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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Hoop tonight here at the Volume,
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Speaker 1: rankings finally today for a break to go over some
Speaker 1: preseason stuff and to have our special interview with Yovan Booha, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Lakers fans, if you missed that, yesterday
Speaker 1: we recorded about forty minutes or so with Yovan Booja
Speaker 1: went all over the Lakers training camp, first week of practice,
Speaker 1: and a bunch of specific questions surrounding the team. So
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Speaker 1: back to our power rankings today with number five the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. I've got a full season preview on Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and then I've got three mail bag questions for the
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Speaker 1: All right, So a quick offseason recap. They lost Deandrayton,
Speaker 1: Darius Basley, a lot of roster turnover here, lost Bismack Biambo,
Speaker 1: Tory Craig, Jack Landale, Chris Paul, Cameron Payne, Terrence Ross,
Speaker 1: Lander Shammant, and TJ. Warren. And hang with me here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give really quick breakdowns on you guy that
Speaker 1: they brought in Grayson Allen, starting two guard for the
Speaker 1: Bucks the last two years. Outstanding spotted player last year
Speaker 1: one point twenty six points per possession on two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty possessions. Out of one hundred and twenty six
Speaker 1: players to log at least two hundred spotted possesions, Grayson
Speaker 1: Allen ranked second in efficiency there seventy one percent effective
Speaker 1: field goal percentage on unguarded catch and shoot jump shots.
Speaker 1: So a guy you just can't really leave open. The
Speaker 1: nice thing with Grayson Allen is he can really stretch
Speaker 1: it out to like twenty six twenty seven feet. So
Speaker 1: like there's guys that can space to the corners, and
Speaker 1: then there's guys that can space above the break, and
Speaker 1: then there are guys that can space outside the above
Speaker 1: the break line. Remember Ryan Anderson was one of those
Speaker 1: guys back in the day for the Rockets. But the
Speaker 1: ability to consistently knock down shots a few feet behind
Speaker 1: the NBA line on the above the break line is
Speaker 1: super valuable because it prevents that defensive player from being
Speaker 1: able to dig down to the nail. You guys have
Speaker 1: probably heard that before, where you see a guy icing
Speaker 1: isolating a defender around the top of the key and
Speaker 1: you hear the announcers say, like, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: guy hanging out at the nail. That means is the
Speaker 1: guy who's guarding the guy on the wing is sagging
Speaker 1: way off of him, down almost to where the free
Speaker 1: throw line is, which is where the little nail is
Speaker 1: that's stabbed into the the hardwood right in front of
Speaker 1: the free throw line. Right. So, like one of the
Speaker 1: best ways to beat nail help is to have a
Speaker 1: guy who can consistently catch and shoot threes on the
Speaker 1: wing above the break. But the further you stretch him
Speaker 1: out behind the line, the harder it is for that
Speaker 1: guy to make that rotation. And that makes it so
Speaker 1: that you have all sorts of driving a lane going
Speaker 1: to that side. So Grayson, now that's where the that's
Speaker 1: where Grayson Allen brings his best value as a pro
Speaker 1: at this point. Keita Bates Job He's a forward who
Speaker 1: started about half the season for the Spurs last year.
Speaker 1: He also shot thirty nine percent from three. Bo Bull
Speaker 1: a seven foot two inch center. He started thirty three
Speaker 1: games for the Magic last year. On a per thirty
Speaker 1: six minute basis, fifteen points, ten rebounds, and two blocks against.
Speaker 1: That's that's per thirty six super talented, is still learning
Speaker 1: how to play the game at this point in his career.
Speaker 1: Juey you Banks super athletic backup center for the Blazers
Speaker 1: last year. He is undersized first position though he's only
Speaker 1: about six foot nine, but he did make half of
Speaker 1: his jump shots. Last year he only took thirty, but
Speaker 1: he made fifteen of them. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be an interesting option for the Suns when they go
Speaker 1: into more of a switching type of scheme, which we'll
Speaker 1: talk about later. Jordan Goodwin a bench guard for the
Speaker 1: Wizards last year. I don't think he'll crack the rotation
Speaker 1: this year. Eric Gordon I thought this was an underrated pickup.
Speaker 1: Eric shot well for the Clippers last year in the
Speaker 1: regular season, struggled a little bit in the postseason, but again,
Speaker 1: their shot creation tank t when Kawhi Leonard got hurt
Speaker 1: and Paul George was out, so you're not getting as
Speaker 1: quality spot up attempts, if that makes sense. Still a
Speaker 1: versatile fire hydrant of a defender. I like him better
Speaker 1: in a switching scheme because he can guard up a position.
Speaker 1: Doesn't navigate screens as well as he used to, but
Speaker 1: he still is a useful perimeter defender. He's really good
Speaker 1: at being physical without fouling and disrupting guys on their
Speaker 1: base so that they don't get lyft into their shots.
Speaker 1: I think he's a good option to have as the
Speaker 1: fifth guy in any lineup, especially in closing groups. They
Speaker 1: might need to eventually upgrade. That we'll talk about in
Speaker 1: a minute, but I like him right now as an
Speaker 1: option and certainly as a value pick up. Keon Johnson
Speaker 1: a bench guard. He came over eight and dale. Don't
Speaker 1: expect him to play much either. Mess here little. This
Speaker 1: is a team that's thin at forward, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if he plays more than you'd expect. A
Speaker 1: versatile bench Ford has a surprising amount of polished attacking closeouts,
Speaker 1: can actually put the ball on the floor a little bit,
Speaker 1: and can shoot a little bit. He was fifty four
Speaker 1: percent in effective field goal percentage on catch and shoot
Speaker 1: jumpers last year, fifty one percent EFFECTI field goal percentage
Speaker 1: ump pull up jump shots. He actually made thirty five
Speaker 1: off the dribble jump shots at over a point per possession.
Speaker 1: That's really impressive. Chimezi Metu, a bench big who played
Speaker 1: ten minutes a game for the Kings last year, seventeen
Speaker 1: points and ten rebounds per thirty six minutes. You do
Speaker 1: want Navii, a six nine forward for the Nets. Last year.
Speaker 1: One of the best catch and shoot guys in the league.
Speaker 1: Last year shot sixty nine percent in effective field goal
Speaker 1: percentage on catch and shoot jumpers, seventy five percent when
Speaker 1: he was unguarded, just deadly when he's open. He converted
Speaker 1: spot at possions at one point two to three points
Speaker 1: per possession, which is off the charts. Good. They're two
Speaker 1: major acquisitions or Usuf Nurkic starting center for the Blazers
Speaker 1: the last seven years. Believe it or not, usif Durkicic
Speaker 1: is only twenty nine years old. He just turned twenty nine.
Speaker 1: That was kind of a shock to me because it
Speaker 1: feels like he's been in the league forever. And then
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal. So what I want to do at this
Speaker 1: point is I want to take a deeper scout on
Speaker 1: both of those two players, because obviously we're looking at
Speaker 1: this as Katie and Devin Booker. This third starter that's
Speaker 1: going to play the three that that will see you
Speaker 1: who that ends up being or I guess just it
Speaker 1: could technically be a four, but I would imagine it
Speaker 1: will be a three, someone who's more of a primitive defender.
Speaker 1: And then it's going to be essentially use of Nurkicchen
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal bracketing all of that. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: those two guys for a little bit now. After the
Speaker 1: use of nurkis trade, there was a lot of pushback
Speaker 1: and mainly just from a talent perspective, taking a player
Speaker 1: who was more consistently available and DeAndre and who was
Speaker 1: a better defensive player like that, that's the angle that
Speaker 1: everyone's like, what are you guys doing? But if you
Speaker 1: if you zoom zoom in on it a little bit.
Speaker 1: As I started asking people around the league who are
Speaker 1: more well connected to me, more well connected than me,
Speaker 1: I should say, most of them were saying the same
Speaker 1: thing that the Sons are basically looking this, looking at
Speaker 1: this as a as an upgrade in the form of
Speaker 1: short role passing. So again, if you look at the
Speaker 1: if you look at the Phoenix Suns with Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: Devin Booker and Bradley Beal, they just because of how
Speaker 1: dynamic all three of those guys are as pull up
Speaker 1: shooters and his scorers in general, you're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of really aggressive pick and roll coverages. What does
Speaker 1: that mean? That means that when you run your two
Speaker 1: man game and you bring the guy up to set
Speaker 1: the screen, or if there's a Nurkic drible handoff or
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, chances are the screen defender is
Speaker 1: going to have to show high on every single one
Speaker 1: of those, meaning the screen defender is gonna have to
Speaker 1: come out to the three point line to dissuade the
Speaker 1: pull up three. And in a lot of cases, you're
Speaker 1: gonna see teams straight out blitz, meaning they're gonna aggressively
Speaker 1: show on the pick and roll and double team and
Speaker 1: try to get the ball out of KD or Devin
Speaker 1: Booker or Bradley Bill's hand. So what happens when you
Speaker 1: do that, It opens up four on three opportunities, not
Speaker 1: just that, but we're gonna talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: it in a little bit, But in drible handoff situations,
Speaker 1: there are four and threes that can materialize too when
Speaker 1: the screen defender shows If Nurkic hangs onto the ball
Speaker 1: right in those four on three situations, you just have
Speaker 1: to be really quick processing the floor and making a decision.
Speaker 1: It's if you beat it quickly, you can get an
Speaker 1: easy basket. If you're just a step slow, they might
Speaker 1: be able to rotate out of it. Now, one of
Speaker 1: the things I'm doing this year for all of you
Speaker 1: guys is it'll be on TikTok and on Instagram, So
Speaker 1: you can follow me on Twitter at underscore jsonlt That's
Speaker 1: where I usually talk the game, so to speak, and
Speaker 1: I'll tweet out links and show announcements and stuff. Instagram,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to use for more footage stuff, and
Speaker 1: I've been doing the same for TikTok as well, So
Speaker 1: look up Jason timf on Instagram or on TikTok and
Speaker 1: you'll see some examples. But this morning I put out
Speaker 1: over a minute of clips of use of Nurkic making
Speaker 1: plays out of the short role, and he just is
Speaker 1: he's He's just got like a kind of a knack
Speaker 1: for it. He had really good chemistry hitting the cutter
Speaker 1: out of the weekside corner for lobs and for drop
Speaker 1: off passes. Even when you'd see the rotation or the
Speaker 1: defense would rotate to the guy in the corner, he
Speaker 1: would identify that and make the read to the wing instead,
Speaker 1: really high level stuff. He's just better at it than
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton, and so I really do think it's gonna
Speaker 1: make them harder to guard. The other thing I noticed too,
Speaker 1: is you know, in switches, there were and I put
Speaker 1: a couple examples of this as well. You'll see in
Speaker 1: that same clip, but there are examples where teams would switch.
Speaker 1: The Damian Lillard use of nirkis pick and roll. He
Speaker 1: just quickly dives down to the post, makes himself available
Speaker 1: almost every time he gets double team because he's going
Speaker 1: against a smaller guard, and then he just makes the
Speaker 1: kickout pass to whoever's open. He's just really really good
Speaker 1: at it. And then you know, I went back and
Speaker 1: I was looking with the way that synergy works. In
Speaker 1: order to track down a rollman possessions, I kind of
Speaker 1: have to go through assists. So it's filtering through basically
Speaker 1: every assist that use of Nirkic had last year. And
Speaker 1: as I was looking through, I came across a ton
Speaker 1: of dribble handoff stuff and he just kind of has
Speaker 1: a knack for identifying with dribble handoffs materializing kickout situations.
Speaker 1: So like if he happens to catch on the wing
Speaker 1: because Dame works in pick and roll and kicks it
Speaker 1: back out to him, he'll just catch and then quick
Speaker 1: go into a dribble handoff with Anthony Simon's on the
Speaker 1: other side of the floor or vice versa. Right, It's
Speaker 1: kind of like that Draymond rain dribble handoff type of thing,
Speaker 1: and he just kind of has an act for it.
Speaker 1: He's a really good screener, and that can also materialize
Speaker 1: in four on threes. Not only does because again I've
Speaker 1: talked about this with the dribble handoff before, but the
Speaker 1: dribble handoff is a lot harder to guard than the
Speaker 1: pick and roll when you have an offensively skilled big
Speaker 1: because it's much harder for the screen defender to show
Speaker 1: because the screen defender might be able to show and
Speaker 1: recover back to the role man if the rollman's not
Speaker 1: super offensively gifted and is slow to make decisions, right,
Speaker 1: but in a dribble handoff situation, he's already got the ball,
Speaker 1: so like it can be even harder to get back
Speaker 1: into the picture, like fake the dribble handoff, go to
Speaker 1: the rim. If my screen defender is showing when I go,
Speaker 1: I'm just right past him downhill. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: a four on three with skipping the pocket pass, which
Speaker 1: just buys you even more time to make that read,
Speaker 1: and so I think you're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 1: use of Nurkic dribble handoff stuff as a way to
Speaker 1: kind of like facilitate easier opportunities for both the ball
Speaker 1: handlers and for Nurkic as self himself. Also a much
Speaker 1: better spot up threat than DeAndre Ayton was. He was
Speaker 1: up over a point per possession one point zero three,
Speaker 1: which is above average. Ayton was below a point per
Speaker 1: possession on super low volume, and Nurkic I think logged
Speaker 1: well over one hundred spot up possessions. So like he's
Speaker 1: just a guy who can actually space the floor a
Speaker 1: little bit when he doesn't have the ball in any
Speaker 1: capacity or is not setting a screen, and so I
Speaker 1: think that brings value. He actually took two point three
Speaker 1: threes per game last year, which was a career high,
Speaker 1: and made over thirty six percent of them. So I
Speaker 1: look at it just as a big offensive upgrade. Like
Speaker 1: obviously defensively he's a step down for Ayitan, but on
Speaker 1: the offensive end of the floor, it's gonna make Phoenix
Speaker 1: much harder to guard. And we're gonna talk about this
Speaker 1: later when we get to the mail back, because there's
Speaker 1: a mail back question surrounding the Lakers and what type
Speaker 1: of player they should target in the trade market, And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a similar take there in the sense
Speaker 1: that like, identify what you're good at and lean into that,
Speaker 1: because what you want to do is be better at
Speaker 1: that than anybody you face and have that be the
Speaker 1: thing that gets you over the top. Right, if you
Speaker 1: try to play someone else at their game, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna lose if you're not as good at it as
Speaker 1: they are. And so I like the idea of leaning
Speaker 1: into offense speak truly and completely unguardable. Frank Vogel is
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to get you to guard well enough,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's your best ceiling. And so again, like
Speaker 1: I was critical of the eight and trade initially when
Speaker 1: it happened, now having done more research, I understand it better.
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of on the fence about it just
Speaker 1: from a talent perspective with Ayton, but I can see
Speaker 1: the thought process, and I really do want to see
Speaker 1: it in practice and actually see it on the floor
Speaker 1: in these games before we actually take a real hard
Speaker 1: stance on it. And again, Vogel is a defensive genius.
Speaker 1: I was so impressed by Vogel as a defensive coach
Speaker 1: when he was with the Lakers. I think Suns fans
Speaker 1: are really gonna like him on that end. His weakness
Speaker 1: is offensive organization. But you've got so much offensive IQ
Speaker 1: on the floor just with those four guys that I
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna be an issue. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of the perfect coach for this particular situation. It's kind
Speaker 1: of similar to having Tom Brady essentially being the brains
Speaker 1: of your offense while you know Bill Belichick focuses on
Speaker 1: the defensive end. It's kind of like a smart pairing
Speaker 1: in that sense. And you gotta look at the personnel
Speaker 1: here because, like Frank Vogel is traditionally like a drop
Speaker 1: coverage coach who prefers to guard actions two on two,
Speaker 1: meaning when there's a ball screen, Vogel does not want
Speaker 1: to help if he can avoid it, and he wants
Speaker 1: to try to get the guard to chase over the
Speaker 1: top and funnel downhill into the rim protector. But typically
Speaker 1: that requires a great rim protector, and Frank Vogel's had
Speaker 1: great rim protectors in his career, Guys like Roy Hibbert,
Speaker 1: guys like Anthony Davis. You get the point. So, like,
Speaker 1: obviously this team is different, and so I'll be really
Speaker 1: interested to see how Vogel changes his schematic approach with
Speaker 1: this particular team, because the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: I think they should be trying to mimic Denver. I
Speaker 1: think that they should try to use their pick and
Speaker 1: roll defense similar to the way Denver does by bringing
Speaker 1: Nurkic higher in ball screens because you gotta identify, like
Speaker 1: with the offensive minded guys like Brad Bleil, Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant, they probably aren't gonna chase over screens
Speaker 1: super well. Obviously Frank's gonna ask him to. I think
Speaker 1: I would imagine he's aware that he's not gonna get
Speaker 1: the same type of commitment fighting over the top of
Speaker 1: screens that he did from Dennis Schroeder and Alex Crusoe
Speaker 1: when he was with the Lakers, Right, So, like, my
Speaker 1: guess is he's gonna offer more high help, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna have Nurkic come up high. This is what the
Speaker 1: Nuggets do with Jokic for the most part. They also
Speaker 1: ran some deeper drop but for the most part, the
Speaker 1: Nuggets ran throughout last season a high drop with Nikola Jokic.
Speaker 1: Then they ask Aaron Gordon to help out of the
Speaker 1: weakside corner basically as the low man, meaning like he's
Speaker 1: keeping tabs on the guy on the weakside corner, but
Speaker 1: also offering help at the rim as an athlete. That's
Speaker 1: a role that Kevin Durant can excel in. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of the way I'd like to see them kind
Speaker 1: of set up. Their defense is basically against bad pull
Speaker 1: up jump shooting teams. And this now Denver got away
Speaker 1: with it, Like Denver ran their deep drop against the
Speaker 1: Lakers and against the Timberwolves and against the a Heat
Speaker 1: because of the fact that they didn't have high level
Speaker 1: pull up jump shooting, right, But then against Phoenix they
Speaker 1: were bringing Jokic up higher. Right. That's the kind of
Speaker 1: decision that that Vogel's gonna make. He's gonna look at
Speaker 1: the situation like I, Okay, this particular matchup, they don't
Speaker 1: have great pull up shooting. We can sit in a
Speaker 1: deeper drop guard these actions two on two stay at
Speaker 1: a rotation. Okay, now we're playing you know, Steph Curry
Speaker 1: or one of the other great pull up jump shooters
Speaker 1: in the league. Okay, we're bringing Nurkic up high, we're
Speaker 1: sitting in, we're kind of showing or in a high
Speaker 1: drop in these situations and asking Kevin Durayt to kind
Speaker 1: of help on the backside defending the action three on two.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the way that they're gonna
Speaker 1: try to defend and then essentially just have really smart
Speaker 1: rotations on the back end. And that's where accountability is
Speaker 1: going to become a big deal, especially with the stars
Speaker 1: on the roster, and lastly with the with the Nurkic thing,
Speaker 1: He's just much more willing to buy into a role
Speaker 1: on a team than DeAndre Ayton is. And so again,
Speaker 1: like even if we look at the relative ceilings, who's
Speaker 1: more likely to reach their relative ceiling with this team
Speaker 1: Probably Nurkish And so I think that's another potential upside here.
Speaker 1: Bradley Beild, Yeah, average twenty three points, four rebounds, five
Speaker 1: assists and fifty games for the Wizards last year. Fifty
Speaker 1: nine percent true shooting, which is the third highest mark
Speaker 1: of his career, shot over fifty percent from the field.
Speaker 1: It was a big indicator there. Six hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: eight points on six hundred and fifty nine pick and rolls.
Speaker 1: That's only one point zero one points per possession, or
Speaker 1: the sixty second percentile. We'll talk about efficiency in a minute,
Speaker 1: because I have a theory there. Forty seven points on
Speaker 1: forty five post ups, he's a good post up guard.
Speaker 1: One point zero four points per possession. That's fifty seven
Speaker 1: percent tile two hundred and ten points on two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty eight ISOs that's zero point eighty eight points
Speaker 1: per possession, which is in the thirty ninth percentile. Now,
Speaker 1: when we're looking at efficiency there, again, you gotta remember
Speaker 1: it's a bad team. He's taking a lot of shots,
Speaker 1: he's getting the brunt of the defensive game planning, and
Speaker 1: he's passing to lesser players than some of the better
Speaker 1: teams that you see in the league. So just keep
Speaker 1: that in mind, excuse me. I expect Bradley Beal to
Speaker 1: be a very efficient scorer and shot creator for the Suns.
Speaker 1: This year. He was an excellent spot up player, one
Speaker 1: point one to six points per possession. He shot fifty
Speaker 1: seven percent in effective field goal percentage on catch and
Speaker 1: shoot jump shots, forty nine percent effective field goal percentage
Speaker 1: on pull up jump shots. Again, that's not great. That's good,
Speaker 1: not great, but again you got a factor in the
Speaker 1: type of shots that he had to take with this
Speaker 1: particular team, he was one of the best rim finishing
Speaker 1: guards in the league. And this is an exciting thing
Speaker 1: for the Suns. Three point five restricted area makes per game,
Speaker 1: which is awesome, and then seventy two percent shooting in
Speaker 1: the restricted area, which is like unbelievably good. That's like
Speaker 1: lebron Giannis territory, not quite a bit close. In that territory,
Speaker 1: those guys are around seventy five percent. For a guard
Speaker 1: to be up over seventy percent is basically unheard of.
Speaker 1: And so Bradley Beal, I think that's going to be
Speaker 1: an interesting way for him to impact winning on this
Speaker 1: team is to apply rim pressure, which is something that
Speaker 1: the team can struggle with. Outside of Devin Booker. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the concept of diminishing returns for a minute.
Speaker 1: So those of you guys have been listening to the
Speaker 1: show for a while, I've heard me say this about
Speaker 1: many different teams, but it's a consistent talking point I
Speaker 1: brought up with this particular Suns roster. When you have
Speaker 1: responsibilities that have to be filled on the floor, stars
Speaker 1: take up huge chunks of those responsibilities. So let's look
Speaker 1: at the offensive end and look at like shot creation responsibilities,
Speaker 1: play finishing responsibilities out of like the short role, pick
Speaker 1: and roll type stuff, pick and pop type and stuff,
Speaker 1: and then like spot up play, like attacking closeouts, you know,
Speaker 1: driving kick basketball. There's all these responsibilities to have to
Speaker 1: get filled. And so when you drop a and I'm
Speaker 1: not even talking about the defensive end yet, when you
Speaker 1: drop a star into the equation, he takes up so
Speaker 1: much of the shot creation responsibilities, which is great, But
Speaker 1: then you add a second guy in there, and now
Speaker 1: it's like, great, Okay, now we have two great guys
Speaker 1: that can create shots. Okay, now we're adding a third
Speaker 1: dude who can create shots. That's awesome, But like how
Speaker 1: good are we in play finishing and how good are
Speaker 1: we in spot up situations? Right? And then the defensive
Speaker 1: end of the floor, Like a lot of times a guy,
Speaker 1: an offensive player will take a smaller role offensively, right,
Speaker 1: like I'm only going to operate in spot up situations
Speaker 1: off the ball, or I'm only going to operate in
Speaker 1: the short role. But on the defensive end, I'm like
Speaker 1: your best point of attack defender I'm your best pick
Speaker 1: and roll screen defender or whatever it is, Like, you
Speaker 1: have bigger responsibilities on that end. And if Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, and Bradley Beal just focus on shot creation,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of responsibilities on the floor
Speaker 1: that don't get filled. And so again, like this team,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about this more when we get later,
Speaker 1: but like it gets to the end of the show.
Speaker 1: But like when we talk about the big picture, but
Speaker 1: this team does have a wide range of potential outcomes
Speaker 1: based on just the level of commit from these guys.
Speaker 1: So like, if Bradley Beal commits to defense and operates
Speaker 1: off the ball a lot and attacks the rim a
Speaker 1: lot with force, then he can massively raise the ceiling
Speaker 1: by filling areas of the of the of the responsibilities
Speaker 1: on the floor that need to be filled. Right. If
Speaker 1: KD becomes one of the best help defenders in the league,
Speaker 1: like I talked about, that could be the difference between
Speaker 1: them having a functional defense and not having a functional defense.
Speaker 1: Kd's rebounding has been down recent years. Obviously you're gonna
Speaker 1: need KD to rebound a lot. You know, these are
Speaker 1: things that are are gonna be worth watching over the
Speaker 1: course of the season. Devin Booker like he's a He's
Speaker 1: turned himself into a slightly above average point of attack defender.
Speaker 1: He might have to go up a level from there potentially, right,
Speaker 1: especially if you end up going offense at the three
Speaker 1: instead of going with someone like Joshakog. So like, each
Speaker 1: of the stars has to view the depth of star
Speaker 1: talent as a means with which to devote resources to
Speaker 1: dirty work. And if they do those things, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna hit the high end of their probability. All right,
Speaker 1: let's look at the depth chart really quick. At guard
Speaker 1: Devin Booker, Bradley Beal, Grayson Allen, Eric Gordon, Damian Lee,
Speaker 1: Jordan Goodwinning, Keon Johnson. Really deep there, that's like five playable,
Speaker 1: legitimately playable guards, four of which are very good. At
Speaker 1: the forward position, a little thing. Kevin Durant, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously one of the best players in the league. But
Speaker 1: after that, it's all bench forwards. It's Nazier, little Josha Kogi.
Speaker 1: You to want nab and Key debates job at center,
Speaker 1: use of Nurkics, Drew u Banks and Bull Bull that's
Speaker 1: a decent rotation right there, the clear week point of
Speaker 1: the roster is at forward. You don't have a starting
Speaker 1: caliber player that you can slot between Bradley Beal and
Speaker 1: Devin Booker and Katie and Yusef Nurkic. And there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of options there, right, Like, you can go with
Speaker 1: Josha Kogi as a point of attack guy. He's one
Speaker 1: of the better point of attack defenders in the league. Right,
Speaker 1: you can go with Eric Gordon for shooting and then
Speaker 1: kind of lean more in a switching scheme because Eric
Speaker 1: Gordon can switch on to forwards. You can go Grayson
Speaker 1: Allen for that above the break shooting that I was
Speaker 1: referencing earlier. You do want Nabby is deadly, especially out
Speaker 1: of the corner, so you can go with him too.
Speaker 1: But each of those guys has a red flag. Each
Speaker 1: of those guys has a weakness, right, Like a Kog
Speaker 1: is a extremely limited spot up threat. Eric Gordon is
Speaker 1: older at this phase and not as good defensively as
Speaker 1: it used to be. Grayson Allen obviously is undersized and
Speaker 1: has some limitations there. You do want Nabby, you know,
Speaker 1: is a little upright and can struggle to defend on
Speaker 1: the perimeter. So each of those guys has kind of
Speaker 1: like a big red flag. And so don't be surprised if,
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, if the Suns are
Speaker 1: one of the teams that gets mentioned a lot in
Speaker 1: conversations for a versatile like point of attack defender that
Speaker 1: can shoot, just keep an eye on that over the
Speaker 1: course of the season. So on offense, and we've already
Speaker 1: talked a lot about this with the Nurkics thing, but
Speaker 1: you know, I know this is not exactly a hot take,
Speaker 1: but I think the Suns are gonna score shit ton
Speaker 1: of points. It's not just that they have three shot creators.
Speaker 1: They have three highly versatile shots. All three of them
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, and Kevin Durant can all run
Speaker 1: pick and roll. They can all torch bigs on switches
Speaker 1: on perimeter. ISOs right, They all can punish smaller guards
Speaker 1: in the post. They all can play off ball, they
Speaker 1: all can pass. The basketball use of Nurkic as that
Speaker 1: dribble handoff folk room we talked about earlier, and with
Speaker 1: his ability to pass, and with his ability to punish
Speaker 1: switches in the post and his ability to space the
Speaker 1: floor like they're just going to be really, really difficult
Speaker 1: to guard. The biggest question mark offensively is going to
Speaker 1: be that fifth starter, because the ECoG problem is is like,
Speaker 1: if you keep him on the floor, your defense goes
Speaker 1: up a big level, right, because Joshakogi is such an
Speaker 1: outstanding point of attack defender. But the downside is is
Speaker 1: he's so weak as a spot up player that you
Speaker 1: allow other teams to defend your actions three on two.
Speaker 1: And I don't care how good Devin Booker, Bradley Beal,
Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant are. They become infinitely more guardable when
Speaker 1: you can sacrifice a third defender into that action and
Speaker 1: not have to worry about giving up much at all
Speaker 1: of anything on the weak side. And so that to
Speaker 1: me is going to be something to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on over the course of the season. I would probably
Speaker 1: go all in on offense again, like referencing that idea
Speaker 1: that we talked about earlier and being like kind of
Speaker 1: leaning into your strengths. This has the potential to be
Speaker 1: one of the great offensive teams of all time, and
Speaker 1: so I would probably go with Eric Gordon as the
Speaker 1: starting three. I consider you to want not be if
Speaker 1: you're having issues with rebounding. I'm sure they'll try a
Speaker 1: bunch of different guys in that position, and like I said,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they try to upgrade it
Speaker 1: over the course of the season. Again, look out for
Speaker 1: use of Nurkic az a folkrum. Look Out for more
Speaker 1: dribble handoffs than you're used to seeing from the Suns.
Speaker 1: And again, like he just is a really good screener
Speaker 1: in scoring threat. So I think that's gonna make their
Speaker 1: ball screen game more dynamic. One last thing to watch offensively,
Speaker 1: hunting mid range shots. It's fine, it's the identity of
Speaker 1: this team as long as you're making them in the
Speaker 1: regular season. Last year, Katie shot over sixty percent from
Speaker 1: the field on mid range pull up jump shots, just
Speaker 1: from the mid range, over sixty percent, and that's including
Speaker 1: the nets and the Suns regular season reps. Like, that's
Speaker 1: over one point two points per possession. That's awesome and
Speaker 1: that works. The problem is is as a team, the
Speaker 1: Suns shot just forty six percent on pull up twos
Speaker 1: against Denver. That's zero point ninety two points per shot.
Speaker 1: You see the difference. What's the difference between a one
Speaker 1: to twenty offensive rating and a ninety two offensive rating,
Speaker 1: completely untenable. The defense has to do something. We can
Speaker 1: live with that shit, that's the difference, right. KD himself
Speaker 1: was only forty two percent on pull up twos in
Speaker 1: the playoff or in the Denver series. That's zero point
Speaker 1: eighty four points per shot. The coaches are just gonna
Speaker 1: live with that. As a result, the Sun's not just
Speaker 1: a one to ten point six offensive rating in the
Speaker 1: series against the Nuggets. That's just not close to good enough,
Speaker 1: especially when you fancy yourself an offensive juggernaut. So one
Speaker 1: of two things needs to happen, Like either KD needs
Speaker 1: to start making those shots in the playoffs, which we've
Speaker 1: had two postseasons in a row where he hasn't, So
Speaker 1: he either needs to just start making it because those
Speaker 1: are fluky series. Or as a team, they got to
Speaker 1: adjust their shot selection and try to identify things that
Speaker 1: are going to be more efficient on a per possession
Speaker 1: basis in the postseason. More pull up threes, right, More
Speaker 1: attacking the rim and trying to draw foul so you
Speaker 1: can set your defense. That sort of thing. On the
Speaker 1: defensive end, again, we talked about it earlier, but the
Speaker 1: Denver scheme is something I'd consider, so like bringing Nurkic
Speaker 1: high end drop against better pull up jump shooters, offering
Speaker 1: a lot of weak side help with Kevin Durant when
Speaker 1: Drew Eubanks is out there because he's a better athlete.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you saw them do more switching.
Speaker 1: You can imagine a lineup with Booker Beal and kd
Speaker 1: in U Banks and then like Eric Gordon, and then
Speaker 1: that just being like five guys that you feel generally
Speaker 1: comfortable switching with as long as you help on the
Speaker 1: weak side and rotate out of it. So that's something
Speaker 1: I'd look for. And then defensive rebounding is just going
Speaker 1: to be a key all season, like how well as
Speaker 1: a team do they work on tracking down and hunting
Speaker 1: rebounds down. They got absolutely murdered on the glass by Denver,
Speaker 1: and that's just something you got to be able to
Speaker 1: contend with if you're gonna get out of the Western Conference.
Speaker 1: In summary, I think this team has the widest range
Speaker 1: of outcomes between like the worst case scenario and the
Speaker 1: best case scenario. Even if we factor in good health.
Speaker 1: There's a version of this story where they're healthy all
Speaker 1: year and they lose in the first or second round
Speaker 1: and hover around the bottom half of the standings. There's
Speaker 1: a version of this where they kick everyone's ass and
Speaker 1: win the title. And it really just comes down to
Speaker 1: whether or not the Stars are dedicated to the dirty work,
Speaker 1: which I believe they will be, so I lean more
Speaker 1: towards the high end of that, which is why I
Speaker 1: have them as high as I do. But again, like
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to the little things, and I
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier, but with parody in the league. Like, again,
Speaker 1: all these teams are really good for different reasons. The
Speaker 1: Suns have all this offensive firepower. The Lakers have the
Speaker 1: best defense in the league, in my opinion, best defensive
Speaker 1: player in Anthony Davis. Obviously, I think they have some
Speaker 1: wrinkles they got to sort out in their playoff defense.
Speaker 1: The Denver Nuggets have the best playoff offense in the league.
Speaker 1: Like they're just unguardable on the offensive end in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Bucks had this new dame Yiannis thing, but
Speaker 1: they're weak in point of attack defense. You know. The
Speaker 1: Boston Celtic are poised to be a truly elite defense,
Speaker 1: but they still struggle with top end shot creation. So
Speaker 1: each team in that list has strengths and weaknesses, right, Like,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come down to the little things, Like
Speaker 1: it's not just Phoenix's offense versus the Lakers defense, it's
Speaker 1: are the Lakers deeply committed to those details? Is Darvin
Speaker 1: Ham gonna be able to make the necessary adjustments? Is
Speaker 1: Frank Vogel gonna be able to make the necessary adjustments?
Speaker 1: Like these are the kinds of things over the course
Speaker 1: of the playoffs that are gonna make the difference between
Speaker 1: teams that are relatively close, Like I have the Suns
Speaker 1: at five, but they're not demonstrably worse than the number
Speaker 1: one team, Like they're not like they're all on the
Speaker 1: same tier. Like I'm splitting hairs with these rankings. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Phoenix feat all
Speaker 1: four of them, like Golden State is clearly a little
Speaker 1: level below these guys. The other five are all on
Speaker 1: the same tier. In my opinion, I just have the
Speaker 1: Suns at five based on basically my concern over whether
Speaker 1: or not they're gonna be willing to win in rock fights,
Speaker 1: which we will find out. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of Again, I've seen a lot of Suns fans like, oh,
Speaker 1: we took two games off of the Nuggets. Yeah you did,
Speaker 1: but you got your ass kicked in the other four games,
Speaker 1: Like literally got your ass kicked worse than any of
Speaker 1: the other teams. And in the two games you want,
Speaker 1: it required like all time great shooting from Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: like two of the greatest shooting performances you'll ever see
Speaker 1: in the NBA playoffs to barely scrape out two wins
Speaker 1: before you got your ass kicked in the other four games.
Speaker 1: So I think they're further away than people think, at
Speaker 1: least they were last year, and we'll see this year
Speaker 1: how committed they are to those details. All, let's move
Speaker 1: on to the mailbag. I saw in the Yovan Booja
Speaker 1: video that a lot of people were complaining about us
Speaker 1: talking about the Lakers. Again, I kind of give a
Speaker 1: speech like this every year. But a couple things. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I have a job to do, and that is to
Speaker 1: generate revenue, otherwise I don't get a job right, and
Speaker 1: so I have a certain obligation to cover the teams
Speaker 1: that have the largest fan bases. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of Lakers, it's gonna be a lot of Warriors,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of Celtics, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of knicks and heat and things along those lines, right.
Speaker 1: But the reality is, like I go five or six
Speaker 1: days a week, like we we do over three hours
Speaker 1: of NBA content every single week. And so even if
Speaker 1: an hour and a half of it is Lakers and Warriors,
Speaker 1: which it won't be, but like, let's just say a
Speaker 1: third of it is Lakers and Warriors, and let's say
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Warriors are in a lot of
Speaker 1: the titles and thumbnails and stuff, that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: that's all we're doing. I cover the entire league, like
Speaker 1: those of you guys who follow the show more diligently
Speaker 1: on a daily basis know that. And so one of
Speaker 1: the couple things one of the things we're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing this year is we're gonna use We're gonna put
Speaker 1: out multiple videos. So for instance, like if I have
Speaker 1: a show in the regular season that covers five games,
Speaker 1: we'll have the full show, but then we'll break off
Speaker 1: the portions of it that are the other teams so
Speaker 1: that you guys can find it more easily. But again,
Speaker 1: like you gotta remember, like most of the days, most
Speaker 1: of the NBA shows don't go daily, like they'll hit
Speaker 1: all the teams, but they'll go two or three times
Speaker 1: a week. Right, That's the advantage of going as often
Speaker 1: as we go is I can cover the super popular
Speaker 1: teams very diligently, but still offer pretty well rounded coverage
Speaker 1: of the rest of the league. So just stay to
Speaker 1: stay glued to the feeds. You'll see it parsed out
Speaker 1: better if you If you go to the YouTube channel
Speaker 1: and you see a thirty minute video and it's got
Speaker 1: Lebron's face on it, or it's got Steph Curry's face
Speaker 1: on it, chances are I'm not talking Lebron or Steph
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes. It's probably Lebron or staph for ten minutes,
Speaker 1: and then twenty minutes on the rest of the league.
Speaker 1: So again, like there there's there's a there's a business
Speaker 1: reality to the way this show is organized. But I
Speaker 1: do truly take it seriously that we cover the entire NBA,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to put in an enormous amount of
Speaker 1: work this year to make sure these other teams get covered.
Speaker 1: You just gotta understand that We have a marketing plan
Speaker 1: which is going to market to large fan bases because
Speaker 1: that's where the money is. But we are going to
Speaker 1: try to do a better job of making sure that
Speaker 1: the videos are are easier to find for the other
Speaker 1: teams as well. All Right, three mail back questions. What's
Speaker 1: up Jay dig the show big time when ring culture?
Speaker 1: With ring culture being such a huge swing factor in
Speaker 1: players legacies, how and where will Dane be placed if
Speaker 1: he wins a chip with Giannis Katie's chips are somewhat
Speaker 1: still in question to some because it wasn't his team.
Speaker 1: I'm curious how it will be viewed and what a
Speaker 1: chip could mean to his overall place in history. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever going to move, you know, into
Speaker 1: serious conversations with any of the guys that we think
Speaker 1: of as best players in this era. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: made one first team All NBA's that's a huge gap
Speaker 1: between him and some of his peers. He's kind of
Speaker 1: always just been considered a fringe All star, like a superstar,
Speaker 1: Like he's a superstar, but like in the bottom end
Speaker 1: of that tier. And so I mean, obviously becoming a
Speaker 1: champion would greatly improve for Yorlans all time. But I
Speaker 1: think he's a long long way away from being into
Speaker 1: any serious conversations with the guys at the top of
Speaker 1: the league. But like also a lot of it has
Speaker 1: to do with how it goes down, Like if Dame
Speaker 1: shoots forty two percent in the postseason and struggles and
Speaker 1: they barely get it done, and Giannis is a superhero,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna look as good as if he makes
Speaker 1: a ton of big shots and puts the team on
Speaker 1: his back and crunch time and kind of is clearly
Speaker 1: the one that puts him over the top. And so
Speaker 1: really that question has a bunch of layers to it,
Speaker 1: but the short version is, no matter what happens, he's
Speaker 1: not going to enter into any really serious conversations with
Speaker 1: the championship this year. Next question, funny enough, it's a
Speaker 1: more pointed version of the question you asked Jovan in
Speaker 1: regards to the Lakers need for a shot maker and
Speaker 1: or elite perimeter defender. Let's say the Bulls blow it
Speaker 1: up this year, should the Lakers pursue Zach Levine as
Speaker 1: a shot maker or Alex Cruso as an elite perimeter defender? Also,
Speaker 1: what other players do you think the Lakers should keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. So basically I talked about this with
Speaker 1: yo Von, But like, if you can get a shot
Speaker 1: maker that's a true top tier shot maker, someone like
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, then yeah, you gotta go for it. Like
Speaker 1: if the Mavericks just completely bottom out this year and
Speaker 1: Kyrie asked for a trade and the Lakers have the
Speaker 1: assets to make it happen, then you do something like
Speaker 1: that obviously because it just he's such a top tier
Speaker 1: shot creator. It would alleviate all of the Lakers issues
Speaker 1: on that end and make them a much more versatile team, right,
Speaker 1: No different than Dame joining the Milwaukee Bucks. Right, But
Speaker 1: if it's anybody less than that, I think you run
Speaker 1: the risk of shifting towards an identity that you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be as good at as the best teams in
Speaker 1: the league. So, like, given the choice between Levine and Caruso,
Speaker 1: I take Caruso. Why Because this is a Lakers team
Speaker 1: that desperately needs a perimeter defender that is a functional
Speaker 1: offensive player and that's what Alex Cruso is, And like
Speaker 1: that could put the Lakers over the top into being
Speaker 1: a truly elite, top tier defense Whereas right now they're
Speaker 1: capable of that, but they're missing some of the top
Speaker 1: you know, perimeter talent that they need to make that happen,
Speaker 1: right especially with the loss of Dennis Schroeder. So you know,
Speaker 1: given the choice between those two guys, like that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of like a perfect example of what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about at the deadline. If the Lakers have access to
Speaker 1: a top tier shot creator, you go get them. But
Speaker 1: if you can't, then I would go after an elite
Speaker 1: perimeter defender that rounds out your starting lineup. Uh, last
Speaker 1: mail back question. I hear a lot of players and
Speaker 1: coaches talk about. One of the main things they place
Speaker 1: an emphasis on is accountability. Are they talking about getting
Speaker 1: star players to buy in or what do they mean
Speaker 1: by that? Accountability is basically just like everybody in the
Speaker 1: entire locker room being bought in to what the expectations
Speaker 1: are from the staff. So like usually in a training camp,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I haven't been through an NBA training camp,
Speaker 1: but I've been through the college basketball version of training camp,
Speaker 1: and you know, like the serious programs that you go to,
Speaker 1: like you, like the last school I played out, like
Speaker 1: you you literally go up into classroom and they hand
Speaker 1: out binders, and the binders have like a clear breakdown
Speaker 1: of what expectations are off the court, a clear breakdown
Speaker 1: of expectations in terms of showing up to practice on
Speaker 1: time and what you know, like specific team rules, and
Speaker 1: then like you go through it and it's like then
Speaker 1: there's five or six things that the coach wants to
Speaker 1: set as like essentially your your core principles, and then
Speaker 1: like then it has all your plays in it, like
Speaker 1: as a playbook, and your base defensive concepts and like
Speaker 1: essentially that there's there's expectations laid out from day one,
Speaker 1: and then from there it's about holding people accountable to
Speaker 1: those expectations. Famously that that last year that I was
Speaker 1: playing at ACU, and when the coach handed out all
Speaker 1: that stuff, we had another meeting two days later in
Speaker 1: the same class classroom to go over one of our
Speaker 1: defensive concepts, and like half the players forgot to bring
Speaker 1: their binder and we immediately just went down to the
Speaker 1: floor and ran all day like like like because that
Speaker 1: was an example of him like trying to from day
Speaker 1: one set an expectation for what the rules are and
Speaker 1: make sure that the team understands that if they don't
Speaker 1: live up to those expectations, then there's going to be repercussions.
Speaker 1: That is accountability. Accountability is making sure that people understand
Speaker 1: if they do not obey whatever the rules are, whatever
Speaker 1: the expectations are, that there are consequences, whether that's getting
Speaker 1: called out in front of your team, whether that's having
Speaker 1: to run, whether that's a suspension or fine, like whatever
Speaker 1: that is. And at the pro level it's probably different
Speaker 1: than it was in college. But like, accountability is making
Speaker 1: sure that everybody in the roster sticks to those principles.
Speaker 1: So for instance, like let's say Frank Vogel wants to
Speaker 1: set you know, a defensive identity from day one in
Speaker 1: SUNS camp, like he can't make Josha Kog run over
Speaker 1: screens and scream at him every time he dies on
Speaker 1: the screen. But then let Bradley Bealll get away with it.
Speaker 1: It's got to be down the line accountability. Otherwise it
Speaker 1: sets a culture that the stars don't have to obey,
Speaker 1: which is gonna, you know, kind of foam in a
Speaker 1: bunch of other issues. So again, accountability is a vitally
Speaker 1: important part of any championship journey because if you don't
Speaker 1: have expectations and you don't stick to them, you're never
Speaker 1: gonna achieve your full potential as a bad basketball team.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, That is all I have for today
Speaker 1: is always I sincerely appreciate you supporting the show. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be back on Monday with a breakdown of the
Speaker 1: preseason games from this weekend, and then we'll get back
Speaker 1: to number four on the season previews on Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: then we'll do some more preseason breakdown on Wednesday. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys, and I will see you on Monday.
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