41:33.276 --> 0:41:35.356
<v Speaker 19>thinking about the future of the band, Like if I

0:41:35.596 --> 0:41:38.236
<v Speaker 19>wanted this to feel like something every day, it would

0:41:38.276 --> 0:41:38.876
<v Speaker 19>be that moment.

0:41:39.436 --> 0:41:40.236
<v Speaker 17>So that's how I.

0:41:40.276 --> 0:41:42.276
<v Speaker 19>Kind of framed it in my mind, and I was

0:41:42.316 --> 0:41:44.796
<v Speaker 19>thinking about it, I was like, maybe we need to

0:41:44.876 --> 0:41:48.036
<v Speaker 19>sing more of that kind of style of music, and

0:41:48.876 --> 0:41:52.916
<v Speaker 19>I just presented the idea to everyone else after thinking

0:41:52.916 --> 0:41:54.716
<v Speaker 19>about it for a long time. I was like, actually,

0:41:55.276 --> 0:41:59.316
<v Speaker 19>as a collective, I think soft rock really does represent

0:41:59.476 --> 0:42:04.796
<v Speaker 19>us because it's a genre where we can each collectively

0:42:04.956 --> 0:42:07.676
<v Speaker 19>like play to our strengths all at the same time.

0:42:07.796 --> 0:42:10.636
<v Speaker 19>It's not one person's you know, in their sweet spot

0:42:10.716 --> 0:42:13.756
<v Speaker 19>and the other people are like struggling or whatever. It's

0:42:13.836 --> 0:42:17.556
<v Speaker 19>like equally across the board, able to highlight us as

0:42:17.836 --> 0:42:20.676
<v Speaker 19>both a group and individuals at the same time. So

0:42:21.316 --> 0:42:23.916
<v Speaker 19>everyone kind of was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

0:42:24.436 --> 0:42:28.716
<v Speaker 16>I would also say when we did sign to rock Nation,

0:42:29.116 --> 0:42:32.996
<v Speaker 16>we didn't really we didn't necessarily sign with a genre

0:42:33.756 --> 0:42:36.996
<v Speaker 16>picked out. You know, we like kind of I don't

0:42:37.036 --> 0:42:38.836
<v Speaker 16>want to say we auditioned for jay Z, but we

0:42:38.956 --> 0:42:42.316
<v Speaker 16>did perform on the top floor for him in the office,

0:42:42.356 --> 0:42:46.436
<v Speaker 16>and it looked something like this with a guitar and

0:42:47.556 --> 0:42:49.756
<v Speaker 16>us just singing like we did with the guitar. No, no,

0:42:49.916 --> 0:42:52.596
<v Speaker 16>Victory was playing the guitar, and then we were all singing.

0:42:52.756 --> 0:42:57.596
<v Speaker 16>So it wasn't like we came in with five songs

0:42:57.716 --> 0:42:59.996
<v Speaker 16>ready to be played that are in the studio and

0:43:00.036 --> 0:43:03.596
<v Speaker 16>they're leaning towards a genre. Like there was no genre

0:43:03.756 --> 0:43:07.716
<v Speaker 16>picked out for us, but he more so saw the

0:43:07.876 --> 0:43:11.156
<v Speaker 16>vision of us, and he saw similarities.

0:43:10.516 --> 0:43:12.316
<v Speaker 17>Between our story and his story.

0:43:12.396 --> 0:43:14.756
<v Speaker 16>And you know, he sold his CDs out the back

0:43:14.796 --> 0:43:17.796
<v Speaker 16>of his truck and we would sell CDs when we

0:43:17.956 --> 0:43:20.396
<v Speaker 16>were growing up, Like our dad would have us in

0:43:20.476 --> 0:43:25.436
<v Speaker 16>the studio just working on old songs like hymns and

0:43:25.516 --> 0:43:28.556
<v Speaker 16>gospel songs, but also songs that he had written or

0:43:28.916 --> 0:43:31.516
<v Speaker 16>we'd written together, and we would sell those like we

0:43:31.556 --> 0:43:33.396
<v Speaker 16>would sell them to people on the street, like, hey

0:43:33.476 --> 0:43:35.956
<v Speaker 16>want to buy our music, and so like that kind

0:43:36.036 --> 0:43:41.836
<v Speaker 16>of foundational drive, I think more is what he signed

0:43:41.916 --> 0:43:46.036
<v Speaker 16>us for. So when we did start getting in the

0:43:46.076 --> 0:43:49.476
<v Speaker 16>studio and making music commercially. I think it was more

0:43:49.556 --> 0:43:54.676
<v Speaker 16>of a maybe a self imposed pressure to do what

0:43:54.996 --> 0:43:58.156
<v Speaker 16>felt like it could be commercially viable. Like he never

0:43:58.436 --> 0:44:01.036
<v Speaker 16>told us like you gotta do R and B, but

0:44:01.636 --> 0:44:04.676
<v Speaker 16>you know, trying to find your legs and trying to

0:44:04.836 --> 0:44:05.596
<v Speaker 16>find out.

0:44:05.596 --> 0:44:08.076
<v Speaker 17>Like, Okay, it's just a part of the process.

0:44:08.156 --> 0:44:10.916
<v Speaker 16>You go through different genres, you go through different things

0:44:10.996 --> 0:44:13.916
<v Speaker 16>until you kind of return home, or you kind of

0:44:13.996 --> 0:44:18.396
<v Speaker 16>return back to what you've always done, which is melding

0:44:18.476 --> 0:44:24.996
<v Speaker 16>our voices together in sweet harmonic ways and writing very

0:44:25.156 --> 0:44:29.316
<v Speaker 16>honest and truthful lyrics and finding a place, like Angel said,

0:44:29.356 --> 0:44:31.756
<v Speaker 16>finding a place for us all to shine. So we

0:44:31.876 --> 0:44:34.596
<v Speaker 16>were never told to be R and B or pop.

0:44:34.756 --> 0:44:37.636
<v Speaker 16>It was just kind of part of the process until

0:44:37.676 --> 0:44:40.796
<v Speaker 16>we landed to something that felt so natural.

0:44:41.756 --> 0:44:42.396
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 9>Wait very quickly, there's one aspect of this story that

0:44:46.596 --> 0:44:48.956
<v Speaker 9>I feel like I need to tell because people don't

0:44:48.996 --> 0:44:52.196
<v Speaker 9>know it. So this might be the first time I'm

0:44:52.236 --> 0:44:56.556
<v Speaker 9>telling this story. So key fact, our dad he somehow

0:44:57.036 --> 0:44:59.876
<v Speaker 9>got I don't remember how it happened, but he got

0:44:59.916 --> 0:45:03.756
<v Speaker 9>in contact with jay Z and he sent him an email.

0:45:04.476 --> 0:45:07.876
<v Speaker 9>I don't know how it happened, but we ended up

0:45:07.916 --> 0:45:11.916
<v Speaker 9>in the office. Then our dad had a pitch a pit.

0:45:12.036 --> 0:45:14.476
<v Speaker 9>He was going to pitch the family to Jay Z.

0:45:15.196 --> 0:45:19.596
<v Speaker 9>He brought a deck, a whole deck. Spent I don't

0:45:19.636 --> 0:45:23.236
<v Speaker 9>know how many days building this deck, and so we

0:45:23.356 --> 0:45:26.276
<v Speaker 9>get in the room. It's just it's it's our family.

0:45:26.916 --> 0:45:31.116
<v Speaker 9>It's Jay and it's Tai Chai. And now someone else

0:45:31.276 --> 0:45:33.756
<v Speaker 9>was there, and it's our family. And he starts going

0:45:33.836 --> 0:45:36.876
<v Speaker 9>through the deck line by line by line by line

0:45:36.996 --> 0:45:40.276
<v Speaker 9>by line, and it probably the presentation probably took twenty

0:45:40.316 --> 0:45:41.156
<v Speaker 9>minutes or something.

0:45:42.236 --> 0:45:45.796
<v Speaker 10>And he was nervous for sure. I don't know.

0:45:45.876 --> 0:45:47.476
<v Speaker 9>I would have to ask him how he felt, but

0:45:47.676 --> 0:45:50.956
<v Speaker 9>he I anticipate he was nervous by the time he

0:45:51.076 --> 0:45:52.556
<v Speaker 9>got done through the deck.

0:45:53.236 --> 0:45:58.076
<v Speaker 10>The next thing we were being offered was a record deal.

0:45:59.036 --> 0:46:00.716
<v Speaker 10>Like it was instant.

0:46:01.556 --> 0:46:05.476
<v Speaker 9>It's hard to put into as we're talking about this

0:46:05.716 --> 0:46:09.916
<v Speaker 9>relationship and the nine years and the work and all

0:46:09.956 --> 0:46:14.276
<v Speaker 9>of that stuff and our story and our history. It's

0:46:14.316 --> 0:46:18.716
<v Speaker 9>pretty crazy and pretty admirable, and it's just a byproduct

0:46:18.796 --> 0:46:23.596
<v Speaker 9>of what we keep in mind as we continue forward,

0:46:24.236 --> 0:46:26.396
<v Speaker 9>Like I'll never forget that deck.

0:46:27.276 --> 0:46:29.356
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like you should teach a masterclass all

0:46:29.396 --> 0:46:30.796
<v Speaker 1>the way. We don't bring that deck out.

0:46:30.836 --> 0:46:34.836
<v Speaker 9>That's oh, I just made the connection. Okay, Yeah, Father's

0:46:34.876 --> 0:46:40.556
<v Speaker 9>Day is on Sunday. Heavy Father's Day, great occasion on

0:46:40.636 --> 0:46:40.956
<v Speaker 9>our fall.

0:46:41.076 --> 0:46:46.476
<v Speaker 1>Mister boy After one last break, we're back with the

0:46:46.516 --> 0:46:49.796
<v Speaker 1>rest of my conversation with Infinity Song from the Tribeca Festival.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, Abraham that you're when you guys were raised

0:46:56.996 --> 0:46:59.316
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, hometown band was an asking top

0:46:59.436 --> 0:47:02.116
<v Speaker 1>New York. Yes, New York by way of Detroit. Yes,

0:47:02.236 --> 0:47:04.596
<v Speaker 1>I just want to make that clear because Detroit is

0:47:04.716 --> 0:47:07.516
<v Speaker 1>one of the great American cities produce some of the

0:47:07.596 --> 0:47:11.796
<v Speaker 1>great American votevocalists, and you guys in some way are

0:47:11.836 --> 0:47:14.236
<v Speaker 1>in that tradition and some others as well. But it's

0:47:14.356 --> 0:47:18.276
<v Speaker 1>just but you were raised in Detroit and you partially

0:47:18.676 --> 0:47:20.916
<v Speaker 1>and you said that your dad used music as an

0:47:20.956 --> 0:47:24.476
<v Speaker 1>instrument to teach you guys all kinds of things.

0:47:24.276 --> 0:47:27.636
<v Speaker 23>And yeah, he's here, by the way, it's right there,

0:47:28.276 --> 0:47:35.356
<v Speaker 23>mister Boyd, And he used it growing up.

0:47:35.676 --> 0:47:39.316
<v Speaker 9>But it's also something that he still uses to kind

0:47:39.356 --> 0:47:42.276
<v Speaker 9>of mentor us and teach us. He's our manager as well,

0:47:42.476 --> 0:47:45.876
<v Speaker 9>so we it's been a tool since childhood and it's

0:47:45.956 --> 0:47:50.236
<v Speaker 9>something that is still a tool of learning for us

0:47:51.196 --> 0:47:54.636
<v Speaker 9>as a family. So Detroit gave us our talent. New

0:47:54.756 --> 0:47:57.836
<v Speaker 9>York gave us our dreams, and that's often the story.

0:47:58.796 --> 0:48:04.036
<v Speaker 9>Usually it's hard to break through in the Midwest. The

0:48:04.156 --> 0:48:06.436
<v Speaker 9>South has figured it out that the Midwest is not.

0:48:06.916 --> 0:48:09.036
<v Speaker 9>So that's our story as well.

0:48:09.956 --> 0:48:12.596
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to make clear. So

0:48:12.796 --> 0:48:15.636
<v Speaker 1>four siblings are here, but how many total were in

0:48:15.676 --> 0:48:16.436
<v Speaker 1>the house growing up?

0:48:16.636 --> 0:48:18.956
<v Speaker 17>There are nine of us and in total.

0:48:19.076 --> 0:48:22.396
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's a job alled don dad. As a

0:48:22.476 --> 0:48:24.196
<v Speaker 1>dad myself, I'm not can only hope to.

0:48:25.796 --> 0:48:26.716
<v Speaker 10>Wait, how many do you have?

0:48:27.596 --> 0:48:27.756
<v Speaker 4>Two?

0:48:27.836 --> 0:48:28.556
<v Speaker 1>And one on the way?

0:48:28.836 --> 0:48:31.316
<v Speaker 10>So when when is the new one?

0:48:31.476 --> 0:48:31.996
<v Speaker 1>September?

0:48:32.436 --> 0:48:36.476
<v Speaker 9>Ooh yeah yeah, yeah, I'm a bar full summer.

0:48:36.676 --> 0:48:42.276
<v Speaker 1>This is so many ways, but yeah, I could only

0:48:42.716 --> 0:48:45.996
<v Speaker 1>I mean, without pushing music on my kids, I hope

0:48:45.996 --> 0:48:48.916
<v Speaker 1>I try to keep the house musical. And similarly, I

0:48:48.996 --> 0:48:50.636
<v Speaker 1>hope I'm trying to use music as a way to

0:48:51.236 --> 0:48:53.076
<v Speaker 1>teach my kids, not mean that that there'll be musicians,

0:48:53.116 --> 0:48:56.596
<v Speaker 1>but just to teach them that you mentioned integrity. You

0:48:56.676 --> 0:49:01.436
<v Speaker 1>can learn so much about integrity and character through music

0:49:01.956 --> 0:49:03.836
<v Speaker 1>and through having a love of music, because it really

0:49:03.876 --> 0:49:07.676
<v Speaker 1>connects you to humanity and the people around you. Were

0:49:07.756 --> 0:49:11.116
<v Speaker 1>you guys in a musical house? What was the how

0:49:11.436 --> 0:49:13.476
<v Speaker 1>or how was it musical? It was clearly musical, But

0:49:13.636 --> 0:49:14.676
<v Speaker 1>how was it musical?

0:49:15.316 --> 0:49:19.676
<v Speaker 17>It was musical in the small ways and the big ways.

0:49:19.836 --> 0:49:24.476
<v Speaker 16>So like waking my dad waking us up by blasting

0:49:24.756 --> 0:49:28.436
<v Speaker 16>music through the speaker, you know, singing, we're.

0:49:28.396 --> 0:49:29.636
<v Speaker 17>Just singing really loudly.

0:49:31.116 --> 0:49:36.036
<v Speaker 16>Or every day gathering around the table and he's beating

0:49:36.076 --> 0:49:38.316
<v Speaker 16>on the table, using the table as a drum, and

0:49:38.476 --> 0:49:41.956
<v Speaker 16>he has us improvising on the spot. I remember being

0:49:42.036 --> 0:49:46.836
<v Speaker 16>so young when my older siblings would jump in and

0:49:47.236 --> 0:49:49.036
<v Speaker 16>be able to make up words and make.

0:49:48.956 --> 0:49:52.356
<v Speaker 17>Up melodies, and I was like, will I ever be

0:49:52.436 --> 0:49:53.996
<v Speaker 17>able to improvise like that?

0:49:54.836 --> 0:49:54.996
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:49:55.196 --> 0:50:00.236
<v Speaker 16>So it was just the household of adapting, learning on

0:50:00.356 --> 0:50:06.356
<v Speaker 16>the spot, being able to be creative and think outside

0:50:06.396 --> 0:50:09.316
<v Speaker 16>of the box a little bit. I think that's when

0:50:09.636 --> 0:50:12.356
<v Speaker 16>you're young, you don't really understand all the lessons that

0:50:12.476 --> 0:50:15.196
<v Speaker 16>you're being taught, you know. And a lot of people

0:50:15.956 --> 0:50:19.396
<v Speaker 16>use so many mediums to teach their kids. Their sports families,

0:50:19.596 --> 0:50:22.636
<v Speaker 16>they are like film family. There are so many different

0:50:22.676 --> 0:50:26.476
<v Speaker 16>ways to teach your kids these fundamental life lessons. But

0:50:26.596 --> 0:50:31.356
<v Speaker 16>I think music being our dads, our parents' way was

0:50:31.396 --> 0:50:34.796
<v Speaker 16>so powerful because that's what you need. You need a

0:50:34.876 --> 0:50:37.076
<v Speaker 16>spirit of creativity. You need to be able to think

0:50:37.676 --> 0:50:41.596
<v Speaker 16>on your feet. You need to be able to deliver

0:50:41.716 --> 0:50:45.916
<v Speaker 16>a riveting performance in other ways in other areas of life,

0:50:45.996 --> 0:50:49.716
<v Speaker 16>and you know, win people over and speak people's language from.

0:50:49.556 --> 0:50:52.436
<v Speaker 17>Heart to heart and unite people.

0:50:52.716 --> 0:50:55.316
<v Speaker 16>You know, there's so many lessons that music teaches us

0:50:55.436 --> 0:50:58.356
<v Speaker 16>that you only start to realize when you get a

0:50:58.396 --> 0:50:59.116
<v Speaker 16>little bit older.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine the church as well had to do that

0:51:01.996 --> 0:51:02.436
<v Speaker 1>for you guys.

0:51:02.516 --> 0:51:02.636
<v Speaker 19>Right.

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<v Speaker 9>So for us growing up, we were exposed to a

0:51:08.036 --> 0:51:11.276
<v Speaker 9>lot of music, but we were not exposed.

0:51:10.836 --> 0:51:13.036
<v Speaker 10>To all music growing up.

0:51:13.276 --> 0:51:19.236
<v Speaker 9>So what that means is we grew up really steeped

0:51:19.356 --> 0:51:25.636
<v Speaker 9>in gospel music, classical music, and jazz, and then fourth

0:51:25.876 --> 0:51:28.876
<v Speaker 9>it was soul, but it wasn't like all soul.

0:51:29.356 --> 0:51:35.316
<v Speaker 10>It was like Marvin Gay and the Earth Wind and

0:51:35.396 --> 0:51:39.676
<v Speaker 10>Fire and like ron Isley. It was a limited list.

0:51:39.876 --> 0:51:44.676
<v Speaker 9>It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't everybody, and so I

0:51:44.756 --> 0:51:49.156
<v Speaker 9>think it was by design. Those were really foundational genres

0:51:50.156 --> 0:51:53.796
<v Speaker 9>that taught us. Music are to being a choir director,

0:51:53.956 --> 0:51:58.876
<v Speaker 9>having multiple choirs. Back in Detroit, choral music was was

0:51:59.516 --> 0:52:05.356
<v Speaker 9>key to our foundation. So we really didn't get into

0:52:05.436 --> 0:52:10.596
<v Speaker 9>pop music until teenage years. Which it's funny because now

0:52:10.676 --> 0:52:14.276
<v Speaker 9>we do prop me. I don't know, well, how.

0:52:14.156 --> 0:52:17.076
<v Speaker 1>Does that happen? How how do you guys go from

0:52:17.796 --> 0:52:20.196
<v Speaker 1>you know, if the order of operations musically in the

0:52:20.516 --> 0:52:24.996
<v Speaker 1>home was gospel, classical, jazz, and a smattering of top

0:52:25.276 --> 0:52:28.876
<v Speaker 1>shelf soul, then how do you guys go from that's

0:52:28.916 --> 0:52:33.156
<v Speaker 1>your diet to when you guys are performing becoming more

0:52:33.196 --> 0:52:33.996
<v Speaker 1>of a pop group?

0:52:34.476 --> 0:52:36.316
<v Speaker 18>I would say Also a big part of it is

0:52:36.396 --> 0:52:41.756
<v Speaker 18>that we all grew up obviously informed by the same

0:52:42.476 --> 0:52:45.956
<v Speaker 18>you know route, but we all took different things. We're

0:52:45.956 --> 0:52:48.916
<v Speaker 18>all different branches of the same tree. So you know,

0:52:49.676 --> 0:52:53.156
<v Speaker 18>Momo or Abram or Angel or whoever might gravitate more

0:52:53.196 --> 0:52:56.596
<v Speaker 18>towards one thing, and then I might gravitate gravitate more

0:52:56.636 --> 0:52:59.876
<v Speaker 18>towards another thing, and I think over time that just

0:53:00.396 --> 0:53:04.076
<v Speaker 18>that shaped us. You're hearing kind of an amalgamation, you know,

0:53:04.676 --> 0:53:08.956
<v Speaker 18>Like I remember growing up on gospel and classical in jazz,

0:53:09.476 --> 0:53:12.716
<v Speaker 18>but I didn't actually like I didn't understand music for

0:53:12.836 --> 0:53:15.956
<v Speaker 18>myself or even really listen to music. Until I was

0:53:16.676 --> 0:53:19.636
<v Speaker 18>sixteen or seventeen. So there was like when I was

0:53:19.676 --> 0:53:22.396
<v Speaker 18>a child and I would hear gospel or classical and

0:53:22.476 --> 0:53:25.196
<v Speaker 18>jazz in the house and I loved especially like an

0:53:25.276 --> 0:53:28.356
<v Speaker 18>artist my dad would play, Pat Metheeni was a really

0:53:28.396 --> 0:53:31.796
<v Speaker 18>big fan of him. I was around thirteen, maybe fourteen.

0:53:32.036 --> 0:53:35.196
<v Speaker 18>We were doing an interview and somebody asked, what's who

0:53:35.236 --> 0:53:39.236
<v Speaker 18>are your favorite artists? And I had no idea because

0:53:39.276 --> 0:53:40.996
<v Speaker 18>I didn't I understood music.

0:53:41.076 --> 0:53:41.636
<v Speaker 5>I just didn't.

0:53:42.116 --> 0:53:44.036
<v Speaker 18>I had not discovered it for myself. So I was

0:53:44.076 --> 0:53:49.316
<v Speaker 18>like Michael Jackson and I don't know, I liked these genres.

0:53:49.796 --> 0:53:53.116
<v Speaker 18>And then as I got older personally, it was it

0:53:53.236 --> 0:53:56.596
<v Speaker 18>wasn't so much discovering what I like more so it

0:53:56.796 --> 0:54:01.036
<v Speaker 18>was like putting faces to the things I already knew

0:54:01.076 --> 0:54:03.036
<v Speaker 18>I liked since I was a child. So I remember,

0:54:03.356 --> 0:54:06.196
<v Speaker 18>I don't know if we're supposed to say his name anymore,

0:54:06.356 --> 0:54:09.516
<v Speaker 18>but Kanye. I remember the first time, first time I

0:54:09.596 --> 0:54:11.356
<v Speaker 18>listened to him, I was like, oh, this puts this

0:54:11.516 --> 0:54:13.076
<v Speaker 18>puts a I think the first song I heard was

0:54:13.116 --> 0:54:16.516
<v Speaker 18>Blood on the Leaves, and I was like, this sounds

0:54:16.636 --> 0:54:19.716
<v Speaker 18>like you know, it was almost rock, you know, the

0:54:19.796 --> 0:54:22.876
<v Speaker 18>way he the spirit with which he, you know, wrote

0:54:22.916 --> 0:54:26.836
<v Speaker 18>that music. And but that's just one example. Then you

0:54:26.956 --> 0:54:31.036
<v Speaker 18>have just you know, over time, just musicians that I

0:54:31.156 --> 0:54:35.036
<v Speaker 18>personally gravitated towards that just uncovered what I like and

0:54:35.436 --> 0:54:38.436
<v Speaker 18>all that. I think that's kind of the thing for

0:54:38.516 --> 0:54:40.756
<v Speaker 18>all of us. The way, the way we developed as

0:54:40.796 --> 0:54:44.316
<v Speaker 18>a unit was that we all obviously have the same foundation,

0:54:44.636 --> 0:54:49.236
<v Speaker 18>but we all are very unique and Infinity Song does

0:54:49.316 --> 0:54:52.196
<v Speaker 18>not sound like any one of us. It sounds like

0:54:52.556 --> 0:54:55.716
<v Speaker 18>the collection of us truly. So that's how we get

0:54:55.796 --> 0:54:58.356
<v Speaker 18>to this. It's like, well, what do you like and

0:54:58.396 --> 0:54:58.836
<v Speaker 18>what do you like?

0:54:58.876 --> 0:55:01.196
<v Speaker 10>What do you like? And then it comes to this

0:55:01.356 --> 0:55:01.836
<v Speaker 10>kind of home.

0:55:02.836 --> 0:55:05.956
<v Speaker 1>Is that part of the writing process too, Like someone

0:55:06.036 --> 0:55:10.516
<v Speaker 1>brings an idea and then each person teases out what

0:55:10.636 --> 0:55:12.516
<v Speaker 1>their part is, or do you does someone come with

0:55:12.596 --> 0:55:16.356
<v Speaker 1>a fully formed idea like I believe you wrote pink

0:55:16.476 --> 0:55:17.276
<v Speaker 1>Sky right.

0:55:17.956 --> 0:55:19.316
<v Speaker 10>So yeah, usually it's someone.

0:55:19.796 --> 0:55:23.436
<v Speaker 18>Sometimes we write together, but actually we usually write separately.

0:55:23.596 --> 0:55:26.836
<v Speaker 18>But I think that even in our separate writings, I

0:55:26.876 --> 0:55:29.396
<v Speaker 18>think we all take into account the ear and the

0:55:29.836 --> 0:55:32.956
<v Speaker 18>temperament of the other performers, because you know, we're not

0:55:33.036 --> 0:55:35.596
<v Speaker 18>performing ourselves. So when I write, or when Angel writes

0:55:35.676 --> 0:55:38.836
<v Speaker 18>or whoever writes. I we just write for the group,

0:55:39.316 --> 0:55:41.756
<v Speaker 18>not for ourselves, because that's a whole whole different thing,

0:55:42.076 --> 0:55:44.236
<v Speaker 18>different temperament, different everything.

0:55:45.556 --> 0:55:48.276
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you guys had it at one point another

0:55:48.396 --> 0:55:52.236
<v Speaker 1>sister in the group, Victory, and she did some of

0:55:52.276 --> 0:55:53.916
<v Speaker 1>the writing too, So I imagine, and do you guys

0:55:53.956 --> 0:55:55.476
<v Speaker 1>still work with her or are you guys writing with

0:55:55.556 --> 0:55:57.916
<v Speaker 1>her on any level?

0:55:58.316 --> 0:56:01.116
<v Speaker 10>We look forward to I think that.

0:56:01.556 --> 0:56:05.636
<v Speaker 9>I mean, that's our sister, So there's always an opportunity

0:56:05.716 --> 0:56:10.116
<v Speaker 9>to collaborate, always an opportunity to work together right together.

0:56:10.876 --> 0:56:13.916
<v Speaker 9>When she went solo, I think there was a real

0:56:14.036 --> 0:56:18.836
<v Speaker 9>desire for her to build her own sound, and also

0:56:18.956 --> 0:56:21.116
<v Speaker 9>we had to do a lot of work because Victory

0:56:21.556 --> 0:56:25.156
<v Speaker 9>is a founding member of Infinity Song and our sound

0:56:25.996 --> 0:56:30.756
<v Speaker 9>was very much rooted in her musical paradigm when she

0:56:30.916 --> 0:56:33.036
<v Speaker 9>was in the band, and so we actually had to

0:56:33.556 --> 0:56:37.916
<v Speaker 9>relearn how we do music when she went solo. And

0:56:37.996 --> 0:56:41.796
<v Speaker 9>that was a blessing, but it was also extremely challenging

0:56:42.516 --> 0:56:46.556
<v Speaker 9>in terms of just the anatomy of what do we

0:56:46.756 --> 0:56:51.396
<v Speaker 9>sound like now? Going from twenty losing twenty percent of

0:56:51.476 --> 0:56:54.076
<v Speaker 9>the band and then also like fifty percent of the

0:56:54.156 --> 0:56:58.876
<v Speaker 9>creative DNA that was that was that was very challenging.

0:56:59.396 --> 0:57:02.116
<v Speaker 1>But until you can learn to, of course, reconfigure the

0:57:02.196 --> 0:57:05.676
<v Speaker 1>creative process and supplement the fifty and become your own

0:57:05.756 --> 0:57:08.436
<v Speaker 1>and find you right like I imagine you guys now

0:57:08.596 --> 0:57:11.596
<v Speaker 1>as a four some are finding your path creatively, like

0:57:11.716 --> 0:57:16.116
<v Speaker 1>Metamorphous is complete. It's such a wonderful project. And American

0:57:16.196 --> 0:57:18.716
<v Speaker 1>Love Song is a new song that came out. It's incredible,

0:57:18.956 --> 0:57:24.836
<v Speaker 1>really well written, beautiful song. So yeah, it seems like

0:57:24.996 --> 0:57:29.036
<v Speaker 1>you guys are are without victory finding it'd be like

0:57:29.276 --> 0:57:31.276
<v Speaker 1>earth Wind and Fire finding the way without you know,

0:57:31.476 --> 0:57:33.516
<v Speaker 1>Maurice or something. You guys are figuring it out.

0:57:33.636 --> 0:57:35.636
<v Speaker 17>Oh absolutely, I think so.

0:57:35.836 --> 0:57:40.716
<v Speaker 16>Metamorphosis complete was like completely written by US four, completely

0:57:40.756 --> 0:57:44.196
<v Speaker 16>written and produced by US four, and at this point

0:57:44.236 --> 0:57:50.196
<v Speaker 16>it is exactly like, Yeah, it was.

0:57:50.236 --> 0:57:51.916
<v Speaker 10>A hard year, to be clear.

0:57:52.036 --> 0:57:54.196
<v Speaker 9>It was one year where we were trying to figure

0:57:54.236 --> 0:57:58.236
<v Speaker 9>it out and then thank god, we came out with

0:57:58.436 --> 0:58:00.676
<v Speaker 9>better music than we've ever created together.

0:58:00.836 --> 0:58:02.316
<v Speaker 10>So it's it's quite remarkable.

0:58:02.836 --> 0:58:05.276
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, I would agree for.

0:58:05.356 --> 0:58:08.836
<v Speaker 1>You, momo. How what was your sort of trajectory through

0:58:09.556 --> 0:58:12.476
<v Speaker 1>discovering guitar and finding your voice?

0:58:13.356 --> 0:58:17.836
<v Speaker 16>So obviously the foundation that we've already you know, disclosed

0:58:18.116 --> 0:58:22.556
<v Speaker 16>like growing up in the household that I did, learning

0:58:22.676 --> 0:58:27.036
<v Speaker 16>so much from my dad. But then, as Israel pointed out,

0:58:27.156 --> 0:58:29.756
<v Speaker 16>like once you, once each of us reached a certain

0:58:29.876 --> 0:58:35.036
<v Speaker 16>age in like adolescence, you kind of have an awakening

0:58:35.236 --> 0:58:38.356
<v Speaker 16>like Okay, what do I really want to do? How

0:58:38.396 --> 0:58:41.996
<v Speaker 16>do I really want to sound? And I remember being

0:58:42.156 --> 0:58:49.876
<v Speaker 16>about eleven or twelve or something, and the biggest woman

0:58:50.236 --> 0:58:53.756
<v Speaker 16>singer influence that I had was Victory actually, funnily enough,

0:58:54.316 --> 0:58:57.276
<v Speaker 16>and I remember thinking, she has the best voice I've

0:58:57.276 --> 0:59:00.236
<v Speaker 16>ever heard. I want to sound just like her. And

0:59:00.836 --> 0:59:03.596
<v Speaker 16>you know, I would just watch her warming up, watch

0:59:03.676 --> 0:59:06.596
<v Speaker 16>her performing, and I would be like, Okay, if I

0:59:06.676 --> 0:59:09.716
<v Speaker 16>can sound like her, I will be very happy. And

0:59:09.836 --> 0:59:11.996
<v Speaker 16>that was my only goal. How do I sound like her?

0:59:12.636 --> 0:59:16.036
<v Speaker 16>Like when people cite their influences and like they say like, oh,

0:59:16.356 --> 0:59:18.236
<v Speaker 16>I learned this from Lauren Hill, And I learned that

0:59:18.356 --> 0:59:22.116
<v Speaker 16>from She's one of my initial influences.

0:59:22.316 --> 0:59:25.636
<v Speaker 17>You know, No, Victory, Okay.

0:59:26.556 --> 0:59:28.156
<v Speaker 1>Also Lauren, you said Lauren and that sort of thing

0:59:28.156 --> 0:59:29.236
<v Speaker 1>about unplugged.

0:59:28.836 --> 0:59:31.556
<v Speaker 16>In the guitar and no, absolutely I was gonna get

0:59:31.596 --> 0:59:36.596
<v Speaker 16>to her next because absolutely huge. The Unplugged album actually

0:59:36.756 --> 0:59:41.236
<v Speaker 16>changed my life. Also, Donnie Hathaway, just excellent in every way.

0:59:42.076 --> 0:59:45.156
<v Speaker 16>Nina Simone as well, just excellent at what she does,

0:59:45.276 --> 0:59:48.396
<v Speaker 16>but so unique. Same for Ella Fitzgerald.

0:59:48.556 --> 0:59:50.596
<v Speaker 17>Like I love vocalists that.

0:59:52.276 --> 0:59:56.996
<v Speaker 16>They aren't necessarily doing every riff and run under the sun,

0:59:57.116 --> 1:00:01.836
<v Speaker 16>but they have a very distinct voice. Donnie Hathaway, his

1:00:01.996 --> 1:00:03.956
<v Speaker 16>voice can come on and you know just who that is,

1:00:04.316 --> 1:00:06.836
<v Speaker 16>there's no question, and he can stop time, he can

1:00:06.876 --> 1:00:09.916
<v Speaker 16>stop the room. Same for Nina Simone, lingud comes on,

1:00:10.516 --> 1:00:15.356
<v Speaker 16>everybody silent, you know, So like that type of grounded

1:00:15.476 --> 1:00:20.756
<v Speaker 16>vocal ability is rare but so powerful. Really inspired me

1:00:20.836 --> 1:00:23.636
<v Speaker 16>when I was like sixteen seventeen and just finding my

1:00:23.796 --> 1:00:28.716
<v Speaker 16>legs and then from there discovering more like current artists

1:00:28.916 --> 1:00:29.396
<v Speaker 16>and being like.

1:00:29.396 --> 1:00:32.036
<v Speaker 17>Wait, okay, I kind of like pop, okay, kind of

1:00:32.076 --> 1:00:33.276
<v Speaker 17>like rock that's cool.

1:00:33.116 --> 1:00:37.956
<v Speaker 16>Too, and then just taking what I like from each

1:00:37.996 --> 1:00:40.556
<v Speaker 16>of these, each of these artists, each of these genres,

1:00:40.556 --> 1:00:43.156
<v Speaker 16>and doing my best to, like you know, as any

1:00:43.236 --> 1:00:46.356
<v Speaker 16>artist does, doing your best to use it all to

1:00:46.556 --> 1:00:50.116
<v Speaker 16>make one one thing for yourself, one lane for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you guys do your song metamorphosis.

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<v Speaker 24>I've never had a decent answer to a single question

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<v Speaker 24>I don't say my oveniance to I'm already sacond guessing.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't take a man. The chance is I just

1:01:31.956 --> 1:01:42.596
<v Speaker 3>stick to ward the person I guess answer the first impressions.

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<v Speaker 15>I gat.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me a God, but I do to something ever

1:02:07.196 --> 1:02:13.276
<v Speaker 5>to be so much not now, I'm stuck.

1:02:15.156 --> 1:02:27.756
<v Speaker 3>On out of mis Sometimes I don't like myself and

1:02:28.316 --> 1:02:34.836
<v Speaker 3>I be someone else, someone people makes that dreams not

1:02:35.276 --> 1:02:40.916
<v Speaker 3>true and drinks from the way she us, someone that

1:02:41.396 --> 1:02:48.436
<v Speaker 3>thy going and never seen to fall list.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I an't like myself and I be so much

1:02:54.556 --> 1:03:00.996
<v Speaker 5>use to get it out of God.

1:03:04.356 --> 1:03:17.356
<v Speaker 3>Perhaps it's a bit of hell to be so no short,

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<v Speaker 3>no suck.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot ca it the cord you can't see way

1:04:00.796 --> 1:04:06.556
<v Speaker 5>to look out on it? Things you do lo at rad.

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<v Speaker 3>Offices five and loud to get allow around.

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<v Speaker 5>A rock ship. He's in there on.

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<v Speaker 3>A say job because you have the faith. You're basking

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<v Speaker 3>in light alas ride come out grave a thousing, the breeziest,

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<v Speaker 3>the brud.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't confidence in joint.

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<v Speaker 3>Look God, oh thank you did look at the mais.

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<v Speaker 5>I found against the ship you say.

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<v Speaker 3>Ala stage because she phone me a great flouson prazu shay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was real scared. I was real scared to come

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<v Speaker 1>out this stuff. That was great, y'all. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank Infinity song Abraham Momo Angel Israel shredding the guitar

1:07:02.956 --> 1:07:06.116
<v Speaker 1>I was beautiful. I want to think Trybecca for having

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<v Speaker 1>broken the record here. It's wonderful live tape. And and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys for coming out and watching us up here.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great to have you guys, and hope to

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<v Speaker 1>do this again. Let us do it.

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<v Speaker 17>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>In episode description, you'll find a link to a playlist

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<v Speaker 1>of some of our favorite Infinity song tracks and also

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<v Speaker 1>some of our favorite soft rock songs. Be sure to

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