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Speaker 1: Everybody. Chris every with you on a brand new edition

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Speaker 1: of Chargers Weekly Free Agency Edition and my first guest,

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Speaker 1: a friend of the podcast. We actually did this when

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Speaker 1: you were working for the Kansas City Star Brooke prior

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Speaker 1: of ESPN joys, but she covers the Steelers broke first

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Speaker 1: and foremost house free agency treat you. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: fighter here than it was when I was in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City and they were signing Tyrn, Matthew and Frank Clark.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot more going than people coming to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: this time around. So it's I'm not used to this

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Speaker 1: quite yet. Yeah, that's right. Well, so we got Robbed

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Speaker 1: Demoski coming up to talk Corey Lindsley. But Matt Filer

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Speaker 1: coming to the Chargers. This is a guy who maybe

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Speaker 1: is a little bit unheralded when you talk about that

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Speaker 1: is past season. Yeah. I think unhalded is the perfect

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Speaker 1: word to describe Matt Feiler. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that was an undrafted free agent out of a

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that makes him so valuable and

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Speaker 1: the reason why the Chargers gave him a good contract

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Speaker 1: is that he's so versatile. I mean, he was the

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Speaker 1: right tackle in twenty nineteen, started there all season. Then

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Speaker 1: the Steelers had some guys retired leave guys like Ramone

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Speaker 1: Foster and b J. Finney, and they kicked him inside

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Speaker 1: the left guard and he started there all season. And

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Speaker 1: it looks like the Chargers are going to keep him

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Speaker 1: at guard if I'm reading things correctly. And they announced

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Speaker 1: him as a guard, which makes sense. He was a

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Speaker 1: really good guard. But I was watching film from him

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Speaker 1: can really move guys. So he's not you know, the

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Speaker 1: big sexy signing. He's not you know, the Corey Linsley signing.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's going to be really important in

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Speaker 1: you know, holding up the pocket, in protecting a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: no question, and steady. You just want somebody steady, a

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Speaker 1: steady presence there. If he's going to play left guard.

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Speaker 1: And then he goes from all pro center Marquise Pouncy

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Speaker 1: to all Pro center Corey Linsley, how important do you

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Speaker 1: think that is for him and maybe his decision making

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Speaker 1: next to Corey Lesley right exactly well, especially because Marquise

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Speaker 1: Pouncy is retiring, So I think he kind of saw

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Speaker 1: the writing on the wall there, like they're gonna start

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Speaker 1: to have this big turnover on the offensive line here.

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Speaker 1: And quite honestly, the offensive line really dropped in their production,

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was feeling the pressure. And I think that the

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Speaker 1: line in Pittsburgh needed a facelift and needed some new faces.

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Speaker 1: And that's going to start at center with Marquise Pouncy retiring.

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Speaker 1: And I think Matt Feiler said, you know what, this

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Speaker 1: was great. It worked out well here he had a

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Speaker 1: chance to prove himself. But now he's going to have

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Speaker 1: a chance to prove himself in a different kind of

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot different than protecting Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: And I think he got good experience here, but I

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Speaker 1: think it was just time for a change of scenery.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's it's a situation where it's going

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Speaker 1: the Steelers were interested in trying to bring him back,

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Speaker 1: but they just did not have the cap space. At

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Speaker 1: work out well for Matt Feiler to go out last

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Speaker 1: the way he developed in Pittsburgh, you know, undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 1: The Houston Texans sign him in twenty fourteen, but the

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Speaker 1: way he developed, was there a moment when you were

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Speaker 1: covering this team where you're like, Okay, you know, we

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Speaker 1: talked about Villaneueva, we talk about pouncy, but this Matt

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Speaker 1: Filer guy is on that tier of really good guards

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Speaker 1: you mentioned he's unheralded. Lines in general are pretty unheralded.

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Speaker 1: You only notice that they're really messing up, and Matt

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Speaker 1: Feiler doesn't have many of those situations. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think he had the fewest pressures allowed among guards last season.

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Speaker 1: So this is a guy who he's really really good

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Speaker 1: I think that that just speaks to how well he's

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Speaker 1: get adjusted to a new team. Absolutely, and you know,

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Speaker 1: But the AFC, Weston in general, I can ask you

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. When you look at what the Chargers are

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Speaker 1: doing just in the AFC, just the landscape you survey it.

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Speaker 1: You see Brandon Staley coming in, you have Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: of weeks you're going to bring in the AFC in

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Speaker 1: general with free agency, but your thoughts on where the

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Speaker 1: Chargers are right now with a new coach, a new

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Speaker 1: I like what the Charges are doing. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: long time. Everyone is chasing them. But I look at

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Speaker 1: City is also retooling their line, making some big moves,

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Speaker 1: bringing me in guys to protect Patrick Mahomes. But I

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Speaker 1: And you know, I look at what Justin Herbert did

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Speaker 1: offensively last year. He was putting up points with guys

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Speaker 1: like Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, but also some of these

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Speaker 1: undrafted guys Donald Parham and Jalen Giden. But defensively, that's

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Speaker 1: to slow them defensively. I mean, at this point, it

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Speaker 1: But that's the secret key. But I mean, the Bucks

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Speaker 1: Obviously wasn't the December and the January they were hoping for.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of the Steelers going into twenty

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Speaker 1: cap space, but just a track record of success in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: that is signaling, hey, we want to rebuild. We want

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Speaker 1: him with Alex Highsmith. I think that they're signaling he

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Speaker 1: we know that this is going to be a work

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