1
00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

2
00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,960
Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

3
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,639
Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

4
00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,759
Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

5
00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,200
Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

6
00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,560
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgetable

7
00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:30,760
Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,

8
00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,640
Speaker 1: rain drops on today's episode of Reality with the King. Okay,

9
00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:42,279
Speaker 1: I know where I was when JR. Got shot on Dallas.

10
00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,199
Speaker 1: I know where I was when Beyonce dropped her surprise album.

11
00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,159
Speaker 1: I know where I was when Kimberle kardash shams on

12
00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,360
Speaker 1: the cover of another magazine breaking the Internet bench.

13
00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:02,000
Speaker 2: I know where I was with Dave Quinn Creative directed

14
00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,160
Speaker 2: the digital cover that is leaving all of us gagging

15
00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:13,600
Speaker 2: of Porsche Williams formerly Porsche Garbadia serving Angela Baca Tee

16
00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,520
Speaker 2: waiting to excel character Honey with the cover of People

17
00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,880
Speaker 2: Magazine cop this.

18
00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,240
Speaker 3: Now People Magazine cover.

19
00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:28,080
Speaker 1: Star Porsche Williams is ready to exhale. We have to

20
00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:37,040
Speaker 1: talk to the journalist. Hey, Porsche pun attended Dave Quinn Concait, Honey, Carlos,

21
00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:37,559
Speaker 1: I am.

22
00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,160
Speaker 4: So thrilled that this is out and that you love

23
00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,520
Speaker 4: it so much. Thank you so much for your kindness

24
00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,000
Speaker 4: and for having me here. As always my favorite person

25
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,440
Speaker 4: to talk to.

26
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,360
Speaker 1: You not only have been my favorite person for so

27
00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:57,520
Speaker 1: many years. What you have done CRUs while you are

28
00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,080
Speaker 1: a pop culture not only enthusia, is but an icon

29
00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,920
Speaker 1: in the journalist world. It we Okay, before we get

30
00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:11,400
Speaker 1: into the details of the article where Porsche is set free.

31
00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,000
Speaker 3: She's finally divorced. There's so much to.

32
00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 1: Break down with that, but Honey, bunty pudding Pie, we

33
00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:22,040
Speaker 1: have to break down and listen. I am somebody who

34
00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,400
Speaker 1: used to work at Kentucky for our chicken, making five

35
00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,320
Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents an hour, and when my paycheck

36
00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 1: came every two weeks, Honey, I would save money to

37
00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,480
Speaker 1: buy People magazine. So I am somebody that I want

38
00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,000
Speaker 1: this cover in my home day who came up with

39
00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,440
Speaker 1: this idea of having Porsche be Angela Bass's character and

40
00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,600
Speaker 1: waiting to ex Hell.

41
00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:57,239
Speaker 4: Listen, I say this humbly. This was all my idea.

42
00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,840
Speaker 4: But listen, and here's why. Because we're talking to Porsha Williams.

43
00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,919
Speaker 4: The concept of the story comes around She's gone through

44
00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,079
Speaker 4: this really difficult divorce. It's her first time that she's

45
00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,200
Speaker 4: going to be able to freely kind of speak about it.

46
00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,960
Speaker 4: What do we do visually to capture that? And you know,

47
00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,400
Speaker 4: decades before Porsche was making names on the Internet, and

48
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,520
Speaker 4: decades before it became one of the most infamous memes

49
00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,359
Speaker 4: on the Internet itself, of this iconic meme of female empowerment,

50
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,120
Speaker 4: waiting to exhale was a cultural reset. You know. The

51
00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,520
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five film, adapted from Terry McMillan's best selling novel,

52
00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,640
Speaker 4: really gave voice to grief, resilience, self renewal, of black

53
00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,600
Speaker 4: women navigating love and loss on their own terms. It

54
00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,320
Speaker 4: offered this vision of healing, of heartbreak, of self discovery,

55
00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,080
Speaker 4: of someone stepping into their own power. And I just

56
00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 4: thought it was so important that if we were going

57
00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,120
Speaker 4: to look at Porsche as an example of what I

58
00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,760
Speaker 4: consider to be black excellence in reality TV, why not

59
00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480
Speaker 4: carry her with something else that I really believe in

60
00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,280
Speaker 4: the culture is the ultimate example of black excellence, of empowerment,

61
00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,360
Speaker 4: of strength. So I wanted to frame her in these

62
00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,560
Speaker 4: photos as not someone who was a victim, not someone

63
00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,360
Speaker 4: who was centering herself in the image of a man.

64
00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,240
Speaker 4: That was really important to me that she's her own

65
00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,880
Speaker 4: woman and that we're really celebrating where she is at

66
00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,159
Speaker 4: this place in her life, which is she's gone squarest man.

67
00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,400
Speaker 4: She has stepped through that fire and she is really

68
00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,760
Speaker 4: now rebirthing herself as a stronger, more powerful woman than

69
00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:36,480
Speaker 4: ever before.

70
00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the character that Angela Basta play, which is

71
00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,760
Speaker 1: Bernadine Harris, is somebody that is infamously known with the

72
00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,080
Speaker 1: car blow up scene, with being in the core. So

73
00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,400
Speaker 1: talk to us about the images, because not only did

74
00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,080
Speaker 1: you guys recreate the iconic scene where Bernardine Harris, played

75
00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,520
Speaker 1: by Angela Bassett, blew up the from her ex husband,

76
00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,839
Speaker 1: you guys also did a lot of iconic moments from

77
00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,280
Speaker 1: the movie itself. So can you talk us through some

78
00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,560
Speaker 1: of those creative concepts as well.

79
00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny. We were really thinking full scale here, right.

80
00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,560
Speaker 4: Originally I was just like, we got to have her

81
00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,080
Speaker 4: with the car scene, mimicking that incredible meme that we

82
00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,680
Speaker 4: all know and love so well, and from there that

83
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,200
Speaker 4: sort of became the blueprint to what else can we do?

84
00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,800
Speaker 4: To make it make sense and to sort of fill

85
00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,680
Speaker 4: it all out. So we did that scene where Brendadette's

86
00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,640
Speaker 4: in the mirror, she's sort of brushing her hair and

87
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,640
Speaker 4: her husband comes in to tell her that he's leaving her,

88
00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,480
Speaker 4: and that sort of she has that moment of realization

89
00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,320
Speaker 4: that it's all over. We did that scene. We did

90
00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,360
Speaker 4: the scene in the courtroom where she sort of has

91
00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,200
Speaker 4: her victory and has her justice, and it was great.

92
00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,320
Speaker 4: I mean, we built all of this in a beautiful

93
00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,320
Speaker 4: house in Atlanta, all of these incredible sets. The courtroom

94
00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,719
Speaker 4: was built in like the corner of someone's living room essentially,

95
00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,359
Speaker 4: and with porschaucked in and saw it, she said, I

96
00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,880
Speaker 4: need a core room in my house. Like it was hilarious.

97
00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,320
Speaker 4: And we also wanted to color that with other scenes

98
00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,560
Speaker 4: that we believe were sort of mimicking the experience that

99
00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,279
Speaker 4: Porch has been going through in her own life. So

100
00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,320
Speaker 4: we built a scene that was really about her, you know,

101
00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,640
Speaker 4: her empowerment in business, her owning Go Naked Hair, shout

102
00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,520
Speaker 4: out Go Naked Hair, her pampered by Porsche, her pursuit

103
00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,680
Speaker 4: of Porsche book, and sort of how she's focused on

104
00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,080
Speaker 4: business and that's really done that and also how she's

105
00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,120
Speaker 4: juggling all this as a mom. We got Polar on

106
00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,120
Speaker 4: set and really did a great shot with Poar and

107
00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,760
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, Carlos, of all the divas

108
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:47,920
Speaker 4: in the room that day, myself included, Polar was the one.

109
00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,279
Speaker 3: Oh really, what was the giving she came with?

110
00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,000
Speaker 4: She came with a writer. She said, I want donuts

111
00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680
Speaker 4: when I'm done, and there were donuts available for her

112
00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,120
Speaker 4: when she was nothing. She knew what she wanted and

113
00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,279
Speaker 4: she was such a joy. It was really fun to

114
00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,840
Speaker 4: see Portrait in that motherhood moment and she's the sweetest girl.

115
00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,120
Speaker 4: She's so so so. Yeah, we got to kind of

116
00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,560
Speaker 4: do it all, but it was really fun, and afterwards

117
00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,320
Speaker 4: Portrait said something. We sat down for our interview afterwards

118
00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,920
Speaker 4: and talked for an hour, and she said, y'all really

119
00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,240
Speaker 4: took me through it, like you took me through mimicking

120
00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,760
Speaker 4: all of these setups for waiting to exhale really allowed

121
00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,400
Speaker 4: her to process what she's been going through for the

122
00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,520
Speaker 4: past year in the span of a day.

123
00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:48,920
Speaker 1: Child, We are just getting started. This is reality with

124
00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,400
Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

125
00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:52,960
Speaker 1: the show.

126
00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,960
Speaker 3: So let's get into that.

127
00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,600
Speaker 1: Because for a housewive to get the cover story of

128
00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,240
Speaker 1: the prestigious people Mad magazine. Like I said, I grew

129
00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,040
Speaker 1: up on this magazine. Everybody from Jennifer Aniston to Halle

130
00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,800
Speaker 1: Berry to Beyonce has graced the cover of this magazine.

131
00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,280
Speaker 1: So to have Portia Williams do that, I know the

132
00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,280
Speaker 1: article itself must be juicy. So what sort of tidbits

133
00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,400
Speaker 1: did she give you day that we are looking forward

134
00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,040
Speaker 1: to reading in this issue.

135
00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,520
Speaker 4: Well, what I was really excited about when we built

136
00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,120
Speaker 4: this digital cover is it gives a lot of freedom.

137
00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,360
Speaker 4: You know, print covers are sort of sometimes limited by space,

138
00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,520
Speaker 4: but we had so much room here to sort of

139
00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,320
Speaker 4: grow and tell a full story. And we really talked

140
00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,880
Speaker 4: about how she feels about this divorce, what got her

141
00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,720
Speaker 4: to the point where she felt she needed to say goodbye.

142
00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,000
Speaker 4: And it was interesting because a lot of what she

143
00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,240
Speaker 4: said she couldn't say on The Real Housewives of Atlanta.

144
00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,319
Speaker 4: She talked about the fact that filming this season because

145
00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,080
Speaker 4: they were still going through proceedings, because she wasn't filming

146
00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,040
Speaker 4: in her home because he was slapping her with defamation suits,

147
00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,280
Speaker 4: and you know, they were in the midst of this

148
00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,640
Speaker 4: really contentious divorce, there was a lot that she couldn't

149
00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,040
Speaker 4: talk about, and now she really spills, She really lets

150
00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,080
Speaker 4: it out. What was it that made her want to

151
00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,600
Speaker 4: get out of this marriage? That from? I mean you

152
00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,760
Speaker 4: and I I remember where we were. Also, when Portia

153
00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,080
Speaker 4: announced that she was getting divorced, it was a shock

154
00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,160
Speaker 4: to all of us because this looked like the happiest

155
00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,840
Speaker 4: marriage of all time. So yeah, it really allowed her

156
00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,760
Speaker 4: the space to talk.

157
00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,880
Speaker 3: Did she talk to you?

158
00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,040
Speaker 1: Because I do remember where we were when the divorce

159
00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,440
Speaker 1: was announced And obviously Dave Kremp broke that exclusive too,

160
00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dam.

161
00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,199
Speaker 3: It was going on here girl, Like what's happening?

162
00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:54,280
Speaker 1: But what did Portia tell you about what led up

163
00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,599
Speaker 1: to the moment of her deciding to file? Because it

164
00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,600
Speaker 1: was something she thought about for months or weeks or

165
00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,240
Speaker 1: was it for days before she filed.

166
00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640
Speaker 4: It really feels like this was something that she had

167
00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,200
Speaker 4: seen signs of and decided I have to go. She

168
00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,160
Speaker 4: knew when it was time to pull the trigger. She

169
00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,400
Speaker 4: talks about Valentine's Day then having an argument and seeing

170
00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,880
Speaker 4: a look on his face where she just knew it

171
00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,320
Speaker 4: was done. You know, I asked her, how do you

172
00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,559
Speaker 4: see the red flags? And she laughed, She's like, you're

173
00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,960
Speaker 4: asking me, like, I don't see the red flags. I

174
00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,439
Speaker 4: see you know, I always joke red flags in the

175
00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,400
Speaker 4: shape of hearts, right, and she but she's learned through

176
00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,120
Speaker 4: the experience she had with Cordel, through other experiences, that

177
00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,080
Speaker 4: she needed to sort of take control. She talks about

178
00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,640
Speaker 4: how she was blindsided by the Cordel divorce, but in

179
00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480
Speaker 4: this case, she was not going to be blindsided. She

180
00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,280
Speaker 4: was going to step into her power and make those

181
00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,920
Speaker 4: decisions for herself, and she really protected herself along the

182
00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 4: way to do those things.

183
00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,760
Speaker 3: I do want to get No, no, no, it's.

184
00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,840
Speaker 4: It's a very different Porsche than we've seen before, is

185
00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,640
Speaker 4: what I was gonna say.

186
00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,320
Speaker 3: No, And I was gonna say that as well.

187
00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,880
Speaker 1: In the sense of what we saw what she went

188
00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,360
Speaker 1: through during season six, and I was the showrunner for

189
00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,520
Speaker 1: that season, we saw the steps in terms of what

190
00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,680
Speaker 1: she did not do when she decided to marry Cordell.

191
00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,800
Speaker 3: She did sign a prenup.

192
00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,000
Speaker 1: She pretty much, for all autism purposes, had no rights

193
00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,440
Speaker 1: essentially during that marriage. This is her second one, and

194
00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,440
Speaker 1: what we have learned is she did have a prenup

195
00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,200
Speaker 1: that sort of worked in her favor. Can you talk

196
00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:51,040
Speaker 1: to us about the new Porsche that was getting married

197
00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,480
Speaker 1: for the second time and some of the smart things

198
00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,240
Speaker 1: she decided to do this go around.

199
00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that prenup is the smartest thing she decided to

200
00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,600
Speaker 4: do this go around, made sure that she was legally

201
00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,600
Speaker 4: where she needed to be, and that preenop is ultimately

202
00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,920
Speaker 4: what got en forced. You know, the ruling that was

203
00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,800
Speaker 4: decided on by the judge just on June eleventh, so

204
00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,760
Speaker 4: very recently sided in her favor. And it's because of

205
00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,439
Speaker 4: that that she gets to keep the house. It's because

206
00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,199
Speaker 4: of that that she gets to sort of be in

207
00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,199
Speaker 4: a place of peace with a lot of the contentious

208
00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,640
Speaker 4: things that Simon's been going after her over. I also

209
00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,480
Speaker 4: think that the thing that she did differently this time

210
00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,960
Speaker 4: around is she's still grieving right now. She's very upset,

211
00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,720
Speaker 4: but she seems to have found a way to separate

212
00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,880
Speaker 4: her mind from her emotion. She made choices that were

213
00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,679
Speaker 4: not driven by emotion, but by driven by protecting herself

214
00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,120
Speaker 4: and being very clear headed about that. And it's only

215
00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,920
Speaker 4: now talking to her that she's really grieving a lot

216
00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,440
Speaker 4: of the things that are, you know, are the natural

217
00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,160
Speaker 4: feelings that one gets at the loss of a relationship,

218
00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,840
Speaker 4: you know. She says to me that she's really not

219
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,120
Speaker 4: ready yet to date other men, that people try to

220
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,320
Speaker 4: set her up and she just doesn't feel like she's there.

221
00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,600
Speaker 4: She doesn't feel like she can trust men again right now.

222
00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,400
Speaker 4: She says that she's really focusing on giving all that

223
00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,640
Speaker 4: love that she gives to men that she loves giving

224
00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,840
Speaker 4: in a relationship. She loves being the protector, the provider,

225
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,680
Speaker 4: the one who's going to cook your favorite meal, who's

226
00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,680
Speaker 4: going to address you right, who's going to take care

227
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,320
Speaker 4: of you. She loves doing that, and she's now focusing

228
00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,240
Speaker 4: that on herself, which I've been candid with you. It's

229
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,800
Speaker 4: been two years since I've been single and I'm still

230
00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,360
Speaker 4: learning to do that. So to hear her talk about

231
00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,280
Speaker 4: it was really inspiring to me to remind myself that

232
00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,600
Speaker 4: we all need to be doing that for ourselves. But Carlos, ultimately,

233
00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,000
Speaker 4: I think the thing that you find about Portia is

234
00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,199
Speaker 4: that she recognizes that this season on Housewives, she wasn't herself.

235
00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760
Speaker 4: She was like, I went through that was the biggest

236
00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,240
Speaker 4: shell for me. But she went through this season as

237
00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,920
Speaker 4: a shell of a person. She says, She's like, I

238
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,880
Speaker 4: would go to work and just I don't even know

239
00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,280
Speaker 4: who that person is. She watches the show and she

240
00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,160
Speaker 4: has no concept for sort of how she was acting

241
00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,880
Speaker 4: or what she was feeling. And it gives a lot

242
00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,840
Speaker 4: of context in my perspective to the ongoing conflict she's

243
00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,320
Speaker 4: having with Shemiah, because I feel as though Shmiah is

244
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,640
Speaker 4: a person who was very present and Porsha just was not.

245
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,400
Speaker 4: We all interpreted. I think a lot of the fans

246
00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,640
Speaker 4: have interpreted as jealousy or as you know, feeling a

247
00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,360
Speaker 4: certain way about holding the center peach and things like that,

248
00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,800
Speaker 4: and how the season was going. I think that Porsha

249
00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,560
Speaker 4: was just lost. I think she was just from what

250
00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,080
Speaker 4: she says in the midst of hell and was clocking

251
00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,040
Speaker 4: into work, going through the motions.

252
00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,640
Speaker 1: Which is so interesting to me because what we're seeing

253
00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,760
Speaker 1: this season on the show is a woman who decided

254
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,160
Speaker 1: to return back to the show after three year hiatus,

255
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,240
Speaker 1: and she said yes to returning while she was married

256
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,040
Speaker 1: and supposedly, just based on what we have seen, was

257
00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,520
Speaker 1: in a good place at her marriage. Again, on all

258
00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,600
Speaker 1: the details, did she explained to you if she had

259
00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,400
Speaker 1: any regrets coming back to the show, because when she

260
00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,280
Speaker 1: came back, she thought she would be coming back as

261
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:26,920
Speaker 1: a married woman.

262
00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we talked, Actually, we honestly talked a

263
00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,560
Speaker 4: little bit candidly behind the scenes about it. Wasn't necessarily

264
00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,080
Speaker 4: part of my focus for the interview because I was

265
00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,600
Speaker 4: much more interested in her reclaiming herself as as a

266
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,040
Speaker 4: woman after this sort of emotional loss than it was

267
00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,440
Speaker 4: about her return to the show. But she very candidly said, remember,

268
00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,080
Speaker 4: I was coming back to the show as Portia Gubadia.

269
00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,480
Speaker 4: Porsha Williams wasn't coming back. It was Porsia Gubadia. That's

270
00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,080
Speaker 4: how she announced it, and then it wasn't. I think

271
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,960
Speaker 4: that she's in a place now from our conversations where

272
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,440
Speaker 4: she's really excited to go back to filming and do

273
00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,680
Speaker 4: it again because she's sort of gotten now the the

274
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,120
Speaker 4: ability to take a deep breath. I didn't realize until

275
00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,360
Speaker 4: she really explained it to me how difficult it was

276
00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,080
Speaker 4: to film an entire season not being in your house.

277
00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,040
Speaker 4: And we've seen other housewives do this before, you know,

278
00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600
Speaker 4: we've seen plenty of housewives not film at their home.

279
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,320
Speaker 4: But the fact that she wasn't allowed to. She didn't

280
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,120
Speaker 4: really have that center thing holding her to the ground,

281
00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,440
Speaker 4: so she felt like she wasn't able to really show

282
00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,240
Speaker 4: who she was.

283
00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,480
Speaker 1: Which makes a lot of sense because everybody's home is

284
00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,600
Speaker 1: their sanctuary, it's your safe space. So the fact that

285
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't think about that as well, where

286
00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,160
Speaker 1: you're not even able to be in your safe haven

287
00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,840
Speaker 1: doing the job that you love, but also a job

288
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 1: that is intense because you have to talk about uncomfortable things.

289
00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,480
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that until you said today. That is

290
00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,399
Speaker 1: another sort of like mind fuck when you're shooting a

291
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,040
Speaker 1: reality show and the reality is I cannot film in

292
00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,080
Speaker 1: my house. So one thing we do know is she

293
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,159
Speaker 1: her divorce is final. She did get award a lot

294
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,520
Speaker 1: of things in her prenuptial agreement. She said to you,

295
00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,399
Speaker 1: she's not yet there in terms of dating. She's figured

296
00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,800
Speaker 1: things out. You have covered Porsia since the inception of

297
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,600
Speaker 1: her on the show season five. What was your takeaway

298
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,080
Speaker 1: based on this interview and you being around her. Do

299
00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:38,200
Speaker 1: you feel like Porscha is the black j Lo, the

300
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,119
Speaker 1: black list Taylor to where she's not ready today but

301
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,640
Speaker 1: she's a hopeless romantic or do you think Porsche is

302
00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:51,600
Speaker 1: somebody who is relearning who she is, and there's a

303
00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,720
Speaker 1: more stronger version of Porsche in the sense of dealing

304
00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,720
Speaker 1: with the aftermath of this divorce that we will see

305
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,520
Speaker 1: next season on Housewives.

306
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,160
Speaker 4: Honestly, Carlos, I think both. I'm not going to put

307
00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 4: that label on her, I'll tell I'll say that I

308
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,880
Speaker 4: think that she's the Jennifer Lopeze Bravo because she does

309
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 4: sort of have like that fullhearted, like hopeless, romantic, wants

310
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,000
Speaker 4: to be in love thing, and that's still inside of her.

311
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,359
Speaker 4: I did ask her if she's getting married again, and

312
00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,359
Speaker 4: she's like, yeah, I would do it. You know, she's

313
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 4: not closed that she wants to be a wife again.

314
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,800
Speaker 4: So that's very much still a part of who Portia is,

315
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,679
Speaker 4: and that, in that sense, lies I think with j Loo.

316
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,919
Speaker 4: I mean, the thing I love the most about her

317
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,040
Speaker 4: is that she loves so deeply and so hardly. You know,

318
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,359
Speaker 4: she goes all in on her things. But I do

319
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,920
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of strength and wisdom that she's

320
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,320
Speaker 4: going beamed. Just like you said, she's elevating herself in

321
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 4: a way, she's really learning from it because she could

322
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,640
Speaker 4: have been sitting there saying, f this, dude, I'm out

323
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 4: of here, you know what I mean, Like I deserve better,

324
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm dating this guy. I'm dating that guy. But that's

325
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,639
Speaker 4: not what she was saying. I mean, she was really saying,

326
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 4: I took stock. What did I do to cause this?

327
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,159
Speaker 4: What role did I play in the end of this?

328
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 4: How do I make better choices going forward? How can

329
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 4: I learn to love myself right now so I can

330
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 4: give to somebody and not give all of myself and

331
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 4: giving different ways. I mean, this was stuff that was

332
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 4: very different than I think we've seen before from her.

333
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 4: And even at the end of the chat was she

334
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 4: tried a lot. I messed those make I folded her

335
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:38,400
Speaker 4: a canvas stiller, bass at, crying goal, patitant, but made

336
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 4: sure that she got what she needed. But no, I mean,

337
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 4: she really opened up a lot, and she said after

338
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 4: the end that she was glad that the interview wasn't

339
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 4: about saying mean things about another person, that it was

340
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 4: about really owning who she is. And in that moment,

341
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 4: I was really proud of that myself. I just think

342
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 4: you know this from working with her. Portia is somebody

343
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 4: who has this amazing charisma and she has the ability.

344
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 4: When she is in a good mood, everybody is in

345
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 4: a good mood. She is so kind and loving and

346
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 4: warm and fun and funny. But when she's hurting, you

347
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 4: all feel that too. She can really dictate the temperature

348
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 4: of her room, and it was great to have her

349
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 4: in a place where I think she felt safe and

350
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 4: comfortable to both be open and emotional and still have

351
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 4: fun with it. She brought champagne for the entire crew.

352
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 3: I've never seen anybody in my years and years and years.

353
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 4: In the business, I've never seen a single celebrity end

354
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 4: the day by celebrating everyone there with a toast.

355
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: That says a lot for who she is. Yeah, it

356
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: really does. And listen, it says a lot for who

357
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: you are.

358
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: The fact that you were able to get the exclusive

359
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: interview with her, pulse her divorce and to be able

360
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 1: to give her an iconic cover that she deserves. Dave Quinn,

361
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: where can't people pick up this magating? What can I

362
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: go find it? Because I do want people to still

363
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: read the article, Because listen, Dave Quinn is an amazing journalist,

364
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: and to know that he got the exclusive post Porsche

365
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: signed off divorce means we are in.

366
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 4: For a treat and it was great because we've we

367
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 4: shot all this before Reunion even films, so I'm excited

368
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 4: to watch Reunion to see what comes after that. We

369
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 4: also got to talk to her from the set of

370
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 4: The Traders, where you know that she's film next season

371
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 4: of The Traders, because we had a follow up conversation

372
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 4: with her afterwards, and I said to her, I said, Porsia,

373
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 4: I know you're playing a game right now, but I'm

374
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 4: glad to hear you already won. She got that win

375
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: in right before. Yeah, we worked in her in her divorce,

376
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: but we chatted from there. So it's it's gonna be

377
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,239
Speaker 4: a lot of fun for fantasy. The stories out right now.

378
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: You can click on People dot com and find it

379
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 4: all on our socials and our issue will be a

380
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 4: newstands this Friday.

381
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: A man to that another exclusive from the amazing Deve

382
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: Quinn over at People Magazine. Rain Droffs, make sure you're

383
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: on People dot com to read the article and on

384
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: Friday listen journalism is still alive and start a magazine,

385
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: So please pick up the magazine on newsstands wherever you're

386
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: able to get them.

387
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: I am getting me a.

388
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: Hard copy that I want to frame because that I

389
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 1: mean seriously, that I kind of cover gave me chills

390
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: and I screamed so loud when I saw it. Sotos

391
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: Kutos an amazing magazine. Listen more to come from you guys,

392
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: great stuff.

393
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Carlos. Now, but we can we

394
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 4: just can we talk for a second because I want to.

395
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: I have a lot of questions for you. I want

396
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 4: to know.

397
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 3: I've got so many questions.

398
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 4: We need to catch up.

399
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: We do need to catch up. Call me.

400
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: I want to know what you think about Candace Dillard

401
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: and pors being back together on Traders like no.

402
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: But all just aside. Listen Canvas being on.

403
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 1: Traders with Porsche when they both did Ultimate Girls Trip before.

404
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what goes on there because

405
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: that Canvas Honey is not want to play with, so

406
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: to see who is zooming who between her and Porsche,

407
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And I am so happy that Porsche

408
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: decided to do Traders because it just goes to show

409
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: you the profile of hers that is elevating, and they

410
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: got somebody who's not only great TV. Porsche's no dummy,

411
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: but that Kansasidy is savvy too.

412
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: Well, wait, do you think either of them will be

413
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 4: a trader.

414
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: I don't see Canvas being a trader.

415
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: I can see Porsche pulling it off because Frick and Frack,

416
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: because you know, Phaser was one, so I can see

417
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: that happening too.

418
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 3: Portia.

419
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: I rooting for Candas to be a trader just because

420
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: I think she her talking heads are so funny. I

421
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: don't just I want real good trader confessionals. And I

422
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: think Phaedra was such a beautiful example of that, of

423
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 4: how good it is on that show, So I'm sort

424
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 4: of hoping for that. I mean, Mamma, Kelsey hain't gonna

425
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 4: be a trader, you know what I mean. Like, it's

426
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 4: gotta be someone attitude. It's gotta be someone who can

427
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: give it up. And I feel like, well, yes, go ahead.

428
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: I feel like Candace can give it up.

429
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 3: Though I worry.

430
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't think she's I don't think the chess moves

431
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: are there that you have to have. But she could

432
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 4: be a fun burnout, you know what I mean. She

433
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 4: can go out sweat.

434
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 5: She'd be like I don't like you, You're dead. Like

435
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 5: its good, in which case Portia better be careful. Oh baby,

436
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: Portia has a. I have a live her life money,

437
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 5: so I will just happened.

438
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 3: She will be just fine.

439
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: But no, I'm so happy those two are are doing

440
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Traders and listen, talk about another epic season of that show.

441
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna be great. And as I as I said

442
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: to somebody who's on it this season, I'll remain meanless.

443
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: I said, welcome to any winning show.

444
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: But we also have to talk about, to your point,

445
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: any winning soap opera world, Lisa Rena.

446
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: Girl, you and I love Lisa Rena so much. The

447
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: Lisa Renna apologists of the world are here to celebrate

448
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 4: and scream. She is gonna be so good.

449
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm so excited that she's back.

450
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: I mean yes, that for me, Lisa Renna being cast

451
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: on that show, that was the best pride gift I

452
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: could ever get. Thank you. We are celebrating.

453
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: So that that alone got my like Antenna's running in

454
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: terms of like cause, listen, no one is better television.

455
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: No one is better at being a force multiplier in

456
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: scenes that needs a little push of anomelope than Lisa Renna.

457
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: And by her being an actress a great one at

458
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: that soap opera.

459
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: Daytime in me like amazing casting for Lisa Renna.

460
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's She is definitely the headline for me. I'm

461
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 4: thrilled that she's back in the mix. And I'm also

462
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 4: thrilled to see how she interacts with people like poor Show,

463
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 4: people like Candice, people like Derinda who I don't know

464
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 4: I can see, I mean, Dorenda and Caroline Stanbury will

465
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: be in good place, but like because they're good friends.

466
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: But I don't know how she's just gonna do with

467
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: Lisa Rena.

468
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Lisa Renna versus Derenda is the mussy TV of the year,

469
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Random versus Lisa render two women

470
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: who do not hold back and don't give two f's.

471
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: Let it go. That's your next cover, honey, that's your

472
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: next cover.

473
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: That's an excover. Will recreate something like what film will

474
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: we recreate? We'll find something real good over Board by

475
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: Goldie Hon I'm well, death becomes sir with Lisa.

476
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: Listen. I love it, I love it, I love you,

477
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: I love you.

478
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me so great catching up?

479
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: No, thank you and I'll see you soon.

480
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 4: All right, fine, thank you for.

481
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 3: Listening to Reality with the Kings.

482
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: New episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays, Share, comment, follow

483
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: and subscribe to Reality with the King.

484
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: Wherever you get to your podcast.

485
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: Visit Reality withthe King dot com and be sure to

486
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter,

487
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: TikTok and Yes Baby, my YouTube channel where you could

488
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: get all of my visuals, Baby, my expressions, Yes, and

489
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: don't forget. Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about

490
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: this episode using the hashtag Reality with the King. Reality

491
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: with the King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment,

492
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: an executive produced by me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment,

493
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Baby