1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Finish question, Well, you brought a public trust at forty 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: one percent, So in a general way, without going for 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: an hour, tell me what you're going to do to sorry, 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: increase the public trust to the FBI. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Simple, make sure we don't have. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 3: And gentlemen, welcome to Human Events Daily. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 4: Today is January thirtieth, in the year of Our Lord 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. We were taking you live through the 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 4: various hearings going on right now. 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: We had law enforcement once we achieve that mission. 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 5: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 5: generation warfare. 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 6: A commentator, international social media sensation, and form a Navy 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 6: intelligence veteran. 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pisovic christ 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: Is King. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: Well, you probably discerned by now it's not Jack Pisobic, 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: it's Natalie G. Winters of the War Room filling in 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: for the next hour. But don't go anywhere where, of course, 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: can be dipping in and out of the hearings going 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: on right now. We have some people boots on the 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: ground providing US live coverage. But you're probably wondering where 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: the one and only Jack Pisobic is. So I'm going 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: to do something that we're not used to doing here, 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: I guess in the war room or human events Daley, 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: and that's reading something verbatim. But this is so awesome 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 4: for Jack for the show, I want to read it 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 4: straight from the press. Jack Pisobic is on assignment with 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: Secretary of Homeland Security Christinome in Vermont to be with 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: the family of the Border Patrol agent who is tragically 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: killed on January twentieth. Posa will also attend a crucial 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: briefing on the northern border operations happening shortly. 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: Hence why, like I said, you probably picked up on 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: it by now. 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: Natalie Winter's sitting here filling in for none other than 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: Jack Pisobic. But don't worry, You're still going to get 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: your brother's Posobic fixed because we actually have the one 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: and only Kevin Pisobic joining us down the line. I 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: believe outside of the Heart Senate office building, which is 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: where the cash could tell hearing you just saw a 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: little bit of live footage from and I'm sure you've 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: already seen the clips coming out today. Coming in I believe, 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: like I said, from the Heart Center office building is 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: Kevin Besoda because he's been there in person. Watching it, Kevin, 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: if you can put us in the room for our 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 4: viewers who aren't fortunate enough to be there, What is 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: the energy like in terms of the crowd, and more importantly, 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: how do you think the hearing has been going so far? 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 7: Hey Natalie, nice to see you up there again. Thanks 51 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 7: for stepping up. Yeah, we're down here at the Heart 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 7: Building to room two on six for Casher's confirmation hearing. 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 7: It was a blast in. There's still going on actually, 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 7: but so many great things coming out there and I'm 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 7: here in TULCI and RFK also add pretty pretty successful 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 7: meetings as well. And there was one of the things 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 7: I want to point out with Cash especially so many 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 7: good quotes he was saying. One was like we want 59 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 7: to have just Parks the play in again and not 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 7: needles to walk on. Everybody was trying to brace him, 61 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 7: all the Democrat senators just trying to get him on 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 7: this and that, and he just wants to bring back 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 7: law and order really like that's it, that's it. He 64 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 7: just wants to uphold the constitution and go after the 65 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 7: bad guys. And like he kept saying, like just keeping 66 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 7: it simple and getting the DC police, especially the Capitol 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 7: Police and all law enforcements. I mean, the premier service 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 7: of the whole world to be the FBI. Only forty 69 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 7: percent of Americans have faith and trust in the FBI 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 7: right now. And Cash is going to swear in to 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 7: his oath to restore that, to restore that for everybody. 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 7: And he's been on he's been on there since nine 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 7: point thirty this morning testifying to that. And it's amazing 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 7: to see, I mean all that, and he's got quote. 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 7: Another one I was happy to see was Josh Hawley 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 7: came out in force just asking, Hey, are you going 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 7: to continue to investigate Catholics for their their extremist views here? 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 7: Or are we going to go after like real terrorists 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 7: and knocking their doors and the drug cartels and stop 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 7: allowing all the fentanyl to come over the border. Like 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 7: what what parges? Have we seen any Catholics? Do any 82 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 7: any any Elso Herald and. 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 4: Kevin, I'm just I'm just curious to about a minute 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 4: and a half before we've got to cut to break. Obviously, 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: we've heard time and time again all the sort of 86 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: go to cliche attacks that they used against Cash Pattel. 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: Were there any sort of novel assertions obviously absurd and 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: false and smear campaigns. But were there any new attacks 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: that they sort of unveiled today exclusively saving them for 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 4: the hearings today or was it just more same old, 91 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 4: same old. 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 7: All right, thanks Natalie, Yeah, that's great. You know, it's 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 7: incredible to see cash up there. He was saying every 94 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 7: time a senator came in that every seven minutes in 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 7: this country, there's statistically, what did he say, two uh 96 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 7: to two overdoses, one murder, and three rapes every seven minutes. 97 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 7: So what do we you know, what are we doing 98 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 7: with all this, all this uh, you know, belittling him, 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 7: asking him if he's uh, you know this is Honestly, 100 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 7: there was a lot of shout out to the war room. 101 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 7: Really they kept they kept talking about the national anthem, 102 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 7: so I mean, we'll take it, we'll take the take 103 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 7: the free press. And especially because he was doing you know, 104 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 7: we donated all the money to charity towards the families 105 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 7: of injustice. And you know he's already starting, he's already 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 7: starting day one here. It's pretty great to see. It's 107 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 7: great to be down here. 108 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd love to audit all the senators who are 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: calling for such a fine tuned audits of Cash. Patel, 110 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: maybe we'll get those, Kevin. I think we're gonna jump 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: back to the hearing. It seems like some explosive stuff 112 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 4: is probably probably already going down in the meantime, though, 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: thank you so much for bring these hearings live. If 114 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: people want to follow you stay up to date with 115 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: your analysis of this and so much more, where can 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 4: they go to do that? 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: It looks like we're just going to go to cash. 118 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: Let's go back to. 119 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 8: Cash leadership that have politicized the law enforcement mission, and 120 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 8: we have spent I have spent a career removing politics 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 8: from law enforcement. And that's what the National Sheriff's Association 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 8: is all about. And I believe that's why they endorsed 123 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 8: me as a nominee for the first time ever. 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 9: So that's why they like you, that's why they support you. 125 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 9: That's why they've chosen to come in to come out 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 9: fully in support of your nomination of getting you confirmed, 127 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 9: because you share that view of you that has been 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 9: expressed by nearly every member of this committee today. I 129 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 9: would add, and this group a very large group of 130 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 9: law enforcement officials from throughout the United States of America, 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 9: has come in in support of you because of that. 132 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 9: As they do that, they express confidence in you specifically 133 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 9: and in your ability in particular to bring back quote transparency, integrity, collaboration, 134 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 9: and commitment to excellence within the FBI. Tell me what 135 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 9: you'll do in order to do that and how you'll 136 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 9: commit to work with other law enforcement both within the FBI, 137 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 9: elsewhere within the federal government and with state local law 138 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 9: enforcement officials to bring that back. 139 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 8: Senator, the only way to truly remove weaponization and politicization 140 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 8: from law enforcement is to follow the constitution. And if 141 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 8: you look at the FBI's website and their mission statement 142 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 8: and their core values, each has eight and the eighth 143 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 8: and last core value of the mission statement on the 144 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 8: FBI's website right now is fighting violent crime. 145 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: That needs to be number one. 146 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 8: The eighth core value out of all core values on 147 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 8: the FBI's website right now is rigorous obedience to the 148 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 8: Constitution that needs to be number one. Reorienting these policies 149 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 8: with an effective leadership in place. 150 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: To follow the law will allow us. 151 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 8: To achieve a singular standard of constitutional law enforcement. And 152 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 8: that is the only way you remove the weaponization from 153 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 8: politics and excuse me from law enforcement. And that's what 154 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 8: the sheriffs are talking about, and that's what cops are 155 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 8: talking about. 156 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 9: If men and women were angels, we wouldn't need government. 157 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 9: If we had angels to govern us, we wouldn't need 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 9: a constitution. We're not angels. We don't have access to them. 159 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 9: So we got to follow the rules, and that's your 160 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 9: top job. I appreciate your support for the constitution. 161 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 10: Center. 162 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 5: Wait, Hoose, just to tell you supposedly know something about 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: grand juries. I just went to the DOJ website to 164 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 5: get language. I'm quoting it. Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 165 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: six's e prohibits most persons present during the proceedings from 166 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: disclosing what transpired inside the grand jury room. However, the 167 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 5: proscription does not apply to witnesses. Now, as a grand 168 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 5: jury witness, authorize this committee access to a transcript of 169 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 5: your own testimony. 170 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 8: Center, I authorize this committee to get whatever is appropriate 171 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 8: and lawful, as I've said. 172 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: Before, specifically including the transcript of your grand jury testimony, 173 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 5: which you have the authority to authorize us to obtain. 174 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 8: Well, I don't know if I singularly have that authority. 175 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 8: I don't think that's how grandury testimony works. 176 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: You do juste you do because you are the witness. 177 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: Son't do that. There's also a court order on that case, sir. 178 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 5: Separately, you can get grand jury testimony by court order. 179 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: The witnesses can always reveal their grand jury testimony. Do 180 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 5: you authorize us to get access to your testimony? 181 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 8: I authorize this committee to lawfully obtain any records that 182 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 8: they are appropriately allowed to get. 183 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: And we are only you're speaking in circles now because 184 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: we're only lawfully or authorized to get at that with 185 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 5: your permission as the witness. Do you give us that permission? 186 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 8: Senator, I'm not an expert on this constitutional standard, and 187 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 8: so I can't commit to. 188 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Something it's not expert. 189 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: It's like super simple grand jury Rule six e doesn't 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 5: apply to witnesses. This is not hard. You are a witness. 191 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 5: That is a simple fact. I'm just authorized us to see. 192 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: It as a prosecutor. 193 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 8: Where grand jury witnesses were not allowed to share what 194 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 8: they were testifying to and when I was commissioned. 195 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 5: Brandurry, witnesses are allowed to speak about what they were 196 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: told well in the about what they said in the 197 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: grand jury, unless they're under a specific court order. Are 198 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 5: you under a specific court order not to reveal your 199 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 5: testimony in the grand jury? 200 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 8: Senator, I can't go into I can't go into court 201 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 8: orders granted by the DC District Chief Judge. 202 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 10: If they apply to you. 203 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: Of course you can. 204 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: You want me to violate a court order. 205 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 5: You're saying that there's a secret court order in which 206 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 5: you can't tell whether you're subject to a court order 207 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 5: or not. 208 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 8: I'm telling you that if you find the applicable court 209 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 8: order and it permits this. 210 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 5: I don't need a court order if you give authorization. 211 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 8: I'm not the one that has the authority to do that. 212 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: Yes, you are as a witness. You're just wrong on 213 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 5: that second. The FBI has records related to the criminal 214 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 5: investigations of Donald Trump. Will you protect those records in 215 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 5: a manner consistent with ordinary FBI document preservation practices? As 216 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 5: head of the FBI, all records will no destruction of 217 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: documents to please Trump. 218 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 8: No, I think he put forth a memo saying all 219 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 8: records must be preserved. 220 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 10: Good Senator Kennedy, thank you, mister Chairman. 221 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 11: Mister Patel, did you did you listen to what my colleague, 222 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 11: Senator Welsh had to say about politicizing the FBI and 223 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 11: the Department of Justice. I did, sir, I did too. 224 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 11: I always listen when Senator Welch speaks, and he's right. 225 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 11: But here's where we find ourselves today. And you can 226 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 11: put an end to this. For better or worse, either 227 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 11: in reality or perception. In modern times, the FBI has 228 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 11: been politicized, or at least there's an appearance. It started 229 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 11: with mister James call me. He publicly investigated the the 230 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 11: political nominee of both major parties, give us a book 231 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 11: of world records. He publicly investigated bo Donald Trump and 232 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 11: Hillary Clinton held a press conference. Hurt that agency more 233 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 11: than I will ever know. I wouldn't put I wouldn't 234 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 11: put mister Comby in charge of a ham sandwich. And 235 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 11: so did Peter Struck, and so did Lisa Page, and 236 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 11: so did Michael Sussman and the person who gave him, 237 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 11: a Hillary Cumtant lawyer, a pass to roam around the 238 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 11: Department of Justice and the FBI at will. And so 239 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 11: did the prosecutors who tried to slip by a two 240 00:13:51,920 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 11: misdemeanor plea deal for the President's son. And it, and 241 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 11: it hurts me to say this, but so did Attorney 242 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 11: General Garland for the first time in the history of 243 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 11: ever the Attorney General Garland, the Attorney General Garland shows 244 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 11: to prosecute are former president of the United States. And 245 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 11: this part is really special. He did it after the 246 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 11: former president of the United States announced that he would 247 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 11: be a candidate against his Attorney General Garland's boss. Forget 248 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 11: the merits. We can argue those all day long. You 249 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 11: understand the perception. It's got to end now. The seal 250 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 11: has been broken. We've got to stop it now. Don't 251 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 11: go over there and burn down that agency. You go 252 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 11: over there and lift it up, clean it out, but 253 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 11: lifted up in accordance with due process and the room 254 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 11: of aw because Senator Weils is right. 255 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 10: This has got to end now. 256 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 12: Sir Coon, thank you, Chairman Grassley, mister Patel. Our agencies, 257 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 12: in particular the FBI and DOJ critically rely on Inspectors 258 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 12: General and General Counsels for advice. As Chair Grassley and 259 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 12: many of us have long recognized federal agencies rely on 260 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 12: the independent oversight of Inspectors General, and agencies depend on 261 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 12: the legal advice of offices of General Counsel, and as 262 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 12: you've testified today, it's your intention to lead the FBI 263 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 12: within the boundaries of law and the Constitution. Last week, 264 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 12: President Trump fired more than a dozen Inspectors general and 265 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 12: provided no notice to Congress. 266 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 10: We passed the. 267 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 12: Law in twenty twenty two requiring the President to provide 268 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 12: Congress with a substantive rationale, including detailed and case specific reasons, 269 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 12: thirty days before the removal of anyig. How many days 270 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 12: has President Trump been in office? 271 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 10: Sorry? Center? 272 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: Approximately ten? 273 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 10: Ten? 274 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 12: Is it possible to give thirty days notice in ten days? 275 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm not great at maath, but it doesn't sound like it. 276 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 13: It doesn't. 277 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 12: You're an attorney. Did Trump violate facially violate this law 278 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 12: in terms of the timing of the firing of the 279 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 12: inspectors general? 280 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 8: Center, I'm not going to entertain a hypothetic on legal violations, 281 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 8: but I will look into all possible legal violations referred. 282 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 12: I'll simply say that for those of us concerned about 283 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 12: the quality and the duration of service of inspectors general, 284 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 12: this was troubling, and frankly, I think it is a 285 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 12: facial violation of a law passed by Congress. In September 286 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 12: twenty twenty three, on The Great America Show, a podcast. 287 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 12: You said, and I believe I'm quoting accurately, all these 288 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 12: General Counsel's offices throughout every agency and department need to 289 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 12: be slashed in half, because these lawyers just come in there, 290 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 12: and they come in there to slow down and paralyze 291 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 12: the movement of the America First Agenda. Mister Pateel, does 292 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 12: that comment suggest that, if confirmed, it would be your 293 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 12: intention to fire the career civil sermons the lawyers in 294 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 12: the FBI's General Council office. 295 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: No, could you give. 296 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 12: Us any reassurance that it would be your intention to 297 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 12: listen to the advice and council of the Inspector General 298 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 12: of the department and the General Council of the agency. 299 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: With addressing those in order center with IGS. 300 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 8: As you know, I believe and I've shown throughout this 301 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 8: preceding that IGS have provided valuable service in Republican and 302 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 8: democratic administrations, and I think they're critical and we must 303 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 8: have competent IGS going forward. Similarly, with General Council's officers 304 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 8: who are stocked with career employees, those employees must continue 305 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 8: their work so long as no employee politicizes the work 306 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 8: and mission of the FBI. 307 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 12: Thank you, My core concern about these firings of the igs, 308 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 12: about the independence of the agency have not. 309 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: Been fully satisfied. 310 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 12: I appreciate your answers here today, but I remain concerned 311 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 12: by your previous statements and your answers here today. 312 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, mister Chairman. 313 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Before I recognize he's Drew, Senator has some you you know, it's. 314 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 14: Good, Miss Chairman. I have two letters here i'd ask 315 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 14: younans consent they'd be entered into the record. One is 316 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 14: from William Webster, FBI director under Presidents Carter and Reagan 317 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 14: and c A director under Reagan and Bush. He's in 318 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 14: the audience. And another from twenty three Republican former law 319 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 14: enforcement officials. These are letters in opposition to the nomination 320 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 14: without objections or Senator. 321 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 10: Cruz, thank you, miss Chairman. Mister Brittel. 322 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 15: In the first round of questioning, you and I talked 323 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 15: about the politicization and weaponization of the FBI and the 324 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 15: Department of Justice. That has significant negative consequences in terms 325 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 15: of undermining trust in the FBI the Department of Justice, 326 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 15: and abusing the power of the FBI and the Department 327 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 15: of Justice. But it also has consequences in that it 328 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 15: diverts resources at the FBI and DOJ from urgent law 329 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 15: enforcement and national security priorities. I will tell you when 330 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 15: I go back home to Texas, I am somewhat regularly 331 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 15: asked by Texans should we abolish the FBI? 332 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: Now? 333 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 15: My answer to that is an emphatic no. 334 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 10: The FBI has a. 335 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 15: Critical mission of stopping bad guys, whether serial killers or 336 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 15: human traffickers, or child molesters or terrorists. But it says 337 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 15: something that a sizable percentage of America has so lost 338 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 15: faith in the bureau that they believe it should be 339 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 15: shut down. I think allowing the FBI to be politicized 340 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 15: has resulted in far too little attention being placed on 341 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 15: very serious national security. 342 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 8: Risks cuting and stopping any terrorist attacks here and any 343 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 8: homegrown activities abroad that are directed at the United States 344 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 8: of America, along with countermanding the CCP espionage rings in 345 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 8: this country which dovetail with the foreign terrorist organization activity. 346 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 15: Does it concern you that Customs and Border Patrol in 347 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 15: the previous administration instructed border patrol agents in particular to 348 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 15: be on the lookout for Hamas or Hesbalo or Palestinian 349 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 15: Islamic jihad terrorists crossing our southern border. Does that concern 350 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 15: you as a risk to Americans across the country, That. 351 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 8: Along with the fact that the prior Homeland Secretary and 352 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 8: the prior FBI Director testified to Congress that there are 353 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 8: dozens of known foreign terrorist affiliates in the United States 354 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 8: of America and they don't know where they are. 355 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 15: And it will be your priority to stop them. 356 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 10: Is that correct? 357 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 358 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 13: Thank you, Thanks, Miss Chairman. I'm going to ask you 359 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 13: some easy questions. I take it from what you have 360 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 13: said to a couple of my colleagues that while we 361 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 13: may disagree on the meaning of Rule sixty as to 362 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 13: getting the transcript, you would not object to this committee 363 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 13: seeking access to that transcript. No, and you're aware that 364 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 13: Rule sixty permits you to talk about your own testimony. 365 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 13: Will you testify to this committee, let's say, in a 366 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 13: classified setting, as to what you said to the grand jury. 367 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: Center. 368 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 8: I'm here to testify to this committee about everything I'm 369 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 8: allowed to, and. 370 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 13: You're allowed under Rule sixty to tell us what you 371 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 13: said to the grand jury. This is kind of the 372 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 13: first day that an assistant US attorney goes to the 373 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 13: first grand jury and is asked by witness, can I 374 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 13: talk about what I told you? And the answer is yes, you. 375 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 8: Know, center, I will consult with counsel and provide the appropriate. 376 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 13: Me Let me just say, right to the point, Prittel, 377 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 13: what are you hiding? 378 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 10: Why won't you tell us? You testified under a. 379 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 13: Grant of immunity after taking the Fifth Amendment, as you're 380 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 13: privileged to do, and the appearance here is that you 381 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 13: have something to hide. I submit to my colleagues on 382 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 13: the committee, we need to know what the grand jury 383 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 13: testimony is. We need access to that second volume, and 384 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 13: you have no objection to our seeking it, but you 385 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 13: won't tell us, even in a classified confidential setting. I 386 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 13: think that position is disqualifying. 387 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 8: That was days of testimony years ago. I don't have 388 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 8: the ability to record. 389 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 16: Well. 390 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 13: You can refresh your recollection with access transcript. Let me 391 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 13: ask you another topic, and I really regret that you 392 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 13: won't cooperate with us on the grand jury testimony. Would 393 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 13: you object to the firing of the Department Justice Inspector 394 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 13: General Michael Horowitz? 395 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: Would I object to it? 396 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 8: That's the providence for the Attorney General to make. It's 397 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 8: not something I would participate, but. 398 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 13: You know, of his work, it's been bipartisan, very thorough, competent, objective, impartial. 399 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 13: He has been critical in Republican and Democratic administration. Won't 400 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 13: you object to his firing? 401 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 8: I think he's done a great job. But it's not 402 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 8: up to me to decide who stays and goes at 403 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 8: the Department of Justice. 404 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 13: But I'm not asking you to make the decision. I'm 405 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 13: asking you whether you will take a stand, speak up, 406 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 13: stand up in favor of a watchdog who has helped 407 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 13: preserve the integrity the Department of Justice and aligned himself 408 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 13: against waste and fraud and abuse. 409 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: If the Attorney General asked me, yes for my opinion. 410 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 10: Thank you, Miss Chairman, Thank. 411 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 17: You, mister Chairman, Mister Brittel. I want to continue on 412 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 17: a brief topic I earlier and one that we've discussed 413 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 17: in my office when you came to visit in December, 414 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 17: and that is Redstone Arsenal and the FBI assets and 415 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 17: the men and women that will report to you when 416 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 17: confirmed that are there in Huntsville, Alabama. So I really 417 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 17: want you to come and visit with me. The state 418 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 17: of the art facilities that you have that we have 419 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 17: there are pretty incredible. I mean when you look across 420 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 17: the board, we have the Ballistics Research Facility, the Hazardous 421 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 17: Device School, we have t DAC, which is the Terrorist 422 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 17: Terrorist Explosive Device Analytics Center, and last, but not least obviously, 423 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 17: what is sometimes referred to as Headquarters South, we have 424 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 17: the sprawling North and South campus of the FBI. Look, 425 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 17: there has been over four billion dollars invested there. It 426 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 17: is truly remarkable that the training that is going on there. 427 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 17: There's they are delivering to missions when it comes to 428 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 17: emerging technologies, investigating lead generation, security and contracts, personnel, and 429 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 17: human resources, just to name a few. Fortunately, I don't 430 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 17: have enough time in by three minutes to dive into 431 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 17: all of the incredible work that's doing there, but just 432 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 17: want to reiterate that the workforce occupying these facilities, they 433 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 17: were moved from. 434 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 10: DC to Huntsville. 435 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 17: They are working diligently each and every day to make 436 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 17: sure that men and women in uniform are the best trained, 437 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 17: equipped and ready that there is. And I would love 438 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 17: a commitment from you just to come with me to 439 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 17: visit those facilities, see what those men and women are doing, 440 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 17: what they're learning, and all of the training that's right 441 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 17: there at their fingertips center. 442 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: You have that commitment. 443 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 8: And this is a great example, real quick of the 444 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 8: FBI's capabilities and infrastructure systems around the country that already 445 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 8: exist to the tune of billions. And not only is it, 446 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 8: I believe a thirty eight thousand acre sprawling campus. This 447 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 8: Congress billeted two five hundred seats, but four thousand seats 448 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 8: still remain open. 449 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: So let's go to work. I'll come to Alabama and 450 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: let's fill those seats. Absolutely, I love it. 451 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 17: I love to hear that. And another thing too, Obviously, 452 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 17: as we've looked over the last couple of years, I'll 453 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 17: put on my appropriator hat. The budget obviously for the 454 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 17: FBI has been decreased. Obviously you're going to help us 455 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 17: return America's trust in the FBI. But as we look 456 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 17: at that and we try to make those numbers work, 457 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 17: I just want on your radar. I want you to 458 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 17: be thoughtful about this. You know it's easy to say 459 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 17: let's cut training. That's an easy thing to cut. First, 460 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 17: I think that that's the worst thing that we can do. 461 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: We want to make. 462 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 17: Sure that our men and women are ready, that they're 463 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 17: ready to find leads that lead to child trafficking rings 464 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 17: and other things. And you've talked about the rapes, the 465 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 17: fentanyl overdoses, the murders. We want to make sure that 466 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 17: we are equipping them with all the tools necessary to 467 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 17: make those strides for the American people. And so just 468 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 17: want your commitment from you that as we look at 469 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 17: those things, that you will take a good look at 470 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 17: training and make sure that that's not the first thing 471 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 17: that they can It's. 472 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: Got absolutely high standards in Meerica. 473 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 18: Thank you so much, Thank you, mister chairman. As we 474 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 18: talked about, mister Patel, truth incredibly important in an FBI director, 475 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 18: and a number of the things I asked you about 476 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 18: in the first round you didn't recall or you wanted 477 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 18: more context. I'm going to give you one of those. 478 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 18: I'll give you the rest on the record. That was 479 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 18: about when I asked you about the Capitol police officers 480 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 18: who testified in the January sixth hearings, and you accuse 481 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 18: them of lying. You said, and I quote, I don't 482 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 18: think that's accurate. I actually have the transcript here which 483 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 18: was reported by the Washington Post, and that was in 484 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 18: March of twenty twenty four on Joe Pack's podcast he 485 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 18: asked you the Capitol Police in that fake January sixth 486 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 18: committee they didn't tell the truth, did they, Patel? No, 487 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 18: not just them, many others, and lying under oath is 488 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 18: a federal offense and they should be investigated for it. 489 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 18: Do you believe that about the police officers? 490 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 8: General statement and a mischaracterization of what I said. I 491 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 8: encourage you to read the rest of the interview. This 492 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 8: is why snippets of information are often misleading and detrimental 493 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 8: to this committee's advice and consent. 494 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 18: If you consent, I would love to have five hours 495 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 18: of questions and then I could read the whole transcripts. 496 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: You've got two minutes. 497 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 18: Wow. In September, you referred to the FBI's Intel Branch, 498 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 18: which was stood up after nine to eleven and works 499 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 18: to protect us from foreign adversaries like China as quote 500 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 18: the biggest problem the FBI has had quote, and you 501 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 18: said you wanted to quote break that component out of 502 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 18: the FBI. It was the same sentence where you said 503 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 18: about turning the FBI headquarters into a museum. Do you 504 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 18: really think that closing the Intel Branch will make Americans safer? 505 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: Again, that's not what I said. 506 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 8: The Intelligence component of the FBI has seen some politicization 507 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 8: and weaponization that we've discussed here today, and intelligence collection 508 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 8: capabilities belong in the intelligence community. Having served in both 509 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 8: law enforce and intelligence communities, I'm uniquely qualified to bring 510 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 8: the intelligence limited component back. 511 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: To the FBI. 512 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 8: That ties back to the legislative mandate of prosecuting and 513 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 8: investigating criminals. 514 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 18: Okay, last I will end early. Mister Chairman, you said 515 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 18: in May of twenty twenty three, this is important to 516 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 18: all of us because Elon Musk is playing such a 517 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 18: major role in the government right now. You said Elon 518 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 18: Musk cares about two things, your data and his money. 519 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 18: Do you still stand by those words. 520 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: I don't have that entire quote, but that's what it says. 521 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 18: It was in a you were angry because of an 522 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 18: endorsement of Governor DeSantis in Florida, and so you were 523 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 18: defending Donald Trump, and so you criticized Elon Musk, and 524 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 18: that's what's the context for it. And you said, Elon 525 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 18: Musk cares about two things, your data and his money. 526 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 18: And it matters to us because he's playing such a 527 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 18: major role in the government. And so I just wonder 528 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 18: if you think that's true. 529 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 8: I don't have that full quot out in front of 530 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 8: me to respond, thank you, thank. 531 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: You, sir. 532 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 19: It sounds to me like my fellow senator is trying 533 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 19: to get you to move FBI headquarters to Alabama. I 534 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 19: have a full list of why actually moved to Florida, 535 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 19: and at the very least, maybe a Flora Bama FBI HQ. 536 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 19: Good people, there are good recruits. We would fully support it. 537 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 19: Moving on to a more serious matter, I know you 538 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 19: would be shocked to learn this. As AG and as 539 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 19: the chair of the Human Trafficking Council in Florida, we 540 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 19: saw trafficking explode around the nation as a result of 541 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 19: the Biden administration wide open borders. It's no surprise to anyone, 542 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 19: but it might shock you to know that the National 543 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 19: Human Trafficking Hotline that was funded by Congress to report 544 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 19: tips to law enforcement in the last four years, decided 545 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 19: that they would no longer report tips to law enforcement, 546 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 19: that they would take a more victim centered approach. And 547 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 19: this fell in line with a lot of what we 548 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 19: saw over the last four years with people saying things 549 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 19: like defund the police, abolish the police, nonsense policies that 550 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 19: lead to an explosion in crime. You and I both 551 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 19: understand that from our prior work experience. 552 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely so. 553 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 19: There was a CEO that was put in charge in 554 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 19: the last four years who said she that we cannot 555 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 19: arrest our way out of the human trafficking problem. And 556 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 19: I quote trafficking in all its forms is the end 557 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 19: result of inequities, abuses of power, and massive system, systemic 558 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 19: and government failures. Do you believe that that is in 559 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 19: fact the cause of human trafficking or is it the 560 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 19: result of evil, heinous humans that seek to profit off 561 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 19: of others pain. 562 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 8: The only people responsible for human trafficking are the criminals 563 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 8: that intentionally traffic in humans, in children and exploit them. 564 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 8: And if I'm confirmed, it will be one of the 565 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 8: top priorities to make sure that doesn't happen in this 566 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 8: country and that we find the thousands of missing children 567 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 8: that are still missing. I, along with many of the 568 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 8: other Attorneys general in this nation, in a bypower to 569 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 8: some fashion, not only demanded that they begin reporting tips 570 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 8: to law enforcement so that they could follow up and 571 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 8: go after the traffickers so that they didn't do to 572 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 8: victimize and victimize. 573 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 19: Others, but we also came to Congress and tried to 574 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 19: get funding pulled or at least a mandate that they 575 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 19: do what they were created to do, and that is 576 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 19: to report tips to law enforcement. Do I have your 577 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 19: word moving forward as someone who understands the necessity to 578 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 19: go after traffickers, to not only identify and rescue victims, 579 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 19: but to shure there aren't other victims? 580 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: Do I have your word? 581 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 19: You'll work with me to come to Congress to make 582 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 19: sure that that happens so that that can never happen again. 583 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 10: You do, Senator, I'm proud. 584 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 19: To say in Florida we were able. When we didn't 585 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 19: get that result here in Congress, we started our own HOTLINEES, 586 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 19: one of the first in the nation, and no surprise, 587 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 19: we immediately rescued ten victims of human trafficking that were 588 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 19: being held by force and massage parlors. Reporting to law 589 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 19: enforcement works. It allows us to rescue and save lives, 590 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 19: and I know you will bring that mission focus back 591 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 19: to the FBI. 592 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, Senator. 593 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 10: I will. 594 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 16: Thank you, mister Chairman. Mister Chairman, I want to touch 595 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 16: on something that it's been on my mind lately, and 596 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 16: I will try it back to this hearing. We have 597 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 16: seen a wholesale attack and assault in the past two 598 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 16: weeks by President Trump on the value of diversity. Through 599 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 16: his executive orders, he is seeking to dismantle over sixty 600 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 16: years of work to promote equal opportunity in the federal government. 601 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 16: His pronouncements have gotten so bad that apparently the Defense 602 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 16: Intelligence Agency issued a memo two days ago that it 603 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 16: would no longer commemorate Martin Luther King Day, Women's History Months, 604 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 16: Holocaust Day of Remembrance, or Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month, 605 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 16: and so on. Why is there such a fear of 606 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 16: people who are different? In Hawaii, we celebrate diversity, know 607 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 16: that it gives us strength. It is part of what 608 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 16: makes Hawaii and America greed. Mister Pattel, earlier you shared 609 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 16: some deplorable racist rhetoric that have been used against you. 610 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 16: As someone who has also been the recipient of this 611 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 16: sort of hateful language, I am deeply sympathetic. I also note, 612 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 16: mister Pattel, then in the past, you have recognized the 613 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 16: value of diversity. Back when you were in law school, 614 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 16: you signed on to an amicus brief in the Grither 615 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 16: case supporting consideration of race in law school admissions. I 616 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 16: hope that joining the Trump administration will not cause you 617 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 16: to change your views on the value of diversity. Reflecting 618 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 16: on this hearing, it is sad that we are considering 619 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 16: mister Pattell's nomination despite his gross inadequacy to do the 620 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 16: job of FBI director fairly and objectively. Yet there is 621 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 16: no question that much pressure has been brought to bear 622 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 16: on my Republican colleagues to support this nomination. For example, 623 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 16: a man named Mike Davis has been threatening my Republican colleagues. 624 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 16: He said that this vote was a red line that 625 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 16: if Senate Republicans don't vote to confirm mister Patel, his organization, 626 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 16: a group called the Article three Project, would make their 627 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 16: lives a living hell. I certainly hope that all of 628 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 16: us will base our vote on your nomination on the 629 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 16: best interests who can work in the best interest of 630 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 16: our country, and not based on this sort of pressure. 631 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 12: Thank you, mister Chairman. 632 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I can hear you. Yes, yes, yes, of course. 633 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 20: Yeah, and you and you. I think you've stated that 634 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 20: the best reflection and the most accurate version of your 635 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 20: testimony is the transcript in the grand jury question uh 636 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 20: testimony that you're fine to be released, but the court 637 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 20: has to go do that, right. Yeah, okay, And it 638 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 20: lasted like three or four days, is what we were saying. Yes, 639 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 20: I also want to Senat Durbins talked about, you know 640 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 20: what your priority or your priorities will be, and I 641 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 20: think your testimony has been that it will be adherence 642 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 20: to the Constitution and the people the United States of America. Right, 643 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 20: you take that very seriously. 644 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: That's it. That's the only thing that matters. 645 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 20: Could you talk about maybe some other priorities we talked 646 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 20: to We talked initially my first round, about getting the 647 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 20: FBI back to its core mission, which is to fight 648 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 20: crime and not you know, sort of try to do 649 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 20: the things that it's been doing the last four years. 650 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 20: Talk about how you might bring that together. 651 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 8: So, Senator I appreciate the questions. Something I wanted to 652 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 8: address maybe six hours ago. So I appreciate the opportunity. 653 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: To do it now. 654 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 8: Whether we prioritize going after violent crime and national security, 655 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 8: we cannot defend against either of those successfully unless we 656 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 8: go after the underlying criminal nexus there, and whether it's 657 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 8: human trafficking, whether it's terrorism, whether it's opioids, and whether 658 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 8: it's just outright gang violence. The intersection there is narco trafficking. 659 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 8: It is the underlying underbelly, the evil, illegal underbelly of 660 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 8: all those operations that we have not prioritized. In my opinion, 661 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 8: as a law enforcement agency, the collective power we can 662 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 8: rain down on criminal narco trafficking networks. 663 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: And ideally, if. 664 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 8: I'm confirmed centated, I would like to work with Attorney 665 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 8: General Pambondi, if she confirmed, to set up Regional Drug 666 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 8: Interdiction Task Force where our local sheriff's offices, our local pds, 667 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 8: and our local precincts are folded in with the FBI 668 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 8: on an information and authority sharing basis to take down 669 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 8: the criminal networks. And the advice and consent process has 670 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 8: been extremely informative. This to me, I do not know 671 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 8: your jurisdictions as well as you all ever will. That's 672 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 8: what makes this so critically important educational. I did not 673 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 8: know that Memphis was the homicide capital of America per capita. 674 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 8: I did not know that there was a corridor in 675 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 8: Ohio that speaks to the human trafficking volume more so 676 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 8: than any intersection in the country. 677 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: That is what I will rely on your expertise. 678 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 8: Across the aisle to fold in those resources and target 679 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 8: those criminal active hotbeds. And I believe if we are 680 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 8: successful and actually crippling the narco trafficking networks, we will 681 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 8: see a decrease monumental in violent crime and at the 682 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 8: same time protecting America's national security. 683 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 20: And maybe, just maybe, where you have a third of 684 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 20: the personnel for the FBI here in Washington, d C. 685 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 20: Maybe just maybe, one of the reforms is to get 686 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 20: more of those folks out into those areas across the 687 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 20: country to go do that, right, that's what you're talking about. 688 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 21: I think so, sir, Thank you, thank you, Miss Chairman. 689 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: Mister Patel, do you know any of these five individuals? 690 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 5: Erica Knight, you. 691 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 4: Are still here watching human events. Don't worry, we will 692 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 4: go back to the hearing. But we are joined for 693 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 4: a special interview that I wanted to bring you, guys 694 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: with none other. 695 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 3: I don't know how many times we get to have chefs. 696 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 4: Here joining us on Real America's Voice, but Chef Andrew Grohl, 697 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm sure you've seen not just his wonderful food, but 698 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 4: his great. 699 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: Posts all over X. 700 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 4: I feel like you're go viral all the time. I'm 701 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 4: honored to have you joining us. I know you wanted 702 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 4: to talk about the RFK confirmation hearings the Maha movement 703 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 4: more broadly. I think you have an interesting perspective being 704 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: a chef working so intimately with food. Obviously, the food supply, 705 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 4: I think is one of the actors that the Maha 706 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 4: movement is kind of most I would say on offense 707 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 4: about whether it's the depleted minerals in the soil or 708 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 4: just the weird, woke dietary guidelines and regulations that they're 709 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 4: trying to push on us. 710 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: I'm curious if you just want to kind of give. 711 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 4: The audience your perspective, your vantage point from the confirmation 712 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 4: hearings that we've heard with respect to RFK Junior. 713 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 22: Well, first and foremost, I'm absolutely shocked that there is 714 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 22: so much pushback when it comes to RFK because I've 715 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 22: been in this space now of kind of food systems 716 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 22: and sustainability and obviously running restaurants for ten fifteen years, 717 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 22: and it was ten or fifteen years ago when I 718 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 22: started really talking about local food systems that the only 719 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 22: support I actually got, funny enough, was from some of 720 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 22: these kind of left leaning hippies who are all about it, 721 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 22: and now those same people are out there to crine 722 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 22: OURFK Junior as a conspiracy theorist, so it's all just 723 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 22: political talking points. This is the most bipartisan confirmation I 724 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 22: think I've seen in at least a decade, and yet 725 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 22: for some reason it's controversial. All he's asking for is 726 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 22: that we actually break up the consolidated food manufacturers who 727 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 22: are running our entire food system quite literally, also on 728 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 22: the restaurant side of things, and allow a lot of 729 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 22: these small and local farmers to access the supply chain 730 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 22: and to get people to understand why it's important to 731 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 22: eat healthier food, get a lot of these chemicals, which 732 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 22: quite frankly are more medicine like than they are food like, 733 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 22: out of our food system. And that doesn't necessarily mean 734 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 22: by you know, unilateral decree or banning, but just the 735 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 22: mere education will decrease the demand. 736 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 21: I see it on the restaurant side, because all. 737 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 22: We are forced through is all that's forced on us 738 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 22: are all of these processed, chemically laid in foods in 739 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 22: the form of rebates and subsidies that restaurant tours get 740 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 22: up front, and then they have to buy through one 741 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 22: of the three big distributors, and I've been fighting against 742 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 22: that for years, which is why it's been, you know, 743 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 22: somewhat of a grassroots movement on the chef side of things. 744 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 22: And of course all of these other chefs are now 745 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 22: quiet about RFK because all of the propaganda has hit 746 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 22: the airwaves. But he's just trying to get people good, 747 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 22: healthy food and allow us as chefs and foodies to 748 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 22: access that in a much easier manner. I'm also a 749 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 22: father of four. I've got four kids, so this vaccine 750 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 22: issue was also really important to me. We've moved our 751 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 22: kids out of the public school system because we weren't 752 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 22: going to subject them to the crazy litany of vaccines 753 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 22: that are out there. I've already got one child who 754 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 22: did have a vaccine injury, and we know exactly what 755 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 22: it's like. But for us to just say, hey, maybe 756 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 22: we should look at this, and to have people call 757 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 22: me a conspiracy theorist for asking questions is absurdity at 758 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 22: its peak. It's the apex of absurdity. So I'm really 759 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 22: vested in this, obviously, but it's pretty simple, and if 760 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 22: you think about it, it's very very bipartisan. But it's 761 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 22: just another example of the way in which the propaganda machine, 762 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 22: in conjunction with big government and of course big media 763 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 22: comes together to try and brandwash Americans. 764 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 4: Well, there's such an interesting bifurcation I think between food, 765 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 4: food and medicine, where despite all these Democrat senators who 766 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 4: look like they could use a walk or a workout 767 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 4: lecturing us about how they really really care about health, 768 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 4: they just don't like how RFK is going about it. 769 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: But I think you hit the nail on the head 770 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 4: how food and food systems and food supply chains are 771 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 4: such a critical part of all of this. I'm curious 772 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 4: from your sort of insider experience, you know, I think 773 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 4: most restaurant tours, chefs, and they're in some capacity, are 774 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 4: involved in whether it's the trade or industry associations that 775 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 4: obviously don't represent consumers, don't represent families, don't represent the 776 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 4: average American citizen. What do you think the pressure is 777 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 4: right now on a lot of these senators to vote 778 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 4: against him? What just sort of that whipping of votes, 779 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 4: the pressure campaigns coming from big Farmer or people like 780 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 4: Mike Pence who are getting a bunch of money to 781 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 4: hill against RFK. 782 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 3: In your sort of experience, what do you think that 783 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 3: is looking like behind. 784 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 21: The scenes, Well, that's what I keep talking about. It's 785 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 21: all about special interest money, right. 786 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 22: So we see it on the restaurant side of things 787 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 22: because all these massive food manufacturers, they pump so much 788 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 22: much money into the supply chain through the massive distributors 789 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 22: and then ultimately to the chefs to say, look, if 790 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 22: you commit to buying this product and here's all the 791 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 22: fake health benefits of it, we're gonna give you fifty 792 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 22: thousand dollars up front in the form of a rebate, 793 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 22: which is really just them giving you the money, and 794 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 22: then you pay double the amount back over a certain 795 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 22: period of time. And they know that restaurant tours are 796 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 22: strapped with cash because it's the most margin type industry, 797 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 22: so they use that money to manipulate the chefs to 798 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 22: try and control the consumer base, to manage what they 799 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 22: consider to be trends. And what I think is hilarious 800 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 22: is that, let's use seat oils as an example. Over 801 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 22: the past three to four years, suddenly talking about seed 802 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 22: oils is conspiratorial, right, It's a right wing conspiracy to 803 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 22: say that you don't want seed oils, and you actually 804 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 22: now have left wing influencers who know nothing about health 805 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 22: going out there and saying, oh, yeah, I'm gonna chug 806 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 22: my canola oil or I'm gonna you know, there's nothing 807 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 22: wrong with coke, and now they're fitness experts. 808 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 21: That's what I love about this. 809 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 22: I've been doing this my whole life, and now you 810 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 22: know every twinkie on the left is a fitness expert. 811 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 22: It's like, first of all, well, you know, you got 812 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 22: your barrel chested freak and you have absolutely no idea 813 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 22: what you're talking about, but you're just being paid from 814 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 22: an influencer side of things. Now, extrapolate that across a 815 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 22: massive industry restaurants in food service, and you've got chefs 816 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 22: and general managers and restaurant owners who are taking that 817 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 22: same money. And they're saying, yeah, we're gonna use souybinoa, 818 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 22: We're only gonna use canola oil, and why would I 819 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 22: use butter or why would I use healthy fats. That's 820 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 22: a bad thing. And then their customers hear that and 821 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 22: they say, you know, the local restaurant that chef and 822 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 22: restaurant owners said it was a bad thing, and therefore 823 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 22: he's an expert. Now you can take what they're doing 824 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 22: in food service. Now apply that to medicine, right, and 825 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 22: doctors are the chefs or you know, nurses, they're the 826 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 22: chefs in this world and everybody looks to them as 827 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 22: the experts. 828 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 21: So it's all about that money coming down right, hitting 829 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 21: the people who need it. 830 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 22: Politicians, you know, the lobbyists know what buttons to push, 831 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 22: and then chef's restaurant tours, and you can extrapolate this 832 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 22: also into fitness and so many other industries. And then 833 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 22: that money talks and it goes right back up to 834 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 22: the top, and then it comes back out and where 835 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 22: you see it being distilled on the distribution into kids 836 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 22: school foods, right, subsidies, and what they're being fed is 837 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 22: disgusting and that's why kids are sick. And then when 838 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 22: you see snap benefits, you see people getting food stamps 839 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 22: and all they're getting is bags of Doritos and coke 840 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,959 Speaker 22: and all of this bad food. 841 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 21: And I'm not saying we should ban any of that. 842 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 21: Don't get me wrong. 843 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 22: I love a diet coke from time to time, and 844 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 22: I'll crush them doritos. But if you're using taxpayer dollars 845 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 22: right to support these big food manufacturers only to make 846 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 22: people and especially kids sick. Well, that's a broken system. 847 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 22: I would much rather if those dollars are going to 848 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 22: be spent, I'd much rather see them spent the support 849 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 22: small farmers, independent farmers who are producing good meat, regenerative agriculture, 850 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 22: things that are actually perpetuating a much healthier ecosystem and 851 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 22: encouraging the biodiversity of our ecosystem as opposed to ripping 852 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 22: it apart with GMOs, just monocropping and subsidies that ruin 853 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 22: our soil. 854 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 4: It's the new, I guess twenty twenty five version of 855 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 4: Bread and Circuses, except the circuses are a lot more 856 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 4: and who knows what's in. 857 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 3: The bread that they're trying to feed us. 858 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 4: Chef Andrew Grull, I think you're the first chef I've interviewed, 859 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 4: hopefully not the last time. 860 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 13: I know. 861 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 4: You've got a wonderful book about making food, being in 862 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 4: the kitchen something that you can do with your wonderful family. 863 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 4: Give us a little thirty second plug on that and 864 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 4: how people can stay up to date with everything you're 865 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 4: working on. 866 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 22: Yeah, this is our family cookbook. So this is about 867 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 22: getting people in the kitchen. It's real simple, it's approachable, 868 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 22: it's easy, no seed oils, because in the kitchen that's 869 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,479 Speaker 22: where people come together. We've lost community and we've lost 870 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 22: kind of our moral north star as well. And I 871 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 22: say that happens when family sits around the table. Food 872 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 22: is the great unifier. You can get our cookbook at 873 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 22: andrewcookbook dot com. It's really simple. It's a partnership with 874 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 22: Brave Books, which is a wonderful company publishing company as well, 875 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 22: with good morals and good values. And that's what this 876 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 22: cookbook is all about. Let's just get into the kitchen, 877 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 22: knock down some of those barriers, and even just cooking 878 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 22: more one more time a week with your family will 879 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 22: make a huge difference in everybody's life. 880 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 3: Andrew, thank you so much for joining us. 881 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 4: We'll have you about gone soon, hopefully to celebrate the 882 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 4: confirmation of none other than RFK Junior. 883 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 3: And I want to pivot to another. 884 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 4: I guess angle of attack that people who certainly are 885 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 4: opposing RFK Junior love to go and try to destroy 886 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 4: this country with. Usually when you're talking about what chance 887 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 4: like death to America, you have to look overseas, but 888 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 4: I guess in this case you don't really have to 889 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 4: look that far. 890 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm coming at you live from Washington, d C. 891 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 4: So I guess I probably could just walk outside five 892 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 4: feet and find some crazy, deranged, although now defunded, left 893 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 4: wing NGO type group that wants to come and destroy 894 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 4: this country subvert President Trump's strong borders agenda. Also, they 895 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 4: can up roll out George Soros and the World Economic 896 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 4: Forum's master plan for open borders. 897 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: To that point, we're going to get into. 898 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 4: How George Soros is actively helping criminal migrants avoid deportation. 899 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 4: But before we get there, I want to walk you 900 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 4: through with the American Civil Liberties Union, which you would 901 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 4: think from the name, cares about you Americans or your 902 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 4: civil liberties. But apparently the only thing they care about 903 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 4: is ensuring the rights of criminal legal aliens to avoid 904 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 4: deportation and stay in this country and kill you and 905 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 4: your family, your children and your grandchildren. They put out 906 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 4: a long memo their new strategy called the Firewall for Freedom. 907 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: Apparently that's a wall that they can get behind. And 908 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 4: I want to read a quote from you now, I 909 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 4: don't know about you. Sounds a little bit like election 910 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 4: denialism to me. The results of the twenty twenty four 911 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 4: election are clearer. State governments must step forward to become 912 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 4: the frontline for freedom and defend their residence against the 913 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 4: Trump administration's promised. 914 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 3: Assaults on our rights. 915 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 4: No, the twenty twenty four election was actually a clear 916 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 4: and historic mandate for President Donald J. Trump in favor 917 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 4: of strong and secure borders. Sorry, ACLU, you lost this one, oh, 918 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 4: and you lost twenty twenty two. But they continue because 919 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 4: they say in this memo, which we can flash on 920 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 4: screen and to show you just how well and how 921 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 4: elaborate these schemes are plotted out, that one of the 922 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 4: things that they're now actively lobbying stayed in local officials 923 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 4: to engage in is quote opting out of Trump's deportation 924 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 4: machine by quote minimizing local entanglements with abusive and discriminatory 925 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 4: immigration enforcement programs by refusing to contract with ICE officials 926 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 4: to provide detention space necessary to Trump's deportation machine and 927 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 4: ensuring local police do not provide any support to ICE 928 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 4: for its raids and other arrests. And yes, you didn't 929 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 4: pick up on that Bury lead. That means absolutely no collaboration. 930 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 4: If you're a pedophile, a sex trafficker, a rapist, or murderer, 931 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 4: The American Civil Liberties Union does not want any police 932 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 4: force on the ground to collaborate or to work with ICE. 933 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 3: That's how radical these people are. 934 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 4: But it gets worse because their only focus is to 935 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 4: quote protect people vulnerable to deportation. 936 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 3: By get this. 937 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 4: Apparently the preemptive part in for Anthony Fauci and all 938 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 4: those hacks wasn't enough. Now they want to quote issue 939 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 4: pardons to immigrants for state criminal convictions that make them deportable, 940 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 4: as well as passing legislation to allow people to obtain 941 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 4: a driver's license without regard to citizenship. And just for 942 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 4: good measure, they also want to quote limit cooperation between 943 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 4: local and federal law enforcement, such as Joint Terrorism task Forces. 944 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 4: They don't want to collaborate or cooperate with ICE or 945 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 4: police authorities and officials to nab actual terrorists in your 946 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 4: neighborhoods and communities in the name of open borders and 947 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 4: in the name of opposing President Donald J. 948 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: Trump. 949 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 4: That's the evil and depravity that you're up against with 950 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 4: the innocuously named American Civil Liberties Union. And just to 951 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 4: make it even better, the ac and this is some 952 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 4: breaking news, but the ACLU is suing, of course in 953 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 4: concert with a bunch of voting rights groups try to 954 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 4: make that make sense to block these deportations in addition 955 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 4: to going against President Trump's efforts to basically rescind or 956 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 4: reverse the fourteenth Amendment. And they're suing on behalf of 957 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 4: a group called Make the Road New York. Now here's 958 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 4: what's so interesting about Make the Road New York. Like 959 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 4: I said, the far left activist group that is on 960 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 4: the front lines of making sure that the ACLU's wet 961 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 4: dream of you and your family being killed by illegal 962 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 4: aliens can. 963 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 3: Happen in Donald J. Trum's America. 964 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 4: And this group that's now with the legal frontlines of 965 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 4: ensuring that that nightmarish hell becomes a reality. Will guess 966 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 4: how much money they received in terms of government grants 967 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 4: and contributions and their most recent tax filing for my guess, 968 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 4: fiscal year twenty twenty three sixteen million, one hundred and 969 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 4: twenty four thousand, five hundred and eighty two dollars on 970 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 4: top of the tens of millions of government grants that 971 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 4: they've already received. So, in other words, the Biden regime, 972 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 4: in addition to all the years proceeding, has been pumping 973 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 4: full these far left lawfare groups in order to carry 974 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 4: out legal assaults against the Trump administration to ensure that 975 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 4: our border remains open and that criminal illegal aliens can't 976 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 4: be deported. And while we're at it, George Soros one 977 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 4: of the radio stations that he recently acquired thanks to 978 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 4: Joe Biden, a network called Odyssey, while they were actually 979 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 4: busy doxing ICE agents in the cars that they were 980 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 4: operating out of conducting these mass. 981 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 3: Deportation raids just a few days ago. 982 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 4: If we can roll this radio soot, this is again 983 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 4: played on a George Soros radio station talking about trying 984 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 4: to help criminal illegal aliens avoid deportation. 985 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 23: Let's roll it the chances in just a moment for so, 986 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 23: I'm Brett Burkharden. Here's what's happening. San Jose Mayor Matt 987 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 23: Mayhon Head council member Peter Ortiz confirmed today that US 988 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 23: Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are currently carrying out an 989 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,240 Speaker 23: operation on the east side of town. The Santa Clara 990 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 23: County Rapid Response Network, which is a community defence projecting 991 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 23: system for immigrant communities against deportation threats. It first reported 992 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 23: the activity on its platforms in a statement at KCBS Radio. 993 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 23: Mayor Mayhon says the city's police department does not assist 994 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 23: with or participate in these operations in any way. The 995 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 23: Country's Counties Response Networks says agents in San Jose were 996 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 23: in unmarked vehicles, including a black Dodge Durango, a gray 997 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 23: Niece On Maxima, and white nis On truck. Ice agents 998 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 23: were also reported outside a residence on South White and 999 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 23: Toty Roads, and officers were reportedly at the target on 1000 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 23: King and Story Roads. Stay with KCBS, we'll be tracking 1001 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 23: it for you. 1002 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 4: I think we just listened to a minute of treason, 1003 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 4: because that's exactly what you just witnessed. Again, that's a 1004 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 4: George Soro's owned and operated radio station. You heard down 1005 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 4: to the make and model of the frickin' car that 1006 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,439 Speaker 4: they were using to deport criminal illegal aliens. They were 1007 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 4: dosing on airwaves. First and foremost, I think President Trump 1008 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 4: should go and rescind any and all active let alone. 1009 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 4: I guess maybe can you retroactively rip some of those 1010 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 4: federal grants away from groups who are behind these lawsuits 1011 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 4: this advocacy to make sure that President Trump's immigration agenda 1012 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,879 Speaker 4: cannot be rolled out. 1013 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 3: The ACLU is busy. 1014 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 4: Filing FOYA after FOYA after FOYA request so they can 1015 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 4: what leak to the media like they did I'm sure 1016 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 4: to the Wall Street Journal ahead of these mass deportation 1017 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 4: raids like the one in Chicago, so President Trump can 1018 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 4: be kneecapped, they can get ahead of him. It really 1019 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 4: is sick and depraved. I mean truly, I'm really at 1020 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 4: a loss for words when I broadcast. But the American 1021 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 4: Civil Liberties Union, let that sink in, is working overtime 1022 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 4: to ensure that convicted criminals will get pardons from people 1023 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 4: who you supposedly elected at the state level, because I 1024 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 4: guess the effort to get Joe Biden to do on 1025 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 4: the federal level didn't work for those criminals, only certain 1026 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 4: criminals like Anthony Fauci. They're working overtime to ensure that 1027 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 4: those people will not be deported. And by the way, 1028 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 4: just to round it all out, I don't think we 1029 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 4: have time to play it, but the ACLU, in true 1030 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 4: propaganda form, has also launched an actual smear campaign, a 1031 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 4: propaganda campaign called Letters to America where they're showing a 1032 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 4: bunch of ooh, poor me, crimey river videos of so 1033 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 4: called illegal aliens who came to the United States for. 1034 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 3: What a better life? 1035 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 4: Well, what about the American citizens who want a better 1036 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 4: life and are sick and tired of being used and 1037 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 4: exploited and laughed at and mocked and ridiculed like you're 1038 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 4: seeing going on at the hearings today. The regime that 1039 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 4: weaponized against you and put Stephen kpe Bannon in jail 1040 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 4: and Peter Navarro in jail now wants to sit there 1041 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 4: and gaslight you and tell you that if you think 1042 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 4: Cash Pattel being the answer to all of the disgusting 1043 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 4: degeneracy and weaponization that has gone on at the FBI, 1044 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 4: that you're actually the crazy one, or that someone like 1045 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 4: Tulci Gabbard, who's served honorably in the Army Reserves, that 1046 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 4: I guess she was good enough to die for the 1047 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 4: United States of America, but now that she wants to 1048 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 4: tell the IC that there are a bunch of lying 1049 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 4: hacks who've only ever used their security clearances to screw 1050 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 4: this country over. 1051 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 3: Now apparently she's not good enough. 1052 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 4: And that's what they've said to the tens of thousands 1053 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 4: of young American men and women who've died, shedding blood 1054 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 4: for this country for a globalist regime that truly hates them. 1055 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 4: Was an honor to have filled in for none other 1056 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 4: than Jack Pisobic Today you gotta use promo code posso sorry. 1057 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 4: Steve on bar Room of course gets the books. Willetprove 1058 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 4: all that we're going to toss back to the hearing. 1059 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 4: Believe see will be back for five pm at war Room. 1060 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 4: Natalie Winter's filling in for the one and only Jack pisobc. 1061 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 4: Thank you guys for watching and enjoy the rest of 1062 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 4: this beatdown hearing. 1063 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 3: Have a good one. 1064 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 10: How did we get here? And where are we going? 1065 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 11: History is littered with democracies that lost their freedoms and 1066 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 11: didn't notice. 1067 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 10: It while it was happening. Let's not be one of them. 1068 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 24: They're times up. Before Senator tell Us ends this, I 1069 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 24: want to put in the record letter from the parents 1070 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 24: of Kayla Muller. Kayla Muller, mister Pottel met them through 1071 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 24: his role in the successful operation to track and kill 1072 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 24: ISIS leader Alberti. The terrorists that I'm quoting, the terrorist 1073 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 24: group ISIS, kidnapped our daughter Kayla on August twenty thirteen. 1074 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 24: Any family who has lived through such an experience will 1075 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 24: know the value you have dedicated, compassionate law enforcement officials 1076 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 24: because we have personal experience of his dedication. We know 1077 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 24: the cash, but