Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgetable
Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,
Speaker 1: rain drops on today's episode of Reality with the King. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know where I was when JR. Got shot on Dallas.
Speaker 1: I know where I was when Beyonce dropped her surprise album.
Speaker 1: I know where I was when Kimberle kardash shams on
Speaker 1: the cover of another magazine breaking the Internet bench.
Speaker 2: I know where I was with Dave Quinn Creative directed
Speaker 2: the digital cover that is leaving all of us gagging
Speaker 2: of Porsche Williams formerly Porsche Garbadia serving Angela Baca Tee
Speaker 2: waiting to excel character Honey with the cover of People
Speaker 2: Magazine cop this.
Speaker 3: Now People Magazine cover.
Speaker 1: Star Porsche Williams is ready to exhale. We have to
Speaker 1: talk to the journalist. Hey, Porsche pun attended Dave Quinn Concait, Honey, Carlos,
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 4: So thrilled that this is out and that you love
Speaker 4: it so much. Thank you so much for your kindness
Speaker 4: and for having me here. As always my favorite person
Speaker 4: to talk to.
Speaker 1: You not only have been my favorite person for so
Speaker 1: many years. What you have done CRUs while you are
Speaker 1: a pop culture not only enthusia, is but an icon
Speaker 1: in the journalist world. It we Okay, before we get
Speaker 1: into the details of the article where Porsche is set free.
Speaker 3: She's finally divorced. There's so much to.
Speaker 1: Break down with that, but Honey, bunty pudding Pie, we
Speaker 1: have to break down and listen. I am somebody who
Speaker 1: used to work at Kentucky for our chicken, making five
Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents an hour, and when my paycheck
Speaker 1: came every two weeks, Honey, I would save money to
Speaker 1: buy People magazine. So I am somebody that I want
Speaker 1: this cover in my home day who came up with
Speaker 1: this idea of having Porsche be Angela Bass's character and
Speaker 1: waiting to ex Hell.
Speaker 4: Listen, I say this humbly. This was all my idea.
Speaker 4: But listen, and here's why. Because we're talking to Porsha Williams.
Speaker 4: The concept of the story comes around She's gone through
Speaker 4: this really difficult divorce. It's her first time that she's
Speaker 4: going to be able to freely kind of speak about it.
Speaker 4: What do we do visually to capture that? And you know,
Speaker 4: decades before Porsche was making names on the Internet, and
Speaker 4: decades before it became one of the most infamous memes
Speaker 4: on the Internet itself, of this iconic meme of female empowerment,
Speaker 4: waiting to exhale was a cultural reset. You know. The
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five film, adapted from Terry McMillan's best selling novel,
Speaker 4: really gave voice to grief, resilience, self renewal, of black
Speaker 4: women navigating love and loss on their own terms. It
Speaker 4: offered this vision of healing, of heartbreak, of self discovery,
Speaker 4: of someone stepping into their own power. And I just
Speaker 4: thought it was so important that if we were going
Speaker 4: to look at Porsche as an example of what I
Speaker 4: consider to be black excellence in reality TV, why not
Speaker 4: carry her with something else that I really believe in
Speaker 4: the culture is the ultimate example of black excellence, of empowerment,
Speaker 4: of strength. So I wanted to frame her in these
Speaker 4: photos as not someone who was a victim, not someone
Speaker 4: who was centering herself in the image of a man.
Speaker 4: That was really important to me that she's her own
Speaker 4: woman and that we're really celebrating where she is at
Speaker 4: this place in her life, which is she's gone squarest man.
Speaker 4: She has stepped through that fire and she is really
Speaker 4: now rebirthing herself as a stronger, more powerful woman than
Speaker 4: ever before.
Speaker 1: I mean, the character that Angela Basta play, which is
Speaker 1: Bernadine Harris, is somebody that is infamously known with the
Speaker 1: car blow up scene, with being in the core. So
Speaker 1: talk to us about the images, because not only did
Speaker 1: you guys recreate the iconic scene where Bernardine Harris, played
Speaker 1: by Angela Bassett, blew up the from her ex husband,
Speaker 1: you guys also did a lot of iconic moments from
Speaker 1: the movie itself. So can you talk us through some
Speaker 1: of those creative concepts as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny. We were really thinking full scale here, right.
Speaker 4: Originally I was just like, we got to have her
Speaker 4: with the car scene, mimicking that incredible meme that we
Speaker 4: all know and love so well, and from there that
Speaker 4: sort of became the blueprint to what else can we do?
Speaker 4: To make it make sense and to sort of fill
Speaker 4: it all out. So we did that scene where Brendadette's
Speaker 4: in the mirror, she's sort of brushing her hair and
Speaker 4: her husband comes in to tell her that he's leaving her,
Speaker 4: and that sort of she has that moment of realization
Speaker 4: that it's all over. We did that scene. We did
Speaker 4: the scene in the courtroom where she sort of has
Speaker 4: her victory and has her justice, and it was great.
Speaker 4: I mean, we built all of this in a beautiful
Speaker 4: house in Atlanta, all of these incredible sets. The courtroom
Speaker 4: was built in like the corner of someone's living room essentially,
Speaker 4: and with porschaucked in and saw it, she said, I
Speaker 4: need a core room in my house. Like it was hilarious.
Speaker 4: And we also wanted to color that with other scenes
Speaker 4: that we believe were sort of mimicking the experience that
Speaker 4: Porch has been going through in her own life. So
Speaker 4: we built a scene that was really about her, you know,
Speaker 4: her empowerment in business, her owning Go Naked Hair, shout
Speaker 4: out Go Naked Hair, her pampered by Porsche, her pursuit
Speaker 4: of Porsche book, and sort of how she's focused on
Speaker 4: business and that's really done that and also how she's
Speaker 4: juggling all this as a mom. We got Polar on
Speaker 4: set and really did a great shot with Poar and
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, Carlos, of all the divas
Speaker 4: in the room that day, myself included, Polar was the one.
Speaker 3: Oh really, what was the giving she came with?
Speaker 4: She came with a writer. She said, I want donuts
Speaker 4: when I'm done, and there were donuts available for her
Speaker 4: when she was nothing. She knew what she wanted and
Speaker 4: she was such a joy. It was really fun to
Speaker 4: see Portrait in that motherhood moment and she's the sweetest girl.
Speaker 4: She's so so so. Yeah, we got to kind of
Speaker 4: do it all, but it was really fun, and afterwards
Speaker 4: Portrait said something. We sat down for our interview afterwards
Speaker 4: and talked for an hour, and she said, y'all really
Speaker 4: took me through it, like you took me through mimicking
Speaker 4: all of these setups for waiting to exhale really allowed
Speaker 4: her to process what she's been going through for the
Speaker 4: past year in the span of a day.
Speaker 1: Child, We are just getting started. This is reality with
Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: So let's get into that.
Speaker 1: Because for a housewive to get the cover story of
Speaker 1: the prestigious people Mad magazine. Like I said, I grew
Speaker 1: up on this magazine. Everybody from Jennifer Aniston to Halle
Speaker 1: Berry to Beyonce has graced the cover of this magazine.
Speaker 1: So to have Portia Williams do that, I know the
Speaker 1: article itself must be juicy. So what sort of tidbits
Speaker 1: did she give you day that we are looking forward
Speaker 1: to reading in this issue.
Speaker 4: Well, what I was really excited about when we built
Speaker 4: this digital cover is it gives a lot of freedom.
Speaker 4: You know, print covers are sort of sometimes limited by space,
Speaker 4: but we had so much room here to sort of
Speaker 4: grow and tell a full story. And we really talked
Speaker 4: about how she feels about this divorce, what got her
Speaker 4: to the point where she felt she needed to say goodbye.
Speaker 4: And it was interesting because a lot of what she
Speaker 4: said she couldn't say on The Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: She talked about the fact that filming this season because
Speaker 4: they were still going through proceedings, because she wasn't filming
Speaker 4: in her home because he was slapping her with defamation suits,
Speaker 4: and you know, they were in the midst of this
Speaker 4: really contentious divorce, there was a lot that she couldn't
Speaker 4: talk about, and now she really spills, She really lets
Speaker 4: it out. What was it that made her want to
Speaker 4: get out of this marriage? That from? I mean you
Speaker 4: and I I remember where we were. Also, when Portia
Speaker 4: announced that she was getting divorced, it was a shock
Speaker 4: to all of us because this looked like the happiest
Speaker 4: marriage of all time. So yeah, it really allowed her
Speaker 4: the space to talk.
Speaker 3: Did she talk to you?
Speaker 1: Because I do remember where we were when the divorce
Speaker 1: was announced And obviously Dave Kremp broke that exclusive too,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dam.
Speaker 3: It was going on here girl, Like what's happening?
Speaker 1: But what did Portia tell you about what led up
Speaker 1: to the moment of her deciding to file? Because it
Speaker 1: was something she thought about for months or weeks or
Speaker 1: was it for days before she filed.
Speaker 4: It really feels like this was something that she had
Speaker 4: seen signs of and decided I have to go. She
Speaker 4: knew when it was time to pull the trigger. She
Speaker 4: talks about Valentine's Day then having an argument and seeing
Speaker 4: a look on his face where she just knew it
Speaker 4: was done. You know, I asked her, how do you
Speaker 4: see the red flags? And she laughed, She's like, you're
Speaker 4: asking me, like, I don't see the red flags. I
Speaker 4: see you know, I always joke red flags in the
Speaker 4: shape of hearts, right, and she but she's learned through
Speaker 4: the experience she had with Cordel, through other experiences, that
Speaker 4: she needed to sort of take control. She talks about
Speaker 4: how she was blindsided by the Cordel divorce, but in
Speaker 4: this case, she was not going to be blindsided. She
Speaker 4: was going to step into her power and make those
Speaker 4: decisions for herself, and she really protected herself along the
Speaker 4: way to do those things.
Speaker 3: I do want to get No, no, no, it's.
Speaker 4: It's a very different Porsche than we've seen before, is
Speaker 4: what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: No, And I was gonna say that as well.
Speaker 1: In the sense of what we saw what she went
Speaker 1: through during season six, and I was the showrunner for
Speaker 1: that season, we saw the steps in terms of what
Speaker 1: she did not do when she decided to marry Cordell.
Speaker 3: She did sign a prenup.
Speaker 1: She pretty much, for all autism purposes, had no rights
Speaker 1: essentially during that marriage. This is her second one, and
Speaker 1: what we have learned is she did have a prenup
Speaker 1: that sort of worked in her favor. Can you talk
Speaker 1: to us about the new Porsche that was getting married
Speaker 1: for the second time and some of the smart things
Speaker 1: she decided to do this go around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that prenup is the smartest thing she decided to
Speaker 4: do this go around, made sure that she was legally
Speaker 4: where she needed to be, and that preenop is ultimately
Speaker 4: what got en forced. You know, the ruling that was
Speaker 4: decided on by the judge just on June eleventh, so
Speaker 4: very recently sided in her favor. And it's because of
Speaker 4: that that she gets to keep the house. It's because
Speaker 4: of that that she gets to sort of be in
Speaker 4: a place of peace with a lot of the contentious
Speaker 4: things that Simon's been going after her over. I also
Speaker 4: think that the thing that she did differently this time
Speaker 4: around is she's still grieving right now. She's very upset,
Speaker 4: but she seems to have found a way to separate
Speaker 4: her mind from her emotion. She made choices that were
Speaker 4: not driven by emotion, but by driven by protecting herself
Speaker 4: and being very clear headed about that. And it's only
Speaker 4: now talking to her that she's really grieving a lot
Speaker 4: of the things that are, you know, are the natural
Speaker 4: feelings that one gets at the loss of a relationship,
Speaker 4: you know. She says to me that she's really not
Speaker 4: ready yet to date other men, that people try to
Speaker 4: set her up and she just doesn't feel like she's there.
Speaker 4: She doesn't feel like she can trust men again right now.
Speaker 4: She says that she's really focusing on giving all that
Speaker 4: love that she gives to men that she loves giving
Speaker 4: in a relationship. She loves being the protector, the provider,
Speaker 4: the one who's going to cook your favorite meal, who's
Speaker 4: going to address you right, who's going to take care
Speaker 4: of you. She loves doing that, and she's now focusing
Speaker 4: that on herself, which I've been candid with you. It's
Speaker 4: been two years since I've been single and I'm still
Speaker 4: learning to do that. So to hear her talk about
Speaker 4: it was really inspiring to me to remind myself that
Speaker 4: we all need to be doing that for ourselves. But Carlos, ultimately,
Speaker 4: I think the thing that you find about Portia is
Speaker 4: that she recognizes that this season on Housewives, she wasn't herself.
Speaker 4: She was like, I went through that was the biggest
Speaker 4: shell for me. But she went through this season as
Speaker 4: a shell of a person. She says, She's like, I
Speaker 4: would go to work and just I don't even know
Speaker 4: who that person is. She watches the show and she
Speaker 4: has no concept for sort of how she was acting
Speaker 4: or what she was feeling. And it gives a lot
Speaker 4: of context in my perspective to the ongoing conflict she's
Speaker 4: having with Shemiah, because I feel as though Shmiah is
Speaker 4: a person who was very present and Porsha just was not.
Speaker 4: We all interpreted. I think a lot of the fans
Speaker 4: have interpreted as jealousy or as you know, feeling a
Speaker 4: certain way about holding the center peach and things like that,
Speaker 4: and how the season was going. I think that Porsha
Speaker 4: was just lost. I think she was just from what
Speaker 4: she says in the midst of hell and was clocking
Speaker 4: into work, going through the motions.
Speaker 1: Which is so interesting to me because what we're seeing
Speaker 1: this season on the show is a woman who decided
Speaker 1: to return back to the show after three year hiatus,
Speaker 1: and she said yes to returning while she was married
Speaker 1: and supposedly, just based on what we have seen, was
Speaker 1: in a good place at her marriage. Again, on all
Speaker 1: the details, did she explained to you if she had
Speaker 1: any regrets coming back to the show, because when she
Speaker 1: came back, she thought she would be coming back as
Speaker 1: a married woman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we talked, Actually, we honestly talked a
Speaker 4: little bit candidly behind the scenes about it. Wasn't necessarily
Speaker 4: part of my focus for the interview because I was
Speaker 4: much more interested in her reclaiming herself as as a
Speaker 4: woman after this sort of emotional loss than it was
Speaker 4: about her return to the show. But she very candidly said, remember,
Speaker 4: I was coming back to the show as Portia Gubadia.
Speaker 4: Porsha Williams wasn't coming back. It was Porsia Gubadia. That's
Speaker 4: how she announced it, and then it wasn't. I think
Speaker 4: that she's in a place now from our conversations where
Speaker 4: she's really excited to go back to filming and do
Speaker 4: it again because she's sort of gotten now the the
Speaker 4: ability to take a deep breath. I didn't realize until
Speaker 4: she really explained it to me how difficult it was
Speaker 4: to film an entire season not being in your house.
Speaker 4: And we've seen other housewives do this before, you know,
Speaker 4: we've seen plenty of housewives not film at their home.
Speaker 4: But the fact that she wasn't allowed to. She didn't
Speaker 4: really have that center thing holding her to the ground,
Speaker 4: so she felt like she wasn't able to really show
Speaker 4: who she was.
Speaker 1: Which makes a lot of sense because everybody's home is
Speaker 1: their sanctuary, it's your safe space. So the fact that
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't think about that as well, where
Speaker 1: you're not even able to be in your safe haven
Speaker 1: doing the job that you love, but also a job
Speaker 1: that is intense because you have to talk about uncomfortable things.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that until you said today. That is
Speaker 1: another sort of like mind fuck when you're shooting a
Speaker 1: reality show and the reality is I cannot film in
Speaker 1: my house. So one thing we do know is she
Speaker 1: her divorce is final. She did get award a lot
Speaker 1: of things in her prenuptial agreement. She said to you,
Speaker 1: she's not yet there in terms of dating. She's figured
Speaker 1: things out. You have covered Porsia since the inception of
Speaker 1: her on the show season five. What was your takeaway
Speaker 1: based on this interview and you being around her. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like Porscha is the black j Lo, the
Speaker 1: black list Taylor to where she's not ready today but
Speaker 1: she's a hopeless romantic or do you think Porsche is
Speaker 1: somebody who is relearning who she is, and there's a
Speaker 1: more stronger version of Porsche in the sense of dealing
Speaker 1: with the aftermath of this divorce that we will see
Speaker 1: next season on Housewives.
Speaker 4: Honestly, Carlos, I think both. I'm not going to put
Speaker 4: that label on her, I'll tell I'll say that I
Speaker 4: think that she's the Jennifer Lopeze Bravo because she does
Speaker 4: sort of have like that fullhearted, like hopeless, romantic, wants
Speaker 4: to be in love thing, and that's still inside of her.
Speaker 4: I did ask her if she's getting married again, and
Speaker 4: she's like, yeah, I would do it. You know, she's
Speaker 4: not closed that she wants to be a wife again.
Speaker 4: So that's very much still a part of who Portia is,
Speaker 4: and that, in that sense, lies I think with j Loo.
Speaker 4: I mean, the thing I love the most about her
Speaker 4: is that she loves so deeply and so hardly. You know,
Speaker 4: she goes all in on her things. But I do
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of strength and wisdom that she's
Speaker 4: going beamed. Just like you said, she's elevating herself in
Speaker 4: a way, she's really learning from it because she could
Speaker 4: have been sitting there saying, f this, dude, I'm out
Speaker 4: of here, you know what I mean, Like I deserve better,
Speaker 4: I'm dating this guy. I'm dating that guy. But that's
Speaker 4: not what she was saying. I mean, she was really saying,
Speaker 4: I took stock. What did I do to cause this?
Speaker 4: What role did I play in the end of this?
Speaker 4: How do I make better choices going forward? How can
Speaker 4: I learn to love myself right now so I can
Speaker 4: give to somebody and not give all of myself and
Speaker 4: giving different ways. I mean, this was stuff that was
Speaker 4: very different than I think we've seen before from her.
Speaker 4: And even at the end of the chat was she
Speaker 4: tried a lot. I messed those make I folded her
Speaker 4: a canvas stiller, bass at, crying goal, patitant, but made
Speaker 4: sure that she got what she needed. But no, I mean,
Speaker 4: she really opened up a lot, and she said after
Speaker 4: the end that she was glad that the interview wasn't
Speaker 4: about saying mean things about another person, that it was
Speaker 4: about really owning who she is. And in that moment,
Speaker 4: I was really proud of that myself. I just think
Speaker 4: you know this from working with her. Portia is somebody
Speaker 4: who has this amazing charisma and she has the ability.
Speaker 4: When she is in a good mood, everybody is in
Speaker 4: a good mood. She is so kind and loving and
Speaker 4: warm and fun and funny. But when she's hurting, you
Speaker 4: all feel that too. She can really dictate the temperature
Speaker 4: of her room, and it was great to have her
Speaker 4: in a place where I think she felt safe and
Speaker 4: comfortable to both be open and emotional and still have
Speaker 4: fun with it. She brought champagne for the entire crew.
Speaker 3: I've never seen anybody in my years and years and years.
Speaker 4: In the business, I've never seen a single celebrity end
Speaker 4: the day by celebrating everyone there with a toast.
Speaker 3: That says a lot for who she is. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: really does. And listen, it says a lot for who
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 1: The fact that you were able to get the exclusive
Speaker 1: interview with her, pulse her divorce and to be able
Speaker 1: to give her an iconic cover that she deserves. Dave Quinn,
Speaker 1: where can't people pick up this magating? What can I
Speaker 1: go find it? Because I do want people to still
Speaker 1: read the article, Because listen, Dave Quinn is an amazing journalist,
Speaker 1: and to know that he got the exclusive post Porsche
Speaker 1: signed off divorce means we are in.
Speaker 4: For a treat and it was great because we've we
Speaker 4: shot all this before Reunion even films, so I'm excited
Speaker 4: to watch Reunion to see what comes after that. We
Speaker 4: also got to talk to her from the set of
Speaker 4: The Traders, where you know that she's film next season
Speaker 4: of The Traders, because we had a follow up conversation
Speaker 4: with her afterwards, and I said to her, I said, Porsia,
Speaker 4: I know you're playing a game right now, but I'm
Speaker 4: glad to hear you already won. She got that win
Speaker 4: in right before. Yeah, we worked in her in her divorce,
Speaker 4: but we chatted from there. So it's it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a lot of fun for fantasy. The stories out right now.
Speaker 4: You can click on People dot com and find it
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Speaker 3: I am getting me a.
Speaker 1: Hard copy that I want to frame because that I
Speaker 1: mean seriously, that I kind of cover gave me chills
Speaker 1: and I screamed so loud when I saw it. Sotos
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Carlos. Now, but we can we
Speaker 4: just can we talk for a second because I want to.
Speaker 4: I have a lot of questions for you. I want
Speaker 4: to know.
Speaker 3: I've got so many questions.
Speaker 4: We need to catch up.
Speaker 3: We do need to catch up. Call me.
Speaker 4: I want to know what you think about Candace Dillard
Speaker 4: and pors being back together on Traders like no.
Speaker 3: But all just aside. Listen Canvas being on.
Speaker 1: Traders with Porsche when they both did Ultimate Girls Trip before.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what goes on there because
Speaker 1: that Canvas Honey is not want to play with, so
Speaker 1: to see who is zooming who between her and Porsche,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And I am so happy that Porsche
Speaker 1: decided to do Traders because it just goes to show
Speaker 1: you the profile of hers that is elevating, and they
Speaker 1: got somebody who's not only great TV. Porsche's no dummy,
Speaker 1: but that Kansasidy is savvy too.
Speaker 4: Well, wait, do you think either of them will be
Speaker 4: a trader.
Speaker 3: I don't see Canvas being a trader.
Speaker 1: I can see Porsche pulling it off because Frick and Frack,
Speaker 1: because you know, Phaser was one, so I can see
Speaker 1: that happening too.
Speaker 3: Portia.
Speaker 4: I rooting for Candas to be a trader just because
Speaker 4: I think she her talking heads are so funny. I
Speaker 4: don't just I want real good trader confessionals. And I
Speaker 4: think Phaedra was such a beautiful example of that, of
Speaker 4: how good it is on that show, So I'm sort
Speaker 4: of hoping for that. I mean, Mamma, Kelsey hain't gonna
Speaker 4: be a trader, you know what I mean. Like, it's
Speaker 4: gotta be someone attitude. It's gotta be someone who can
Speaker 4: give it up. And I feel like, well, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 4: I feel like Candace can give it up.
Speaker 3: Though I worry.
Speaker 4: I don't think she's I don't think the chess moves
Speaker 4: are there that you have to have. But she could
Speaker 4: be a fun burnout, you know what I mean. She
Speaker 4: can go out sweat.
Speaker 5: She'd be like I don't like you, You're dead. Like
Speaker 5: its good, in which case Portia better be careful. Oh baby,
Speaker 5: Portia has a. I have a live her life money,
Speaker 5: so I will just happened.
Speaker 3: She will be just fine.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm so happy those two are are doing
Speaker 1: Traders and listen, talk about another epic season of that show.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be great. And as I as I said
Speaker 4: to somebody who's on it this season, I'll remain meanless.
Speaker 4: I said, welcome to any winning show.
Speaker 1: But we also have to talk about, to your point,
Speaker 1: any winning soap opera world, Lisa Rena.
Speaker 4: Girl, you and I love Lisa Rena so much. The
Speaker 4: Lisa Renna apologists of the world are here to celebrate
Speaker 4: and scream. She is gonna be so good.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited that she's back.
Speaker 4: I mean yes, that for me, Lisa Renna being cast
Speaker 4: on that show, that was the best pride gift I
Speaker 4: could ever get. Thank you. We are celebrating.
Speaker 1: So that that alone got my like Antenna's running in
Speaker 1: terms of like cause, listen, no one is better television.
Speaker 1: No one is better at being a force multiplier in
Speaker 1: scenes that needs a little push of anomelope than Lisa Renna.
Speaker 1: And by her being an actress a great one at
Speaker 1: that soap opera.
Speaker 3: Daytime in me like amazing casting for Lisa Renna.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's She is definitely the headline for me. I'm
Speaker 4: thrilled that she's back in the mix. And I'm also
Speaker 4: thrilled to see how she interacts with people like poor Show,
Speaker 4: people like Candice, people like Derinda who I don't know
Speaker 4: I can see, I mean, Dorenda and Caroline Stanbury will
Speaker 4: be in good place, but like because they're good friends.
Speaker 4: But I don't know how she's just gonna do with
Speaker 4: Lisa Rena.
Speaker 1: Lisa Renna versus Derenda is the mussy TV of the year,
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Random versus Lisa render two women
Speaker 1: who do not hold back and don't give two f's.
Speaker 3: Let it go. That's your next cover, honey, that's your
Speaker 3: next cover.
Speaker 4: That's an excover. Will recreate something like what film will
Speaker 4: we recreate? We'll find something real good over Board by
Speaker 4: Goldie Hon I'm well, death becomes sir with Lisa.
Speaker 3: Listen. I love it, I love it, I love you,
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me so great catching up?
Speaker 3: No, thank you and I'll see you soon.
Speaker 4: All right, fine, thank you for.
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