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Speaker 5: Here we are Players Lounge, four horsemen coming at you today,
Speaker 5: doing it the last show till training camp. All right,
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Speaker 5: we got. First off, we'll break, got break, I mean,
Speaker 5: get this the break and his dude on the show,
Speaker 5: the difference.
Speaker 2: Gotta enjoy me. Guess how you gonna enjoy life? The
Speaker 2: golf course, very church lined up?
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Speaker 6: I mean so church churches are frequent.
Speaker 5: You know, off this week I'm here, I mean going through.
Speaker 6: We're gonna keep it the.
Speaker 4: Bun is it? The golf course for really? Got you
Speaker 4: take this? Got you so tied up? What is a
Speaker 4: couple of things here?
Speaker 2: And there's definitely there on the priority list.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying.
Speaker 5: Very's blessed by the shod conbat.
Speaker 7: I mean that's like city.
Speaker 5: Everybody should have a shot con and they like, this
Speaker 5: is true. Man, I want to get a shot. I
Speaker 5: want to I want to meet Shot.
Speaker 2: Late wrestling. You know, some way I can go off
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 7: Still in shape.
Speaker 5: It's our final, our final sho before before uh the
Speaker 5: mini camp ends the day. So you know Shot, he's
Speaker 5: talking today, Dak is going to talk today and then
Speaker 5: they're gonna get off to the training camp in July.
Speaker 5: Late July auction our California here. So all three of
Speaker 5: you guys have played in the league here and I
Speaker 5: asked George Pickens yesterday, you know, what are you gonna
Speaker 5: do with the time?
Speaker 6: So I'm just relaxed. What is relaxing meaning? What does
Speaker 6: it mean? So for you guys, take tell our.
Speaker 5: Viewers and listeners, what did you do after many camp
Speaker 5: was done and you get this final break before you
Speaker 5: hit camp in July?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 8: Well, for me it was I traveled, you know, as
Speaker 8: soon as camp was done.
Speaker 4: OTAs all that stuff, man, wear you down a little bit.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 8: It ain't the pass and nothing physical like that, but
Speaker 8: just you know, being at meetings Hot Texas, Son, I traveled,
Speaker 8: you know that first week you know, me and a
Speaker 8: wife or whatever, go do our thing. But when we
Speaker 8: got back, it was I wouldn't say it was relaxing,
Speaker 8: but I still, you know, it was grinding a little bit,
Speaker 8: working out here and there, but not making sure my
Speaker 8: body was ready for any camp coming around, because we
Speaker 8: all know when you get up there in that training
Speaker 8: camp in them paths and back then it was two days.
Speaker 7: I don't know, I.
Speaker 2: Got a little difference, totally different, but yeah, I made sure,
Speaker 2: you know, I kept in shape, made sure, you know,
Speaker 2: my lungs and everything was cool. But for the most part,
Speaker 2: I definitely took a little break from football because you
Speaker 2: think about it, man.
Speaker 4: You're going from season all the way.
Speaker 8: You get you know, a couple months in our off season,
Speaker 8: you know, February, whatever the case may be. But after
Speaker 8: that you right back in the grind. So I had
Speaker 8: to make sure I cleared my mind a little bit.
Speaker 2: For me, I probably took I probably took maybe the
Speaker 2: first week off of something. I go home, and I
Speaker 2: was a big family guy, so I'm going home, like
Speaker 2: it took me a while before my first few years
Speaker 2: to buy the house in the league.
Speaker 7: Like it was me and my mom, my sister, my.
Speaker 2: Girlfriend who's turning to my wife now to where we
Speaker 2: sat there, and like we were in Dallas. So for
Speaker 2: that week or two, we did cookouts, we did crawfish ball,
Speaker 2: we actually just kicked it and had like a good
Speaker 2: family time. And then after that, like you know, about
Speaker 2: a week and a half of getting it in, it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I was back into the mold because going into training
Speaker 2: camp you had it.
Speaker 4: You were you were.
Speaker 7: Getting ready to go to battle.
Speaker 2: Like for me, it was like it was turning on
Speaker 2: this this going toward type of mindset where I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm really getting prepared. So I'm going in there, I'm running,
Speaker 2: I'm making sure my cardio is right because I'll for
Speaker 2: it looks different for everybody. I know some people that
Speaker 2: when they leave training camp it's like, hey, I'm chilling.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything until maybe a week before training
Speaker 2: camp and I'm good. Some athletic dbs that I know that,
Speaker 2: But most of the d line is like it only
Speaker 2: took us like a week to get out of shape,
Speaker 2: so like to go hang out two or three weeks,
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, the athletic ones, you get battle a
Speaker 2: good week and a half, but after that, those next
Speaker 2: three or four weeks. You got to come in there
Speaker 2: on your high horse because it's time to work and
Speaker 2: it's time to go. So for me, that was resting,
Speaker 2: relaxing with family and going from there.
Speaker 6: He said, what you got for me?
Speaker 4: Man? It was like, so I would use the OTAs.
Speaker 10: In the mini camps as a gauge to see on
Speaker 10: certain things that I need to work on or where
Speaker 10: I need to get sharp at. After that was OTA's
Speaker 10: in mini camp, it was like back to the lab,
Speaker 10: you know, because basically you look at it like so
Speaker 10: after that last mini camp, structurally we always said, okay,
Speaker 10: you got to the fourth of July, because after the
Speaker 10: fourth that's when it starts tapering down. You know, you're
Speaker 10: gonna have a couple few weeks outside of that. So
Speaker 10: we would basically get back in the lab and go hard.
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, Okay, like how the mini
Speaker 10: camp look, how the OTA's look, how your feet looking,
Speaker 10: what you need to work on and things like that,
Speaker 10: and we were just trying to get everything straight for that,
Speaker 10: you know.
Speaker 4: And just like what we mentioned earlier.
Speaker 10: We had two a day's back then, so it was
Speaker 10: a whole different type of grind, you know what. I mean,
Speaker 10: and then of course when around the fourth of July
Speaker 10: we would have that big cookout you normally got family
Speaker 10: reunions and stuff like that, and so then that's when
Speaker 10: we would actually start to taper off just a little
Speaker 10: bit to make sure that we weren't as fatigued and
Speaker 10: your body was like you know, I guess in that
Speaker 10: second phase of trying to go to that.
Speaker 4: Before you peak or whatever else.
Speaker 10: Right, so if you want to try to chill out
Speaker 10: a little bit, let the body relax, make sure everything
Speaker 10: is healed up, because you don't want to go in
Speaker 10: the camp too sore anythings like that. But we always
Speaker 10: use that last part of the mini camp and those
Speaker 10: ot as before, you know, before the season started to
Speaker 10: see where we were at.
Speaker 7: So let me get this straight.
Speaker 2: You said that basically ot AS was that was just
Speaker 2: the size of mode.
Speaker 7: Like you just came in here and looked up at
Speaker 7: Barry and.
Speaker 6: Was like, oh yeah, training camp to.
Speaker 4: Try and see what's going on.
Speaker 10: And every shop, you know, like every year you gotta trigger,
Speaker 10: You got to figure out something every day that you're
Speaker 10: going to work on, because you know, if that if
Speaker 10: you're looking like you're reaching that ceiling where they gotta.
Speaker 4: Find somebody else, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: So you got to keep on coming there with something
Speaker 10: to work on, something to show, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So you gotta stay hungry all the time. And that
Speaker 4: was just my approach.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm gonna throw this back at you guys
Speaker 5: again because what some young folks, younger people who don't
Speaker 5: understand how the NFL has changed what to a days?
Speaker 6: Needs man break it down.
Speaker 7: Oh let me let me.
Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and get this cause I'm the
Speaker 2: youngest one out of all of them. I did get
Speaker 2: the experience too a days, but I didn't have the
Speaker 2: two days where you have practice full pass to a day.
Speaker 2: I heard about those talking to the Plexico justin Tuck
Speaker 2: back in the day, you know, you come into the
Speaker 2: locker room. They I'm like, well, you're talking about we
Speaker 2: do got two days, Like in the morning, were coming
Speaker 2: in their hellmets running doing like full scripted periods. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about like an hour worth of work. And back
Speaker 2: in the day Kaughlin made you work. You're gonna get
Speaker 2: his money's work. And so then after that it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: all right, let me go in here and take a
Speaker 2: little break, let me eat all y'all complain about two days,
Speaker 2: the next one we're coming out there and pass. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that was a grind within itself, within
Speaker 2: the right organization, because going to Jack del Rio to
Speaker 2: a days now you go to a Pete Carroll to
Speaker 2: to day that might you know, you might not be
Speaker 2: as physically demanding on the body, but mentally it's a
Speaker 2: whole different thing. And so to hear about I can
Speaker 2: only imagine the demand that it took on my body,
Speaker 2: because still mentally, that was a grind to be there
Speaker 2: over twelve hours a day, sitting there going straight from meeting,
Speaker 2: going to practice, running full speed you just don't have
Speaker 2: on pass. And then the next one coming out there
Speaker 2: hitting each other. And then for y'all guys to go
Speaker 2: out there and actually do too full padded practice, that
Speaker 2: was different within itself to where I see why the
Speaker 2: league life span was so short. So for me it
Speaker 2: was it was a grind. Like now you got the restrictions.
Speaker 2: Even when I came in, you had the restriction of
Speaker 2: how many hours you can practice, how many meeting hours
Speaker 2: you can have, And it's up to the coaches discretion
Speaker 2: if they want to take all that or give all
Speaker 2: that off. If you got a veteran team, you know,
Speaker 2: they might cut you a little seleg But most of
Speaker 2: the teams that I was a part of, we were
Speaker 2: all young, but you had certain vets in there to
Speaker 2: where it was taxing mentally physically, And so I can
Speaker 2: only imagine y'all tell me how y'all's were.
Speaker 4: It sucks. I mean it was you got you got
Speaker 4: the to full of full.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: My first two years was the you know, no restrictions.
Speaker 8: You in there for the new CV, before the new CD.
Speaker 8: You was in there no matter what. And my feet
Speaker 8: still hurt to this day.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: And it sucks because you you going early in the morning,
Speaker 2: you running it as a dB.
Speaker 4: We run it all over the place, sweating like crazy.
Speaker 2: And if you didn't have your shoes, and if you
Speaker 2: didn't have your shoes in the right spot to drive off, man,
Speaker 2: you putting your feet back in them soggy cleat small.
Speaker 4: For your second practice. Shoulder pads might be a little damp.
Speaker 2: Still, it's like, and not to mention that, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously we know. The NFL, I'm looking at the camera
Speaker 2: is a non hazing organization. They do not do that,
Speaker 2: but those team bonding moments that you had with the day,
Speaker 2: and that's what say you say that you carry you pass,
Speaker 2: say you don't get somebody they food the right way.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden you got you a long snapper
Speaker 2: that throw your clothing the cold tub and then you
Speaker 2: gotta get it. I'm getting to wear all that. So
Speaker 2: you also had that on your back.
Speaker 4: As well, and it just sucked overall.
Speaker 2: But you know, thank goodness at least for me that
Speaker 2: you know, I was under Uncle Wade for my first
Speaker 2: year and Uncle way Man the more the ultimate players coach,
Speaker 2: he would. I mean sometimes we come back off there
Speaker 2: for for our second padded practice.
Speaker 4: He was just looking around like know what fellas the
Speaker 4: pads off?
Speaker 7: Take them all?
Speaker 4: You know what helmets on? And man, we thought, well
Speaker 4: man granted, because it wasn't nothing like that for me, by.
Speaker 6: The way, real quick what Barry was talking about. But
Speaker 6: Wade was here.
Speaker 5: You know what they called it camp Cupcake complain about camp.
Speaker 5: I was there for the Jimmy practice. I was covered Jimmy.
Speaker 2: That's why I said I don't want no part of
Speaker 2: Rod may Nelli when he used to have a brickyard.
Speaker 2: George I'm like, bro, it's kind of like it was
Speaker 2: over there my first year with the Titans.
Speaker 4: You know. We of course we had Jeff Fisher. He
Speaker 4: was a young coach at the time.
Speaker 10: She was well, you know, and and everything about that
Speaker 10: was just contact and being physical. We had to have
Speaker 10: nasty peers. We called him nasty periods. We had nasty
Speaker 10: periods every day, all right. And then we had this
Speaker 10: thing where even if we just had on uppers, just
Speaker 10: the shelves and helmets, you know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 10: could still get fitted up.
Speaker 4: You can still and so you know.
Speaker 10: So then they would try to get slick with it, right,
Speaker 10: they'd be like, okay, like we're gonna have two day practice,
Speaker 10: but then we're gonna cut off sack because one of
Speaker 10: them two day practices might be a special teams practice.
Speaker 4: Boy what dB ain't on all special teams, but.
Speaker 2: You had to play special teams now, you know, mister
Speaker 2: con money over here.
Speaker 7: After he left the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: We know, I'm just saying, but me myself, there's been
Speaker 2: a spell of my whole career.
Speaker 10: Boy, hey, every day, so you know so, But one
Speaker 10: of the good things about it was that when it
Speaker 10: did change a little bit like, let me tell you something, man,
Speaker 10: because it was tough, like where Barry was talking about
Speaker 10: your shoes, you messed around, had the wrong shoes or
Speaker 10: don't get planning fasci itis like I had.
Speaker 4: My rookie year. It don't matter what shoes you putting on,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: And then and then it's the whole thing of like
Speaker 10: actually back then getting acclimated.
Speaker 7: So figured this.
Speaker 10: You're working out in Texas in this heat in the
Speaker 10: middle of July or wherever you might be in training
Speaker 10: camp with heat in dex of one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 10: on one practice and one hundred on the other one.
Speaker 10: You're talking about hydration, maintaining weight, just all this other
Speaker 10: stuff that goes into it. You know what I'm saying. Then,
Speaker 10: trying to keep this thing right. I was just about
Speaker 10: that right.
Speaker 7: How was I saying? How was that back in the day?
Speaker 2: Because I know for us, I was blessed enough to
Speaker 2: have great as I call him OG's and mentors coming
Speaker 2: in justin tugg a young Jason, Pierre Paul that was
Speaker 2: ball of mathis Ki with Nuka to where these guys
Speaker 2: told me, hey, I have the game plan. It doesn't
Speaker 2: do me no good at keeping this, and they actually
Speaker 2: showed me what to do and they wanted me to
Speaker 2: be better so we can compete.
Speaker 7: I heard back in the day was more exactly.
Speaker 2: It was more people will tell you something wrong, like hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Practice, Like no, they didn't give us the schedule, but
Speaker 2: like it'd be like, hey, come in here. You know
Speaker 2: we're gonna want to wide for I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: right now, with all these blitzes, he really don't run
Speaker 2: that the first week he gonna learn this or learn that,
Speaker 2: but get ready to do this right here because we
Speaker 2: about to hit it. Or hey, individual, pivisual individual period,
Speaker 2: do not mess this up because we do not want
Speaker 2: to go back for you. I'm telling you, he gonna
Speaker 2: throw you a monkey wrench right here. And so for us,
Speaker 2: none of that with him the way, but as nice
Speaker 2: as they were and telling us that, it was a
Speaker 2: certain level of expectancy to where it say, hey, you
Speaker 2: bet not mess up. We gave you everything, so if
Speaker 2: you messed up, that was purely just pissed pore on you.
Speaker 2: And I get it now being the old head. It's
Speaker 2: like looking back, I'm like, wow, that was fortunately, Like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean people told you stuff wrong?
Speaker 10: Like people they would they would tell like so they
Speaker 10: would purposely tell me the wrong stuff to do on defense.
Speaker 4: All right, you gotta understand.
Speaker 10: So you got some old cats and they looking at
Speaker 10: the young boys like number one, that's competition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so if you're coming.
Speaker 2: In there with with you know, with your guns blazing
Speaker 2: and everything else like that, you know, and then and
Speaker 2: then if they telling you the wrong thing, be good.
Speaker 4: Then when your reps come up in film, Oh no, no,
Speaker 4: we don't.
Speaker 2: Even want to watch his reps fast forward and he
Speaker 2: stay here and watch his reps by himself, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: No, it was, it was.
Speaker 4: It was tough.
Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: Don't I'm not about to sit here and say it's
Speaker 2: camp cut kick. As far as me having the great vests,
Speaker 2: I do love them, and they.
Speaker 7: Taught us this thing.
Speaker 2: But it's like you also earned, Joe, just do like
Speaker 2: they had the right balance of treating you like, hey,
Speaker 2: humbling you. We don't care who you are, what you
Speaker 2: came in because that year you had a second round pick,
Speaker 2: in a third round pick in the locker room.
Speaker 7: So as d Lineman. So it was like, hey, we're
Speaker 7: gonna hump.
Speaker 2: Y'all, but we also need to show y'all what's going on,
Speaker 2: because this is professionalism. Like what you do right now
Speaker 2: reflects us, Like we ain't got time to be We
Speaker 2: can't afford to be torturing YouTube right now when we
Speaker 2: just lost last year or we just won last year.
Speaker 2: Oh hey we won, So we're trying to keep this
Speaker 2: going right now, coming off this momentum. So that's why
Speaker 2: I say it's different. You go to Seattle locker room,
Speaker 2: the guys like Cliff April, Richard Sherman, Bobby Wagner, like
Speaker 2: all those guys, they had a certain thing where like
Speaker 2: they can trip on you and you know, kind of
Speaker 2: get that camaraderie boys we boys moment, but also say hey,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we grown men. Let's
Speaker 2: respect you. And then, like I said, you go to
Speaker 2: other organizations. Not gonna call them names out, but you
Speaker 2: had those vets where it was like, bro, yeah, let
Speaker 2: me get outside the.
Speaker 4: He'll fit your line, crossing a.
Speaker 2: Line, don't don't let you get mad at him. And
Speaker 2: he sits there and be like, hey, coach, rookie, get mad.
Speaker 2: Let me get him fine to this.
Speaker 7: And that better. Yeah, you got all these big dogs
Speaker 7: jumping on you. It's like, how we're gonna see.
Speaker 4: How hard you can fight, and it's underestimated.
Speaker 8: Like you was talking about earlier, the mental aspect of
Speaker 8: training camp, I mean that it's almost as hard, if
Speaker 8: not harder than the physical part.
Speaker 6: When are you coming in as a rookie.
Speaker 2: You're trying to learn all these different playbooks and how
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be a professional terminology terminology. And then
Speaker 2: there was times where early in camp, we you know
Speaker 2: about this, were we in San Antonio.
Speaker 8: That was our first before we went to Oxen our
Speaker 8: year round. We was in San Antonio half of the camp,
Speaker 8: and it would be times where you don't even see
Speaker 8: the light of day because you're practicing in an Halohold dome.
Speaker 6: Coming in and.
Speaker 2: It's about thirty six o'clock in the morning, the sun
Speaker 2: an even up. Yet by the time you get out
Speaker 2: of there, it's dark and you're just like, man, what
Speaker 2: did the day go?
Speaker 4: The mental gymnastics you gotta do it camp as a
Speaker 4: young and is wold man as well.
Speaker 5: This was a fun segment guy education for those and
Speaker 5: that's that's that's what the players line is. We're trying
Speaker 5: to give the fans out there inside of what's going
Speaker 5: on here. So all three of you played in the league,
Speaker 5: so this is fascinating. Uh I gotta get to break,
Speaker 5: but fascinating. When we come back, I want you all
Speaker 5: to give me the player you want to be looking
Speaker 5: at a training camp like I need to watch this
Speaker 5: player because I am very interested in what this player
Speaker 5: can bring. Come training camp when it starts at OUK
Speaker 5: start in July.
Speaker 6: We'll do it next.
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Speaker 6: We are one year away from the World Cup coming.
Speaker 4: Wait sweet.
Speaker 5: Matches to be played at at and T Stadium, which
Speaker 5: is the equivalent of having nine Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: It is certain to be something to see. The city
Speaker 2: crazy yes, Oh okay, I'm asking this now. Wait Newly
Speaker 2: and Barry, please take me to your sleep.
Speaker 4: I got hop.
Speaker 5: I gotta get You don't understand who FIFA is. Okay, Fifa,
Speaker 5: FIFA who runs the World Cup? They ain't giving that nothing.
Speaker 5: They don't they don't know, my brother, you know how
Speaker 5: many years? I don't know how many years.
Speaker 4: That's the equivalent that's equivalent to the super Bowl.
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 8: Nine super Bowls coming in and get that team, that
Speaker 8: team I stand or expanding the stadium, buying it because
Speaker 8: you know what, I'm soccer maybe on a thirty deep.
Speaker 5: It's going to be something special here and while the
Speaker 5: final is going to be played up in New York.
Speaker 5: But but nobody's got more matches than Arlington. It's gonna
Speaker 5: have him. So I'm excited about it.
Speaker 4: Deep.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's cool.
Speaker 7: It's revenue to the city. Oh man, yes that beat.
Speaker 5: So another mandatory man, and can wrap this thing up.
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott's talking today, Brian Schottenheimer. It's gonna have his
Speaker 5: take out there. So when we get the Ox, start
Speaker 5: go around the room here all the players games. So
Speaker 5: Anthony Dorsey will start with you. Who's the one player
Speaker 5: you're gonna be looking at a training camp, say, man,
Speaker 5: I gotta keep my eye on.
Speaker 10: You know, I'm gon cheated a little bit, and it's
Speaker 10: not actually gonna be one, it's actually gonna be two.
Speaker 10: I'm looking at these two corners, both of them coming
Speaker 10: back off of some type of injury, you know what
Speaker 10: I mean. I don't know exactly what Diggs is going
Speaker 10: to be able to do in the beginning of the
Speaker 10: season as far as his health. But with Bland coming
Speaker 10: back and he played a little bit last year, but
Speaker 10: like you always say, you take that second year to
Speaker 10: actually get back healthy, to choose and get back healthy.
Speaker 10: So I'm actually gonna be trying to see what's going
Speaker 10: on in that secondary with those corners, man, because the
Speaker 10: years that they had the previous two years before those injuries,
Speaker 10: these dudes was like putting up numbers that were unheard
Speaker 10: of as far as interceptions and shutting down and shutting
Speaker 10: down one side of the field. So I'm really curious
Speaker 10: to see what's gonna happen in the secondary.
Speaker 5: Diggs yesterday spoke in the locker room, so I was
Speaker 5: there justin Diggs was there very much a heated ping
Speaker 5: pong match between competition, j T the rookie from u
Speaker 5: C l A, and Michael Parsons. There was only one
Speaker 5: person in the room cheering for Miikay everybody else. It
Speaker 5: was beautiful to watch. I'm s so glad they let
Speaker 5: us in the media just watch this thing. Shoty was
Speaker 5: in there watching it too. But it was a lot
Speaker 5: of competition. But Dick said he hopes to be back
Speaker 5: for Week one Russia man, and and that was that.
Speaker 5: So overwhelmingly, that's what the fan base rush. Don't rush
Speaker 5: like it's your desires.
Speaker 10: But then realistically, yeah, because see, one of the things
Speaker 10: that people outside the building don't understand is that, like
Speaker 10: there's always pressure for a player to come back and
Speaker 10: get it back on the field, but they don't make
Speaker 10: no exceptions for you getting out there and you're not
Speaker 10: being one hundred percent. So they want you back out there,
Speaker 10: and you feel obligated to get back out there for
Speaker 10: your boys and your team. But if you ain't one
Speaker 10: hundred percent, they gonna hold you accountable to everything that
Speaker 10: happens out there, all right. So yeah, and so like
Speaker 10: just like you said, hey, don't don't don't rush it,
Speaker 10: take your time come back, right.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean like that's like that's something said,
Speaker 2: don't touch hey, don't toush rush more? Who you got
Speaker 2: oh Man? For me, I'm gonna go ahead and piggyback
Speaker 2: off my dog. Mister the dort said, I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: two of them real quick, but I'm gonna make it
Speaker 2: real short and sweet for you. I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: second round picking, this defensive lineman. I want to see
Speaker 2: what the big fellow is gonna do. I've been hearing
Speaker 2: good things people have been talking about here, and we
Speaker 2: all know what Michael is going to do. We pay
Speaker 2: oh so that money, but we need somebody on the
Speaker 2: other side to come over there, and so it starts
Speaker 2: up front.
Speaker 7: I'm biased, D lineman. I need to see what he's
Speaker 7: going to do Boston. Yes, sir, mister.
Speaker 2: S Hey, I love your young fellow, but I need
Speaker 2: to see that as a D lineman, he needs to
Speaker 2: come in there. If like as as new we be
Speaker 2: talking about the lamp and all this stuff and leading
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, I need to see if he
Speaker 2: has that capability. Next, I need to see, Hey, George Picking,
Speaker 2: I've been talking about your sin shit got here, man,
Speaker 2: I've been telling you, I know what's going on with CD.
Speaker 7: I know what's going on with D.
Speaker 2: I'm liking what I'm saying from this running back and
Speaker 2: I'm loving what I'm saying with these reports they're saying
Speaker 2: Picking is being untouchable right now. He's looking good. And
Speaker 2: we all know that during OTAs you have that guy
Speaker 2: that looks good. You have that big off season acquisition
Speaker 2: where it was like, I see why you brought them in.
Speaker 2: Now I want to see if it's gonna transfer over
Speaker 2: when we put these pads on, and if it transferred
Speaker 2: over like that, I told you I'm gonna be on
Speaker 2: that very way where we we got these two guys.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, but I love the reports that
Speaker 2: I'm seeing from him and what he's doing. I just
Speaker 2: want to see if he's going to do it in past,
Speaker 2: which I believe he is. So I need that momentum
Speaker 2: to keep going to have that snowball effect.
Speaker 8: Okay, you know I got I got too as well,
Speaker 8: both in the trenches, Okay, both in the trenches defense
Speaker 8: on the defensive side.
Speaker 4: I gotta see what Mazzie Smith can bring to the table.
Speaker 8: All Right, We've gotta have somebody in there that can
Speaker 8: basically clog up that metal. I mean, Osa, I believe
Speaker 8: he's on the come up. I think he's going to
Speaker 8: keep rising and keep being a better player. But Mazi,
Speaker 8: he's a little inconsistent.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: Rookie year got a little bit better. You know, sometimes
Speaker 8: he got tossed out the club. Then you saw other
Speaker 8: examples where he was he was scouting there.
Speaker 4: I just want him.
Speaker 2: I don't want him to be a flash, no squirrel technique.
Speaker 2: I want to be just be stout there. I don't
Speaker 2: need you to be this, you know big you know,
Speaker 2: guy are Donald, I don't need you to be Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: Just be here so you can take up these you
Speaker 2: can let these linebackers run. So Mazi, you know, hopefully
Speaker 2: he's able to take that leap that we all.
Speaker 4: Hope he can do.
Speaker 7: Saying that because he was drafted high. Now I'm hearing
Speaker 7: good stuff from there.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. I want to.
Speaker 7: That that big Simone kid. I heard he is closing
Speaker 7: up the middle.
Speaker 4: He's a big dude.
Speaker 8: Thought on another day, big big dude, big dude. And
Speaker 8: then my last one, my last one, it's gotta be
Speaker 8: guiding man.
Speaker 4: That the left tackle.
Speaker 8: I mean this offense can be extremely explosive. You talk
Speaker 8: about picking CD lamb what Dak brings to the table,
Speaker 8: but none of that's gonna be able to flow if
Speaker 8: that's always looking over his shoulder, like, man, is this
Speaker 8: guy gonna hit me in the head or what's going on?
Speaker 6: So guy, we gotta see that step. We gotta be
Speaker 6: that guy that can.
Speaker 8: Hold down that blind side for Dak Prescott in order
Speaker 8: for this offense to roll. So for me, both of
Speaker 8: those guys in the trenches, let's take that next time.
Speaker 4: And I'm a firm believer.
Speaker 10: You know, like football ain't changed in years, and everything
Speaker 10: regards from what side of the boy you're on, It
Speaker 10: all starts up front and order for them two boys
Speaker 10: that I said I want to see have success, to
Speaker 10: be successful, y'all boys up front and so's it's a
Speaker 10: big key component.
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer Warren Sap said it. Bet I'll never forget.
Speaker 6: He says, back don't work without the front, Russian cover.
Speaker 4: Front.
Speaker 5: So when you speak of Mazzi, Bill Parcells had a
Speaker 5: great line. He said he got from from Tom Landry.
Speaker 5: By year three, we got to see something. And this
Speaker 5: is where Mozzi's sitting at here. Unfortunately for him, it's
Speaker 5: another defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: But is that is that unfortunate? Let's really let's really
Speaker 2: break that down. It's unfortunate, but it's also perceptions of everything.
Speaker 2: Your cup is half full of half anthing. You got
Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator, a new start. You haven't gotten
Speaker 2: off to the start, like you said, you're over here
Speaker 2: talking about you got thrown out the club. If there
Speaker 2: is any defensive scheme that you're going to succeed in,
Speaker 2: is that wide nine four man front, get off the ball,
Speaker 2: just hunt and that is what you have with Evra
Speaker 2: flu So if anything, it's a brand new start. So
Speaker 2: for him, yeah, new perceptions believes in giving you fresh starts.
Speaker 2: He tell you, I don't care about none of this.
Speaker 2: All I cares about what you're doing. So if he's
Speaker 2: been showing it at O t A, then guess what
Speaker 2: he's gonna do. That pressure bus pipes will make diamonds.
Speaker 7: So my bad.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, this one.
Speaker 5: This is the conversation you have because Monsei Smith to
Speaker 5: me is a key. This is a guy that we
Speaker 5: have to look at. I mean, he got two things
Speaker 5: with the cowboys for me that that I have questions
Speaker 5: about one. It's the d line because if you want
Speaker 5: to beat the Cowboys, and the good teams that have
Speaker 5: beaten the Cowboys the last three years have been able
Speaker 5: to run the ball. Diick Fan Gill say, here's the
Speaker 5: blue print, the blue Prince's lea run on them. We
Speaker 5: want to beat the cow go run these dudes. They
Speaker 5: can't stop to run. Oh Michael parsays, yes.
Speaker 6: What you want to rush? Yes, so we go run
Speaker 6: his ball up.
Speaker 7: And run yourself out the play. But that's the good thing.
Speaker 7: I'm a man.
Speaker 2: I'm remiss because I do not know the linebackers' names
Speaker 2: that we have. So that's a challenge to them. Make
Speaker 2: me learn y'all names be those guys this year because
Speaker 2: if the defense penetrates right there, you're going to have
Speaker 2: your linebackers that can just cover go downhill like back
Speaker 2: in the day, Zier Black uh uh at the Colts.
Speaker 2: What was the other kid that your Q dog brother
Speaker 2: Leonard from l s U Like he was able to
Speaker 2: free flow when you cause that penetration. So it's not
Speaker 2: going to be a catch technique like this is you
Speaker 2: really getting off? So like it shouldn't be no excuses
Speaker 2: for this run defense between the scheme, if you go
Speaker 2: out there and execute, like I don't want to hear
Speaker 2: none of that.
Speaker 5: Look, Kenneth Murray, who they brought brought in here linebacker
Speaker 5: dog got a good linebacker and obviously he's got something.
Speaker 5: I apologize, sir, but but that's you know, there's a
Speaker 5: there's a player that if upfront they're doing their.
Speaker 4: Job, he can have a good scene can flow.
Speaker 5: And we saw it with the Kendricks last year. Was
Speaker 5: no longer here, but he used them's defense. But when
Speaker 5: he was when they got upon and he wasn't as
Speaker 5: good as he could be. As I'm not as fall.
Speaker 7: I think Murray has the potential to do Sean Lee
Speaker 7: type caliber and.
Speaker 10: Shawn was so before before injuries got to that boy,
Speaker 10: Sean Lee was a different.
Speaker 7: Break definitely, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: Even the Cowboys, it's like when you when you look
Speaker 10: at them as a team and it's been a long time,
Speaker 10: I'm trying to remember that that that all Pro linebacker
Speaker 10: that we had that was like that dude that was
Speaker 10: always there.
Speaker 4: We've always been known for d line, running.
Speaker 10: Backs, quarterbacks, skill positions and stuff like that, but the
Speaker 10: Cowboys it's been it's been some some years since we've
Speaker 10: had that dominant force at a linebacker inside or something
Speaker 10: like that. Mike's rushing on the outside and doing his thing,
Speaker 10: but we ain't had that dude, like you know what
Speaker 10: I'm saying, Like a Bobby Wagner type guy who could hold.
Speaker 4: It down and be consistent for years for long.
Speaker 5: Never been their real big philosophy, especially since Jimmy left,
Speaker 5: they had they don't. Yeah, so it was a surprise
Speaker 5: for a lot of people that they drafted Michael Parsons
Speaker 5: because linebackers not been a big thing when Jimmy was here.
Speaker 6: They were very much d line and then the back end.
Speaker 5: Those in terms of first and first round picks, you
Speaker 5: saw first round corners and first round deal you really
Speaker 5: didn't see that many linebackers. The one linebacker that Jimmy
Speaker 5: did take in the first round was Robert Jones out
Speaker 5: of East Carolina. But for the most part, they even
Speaker 5: like Ken Norton was the second round and they didn't
Speaker 5: pay Ken Norton. They just didn't put a lot of
Speaker 5: emphasis at the linebackers spot because they feel like, if
Speaker 5: we're good in the back of the front, we can
Speaker 5: find some other plea can plug in, plug plugging some
Speaker 5: guys there. I'm going right back over to what you
Speaker 5: said because I said this yesterday on the media, Mash
Speaker 5: Tyler Guiden is the key to this thing.
Speaker 6: If your left tackle cannot protect in this league, you.
Speaker 4: Gotta look out. And this run game is up in
Speaker 4: the air right now too as well.
Speaker 5: So this schedule you think about, you're starting off with
Speaker 5: the Giants, I mean, got the Egles, then the Giants,
Speaker 5: then the Bears, Packers you got you know, Commanders are
Speaker 5: on here this, you got the Broncos, you know, Chiefs, Lions,
Speaker 5: you know charges. So you're playing some teams that if
Speaker 5: your left tackle is not getting it done, and it's
Speaker 5: a bunch of lookouts, it's a problem one of the things.
Speaker 5: And this is this is where I've learned how to
Speaker 5: make these interviews work, is listening to what you guys
Speaker 5: as players don't say, say a little bit. And so
Speaker 5: we're talking to Jake ferguson the tight end yesterday and
Speaker 5: he talked about, yeah, first time ever in my career
Speaker 5: I didn't catch a touchdown on my mind, and then
Speaker 5: he talked about last year, I had to do a
Speaker 5: couple of things, and then you know had to chip
Speaker 5: at times.
Speaker 6: You got to help a.
Speaker 2: Brother out of it that I wasn't able to get
Speaker 2: out for y'all that didn't pick up what he said, Hey,
Speaker 2: I need you to pick up your sack.
Speaker 5: I had to help the rookie last year because he
Speaker 5: wasn't getting it done. So instead of me getting out
Speaker 5: here running some routes and doing what I want to do,
Speaker 5: I had to help homeboy.
Speaker 6: So hopefully, if homeboy does his thing, I can go
Speaker 6: get loose as I'm a f agent.
Speaker 5: And so when he said it, he wasn't throw in shade,
Speaker 5: but he was also trying to let you have an understanding.
Speaker 4: Of why haven't I been so productive as I could?
Speaker 7: But they say read the contact clues followed the bouncing boom.
Speaker 5: But some people, and this is some of the faults
Speaker 5: of some of the meeting, some people didn't get it.
Speaker 5: Some people did get what he was saying. And that's
Speaker 5: why I go back into what we talk about. Tyler
Speaker 5: guid is a guy. He was hurt last year, thrown
Speaker 5: in from a different position, hurt at training camp. So
Speaker 5: a lot of things that didn't go the way he
Speaker 5: wanted to. And let's be honest and Chris Bean. You
Speaker 5: know this our producer Chris because he's a camp too,
Speaker 5: and he's been there were some issues with the old
Speaker 5: line coach and now people feel a little feel you're
Speaker 5: hearing things that.
Speaker 6: They feel better.
Speaker 8: A guy Arizona, right, Kansas State, but the offensive coordinator
Speaker 8: from Arizona.
Speaker 4: It was the coach there.
Speaker 6: So having two run guys.
Speaker 5: But these were just some issues that Okay, these guys
Speaker 5: are starting to see and do some things different. Maybe
Speaker 5: they make this old line play to their strength a
Speaker 5: little bit more. But bottom line is this offensive line
Speaker 5: is getting tested week one, Thursday night against Philadelphia, and
Speaker 5: it's gonna set the tone and offensive line and defensive line.
Speaker 5: But Tyler guy, I don't know if you seen him,
Speaker 5: God lost weight. Now he looked, he's he's looking good.
Speaker 5: Damn Is that gonna help? Because I mean, you got
Speaker 5: you got pus roxy. That's what he was exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: And for me as a D lineman, like when I
Speaker 2: seen those guys on that Scout report and they said
Speaker 2: a former hooper and this and that. Oh I'm looking
Speaker 2: at my chops. Oh man, he ain't built tough. He
Speaker 2: ain't for tough like that like you it's a certain mindset.
Speaker 7: It's a reason.
Speaker 2: No disrespect to the basketball players, but the way that
Speaker 2: we looked at football players, it was like it was
Speaker 2: a certain dominance. So for you to switch sports do
Speaker 2: that and you losing the weight, it's like the way
Speaker 2: that I look at you. Don't get me wrong, no disrespect.
Speaker 2: Mike McGlinchey is good. He's been his own type of guy.
Speaker 2: But guys in the league love to line up against
Speaker 2: Mike because guess what you knew he was like you
Speaker 2: knew he was gonna overestimate itself and you could run
Speaker 2: him out the club. So with you telling me that
Speaker 2: he's losing weight, if you just said that, hey, he
Speaker 2: leaned up and yeah. So that's that's what I meant
Speaker 2: to say. Okay, there we got his credit.
Speaker 6: I would go into this where you know, when you
Speaker 6: looked at tired Smith, that was that.
Speaker 4: Was the guy you said, hey, yeah and so.
Speaker 5: But but overall amongst the line, like you saw the
Speaker 5: Cowboys shifted from guys like Nate Newton and Mark tuen
Speaker 5: A to hey, man, our linemen are not gonna be dowey.
Speaker 6: You're going.
Speaker 14: And so so Guyton is looking when you look at
Speaker 14: him so he's making that right. You see, no, you
Speaker 14: saw it.
Speaker 5: You saw a guy that has taken last year's disappointment
Speaker 5: and said, how can I get this off season?
Speaker 4: He made no.
Speaker 6: Excuses when he's like, I wasn't good.
Speaker 5: I love I love that I wasn't where I needed
Speaker 5: to be, And he said, I have to earn Dax's trust.
Speaker 5: So he he's taken this off season to look at himself.
Speaker 5: Wasn't where I needed to be. Let me do the
Speaker 5: things I need to do. And so he's changed his
Speaker 5: diet and he can I do to get better?
Speaker 7: We'll have to see.
Speaker 5: That's what training campus is about. But at least you're
Speaker 5: watching him take the steps. One accountability. You guys know
Speaker 5: this better because you're playing the rule. Can you look
Speaker 5: in your mirror, in your own mirror and be accountable
Speaker 5: to what you were last year and what you didn't do?
Speaker 5: And then when you hear him talking about I have
Speaker 5: to earn the trust of the quarterback in my line linemates,
Speaker 5: then you know Kevin he cares about dudes in the room.
Speaker 5: We all got to care about each otheractly, you know,
Speaker 5: because the inches we need all.
Speaker 6: If you look over there and see a guy gotta
Speaker 6: go at it, and that's what you need, especially you
Speaker 6: got to be a group.
Speaker 2: And another thing that he said behind that, within that
Speaker 2: statement was it wasn't that he said, hey, I know,
Speaker 2: I gotta do this. He took the ownership of saying
Speaker 2: like I know the like I know it's on me,
Speaker 2: Like he's letting you know, like I'm about to go
Speaker 2: to battle and like I'm coming in with one person.
Speaker 2: And so for me, that gives you, like that that
Speaker 2: dog mentality where he put in his back up against
Speaker 2: the wall. He knows the adversity he has to overcome.
Speaker 2: And so for a guy like that, that's a day man,
Speaker 2: that's a dangerous man with tunnel vision. So for you
Speaker 2: to clean it up and say like, hey, he's boked
Speaker 2: up and he went into Hyperberg to get brawlic and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. As an anime fan, I'm over here.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to return to Broadley.
Speaker 5: That's the thing up he's he has been doing the work.
Speaker 5: Let's see what it translates to when you get out
Speaker 5: there in July. Awesome Richards is a back up here.
Speaker 5: I think he'll have an opportunity as well. And if
Speaker 5: Shoddy is doing the whole Pete Carroll thing where you
Speaker 5: preaching competition. Let's see exactly who they made it go
Speaker 5: from there.
Speaker 6: When we come back.
Speaker 4: I don't give him the job, you know what I'm mean.
Speaker 6: That's about it.
Speaker 4: Just because you got the first round. I hated that.
Speaker 4: But competition. He's saying the right things. He's saying the
Speaker 4: I had a.
Speaker 5: Conversation with a guy yesterday and in the locker room,
Speaker 5: and I want to get your perspective on it about
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Speaker 4: He put pressure on training camp, all right, So.
Speaker 6: Anthony Dorse has smoked it out.
Speaker 7: By that bloodhound, no boy.
Speaker 6: I had one on one.
Speaker 5: Conversation off off, off to the side with Carrier Elam,
Speaker 5: who's was a former first round pick of the Buffalo
Speaker 5: Bills and then traded him his fifth year not picked up.
Speaker 5: He feels that he's got a new lease on life.
Speaker 5: He feels that the coaches are encouraging him. He just
Speaker 5: didn't think that the Buffalo situation fit him. But you
Speaker 5: got your thoughts here, and so I want to hear
Speaker 5: him Dorset.
Speaker 4: I thought that was a reach.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 10: I've followed Keer, I've followed some of his family that
Speaker 10: also played in the NFL and everything else like that,
Speaker 10: so I had some type of emotional connection to it
Speaker 10: the whole time. So I was just always interested in
Speaker 10: what he was doing then to see what was happening
Speaker 10: up in Buffalo. And I think that he was either
Speaker 10: beat out by a free agent or a third round
Speaker 10: draft pick something like that, and it just.
Speaker 4: Wasn't It just wasn't materializing up there.
Speaker 10: And for whatever reason you want to say, we all
Speaker 10: know in this room the first round draft picks are
Speaker 10: going to get more opportunities than anybody, and no team
Speaker 10: actually wants to look like they made a bus move
Speaker 10: in the draft pick, especially with the first round draft pick.
Speaker 10: But for them to let him go and now he's
Speaker 10: here in Dallas, his fifth year was not picked up,
Speaker 10: just like you said, So that shows you that the
Speaker 10: Cowboys still have some question about him too as well.
Speaker 10: All right, So for me, it's one of those type
Speaker 10: of things whereas I know that there, what was it,
Speaker 10: the Revel kid that we just took in the third
Speaker 10: out of Eastern Carolina. He's hurt right now, but the
Speaker 10: skills set that that kid brings, along with the other
Speaker 10: two guys that are already here.
Speaker 4: Blanding, Diggs. I mean, it's gonna be tough now.
Speaker 10: Right now, Cure has an opportunity because Digs gotta get healthy,
Speaker 10: Revel gotta get healthy, and so you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: But it's gonna be some tough It's gonna be some
Speaker 10: tough roads to hold for him to get through here too,
Speaker 10: it ain't gonna be easy, So I'm questioning.
Speaker 4: But like you said, you know, going into camp, you
Speaker 4: always need some bodies, you know what I mean? You
Speaker 4: always need some extra people.
Speaker 7: Hey man, he unloaded the chainberlone here.
Speaker 4: Players.
Speaker 7: It is the players.
Speaker 2: If for y'all that don't understand, I know y'all might
Speaker 2: be like, hey, why is d more over there laughing
Speaker 2: because I understand him speaking the professional talk.
Speaker 7: But if y'all didn't hear what he said.
Speaker 4: He said, Hey, you.
Speaker 2: Ain't live up to expectations. It's the reason why you
Speaker 2: hear It's the reason why this didn't happen for you.
Speaker 2: And with all this being said, this is his last
Speaker 2: shot because you have a lot of injuries. If there
Speaker 2: is a time for him to put up and prove
Speaker 2: that he is first round caliber, it would be now
Speaker 2: because of all the injuries that is driven here, and
Speaker 2: for that to have all those type of injuries coming
Speaker 2: off those major injuries and the Cowboys not to pick
Speaker 2: up your fifth round or fifth year option. They said, hey,
Speaker 2: we don't need no security mixture. You have to prove
Speaker 2: it exactly.
Speaker 4: That was a lot if y'all didn't catch that.
Speaker 2: And you know, everybody needs a new opportunity, you do,
Speaker 2: everybody needs a new opportunity. But go ahead, go ahead, no, no,
Speaker 2: But what I was.
Speaker 8: Saying is, and if I'm him, this is this is
Speaker 8: a place where where you want to be to kind
Speaker 8: of reprove yourself because this is an organization in years
Speaker 8: past that you know, for myself being undrafted, they'll give
Speaker 8: you that shot.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got guys that were first round or
Speaker 2: second round, third rounders in front of you. If you
Speaker 2: prove you can play out there, they're gonna give you
Speaker 2: a shot.
Speaker 8: So this is an opportunity for him to kind of,
Speaker 8: you know, put buffalo behind him, go out there and
Speaker 8: hopefully perform, you know, to the.
Speaker 4: Top of his abilities.
Speaker 8: But as you as you understand, like, well, first round
Speaker 8: picks you get, you get that leash, you get that
Speaker 8: long less you got to prove to the organization that
Speaker 8: you can't play ball exactly, And he's getting those opportunities
Speaker 8: and this may be his last one.
Speaker 4: So he's got to go out there with the injuries
Speaker 4: that they have out there and take advantage of the.
Speaker 2: Red fair enough to say, and you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: being a little messy. But because you know, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 2: y'all back there in that back end. But is it
Speaker 2: fair to say that this is the defensive version of
Speaker 2: Trey Lance potentially? I ain't gonna let you'll answer that.
Speaker 2: But what I am going to say to play Devil's
Speaker 2: advocate as much as he's had that least and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, with him being the first round draft pick,
Speaker 2: you do have that opportunity. Uh Sometime it is a
Speaker 2: change of scenery and just getting that new feel like
Speaker 2: you're in the media capital, like one of the largest
Speaker 2: media markets. You're playing for America's team. Guys are coming
Speaker 2: off injuries, and you know that pressure that you have
Speaker 2: to do. What you having the lineage of your family
Speaker 2: members playing in the league and you being a first
Speaker 2: round pick. This might be that redempture tour to where
Speaker 2: he can have that rebirth. So if those d Linemans
Speaker 2: do good to do is just sit there and be
Speaker 2: ready to catch.
Speaker 7: So we'll see.
Speaker 10: But one thing about it, being in this organization, on
Speaker 10: this team, all that attention is gonna come.
Speaker 4: It is pressure, bucket down, spotlight here. You can't avoid it.
Speaker 4: Here week what week? What I mean?
Speaker 5: And and it was an interesting thing too when I
Speaker 5: talked to him, like, you know, this schedule, got some
Speaker 5: receivers on here and looking past twenty twenty five, just
Speaker 5: just looking at the landscape of this.
Speaker 6: Bland's going to be a free agent, so Diggs in
Speaker 6: his contract.
Speaker 5: Depending on the way things go here with him, they
Speaker 5: could hit the exit button on that Uh you took
Speaker 5: you took ravel from East Carolina. So they're they're looking
Speaker 5: and hoping it. So the opportunity issues here, there could
Speaker 5: be something. It's a it's it's throwing a dart. Let's
Speaker 5: see what we've got. They've done it in several positions.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah for them this year.
Speaker 5: So Elob's got an opportunity, which is what he said, like, man,
Speaker 5: just give me a shot, give me a shot.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this before you try
Speaker 2: to go to break what you've seeing all the people
Speaker 2: that have been around, like THEU as we say, the Misfits,
Speaker 2: Rob Man Rob mary Nella used to always say, Hey,
Speaker 2: I love getting these cogs and showing that they can
Speaker 2: work in the machine. Do you think that he has
Speaker 2: turned that corner to where it's like, hey, he's really
Speaker 2: about to prove this, Like he's given me.
Speaker 7: He's showing nothing.
Speaker 6: Because because he has the pass breakups.
Speaker 5: Okay, and that was something he did in Buffalo, and
Speaker 5: he talked to you about hey, two years in a row,
Speaker 5: Man let the team in pass breakups to camp and
Speaker 5: and and and the O t A. So he's he's
Speaker 5: shown you he can he can do, but it didn't
Speaker 5: translate intractice.
Speaker 7: He's about to hit a.
Speaker 6: Game back and so and so this this is your
Speaker 6: version and what you believe.
Speaker 5: Okay, take it to camp and let's see seventeen game
Speaker 5: schedule with these kinds of receivers here, looking at some
Speaker 5: of the health issues and seeing how last.
Speaker 6: There's there there.
Speaker 5: This is still am where you don't know what you're
Speaker 5: gonna get right now, Let's see this is what training
Speaker 5: campus for. And that's one of the things areas I'll
Speaker 5: be looking at, which why I wanted to talk to him.
Speaker 14: Let's let's see what happens. You don't never get bias man,
Speaker 14: Come on, get by his show.
Speaker 6: Do you want him to win or not? You believe
Speaker 6: he gonna win or not.
Speaker 7: I want to put you in the book for something.
Speaker 4: That's why I got it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's the reason why you're good
Speaker 2: and what you do that you don't know way, So
Speaker 2: so let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: So we went to O. T. A's one day and
Speaker 4: it was granted, it was just O. T As. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: But when you're that new dude on the block and
Speaker 10: you're trying to establish yourself, there's gonna be a certain
Speaker 10: way that you're gonna approach your business. Even in the O. T. A.
Speaker 10: It's gonna be every day. It's gonna be day in
Speaker 10: and day out. And I ain't see it.
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm asking me because he's in there.
Speaker 7: But don't.
Speaker 6: Here's here's the thing. He's done it.
Speaker 4: He knows you've been.
Speaker 6: In the locker room, that was what.
Speaker 4: But I've been on the field. So I'm equating it
Speaker 4: to that, and I'm equating.
Speaker 10: It to being that new guy in the new atmosphere
Speaker 10: trying to establish yourself, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 10: the way that you're gonna go about your work and
Speaker 10: everything else like that, that new guy in the locker
Speaker 10: room and that new guy in the field, he ain't
Speaker 10: got that that that liberty to say unless he's an
Speaker 10: all pro like this man standing behind us on this
Speaker 10: picture on the deep ball, like I got that, like
Speaker 10: not breaking on balls a certain type of way, and
Speaker 10: just like no, no, no, you got to show me
Speaker 10: you got that.
Speaker 4: This can't just tell me this is great.
Speaker 6: This is why I love the show and just okay.
Speaker 2: But that's why I wanted him to be the angel
Speaker 2: ands tell us, because I knew from a player's respective
Speaker 2: where you were going to playing that up.
Speaker 7: I needed that was the bad. I needed him to
Speaker 7: have the good right there where he could say, see.
Speaker 5: I'm smart enough to understand he's played this. Let me
Speaker 5: listen to him. And so what I want to take
Speaker 5: it in from taking it in from you? And so
Speaker 5: that's what I'm gonna take the camp and go start
Speaker 5: to focus my eyes and say, okay, well I'm looking
Speaker 5: for That's where Dennis Thurman was around.
Speaker 6: I would always a tt what do you looking at?
Speaker 4: What you see?
Speaker 6: He could spot it, you know he spotted because he
Speaker 6: played he Coachton League.
Speaker 4: He could see it.
Speaker 6: And so that's what I want to know.
Speaker 5: Now I'm knowing exactly what do I need to look
Speaker 5: for when I'm at camp, when I'm watching Eli.
Speaker 4: Bro I'm a lifer with this you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: One of the things I talked to Shoddy about when
Speaker 10: I had a chance to meet him, was like, Bro,
Speaker 10: you got to look at it. I've been around this
Speaker 10: game since my dad. I was born the same day
Speaker 10: of it's basically his first college game. I grew up
Speaker 10: in these locker rooms. I've been watching football, and I
Speaker 10: got a view of football like a lot of people
Speaker 10: don't have, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So when I see it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: it's like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: Either you got it you don't got it, And there's
Speaker 10: places in there where you can say, oh, he gonna
Speaker 10: get it.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 10: But just as we're talking about you, you have to
Speaker 10: be able to come in and establish yourself. You don't
Speaker 10: want to come in from another team after you getting
Speaker 10: cut or traded I'm sorry as a first round draft
Speaker 10: pick and not come in and assume some type of
Speaker 10: leadership role. Let people know who you are and what
Speaker 10: you're about, you know what I'm saying. So that that
Speaker 10: is not just a verbal thing, that's an active thing.
Speaker 10: That's something I can see every rep. You know what
Speaker 10: I'm saying. I could pick up on. So, like I said,
Speaker 10: I was only there for one day, but I didn't.
Speaker 10: I didn't get that that day. Now I saw.
Speaker 6: George, Hey, George, I said, you can, you can.
Speaker 4: You can look at that.
Speaker 10: Man and tell it's something different about that kid when
Speaker 10: he catched that ball and then his reps.
Speaker 7: You can see it immediately.
Speaker 8: And for all our young listeners out there, man, you
Speaker 8: take that same mentality defensively, you know, I'm won't lock
Speaker 8: in it.
Speaker 6: Take it to special teams as.
Speaker 2: Well, because they don't realize that when you get on
Speaker 2: the football field, therell me certa number of players that
Speaker 2: can get on the defensive football field.
Speaker 4: If you want to make the.
Speaker 2: Team and you want to have an impact and you're
Speaker 2: not that guy, make the special teams coach your best friend.
Speaker 6: How you prolong your career.
Speaker 4: You start your career, real talk, real talk.
Speaker 10: So for me rookie year, I'm a special teams dude, right,
Speaker 10: And so as I began to do more on special teams,
Speaker 10: you know, ad, you got a package on defense boom.
Speaker 4: You know, little stuff here there. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you don't recognize it, but like you you're showing, you're
Speaker 4: showing the team.
Speaker 10: You're showing player person that I don't know about player personnel,
Speaker 10: but you're showing everybody like, hey, look, hey, so I'm
Speaker 10: growing and I want some more, Like give me a chance,
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. So that what you said
Speaker 10: is the key, young boys, find your special teams.
Speaker 4: Coach.
Speaker 5: You come here, your best friend ourselves saying how many
Speaker 5: players can I get out of them.
Speaker 6: Special team? That's more plays and so okay, and if.
Speaker 5: We got them special as you said, now, okay, so
Speaker 5: we know he's we're putting him in on game day
Speaker 5: because you gotta be on special teams. Okay, what about
Speaker 5: a package here there, somebody goes down, be ready to go.
Speaker 4: It's more dependable that you.
Speaker 6: You you gotta get out of it.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 5: Or set more Church Scruggs, Chris being Josh. Everybody's been
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