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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, Sherry peppaining, that's a name that will

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Speaker 1: go down in infamy. Remember the thirty something year old

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Speaker 1: so called super Mom. She seemingly had it all. You know,

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Speaker 1: all of us working mom slogging through trying to get

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Speaker 1: pets and the children and the grannies that live with you,

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Speaker 1: and the this and the that, and make it to

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Speaker 1: seemingly had it all beautiful, no question about that, slim

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Speaker 1: svelt Peppie, beautiful Hume, wonderful children. You never hear about

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Speaker 1: them going to geeb jail or anything like that, loving

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Speaker 1: adoring husband. Remember when she went missing? And for those

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Speaker 1: of you that can only hear me and can't see me,

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Speaker 1: I put missing in super big air quoties. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Serious X one eleven.

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Speaker 1: Sherry Peppini faked oh whole kidnapping that lasted nearly a month,

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Speaker 1: leaving her husband and her little children wondering is mommy dead?

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Speaker 1: Come to find out, she was shocked up with her

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Speaker 1: ex boyfriend doing god only knows what. But that's not

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Speaker 1: my concern. That's not against the law. Who sleeps with

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Speaker 1: who don't care? But when you pull a hoax like

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Speaker 1: this on law enforcement, you got another thought coming. Let

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Speaker 1: me just jog your memory because guess what we have

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Speaker 1: today for your viewing and listening pleasure. Videotapes of Peppini

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Speaker 1: sticking to her lies. She is in interrogation after interrogation,

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Speaker 1: after interrogation trying to convince authorities that two Hispanic women

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Speaker 1: kidnapped her for sex purposes, beat her, shackled her, branded

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Speaker 1: her with a hot brand like on Yellowstone. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I just can't stop looking at

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Speaker 1: the lies. This woman just comes from her mouth and

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Speaker 1: she fully expects everybody to believe her. But this is

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Speaker 1: where it all started to take a listen now, friends,

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Speaker 1: KRCR Keith Pappini came home last Wednesday and his wife,

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Speaker 1: Sherry Pappini, was nowhere to be found. In normal days,

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Speaker 1: but learned the children were still at daycare. He found

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Speaker 1: Sherry's phone down the street. That's when I knew she'd been,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, taken or abducted. Now days later, family, friends,

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Speaker 1: the community, and law enforcement are still looking for Sherry.

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Speaker 1: It's the worst thing in the world. It's the worst

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Speaker 1: you're waiting, You're waiting for a phone call. You're waiting

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Speaker 1: Keith is determined to find her. If she was listening,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to say that we're trying the best

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Speaker 1: The family believes she was abducted and has this message

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Speaker 1: I almost made a smart elect crack about waiting, waiting, waiting,

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Speaker 1: whole panel, but let me go first to Joseph Scott Morgan,

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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University and author of Blood Beneath

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Speaker 1: My Feet. He's a star of a brand new hit

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Speaker 1: series called Body Backs with Joseph Scott Morgan on and Elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: It's great, Joe Scott, I remember at the beginning the

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Speaker 1: And not only that, the earbuds were attached with a

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Speaker 1: to Alice and Suddon. This is the woman that sees

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Speaker 1: very very quickly. Her face looked I thought her face

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Speaker 1: guessing that what I thought was dirt on her face

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Speaker 1: Peppini seemingly disappeared in November of twenty sixteen, reappearing three

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Speaker 1: weeks later badly injured, claiming she was abducted by two

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Speaker 1: else you know, do doctor Angela Arnold. We're making light

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Speaker 1: of it because we know Sherry Pepine. He's a big

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Speaker 1: their lives. But mommy went missing and she faked the

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Speaker 1: whole thing well, and I think, how can you do

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Speaker 1: is Nancy, what are they ever going to believe? What

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Speaker 1: their lives again? She has left them all with this

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Speaker 1: able to believe she is cried wolf. They're not going

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Speaker 1: doddor Angie, Doctor Angie, you've got to hear her words

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Speaker 1: from the horse's mouth. Doctor angel La Arnold with me

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Speaker 1: renowned psychiatrists out of Atlanta at angela Arnold md dot com. Guys,

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Speaker 1: take a listen to Sherry Peppini, so called super Mom,

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Speaker 1: describing the chain the two Hispanic women. Remember, guys, they

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Speaker 1: didn't exist. She nearly got women arrested. They kind of

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Speaker 1: fit her fate composite. The imaginary Hispanic women placed imaginary

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Speaker 1: held against her will by two fictitious women. There was

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Speaker 1: were affixed to? The tether? Was it like a robe?

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Speaker 1: a complete fabrication. Wow. Time Stories with Nancy Grace. You know.

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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick joining me. Veteran California prosecutor, author of Red

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Speaker 1: Flags on Amazon. She's at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com.

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Speaker 1: She's the host of It Today with Doctor Wendy KCBQ. Wendy,

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Speaker 1: thanks for making time to be with us. You know,

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Speaker 1: I always look for stories. If I'm deciding about credibility

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Speaker 1: it's a motion to suppress, whether it's some other sort

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Speaker 1: when you're trying cases. But long story short, I look

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why long pause? Car problems? What kind of problem? Flat?

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Speaker 1: Where are you? Big long pause? Or like wait, weren't

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Speaker 1: you taken in uber this week? Big bigger pause? So

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Speaker 1: if you question, and you're looking for detail. It's not

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Speaker 1: And you know, Nancy, that really was what broke the

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Speaker 1: story for investigators is there was so much detail. There

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Speaker 1: was an overabundance of dramatic detail that actually ended up

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Speaker 1: being suspicious. It wasn't an issue of causing. It was

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Speaker 1: almost an issue of having precreated this hoax, this story

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Speaker 1: as a whole other camera, I'm saying, you hit the

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Speaker 1: nail on the head when you said drama. This is

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Speaker 1: this is a nickname we had from my daughter when

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Speaker 1: she was a little drama tragedy, because there's always a tragedy,

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Speaker 1: like a Greek tragedy going on when she's like two

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Speaker 1: years old. She was always having drama. Sounds like Sherry Peppini.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear more from Sherry Peppini. But what about this rope,

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Speaker 1: over the next six years, investigators would piece together how

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Speaker 1: Peppini had lied about everything from her fictional abduction to

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Speaker 1: eventually leading them to her ex boyfriend James. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: didn't get nack her, you know, I just friend in

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Speaker 1: need asking for and that was that? What did you

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Speaker 1: guess she is scared because she's looking at a cotton

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Speaker 1: three hots behind bars. I'd be scared too. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go to jail. And then she says, um,

427
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Speaker 1: I don't. And then remember she's hysterical, and then suddenly

428
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Speaker 1: she's very calm, says, I don't want you to find her.

429
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Speaker 1: She's playing them like a fiddle, a strati various fiddle.

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Speaker 1: Let me add that in. And then she drags her

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Speaker 1: children into it. The reason I don't want you to

432
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Speaker 1: find her the woman that stood by while I was

433
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Speaker 1: branded and beaten and my nose broken, I was starved.

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Speaker 1: I don't want her to go to jail because she's

435
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Speaker 1: the reason I get to see my children every day. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's hear sixty four one more time. Listen to the

437
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Speaker 1: tonal quality and the dichotomy and her first answers versus

438
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Speaker 1: Suddenly she gets calm an answer. Not to a point

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Speaker 1: where anybody's going to jail yet, or not to a

440
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Speaker 1: point of any anything like that. We're just still at

441
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Speaker 1: the talking stage. We're at the control stage. You seem

442
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: scared of Sharon, scared, But when you don't answer Sherran,

443
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Speaker 1: it makes me concerned because I want to hear a

444
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Speaker 1: sharanswer shot and I want that old understanding to control things.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to find her. We're not going

446
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Speaker 1: to her. She's the reason why that to see the

447
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: children in the day. Gree We're not going to find her. Yeah,

448
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: we're not gonna find her because she's not real joining

449
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Speaker 1: me right now, a private investigator renowned throughout her area,

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Speaker 1: Monica Investigations, joining us out of Omaha. You can find

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Speaker 1: her on Twitter at Monica Monica. How many times have

452
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Speaker 1: you questioned someone, and you just keep asking them questions

453
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: because you know they're lying. And did you see the

454
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: tonal quality of her answers shift? At first she's saying

455
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Speaker 1: I'm stared, and then I meet and second up a

456
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: lot of snout in tears. Then she goes very calmly.

457
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't want you to find her about twenty seconds later,

458
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, she you know, her body language tells us

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Speaker 1: a lot, her voice inflections tell us a lot. And

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Speaker 1: another right, tell me what do you mean by that

461
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: way she's she's so calm and collected. At some point

462
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: she's hysterical. At other points she doesn't look the police officers,

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Speaker 1: the detectives in the eye. Other thing getting back a

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Speaker 1: little bit to the information she's giving. She thinks that

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Speaker 1: she's in control. And she gives so much detail, so

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Speaker 1: much detail, that you'd think that they would be able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, cracks a case follow up, have have leads

468
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Speaker 1: to go on. I've worked so many cases over the years,

469
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Speaker 1: over thirty some years, I've never received this much detail

470
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Speaker 1: from any witness. But yet a little bit of information

471
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: I have gotten has led somewhere in most cases. But

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00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: she gives, you know, volumes of very detailed information and

473
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: it goes nowhere. You know, they yeah, you're right. And

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Speaker 1: what's amazing is they tell her straight up, we've got DNA,

475
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Speaker 1: we have your boyfriend, we've got your boyfriend's cousin who

476
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Speaker 1: will state. They're all stating you were there and you

477
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: lie to them, and she still is not giving it up. Okay, guys,

478
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Speaker 1: listen to this. Now we see a little crack. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen our cut sixty eight at the at the

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Speaker 1: end of everything, once we've you had to have known

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Speaker 1: that this was going to come at some point. What's up?

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Speaker 1: What's talking you guys? Yeah? But then how did we

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Speaker 1: get to coast or egon coast Mason. There's a big

484
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Speaker 1: jump in a leap from talking to then to getting

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Speaker 1: in a car with some put they're getting him a

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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. What I was talking guys, Yeah, but then,

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Speaker 1: how did we get to Coasta Egan? Coasta Mason? How

501
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: there's a big jump in a lead from talking to

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Speaker 1: then to getting in a car with somebody. Put they're

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Speaker 1: getting into a car with somebody because somebody you had

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Speaker 1: a relationship with. He told us about the abortion. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, abortion? What abortion? Dave mac How did I miss? Abortion?

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Speaker 1: What abortion? Get what? They don't go into detail on it, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: But what they were trying to do is to push

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Speaker 1: her to letting her know they've talked to this guy,

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00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: they've already gone over what he's told them, and they're

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Speaker 1: telling her that we know that you guys were so

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Speaker 1: close that he knows you had an abortion. That's what

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Speaker 1: they were trying to set up that you're acting like

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Speaker 1: this is women and that James rest is just kind

514
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: of about here in the periphery. But we know who

515
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Speaker 1: he is to you, and we're telling you right off.

516
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Speaker 1: You guys are so close that he knows about your abortion. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: now I get it. Now. Remember she's saying it's my

518
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Speaker 1: fault because I talked to guys. What is that supposed

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Speaker 1: to mean. I talked to guys. I talked to guys

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Speaker 1: every single day of the week. My husband talks to

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Speaker 1: women every single day of the week. How is that

522
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: supposed to get you in trouble? But here we hear

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Speaker 1: more of that. She's still sticking to her life. Don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, our cut sixty nine. My fault that

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Speaker 1: there's fucking to human more fault that I was flirting

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Speaker 1: with other men. It was such a stupid thing. Did

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Speaker 1: you my children with other men are lying to me today? Yes,

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Speaker 1: a crime, big difference telling your story what happened to

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Speaker 1: you isn't a crime. And I know you're scared of

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Speaker 1: what Keith is going to say and do, what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen with you and your family. Those are real concerns,

532
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: but we also need to understand the truth. What about

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00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: her body language? Were you noticing Monique, Well, you know,

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00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: she looks down a lot, She's kind of curled up.

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Speaker 1: She's not confident in what she's saying. She's giving so

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Speaker 1: many different detailed in so many stories that she can't

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Speaker 1: keep some of her stories straight, so they're conflicting, and

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Speaker 1: you know that's a dead giveaway. And when she can't

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Speaker 1: remember something, she said she sleeps a lot. I mean

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Speaker 1: she said she slept when they picked her up. She

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Speaker 1: couldn't give some details about the direction the car may

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00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: have gone because she was sleeping. Yet she was just

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00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: supposedly abducted. You know. See another thing that this is

544
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick. Another part of her body language so I

545
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: found striking was she was all she was closed. You know,

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Speaker 1: you talk about opening clothes and who's approachable, and she

547
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Speaker 1: couldn't be more defensive and closed. It was almost like

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Speaker 1: the way she curled herself into a ball and her

549
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: arm and her legs were crossed. There was everything about

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Speaker 1: her body language that just transmitted I am stuck on Quarner.

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Speaker 1: She was like an animal in the quarter of a cage.

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Speaker 1: And that is one of the huge tells that really

553
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Speaker 1: was leading these detectives to agree that you know, they

554
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: had all the evidence they needed. This was a staging act.

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00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: This was not something in any part of it that

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Speaker 1: was credible, right, I agree, I agree. I thought her

557
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: body language said a lot. What about the husband, Keith Peppini,

558
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Speaker 1: who has stood by her from the get gotta take

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Speaker 1: a listen to our cut seventy idiot husband had stayed

560
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Speaker 1: around the whole time. I feel like while world upside

561
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Speaker 1: and again, why is that why I'm always getting held

562
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Speaker 1: out of it? Why can't use this? Hit me with it?

563
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Speaker 1: But I did? Yeah, because this happened. You're saying you

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Speaker 1: can't tell me all that. It's still ongoing investiation, so

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to find out answer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's that's the way. Can you help me? Didn't throw

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Speaker 1: me a bone and then go, I mean she made

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Speaker 1: it up? Is that where we're on right? Or are

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Speaker 1: she trying to come over the whole another We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna give an any digital details. Obviously you've heard questions,

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Speaker 1: so you can read through some of those. And I

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Speaker 1: understand you've seen some of the photos, so you know

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Speaker 1: some of the investing. Yeah, we did. Yeah, but you

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Speaker 1: can also notice your reaction compared to her reaction. So,

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Speaker 1: Dave Matt, where does it stand with her husband? Now?

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00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Are they divorced and does she get to see the children? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's going to prison in a couple of weeks, but

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00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: right now they are. I don't know the process. In California,

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Speaker 1: he filed for divorce, Uh several months ago. He um

580
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Speaker 1: wants the children and everything and wants here totally out.

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Speaker 1: So as things sit now, he did walk away. You

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Speaker 1: heard him right there this cut and he walked into

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Speaker 1: that last interview Nancy as the doating husband who believed

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Speaker 1: everything she said. And we're talking an hour and a

585
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: half later. He is gobsmacked. You know, he doesn't he

586
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Speaker 1: didn't know this was going to happen and boom. That's

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Speaker 1: why he says, you know, my whole world has flipped

588
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Speaker 1: upside down again. And then he says, you know you

589
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: just heard he said, well, can you help me throw

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Speaker 1: me a bone? You know she made it up? Is

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Speaker 1: that where we're going? Is she trying to come up

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Speaker 1: with a whole nother story? Now? I mean that's this

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Speaker 1: guy was rocked to his core. Well, he's going for

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Speaker 1: soul custody, and there's a very good chance he may

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Speaker 1: get it. Based on everything that's happened with Sherry Peppini,

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Speaker 1: the so called supermum, It's not the first time a

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Speaker 1: perp has led law enforcement down the garden path. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen to our cut forty seven does the name

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Speaker 1: and Jesse Smilette ring a bell. This is Adriana d

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Speaker 1: As at CBS. They eventually reached this conclusion. N let

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Speaker 1: pay thirty five hundred dollars to stage this attack and

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Speaker 1: draft Chicago's reputation through the mud in the process. Police

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Speaker 1: say Smolette paid brothers Abel and Ola Osandai wrote to

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Speaker 1: stage the attack because he was angry over his salary.

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Speaker 1: The brothers told police Smolett paid them to conduct the attack. Smallett,

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Speaker 1: who has maintained his innocence, was arrested and later charged

607
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Speaker 1: with sixteen felon accounts for line to police. Here's the

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Speaker 1: guy that had so much to lose. He's a star

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Speaker 1: on hit series Empire, beloved by so many viewers. Got

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Speaker 1: it all, a high rise apartment, beautiful clothes, a great car,

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Speaker 1: a loving family. His extended family loved him so much,

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Speaker 1: but he blew it all because he wanted more money

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Speaker 1: and thought this would be a great pr stunt to

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Speaker 1: bring attention to himself, to have himself attacked. It didn't

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Speaker 1: turn out that way when Copps found out the truth.

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Speaker 1: Taking listen oar cut forty nine, Jesse Kirch Today, So

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Speaker 1: Judge James Lynn's ency Smilett to thirty months felony probation,

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Speaker 1: including that jail time, ordering he pay more than one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand dollars in restitution to the City

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Speaker 1: of Chicago and pay the maximum fine twenty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: You've turned your life upside down by your misconduct in Shenanigans.

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Speaker 1: You've destroyed your life as you knew it. As a

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Speaker 1: defiant Smilett was taken into custody last night, his family

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Speaker 1: blasting the judge's decision. He's the reason why folks aren't

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Speaker 1: going to report hate crimes. They're the reason why folks

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Speaker 1: aren't going to report hate crimes. Well, Jesse, Smilett is

627
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Speaker 1: the reason that many people may not believe a real

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Speaker 1: hate crime victim when they emerge because of his lies.

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Speaker 1: So you see Smilett ordered to pay all this restitution

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Speaker 1: back to law enforcement. Well, he's not the first one.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody remember the name Jennifer will Banks, the real

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Speaker 1: life runaway broad. I'd take a listen our cut fifty two.

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Speaker 1: He got off by al No. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how long ago it was. They hadn't got me off

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Speaker 1: here away from here, back on the I mean I

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Speaker 1: could so well, I don't know that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where I am. Okay, and the person I did see

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Speaker 1: was a woman. So again, where's dragging some pretend non

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Speaker 1: existent hispanics into this um? Just like Peppini did? Same

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Speaker 1: thing with will Banks. Take a listen to Tom Reagan

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Speaker 1: WSB in our cut fifty and it turns out that

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Speaker 1: entire story was fabricated. Will Banks told investigators she didn't

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Speaker 1: realize her disappearance had caused such a nationwide fure. This afternoon,

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Speaker 1: she issued a statement that was read by an officer.

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Speaker 1: I respect the fact that that the public deserves a statement,

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Speaker 1: or she's requesting that she would like to speak to

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Speaker 1: her family first. I appreciate the outpouring of prayers and

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Speaker 1: concern and that she has recently become aware of and

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Speaker 1: more from our friends at NBC. The court has determined

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Speaker 1: Jennifer should make amends for all the griefs she's caused.

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Speaker 1: She's been put on two years probation and we'll do

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty hours of some kind of community service.

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Speaker 1: Sixty six thousand dollars worth of law enforcement resources were

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Speaker 1: dedicated to her search over four days. She has paid

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Speaker 1: the City of Duluth more than thirteen thousand dollars for

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Speaker 1: their share of overtime and extra expenses, and will pay

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars more to the Sheriff's office. As

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Speaker 1: far as Sherry Peppini goes, will a jury in the

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Speaker 1: futures say, oh, I don't believe her. Remember what Sherry

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Speaker 1: Peppini did? So Dave Mack Crime online dot com. What

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Speaker 1: is a sentence for Cherry's Peppini and how much restitution

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Speaker 1: is She's set to pay a sentence to eighteen months

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Speaker 1: in jail in prison and restitution of three hundred and

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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars. But the judge mentioned at sentencing who's

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Speaker 1: going to hire her? You know, how is she going

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Speaker 1: to pay this money back? I mean he put it

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Speaker 1: out there that yeah, she's accountable, But I was going

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Speaker 1: to ask you, how does that work out with a

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Speaker 1: convict like Peppini. How is she going to get a

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Speaker 1: job to pay back the money she got. She may

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Speaker 1: get a job, so she'll never pay back the restitution,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure she'll be on to her next lie,

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Speaker 1: probably still saying it never happened, that she was in

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Speaker 1: fact kidnapped and tortured. Another chapter closed Nancy Grace crime story,

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Speaker 1: signing off Goodbye friend,