Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 2: And what it's like to be siblings. We are sibling.
Speaker 4: Railval No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 5: That's good, Ollie.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited about what's happening right now because like
Speaker 3: one of my best friends.
Speaker 5: In the world.
Speaker 2: Been trying to get these girls on for years and.
Speaker 6: Spoop, Spoop is she gets scaredoos live like for Live Tyler,
Speaker 6: the Live Tyler, who is like I've known since I
Speaker 6: was fift fourteen.
Speaker 3: But we'll get into this because she's here and watching us,
Speaker 3: and they're watching us.
Speaker 2: They're watching.
Speaker 3: And Mia Tyler, who, by the way, we didn't actually
Speaker 3: grow up with as much as we did Live. We
Speaker 3: just met as adults. And I think you're meeting her
Speaker 3: for the first time today.
Speaker 2: I think i've met you before party. Yeah, which one
Speaker 2: I've met right for sure?
Speaker 1: Your birthday?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, stop writers, But it was a leading Yeah, it
Speaker 7: was one of those yeah, twenty years ago.
Speaker 5: Because I can see his face, I.
Speaker 1: Know I have been told by multiple people for years
Speaker 1: that you and I should be friends really because we
Speaker 1: are similar in humor and sibling wise eight more, not
Speaker 1: in like a just as like a friendship thing, but
Speaker 1: like everybody's like, you need to meet him.
Speaker 5: Oh all right.
Speaker 1: So when I saw you at the birthday, I was like,
Speaker 1: and then it was so fleeting. So now here we are.
Speaker 5: You guys, you will welcome to our podcast. Thank you
Speaker 5: so much you're here. I can't believe it did come
Speaker 5: from it came from so we Well, first of all,
Speaker 5: we have known each other since we were six. Yes,
Speaker 5: because I met you were dating. She was swooping Alex's Alex.
Speaker 5: You don't have to talk about Alex.
Speaker 3: I came talking about, but I know all your spoopies.
Speaker 5: And I came. I was sixteen. I came to l A.
Speaker 5: I was doing a movie, staying with Susan and Peter,
Speaker 5: my god parents, and their daughter Katie Hoffman was friends somehow,
Speaker 5: So somehow we all went out one night, a whole
Speaker 5: group of us, and over weeks that somehow we ended
Speaker 5: up at your house. Yeah, at our parents' house. I
Speaker 5: really remember. I remember you. I'll never forget it. I
Speaker 5: tell you.
Speaker 3: I love telling this story because I'm meeting liv Tyler
Speaker 3: and for me, you know, a girl in high school.
Speaker 3: I was at maybe in ninth grade, and it was
Speaker 3: like v Live Tyler, you know, it was like beauty
Speaker 3: was ow, you're a little bit older.
Speaker 5: Older, You're a little bit older. You're a little bit older.
Speaker 5: I remember, Yeah, I am how old are you? I'm
Speaker 5: seventy seven, I'm eighty six. I am seventy six older.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm seventy the old.
Speaker 3: So so I live walks in and she's in this tiny,
Speaker 3: like adorable baby doll dress with I remember that with
Speaker 3: converse like converse shoes black and white, and and I'll
Speaker 3: never forget it because it was also after you had
Speaker 3: done Crazy the video. So for me, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what is she doing in our house?
Speaker 5: We were school we were all in high school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I was acting really cool and then
Speaker 3: and then and that was it.
Speaker 5: And then there's ever your bedroom. I remember you came
Speaker 5: into my bedroom. I forget because I got like, like
Speaker 5: you still do I could see you sitting there.
Speaker 3: And then I remember driving to breakfast. We went to
Speaker 3: Patrick's Roadhouse.
Speaker 5: Which is no longer over at your house. Did I
Speaker 5: sleep over? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But there's kinds of weird thing.
Speaker 5: Now at this point I had we were in. I
Speaker 5: forget what car we were in, but I remember, yes,
Speaker 5: we went in.
Speaker 3: Your song was my side took me but just two
Speaker 3: a little bit older. So this was like another another
Speaker 3: visit and I'll never forget. I had my SOB and
Speaker 3: Shpoop Live was like, you know, let's go get breakfast.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, yeah, let's go get breakfast. And
Speaker 3: and and I was like, we go to Patrick Shorthouse
Speaker 3: and we got in the car and Janey got a gun,
Speaker 3: came on and you blast it and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is this is so crazy.
Speaker 8: It's like Overboard coming on. Everyone sit down watching Overboard.
Speaker 5: Which.
Speaker 1: Such a great movie, but it's my favorite movie. It's
Speaker 1: my favorite movie. Can number one.
Speaker 8: We'll get back to your story and Seid, let me pitch.
Speaker 8: Can I pitch you overboard in today's world to see
Speaker 8: if this was flying? Okay, here's the overboard pitch. We
Speaker 8: have a really rich woman who's on the I who
Speaker 8: comes into this little harbor and this sort of carpenter guy.
Speaker 8: She's a total bitch, horrible thing. She falls overboard. Now
Speaker 8: she's brought in as amnesia. The carpenter who she's a
Speaker 8: dick to decides to kidnap her because if you think
Speaker 8: about what he did, he kidnapped mother, essentially.
Speaker 5: That is what he does. But it's hilarious recently to
Speaker 5: the scene where she's sitting and all the kids are
Speaker 5: around and they're kind of like and she's kind of
Speaker 5: trying to figure it out, and he's telling her the
Speaker 5: story happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like and he's like, you know, try
Speaker 3: try to figure out his name. Try, try and try,
Speaker 3: and she's like, you got to.
Speaker 2: Remember this one.
Speaker 6: Roy is now the dog's name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now we have a dog cry.
Speaker 2: Every time window.
Speaker 3: Oh, forget it, but the necklace.
Speaker 2: Mom's got the necklace. I'm still I.
Speaker 5: Cry when it's over.
Speaker 3: And he's like, what could I give you that you
Speaker 3: don't girl?
Speaker 5: Jenne's got a guy.
Speaker 3: We are driving down and I remember where we were,
Speaker 3: right at Lemisa and you know, near Chautauqua, and we
Speaker 3: were crossing and.
Speaker 5: I remember it's one of those core memories.
Speaker 3: I will never forget your exuberance, like your life force
Speaker 3: of like you know, I just will never forget it.
Speaker 5: Yoh, yeah, you were like, who was the top down?
Speaker 5: The top was down?
Speaker 3: But it was also that thing like we were so
Speaker 3: young and we were so ready to go.
Speaker 5: We were just like ready, you know, and you really
Speaker 5: wanted to be an actress at that time. And I remember,
Speaker 5: and your mom wouldn't let you. She wouldn't. She was like,
Speaker 5: you're finishing high school and you had your SOB and
Speaker 5: you could drive. And I was in your LA and
Speaker 5: I was in New York. So yeah, it's so different.
Speaker 5: And I'd already started working and I would have loved
Speaker 5: to have been in your shoes.
Speaker 1: I am kind of at home.
Speaker 8: How old were you when we were all hanging out,
Speaker 8: even without Kate? When you were dating sixteen? That was sixteen.
Speaker 5: Now you were older, you were seventeen, and.
Speaker 2: Was I still were still in high school?
Speaker 5: Were totally still in high school? Because when the Aerosmith
Speaker 5: video came out, I was so in high school that
Speaker 5: I would get.
Speaker 1: I was fifteen when that came out, so and you're
Speaker 1: eighteen months older. So yeah, because it used to come
Speaker 1: done in the morning, idiot, No, you're nineteen for that,
Speaker 1: I'd done, I believe a couple like, yeah, yes.
Speaker 5: Because I turned eighteen when I did, right, So I
Speaker 5: was sixteen or seventeen? Yeah, I turned eighteen that song,
Speaker 5: But when the video used to come on, I used
Speaker 5: to get up. My alarm would go off. Like any
Speaker 5: other high school kid. I would start getting ready and
Speaker 5: put MTV on and it was the morning countdown, and
Speaker 5: when my song came on, I would cringe and run
Speaker 5: and get in the shower, and I knew that I
Speaker 5: had like that amount of time whatever five or six
Speaker 5: minutes to and then come back out to see the
Speaker 5: video that I wanted to see that I wasn't in.
Speaker 5: But it was on the countdown for that whole year.
Speaker 5: I feel like, oh yeah, it was. It was huge.
Speaker 2: Was that your first gig?
Speaker 5: No, My friend James Mangold discovered me.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 5: I was in his first movie called Heavy. The first
Speaker 5: movie I ever did was called Silent Fall. I killed
Speaker 5: my Silent was the Killer with Bruce Bruce Bears for
Speaker 5: driving Miss Daisy. Right then I was like thirteen fifteen.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's all a blur, but Spoops that
Speaker 5: comes from that time we were in high school and
Speaker 5: for some reason, I don't know why you used to
Speaker 5: call me spoops poops. It came from Briston. Well it
Speaker 5: was well that was later chunk, but it was a
Speaker 5: lot of names.
Speaker 3: No, we used to do this thing where we would
Speaker 3: basically like her dad does this thing. He's always like
Speaker 3: like a cow wow like and.
Speaker 5: And yeah, he's like yow. And then we would sometime.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened, but we would be singing
Speaker 3: a song would be like big goes well, spooby amount
Speaker 3: of booby poop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just like yes, start singing yes and.
Speaker 3: Just do the song like that, and then she just
Speaker 3: became poop me like it was just spoop. It was
Speaker 3: just all it was poop, and then it was spoop.
Speaker 3: But then we'll call each other and be like poopy.
Speaker 3: But then I call you shoops and you call me poopy.
Speaker 3: It's not actually poop related, but you don't talk about.
Speaker 5: But you too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like poop. We called her a poop.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's an endearment and poop poop, but.
Speaker 5: You've always pinched poopy poop and always sing songs boo poop.
Speaker 5: Even even even Ronnie the other day was like we
Speaker 5: just leave each other on her voice so many times.
Speaker 3: And then and then Ronnie the other day, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: Live is coming, and.
Speaker 1: She's like.
Speaker 5: And I was like spoopy and She's like, oh, like
Speaker 5: the kids don't even know name. But we then we
Speaker 5: then after that, of course.
Speaker 3: You went to college and we thrived in our professional life.
Speaker 5: Where did you go to college?
Speaker 2: Left?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you went to college. We just from college.
Speaker 2: We just went a couple of years.
Speaker 3: We went into them. Then we were always together. So
Speaker 3: like then like we went.
Speaker 2: I remember some reason, I feel like I knew it
Speaker 2: lived before you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you did.
Speaker 2: If it was for me, then you guys.
Speaker 5: Would we wouldn't have had that.
Speaker 3: So then I go to New York and we're obviously
Speaker 3: both working and we're we went to a couple of
Speaker 3: shows together. We then had a mutual bestie and Stella McCartney,
Speaker 3: and we were all so young and hanging out. But
Speaker 3: then Spoop and I had babies young, so then you're.
Speaker 5: First you had Rider when you were twenty three.
Speaker 3: I had Rider, and then you had Myla and they
Speaker 3: were like six months apart or eight months apart or something,
Speaker 3: and so us being the younger mommies, we were so
Speaker 3: we just I know, we'd hang out and she was
Speaker 3: married to Chunks at the time. I called him Chunks,
Speaker 3: which is it. He wasn't Chunky he wasn't chunky. It
Speaker 3: wasn't like it was like it was like he was
Speaker 3: so cute. It was like it was like spoopy Chunky.
Speaker 5: Like what do you call Chris nicknames? It was just Chris.
Speaker 5: But then we went on tour together.
Speaker 3: So then space and Oasis and the Brotherly Crows went
Speaker 3: on the brother Lift.
Speaker 5: So we we had like.
Speaker 2: A very fun romance.
Speaker 5: Reversal because you had your own bus. So I was
Speaker 5: in space Hog was the opening act? Then close yeahs shared,
Speaker 5: you know, but so I was in the bus with
Speaker 5: the whole band, with all of space Hog and you
Speaker 5: and Chris had your own bus, and Shpoopy was just
Speaker 5: living the life like so beautiful. I was like.
Speaker 8: Reality and then it was so stop. It just carried over.
Speaker 8: But you know what, you know what the sucky thing
Speaker 8: is is you're coming to the end of your friendship
Speaker 8: and me and I were just starting off right. So
Speaker 8: in twenty years we're going to look back into another podcast.
Speaker 2: Remember that. Do you remember when we got movie? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 2: Crooky so goooky cooky cookie cookie cookie cookie. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So here we are, now here we are we are.
Speaker 5: Let's get into wellos Ven the sibling Revelie listen. Let's revelry.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I was saying this yesterday.
Speaker 3: Hello, we could re record it. Well, let's re record it.
Speaker 3: Sibling and I always have a desire to re record songs.
Speaker 3: We we like alone Heart.
Speaker 5: I wanted to be Anna Nancy Wilson I felis do
Speaker 5: a movie. But I would have to transform myself a lot.
Speaker 5: You would, but yeah, I mean but we that would
Speaker 5: be and then we'd be competing for the best singing part.
Speaker 5: But you'd be such a good Nancy. And yeah, but
Speaker 5: I can do those high kicks the guitar.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a movie here.
Speaker 5: We've been talking about it for like ten years.
Speaker 3: We do yeah, and then I can sing. I can
Speaker 3: sing that. We can switch voices for them for just
Speaker 3: the recording. I can do the ann his and you
Speaker 3: can do videos.
Speaker 5: We're so good.
Speaker 8: And I'm just one worried about the audience. That's all
Speaker 8: the people listening who are listening to this podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 5: Worried. Okay, let's get into childhood.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's first start with are you full.
Speaker 5: Sister siblings half half?
Speaker 1: But we don't know all the siblings. My little brother
Speaker 1: and sister are full and then there's me and then
Speaker 1: her and then but we don't.
Speaker 5: Say half right, like what is because like what does
Speaker 5: that mean? What do we say?
Speaker 1: I know? I just said brother.
Speaker 5: I call your sister brother.
Speaker 2: To blood. You have two other blood to different.
Speaker 1: So there's three moms one.
Speaker 2: Dad got it right, Okay, So.
Speaker 5: First live was first.
Speaker 1: Live was first, But we didn't know I was the best, start, right,
Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: We didn't know about me. Who didn't We'll get we'll
Speaker 5: get we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: And then so my parents were married, so I was
Speaker 1: the I was the first, but no I'm not. And
Speaker 1: then he remarried years later and had Taj and Chelsea
Speaker 1: got it right, Okay, So so I know where you're going,
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited. Tell the story is my favorite.
Speaker 3: Story, amazing almost beautiful but traumatic like story because it's bizarre,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: But live.
Speaker 3: You were raised by your mom, baby Buell, your mom
Speaker 3: baby Buell and Todd, right, and Todd didn't know who
Speaker 3: your dad was until you were much older.
Speaker 5: I think like eight. We were sort of seven, eight,
Speaker 5: nine ish eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So okay, so walk us through this a little bit.
Speaker 5: Okay, So what the finest Well, so The story goes
Speaker 5: that Todd and my mom were dating for Todd Tod,
Speaker 5: excuse me, incredible musician, seventies on and off, I don't know, traveling,
Speaker 5: all sorts of things going on. Somehow Liz Derreinger, who
Speaker 5: was married to Rick Derringer hang On, Sloopy, sleepy, come on,
Speaker 5: hang on, spoop went to high school with my dad
Speaker 5: with Stephen and introduced my mom and Steven at Access
Speaker 5: Kansas City one night or something, and they made me.
Speaker 1: And one night I think he invited her on tour.
Speaker 5: To Europe after she was But yes, the first time
Speaker 5: they ever made the love was in New York at
Speaker 5: Liz And is that where you were conceived? I think so, yes,
Speaker 5: And I think I know the house, which is interesting. Interesting,
Speaker 5: that's that's that's a little side.
Speaker 2: Piecing, amazing.
Speaker 5: But basically they had a love affair. There's so many interpretations.
Speaker 5: There's Todd's version, there's Steven's version, there's my mom's version,
Speaker 5: and then my whole life. I've been trying to put
Speaker 5: all the pieces together, and it kind of occurred to
Speaker 5: me in my thirties that it really didn't matter that everybody.
Speaker 5: It's like everything in life, we all have her own version,
Speaker 5: and they were all beautiful, and I've just kind of
Speaker 5: like fallen into the puzzle of it all and working
Speaker 5: on myself. My interpretation is that they were together, they
Speaker 5: didn't really know each other very well. Well, I appeared
Speaker 5: in the belly and I think my dad was pretty wild,
Speaker 5: and he was extremely wild, definitely, yeah, doing he was amazing,
Speaker 5: has a tremendous amount of stamina. He was like the
Speaker 5: most teasy, magical unicorns and did a lot of drugs.
Speaker 5: And I think, well.
Speaker 1: This is also the story of why he has scarves
Speaker 1: on his microphone, is because he liked to hide his
Speaker 1: pills and whatnots so he could do them live on stage.
Speaker 1: So that is, yes, he would have little pockets sewn
Speaker 1: so he could be on stage and just take whatever
Speaker 1: it was that he was ingesting. Unbelievable, So he was
Speaker 1: pretty wild mart at that time doing things that no
Speaker 1: mom to be as wild as your mom was too,
Speaker 1: Like no mom wants that's interesting.
Speaker 3: She was.
Speaker 5: She was twenty three and pregnant and she'd left Todd
Speaker 5: or but I think they were both probably having affairs.
Speaker 5: I don't actually know. She I think got a little
Speaker 5: bit scared when she realized how much drugs my dad
Speaker 5: was doing. And I think, as the story goes, she
Speaker 5: called Todd and said she was pregnant, and he asked
Speaker 5: her to come home to where they lived in Woodstock
Speaker 5: in upstate New York. And basically, he very courageously and
Speaker 5: lovingly said, this child needs a father, and I will
Speaker 5: be the father. Yeah, very cute. So I was born living.
Speaker 5: I don't This is where it all gets a little
Speaker 5: bit confusing, because I think there was sort of an
Speaker 5: agreement that maybe I would never know, or maybe I
Speaker 5: would have to be eighteen, and then that was his
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone. And I was born with blue
Speaker 5: eyes and my dad, Stephen, has very brown eyes, and
Speaker 5: I have very blue eyes, and Todd had blue eyes.
Speaker 5: So I think maybe there was always a bit of
Speaker 5: a like, who is I didn't know?
Speaker 3: That's so funny, I mean it, And even like your
Speaker 3: baby pictures, I would think that there would have to
Speaker 3: be some Most of it is so interesting.
Speaker 5: I would love to hear that from your mom.
Speaker 8: You know, how far apart are you got?
Speaker 2: Eighteen months?
Speaker 5: Eighteen months during her mother is major, by the way,
Speaker 5: this whole situation.
Speaker 1: With us anymore, but she yeah, so I think after
Speaker 1: that he had met So my mom was married to
Speaker 1: David Johansson who just passed away Buster Poindexter. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was The story I was told was that he
Speaker 1: was a heroin dealer as well. Yeah, and so he's
Speaker 1: selling Heroine to Joe Perry and his then wife Alyssa,
Speaker 1: who my mom became best friends with because they would
Speaker 1: all party together and David was doing lots of junk
Speaker 1: and just not treating her so well. And then one
Speaker 1: day my mom was up in the management office David
Speaker 1: Krebs Airsmith's manager's office, and my dad had on this
Speaker 1: coat which I just found and just gave to him.
Speaker 1: It's like a you know, Joseph and the technicolored raincoat
Speaker 1: or whatever that is, but it's like patchwork long, and
Speaker 1: it was just like he had long, girly hair and
Speaker 1: she was like what is that? And he saw her
Speaker 1: and she was blonde. She was like the Warhol chick
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 5: She looked like she was in Jean Jeannie the David.
Speaker 1: Major, but she had red lips and leach blonde hair,
Speaker 1: and he was just like, what is that? And he
Speaker 1: was like she always said, he was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: what is that, Like that was the name of this episode,
Speaker 1: and that was the moment that she was no longer
Speaker 1: with David. I guess mentally right. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: I have her journal. Oh wow, after she died, I
Speaker 1: got all her stuff and it's like it's it's CF
Speaker 1: because she went by sir into Fox and it was
Speaker 1: like CF with hearts plus DJ David Johansson. And then
Speaker 1: you see like all these like you see a couple
Speaker 1: of blank pages and then you see something's changed and
Speaker 1: there's like all these flight things and it's the flight
Speaker 1: out a JFK where she was supposed to go home
Speaker 1: to David Johansson in New York, but instead she flew
Speaker 1: to Texas jam to be with my dad and never
Speaker 1: came home. And then the journal after that is all.
Speaker 5: CF plus ST. It's such a like.
Speaker 1: Crazy history thing to have.
Speaker 5: And they were married, they got married, So they got married,
Speaker 5: lived in New Hampshire in September and I.
Speaker 1: Was born in December.
Speaker 5: And how long were they together?
Speaker 1: Eighty ten years, ten years, ten years married.
Speaker 3: So your all of your childhoods are probably so different
Speaker 3: because you're also getting get probably although you might have
Speaker 3: a similar relationship to your dad. It probably was just
Speaker 3: just completely different.
Speaker 5: Well, we didn't have eight each other. Very interesting.
Speaker 1: We didn't meet until like around like eight and ten,
Speaker 1: but we grew up the same way without knowing each other.
Speaker 1: So I grew up in New Hampshire.
Speaker 5: And I grew up she grew up in Maine.
Speaker 1: And the same year we both were moved to New
Speaker 1: York City by our moms and we met, well, we
Speaker 1: met at a convert and we lived Arison.
Speaker 2: Show How old were You You met?
Speaker 5: And I think she was.
Speaker 1: Eight and I was nine, and I am kids backstage,
Speaker 1: and so with her and I just played the whole time.
Speaker 2: And I remember not knowing you were sisters.
Speaker 1: Hold on, no, I'm about to blow your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember, because there was no kids backstage. So her
Speaker 1: and I just played hard that night. And we were
Speaker 1: at this VIP area, like outside of the green rooms,
Speaker 1: and we were just like, you know, doing our eight
Speaker 1: and nine year old thing, and this fan lady came
Speaker 1: up and she was.
Speaker 5: Like, oh my god, you girls are so cute.
Speaker 1: Are you guys sisters? And we were like, you said yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like yeah, and we pretended we were sisters.
Speaker 5: But what she didn't know was that my mom had
Speaker 5: told me I'm going to start crying. Oh. So that
Speaker 5: night we lived in Maine, so my mom couldn't really
Speaker 5: handle taking care of me alone. So I went to
Speaker 5: live with my grandmother and my aunt and my uncle
Speaker 5: and cousins in Maine. So I was kind of my
Speaker 5: mom was in and out. Oh God, this gets so complicated.
Speaker 5: Before before that show, she does I know you. So
Speaker 5: there's pieces in between. But Steven went to reab came
Speaker 5: out part of his twelve Steps. He and Teresa went together.
Speaker 5: He called my mom that they started speaking again and
Speaker 5: arranged to meet in Boston at one of Todd's shows,
Speaker 5: which was probably not I think it was maybe my
Speaker 5: mom's way of thinking, Oh, Stephen just showed up and
Speaker 5: it was so fun. But it was very painful for
Speaker 5: Todd that part, I think, because I met Stephen that
Speaker 5: night and then so this was throughout the course of
Speaker 5: that year, he was around more. I had no idea
Speaker 5: who he was other than I just thought he was fabulous.
Speaker 5: And so that particular night that she's talking about, Guns n'
Speaker 5: Roses were opening for Aerosmith. It was the beginning of
Speaker 5: their Welcome to the Jungle. Like incredible moment, and we
Speaker 5: drove the gig I remember this, which is sort of
Speaker 5: at a place called Great Woods, which I don't know
Speaker 5: if that.
Speaker 3: Was me emotional.
Speaker 5: There's so many levels to this. So emotional right now,
Speaker 5: so we oh, babes, don't make me come over there
Speaker 5: and hug you.
Speaker 2: I need to get emotional.
Speaker 5: I just know this story.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about anyway, keep going.
Speaker 5: So we my mom was like, we're going to this show,
Speaker 5: and we drove from Portland, Maine, where we lived, to
Speaker 5: Great Woods, which is in New England somewhere, and it
Speaker 5: was an outdoor sort of those little outdoor amphitheater venues,
Speaker 5: and we were a little bit late, so normally we
Speaker 5: would have just gone backstage or whatever with friends and
Speaker 5: for some so we got tickets and we went to
Speaker 5: the audience and we were sitting standing in the you
Speaker 5: know somewhere, and Guns and Roses was playing and I
Speaker 5: was so e seted because I just like loved Guns
Speaker 5: and Roses. And on the side of the stage was
Speaker 5: this one because standing there.
Speaker 1: Actual used to dedicate Sweet Child of Mind to me
Speaker 1: like every tour, and he'd like bring me out on
Speaker 1: stage and be like.
Speaker 5: This is again to you, and I'd like. I just
Speaker 5: remember standing there watching them play, looking and seeing this
Speaker 5: girl who looked exactly like me, Like we literally had
Speaker 5: the same outfit on Oh my god. We had both
Speaker 5: had perms like spiral perms, pink fro races. We were
Speaker 5: both wearing a Aerosmith concert T shirt with black leggings
Speaker 5: and Reebok high tip go sneakers. I looked and I
Speaker 5: was like, wait, that's me. It was really weird. I
Speaker 5: was literally like looking in the mirror seeing you're double.
Speaker 5: I looked at my mom and I was like mom,
Speaker 5: and she just started crying. My mom just like Bald
Speaker 5: And I was like, is Stephen my dad? And she
Speaker 5: just like Bursted. She was just like good. And then
Speaker 5: she took me to a bench and we sat on
Speaker 5: a bench at this like outdoor amphitheater, and she told
Speaker 5: me the whole story in the most sincere, beautiful way,
Speaker 5: like within, the most loving, like loving version about Todd,
Speaker 5: loving version, about Steven, loving version, about the family that
Speaker 5: had supported us through it all, and I just was
Speaker 5: there with it. And then we went backstage after the show,
Speaker 5: and then there was me and we met for the
Speaker 5: first time, and I remember someone asking if we were
Speaker 5: sisters and I didn't, but we but we didn't know.
Speaker 1: But then that night, so I went home that night,
Speaker 1: so I took a car and I'm like, they just
Speaker 1: sent a car to bring me and take me back.
Speaker 1: So I remember getting home and it was really late,
Speaker 1: and I remember coming back and I was like, I
Speaker 1: met this girl and she was so great blah blah,
Speaker 1: and her mom beb me and she was like, what
Speaker 1: was her name? And she was like and I was like,
Speaker 1: her name, her name was liv and she was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not. Her name's Amy. And I was like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about. She goes, and that's your sisters
Speaker 1: and others. She goes, she goes, she was her mom's
Speaker 1: name was Bebie and then her name's Amy and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, it was Live and she's like, that's
Speaker 1: your sister. And that's how I found out And just
Speaker 1: in this moment, and then I just had to like
Speaker 1: go back into my room and put nick at night
Speaker 1: on and just go back to sleep. But then like
Speaker 1: two years later, I still have. You know, it's funny,
Speaker 1: I don't know the timeline, but I still have. You
Speaker 1: started sending me postcards and like, and I just found
Speaker 1: one recently and it was just.
Speaker 5: Like, you know, we're like eleven years old and you're
Speaker 5: just like And then we met up in New York,
Speaker 5: New York, Liz Darreinger's house, who had entered the one
Speaker 5: that from Oh my gosh, and I will never forget.
Speaker 5: We were sitting playing and my mom and Liz and
Speaker 5: her mother, Serrenda were sitting and they were you know,
Speaker 5: like talking, and then they looked at us and wait, like, okay,
Speaker 5: it's okay, you can talk about it now.
Speaker 1: No, that is not what happened, I remember.
Speaker 5: And then we looked and then we went there. We
Speaker 5: have this all the time with siblings, and there's always
Speaker 5: different person because she was older. All the time, she
Speaker 5: was older.
Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, I was like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: so cool. But I already known. I knew that she
Speaker 1: was my sister, but I didn't think she knew. And
Speaker 1: and we both knew but didn't know the other knew.
Speaker 1: But my mom started letting me go out with you
Speaker 1: and Beebie and we would walk around. And I remember
Speaker 1: this because your mom would always be like, if you
Speaker 1: want to have a tight butt, you gotta squeeze your
Speaker 1: butt as you walk and like thirteen squeeze around New
Speaker 1: York City, and then we went back to your apartment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like on eighteenth Street or something, I don't
Speaker 1: remember where it was, and my mom had toxture that
Speaker 1: dare My mom had to come pick me up. And
Speaker 1: I just remember like the whole day. I was like
Speaker 1: I remember even just being on like fourteenth Street walking
Speaker 1: and wanting to blurt it out, and I had to
Speaker 1: really like bite my tongue. And so we went back
Speaker 1: to your house and we were I was in your
Speaker 1: room by myself. My mom had showed up, and you
Speaker 1: were in the living room with them, and that's when
Speaker 1: they said, okay, you guys can talk about it, and
Speaker 1: you came flying into the You came flying into the
Speaker 1: room and you were like you know, and I was
Speaker 1: like you know, and and then we just sat there
Speaker 1: and hugged. And then we've been sisters ever since.
Speaker 5: I was just getting anyone.
Speaker 1: Always chokes me up the like you know, and like
Speaker 1: it was just we just saw I think we sat
Speaker 1: there and cried and like, and then we had so
Speaker 1: much stuff in common.
Speaker 5: Though, hugging each other.
Speaker 1: And lipstick. You can't tell the difference. I'll try and
Speaker 1: find it.
Speaker 8: But when did you get introduced to your father as
Speaker 8: your father? I mean the recognition happened.
Speaker 5: There your sort of similarly like oh that what that
Speaker 5: I was allowed to talk about.
Speaker 8: It your stage and you're like, is that my dad?
Speaker 8: And she's like, basically, yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have talked about it with him. Did he know?
Speaker 5: He know that you were? He did know? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 5: I think that. I think that even after I was born,
Speaker 5: they saw each other, which probably gets into tricky territory
Speaker 5: because you would have well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: A little mom little.
Speaker 9: And then.
Speaker 5: Todd and my mom weren't together. I think they tried
Speaker 5: to be together for about two weeks and that didn't
Speaker 5: go well.
Speaker 2: Did you think Todd was your father? Yes?
Speaker 1: I was raised, Yeah, because for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I met you.
Speaker 5: And was that so hard for him? I think so hard.
Speaker 5: I think it's probably still very hard and painful. And
Speaker 5: I don't speak to him, and I love him and
Speaker 5: I have brothers from him, and I had a whole
Speaker 5: family with them, but there was so much I was
Speaker 5: a kid, so it was really hard because he was
Speaker 5: mad at my mom and then suddenly Stephen was there
Speaker 5: and we did a praternity test and it was positive,
Speaker 5: and so we moved to New York. I think I
Speaker 5: was twelve, eleven or twelve, Like I remember getting my
Speaker 5: jurneyest summer and like moving.
Speaker 1: I remember the test. You were a little bit older
Speaker 1: because I was like, why are they doing that? Like
Speaker 1: it's obvious we all know.
Speaker 5: Oh, but then that wasn't until after that that we
Speaker 5: were allowed to discuss it. So I knew that. I
Speaker 5: think I knew, but it wasn't until after I remember
Speaker 5: being in New York, very close to where all my
Speaker 5: children were born, having the blood test and it being positive,
Speaker 5: and then seeing Steven and my mom. I was all
Speaker 5: seeing each other together during that time.
Speaker 3: Like, now are those memories like obviously, you know you
Speaker 3: have different perceptions of little those little sort of moments,
Speaker 3: but like, does it feel like that was the beginning
Speaker 3: of your childhood almost or do you still have memories
Speaker 3: of being younger and just with your mom and Todd They.
Speaker 5: Weren't together my mom and Todd. Todd, Yeah, they didn't
Speaker 5: make it together. Oh okay, he took he took care
Speaker 5: of me as like he was dad who he was
Speaker 5: always on tour too and traveling. He had another partner
Speaker 5: and two boys, so I would go and visit them
Speaker 5: and go on trips with them.
Speaker 3: I lived in Maine with my my uncle, my mom,
Speaker 3: and sometimes with my grandma.
Speaker 5: I was kind of raised by a little mix of
Speaker 5: bush poopy. What was your feeling like. Did you feel
Speaker 5: like you were betrayed that time or did you feel
Speaker 5: just an excitement that you actually felt like now you
Speaker 5: knew what your life really was like? What was the
Speaker 5: honest I felt it was quite like sort of mature.
Speaker 5: It was very weird. I felt so much love and
Speaker 5: so much I think because I had already lived with
Speaker 5: Annie and Teddy and my my family in Maine. I'd
Speaker 5: already lived with my grandmother, I'd already lived with my mom.
Speaker 5: I was kind of used to I was, I'm such
Speaker 5: a cancer crab. I'm very adaptable. I was able to
Speaker 5: like soak up the love that I could. And everybody
Speaker 5: was so different. So I remember to say.
Speaker 1: The Tyler, well, you know, our real last name's Tolrico.
Speaker 5: So the tolergo, we're Collabrian.
Speaker 1: We're very like my dad's I was very Italian, very eclectic,
Speaker 1: very like Gypsy, like gnome, you know, like all the
Speaker 1: trees have faces in them at our house, but like
Speaker 1: there was just like this weird, like not weird, but
Speaker 1: like eclectic gypsy vibe and that's why like we always
Speaker 1: like gypsy, you know. But like, so, did you did
Speaker 1: you feel like once you like realized all of us
Speaker 1: were your family, that you felt like, oh right, I
Speaker 1: belong here, like because you're very much even though that's
Speaker 1: not your last name, but like gipsy teller very much.
Speaker 5: I'm going to start checking into anybody. The queen of
Speaker 5: it was like layers. The first the first wave was shock.
Speaker 5: After that concert, we went home and my mom had
Speaker 5: a shaved in front of the window, and I remember
Speaker 5: sitting there for what felt like three days but it
Speaker 5: was probably three hours, and just basically coming to this
Speaker 5: conclusion at the end of like whoa, I have two
Speaker 5: dads and all this love and like maybe there'll be
Speaker 5: two Christmases. I just was really excited about it because
Speaker 5: they're all so different and so lovely.
Speaker 8: Was there a point where as you get older, we're like, Okay,
Speaker 8: now I think I need therapy so much. I'm saying,
Speaker 8: there is that moment where it's like, oh and then
Speaker 8: you get older, you mature, and things start to happen,
Speaker 8: your life starts to formulate, and then you're like, wait,
Speaker 8: I need to deal with this shit.
Speaker 5: I think I've always been dealing with it. But for me,
Speaker 5: I'm like, what's also just part of our job as actors? Right,
Speaker 5: Like I started acting at thirteen or fourteen. It's like
Speaker 5: the first thing you're doing is looking at the text
Speaker 5: and like, well, what do you really mean by that?
Speaker 5: And what's going on underneath that? And having to dig
Speaker 5: into those places of your childhood and other experiences that
Speaker 5: human behaviors is the core of what do we do?
Speaker 5: How did you feel that that? I always think more
Speaker 5: about what that must have felt like for you, because
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 1: Like, well, I had always wanted I grew up an
Speaker 1: only child at first because my little sister wasn't born
Speaker 1: until I was nine, Chelsea, I had wanted siblings. I
Speaker 1: just I wanted siblings. I would stare and like I
Speaker 1: just squeeze my body as hard as I could, thinking
Speaker 1: that that was like reaching whatever would bring me siblings,
Speaker 1: and I would just like and pray for that. And
Speaker 1: then and there.
Speaker 2: Sister.
Speaker 1: I had both a little sister and an older sister,
Speaker 1: and it was it.
Speaker 5: Was Chelsea so fabulous too. I call her, I call
Speaker 5: her and Ta's Cheech and Chong because they were so
Speaker 5: but she's a mom with kids now and so but
Speaker 5: I still call her Cheech but she is so fabulous.
Speaker 1: So I was just excited to have siblings, like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just all of a sudden the middle child.
Speaker 8: And it was great once you guys met, though, you know,
Speaker 8: how did that relationship sort of continue?
Speaker 2: You were both in were you both in New York?
Speaker 1: I moved here for sixth grade and you were in
Speaker 1: seventh or eighth grade.
Speaker 5: We lived such different lives. School to the Upper east Side.
Speaker 5: Surrender was fabulous. My mom was like Lower east Side queen.
Speaker 5: But she had this big.
Speaker 1: Dream of being She wanted to be this, you know,
Speaker 1: wrapped in furs walking around the very sophisticated. So she
Speaker 1: dragged us up to eighty second in Madison, and she.
Speaker 5: Was really mad at our. Surrenda was very mad at she.
Speaker 5: Steven was very yes, because he had kind of left
Speaker 5: her in New Hampshire. He had taken her from her
Speaker 5: life in New York and then had a baby and
Speaker 5: then kind of like left her. Sorry, dadhre alone with
Speaker 5: me without family and for money or anywhereas like I
Speaker 5: had grandmother and uncle and a lot of supports me.
Speaker 5: You were alone a lot with your mom. Oh god,
Speaker 5: no money. Yeah, because he was a.
Speaker 1: Heroin aount of money time that I think everybody always
Speaker 1: thinks that too, Like we grew up so rich and
Speaker 1: I was like we I mean, I was a toys
Speaker 1: for Tot's kid for most of my childhood, getting like
Speaker 1: the local motorcycle crew would come and bring me like
Speaker 1: used toys for Christmas.
Speaker 2: Asmith so many.
Speaker 5: Because there was like the seventies time, then there was
Speaker 5: like skid row time they lost everything, and then I
Speaker 5: think it was the nineties, the nineties when it was
Speaker 5: like sort of the videos that I was Living on
Speaker 5: the Edge. I was like mart with your yeah right,
Speaker 5: which is so cute.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 5: They did he wrote pink I love that I was on.
Speaker 1: I sang on pink you did yeah.
Speaker 3: Uncle, I think Uncle Mark's a writer on that one
Speaker 3: did going on Edge.
Speaker 5: Yes, By the way, listen to Living on the Edge.
Speaker 5: Drive home and listen. Listen to the words It's so
Speaker 5: right now, it's so you're like, wait, this needs to
Speaker 5: come out. The world.
Speaker 1: They were up in the hills. They were recording up
Speaker 1: in the hills and the LA riots started, So they
Speaker 1: were watching the LA riots and that's where those lyrics
Speaker 1: came from.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's called living on the edge because
Speaker 1: they were on the edge of watching.
Speaker 8: But how does your relationship progress two different moms? You know,
Speaker 8: you guys were you found your you found your sisterhood.
Speaker 8: You're essentially in love.
Speaker 5: And it's like, okay, because because of our age difference too,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, I want to know my dad.
Speaker 5: We would go visit and she would hang out with
Speaker 5: Chelsea and Tag and they were like a little bit
Speaker 5: younger and play, and then I was just that little
Speaker 5: bit older. But through period that I would just wanted
Speaker 5: to hang out with my dad, So I'd stay up
Speaker 5: all night but his dressing room talking that is.
Speaker 1: And I don't care whose feelings I heard by saying
Speaker 1: this is our stepmom was very territorial with our little
Speaker 1: brother and sister and dad, and so any slight thing
Speaker 1: that would take him away from her and her family,
Speaker 1: she would kind of push us out. And so I
Speaker 1: was like, I was worried, and I'm being honest. I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever told you this. I was worried
Speaker 1: because you came in and you just wanted to be
Speaker 1: around Dad, and like, of course, what child wouldn't And
Speaker 1: she said I was a.
Speaker 5: Little bit more of a teenager. I was like becoming
Speaker 5: a woman. Yeah, So I was like, yeah, what have
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't want to like build a board,
Speaker 5: but I was like, whoa, I'm going to go into
Speaker 5: my dad's like dressing room.
Speaker 1: He'd just tell stories.
Speaker 5: And it was just that we were at that that.
Speaker 1: Eighteen she was going to push us out, so I
Speaker 1: was I started acting like I don't care about Dad,
Speaker 1: because I really did. I wanted like my little sisters.
Speaker 1: She's my best friend. And the minute she was born,
Speaker 1: I was like hooray, like I remember the day she
Speaker 1: was born, and like pacing around the house when they
Speaker 1: were going to bring her home because like I was
Speaker 1: just like I have a best friend. But I was
Speaker 1: so afraid that Teresa was going to push us away
Speaker 1: because you were trying to get to Dad, so that
Speaker 1: I started ignoring him and I would go bline it
Speaker 1: for the little brother and sister.
Speaker 5: It's so interesting because it worked.
Speaker 1: Out because she got to spend all the time with him,
Speaker 1: and then it wasn't you guys threatening to Teresa because
Speaker 1: I was with the kids.
Speaker 3: But the dynamic is fascinating because it's three different moms,
Speaker 3: but you're the child of each other, but you're still
Speaker 3: the middle child. Oh yeah, And what you're explaining is
Speaker 3: like pure, it feels like total middle child feeling of.
Speaker 1: Like we are very much like She's definitely like the adult.
Speaker 1: Even though she came in later, she still has always
Speaker 1: stepped up and been like leader for everything the mom
Speaker 1: just because.
Speaker 5: I went first with a baby's first house.
Speaker 1: So Chelsea and I technically are the middle children. And
Speaker 1: then there's our little brother, who's just the only boy
Speaker 1: and who is just but he is the opposite of
Speaker 1: Gypsy Tolerico. He's a construction worker and he's married with
Speaker 1: two kids and lives in the woods and goes hunting
Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with La or anything.
Speaker 5: This is a really interesting He's the best dad in
Speaker 5: the West, we all, even though Steven Tyler is our dad.
Speaker 5: And the story that the press always tells in every
Speaker 5: article ever is that like we grew up on tour
Speaker 5: and this right, wild crazy I grew up in Maine
Speaker 5: with my family. She grew up in New Hampshire and
Speaker 5: Chelsea and Taj grew up in Marshfield, Massachusetts, so we
Speaker 5: all grew up in this nowhere near Hollywood. I don't
Speaker 5: think I came to LA until I probably around meeting you.
Speaker 5: Then we were in New York a little bit. But
Speaker 5: it's very interesting because it's a through line for us
Speaker 5: in the way we are as parents and the way
Speaker 5: we raise our kids. Yeah, Like I live in the
Speaker 5: mountains in the middle of nowhere, and I'm raising my kids.
Speaker 5: So out of all of that, Mia always has been
Speaker 5: very much not a part of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the entertainment.
Speaker 5: Lage are doing the same.
Speaker 1: Yea, they lives in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: The fact that your dad is who he is.
Speaker 8: At what point did that sort of come into play
Speaker 8: with you.
Speaker 2: Guys as adults teenagers? You know what I mean? Was it?
Speaker 1: Well, it was more for you because you were being
Speaker 1: an entertainer and you were you wanted that world. I
Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with. My mom was trying to
Speaker 1: force me to be an actress. I had to do
Speaker 1: like auditions and stuff, and I hated it me too.
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't want anything.
Speaker 2: To do with that did you embrace I did you
Speaker 2: want to sort of you know, do I moved to New.
Speaker 5: York that summer I was twelve. I loved the freedom
Speaker 5: of walking around New York. But I was looked like
Speaker 5: such a woman. I was just a little girl, but
Speaker 5: I was this tall and this weight and high. I
Speaker 5: was like, but then I started. I think my story
Speaker 5: is that paul my mom was very close to Ric
Speaker 5: Okaysik from the Cars, and Paulinaporskov his wife, and actually
Speaker 5: they took pictures of me, and that sort of started
Speaker 5: my modeling career.
Speaker 1: Was that Paulina on the beach or something.
Speaker 5: Some of them were, yeah, really pretty.
Speaker 1: I remember those because we had I don't know why
Speaker 1: we had copies of those. There was like one on
Speaker 1: the fridge.
Speaker 5: So I started modeling. I was in high school and
Speaker 5: I got asked to go on a couple of auditions,
Speaker 5: which I was terrified to do because, as you know,
Speaker 5: I'm outrageously shy, and but it was just it was
Speaker 5: so that was a strange thing because it was definitely
Speaker 5: something my mom put, not pushed me into. She just
Speaker 5: was like, you're doing this, and I was terrified, but
Speaker 5: I did. And then she got no, mom, no exactly,
Speaker 5: which is so funny because she used to always say.
Speaker 5: She used to always say when I was little that
Speaker 5: I was going to be an actress when I grew up,
Speaker 5: and I didn't know what she was talking about. But
Speaker 5: like you, I was always singing, always singing around the
Speaker 5: house in the back of the car, just with like
Speaker 5: every hounds of my heart.
Speaker 1: You also wanted to be a kid, though, because I
Speaker 1: remember like your mom pushing you to do auditions and stuff,
Speaker 1: and you like, we're allowed to eat cookies and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then we would go because back then in the nineties,
Speaker 1: you could just run around New York City being little
Speaker 1: girls and with no parents, and so we would go
Speaker 1: to the store.
Speaker 5: We'd have like.
Speaker 1: Before that when we were like so fun club and
Speaker 1: we would get like five bucks each and we would
Speaker 1: go to the store, remember that time, we'd find like
Speaker 1: a stoop and we would buy like four bags of
Speaker 1: chips and some like yeah I wasn't.
Speaker 5: Allowed to We would yeah I got a Kudos bar
Speaker 5: in my lunch box. When I would go over to friends, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I would go over to a friend's house and be like.
Speaker 8: What I remember, I remember live coming into my life
Speaker 8: and thinking well, she's a year younger, but she is
Speaker 8: so much older than me. It felt like I was
Speaker 8: very sophisticated, and you know, I was like sophistic this
Speaker 8: older woman, even though you were younger in New York
Speaker 8: have been rolling blunts and I was like, damn, she's
Speaker 8: rolling blunts and she's like bom puffing, and I'm like.
Speaker 5: Whoa who. I feel like it's like I never because
Speaker 5: you and I never smoked.
Speaker 3: Now, I feel like everyone knows, like your dad obviously,
Speaker 3: but then when you really think about your guys as moms,
Speaker 3: you know, when you think about the life they had,
Speaker 3: both of them. I remember the one of the first
Speaker 3: times I met Beebie was we were out about New
Speaker 3: York and we were super young.
Speaker 5: I think even like.
Speaker 3: I think I was like twenty, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: even think I was twenty one yet before Chris and
Speaker 3: she had a young boyfriend. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: still who she's with, no coyote husband.
Speaker 2: It was her.
Speaker 1: He was died here died.
Speaker 3: And then we went to this like c Love was
Speaker 3: he playing and she was on stage singing, oh wow yeah.
Speaker 5: And my mom, by the way, was in the most
Speaker 5: incredible bit growing up in Portland, Maine. My mom was
Speaker 5: in the best band called the Gargoyles.
Speaker 3: But she had talk about talk about presence like Beebe
Speaker 3: was like, I mean a star in her own the
Speaker 3: way you know, and the way she saw herself too, even.
Speaker 5: As much as you know, it's just she just is
Speaker 5: full of life.
Speaker 3: Feels like like, so you had both of your parents,
Speaker 3: even though your mom isn't as well known.
Speaker 5: And that made me very not yet would you wouldn't
Speaker 5: call me shy, no, but but I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's like if I'm at home with you, I think
Speaker 5: that's it's like I'm I can be yes, but I
Speaker 5: tend to on that step. I think their behaviors or
Speaker 5: they're just like the tad dancing wild energy. That's what
Speaker 5: lived like.
Speaker 3: Live was probably like like going like okay, like like
Speaker 3: you know, it was just like constantly.
Speaker 5: And then I had my grandmother who is an etiquette
Speaker 5: like had worked in Washington and the government and was
Speaker 5: like focusing on teaching etiquette still to day she's ninety five.
Speaker 5: I was just with her all last week. And my
Speaker 5: family in Maine. I had like a lot of different.
Speaker 3: But you were creative side, like your mom and dad
Speaker 3: and that sort of creative energy is so intense, and
Speaker 3: I just think it's amazing that you came out of
Speaker 3: that as as centered as you are.
Speaker 5: Like I always say, you know, that's a recipe for
Speaker 5: like a wild child.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you And then it gets I.
Speaker 5: Think, I'm on my grand my auntie my and I
Speaker 5: know it's so weird to talk about astrology and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, but I'm so cancerian. I'm a double cancer
Speaker 5: and my other thing is in capric I'm like a
Speaker 5: cancer with cancer rising cancer. It's a full moon you
Speaker 5: have to do, and she does the best full ceremonies ever,
Speaker 5: But I very much okay, I don't want to do
Speaker 5: a full mom.
Speaker 2: I'm a virgo.
Speaker 5: Virgos don't do full are you talking about? Virgos are
Speaker 5: the most like moon virgos?
Speaker 1: I was actually my son was born on a full moon.
Speaker 1: Really do you Okay? So when the full moon comes
Speaker 1: a couple of days before and after, are you just bonkers?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like I'm bonkers.
Speaker 3: You're actually quiet right now, which makes me think you're
Speaker 3: thinking about something else.
Speaker 8: Because usually our podcasts are it's a lot of energy,
Speaker 8: and it's funny in this but hearing these stories is
Speaker 8: just so amazing. And I've known you for so long
Speaker 8: and of course you transitively, you know, but it's just
Speaker 8: it's interesting, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say, then your mom, who
Speaker 3: was like this iconic, you know, also pretty.
Speaker 1: Wild, she was more reserved though, she was more like you.
Speaker 1: She was very like, kind of shy and prude and
Speaker 1: just kind of like, now, I don't mean that you're prude,
Speaker 1: but she was just very like and I think she
Speaker 1: was intimidated by your mom because your mom was loud
Speaker 1: and big, and like, she just was very shy. Like
Speaker 1: I heard stories from Dad and mom that Dad was
Speaker 1: so he wanted her so bad and she was like no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, and that he would come to her hotel
Speaker 1: room door and just scratch on the door. And then
Speaker 1: finally one day she just opened the door and she's like,
Speaker 1: you can come in, but the door is staying open,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then I was conceived, you know,
Speaker 1: and Hawaii a couple of months later, So but that's
Speaker 1: how it started. He would just scratch and she was
Speaker 1: just like no, no, no no. But she was just
Speaker 1: very like reserved, but she was like she looked like
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. She was blonde hair, red lips, and she
Speaker 1: knew Iggy Pop and David Bowie.
Speaker 8: What was it like growing up like that for you? Meaning,
Speaker 8: you know, was there recognition that this is who your
Speaker 8: parents were? How was school where people like you as
Speaker 8: your parents?
Speaker 1: I was more funny about it because I just was
Speaker 1: like everybody, like, somebody come up to me like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, who's your dad? And then I would like
Speaker 1: I would do one of two things. I would be
Speaker 1: like bon Jovi just to throw them off, where I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh my dad died, you know, and I
Speaker 1: would just up with people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was.
Speaker 1: Just so annoyed by the whole thing, and so I
Speaker 1: just kind of played and had fun with it. And
Speaker 1: I just really, I mean, I didn't I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go by Tyler. I was actually sat down by
Speaker 1: him and said, don't go by Tolerico because we don't
Speaker 1: want everybody to know that's our last name. Now everybody knows,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, back before the internet. You know,
Speaker 1: he really thought.
Speaker 2: That that was like just from mystique.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like don't let anybody know. So people change their
Speaker 5: names because they were like too long or stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the normal, but I didn't care. I didn't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with it. I mean, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be a singer, but then Dad shot that down. He
Speaker 1: was like, don't do that, and I was like, when we.
Speaker 5: Moved to New York, we had such her mom moved
Speaker 5: to the Upper East Side and she went to Merrymount
Speaker 5: and we moved to the Lower East Catholic school. She
Speaker 5: was in a uniform. I actually did go to the disc.
Speaker 5: I was very dyslexic and ADHD, so I went to
Speaker 5: York Prep, which they called Dork Prep at the time.
Speaker 5: It was actually a favorite school. But I lived on
Speaker 5: the Lower East Side. So my mom was in like
Speaker 5: her punk bands, and.
Speaker 1: We had very different My mom was wearing like fur
Speaker 1: coats and for hats walking around which I still have
Speaker 1: her friend. I don't know what to do with them,
Speaker 1: but just walking around Madison Avenue and just with her
Speaker 1: little Yorky that she would walk and it was like
Speaker 1: and I was like miserable to get out of here.
Speaker 5: Hated it. It was not so funny.
Speaker 8: It was like it was from a macro standpoint, hearing
Speaker 8: it all just feels so sexy.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But of course there's a tumult.
Speaker 2: There's a tumult.
Speaker 8: It's tumultuous and it's fucked up, but it just feels sexy.
Speaker 2: Almost like the Mafia in a sense. You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's hard, but it's just well.
Speaker 8: For me.
Speaker 5: When it got really could have been weird for me
Speaker 5: as a teenager, I started acting and that really saved
Speaker 5: my life because yeah, and I got to work with
Speaker 5: these incredible filmmakers, Like I graduated from high school and
Speaker 5: left the next day to roam to work with Berda
Speaker 5: Lucci on Stealing Beauty. But I was so cool because
Speaker 5: my mom, I was a tough cookie, even though I'm shy.
Speaker 5: She had really like armed me with the ability to
Speaker 5: suss out a situation and protect myself. So I always
Speaker 5: felt kind of safe. I had that little New York
Speaker 5: but I was in some pretty weird situations. And but
Speaker 5: I got to go and work with Jeremy Irons and
Speaker 5: all these amazing actors, and I was so cy.
Speaker 3: And the women when I was nineteen, and then we
Speaker 3: ran away together where and.
Speaker 2: Kate in the movie Oh None in real life.
Speaker 5: And Kates friends here was with us and we got Yeah,
Speaker 5: we got to in the movie. We we were like lovers.
Speaker 5: It's so funny. She's always like, why didn't we really
Speaker 5: we didn't even like we were sitting on this bench
Speaker 5: and we had to make out and we didn't really
Speaker 5: make out. We should have actually really make made out.
Speaker 8: You weren't you weren't comfortable with your femininity at that point.
Speaker 5: I just feel like it wasn't you were Kate, wasn't.
Speaker 3: Yes, only masculinity a more reason why I.
Speaker 5: Should have gone in for the kill.
Speaker 3: I know, it was really funny. Like looking back at it,
Speaker 3: it's sort of liked, that was such a wimpy kiss,
Speaker 3: like we should have actually, really, it was quite a sweet. Movie,
Speaker 3: was very movie was very.
Speaker 2: Like tongue it was.
Speaker 5: It was a sweet and we were like best news.
Speaker 5: So it was just sort of like the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Oh and Claire bow Is on the movie remember my
Speaker 5: little Pomanium Clare spoops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything is a spoop.
Speaker 5: I could talk about this forever mea what are you
Speaker 5: doing now?
Speaker 3: Like are you I know, your mom, mom, mommy, and
Speaker 3: but you're so creative, like so what do you do
Speaker 3: for that as an outlet?
Speaker 1: You know? I don't Okay, It's one of those things
Speaker 1: where I'm at in my mom journey. So I had
Speaker 1: a son he's seven, and my boyfriend and I now
Speaker 1: I was telling you guys before a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: His mother had custody of her great grandson who's five,
Speaker 1: and she passed away in October. So we got him
Speaker 1: in the will. He was bequeathed to my boyfriend, and
Speaker 1: so we have now since since October been on and
Speaker 1: off parenting him, but we since January are full on
Speaker 1: parents now to him. So my boyfriend went from being
Speaker 1: like single guy living but I've known him for seventeen years,
Speaker 1: so we've been friends for a long time. But he
Speaker 1: was single guy living by himself two a year later
Speaker 1: living with me and my son. And we have a
Speaker 1: five year old now, and so I am I was
Speaker 1: just at that point with a seven year old where
Speaker 1: I was having freedom. He could he could go wake
Speaker 1: up in the morning and go watch TV and make
Speaker 1: his own cereal. We get to sleep in, and so
Speaker 1: now we're right back at five. So we are right
Speaker 1: back in.
Speaker 5: So you are doing the hardest and best job in
Speaker 5: the world, which is you know.
Speaker 1: What, I love it. When they're gone, I'm like miserable.
Speaker 1: I'm like where are they? But I crave them to go.
Speaker 1: But then the minute they're gone, I'm like, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just a full time Bye.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, we've.
Speaker 1: Already decided that when those boys turn eighteen, we are
Speaker 1: getting a tour bus and we are going to go
Speaker 1: drive around the country and just be old and be
Speaker 1: that couple that's in a tour bus living life. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I don't have any outlays.
Speaker 3: Love being on the bus. Yeah, I love being that.
Speaker 3: I'm happy doing that too, But.
Speaker 1: I'm in that phase right now where I have zero
Speaker 1: outlets for myself and it's okay. I've I'm forty six,
Speaker 1: and I realize now that life is about you know,
Speaker 1: we always want a partner like this is my equal,
Speaker 1: but it's not about being equal, it's about being able
Speaker 1: to carry the weight. So like right now, my partner
Speaker 1: isn't available mentally because he lost his mom and he's
Speaker 1: going through a lot of stuff. So I told him recently,
Speaker 1: I said, if you don't have anything to give right now,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I will carry one hundred percent right now
Speaker 1: because I'm really good at that. Like my love language
Speaker 1: is giving, and I'm like strangling to the boys. So
Speaker 1: but he's also he's good at balancing let him give
Speaker 1: to you, so right now he can't. And we've had
Speaker 1: that discussion and I and I said, it's perfectly fine
Speaker 1: right now that I'm carrying things because he's he's starting
Speaker 1: to come back around.
Speaker 2: You mean it's even just emotionally.
Speaker 1: Emotionally yeah, and just kind of. I mean, he's definitely
Speaker 1: there to help take care of the kids with me,
Speaker 1: but emotionally, yeah. So I think it's important that people
Speaker 1: understand that it's not about being fifty to fifty. It's
Speaker 1: like some days if you can be one hundred percent
Speaker 1: in the other person zero and being okay with that
Speaker 1: and discussing that. So that's right now, that's where I'm at.
Speaker 5: I'm amazing. It's really that's actually really hard for people
Speaker 5: to do. And I don't think I've ever been.
Speaker 8: Able to have to be really communicative to express that. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm about sixty.
Speaker 2: Five right now, you know what I mean, I need.
Speaker 1: But the secret there is having a good partner, because
Speaker 1: I have had shit partners in the past, and you
Speaker 1: have a great But I didn't care about myself until
Speaker 1: I had my son, right, and now my standards are like,
Speaker 1: and so my boyfriend, now, he's a great man. I
Speaker 1: know that he can handle things when the tables turned.
Speaker 5: That's so great. I think that way about relationships all
Speaker 5: the time. It's like the give and take.
Speaker 3: But also, really, what I'm hearing you say is like
Speaker 3: everyone's life experience is their own. We choose to be
Speaker 3: with our partner and we create this unit, but there's
Speaker 3: sort of this expectation that because you're in a unit,
Speaker 3: that means your life doesn't really exist outside of that unit.
Speaker 3: When it's so important to give people the freedom to
Speaker 3: have their own life experience, like a totally independent one
Speaker 3: of their partner.
Speaker 1: And figuring that out as a family is challenging, but
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. It's like when you do
Speaker 1: a puzzle and you get to the like you know
Speaker 1: the end, or you really figured it out, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is great. Like I love being
Speaker 1: in this chaos right now right it makes me feel
Speaker 1: like a really good mom because I love being a mom.
Speaker 1: I like my whole life. Everybody used to call me
Speaker 1: mom and Mia and I hated it, and then once
Speaker 1: I finally mom me, I was like, yeah I am,
Speaker 1: and I just I love it. So I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in this little puzzle right now and I'm like
Speaker 1: holding everybody together and I'm really loving it. It's stressful.
Speaker 1: I have to fly to Mississippi tomorrow with two boys
Speaker 1: with a layover. Yeah, and because I have to fly
Speaker 1: with both of them, we have to fly you know,
Speaker 1: Southwest coach, which maybe that's on snobby, but like I
Speaker 1: like to fly in first class. But so like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm going on Southwest because we can all
Speaker 1: sit together in a row, and like we have a
Speaker 1: layover because there's no direct flights to Mississippi. So pray
Speaker 1: for me tomorrow. But like I just I'm.
Speaker 8: Looking forward to that kind of stuff because here's the thing,
Speaker 8: no matter if it's if it's an easy trip or
Speaker 8: if it's you just fucking do it. Yeah, Like that's
Speaker 8: the thing. You just do it and you you get
Speaker 8: through it.
Speaker 2: You just do.
Speaker 1: So when I land tomorrow at nine thirty, I'm going
Speaker 1: to feel like exhausted, but I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Be like, you know, yeah, so what now that you
Speaker 3: I mean only touched on the surface. I'd love to
Speaker 3: get into like all the other year the you know,
Speaker 3: the rest of it.
Speaker 5: But let's talk about our female women adults about our child.
Speaker 5: Who are you? Now, That's what I was going to say,
Speaker 5: Like who are you?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 3: How would you look back and you reflect on like
Speaker 3: what you came from, how you grew up, the sort
Speaker 3: of like wild tapestry that you both came from.
Speaker 5: Oh I like that wild I love it.
Speaker 3: Friends, So but but like what you know, what would
Speaker 3: you say that you took from your life that you
Speaker 3: still want to give your kids some of?
Speaker 5: And what is it or not? Or what is it
Speaker 5: that like you think is so different from how you
Speaker 5: grew up? To speak for all of us, but I shouldn't,
Speaker 5: but I would I observe as the alpha pub elder,
Speaker 5: we all saw our parents like really busy working and
Speaker 5: like potentially career was always sort of first. It was
Speaker 5: like there was a certain things that had to be
Speaker 5: accepted and maybe parenting not always first. And I would
Speaker 5: say that all four of us sibs, we've really prioritized
Speaker 5: parenting over anything at the detriment of relationships, relationships, career
Speaker 5: or whatever. So where we all four have children now
Speaker 5: two I have three, milose twenty sailor is am writer.
Speaker 5: I believe it so that was like our I would say,
Speaker 5: it's been something for all of us to reparent ourselves
Speaker 5: through having our children and potentially healing some of those
Speaker 5: wounds while celebrating the beautiful tapestry, as you say, of
Speaker 5: what we came from. And that's for sure be my journey.
Speaker 5: And throughout I've had sort of two I had Milo first,
Speaker 5: just for ten years, and then I had a whole
Speaker 5: other family with Sailor and Lula who were eight and
Speaker 5: ten now. So yeah, it's an interesting thing. And now
Speaker 5: I'm starting a business and trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: I can be home with them and not be on
Speaker 5: set in a way and traveling but fulfilling my drink
Speaker 5: and drinkings and goals and stuff. I've gotten them, I've
Speaker 5: gotten n I've got all the samples. I love that.
Speaker 5: I was exciting. But it's so fun to allow yourself
Speaker 5: to your life. Friday treats.
Speaker 9: Yeah, all live, all live, but it's so fun to
Speaker 9: explorers seek a live live Well, you can come in
Speaker 9: and do a collap I'll just come.
Speaker 5: Do a song for me because you singing your songs
Speaker 5: makes me so fucking happy all day from you singing
Speaker 5: one of your songs on the toilet. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: whatever his coffy songs, they're so good. That is this
Speaker 5: like an Instagram thing?
Speaker 1: He just starts started sing freestyles, just.
Speaker 2: Singing, Okay, I don't know, you could seak anything.
Speaker 1: And the singer, my little seven year old is going
Speaker 1: to be a huge singer. I can tell. He sings
Speaker 1: most of his songs on the toilet. Go in there
Speaker 1: and it doesn't He's just singing at the top of
Speaker 1: his lungs c spot.
Speaker 5: I realized that Ronnie has.
Speaker 3: Speaking of toilet talk, Ronnie has what I have, which
Speaker 3: is when I'm on the when I'm on the toilet,
Speaker 3: somehow the door always opens.
Speaker 5: And I was like, rider, are you I get I
Speaker 5: want to talk? I want I'm like, I'm like, this
Speaker 5: goes way back.
Speaker 3: Was like and I'm like, hey, Tati, did we ever
Speaker 3: call the like behind the door.
Speaker 8: When we were living we were kids, rooms right across
Speaker 8: from each other.
Speaker 5: Door into my room toilet and be like so like
Speaker 5: all he like, I'm like, what is go.
Speaker 3: Into Oliver's toilet and and like and like goss and gossip.
Speaker 5: But then but Ronnie, now Ronnie, I realized.
Speaker 3: She she's yeah, she says she was on the toilet
Speaker 3: every time she opens it, and she's like, Lisa hurt
Speaker 3: than Nanny. She's like, I feel like tomorrow I should
Speaker 3: wear the like She's just like you know, the blue
Speaker 3: flower bell about.
Speaker 5: Us, and I'm like, oh my god, Spoopy, can we
Speaker 5: talk to one second about you making your dream come
Speaker 5: true and singing and your album because my whole life
Speaker 5: that I've known you, that's been like You're always singing.
Speaker 5: We go over to the house and she has a
Speaker 5: microphone listened to me. Your version of Creep is the
Speaker 5: greatest thing I can't I can't sing Creep any other
Speaker 5: way than your but it's so beautiful. I'm so proud
Speaker 5: of I told you that.
Speaker 3: And it's really funny because there are only like a
Speaker 3: can full of people in my life that really know,
Speaker 3: like have like unders, like I've seen it how important
Speaker 3: that piece of my life is. And it goes back
Speaker 3: to like what you were saying about your Italian heritage, Like, honestly,
Speaker 3: I didn't know where that belonged to Oliver.
Speaker 5: His songs definitely didn't. It wasn't a clue. It wasn't
Speaker 5: a clue. No, I get it, I go. But like
Speaker 5: I always felt very alone in my like your music,
Speaker 5: in like.
Speaker 3: That crazy connection. I think, what's so great about this
Speaker 3: time too? We grew up Like here we are talking
Speaker 3: about our family and we're being obviously you know, is
Speaker 3: you want eloquent and elegant about how we talk about
Speaker 3: how we grew up because we don't ever want to,
Speaker 3: you know, offend anybody or hurt anybody's feelings, and those
Speaker 3: things can be sensitive. But like we're living in a
Speaker 3: time now where people feel much more open about being
Speaker 3: honest about where they come from and what that meant
Speaker 3: for them, how they reflect on it. And then as
Speaker 3: an artist you don't have to just be one thing anymore.
Speaker 3: You can go and have a creative idea that has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with acting, and you can go connect
Speaker 3: with nature and make something beautiful.
Speaker 5: And the hardest thing now is focus though, because we're
Speaker 5: all so distracted. Yeah, and you're already adhd to focus.
Speaker 2: Then something.
Speaker 5: I have I asked I've passed it on to my children,
Speaker 5: to particularly sailor and live. I asked the woman that
Speaker 5: they see, who's this incredible reading specialist, if she would
Speaker 5: test me because I've found I've found so many loopholes
Speaker 5: and ways of memorizing my lines and seeing things differently,
Speaker 5: and but I would love to know, like all my
Speaker 5: kids have like total diagnosis, and I want that. I
Speaker 5: love you guys so much.
Speaker 3: Let's do our last little thing that we do, which
Speaker 3: is we're going to do two questions.
Speaker 2: First, do you guys get to see each other alone?
Speaker 5: Not enough? It's so stupid because it is hard having
Speaker 5: this many kids.
Speaker 2: Where like, yeah, I know, I mean so how often
Speaker 2: a year we just saw each other.
Speaker 1: Sailor's birthday and you do birthday parties or like Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: she does a big shindig, so we drive up. I
Speaker 1: love where she lives, so I'm always like, can I
Speaker 1: come up? Was like, we need to more so.
Speaker 5: Than the kids were up till like midnight, and it
Speaker 5: was and I am super relaxed, but I was like,
Speaker 5: this is too much.
Speaker 3: Spoopy is so relaxed that when I'm sometimes when we're
Speaker 3: like doing kids stuff together, she's so laid back and
Speaker 3: you're such a good strict mama. I am so these moments,
Speaker 3: but the kids are like jumping and running and things.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I can't discipline her kids. And
Speaker 5: then I'm like when I'm like, we went to see
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift. That was so cut Ronnie and Lula.
Speaker 3: But the thing is is for me then I'm sitting there,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like my kids watch that and
Speaker 3: they're like, you're the worst.
Speaker 5: Know me about me? Very was your mom very strict
Speaker 5: with you or very so? And then I don't think
Speaker 5: my mom was strict with me, but I was a
Speaker 5: little bit scared of her. Yeah, my kids are definitely scared.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh god, Okay, here's the question.
Speaker 5: The first part of the question, the two part question.
Speaker 5: First part of the question is if there's something that
Speaker 5: you wish you had more of with your of your sister,
Speaker 5: like sort of something you would emulate. What would that be?
Speaker 5: And then the second part of the question would be
Speaker 5: something that you wish that you could alleviate from your
Speaker 5: sister that you know that we would be you know,
Speaker 5: make her life just easier or you.
Speaker 1: Know for me like live always knows, like the things
Speaker 1: like real estaps, the yeah, the real estate, the soaps,
Speaker 1: like every time she comes home for Christmas or something
Speaker 1: like I kind of like what's in there and it's
Speaker 1: like that nutrient gena rainbaths.
Speaker 5: So that's from dad. Oh but yeah, that's and I
Speaker 5: was like, remember that ga like body oil.
Speaker 1: She always knows all the stuff, like the foods and
Speaker 1: the products and the like just everything. So I'm always
Speaker 1: like as a mom and a younger sister, I'm always
Speaker 1: like watching like when you used to.
Speaker 5: But if I tell you you don't like it, you
Speaker 5: can reserve it. But if I tell her, she's kind
Speaker 5: of acted because she'll send these like.
Speaker 1: Group texts and it's like get these night lights. And
Speaker 1: so the first thing I do there straight to Amazon
Speaker 1: and I buy all the stuff or there was like spatulas,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so she's always got like the she's
Speaker 1: always got the inn on, like the stuff that you know,
Speaker 1: like as a mom, you buy everything and then you
Speaker 1: realize nothing works and then like kids don't eat it.
Speaker 1: But she always just knows, and I wish I had that,
Speaker 1: So I just kind of like sit back. So every
Speaker 1: time I go to your house and like checking everything out.
Speaker 1: So that's like one of my favorite things about you
Speaker 1: as a mom, sister Mom, is that you just like
Speaker 1: you just kind of beast through being a mom. Like
Speaker 1: I know that you've had practice with like my own stuff,
Speaker 1: but like you just observe you know I would never
Speaker 1: know to find the nutrigen of greenbath. And I know
Speaker 1: you take came from Dad, but.
Speaker 5: Like everywhere I look and I like, I just collect, like,
Speaker 5: oh that smells good. That good, but it sounded good.
Speaker 5: I want to eat that.
Speaker 1: You have to buy children's shampoo, right, and you have
Speaker 1: to get like kids shampoo. But she one time she
Speaker 1: had know you had like pantine and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh right, Panteene two in one for kids. That's so smart.
Speaker 1: You just knock it out.
Speaker 10: And that was a game changer for the pante Lula
Speaker 10: has this like crazy curly hair and she always winds
Speaker 10: up in bed with me and the curls.
Speaker 5: It's so much hair. I'm like choking on it. But
Speaker 5: now I just sniffed pant there. But it's like I
Speaker 5: used to be a pante girl once, but now I
Speaker 5: have like I remember, I.
Speaker 1: Remember she's like on the trampoline.
Speaker 5: It is, so what would you alleviate for your sister?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've all been single moms and
Speaker 1: moms with partners and then single moms and stuff. So
Speaker 1: as a mom who's been a single mom and now
Speaker 1: I have a partner, and I know that you're single momming.
Speaker 1: I always my wish is to alleviate some of the
Speaker 1: weight that you carry with three children, because now having two,
Speaker 1: I know how insane it is.
Speaker 5: And I made to trust, trust, to love, trust, and
Speaker 5: just alleviate some trust.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Okay, are you dating?
Speaker 8: I don't, I mean no, no, no, Well let me
Speaker 8: talk to Aaron.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're going to do.
Speaker 5: Aaron's so cute. I've never dated. I don't think I've
Speaker 5: ever been on a date in my I can think
Speaker 5: of one person and I really didn't enjoy it. That's
Speaker 5: always been I wait for you, like Hi, I love you,
Speaker 5: we're together, like I.
Speaker 3: Just saw one of those of yours from like when
Speaker 3: I was in New York.
Speaker 1: That's my wish for you though, because like I went
Speaker 1: through like so many duds and just bad boys. I
Speaker 1: can change you.
Speaker 8: I can.
Speaker 1: And I have like the most amazing guy now that
Speaker 1: I manifested. And we were friends for seventeen years and
Speaker 1: I just never saw it. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: one day I said, I was like, if I'm going
Speaker 1: to date again, you need to write me a ten
Speaker 1: thousand or a thousand word essay on how you won't
Speaker 1: waste my time, and.
Speaker 5: He did it, he wrote me, and I don't care
Speaker 5: if he.
Speaker 1: Wants your chat GBT, but he wrote me about how
Speaker 1: he won't waste my time, and he does not waste
Speaker 1: my time now, and so I wish my wish for
Speaker 1: you is and he's like a hot biker bearded thing,
Speaker 1: and I just and I want that for her. I
Speaker 1: want her to like have a man. That's just I
Speaker 1: told my I told him, I said, if you want me,
Speaker 1: you need to bonk me over the He had like
Speaker 1: a caveman and dragged me into your cave because that's
Speaker 1: the only way it's going to work. And I want
Speaker 1: you to get bunked over the head. And just I
Speaker 1: want you to that's just like a man.
Speaker 5: I feel like relationship I've been mine is older soon
Speaker 5: and I were twin an older man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to get heart like I still.
Speaker 5: I have like a love in my heart still and
Speaker 5: it just takes me a long time to I'm still, you.
Speaker 1: Need an older man to bonk you. So that's that's
Speaker 1: my manifestation for you.
Speaker 5: A long time for me to. It does like if
Speaker 5: I love someone, I love them so much and it's forever.
Speaker 5: I'm friends with every boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I'm not friends with any of them and I don't
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 3: But then, but then when it arrives you you shift
Speaker 3: pretty quick.
Speaker 5: Yes. I was like, right, okay, yeah, this is good.
Speaker 5: That sounds great. It'll come, it'll come. And what about
Speaker 5: you for your sisters? What was I was trying to.
Speaker 3: Remember the first question, what do you love that you
Speaker 3: had more of a time energetically energetic her of her personality,
Speaker 3: of who she is.
Speaker 5: I would say the first thing that jumped it was
Speaker 5: just time for us to know each other more because
Speaker 5: we met in such an abrupt way, and it was
Speaker 5: always like we're siblings and we're sisters. But we've never
Speaker 5: I don't think we've ever. We have never gone away
Speaker 5: just the two of us and had like a sleepover
Speaker 5: weekend because there's always Chelsea there, child there, and my
Speaker 5: dad there. It's hard for us to just be.
Speaker 1: Together those like my gosh, places you go to, you know,
Speaker 1: because I don't want a colonic but.
Speaker 2: Coffee.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 3: But what is it about her who she is that
Speaker 3: it's something that you wish the same thing.
Speaker 5: I could alleviate her power and her strength, but I
Speaker 5: wish that she could surrender to trust sometimes that like
Speaker 5: but that, but but I yeah, that that she's safe.
Speaker 5: We have a very safety and trust because it's that
Speaker 5: thing of it's not like if the person is going
Speaker 5: to leave, it's like when are you leaving? Because I.
Speaker 1: Abandonment issues and that's a whole other episode.
Speaker 5: I love you guys. I know we don't get to
Speaker 5: ask you any questions about your sippiness, but you guys talk.
Speaker 3: About it all the time, you know, yeah, yeah, our
Speaker 3: listeners know so much about your dad and oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, headline after headline.
Speaker 3: But I want you to talk a little bit before
Speaker 3: we go about what you're doing right now so people
Speaker 3: can get excited if you can talk about it.
Speaker 5: You haven't talked about it with anyone, but I totally can.
Speaker 5: You can, okay talk about it secret person. It's so funny.
Speaker 5: I just you know what it is. It's that thing
Speaker 5: of as an actor, you kind of don't you always
Speaker 5: feel like, oh, the movie might not come out, even
Speaker 5: if it's a huge lease, you don't talk about it
Speaker 5: too it comes out yet. So I relocated to this
Speaker 5: little mountain town, and I always had these dreams of
Speaker 5: I've always been such a homebody and kind of creating
Speaker 5: things at home, but my whole life, I've had these
Speaker 5: visions of like chickens and children and music and food.
Speaker 5: And so I started a business that's called Pink Mountain,
Speaker 5: and I've been working really hard to kind of trademark
Speaker 5: everything and have everything. But I have olive oil, and
Speaker 5: olives were growing dropping into my living room and I
Speaker 5: started making olive oil and my favorite day cute. I'm
Speaker 5: learning so much well in our Italian eness. Like everywhere
Speaker 5: I've gone my whole life, I bring all of I
Speaker 5: have to just cover everything and ali and salt or
Speaker 5: I'd rather not eat it. If I have to go
Speaker 5: somewhere and there's no olive oil, insult, I might not eat.
Speaker 5: But I also adopted all these pixie tangerine trees, which
Speaker 5: are a special thing of oh Hi. And so I
Speaker 5: did kind of a slightly crazy thing. I covid happened.
Speaker 5: We relocated to this town where Mila was going to school,
Speaker 5: and I let go of all my representation, all my
Speaker 5: agents and managers and yeah, for three years, not because
Speaker 5: of anything other than I decided that I wanted to
Speaker 5: allow myself to be able to think without influence from
Speaker 5: other people, because we're always so influenced. Like you'll read
Speaker 5: a script and then you'll have one thought and then
Speaker 5: they're convincing you of something else. And I thought, what what?
Speaker 5: After being thirteen and starting, I just was like wanted
Speaker 5: to know what it was like to exist in something
Speaker 5: that I could create that was one hundred percent my
Speaker 5: painting or what was coming from my soul in my mind.
Speaker 5: And so I kind of like cleared the space and
Speaker 5: then put a little team together to help me do that.
Speaker 5: And so I've been working towards that. It's been really
Speaker 5: fun pressing local. Yes, well that is a whole journey.
Speaker 5: This week we drove three hours away to the most
Speaker 5: incredible place and I met this like wild, amazing mad
Speaker 5: scientist man. It's really that part's really interesting is sort
Speaker 5: of studying. I love to study. I think that's my
Speaker 5: favorite thing about being an actor, is having not gone
Speaker 5: to college and maybe not having the best education. I
Speaker 5: love learning things and in such an intense kind of
Speaker 5: focused way. So I'm just enjoying nerding out on the
Speaker 5: passion of like farmer Live.
Speaker 1: I love Farmers Live.
Speaker 5: It's so fun. We have chicken and cats, and by
Speaker 5: the way, chickens are the best pets. The best themselves
Speaker 5: to sleep at night, and they give you one egg
Speaker 5: every day. They're so cute.
Speaker 3: I loved my chickens for a long time, and then
Speaker 3: one lasted like eleven years. It was like almost a decade.
Speaker 5: Was crazy. People were like, chickens don't last all. I'm like,
Speaker 5: well she did. She did. Very sweet. They're little dinosaurs. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 5: it's not as simple as it.
Speaker 2: So I'm not talking about the workload.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying nature working with you know, food and nourishment.
Speaker 5: I've learned a lot from that that when we moved
Speaker 5: from during COVID, why I called it Pink Mountain is
Speaker 5: the town I live and has this thing called the
Speaker 5: Pink Moment and every day the mountain turns pink for
Speaker 5: about three Yeah. But I had never grown up in
Speaker 5: the mountain, and there's something so powerful about whenever I
Speaker 5: was stressing out going through a lot of changes, and
Speaker 5: I would go outside and there was this like huge mountain,
Speaker 5: and it just put everything in such perspective that all
Speaker 5: my problems and we're going to come and go and
Speaker 5: the mountain's not going any We all.
Speaker 3: Feel about Colorado like growing up in Colorado.
Speaker 5: I think we all like weirdly just want to be there,
Speaker 5: but we're not, which is weird. And in the wisdom
Speaker 5: in the mountain, it's like thousands and thousands of years
Speaker 5: of it's just there. Yeah, and all these all these
Speaker 5: other things are going to come and go in the
Speaker 5: mountain's still going to be there. Well. I can't wait
Speaker 5: for all of this thing to start happening and for
Speaker 5: it to come out. And people are going to love it.
Speaker 5: I just know it.
Speaker 3: Because you're working so passionately with it, and like even
Speaker 3: just the way it looks, and you're I didn't.
Speaker 5: Even get to show you. I can't wait. I can't
Speaker 5: wait to show you more. Other than that, I've been
Speaker 5: sending Christmas. I didn't send you any for Christmas. Every Christmas,
Speaker 5: I've been sending marmalade and all of the oil. And
Speaker 5: I love you guys. You're so far, so much, so fine. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I