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Speaker 1: Welcome back, all the smoke and the beautiful Blue Wire

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Speaker 1: studio in the wind Hotel, All the smoke time, Nascar. Man,

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Speaker 1: We've got a very special guest today. You know, someone

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Speaker 1: I've looked up to in this sport because this is

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Speaker 1: not really a sport for our people, and this guy

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Speaker 1: has definitely held it down for all of us. So

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show today, Bubba Wallace. What up, Bubba Man?

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Ye man, how are you man?

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Speaker 1: We're good, We're good. How's life You told you got

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Speaker 1: into town wednesday, you got a chance to play some golf,

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Speaker 1: you got a big race this weekend. What's what's going

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Speaker 1: on in your personal life right now? Uh? Life is

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Speaker 1: actually really good. My fiance we flew out here with

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Speaker 1: another couple that we're really good friends with, and um,

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Speaker 1: just come out here to relax a little bit. Kind

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Speaker 1: of hard to do in Vegas, right, So up beat here,

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Speaker 1: but um just getting away from the maddis for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I've played seventy two holes in the last

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Speaker 1: four days. Yeah, I'm trying to uh this the end

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Speaker 1: of the season's creeping up, so we're kind of getting

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Speaker 1: a little antsy ready for it to end um. But man,

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Speaker 1: we've been really solid second half the year and it's

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Speaker 1: been fun talks. As we learned today when we did

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Speaker 1: a little pace car I didn't know your guys a

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Speaker 1: seasons from January Thumost November mid November. So we are

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Speaker 1: the first week of February to the first week of November.

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Speaker 1: That's a long with one week. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 1: one office so every week and you guys are racing somewhere.

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Speaker 1: That's right, always on the road. What a mental ground.

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Speaker 1: You also mentioned your fiance. Congratulations, you got a wedding

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Speaker 1: date set. Yeah, yeah, I just got married last year. Yeah, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Brother is right, Yeah, trying to be there, you go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: our date is New Year's Eve, So I mean we

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Speaker 1: have a small window where we can pick from unless

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Speaker 1: we do a midweek wedding, but not everybody on a

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Speaker 1: guest lists can make that happen. So we're doing New

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve and we're excited about that. No, we're doing it, Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: Our guest list is yeah, so it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: of it. Going to raise in Mobile, Alabama. Talk about

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Speaker 1: your upbringing what was like, Yeah, so I was born

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Speaker 1: So the last twenty seven years, Um, mobile is just

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Speaker 1: Hell no, really I didn't didn't watch it, didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: not a negative way. I didn't care for it. Like

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, hey, NASCAR's next. It's like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: But they've all been big helps. And they're like, hey,

423
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: this is what I did in your situation twenty years ago.

424
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: You need to do this, this and this, and it's

425
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: like man, this you know, but yeah, this is the

426
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: new age stuff, but it still carries a lot of

427
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: weight and a lot of power behind what they say.

428
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: So it's cool thing. Yeah, you joined M M J

429
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: and N by also Danny Ham. How did they reach out?

430
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: So Danny, Danny and I share the same agent, and

431
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: so Danny and I we've we've been around each other.

432
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: We've had some run ins throughout the years. And it

433
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: all started kind of, you know, the race team that

434
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: I was with the forty three, they were looking to

435
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: do something new and kind of changed the game and

436
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: and and rebrand basically, and they wanted Denny to be

437
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: a part of it in some capacity. And the way

438
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: it all kind of worked out, like rumor mills start,

439
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: you can't control the rumor mill bullshit right. Well, then

440
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: it was like Dinny Haml and MJ starting a team,

441
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: which was it wasn't even true. It to no, no,

442
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: it's nothing. And so Denny fired a text to MJ.

443
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: It was like, look at this, look at this crazy tweet,

444
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, and m J spotted back, well, let me

445
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: know when you want to make appen, probably off the tequila,

446
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 1: like let's make it. Yeah, and it was like okay,

447
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: and so in at the meantime, I'm still trying to

448
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: figure out I had a couple options on the table

449
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: um and it was like okay. And then Denny starting

450
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: to text me like hey man, you know we're this

451
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: this may happen, and I'll never forget what I sent

452
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: him is. He was like, dude, this has happened, is it?

453
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: This is It's gonna be great. And I sent him

454
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: the Kobe Bryant video one where he's in the press

455
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: conference and he's not smiling. The reporter asked, He's like, hey,

456
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: managed up to one, like job's not finished. I've had

457
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of moments like hey man,

458
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen, like you're about to be a star.

459
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: And then call them on Monday, Hey what happened? They're like,

460
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, I talk to you later. So I've

461
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: been let down so many times and so I was like, hey, man,

462
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: no disrespect, but sending that video, I said, when it's

463
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: finished and I'm signed, we can go celebrate. Question like,

464
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: so when do you guys you said you have to

465
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: do you Is it like free agency somewhat or how

466
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: does that changing teams kind of stuff work? Yes, somewhat. Um,

467
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, we lock in. You know, drivers sometimes lock

468
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: in five years, one year, two years and the silly

469
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: season this was what we call it there at the

470
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: end and drivers will you know, exercise the options, see

471
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: what's see what's available from them. So I think the

472
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: biggest one this year so far as is Kyle Busch,

473
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: who's been a Toyota teammate of mine for the last

474
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: two years but been driving the eighteen Eminem's car for

475
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: the last I don't even know, eighteen years, maybe longer

476
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: than that, And it came to track the year and

477
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: it was like, wow, Ile is not gonna be back

478
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: in the eight team and so he just signed a

479
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: deal with a new team. So it's kind of it's

480
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: a big, big change yeah, a guy of that stature. Yeah,

481
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: you can have you can drive cars for a long time.

482
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: What is is there an average? I mean, I know,

483
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: with the average, I mean if you're good, yeah, I

484
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: don't know, like the our oldest in the field is

485
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: forty four and still like still getting it done. I

486
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: mean we've had guys racist when they're seventy and eighty,

487
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: not nineties, but set in their seventies really, but they're

488
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: just kind of yeah they can just because they can.

489
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: They'd love it, right, I mean, hell, you love it?

490
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: Keep doing it up though, Yeah, Yeah, any funny stories

491
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: or he tells any stories you had running with m

492
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: j U m j UM. I thought it was I

493
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: thought it was really cool of how it how it

494
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: all came about. Um. Then he went down to play

495
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: at the growth and uh, he texts me. He's like, hey,

496
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: what are you doing at six thirty. I was like, nothing,

497
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: sit on the couch, all right, I'm gonna calling you.

498
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there six thirty, six forty five. Then

499
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: he's notoriously late six seven o'clock, rolls around calls me, hey,

500
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I was like, sitting on the

501
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: couch because here somebody wants to talk to you. It

502
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: was m J. This is my first time I ever

503
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: talking to m Jack And he said, hey, if we

504
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: do this deal, right, no more running in the back,

505
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: like alright, digging at me. And I'm like, all right,

506
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: sounds good. Yeah, okay, So I thought that was pretty special. Um,

507
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: but m J. Man, he's just he's competitive and uh

508
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: loves to loves to poke the bearon bet against you

509
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: and uh just just to push it, just just to motivation.

510
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: And he'll he'll like in the moment he's you know,

511
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: joking around and hey, I'll bet against you here. But

512
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: then he'll pull you aside and he's like, you know

513
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: what I'm doing right, and then get results and he'll

514
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: be like he did that to us in practice. So

515
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he knew what he was doing when

516
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: he was a race weekend. When you're getting ready to

517
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: go into a race weekend, music wise, what you listening to? Man,

518
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm different. I'm into the heavy metal stuff. Metal cores

519
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: of stuff you can't understand when they're screaming and shouting

520
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: the energy. Yeah, but it honestly, it's it does the

521
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what they're outputting, Like it calms me down. Interesting.

522
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: So we always call it angry music for happy people.

523
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: And it's something that I found in two thousand four

524
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: or five, and I liked it mostly because of the drumming.

525
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: I have a drum set at home. I like to

526
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: walk around a little bit every once in a while,

527
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: and it was nice. It was easy for me to

528
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: shut out the words and just listen to the drum

529
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: track and try to replicate that. Like. I enjoyed that,

530
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: Like that was cool. And then the more and more

531
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: I got into it, got to know some bands and

532
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: appreciate more the music and the art of it and

533
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: how normal they are outside of the performance, and then

534
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: they just turned into a maniac and so it's like

535
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: the whole respect level has gone up for them. But man,

536
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: just the breakdowns. The breakdowns were the best part of

537
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: that music. And they put you in this mindset where

538
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: like you can't be messed with, And so I enjoyed that.

539
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: But I enjoy all types of music. Really, I got

540
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: one room. Don't touch my drums set. I might put

541
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: my nuts on your drums. Did you touch my drum set?

542
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got a lot of victories. What's the

543
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: sweetest any anyone stand out, Um, I'd say all all

544
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: of them are very important to me. My first truck

545
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: win at the national level, you know, that was big.

546
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: That was you know, late in the season, not really

547
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: the best of seasons racing for Kyle Bush and his

548
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: truck team. He's winning every time he gets in the truck.

549
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: And then we went out and won martin Zille and

550
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: like that was like, hell, yeah, we did it. And

551
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: then we show up the next year we won four

552
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: more and then since uh I was winless and then

553
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: this one's probably number one. Going into that season, lack

554
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: of funding, lack of sponsorship. From the rip of the

555
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: start of the year, it was like, I don't know

556
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be able to race all the way

557
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: throughout the year. We're gonna go until we can't know more.

558
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: So it's like okay, and just so happens, we put

559
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: together our best year. Were fourth in the points at

560
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: race number eight and going into Kansas, the forty three

561
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: car in the Cup race, the driver at that time

562
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: broke his back and a crash and that was a

563
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: forward car. I was driving from fourth at the time

564
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: and got on the phone. I was like, I hope

565
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: he's all right, but I need to be in that ride.

566
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: I want to fill in, you know, until he gets back.

567
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: And so agents were working on it and through all

568
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: that stuff and all worked out by I think it

569
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: was race number eleven or twelve. UH. We got the

570
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: call like, hey, it's your times next weekend at Pocono

571
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: to drive the forty three. But hey, also, you're done

572
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: racing Xfinity, Like we're shutting it down. So it's like

573
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna be out of a ride. But for the

574
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: next four year in so I was a substitute and

575
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: put together our best races. It was good. And then

576
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: they were like Eric's back, the guy who broke his back,

577
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: he's back, So thanks for your time, see you later.

578
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: I was on the couch. I was on the couch

579
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: from UH late July two August or September. It was

580
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: like four or five weeks. I was on the couch.

581
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Then Michigan rolled around and a team called a truck

582
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: team called and he said, hey, we want you to

583
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: come drive my truck. I was like okay, and we

584
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: went out there and we won it. And so it

585
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: was four years, three years of just getting kicked in

586
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: the dirt, and it was like Boom obviously won. I

587
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: had that one race I won. Then I was back

588
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: on the couch, so I was like, damn, I know,

589
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: I still got it. We went to work and I

590
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: got a cup ride the next year driving the forty three,

591
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: and then the second one. Talla Diego was big last year,

592
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: but this passed when at Kansas just because of the

593
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: way the racing was. We dominated the last third of

594
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: that race and we wont in that fashion, and it

595
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: was one of those It's like, okay, no more. If

596
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I could say sh about this one. You know, Talla

597
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Diego was a rain short and race. We knew it

598
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: was gonna rain, and we drove up to the field

599
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: and took the lead and rain fell and races over

600
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: with right. But we always had that bullshit like you

601
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: always had the asteria inside that because you didn't go

602
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: the full distance. Even I put Astra inside it. But

603
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: the races where I was doing bad, I would be like, yeah,

604
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: you only want that because you because it rained. You know,

605
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: I'd become a hater myself. I'm like my biggest enemy

606
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: but also my biggest cheerleader at the same time, and Kansas,

607
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: I can't even say ship to myself. On that one

608
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: because it's like we did it, we did it right.

609
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: So that one two high ups. I got two questions.

610
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Are you saying truck team because the truck the name

611
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: of the drivers on the truck. Why are you saying

612
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: why do you keep saying truck? So the truck series.

613
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: So there's three cities, there's three levels when you get

614
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: to uh NASCAR. So for ball I would go, I

615
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: would go maybe maybe high school or Juco and then

616
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: collegiate ball and then pros pros Cup. Right what we

617
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: race on Sunday, Xfinity is collegiate and then truck is Juco,

618
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: high School. And so that's the levels where you get

619
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: to and it's a stepping stone. Some kids can come

620
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: up through because they got money and boom to the top,

621
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: but their experience shows. And I don't know if the

622
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: answer how many races in this season two exhibition races? Uh? Yeah? Racist.

623
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Um of late athletes have come out and been brave

624
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: enough to speak on mental health, which I think is important.

625
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's always been something that's kind of hush

626
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: hush or not man enough to really talk about. You've

627
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: struggled with depression throughout your life, Um, How did you

628
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: get through it? Do you still go through it? Um?

629
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: What's the process with that? Yeah? I think I had

630
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: a I was having a couple of days of depression

631
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: last week, actually on my birthday. No idea, why comes

632
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: and goes? Yeah? That was Yeah, that was the first

633
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: time in in a while. But uh, I thought I

634
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm twenty nine, like birthdays or just

635
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: another day to me. But that was on Saturday. And

636
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: then Sunday we raced that Roval, which is the worst

637
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: track on the schedule. Every driver will tell you, and

638
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: it's just what Charlotte, it's our home race. So we

639
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: got the big Coke six hundred, Uh, the big race

640
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: and then they used to be a smaller race, used

641
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: to be the Bank of America on the big track,

642
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: but now they made it a road course race and

643
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: terrible idea. But anyways, that's another story another day. And

644
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: historically never really run well there, and so it was

645
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: always one of those deals like you show up to

646
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: a game, it's like, man, I'm gonna play like today.

647
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: Just you just always feel it. Yeah, And I struggle

648
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: at road courses in general, but we've gotten better and better.

649
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Long story, short qualified decent start the race, really good.

650
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: In lap four I messed up and almost spent out

651
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: and wreck all right in last for the the race,

652
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: and then we make it through the Rex and the Carners.

653
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: We finished seventh, like damn good day. And I got

654
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: out of the car and I was like, yeah cool,

655
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: and I was I was riding home. I'd have a

656
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: motorcycle read in Harley's and I read my motorcycle home

657
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: and I was just like, what the hell is going on?

658
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm not pumped, I'm not excited, and I was like, ah, yeah,

659
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: just turned twenty nine. Thanks were great, you know, finished

660
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: seventh at your worst racetrack, Like so it just happens,

661
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: and um, you know, for me, it's woke up the

662
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: next day and they pumped, like just just like that. Yeah,

663
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: Like I don't do anything different. I just know like

664
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: the grass is always green on the other side, and

665
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: son's gonna wake up. Our son's gonna rise tomorrow. So

666
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: that's kind of my mentality going with it, and every

667
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: it is different and how they deal with it, and

668
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: for me, it's turning on that music to help get

669
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: it out and then things are good. Uh. In your

670
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: team made national headlines with you know, what someone thought

671
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: was a noose fount in your garage, FBI investigation, a

672
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: lot of yeah, no, yeah no. Can you break that

673
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: without going too deep into the situation. Can you break

674
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: that down for us? And what happened? Um Talladega? Um,

675
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: you know with everything that was going on, George Floyd

676
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: all that, you know, just got rid of the Confederate

677
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: flag and our sport and we're going to Talladega. You know,

678
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: heightened awareness is at all times, so it's like, if

679
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen, it's something's gonna happen there. And um,

680
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: at that time, it was COVID. So we got rid

681
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: of practice, we got rid of qualify, and we just

682
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: show up and race. So we're sitting in the bus,

683
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: Blannie and I. We're sitting the bus playing two K

684
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: or something, and we're like, let's go to dinner soon,

685
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: all right. So we're about to go get some uh

686
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: some pizza or something, and I get a call from

687
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: the president, Hey, what's up, President of mascart, Steve Phelps,

688
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: what's up? Hey, here's your bus. It's like, uh yeah, sure,

689
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: see in a minute. I'm like, oh ship, yeah, I'm

690
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: like so I go up, pull up, like the receipts

691
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: on my phone. I'm like, what about tweet? I'm like, Ship,

692
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: you know, I've gotten in trouble for Twitter a couple

693
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: of times here and there joined the club, and so

694
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know, I see him walking. I

695
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: opened up the door for him, Hey, you want to

696
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: bottle of water? Like, what's up? And it was one

697
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: of those looks I never forget. It's just dead pan,

698
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: tears in his eyes. I'm sorry, Ship, you know. And

699
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: he told me, you know, crewmember found what a noose?

700
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh, Ship, okay, like all right,

701
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: and obviously long story short investigated. Not a noose, not

702
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: a threat towards me. Looked just like a news tied

703
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: up just like this whatever it might be the size

704
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: of your pinking but still looks like that. Um you know.

705
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: Throughout that whole deal, it was just like damn, you know,

706
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: and I knew. I called my crew member who had

707
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: found it. I said, hey, ma, you sure, because I

708
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: was like, this is gonna look, this is gonna be bad.

709
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: And called him my crew chief called me. He's like, dude,

710
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: fucked up. And I was like, all right, what did

711
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: you learn from that if anything, Um that honestly, I

712
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: don't really know. I mean, you know you always have

713
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: to just you know, keep your head on a swivel

714
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: and just look out for self, right, Like that's the

715
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: important thing with life. And you know, I hate that

716
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: whole SCENEO went down and now now from from going

717
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: from all that and people think it's a play and

718
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, a plot for me to you know, always

719
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: losing his r eye Like I was good. I had

720
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: had a really good deal going. You know, the results

721
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: may not have shown that, but we were we were

722
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: solid and uh and so you gained i'd say majority

723
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: of your fan base, but you've also gained a whole

724
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: new fan base. Um, not from that, but seeing what

725
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: all stem from it. You people show their true colors, right,

726
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: even even close people like they were like, oh yeah

727
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: that's Bubba for you. M like whoa, all right yeah

728
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: and um and so you it's like all right, you know,

729
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: I keep my circles tight and it just got tighter

730
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: then and and that's okay with me. Um, But you know,

731
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: ship happens and you you you grow on and move

732
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: on from it, and you know it, you know, it

733
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: made me more aware of my surroundings in everyday life.

734
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: So I'm always you know, who's here for me and

735
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: who's not. You know, you go to the track now

736
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: and Kyle's Kyle Bush still gets the most booze, but

737
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: you know his is his is different. You know, my

738
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: ship is like more personal, and so it sucks. But

739
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: throughout all that, the people that really understand the story

740
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: and and and and know the facts, like you have

741
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: a whole new fan base and it's and it's been

742
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: very supportive, and I've been appreciative of it because they

743
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: weed out the bullshit just like I would. And uh,

744
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: they're there for you. So it's cool to have people

745
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: like that. Being the only black driver in NASCAR, um,

746
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I remember when Tiger Woods kind of broke that barrier

747
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: and kind of opened the door and got you know

748
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: a lot of minorities, particularly African to Ericans into golf.

749
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Do you do you think about that at the beginning

750
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: middle now? Does it not cross your mind? I know

751
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: you just want to be known as a racer because

752
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: that's what we are. But do you ever think about

753
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: kind of your historical significance in this spot you're in,

754
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: and and and the ability to encourage the next Bubble

755
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: Wallace to come along the lines I do when we

756
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: talk about it. Okay, Um, you know, like I said

757
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, we just go up, show up,

758
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: and race, and when go home, race and win again,

759
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: race and lose. We just kept doing that. When I

760
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: won my first race at Martinsville, it was like, yes,

761
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, great job, dude, you you did it. You know,

762
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: you won your first struck race. And then you get

763
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: out and they're like, Bubble, who was first afric American

764
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: to win? And it's like, oh ship, right, wow, Okay,

765
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even cross your mind now, No, it's it's there.

766
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: And so I in my tweet, Uh that's pinned since

767
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: seen is you know, you're not gonna stop hearing about

768
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: the black driver. There's only one one, and so accept it,

769
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: embrace it, and enjoy the journey because that's what I've done. Like, yeah,

770
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm tired of hearing about it. But media's got to

771
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: get their click bait and all this ship. You know,

772
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: they're not just gonna put Bubba Wallace one of race.

773
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: People are gonna be like, who the hell's at they

774
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: put black driver? Yeah, the viewership goes up. Some black friends,

775
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: my best friends blay four. Um, but you know it's

776
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But I don't It's not

777
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: like I, you know, run away from that. I accepted it. Yeah,

778
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: and and try to make it better. And I'll say

779
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: everywhere we go, now there's minorities that you know that

780
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: are fans. They're like, hey man, we're fans because you like,

781
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: we've never watched NASCAR, and it's it's super dope. Like, yeah,

782
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm one of them. Yeah. I was surprised today when

783
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: we went to the thing, there was like a lot

784
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: of black people. And it sounds maybe crazy to say,

785
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: but I was surprised. We saw like a a lot

786
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: of black people worked and I'm just like, m okay, yeah,

787
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's that was. That was one of

788
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: the things that my mom at Richmond, we had one

789
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Richmond and two thousand eleven and um, this was this

790
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: was more like a kind of more like JV football

791
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: or j V ball and we won Richmond and my

792
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: mom was like, hey, you look up in the stands.

793
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: What do you see? This is after the race? Like

794
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: now they're empty. It's like no, look and it was

795
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: just Hispanics, minorities, black cleaning the stands and there she

796
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: was like they probably have no idea that there's a

797
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: black kid down here dropping and it was like, wow,

798
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty interesting. And Richmond, Richmond is in the hood.

799
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: It is right next door to the hood, and it's

800
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: incredible to see now, like I said, eleven eleven years,

801
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: like how much that's changed. We're doing these deals called

802
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Bubble's Block Party. We just did one in in uh

803
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: in Birmingham, which was super dope. We had DJ Many

804
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: Fresh Out and Big Crip Fresh Fresh and uh the

805
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: crowd was awesome. Done in the black folks like it

806
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: was super dope and they were interested in they were

807
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: pumped to see me there, right, but we weren't at

808
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: the racetrack and and I wasn't performing. It was just

809
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: one of these deals, you know, and it's like, Okay, now,

810
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: this this is the real job. How do we get

811
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: this crap to carry over? What's the carry over? How

812
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: do we get this Let Manny Fresh come DJ that

813
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: motherfucker that might be. So that's the real process of like, Okay,

814
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: we got these people knowing about NASCAR and Bubba Wallace

815
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: and all of our partners here, but they're still not

816
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: at the track, which is i'd say the goal. Yeah. Right,

817
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: so we've still got a lot of work to do there.

818
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: And what that answer is it is who knows, you know,

819
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: what is the how do we do that? It's a

820
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: it's a journey, not a destination right right time? Yeah,

821
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean obviously all time, you know, it's on our minds.

822
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: And like you even said, like I didn't. Movie is

823
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: known about Nascar, but I didn't started paying attention until

824
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: I simon, this is my color. Like we're close. He's

825
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: a little he's he's staying oven a little longer. I mean,

826
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: you were kind of similar. So I just like, oh,

827
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: there's someone hey. True, no, but I think that's dough. Um.

828
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: You've always been someone to use your platform to kind

829
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: of speak on important issues, talk to us about your project,

830
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: lived to be different. Yeah, so we're all different. Right.

831
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: You guys can't drive a race car. I can't play ball.

832
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: We're different. I can attempt to, Yeah, you can shoot.

833
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm not even I can't get in the car. And

834
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I told a buddy of mine that I told a

835
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: buddy of mine it might be in this room. I said, hey, man,

836
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: you might be able to take pictures and shoot videos.

837
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: I can do that same ship too, but you can't

838
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: drive race So just remember that. Remember that when you

839
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: want to talk, Hey man, my picture better than yours. Yeah,

840
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: I can do your job, you can't. He a little

841
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: bit of reality. I just speak facts. But again, we're

842
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: all different. We're all different. And you know, is it

843
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 1: my purpose in life to be a race car driver?

844
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: You don't know? Is it your purpose to was it

845
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: your purpose to play ball? You don't know? But you

846
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: live it out every day to figure out what your

847
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: purpose is. And it's different from everybody else. And so

848
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: as I've always said, live to be different. Like you know,

849
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm different the way I look in the sport, and

850
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: so I'm not letting that stop me. So I encourage

851
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: other people to live on life, have fun with it.

852
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: Only you can tell yourself no. People gonna try. But

853
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: you gotta be strong enough mentally and physically to say no.

854
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: That mental part. How do you reflect on your career

855
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: with this so far? What's what anything you want to accomplish?

856
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Like on the first thing on your mind? Yeah, I

857
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: think you know. It's it's really big, uh to be successful.

858
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: For me, success reads everything, winning means everything everything, and

859
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: realizing that there's so much more to life than that.

860
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Like I've I've started to learn that, Like I I

861
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: made a big mistake and when you know, I wasn't

862
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: running well and I told my fiance like, hey, Rasin

863
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: is always gonna come first. That was a massive stakes

864
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: racing thing. Always gonna be there, right, you know, and

865
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: understand that life is super important and the people that

866
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: you're surrounded with is super important. I started to appreciate

867
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: that a lot more. And we're in a great spot,

868
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: better than we've ever been. Um. And so understanding that

869
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: part of it has been really really cool. Um. But

870
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: from the racing side of things and my career, there

871
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: is is you know, Bubba wins Talladega, it's a massive story.

872
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: Bubba wins Kansas, It's a massive story. I want to

873
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: get to the point where it's like, oh, Bubba, just

874
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: want another you know, but but did it again? Yeah,

875
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: and it's and it's just like Okay, that's it and

876
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: not be some like oh ship like I'd like to

877
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: text go from four hundred down to twenty. Hey man,

878
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: nice job, good job. That's it. Super appreciative all foreign

879
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: people that text me. But it's one of those deals

880
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: is like it's a surprise. Still, it feels like a surprise,

881
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get it to where it's like

882
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: a normal occurrence. So if you're going to do this

883
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: for someone in years to be able to have it,

884
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: just another one. It's another one? Is it? Who is

885
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: Bubba Willas outside of the homebody? I don't I don't

886
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: like PC. Yeah, PC, So I'm on that wars on stuff. Okay,

887
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: see like okay, let me tell you something. When somebody

888
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: say they're a PC, they mean they cheat. They got

889
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: aimed bats, somebody just moving the moss and shop you

890
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: can aim assists with the controllers. Yeah, but it's just

891
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: so so you know, it's easier with their mouths recoil.

892
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Jack just behind and try to snipe people. He's not

893
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: really out there. I'm gonna picking teams. It's a good leader.

894
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick you and the rest of the guys.

895
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna do a lot of killing. And I was

896
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: gonna call people out in snipe just getting carried. I'm sniping. Hey,

897
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: someone came and played Jack on Call of Duty Murray

898
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: on our show, they do a knife and kill Jack

899
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: with a knife and jack knife on the game. I'm

900
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: shooting everybody doing a knife in me. Yeah, so I'm

901
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: a big gamer. Um. There's a couple of us that

902
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: get on uh about every night, nine thirty, ten o'clock.

903
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: It's the what's up? It's time? All right, baby, I

904
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: got a text. You gotta go killing the chill. That's

905
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: what I was trying to me with bonds. Yeah, that's

906
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: how we're killing the chilling. I love that. Besides that,

907
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm golfing. Try to golf once twice a week. Put

908
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: your handicap a twelve. Okay, you're okay, Yeah that's weelve

909
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: and it's so frustrating. Shot eighty seven a day, eighties seven.

910
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: Now we didn't get to finish, so I can get

911
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: the score. But now I'm I am a hater of

912
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: myself when it comes to golf. Oh you don't want

913
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: to play around me because I used to get super

914
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: fucking mad. I'll enjoy the moment, but I'm just madam

915
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: competitive and I'm like, you know what to do, do

916
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: it and I can't do it. So but yeah, golf

917
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: and just relaxing at home like parties. I'll party all

918
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: day if it's at my house. Yeah, I'm not going out,

919
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: hate the city, hate traffic. Just I lift eleven minutes

920
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: from the airport. Get on playing, go home race, do

921
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: all that come back? You're driving enough. I want to

922
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: be home too quick. Hitters, coming down to the end

923
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: of the show. First thing across your mind. Let us

924
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: know top five NASCAR drivers of all time in your

925
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: opinion Richard Petty got, Dylan Hart, Jimmy Johnson all seven

926
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: times champions. Uh you know, I didn't really pay attention

927
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: to the older stuff. Um so people are gonna be like, oh,

928
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: you didn't say like Kelly Yarborough or you know, Davey

929
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: Allison's your list. Yeah, uh so I got those three

930
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: and then right now current time Kyle Bush, Kyle Larson,

931
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: stuck on the island. Three shows are movies in rotation Friday. Uh,

932
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm a horror movie fanatic. And Halloween came out today.

933
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: Uh it was thirty the thirtieth Halloween, thirty one. It's

934
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna be asked, but that's all right. I was watching

935
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: Halloween when I was like four or five. So yeah,

936
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of parents, my friends that we could,

937
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: we couldn't watch watch all of it. Uh So Friday, Halloween,

938
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: let's go more suspense um like law abiding sis and

939
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: one night in Vegas on the money line cardcause everything

940
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: is on the house. They got a lot of money

941
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: over there. Three people you'd bring with you past or present?

942
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm not in Vegas and you're not party or but

943
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: tonight you're gonna party because it's I'm money line swipe it. Um.

944
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Let's see who who would I bring present? That's tough,

945
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: better alive? One night, yeah, one night in Vegas. I'm

946
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: gonna have to go with I said Friday, So I'm

947
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to go with Tucker Smoke Okay, yeah Smoky

948
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: because I was too. And then who's another solid one?

949
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: I would have to probably invite Wayne out wheezy oh

950
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah uh. And then the third the third I

951
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: party with m jam right him Jam yeah yeah, I'm

952
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: just speaking and cigars, so that's you got some. I

953
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: already got some good tea if you like that, and

954
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't like that, and like that any pre race

955
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: routines you've got, Our schedules are so like compact on.

956
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: We try to time it out to where I'll have

957
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: like forty five minutes to an hour after all of

958
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: our meet and greets and stuff at the track. Uh

959
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: to go back to the bus eat Uh, shower if

960
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: you need to, but just get ready. But I'll put

961
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: music on. I put music on and go to the

962
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: back room of the bus and blast it. So did too. Yeah,

963
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: it's just done out. So it's it's funny. I always

964
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: tell the new people that I meet. It's like when

965
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: you'll see me at the track, you know, doing the

966
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: meet and greets, it's, hey, what's up? How are you?

967
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: You know, everything's great, like welcome out. But then when

968
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: you see me again, like no disrespect, but I'm you know,

969
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: because it's so different for us, Like two hours before game,

970
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: you guys are in locker room, you know, getting Fred,

971
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: We're signing autographs, get some babies, We're doing all that stuff.

972
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: And even before we throw a leg in the car,

973
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: we're still doing that chip. So it's always always in

974
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: the moment. You guys can see that. On Sunday. How

975
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: fast do you get in and out of the pits? Uh?

976
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: Average average? So the pit stops the pit stops alone own.

977
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: Uh if you can bust off an eight five, let's

978
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: getting eight seconds really eight like a change of blown

979
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: tire whatever. The blowing tire is different because you gotta

980
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: get the car up. But if it's a come in,

981
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: come in, a clean stop and everybody executes, it's eight

982
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: point five and nine seconds and the slowest. There's some

983
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: teams that, you know, maybe developmental teams that are excuse me,

984
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: doing fourteen fifteen seconds, but you got no shot every second,

985
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: and that's changing all four tires and what else? And

986
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: fuel four tires and fuel enough. Yeah, and so if

987
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: you ask for an adjustment that slows down your time

988
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: by a couple of few tenths, have it. No, So

989
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: you have to be spot on every time. So eight

990
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: eight five, I think is our fastest recorded stop. It's

991
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: not hours, but in the sport for this new car,

992
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: because it used to be it used to be uh

993
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: ten seconds, but we've gone from five lug nuts to

994
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: one lug nut, so you think about that time. It

995
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: decreased that time, so it took three second. It's tough

996
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: to deal. Here's the real question. Five dinner guests better alive?

997
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: Um U plus five? Okay, So there's two sitting in

998
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: the room right here, right let's right, my boy, my boy,

999
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a good time. I'm gonna make sure

1000
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: and I'm more secured. Um, let's go with uh, you know,

1001
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: let's go with Prince. Uh, Prince, let's go with him.

1002
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: Let's go with h. I think it'd be awesome to

1003
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: sit there and have a conversation with Obama. Oh, have

1004
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: a have a have a drink, have a cocktail? One more? Um, Kobe,

1005
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: m there you go. I'm bringing the wheat. If you

1006
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: could see one guess on all the smoke Michael Jordan,

1007
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: who would it be? Um? Before you answer the question,

1008
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: you have to help us get your answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1009
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can make a phone call get Yeah,

1010
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: what made you think of Mike? I didn't think of that. Yes, yeah, Michael,

1011
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: makes sense. Might come on through. Yeah, there you go. Well,

1012
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: Bubba man, we appreciate your time. Best this weekend. We're

1013
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: gonna be out there cheering for you. Um Man. Best

1014
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: luck the rest of the season. I know it's coming

1015
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: down to one end. Jack, you got something to give him?

1016
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: What we got? Let's go. You can sit while you

1017
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: playing CD. Yeah, all the smoke shirt. What I'm saying,

1018
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: are you chilling or killing? He said? I love it?

1019
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: Thanks once again, Bubba Wallas, big shout out, money Line,

1020
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: Blue Wire Studios, the Win Hotel. You can catch us

1021
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: on Showtime Basketball YouTube and the I Heart platform Black Effects.

1022
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: We'll see you all next week. Put Up n Street,

1023
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: everybody in