1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: The following is the production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 3: Yes? 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, November thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 5: episode number sixty seven. 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 4: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 5: We are Alive from the WBC Mortgage Studios at the 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 5: Star presented by LGLG is the world's number one O 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 5: led TV brand for eleven years in counting. See why 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 5: at LG dot com Forward slash o led Evil. How's 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 5: everybody doing today? 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 6: Good? 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: Really good. 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: Let's get the energy up. Let's go, let's do it. 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Let's go really good. 23 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good it's a good day. 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 6: It's a good day. 25 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: We all woke up and we're all healthy and it's 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: a good day. 27 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Right, all right. 28 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 5: We got a lot of stuff're gonna talk about today. We're 29 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 5: gonna talk about it. We're gonna introduce the the Houston Texans. Uh, 30 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 5: we will start with their offense and how they match 31 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 5: up against this Dallas defense. 32 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: I want to start first with just kind of. 33 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 5: A general overview of this team because it's an uncommon 34 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 5: opponent opponent for. 35 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 4: The Dallas Cowboys. 36 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 5: I was looking at it's just some of the basic 37 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: information around. There's six and four obviously. Uh, they're are 38 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: first place in first place in the AFC South. They're 39 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 5: coach by Demico Ryans, who is a For those that 40 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: don't know, he is a defensive coach. Came from San Francisco, 41 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 5: was a defensive coordinator there and the last season he 42 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 5: was with San Francisco at the number one ranked defense 43 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 5: in the NFL. This year they also have the number 44 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 5: three ranked defense in the NFL with the Houston Texas 45 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 5: in only his second. 46 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: Year with that team. 47 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: As I want to go around the table, tell me 48 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: what you think is the thing that you that stands 49 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: out to most to you you as you look at 50 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: this team. 51 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 4: It can be offense or defense. 52 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 5: Just as you look at this Houston Texans team, what 53 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 5: do you think stands out the most to you that 54 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: you would character like if you. 55 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: Had to describe them, how would you describe. 56 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 7: This Texans team, talented youth. This is gonna be a 57 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 7: team that's gonna be around a really long time. And 58 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 7: I guess this is more so a big picture rather 59 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 7: than this game specifically. But you look on both sides 60 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 7: of the ball, and they have talented players who are 61 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 7: young on rookie contracts, who are already taken the league 62 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 7: by storm. You can start with c. J. Stroud, He's 63 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 7: developed a weapon in Tank Dell early on. You have 64 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 7: Will Anderson on the other side of the ball, Jayalen 65 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 7: pe Tree on the other side of the ball, and 66 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 7: they've they've paired these guys with veterans and Stefan Diggs 67 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 7: on the offensive side. Obviously he tours a cl so 68 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 7: it's a little bit different, but Nico Collins as well, 69 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 7: Robert Woods is still a veteran presence in that locker room. 70 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 7: You look on the defensive side, you got Danil Hunter 71 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 7: who's been able to contribute from a pass rush perspective, 72 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 7: as ciz Al Shaier from the linebacking corps. 73 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 8: There, they did a really good job. 74 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: A lot of names. Yeah, that's a lot of talented players. 75 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 7: They did a really good job over the off season 76 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 7: of pairing veterans with some of these young guys to 77 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 7: kind of close in that I guess knowledge gap that 78 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 7: I think at times kind of hindered them last year. 79 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 7: I think they're still figuring things out, and we'll talk 80 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 7: about it today and tomorrow, but overall, you can see 81 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 7: the veteran presence starting to kind of trickle down throughout 82 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 7: these young guys. They're trying to maximize the rookie contract 83 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 7: of c. J. Stroud and Will Anderson. I think they're 84 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 7: doing a great job of it. 85 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: They were a bad team at one time this year 86 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: are just no. No. At one time before one time, 87 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: once before Ryan's got there, they were kind of they 88 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: were a bad team, and they took advantage of people 89 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: needing players. They took advantage of being at the right position, 90 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: placed perfectly in a draft to be able to get picks. 91 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: And as you get picks, to Nick's point, you draft 92 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: and you get young players, and all of a sudden, 93 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: young players too. They've hit on, have done a really, 94 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: really nice job, and now their team's better. They've done 95 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: a good job with the free agency. It's puzzling to 96 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: me how they've allowed their offensive line to be what 97 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: it is though, and we'll get into that today. If 98 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: there's going to be something that's going to hold them 99 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: back from being maybe really one of those upper echelon teams, 100 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: they better figure out their offensive line because they could 101 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: be wasting some opportunities. With their young quarterback Joe Mixon, 102 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: we'll talk about him. He's been a great addition for them. 103 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: But for all the talented stuff that they have on 104 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: defense and all the talent they have at skill position 105 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: at wide receiver, their offensive line could be their downfall 106 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: going forward as they get into the playoffs and or 107 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: try and win the NFC the AFC South. Excuse me, they. 108 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 6: Are a talented team there. 109 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 9: And before we started the show, I was sitting here, 110 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 9: I'm like, I don't care about this counting report. I 111 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 9: don't want to hear about it. It's you know, I 112 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 9: don't care about any other teams at this point. But 113 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 9: you start looking at them and you got to appreciate 114 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 9: some of the that they do have in general, and 115 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 9: also looking at how they've gone through the season. They 116 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 9: don't tend to score a ton of points, like, they 117 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 9: don't go into games where they completely dominate uh the 118 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 9: opposing team, and it just leads me again, my silly. 119 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 6: Me where I always. 120 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 9: Think there is a chance not you know, just for 121 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 9: this weekend two where maybe, just maybe if Cowboys found 122 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 9: the offense finds a way to start scoring some points. 123 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 6: It is a. 124 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 9: Matchup where I think they could potentially put up a 125 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 9: decent battle and come out with the win this weekend. 126 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a feeling that we're going to get 127 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: to their defense tomorrow and it's gonna be or it's 128 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: gonna be Brian's gonna be over going. I can't believe 129 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: that they drafted as many great players as the defense. Yeah, 130 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: and that's that's gonna be the rub. And you know, 131 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: can Dallas. I think Dallas defensively could do some really 132 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: good things against this offense. I think think they can 133 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: depending on what happens at left corner. But again, we'll 134 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: get into all this stuff. I just feel like, though, 135 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: when we sit down and say, okay, well, where where's 136 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: their real big advent, their real big advantage, that's their 137 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: defense over Dallas's offense, especially when you don't have your quarterback, 138 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: you know, and then you have questions along the offensive 139 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: line and you know, what kind of routes are you 140 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: gonna run in this game? Are even gonna be able 141 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: to get open much, you know, with the way that 142 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: they play, So you know that's that's. 143 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 9: Gonna be the stars aligned correctly. Oh on a seven 144 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 9: fifteen pm game, there's always a chance the moon, you 145 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 9: know perfectly? 146 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: Can I go ahead? 147 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 8: Better time? 148 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 6: You got better chances at nighttime? 149 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: I ask you who you're gonna pick on Friday. 150 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: But you know that's the interesting part. 151 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: I think after the point is, after you listen to 152 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 5: the show today, you're gonna walk away being like, maybe 153 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 5: there's a chance, No, there is, And then you're gonna 154 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 5: listen to Mark, You're gonna be like, no, because that's 155 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 5: the way this team is. 156 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: No, it's the way it is. And you to me, 157 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: you're you're So it's such a struggle on offense. You know, 158 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: if you had your offense kind of humming along, I mean, yeah, 159 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't be three and six either, you know, 160 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: you would be you'd be much better. You might be 161 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: like these guys six and four or something like that. 162 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: But you're not. You're you're you know this is going 163 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: to be tough. I know, Nick, and I going to 164 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: tell you today there are ways to take advantage of 165 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: this offensive line if if, if you could keep them 166 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: from running the football. And we last week you played 167 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: against I think you played against a better back last week. 168 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: You know with Sakuon Barkley. Joe Joe Mixon's good player, 169 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: get me wrong, but man, you you find a way 170 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: to control the running, you have a chance on defense 171 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: this week. It's it's you know, it's it's the offense. 172 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: It might be the might be your downfall there. 173 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this. 174 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 5: As I look at the Houston Texans organization and Brian, 175 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: you said it a little earlier where you said they 176 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: once were a bad team. There wasn't even just a 177 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: bad they were a bad organization. They had all kinds 178 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: of problems that went all throughout the organization. 179 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 180 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: And that wasn't that long ago, what five years ago? 181 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: It was a bad way. 182 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: It was in a bad way. 183 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: They had a quarterback in Deshaun Watson who they essentially 184 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: needed to get rid of because of all the off 185 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 5: work and but but the point is you look at that, 186 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: and you look at what they were able to do 187 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 5: in again a relatively short period of time to turn 188 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: it around to be where they are now. It just 189 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: tells you the fickle nature of the NFL. Right, things 190 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: can flip pretty quickly in the NFL if you can 191 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: make the right moves at the right time. And so 192 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: that part, I'm like, hats off to them because I 193 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: thought it was gonna take a lot longer than this 194 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: for them to get back into this kind of position 195 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: where they they are a contender. 196 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick Sirianni, who's the general manager there. Nick was 197 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: about to get fired, I mean him, Bill O'Brien, all 198 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: those guys, I mean, they love you Smith. They were 199 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: they were really not a very good football team, and 200 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden they changed the coach that worked. 201 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: They went out, you know, Nick, all of a sudden 202 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: they hit on a couple of drafts that got them 203 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: back a quarterback. They got a quarterback. They you know, 204 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: everybody was kind of like Levey Smith. If you remember 205 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: that year, Levey Smith wins the last game of the 206 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: year against the Colts and everybody's like going, what the 207 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: hell are you doing? And then up put the second 208 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: overall pick, and then they end up drafting, you know, 209 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 2: Carolina gets the first pick, and then they you know, 210 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: they they take Bryce Young, the Texans take CJ. Stroud, 211 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: Somewhere Levey Smith right now is probably laughing sitting on 212 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: a boat, and can you believe I did that? Won 213 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: the last game. Everybody's pissed off at me, and then 214 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: they got Yeah, I mean he actually left him in 215 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: a better place. So they they've been really fortunate with that. 216 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: They do a really good job in free agency too. 217 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: You know, they go out, they have a good blend, 218 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: they have the right coach, they have the right draft, 219 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: and they have a blend with some free agents that 220 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: they've gotten and that's made their team much better. 221 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a lot of credits to their front office, 222 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 7: Nick Casario and those guys. I think with Demico Ryans 223 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 7: as an influence as well, you can start to see 224 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 7: that influence trickle down. 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See it for yourself at LG dot com. 294 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 9: Slash oled Evil. 295 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: Welcome back to second segment of the Break. 296 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 5: Life in s WBC Mortgage Studios at the start the 297 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 5: segment brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All right, 298 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: let's dive into this Houston offense right now. They are 299 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 5: ranked fifteenth across the league. They are fifteenth and passing, 300 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 5: eighteenth and rushing offense. Let's start first with Nico Collins. 301 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: How much does how is how much is him being 302 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: out because he just got back last week, he'd been 303 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 5: out for several weeks. How much is him being out 304 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 5: affected this offense and their ability to be able to 305 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: move the ball. 306 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 7: I think there's a couple of things here that I 307 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 7: think he'll be able to integrate back into and it'll 308 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 7: help this offense. I'm going to start away from the 309 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 7: receiving game. They love to run Joe Mixon outside, and 310 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 7: it felt like in the beginning whenever or Nico was 311 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 7: out that they were having some trouble finding some running 312 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 7: lanes on the pure outside, trying to find the sideline 313 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 7: and ride the sideline. 314 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 8: His Mixon loves to do that. 315 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 7: Nico's a great blocker and he's able to get out 316 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 7: in front and pave those ways for mixing. Now that's 317 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 7: the run game, the passing game, specifically, Nico's that downfield 318 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 7: threat and whenever they lost him, They lost to Von Diggs. 319 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 8: It made life difficult for CJ. 320 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 7: Stroud because he's having to turn to a guy like 321 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 7: Tank Dell, who Tank is a good receiver. It was 322 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 7: somebody I really liked coming out of Houston a couple 323 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 7: of years ago, but I don't necessarily see him as 324 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 7: somebody who could fight off coverage get open downfield. I 325 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 7: like him in the ten to twenty range, so I 326 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 7: think it gives them that downfield presence a little bit more. 327 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 7: Nico's a little bit more physical. He's a crisprout runner. 328 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say he's the crispist, but he's a crisprout runner. 329 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 7: I think he can make things difficult for this secondary overall. 330 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 7: And we might get into this a little bit more 331 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 7: here in a bit. But Bobby Slowick, they're off it'sive coordinator. 332 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 7: His route concepts make the life really difficult for the secondary, 333 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 7: specifically in the safeties. I will run double routes right 334 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 7: on top of each other, and they will force that 335 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 7: safety to make a split decision, and if you make 336 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 7: the wrong one, Stroud is going to identify it. And 337 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 7: he's one of the most accurate guys in the entire NFL. 338 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 7: Nico Collins does such a good job of being able 339 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 7: to get everybody in line, make sure everybody has the 340 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 7: right assignment, right route, and he does a really good 341 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 7: job of managing that and exploiting those safeties. 342 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got it. With Collins, you got a big 343 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: body guy. It's a six four to two hundred and 344 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: twenty pounds guy. So that makes it very difficult because 345 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: some of his best routes, if you go back and 346 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: watch him, the slants, he cannot. I mean, he is 347 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: hard to defend when he's running the run to the 348 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: those to him, you know, his downfield stuff. I mean, 349 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: all these guys have the ability to get downfield. The thing, 350 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: the funny thing about it is some of the of 351 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: Stroud's downfield passes have resulted in interceptions when they've tried 352 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: to kind of attack that. The thing with Tank Dell though, 353 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: playing and when you look at Dell, Colin's the bigger guy, Dell, 354 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: the smaller guy, Dell the quicker guy. If I kept 355 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: watching him, and it was like polation after completion after 356 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: completion on the crossing routes, you know, the stuff underneath, 357 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: and I was, you know, I was sitting there thinking, man, 358 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: that that is a lot of them. And I went 359 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: and checked on there ten for ten on crossing routes 360 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: with Tank Dell. You know, so here you talk about 361 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: putting pressure on what's the one thing we feel like 362 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: the Dallas maybe has gotten a little bit better. You know, 363 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: we always worry about the safety play with the crossing 364 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: routes or having to carry guys inside, you know. And 365 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: and here's Dell and and they haven't missed the pass 366 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: yet on the outside. We'll see what Like I say 367 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: with Collins, you know, dealing with the hamstring injury and 368 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: all that. I mean that this this will be a 369 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: this will be a really really good test, uh for 370 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: this secondary. And you mentioned also about mixing running the ball. 371 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: He's clearly better running the ball to one side than 372 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: the other, you know. I I just isolated runs and 373 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: I and I was watching left outside, left outside, left outside, 374 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: right outside not so good. 375 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: So if you're down because of the blocking or is 376 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: that because of I think. 377 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: I think Nick has a really really good point. You're 378 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: also luaring me Tunsils over there, Yeah, you know kind 379 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: of helps. Let me tell you Schultz is Schultz is 380 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: about like what he was here. I mean, the thing 381 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: you want to get Schultz in is pass blocking, because 382 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: neither one of these these these tight ends that they 383 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: stay in and block, they're likely likely to give up 384 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: a pressure or a sack. They're that bad at it 385 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: right now. But everything to the left. When you when 386 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: you watch Joe Mixon outside outside, outside, but it's all 387 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: coming to the defense's right side. So how you play 388 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: over there, that's going to Diggs direction too. That ball 389 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: is going to bounce outside, that's Digs. He's going to 390 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: have to play safety's down, linebacker's over. Everybody's going to 391 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: have to rally over there. But you know, how you 392 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: play off the edge off that right side will be 393 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: a big key in this game trying to stop this run. 394 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: It's another team too. If you go and look at 395 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: the metrics of it light box as opposed to the 396 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: eight man boxes and stuff like that. They've had some 397 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: problems mixing's had some problems running against stack boxes with 398 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: eight or more down there. You know, maybe Dallas has 399 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: found a little bit of something with their with their 400 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: you know, eight man game, like from last week when 401 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: they're when they were dealing with Barkley. 402 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Joe Mixon is averaging four point three yards 403 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 5: per attempt and ninety three point six yards per game. 404 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 5: Obviously really good at what he does. One of the 405 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: things that I've I've noticed about him he is a 406 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 5: very physical runner. Yeah, do you think this is a 407 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: bad matchup for Dallas from the standpoint that he is 408 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 5: more in the ilk of a Derrick Henry, a guy 409 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 5: that that that really can be physical. 410 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 16: Uh. 411 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: But at the same time, Dallas, one of their achilles 412 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 5: heels has been that they haven't always been able to 413 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 5: tackle well. And do you think from that standpoint that 414 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 5: this is just a bad matchup for Dallas. 415 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I was watching Joe Mixon run Sunday night, 416 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 7: watching back a couple of games. 417 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 8: I think this is gonna be a tough matchup for them. 418 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 7: It's it's still a team that is trying to figure 419 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 7: out how to tackle and bring down guys, and this 420 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 7: is a guy you can't do that against it. 421 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 8: He's he's gonna fight on those arm tackles. 422 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 7: You need to get a chest on on Joe Mixon, 423 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 7: And with how much they run him outside, yeahs out 424 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 7: of ten, you're gonna have to be making that play 425 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 7: one on one And so you're you're really relying on 426 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 7: guys like Moli Cooker, Donovan Wilson to step up, Eric 427 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 7: Kendricks to step up and make those one on one tackles. 428 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 7: We saw each of those guys miss some critical tackles 429 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 7: in that game against Philadelphia throughout the season. 430 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: Where this is going to come down though, with with 431 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: mixing is if the ball is going to go to 432 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: the outside. Now we've seen with overshown his ability to 433 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: shoot gaps. 434 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: Yep. 435 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: These guards and we'll get into this offensive line because 436 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: I they have some some of the similar problems that 437 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: Dallas has when it comes to pass blocking, and they 438 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: don't handle twist stunts all that well. And it really 439 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: happens at the guard at the guard spot there. They 440 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: they have they have struggled with offensive lines are defensive 441 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: lines that have moved on them. And you watch that. 442 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: You go back and watch the Packers game. Double a 443 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: gap look down in and a twist from a double 444 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: A gap. What did Dallas had? What three? They got 445 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: three sacks from the double a gap blitz look where 446 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: they walk those guys up in the A gap and 447 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: then drop one or drop two, bring one that Texans 448 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: did not handle that at all against green Bay. Green 449 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: Bay did it several times, a lot of pressure on Stroud. 450 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: He wasn't able to kind of navigate that. So if 451 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: you could find a way, like I say, run throughs, 452 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: run throughs against these guards. If they're gonna try and 453 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: it's trying to stretch you, run throughs you knowing that 454 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: that ball is probably going to come to your right side, 455 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: just be ready to come flying downhill on it and 456 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: make those plays if you can't get him in the backfield. 457 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: He's had some negative runs, you know, if you look 458 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: so they call him stuffed runs. He's had some stuffed runs, 459 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: especially going to that right like I was talking about, 460 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: because I kept seeing everything like he's going to left, 461 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: going to the left, going to the left, everything going to 462 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: the right was a little bit more difficult. But that's 463 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: teams got after them, like being able to win at 464 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. Dallas is gonna have to do 465 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: the same thing if they're gonna want to get this 466 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: ky on the ground. 467 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 6: Me a ball to be positive here, but so not 468 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 6: me being positive. 469 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 9: But although it's for true what you just said about, 470 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 9: we've seen this defense, the Cowboys defense struggle all year long. 471 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 9: Against physical players, physical runners. I think what they showed 472 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 9: last week gives you gives you hope and a little 473 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 9: more positive positivity going into this game because you did 474 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 9: see a Dallas defense being more aggressive, being you know, 475 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 9: playing in that way. With Micah's return, I think it 476 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 9: helps a lot what happens there with Mica Now with 477 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 9: what overshown showed as well, it's a trigger effect where 478 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,239 Speaker 9: everybody else around around you starts playing a little bit 479 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 9: better at higher level. Yeah, it's definitely gonna be a challenge, 480 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 9: but at least we saw a little sign of hope 481 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 9: there too, where maybe this is a game where starting 482 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 9: off they can compete a little bit. 483 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: They played against the better offensive line last week and 484 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: held their own in the run game, yep, my opinion. 485 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: Ye, when they give sixty six yards to say. 486 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: On the running quarterback was a problem. You know, that 487 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: was the ability to you know, they pin guys they've 488 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: got when Dallas plays, When Dallas plays out of position, 489 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: Dallas gives up huge place. You can see it, four 490 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: guys covering three. Nett leaves the quarterback a wide open 491 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: run for twenty something yards. 492 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 6: He strout is he he can run? 493 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? But the thing about is this guy will run 494 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: into some sacks. Yeah, he will like go back and 495 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: like his eyes are downfield and he will just start 496 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: to move and it's like he doesn't feel the defender 497 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: right there. 498 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 7: I'll give him credit, though, because he moves around in 499 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 7: the pocket way more than some young quarterbacks, right. And 500 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 7: I think that that's just coming with the sophomore slump 501 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 7: aspect of it, because I think there's a lot to 502 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 7: talk about with c. J. 503 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 8: Stroud. I think it's an interesting case study this year specifically. 504 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 7: But he moves around in that pocket so much, even 505 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 7: sometimes when there's not pressure. 506 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 8: So I'll give you that. 507 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 7: But he loves to step into a throw right if 508 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 7: he can step up into basically his center throw a 509 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 7: past ten fifteen yards down the field, that's what he 510 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 7: wants to do. 511 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: Shaq Mason, the guard's giving up ten sacks. M I 512 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: mean that's think about that, Yeah, think about that. I mean, 513 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 2: that's that's that's problem. You know, that's they've given up 514 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: twist stunts and you know there's been all kinds of 515 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: things going on inside. I think that wasn't a misprint 516 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: on that number. I mean, am I check me on 517 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: that to make sure. 518 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 8: That I got you, PFF has a different number what 519 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 8: I want to. 520 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: What do they think it at five? They have five? Well, 521 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: in our in our metrics and the next gen stuff, 522 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: it was ten, and I was like, going. 523 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: What number ten to be that? 524 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 7: Because the PFF sometimes can be a little different when 525 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 7: it comes to. 526 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: A I was going through the sacks and I saw 527 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: ten and I thought, man, that is a lot. And 528 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: then you watch there's like thirty eight of them and 529 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: he's involved in a lot of them. Yeah, like the 530 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: twist stunt stuff and all that. So yeah, I mean 531 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: it's to me, you know. And last week they tried uh, 532 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: Juice Scrugs as the as the the guard as the 533 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: guard at left guard and Jared Patterson played center. So 534 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: they've kind of had to move some guys around a 535 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: little bit to try and make some things, to make 536 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: some things up here. But yeah, when I saw that 537 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: number of sacks for Mace, I'm like, Okay. Then I 538 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: started watching and I'm like, damn, that's seems like an 539 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: awful lot of sacks for a guy. 540 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 8: It looks like it's closer to your number. 541 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, Yeah, And the reason they've had to move 542 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 7: that offensive line around in the in the middle, there 543 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 7: was Kenyon Green going down their left guard, so they 544 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 7: moved Jewe Scruggs to the left, bring in Jared Patterson 545 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: to kind of fill that middle. 546 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 8: I like Patterson. 547 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 7: I don't necessarily love him in the run game, but 548 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 7: I think he's I think he's a. 549 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 8: Solid pass protector. 550 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 7: I think obviously the combination of Juwe Scrugs and Kenyon 551 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 7: Green a center left guard is better than Jared Patterson 552 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: jew Scruggs, but I think they have a serviceable backup 553 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 7: center there. 554 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: Their tackles. How did you feel about their tackle play? 555 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: Because I saw with with with with with Howard the 556 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: right tackle, like people walking him. Yeah, yeah, you know, 557 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: I mean. And then Laramie Tunsel, who forever has been 558 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: this high level player. You know, there's been times where 559 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: he's given up some he's given up some some pressures, 560 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: a lot of pressures. So between Tunsall, Shaq, Mason Howard, 561 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: there's your hope that Dallas showed last week that maybe 562 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: the past Russia circling back. And what gave me more 563 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: hope is when I watch what Green Bay did to him, 564 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: blitzing him with that that that double a gap look 565 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: that Zimmer likes to throw with the two rushers and 566 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: then or you know, one rusher to drop or to 567 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: go one drop, Twist that thing up, muddy that thing 568 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: up a little bit more inside, because like you said, 569 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: Nick quarterback is like a step up and throw guy. 570 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: You could you can maybe get him to step right 571 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: into a sack because there's been been a few of 572 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: them I saw watching the tape. 573 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 8: Reality, he's taking some big hits as a result of 574 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 8: him doing that too. 575 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 5: That was all And the real reality is if Dallas 576 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: has a shout of shot of winning this game, I 577 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 5: think a lot of that's gonna have to be on 578 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: the defense actually getting turnovers maybe even right that's my point. 579 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 5: With the offense having the issues that they're having, really 580 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 5: they're gonna have to have a short feel or the 581 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 5: defense is gonna have to score in some instances. And 582 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 5: I think that's where you could start seeing a possibility 583 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 5: that Dallas could figure out a way to get a win. 584 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: It will have to be the defense having he stuff 585 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: day and basically taking the ball away. 586 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 7: This offense to give it credit. It puts pressure on 587 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 7: all aspects of the defense. I think you look at 588 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 7: an offense like the Lions. Me personally, I feel like 589 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 7: it really challenges the middle of your offense. Excuse me, 590 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 7: the middle of your defense. They're going to run the ball, 591 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 7: They're going to bring Laporto over the middle on the 592 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 7: Ross Saint Brown, let's come a Carson middle of the field. 593 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 7: Eagles are a little bit more spread out. But the Texans, 594 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 7: they will challenge your corners, they will challenge your safeties, 595 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 7: They'll challenge your linebackers. I feel like more than any 596 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 7: other position group. With the way mixing runs, with the 597 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 7: way they like to get Dalton schultzo be and taking 598 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 7: Dell open over the middle of the field in those 599 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 7: crossing routes, it's going to make life really difficult for 600 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: your entire defense. But I think the linebackers are the 601 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 7: ones that if they're not playing their assignments right, this 602 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 7: is going to get ugly. 603 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: You mentioned Dalton Schultz, how much they use him at 604 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: tight end. 605 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: He's getting quite a bit. And when he still with 606 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz, it's like the routes that you see him catch, 607 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: the flat routes, the out routes, things like that that 608 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: he's able to kind of he will get lost and 609 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: then they'll find him. So yeah, he still catches the 610 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: ball very very well for you guys. 611 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 7: For the Texans, twenty nine receptions for three hundred and 612 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 7: ten yards hasn't scored so far this ye yeah, all. 613 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: Right, let's go ahead and take our final break. 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Back to the break. 677 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 6: At and T connecting changes everything. 678 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 8: It does really good at that. 679 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's good stuff. 680 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 681 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: Final segment of the Break livee in thats WBC Mortgage 682 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 5: Studios at the Star. 683 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 4: We're talking Cowboys versus Texans. 684 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 5: Man, this is gonna be an interesting game and interesting weekend. 685 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 5: There's a bunch of fans from Houston that are going to. 686 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: Be tuned in for this one and probably show up. 687 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 6: What do you mean, who am I rooting for this weekend? 688 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: I have not been a Houston fan since the Oilers left. 689 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: I that was the last time I was a fan. 690 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 5: I am still I am still a fan of the Rockets, 691 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 5: and I will forever be a fan of the Rockets 692 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 5: because I'm just a keen fan, so I'll always be 693 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 5: a fan of the Rockets. But when the Oilers left, Yeah, 694 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: my my allegiance to Houston was gone. 695 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: From a football you. 696 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 8: Got a lot of family and friends that are Texans fans. 697 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: Not as many. 698 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 5: Most of them have transitioned over to to being Cowboys 699 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: fans because of me. But I do have some that 700 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 5: are still Texans fans. I got a few coming up 701 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 5: this week for the game. So yeah, it's it's an interesting, 702 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: interesting time. We'll see how it goes. Let's talk about 703 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 5: this Dallas defense right now. With what you've seen from 704 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 5: Kaylen Carson and looking at how he played in this 705 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 5: last game. Dallas made the move to take him out 706 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 5: at one point during that game. Do you think it's 707 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 5: at a point now where they need to just kind 708 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 5: of move on from him for the rest of this 709 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: year as far as having him out there as a 710 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: starter and go with another option just so he can, 711 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 5: more than anything else, just kind of keep his head 712 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 5: from getting in a bad place. 713 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 6: Wow, he didn't listen to yesterday show. 714 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 4: I guess what did you say something about that? 715 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 6: We kind of talked about it, right, did you all? 716 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 16: Right? 717 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 5: Well, for the for the sake of me and those 718 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 5: that may not have listened, I was in meetings. 719 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: If I could listen, I would have been. 720 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 9: Here, but we didn't get to the that far out 721 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 9: like we've talked about it just for now now necessarily 722 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 9: for the rest of the season. 723 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 724 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I'm just thinking, like for a young 725 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 5: guy like him, I think we all agree the guy 726 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: has some talent. 727 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: He's not a bad player. 728 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 5: He's put on films some bad moments, and I think 729 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 5: sometimes for a young guy, it can be a good 730 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 5: thing to tell him, hey, just sit for a second, 731 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 5: let's just watch learn and for more than anything else, 732 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: just to keep him from getting into such a bad 733 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: place to where you ruin him for the future. Do 734 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: you think it's at that point for somebody like Kayln Carson. 735 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 8: I'll answer your question. 736 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 7: I think one of the things that stunned his growth 737 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 7: the most was going up against the receiving court training 738 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 7: camp that is just simply non talented. And he built 739 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 7: a lot of confidence against the receiving corps that has 740 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 7: not really shown that they are worthy of being, you know, 741 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 7: one of the better ones even in the division, much 742 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 7: less the entire NFL. And you see the very first 743 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 7: preseason game against the Rams, they start attacking Kayln Carson. 744 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 7: If you remember, Kayln Carson not have a good day 745 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 7: that day. Yeah, they're just going at him. 746 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: Going at him. 747 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 7: We're like, oh, you know, Kayln Carson has been great 748 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 7: in camp. You know these days are going to come. 749 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 7: Little did we know those were the days? You know, 750 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 7: so I think getting Israel mcwuamu starting moving forward. I 751 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 7: think it's a better move. I think Carson needs to 752 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 7: build back his confidence. 753 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: I think I would shuffle him. What I would do 754 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: is maybe if mcwama would play two series or whatever, 755 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: and you know, you're really this thing's not going anywhere. 756 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it is, that's my opinion. 757 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: But what I would do is maybe mcwama. You getting 758 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 2: a point in time of a game. You know, teams 759 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: will game plan knowing that twenty one's out there. So 760 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, it's twenty four, it's 761 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: twenty four. It's twenty four. Oh wait, twenty one's out there. 762 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: You know. Now you're kind of what do we need 763 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: to get to it? Now? You're maybe maybe with the 764 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: flow of the game, things have kind of maybe your 765 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: pass rush is getting home. You know, maybe you're causing 766 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: some you know, some pressures and things like that. I 767 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: don't completely just sit him down. I like, you know, 768 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: you know you want to play him twice, you know too, 769 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: and two times in the first half, two times in 770 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: the second half. But just keep him, keep him occupied, 771 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: don't don't put him in time out. You know, he 772 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: needs reps, you know. Yeah, they're attacking him. Yeah, he's 773 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: not real confident. Yeah, his shoulder hurts. Yeah, he's worried 774 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: about getting hurt again. You know. I mean there's a 775 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: lot of things going on. The double moves, I mean, 776 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: the more this season is what it is. You know, 777 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: go out there and just let him get more experience 778 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: and let him take his lumps, which he has. But 779 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: you never know, maybe he'll show up one day and 780 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: it'll have some success a series to a series, and 781 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: you know, he gets a little bit more confidence about 782 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: I just don't sit him down. I mean, if you 783 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: want to start MCWAMU, you need to figure out what 784 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: to deal with Bland. But that might be too late 785 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: to even you know, think about that. That might be 786 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: something that might be the you know, that might be 787 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: a whole season thing. I don't know. I'm just putting 788 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: it out there right now. But but to me, it's, 789 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: you know, I keep playing the kid, but alternate him 790 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: maybe you know once every third series or something. Put 791 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: him out there and let him get a little bit 792 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: more experienced. You know, you don't have to do it 793 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: in the games on the line or anything, or right 794 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: before the half that they're trying to stop a two 795 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: minute drive, but you know, coming out of the half 796 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 2: or something like that, just go with him and see, 797 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: you know, give him, give him a little bit more 798 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: of an opportunity. 799 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, I completely agree. I've said this before. I still 800 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 9: like him, and I think they're a lot more to 801 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 9: him than what he's currently showing. And I also agree 802 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 9: with him needing that mental break where he comes out 803 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 9: and okay it doesn't because it can really damage a player, 804 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 9: the mental aspect of it, when you're constantly getting attacked and. 805 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 4: Beat down, especially corner. 806 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, and with him being so young too, you know, 807 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 9: so I do think rotate him, throw him in there 808 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 9: for some reps, because at the same time, we know 809 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 9: NFL experience, like game day experience. 810 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 6: That's very difficult to come by. 811 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 9: So with the way the season is going currently, you're 812 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 9: not gonna lose much the way it's trending, you're not 813 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 9: gonna lose much by actually throwing him out there and 814 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 9: letting him play some more. 815 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: Don't let his don't let his going into twenty twenty 816 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: five be that question of well, you man, it was 817 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: really rough for you last year. You know, maybe you 818 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 2: can find some successful. You're you're three and six team 819 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: right now. You're really you know, you're looking at everybody 820 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: above you. You know, you're to the old thing. You're 821 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: as that old box. It says playoff picture in the hunt. 822 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: You're not even in the hunt. You're out of the hunt. 823 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 2: So don't you know, don't don't sit there and just say, well, 824 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: he just had a lot, No, you're you're not a 825 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: good football team, and just give him an opportunity to 826 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: try and kind of work his way out of it. 827 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: That when you know he gets ready for the off season, 828 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: it's like maybe he had a couple of plays where 829 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: he had some success. He maybe got an interception, somebody 830 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: over threw a ball or they tipped it up and 831 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 2: he got it, or something where he can at least 832 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 2: feel good going in the off season that he did 833 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: something the right way, not completely the wrong way. 834 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: Duke twenty two on x X asked any word on Bland, 835 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 5: and I'll take that question a little bit further. Do 836 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 5: you think it gets to a point at some point 837 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 5: this season if he hasn't returned to where maybe they 838 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 5: look at, hey, we could put him on IR and 839 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 5: you could bring up someone like a Josh Butler or 840 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 5: a chemen hall where you now get a chance to 841 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 5: evaluate some of those guys as opposed to just kind 842 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 5: of holding on to the hope that he comes back. 843 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 7: Doesn't sound like he's in a better spot this week 844 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 7: than he was last week. As far as your second 845 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 7: question there, that's a tough one because if you put 846 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 7: him on IRI, it's obviously out for four weeks. 847 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 5: I think if you did that, you'd be saying probably 848 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 5: just we're gonna sit him for the year, and. 849 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 7: You're also giving and you're also giving up on on 850 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 7: what the what the season has ahead. And while there's 851 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 7: a lot of people on that side of the building 852 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 7: who have not given up on that, what I expect 853 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 7: him to know exactly, and I think if they want 854 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 7: to have Bland back in case that they are able 855 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 7: to put together a run. 856 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: No, you get it right? 857 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, real quick? 858 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 5: Michael Parson's return last week. Give me an assessment on 859 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 5: what you think he looked like last week, and and 860 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 5: not just obviously we saw the big splash plays, but 861 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 5: overall looking at everything else, how would you assess his play? 862 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: The defense has some jump when he's in there, you 863 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like he like they they double 864 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: team him, and it allows somebody else to come around 865 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: and get a pressure unblocked or one on one or 866 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, it makes Osa better, It makes everybody in 867 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: that it made you know, it made Carl Lawson better, 868 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: It made it made over shown better. You know. It 869 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: just the defense was did a really nice job. I 870 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 2: mean they and like I say, they start the second 871 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: half and get a three and out, you know, and 872 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: what do you do on offense? You three and out? 873 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 2: It just right back to them, you know, I mean 874 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 2: this defense with him out there, they they they looked 875 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: like an NFL defense, you know, they got after they pressured. 876 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 2: They they had some mistakes because of what's going on 877 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 2: at left corner. But he he's a difference maker. There's 878 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: just no question about that. 879 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, the defense eventually broke. They were bending and bending 880 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 7: and then eventually broke there in the second half. But 881 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 7: I think from rush perspective, when Michael Parsons is on 882 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 7: the field, it is a trickle down effect for everybody. 883 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 7: I actually asked Mike Zimmer about that on Monday, and 884 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 7: he feels the same way. He kind of gave me 885 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 7: was like, well, it's our best, it's our best pass rusher. 886 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 7: Of course he's gonna help everybody else, So. 887 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 8: It's it's a dumb ass. 888 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably said, yeah, dumb ass. He said that 889 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: to me before. Yeah, dumb ass, And I keep saying that, 890 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: but I've heard that before. 891 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 9: But it was it was still impressive the fact that 892 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 9: he had been out for that amount of time and 893 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 9: felt like he didn't necessarily miss miss a beat like 894 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 9: he went in there. And we also talked about in 895 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 9: your breakdown Brian the prior week heading into the game, 896 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 9: how the Eagles have some time been able to manage 897 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 9: him and kind of mentally drive him a little nuts 898 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 9: at times and. 899 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 6: And frustrate him. 900 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 9: And we know we've seen it before when he gets 901 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 9: frustrated and messes up his game and all of that. 902 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 9: And I think, uh, he was able to go in 903 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 9: there and handle everything and once again goes to show 904 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 9: and this works in his favor for whatever else is 905 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 9: going to happen for his future. It shows how valuable 906 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 9: a guy like him is to this defense. 907 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: The thing going into this week, and I know about 908 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: you guys, I saw the defense try something, you know, 909 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: I saw them try to do something that and I 910 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: mean do something by hey, we're not gonna play the 911 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: same scheme that we've been playing. We're gonna try and 912 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 2: play the run a little different. We're gonna try and 913 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 2: rush the passer and be more. Parsons had a lot 914 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: to do with that. They were able to kind of 915 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: do some things. You know, we our show talked about, Hey, 916 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: we'd love to see overshown rush that got him. We 917 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: saw that could have been three sacks in the half 918 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: right there from that rush. That's I'm just asking the 919 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 2: offense to try and do the same thing. If we're 920 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: gonna if we're gonna watch losing football, please give me 921 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 2: a reason to say, you know what, they tried this, 922 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: and you know what, for half the game it really 923 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: worked out well. They ran out of gas. Offense, Please 924 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: just try something different. Try try if it's if it's 925 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: put Trey Lanson in the second series of the game, 926 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: if it's something that you know, if it's something, just 927 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: to give it a spark to where it's not just 928 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: Karth even said it on Monday, he goes, what's second 929 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: half of football was hard? Now? Some of the hardest football. Okay, sir, 930 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 2: you're the play caller, you know, I know you don't 931 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: have all your guys. But you're the play caller, you know, 932 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: don't tell me how hard it is. Figure it out. 933 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: Figure out something like Zimmer's over there dying with the 934 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: left corner that's not ready to play. But so what 935 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: he's having to do double a gap, blitz, he's putting 936 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: Leo foul out there, he's making overshown a rusher, he's 937 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: you know, he's doing different things. If you're gonna die 938 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: that way, die fighting, don't just die throwing hitches and 939 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: stick routes. Well, no, that's just yeah, but that's what 940 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: you watch the games and you're we're sitting in the 941 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: press box. What do we do? We die? We watch it, 942 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: we die. We just like football die. We just oh man, 943 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 2: you know. But when they come out blitzing and sacking, 944 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: hurts and stuff, it gives us football life. You know. 945 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: We're like, yeah, here we go. That's that's what we 946 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: need right there. And then the offense, it's. 947 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, a good A good example of that, Brian is 948 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 5: you look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers right now. They 949 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 5: lost both their top two offensive weapons are two receivers, 950 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 5: and they are still every week very very competitive against Quarterbacke. Yeah, 951 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 5: because they keep just figuring out ways to be in 952 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 5: the game. And by the way they they probably are 953 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 5: not going to go anywhere this year. But the fact 954 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 5: is there's still a team that's very competitive because they're 955 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 5: just still fighting in that way. And that's what you 956 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 5: saw in the first half from Dallas. I think last 957 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 5: week it just fell apart in second half. But that's 958 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 5: what I want to see. I want to see that fight, 959 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 5: regardless of what the outcome is. I want to see 960 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 5: that fight. And I want to see you trying something different, 961 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 5: something different. 962 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 8: You want to see something different. 963 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 7: The different this week will be Jonathan Mingo, and then 964 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 7: we'll be talking about the very exact same thing next week. 965 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: Oh so you're saying Mingo will be involved. 966 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: It'll be the different, that'll be the different, that they'll 967 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 4: make it different. 968 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: But am I wrong? I mean, and you're like and 969 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: you're like looking at the game and you're going, damn 970 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: that I've seen this before. 971 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 7: I've been talking about creativity in this offense, needing it 972 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 7: to happen, since I feel like at times year and 973 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 7: even when they need it the most, Oh, you can't 974 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 7: throw it out. 975 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 9: An illustration of what it was like me at the game, 976 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 9: sitting there, computer, sitting there, my computer, doing other stuff 977 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 9: that I need to do, and then all of a 978 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 9: sudden they get ustacked and I'm like, oh my god, 979 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 9: oh my god, hold on, I can't find the freaking 980 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 9: graphic because I did not have it ready because I 981 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 9: expect that to happen necessarily so and it was exciting 982 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 9: to your point. 983 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: And if we're not, if we're gonna be you know, 984 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: out manned, out gunned, all that stuff, come up with 985 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 2: something that like, man, they they're not they're not good 986 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: at doing this. You know. The other team they can't 987 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: handle this. Like I say, watch that Green Bay game 988 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 2: and you tell me if they can handle the double 989 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 2: A gap blitz down there an h Town. No, they 990 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 2: can't watch it. It's gonna happen this this Monday. 991 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 8: Night, all right, when does Zimmerson micah, so get. 992 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 2: Ready on that one. That way, Mike is, Mike is 993 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 2: to the point now where he knows he's got game 994 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: just a few games left. Probably he's going to he's 995 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: going to punish. 996 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 7: Somebody specifically, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's coming because we saw 997 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 7: somebody and show get ready send them both through the 998 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 7: hate gap maybe, well yeah, at the same time, but 999 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 7: alternating each of them. 1000 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, appreciate you guys, Jones. So we're back tomorrow. 1001 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 5: We will jump into the Dallas offense versus versus this 1002 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 5: Texans defense. 1003 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 4: Will till then for Nick Harris. 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