WEBVTT - Walk This Way with Liv & Mia Tyler 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:05.560 Hi. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.320 I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.120 We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:20.240 And what it's like to be siblings. We are sibling. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:31.960 Railval No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:38.920 That's good, Ollie. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.320 I'm so excited about what's happening right now because like 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:43.400 one of my best friends. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:44.000 In the world. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.120 Been trying to get these girls on for years and. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:54.600 Spoop, Spoop is she gets scaredoos live like for Live Tyler, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.680 the Live Tyler, who is like I've known since I 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.160 was fift fourteen. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.360 But we'll get into this because she's here and watching us, 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:07.280 and they're watching us. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:08.400 They're watching. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.000 And Mia Tyler, who, by the way, we didn't actually 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.520 grow up with as much as we did Live. We 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:21.360 just met as adults. And I think you're meeting her 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:22.240 for the first time today. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.720 I think i've met you before party. Yeah, which one 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.520 I've met right for sure? 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:30.920 Your birthday? 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:31.839 Yeah? 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:39.680 Yeah, stop writers, But it was a leading Yeah, it 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.400 was one of those yeah, twenty years ago. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.679 Because I can see his face, I. 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.640 Know I have been told by multiple people for years 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.440 that you and I should be friends really because we 0:01:53.520 --> 0:02:01.240 are similar in humor and sibling wise eight more, not 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.800 in like a just as like a friendship thing, but 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.680 like everybody's like, you need to meet him. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:06.920 Oh all right. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.200 So when I saw you at the birthday, I was like, 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.680 and then it was so fleeting. So now here we are. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.240 You guys, you will welcome to our podcast. Thank you 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.919 so much you're here. I can't believe it did come 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.880 from it came from so we Well, first of all, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:29.919 we have known each other since we were six. Yes, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:34.000 because I met you were dating. She was swooping Alex's Alex. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.360 You don't have to talk about Alex. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.920 I came talking about, but I know all your spoopies. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.560 And I came. I was sixteen. I came to l A. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.359 I was doing a movie, staying with Susan and Peter, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:53.639 my god parents, and their daughter Katie Hoffman was friends somehow, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.040 So somehow we all went out one night, a whole 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.520 group of us, and over weeks that somehow we ended 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.400 up at your house. Yeah, at our parents' house. I 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.680 really remember. I remember you. I'll never forget it. I 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:06.959 tell you. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:12.160 I love telling this story because I'm meeting liv Tyler 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.919 and for me, you know, a girl in high school. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.800 I was at maybe in ninth grade, and it was 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.920 like v Live Tyler, you know, it was like beauty 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.320 was ow, you're a little bit older. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:29.560 Older, You're a little bit older. You're a little bit older. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.680 I remember, Yeah, I am how old are you? I'm 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:40.640 seventy seven, I'm eighty six. I am seventy six older. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.120 Oh my god, I'm seventy the old. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.800 So so I live walks in and she's in this tiny, 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.200 like adorable baby doll dress with I remember that with 0:03:53.240 --> 0:04:00.120 converse like converse shoes black and white, and and I'll 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.960 never forget it because it was also after you had 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:07.680 done Crazy the video. So for me, I was like, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.880 oh my god, what is she doing in our house? 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.600 We were school we were all in high school. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.120 Yeah, and then I was acting really cool and then 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:20.920 and then and that was it. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.240 And then there's ever your bedroom. I remember you came 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.800 into my bedroom. I forget because I got like, like 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.960 you still do I could see you sitting there. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.760 And then I remember driving to breakfast. We went to 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.240 Patrick's Roadhouse. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.240 Which is no longer over at your house. Did I 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.520 sleep over? Yeah? 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.440 But there's kinds of weird thing. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.520 Now at this point I had we were in. I 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.920 forget what car we were in, but I remember, yes, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:54.480 we went in. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.120 Your song was my side took me but just two 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.320 a little bit older. So this was like another another 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.080 visit and I'll never forget. I had my SOB and 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.320 Shpoop Live was like, you know, let's go get breakfast. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:13.480 I was like, okay, yeah, let's go get breakfast. And 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.200 and and I was like, we go to Patrick Shorthouse 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.080 and we got in the car and Janey got a gun, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.520 came on and you blast it and I was like, 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.760 this is this is so crazy. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:30.120 It's like Overboard coming on. Everyone sit down watching Overboard. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.080 Which. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.360 Such a great movie, but it's my favorite movie. It's 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.200 my favorite movie. Can number one. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.320 We'll get back to your story and Seid, let me pitch. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.040 Can I pitch you overboard in today's world to see 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.080 if this was flying? Okay, here's the overboard pitch. We 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.080 have a really rich woman who's on the I who 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.360 comes into this little harbor and this sort of carpenter guy. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:59.039 She's a total bitch, horrible thing. She falls overboard. Now 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.159 she's brought in as amnesia. The carpenter who she's a 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.760 dick to decides to kidnap her because if you think 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:09.680 about what he did, he kidnapped mother, essentially. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:14.880 That is what he does. But it's hilarious recently to 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.200 the scene where she's sitting and all the kids are 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.680 around and they're kind of like and she's kind of 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.520 trying to figure it out, and he's telling her the 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:23.919 story happened. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.760 Yeah, and she's like and he's like, you know, try 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.480 try to figure out his name. Try, try and try, 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:29.520 and she's like, you got to. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:30.320 Remember this one. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:36.800 Roy is now the dog's name. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.000 Yeah, now we have a dog cry. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.200 Every time window. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.560 Oh, forget it, but the necklace. 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.320 Mom's got the necklace. I'm still I. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.120 Cry when it's over. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:51.719 And he's like, what could I give you that you 0:06:51.720 --> 0:07:00.359 don't girl? 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.040 Jenne's got a guy. 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.640 We are driving down and I remember where we were, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.480 right at Lemisa and you know, near Chautauqua, and we 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:14.240 were crossing and. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.200 I remember it's one of those core memories. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:22.120 I will never forget your exuberance, like your life force 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.760 of like you know, I just will never forget it. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.920 Yoh, yeah, you were like, who was the top down? 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.640 The top was down? 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:34.800 But it was also that thing like we were so 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.200 young and we were so ready to go. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.760 We were just like ready, you know, and you really 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.080 wanted to be an actress at that time. And I remember, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.640 and your mom wouldn't let you. She wouldn't. She was like, 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.240 you're finishing high school and you had your SOB and 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.520 you could drive. And I was in your LA and 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.520 I was in New York. So yeah, it's so different. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.320 And I'd already started working and I would have loved 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.640 to have been in your shoes. 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.720 I am kind of at home. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.520 How old were you when we were all hanging out, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.920 even without Kate? When you were dating sixteen? That was sixteen. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.520 Now you were older, you were seventeen, and. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.240 Was I still were still in high school? 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.840 Were totally still in high school? Because when the Aerosmith 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.880 video came out, I was so in high school that 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:18.520 I would get. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.960 I was fifteen when that came out, so and you're 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:25.240 eighteen months older. So yeah, because it used to come 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:29.640 done in the morning, idiot, No, you're nineteen for that, 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.960 I'd done, I believe a couple like, yeah, yes. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.280 Because I turned eighteen when I did, right, So I 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.160 was sixteen or seventeen? Yeah, I turned eighteen that song, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.280 But when the video used to come on, I used 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.960 to get up. My alarm would go off. Like any 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.760 other high school kid. I would start getting ready and 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.640 put MTV on and it was the morning countdown, and 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.640 when my song came on, I would cringe and run 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.440 and get in the shower, and I knew that I 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.040 had like that amount of time whatever five or six 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.680 minutes to and then come back out to see the 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.720 video that I wanted to see that I wasn't in. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.320 But it was on the countdown for that whole year. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.720 I feel like, oh yeah, it was. It was huge. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.200 Was that your first gig? 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.400 No, My friend James Mangold discovered me. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:17.080 Oh wow. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.720 I was in his first movie called Heavy. The first 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.000 movie I ever did was called Silent Fall. I killed 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.160 my Silent was the Killer with Bruce Bruce Bears for 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.079 driving Miss Daisy. Right then I was like thirteen fifteen. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.240 I don't know, it's all a blur, but Spoops that 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.280 comes from that time we were in high school and 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.480 for some reason, I don't know why you used to 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:45.839 call me spoops poops. It came from Briston. Well it 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:51.480 was well that was later chunk, but it was a 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:52.480 lot of names. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.280 No, we used to do this thing where we would 0:09:55.320 --> 0:10:00.199 basically like her dad does this thing. He's always like 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.800 like a cow wow like and. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:10.240 And yeah, he's like yow. And then we would sometime. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.720 I don't know what happened, but we would be singing 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:19.760 a song would be like big goes well, spooby amount 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:20.679 of booby poop. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:27.480 Yeah, you just like yes, start singing yes and. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.000 Just do the song like that, and then she just 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.240 became poop me like it was just spoop. It was 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.320 just all it was poop, and then it was spoop. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.319 But then we'll call each other and be like poopy. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.000 But then I call you shoops and you call me poopy. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.840 It's not actually poop related, but you don't talk about. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:47.679 But you too. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:49.960 Yeah, like poop. We called her a poop. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:11:01.480 Yeah it's an endearment and poop poop, but. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:07.640 You've always pinched poopy poop and always sing songs boo poop. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:15.040 Even even even Ronnie the other day was like we 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:22.200 just leave each other on her voice so many times. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.559 And then and then Ronnie the other day, I was like, oh, 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:25.880 Live is coming, and. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:26.280 She's like. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.280 And I was like spoopy and She's like, oh, like 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:36.320 the kids don't even know name. But we then we 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.480 then after that, of course. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.680 You went to college and we thrived in our professional life. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.199 Where did you go to college? 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:45.760 Left? 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.000 Yeah, you went to college. We just from college. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.240 We just went a couple of years. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:56.679 We went into them. Then we were always together. So 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:58.560 like then like we went. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.680 I remember some reason, I feel like I knew it 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:01.480 lived before you. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:02.240 I don't know what you did. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.920 If it was for me, then you guys. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.720 Would we wouldn't have had that. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.000 So then I go to New York and we're obviously 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.160 both working and we're we went to a couple of 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.160 shows together. We then had a mutual bestie and Stella McCartney, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.080 and we were all so young and hanging out. But 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.640 then Spoop and I had babies young, so then you're. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.320 First you had Rider when you were twenty three. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.920 I had Rider, and then you had Myla and they 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.080 were like six months apart or eight months apart or something, 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:41.920 and so us being the younger mommies, we were so 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.080 we just I know, we'd hang out and she was 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.240 married to Chunks at the time. I called him Chunks, 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.120 which is it. He wasn't Chunky he wasn't chunky. It 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.280 wasn't like it was like it was like he was 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.439 so cute. It was like it was like spoopy Chunky. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:01.120 Like what do you call Chris nicknames? It was just Chris. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.679 But then we went on tour together. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:11.560 So then space and Oasis and the Brotherly Crows went 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:12.280 on the brother Lift. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:13.319 So we we had like. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.840 A very fun romance. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.720 Reversal because you had your own bus. So I was 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:27.520 in space Hog was the opening act? Then close yeahs shared, 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.440 you know, but so I was in the bus with 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.000 the whole band, with all of space Hog and you 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.680 and Chris had your own bus, and Shpoopy was just 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:48.360 living the life like so beautiful. I was like. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.000 Reality and then it was so stop. It just carried over. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.480 But you know what, you know what the sucky thing 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.679 is is you're coming to the end of your friendship 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.880 and me and I were just starting off right. So 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.600 in twenty years we're going to look back into another podcast. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:05.360 Remember that. Do you remember when we got movie? Yeah? Right, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:10.559 Crooky so goooky cooky cookie cookie cookie cookie. Yeah. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.560 So here we are, now here we are we are. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:25.080 Let's get into wellos Ven the sibling Revelie listen. Let's revelry. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.720 Oh yeah, yeah, I was saying this yesterday. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.840 Hello, we could re record it. Well, let's re record it. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.720 Sibling and I always have a desire to re record songs. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.480 We we like alone Heart. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.520 I wanted to be Anna Nancy Wilson I felis do 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.160 a movie. But I would have to transform myself a lot. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.640 You would, but yeah, I mean but we that would 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:50.720 be and then we'd be competing for the best singing part. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.240 But you'd be such a good Nancy. And yeah, but 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.200 I can do those high kicks the guitar. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.880 Maybe there's a movie here. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.440 We've been talking about it for like ten years. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.760 We do yeah, and then I can sing. I can 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.840 sing that. We can switch voices for them for just 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.200 the recording. I can do the ann his and you 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:10.160 can do videos. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:16.520 We're so good. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.440 And I'm just one worried about the audience. That's all 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.240 the people listening who are listening to this podcast. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:24.760 I'm just. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:39.560 Worried. Okay, let's get into childhood. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:44.800 Okay, let's let's first start with are you full. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.400 Sister siblings half half? 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.760 But we don't know all the siblings. My little brother 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.880 and sister are full and then there's me and then 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.240 her and then but we don't. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.640 Say half right, like what is because like what does 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.840 that mean? What do we say? 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:01.280 I know? I just said brother. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.840 I call your sister brother. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:10.160 To blood. You have two other blood to different. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.440 So there's three moms one. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.120 Dad got it right, Okay, So. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.880 First live was first. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:23.280 Live was first, But we didn't know I was the best, start, right, 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.000 I was, Yeah, yeah. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.240 We didn't know about me. Who didn't We'll get we'll 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:31.280 get we'll get into that. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.440 And then so my parents were married, so I was 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.840 the I was the first, but no I'm not. And 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.560 then he remarried years later and had Taj and Chelsea 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:49.520 got it right, Okay, So so I know where you're going, 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.280 and I'm very excited. Tell the story is my favorite. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:17:00.680 Story, amazing almost beautiful but traumatic like story because it's bizarre, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:01.200 you know. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:02.760 But live. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:09.760 You were raised by your mom, baby Buell, your mom 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:15.119 baby Buell and Todd, right, and Todd didn't know who 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.600 your dad was until you were much older. 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.240 I think like eight. We were sort of seven, eight, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.120 nine ish eight. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.680 Yeah, So okay, so walk us through this a little bit. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.160 Okay, So what the finest Well, so The story goes 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:36.000 that Todd and my mom were dating for Todd Tod, 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:42.560 excuse me, incredible musician, seventies on and off, I don't know, traveling, 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:48.640 all sorts of things going on. Somehow Liz Derreinger, who 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.119 was married to Rick Derringer hang On, Sloopy, sleepy, come on, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.480 hang on, spoop went to high school with my dad 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:00.399 with Stephen and introduced my mom and Steven at Access 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:04.840 Kansas City one night or something, and they made me. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.960 And one night I think he invited her on tour. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.520 To Europe after she was But yes, the first time 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.560 they ever made the love was in New York at 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.680 Liz And is that where you were conceived? I think so, yes, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.840 And I think I know the house, which is interesting. Interesting, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.600 that's that's that's a little side. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:25.800 Piecing, amazing. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:30.200 But basically they had a love affair. There's so many interpretations. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:34.320 There's Todd's version, there's Steven's version, there's my mom's version, 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.800 and then my whole life. I've been trying to put 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.000 all the pieces together, and it kind of occurred to 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:44.640 me in my thirties that it really didn't matter that everybody. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.280 It's like everything in life, we all have her own version, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.840 and they were all beautiful, and I've just kind of 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.120 like fallen into the puzzle of it all and working 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:58.600 on myself. My interpretation is that they were together, they 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.720 didn't really know each other very well. Well, I appeared 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:07.600 in the belly and I think my dad was pretty wild, 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:12.960 and he was extremely wild, definitely, yeah, doing he was amazing, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.040 has a tremendous amount of stamina. He was like the 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:21.240 most teasy, magical unicorns and did a lot of drugs. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:22.600 And I think, well. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.960 This is also the story of why he has scarves 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.200 on his microphone, is because he liked to hide his 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.119 pills and whatnots so he could do them live on stage. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:39.040 So that is, yes, he would have little pockets sewn 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.480 so he could be on stage and just take whatever 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.480 it was that he was ingesting. Unbelievable, So he was 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.960 pretty wild mart at that time doing things that no 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.959 mom to be as wild as your mom was too, 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.440 Like no mom wants that's interesting. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:56.240 She was. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.919 She was twenty three and pregnant and she'd left Todd 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.720 or but I think they were both probably having affairs. 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:08.040 I don't actually know. She I think got a little 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:12.320 bit scared when she realized how much drugs my dad 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.960 was doing. And I think, as the story goes, she 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.480 called Todd and said she was pregnant, and he asked 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.920 her to come home to where they lived in Woodstock 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:27.479 in upstate New York. And basically, he very courageously and 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.800 lovingly said, this child needs a father, and I will 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:35.920 be the father. Yeah, very cute. So I was born living. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:37.920 I don't This is where it all gets a little 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.719 bit confusing, because I think there was sort of an 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.840 agreement that maybe I would never know, or maybe I 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:48.800 would have to be eighteen, and then that was his 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.600 I don't think anyone. And I was born with blue 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.720 eyes and my dad, Stephen, has very brown eyes, and 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.920 I have very blue eyes, and Todd had blue eyes. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.800 So I think maybe there was always a bit of 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.200 a like, who is I didn't know? 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:16.080 That's so funny, I mean it, And even like your 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.800 baby pictures, I would think that there would have to 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.120 be some Most of it is so interesting. 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.360 I would love to hear that from your mom. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.720 You know, how far apart are you got? 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:29.960 Eighteen months? 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.080 Eighteen months during her mother is major, by the way, 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.200 this whole situation. 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:40.359 With us anymore, but she yeah, so I think after 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:43.240 that he had met So my mom was married to 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.919 David Johansson who just passed away Buster Poindexter. Yeah, and 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.960 he was The story I was told was that he 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:55.480 was a heroin dealer as well. Yeah, and so he's 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:59.960 selling Heroine to Joe Perry and his then wife Alyssa, 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.840 who my mom became best friends with because they would 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:09.159 all party together and David was doing lots of junk 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.719 and just not treating her so well. And then one 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.120 day my mom was up in the management office David 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:19.879 Krebs Airsmith's manager's office, and my dad had on this 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:21.880 coat which I just found and just gave to him. 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.840 It's like a you know, Joseph and the technicolored raincoat 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:30.159 or whatever that is, but it's like patchwork long, and 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.639 it was just like he had long, girly hair and 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:34.920 she was like what is that? And he saw her 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.120 and she was blonde. She was like the Warhol chick 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:39.760 at the time. 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.080 She looked like she was in Jean Jeannie the David. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.640 Major, but she had red lips and leach blonde hair, 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.919 and he was just like, what is that? And he 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.240 was like she always said, he was like, oh, oh, 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.920 what is that, Like that was the name of this episode, 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.240 and that was the moment that she was no longer 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.440 with David. I guess mentally right. And it's funny because 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.080 I have her journal. Oh wow, after she died, I 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.560 got all her stuff and it's like it's it's CF 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.199 because she went by sir into Fox and it was 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:20.680 like CF with hearts plus DJ David Johansson. And then 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.080 you see like all these like you see a couple 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:28.159 of blank pages and then you see something's changed and 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:31.720 there's like all these flight things and it's the flight 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.320 out a JFK where she was supposed to go home 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:39.040 to David Johansson in New York, but instead she flew 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.720 to Texas jam to be with my dad and never 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.200 came home. And then the journal after that is all. 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:50.640 CF plus ST. It's such a like. 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.680 Crazy history thing to have. 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.600 And they were married, they got married, So they got married, 0:23:57.720 --> 0:23:59.720 lived in New Hampshire in September and I. 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:00.680 Was born in December. 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:01.959 And how long were they together? 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.560 Eighty ten years, ten years, ten years married. 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.920 So your all of your childhoods are probably so different 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.399 because you're also getting get probably although you might have 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:19.600 a similar relationship to your dad. It probably was just 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.040 just completely different. 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.520 Well, we didn't have eight each other. Very interesting. 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.480 We didn't meet until like around like eight and ten, 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.680 but we grew up the same way without knowing each other. 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.600 So I grew up in New Hampshire. 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:33.679 And I grew up she grew up in Maine. 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.479 And the same year we both were moved to New 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:41.640 York City by our moms and we met, well, we 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.080 met at a convert and we lived Arison. 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.200 Show How old were You You met? 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:47.560 And I think she was. 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.600 Eight and I was nine, and I am kids backstage, 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:53.680 and so with her and I just played the whole time. 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.880 And I remember not knowing you were sisters. 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.760 Hold on, no, I'm about to blow your mind. Yeah, 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.399 I remember, because there was no kids backstage. So her 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.800 and I just played hard that night. And we were 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:08.280 at this VIP area, like outside of the green rooms, 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.120 and we were just like, you know, doing our eight 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.919 and nine year old thing, and this fan lady came 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:14.560 up and she was. 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.320 Like, oh my god, you girls are so cute. 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.560 Are you guys sisters? And we were like, you said yeah, 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.160 and I was like yeah, and we pretended we were sisters. 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:27.760 But what she didn't know was that my mom had 0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:31.199 told me I'm going to start crying. Oh. So that 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:35.240 night we lived in Maine, so my mom couldn't really 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.000 handle taking care of me alone. So I went to 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.000 live with my grandmother and my aunt and my uncle 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.679 and cousins in Maine. So I was kind of my 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:49.560 mom was in and out. Oh God, this gets so complicated. 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:56.239 Before before that show, she does I know you. So 0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.320 there's pieces in between. But Steven went to reab came 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:04.879 out part of his twelve Steps. He and Teresa went together. 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:11.480 He called my mom that they started speaking again and 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.600 arranged to meet in Boston at one of Todd's shows, 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.960 which was probably not I think it was maybe my 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.719 mom's way of thinking, Oh, Stephen just showed up and 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.520 it was so fun. But it was very painful for 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.040 Todd that part, I think, because I met Stephen that 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:31.600 night and then so this was throughout the course of 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.800 that year, he was around more. I had no idea 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.680 who he was other than I just thought he was fabulous. 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:42.720 And so that particular night that she's talking about, Guns n' 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:46.520 Roses were opening for Aerosmith. It was the beginning of 0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:51.240 their Welcome to the Jungle. Like incredible moment, and we 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.720 drove the gig I remember this, which is sort of 0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:55.800 at a place called Great Woods, which I don't know 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:56.600 if that. 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:57.560 Was me emotional. 0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:02.040 There's so many levels to this. So emotional right now, 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.840 so we oh, babes, don't make me come over there 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:05.440 and hug you. 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:07.840 I need to get emotional. 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:09.800 I just know this story. 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.000 Let's talk about anyway, keep going. 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:17.320 So we my mom was like, we're going to this show, 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.639 and we drove from Portland, Maine, where we lived, to 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.119 Great Woods, which is in New England somewhere, and it 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:27.600 was an outdoor sort of those little outdoor amphitheater venues, 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.639 and we were a little bit late, so normally we 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:35.440 would have just gone backstage or whatever with friends and 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.959 for some so we got tickets and we went to 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.399 the audience and we were sitting standing in the you 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.600 know somewhere, and Guns and Roses was playing and I 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.119 was so e seted because I just like loved Guns 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:54.280 and Roses. And on the side of the stage was 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.800 this one because standing there. 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.320 Actual used to dedicate Sweet Child of Mind to me 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.760 like every tour, and he'd like bring me out on 0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:03.640 stage and be like. 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:09.080 This is again to you, and I'd like. I just 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:14.080 remember standing there watching them play, looking and seeing this 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.840 girl who looked exactly like me, Like we literally had 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.280 the same outfit on Oh my god. We had both 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:27.560 had perms like spiral perms, pink fro races. We were 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.879 both wearing a Aerosmith concert T shirt with black leggings 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:36.719 and Reebok high tip go sneakers. I looked and I 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.320 was like, wait, that's me. It was really weird. I 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.000 was literally like looking in the mirror seeing you're double. 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.920 I looked at my mom and I was like mom, 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.280 and she just started crying. My mom just like Bald 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:57.880 And I was like, is Stephen my dad? And she 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:02.240 just like Bursted. She was just like good. And then 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.479 she took me to a bench and we sat on 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.480 a bench at this like outdoor amphitheater, and she told 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:12.360 me the whole story in the most sincere, beautiful way, 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.960 like within, the most loving, like loving version about Todd, 0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:21.160 loving version, about Steven, loving version, about the family that 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.600 had supported us through it all, and I just was 0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.880 there with it. And then we went backstage after the show, 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.560 and then there was me and we met for the 0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.240 first time, and I remember someone asking if we were 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.520 sisters and I didn't, but we but we didn't know. 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.440 But then that night, so I went home that night, 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.320 so I took a car and I'm like, they just 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.440 sent a car to bring me and take me back. 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.960 So I remember getting home and it was really late, 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:49.800 and I remember coming back and I was like, I 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.680 met this girl and she was so great blah blah, 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.680 and her mom beb me and she was like, what 0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.160 was her name? And she was like and I was like, 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.360 her name, her name was liv and she was like, no, 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.360 it's not. Her name's Amy. And I was like, what 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.680 are you talking about. She goes, and that's your sisters 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:07.520 and others. She goes, she goes, she was her mom's 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.040 name was Bebie and then her name's Amy and I 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.240 was like, no, it was Live and she's like, that's 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.280 your sister. And that's how I found out And just 0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:16.760 in this moment, and then I just had to like 0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:18.479 go back into my room and put nick at night 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.320 on and just go back to sleep. But then like 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.600 two years later, I still have. You know, it's funny, 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.600 I don't know the timeline, but I still have. You 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.640 started sending me postcards and like, and I just found 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.640 one recently and it was just. 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.600 Like, you know, we're like eleven years old and you're 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.440 just like And then we met up in New York, 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:42.840 New York, Liz Darreinger's house, who had entered the one 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.920 that from Oh my gosh, and I will never forget. 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.600 We were sitting playing and my mom and Liz and 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.600 her mother, Serrenda were sitting and they were you know, 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.479 like talking, and then they looked at us and wait, like, okay, 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.560 it's okay, you can talk about it now. 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.520 No, that is not what happened, I remember. 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.840 And then we looked and then we went there. We 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:06.040 have this all the time with siblings, and there's always 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:10.200 different person because she was older. All the time, she 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:11.040 was older. 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.320 So I thought, you know, I was like, oh, she's 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.120 so cool. But I already known. I knew that she 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.480 was my sister, but I didn't think she knew. And 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.040 and we both knew but didn't know the other knew. 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.600 But my mom started letting me go out with you 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.680 and Beebie and we would walk around. And I remember 0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.680 this because your mom would always be like, if you 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.360 want to have a tight butt, you gotta squeeze your 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:34.400 butt as you walk and like thirteen squeeze around New 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.040 York City, and then we went back to your apartment. Yeah, 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.280 it was like on eighteenth Street or something, I don't 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:44.200 remember where it was, and my mom had toxture that 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.120 dare My mom had to come pick me up. And 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.880 I just remember like the whole day. I was like 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.640 I remember even just being on like fourteenth Street walking 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.920 and wanting to blurt it out, and I had to 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.959 really like bite my tongue. And so we went back 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.719 to your house and we were I was in your 0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:00.360 room by myself. My mom had showed up, and you 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.240 were in the living room with them, and that's when 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.560 they said, okay, you guys can talk about it, and 0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.800 you came flying into the You came flying into the 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.240 room and you were like you know, and I was 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:14.280 like you know, and and then we just sat there 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.680 and hugged. And then we've been sisters ever since. 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.680 I was just getting anyone. 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.280 Always chokes me up the like you know, and like 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.480 it was just we just saw I think we sat 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.400 there and cried and like, and then we had so 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:37.880 much stuff in common. 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.080 Though, hugging each other. 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.880 And lipstick. You can't tell the difference. I'll try and 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:44.360 find it. 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:57.360 But when did you get introduced to your father as 0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.800 your father? I mean the recognition happened. 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.280 There your sort of similarly like oh that what that 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.520 I was allowed to talk about. 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.720 It your stage and you're like, is that my dad? 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.520 And she's like, basically, yeah. 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:11.840 I didn't know. 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.320 I wouldn't have talked about it with him. Did he know? 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.920 He know that you were? He did know? Yeah, Okay, 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:21.040 I think that. I think that even after I was born, 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:25.000 they saw each other, which probably gets into tricky territory 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:26.720 because you would have well, I don't know. 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.040 A little mom little. 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:33.360 And then. 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.160 Todd and my mom weren't together. I think they tried 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.160 to be together for about two weeks and that didn't 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:42.600 go well. 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.320 Did you think Todd was your father? Yes? 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:49.920 I was raised, Yeah, because for a long time. Yeah, 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:50.720 that's how I met you. 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.360 And was that so hard for him? I think so hard. 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.960 I think it's probably still very hard and painful. And 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.560 I don't speak to him, and I love him and 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.960 I have brothers from him, and I had a whole 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.560 family with them, but there was so much I was 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.640 a kid, so it was really hard because he was 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.960 mad at my mom and then suddenly Stephen was there 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.799 and we did a praternity test and it was positive, 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.520 and so we moved to New York. I think I 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.880 was twelve, eleven or twelve, Like I remember getting my 0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.799 jurneyest summer and like moving. 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.040 I remember the test. You were a little bit older 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:30.759 because I was like, why are they doing that? Like 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:32.520 it's obvious we all know. 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.279 Oh, but then that wasn't until after that that we 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.200 were allowed to discuss it. So I knew that. I 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:44.120 think I knew, but it wasn't until after I remember 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.239 being in New York, very close to where all my 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.560 children were born, having the blood test and it being positive, 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.239 and then seeing Steven and my mom. I was all 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.200 seeing each other together during that time. 0:34:55.360 --> 0:35:00.000 Like, now are those memories like obviously, you know you 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.840 have different perceptions of little those little sort of moments, 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.600 but like, does it feel like that was the beginning 0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.799 of your childhood almost or do you still have memories 0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:14.320 of being younger and just with your mom and Todd They. 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:18.240 Weren't together my mom and Todd. Todd, Yeah, they didn't 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:23.160 make it together. Oh okay, he took he took care 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.759 of me as like he was dad who he was 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.560 always on tour too and traveling. He had another partner 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.000 and two boys, so I would go and visit them 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.520 and go on trips with them. 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:41.280 I lived in Maine with my my uncle, my mom, 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:42.880 and sometimes with my grandma. 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.239 I was kind of raised by a little mix of 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.600 bush poopy. What was your feeling like. Did you feel 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:53.000 like you were betrayed that time or did you feel 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.680 just an excitement that you actually felt like now you 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.399 knew what your life really was like? What was the 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.480 honest I felt it was quite like sort of mature. 0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:08.279 It was very weird. I felt so much love and 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:12.080 so much I think because I had already lived with 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.160 Annie and Teddy and my my family in Maine. I'd 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.879 already lived with my grandmother, I'd already lived with my mom. 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.479 I was kind of used to I was, I'm such 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:26.400 a cancer crab. I'm very adaptable. I was able to 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:31.360 like soak up the love that I could. And everybody 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.560 was so different. So I remember to say. 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.440 The Tyler, well, you know, our real last name's Tolrico. 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.799 So the tolergo, we're Collabrian. 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.560 We're very like my dad's I was very Italian, very eclectic, 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:56.000 very like Gypsy, like gnome, you know, like all the 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.440 trees have faces in them at our house, but like 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.719 there was just like this weird, like not weird, but 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.840 like eclectic gypsy vibe and that's why like we always 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:09.040 like gypsy, you know. But like, so, did you did 0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:14.279 you feel like once you like realized all of us 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.960 were your family, that you felt like, oh right, I 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:21.160 belong here, like because you're very much even though that's 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.800 not your last name, but like gipsy teller very much. 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:36.279 I'm going to start checking into anybody. The queen of 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.840 it was like layers. The first the first wave was shock. 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.600 After that concert, we went home and my mom had 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.240 a shaved in front of the window, and I remember 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.400 sitting there for what felt like three days but it 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:54.480 was probably three hours, and just basically coming to this 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.640 conclusion at the end of like whoa, I have two 0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:01.920 dads and all this love and like maybe there'll be 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:06.880 two Christmases. I just was really excited about it because 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:08.640 they're all so different and so lovely. 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.880 Was there a point where as you get older, we're like, Okay, 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:20.160 now I think I need therapy so much. I'm saying, 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.560 there is that moment where it's like, oh and then 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.600 you get older, you mature, and things start to happen, 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.640 your life starts to formulate, and then you're like, wait, 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:30.839 I need to deal with this shit. 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.840 I think I've always been dealing with it. But for me, 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:39.759 I'm like, what's also just part of our job as actors? Right, 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.600 Like I started acting at thirteen or fourteen. It's like 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.840 the first thing you're doing is looking at the text 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:48.560 and like, well, what do you really mean by that? 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.200 And what's going on underneath that? And having to dig 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:55.279 into those places of your childhood and other experiences that 0:38:55.880 --> 0:39:00.719 human behaviors is the core of what do we do? 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.120 How did you feel that that? I always think more 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.120 about what that must have felt like for you, because 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:06.600 it was. 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.080 Like, well, I had always wanted I grew up an 0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.279 only child at first because my little sister wasn't born 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.440 until I was nine, Chelsea, I had wanted siblings. I 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.320 just I wanted siblings. I would stare and like I 0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.680 just squeeze my body as hard as I could, thinking 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.840 that that was like reaching whatever would bring me siblings, 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.400 and I would just like and pray for that. And 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:29.320 then and there. 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:37.520 Sister. 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.000 I had both a little sister and an older sister, 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:43.160 and it was it. 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.799 Was Chelsea so fabulous too. I call her, I call 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.480 her and Ta's Cheech and Chong because they were so 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.480 but she's a mom with kids now and so but 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.920 I still call her Cheech but she is so fabulous. 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.239 So I was just excited to have siblings, like, well, yeah, 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:01.840 I was just all of a sudden the middle child. 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.560 And it was great once you guys met, though, you know, 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.239 how did that relationship sort of continue? 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.319 You were both in were you both in New York? 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.480 I moved here for sixth grade and you were in 0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:15.120 seventh or eighth grade. 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.320 We lived such different lives. School to the Upper east Side. 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.600 Surrender was fabulous. My mom was like Lower east Side queen. 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.520 But she had this big. 0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.480 Dream of being She wanted to be this, you know, 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:32.880 wrapped in furs walking around the very sophisticated. So she 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:36.000 dragged us up to eighty second in Madison, and she. 0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.120 Was really mad at our. Surrenda was very mad at she. 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.080 Steven was very yes, because he had kind of left 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:45.399 her in New Hampshire. He had taken her from her 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.920 life in New York and then had a baby and 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:54.279 then kind of like left her. Sorry, dadhre alone with 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.799 me without family and for money or anywhereas like I 0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:01.080 had grandmother and uncle and a lot of supports me. 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.120 You were alone a lot with your mom. Oh god, 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:05.879 no money. Yeah, because he was a. 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.680 Heroin aount of money time that I think everybody always 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.680 thinks that too, Like we grew up so rich and 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.080 I was like we I mean, I was a toys 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.440 for Tot's kid for most of my childhood, getting like 0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.680 the local motorcycle crew would come and bring me like 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.000 used toys for Christmas. 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440 Asmith so many. 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.200 Because there was like the seventies time, then there was 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.000 like skid row time they lost everything, and then I 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:37.440 think it was the nineties, the nineties when it was 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:43.040 like sort of the videos that I was Living on 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:47.880 the Edge. I was like mart with your yeah right, 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:49.280 which is so cute. 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:50.000 I know. 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.680 They did he wrote pink I love that I was on. 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.040 I sang on pink you did yeah. 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.640 Uncle, I think Uncle Mark's a writer on that one 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.200 did going on Edge. 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.239 Yes, By the way, listen to Living on the Edge. 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.960 Drive home and listen. Listen to the words It's so 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.440 right now, it's so you're like, wait, this needs to 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:13.520 come out. The world. 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.000 They were up in the hills. They were recording up 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.880 in the hills and the LA riots started, So they 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.840 were watching the LA riots and that's where those lyrics 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:23.200 came from. 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:23.600 Wow. 0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:25.600 And that's why it's called living on the edge because 0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.880 they were on the edge of watching. 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.759 But how does your relationship progress two different moms? You know, 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.440 you guys were you found your you found your sisterhood. 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:39.799 You're essentially in love. 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:45.040 And it's like, okay, because because of our age difference too, 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.960 and I was like, oh, I want to know my dad. 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.600 We would go visit and she would hang out with 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.319 Chelsea and Tag and they were like a little bit 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.600 younger and play, and then I was just that little 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.680 bit older. But through period that I would just wanted 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.120 to hang out with my dad, So I'd stay up 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.480 all night but his dressing room talking that is. 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.560 And I don't care whose feelings I heard by saying 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.520 this is our stepmom was very territorial with our little 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:19.960 brother and sister and dad, and so any slight thing 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.400 that would take him away from her and her family, 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:26.279 she would kind of push us out. And so I 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.440 was like, I was worried, and I'm being honest. I 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.120 don't think I've ever told you this. I was worried 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.080 because you came in and you just wanted to be 0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.480 around Dad, and like, of course, what child wouldn't And 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:36.239 she said I was a. 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.280 Little bit more of a teenager. I was like becoming 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.320 a woman. Yeah, So I was like, yeah, what have 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.920 I didn't I didn't want to like build a board, 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.280 but I was like, whoa, I'm going to go into 0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:46.759 my dad's like dressing room. 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.200 He'd just tell stories. 0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:52.919 And it was just that we were at that that. 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.279 Eighteen she was going to push us out, so I 0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.279 was I started acting like I don't care about Dad, 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.160 because I really did. I wanted like my little sisters. 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.319 She's my best friend. And the minute she was born, 0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.880 I was like hooray, like I remember the day she 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:09.680 was born, and like pacing around the house when they 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:11.279 were going to bring her home because like I was 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.920 just like I have a best friend. But I was 0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.400 so afraid that Teresa was going to push us away 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.960 because you were trying to get to Dad, so that 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:24.279 I started ignoring him and I would go bline it 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:25.840 for the little brother and sister. 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:28.279 It's so interesting because it worked. 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:30.880 Out because she got to spend all the time with him, 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.360 and then it wasn't you guys threatening to Teresa because 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:35.480 I was with the kids. 0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:40.640 But the dynamic is fascinating because it's three different moms, 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.760 but you're the child of each other, but you're still 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.319 the middle child. Oh yeah, And what you're explaining is 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:52.399 like pure, it feels like total middle child feeling of. 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.400 Like we are very much like She's definitely like the adult. 0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.840 Even though she came in later, she still has always 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:03.160 stepped up and been like leader for everything the mom 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:04.640 just because. 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.640 I went first with a baby's first house. 0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.239 So Chelsea and I technically are the middle children. And 0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.840 then there's our little brother, who's just the only boy 0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.680 and who is just but he is the opposite of 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.799 Gypsy Tolerico. He's a construction worker and he's married with 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.800 two kids and lives in the woods and goes hunting 0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.600 and it has nothing to do with La or anything. 0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.680 This is a really interesting He's the best dad in 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:32.279 the West, we all, even though Steven Tyler is our dad. 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:36.040 And the story that the press always tells in every 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.600 article ever is that like we grew up on tour 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:42.080 and this right, wild crazy I grew up in Maine 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.920 with my family. She grew up in New Hampshire and 0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:49.080 Chelsea and Taj grew up in Marshfield, Massachusetts, so we 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:53.239 all grew up in this nowhere near Hollywood. I don't 0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.120 think I came to LA until I probably around meeting you. 0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.480 Then we were in New York a little bit. But 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.800 it's very interesting because it's a through line for us 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.200 in the way we are as parents and the way 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.080 we raise our kids. Yeah, Like I live in the 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:11.640 mountains in the middle of nowhere, and I'm raising my kids. 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.799 So out of all of that, Mia always has been 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:17.719 very much not a part of. 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:20.600 Yeah, the entertainment. 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:25.520 Lage are doing the same. 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.520 Yea, they lives in Massachusetts. 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:38.040 The fact that your dad is who he is. 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.799 At what point did that sort of come into play 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:41.439 with you. 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.880 Guys as adults teenagers? You know what I mean? Was it? 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.200 Well, it was more for you because you were being 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.400 an entertainer and you were you wanted that world. I 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.080 wanted nothing to do with. My mom was trying to 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.319 force me to be an actress. I had to do 0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:57.080 like auditions and stuff, and I hated it me too. 0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:58.879 I didn't I didn't want anything. 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.880 To do with that did you embrace I did you 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:06.080 want to sort of you know, do I moved to New. 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:10.400 York that summer I was twelve. I loved the freedom 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.319 of walking around New York. But I was looked like 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.200 such a woman. I was just a little girl, but 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.840 I was this tall and this weight and high. I 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.720 was like, but then I started. I think my story 0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.439 is that paul my mom was very close to Ric 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:31.080 Okaysik from the Cars, and Paulinaporskov his wife, and actually 0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.680 they took pictures of me, and that sort of started 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:35.840 my modeling career. 0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:37.800 Was that Paulina on the beach or something. 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.280 Some of them were, yeah, really pretty. 0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.399 I remember those because we had I don't know why 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:44.600 we had copies of those. There was like one on 0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.200 the fridge. 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:53.160 So I started modeling. I was in high school and 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.000 I got asked to go on a couple of auditions, 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.000 which I was terrified to do because, as you know, 0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:03.319 I'm outrageously shy, and but it was just it was 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.480 so that was a strange thing because it was definitely 0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.239 something my mom put, not pushed me into. She just 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.040 was like, you're doing this, and I was terrified, but 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:18.799 I did. And then she got no, mom, no exactly, 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:24.720 which is so funny because she used to always say. 0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:27.640 She used to always say when I was little that 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:29.560 I was going to be an actress when I grew up, 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.160 and I didn't know what she was talking about. But 0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.840 like you, I was always singing, always singing around the 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:37.560 house in the back of the car, just with like 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.240 every hounds of my heart. 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.880 You also wanted to be a kid, though, because I 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:46.440 remember like your mom pushing you to do auditions and stuff, 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.320 and you like, we're allowed to eat cookies and stuff. 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.160 And then we would go because back then in the nineties, 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:53.919 you could just run around New York City being little 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.440 girls and with no parents, and so we would go 0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:56.919 to the store. 0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:15.480 We'd have like. 0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:12.000 Before that when we were like so fun club and 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.000 we would get like five bucks each and we would 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:17.120 go to the store, remember that time, we'd find like 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.239 a stoop and we would buy like four bags of 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.080 chips and some like yeah I wasn't. 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:28.160 Allowed to We would yeah I got a Kudos bar 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:36.120 in my lunch box. When I would go over to friends, Yeah, 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:37.799 I would go over to a friend's house and be like. 0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:41.600 What I remember, I remember live coming into my life 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.960 and thinking well, she's a year younger, but she is 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.600 so much older than me. It felt like I was 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:52.200 very sophisticated, and you know, I was like sophistic this 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:59.200 older woman, even though you were younger in New York 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.080 have been rolling blunts and I was like, damn, she's 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.799 rolling blunts and she's like bom puffing, and I'm like. 0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:11.640 Whoa who. I feel like it's like I never because 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.360 you and I never smoked. 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:18.840 Now, I feel like everyone knows, like your dad obviously, 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.000 but then when you really think about your guys as moms, 0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:26.800 you know, when you think about the life they had, 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.280 both of them. I remember the one of the first 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.600 times I met Beebie was we were out about New 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.440 York and we were super young. 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:37.440 I think even like. 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:40.439 I think I was like twenty, you know, I don't 0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:44.440 even think I was twenty one yet before Chris and 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.520 she had a young boyfriend. I don't know if it's 0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:50.680 still who she's with, no coyote husband. 0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:51.319 It was her. 0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.120 He was died here died. 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.200 And then we went to this like c Love was 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:03.120 he playing and she was on stage singing, oh wow yeah. 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.480 And my mom, by the way, was in the most 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:09.040 incredible bit growing up in Portland, Maine. My mom was 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.600 in the best band called the Gargoyles. 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:16.320 But she had talk about talk about presence like Beebe 0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:21.040 was like, I mean a star in her own the 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.720 way you know, and the way she saw herself too, even. 0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.359 As much as you know, it's just she just is 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:27.160 full of life. 0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:32.719 Feels like like, so you had both of your parents, 0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.120 even though your mom isn't as well known. 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:39.520 And that made me very not yet would you wouldn't 0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.560 call me shy, no, but but I have. 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:42.719 Yeah. 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:46.080 It's like if I'm at home with you, I think 0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.480 that's it's like I'm I can be yes, but I 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.319 tend to on that step. I think their behaviors or 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:57.399 they're just like the tad dancing wild energy. That's what 0:51:57.480 --> 0:51:58.040 lived like. 0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.960 Live was probably like like going like okay, like like 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:03.759 you know, it was just like constantly. 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.600 And then I had my grandmother who is an etiquette 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:11.000 like had worked in Washington and the government and was 0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:15.080 like focusing on teaching etiquette still to day she's ninety five. 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:17.920 I was just with her all last week. And my 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.640 family in Maine. I had like a lot of different. 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:24.000 But you were creative side, like your mom and dad 0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:29.040 and that sort of creative energy is so intense, and 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.960 I just think it's amazing that you came out of 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:38.799 that as as centered as you are. 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:42.359 Like I always say, you know, that's a recipe for 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:43.880 like a wild child. 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:48.040 Yeah, and you And then it gets I. 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:52.520 Think, I'm on my grand my auntie my and I 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.560 know it's so weird to talk about astrology and stuff 0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:58.520 like that, but I'm so cancerian. I'm a double cancer 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.560 and my other thing is in capric I'm like a 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.680 cancer with cancer rising cancer. It's a full moon you 0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:07.800 have to do, and she does the best full ceremonies ever, 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:15.719 But I very much okay, I don't want to do 0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:16.239 a full mom. 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:17.000 I'm a virgo. 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:21.560 Virgos don't do full are you talking about? Virgos are 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.759 the most like moon virgos? 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:27.040 I was actually my son was born on a full moon. 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.239 Really do you Okay? So when the full moon comes 0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.160 a couple of days before and after, are you just bonkers? 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:34.640 I don't know, I feel like I'm bonkers. 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.200 You're actually quiet right now, which makes me think you're 0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:41.400 thinking about something else. 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:46.040 Because usually our podcasts are it's a lot of energy, 0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:48.520 and it's funny in this but hearing these stories is 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.399 just so amazing. And I've known you for so long 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:54.840 and of course you transitively, you know, but it's just 0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:57.640 it's interesting, it's amazing. 0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.319 Well, I was going to say, then your mom, who 0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:05.480 was like this iconic, you know, also pretty. 0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.719 Wild, she was more reserved though, she was more like you. 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:11.040 She was very like, kind of shy and prude and 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:12.960 just kind of like, now, I don't mean that you're prude, 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:17.960 but she was just very like and I think she 0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.520 was intimidated by your mom because your mom was loud 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.960 and big, and like, she just was very shy. Like 0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:28.839 I heard stories from Dad and mom that Dad was 0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:32.279 so he wanted her so bad and she was like no, 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:35.520 no, no no, and that he would come to her hotel 0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.799 room door and just scratch on the door. And then 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.120 finally one day she just opened the door and she's like, 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:42.880 you can come in, but the door is staying open, 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:46.799 and then you know, and then I was conceived, you know, 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.879 and Hawaii a couple of months later, So but that's 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:51.960 how it started. He would just scratch and she was 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.759 just like no, no, no no. But she was just 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.279 very like reserved, but she was like she looked like 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:02.040 Marilyn Monroe. She was blonde hair, red lips, and she 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:06.319 knew Iggy Pop and David Bowie. 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:11.080 What was it like growing up like that for you? Meaning, 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:13.680 you know, was there recognition that this is who your 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:17.960 parents were? How was school where people like you as 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:18.920 your parents? 0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:21.040 I was more funny about it because I just was 0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:22.960 like everybody, like, somebody come up to me like, oh 0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:24.839 my god, who's your dad? And then I would like 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:26.719 I would do one of two things. I would be 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:29.160 like bon Jovi just to throw them off, where I'd 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:30.880 be like, oh my dad died, you know, and I 0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:32.080 would just up with people. 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:33.239 Yeah, because I was. 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:35.160 Just so annoyed by the whole thing, and so I 0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:37.200 just kind of played and had fun with it. And 0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.239 I just really, I mean, I didn't I didn't want 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.319 to go by Tyler. I was actually sat down by 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.000 him and said, don't go by Tolerico because we don't 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.120 want everybody to know that's our last name. Now everybody knows, 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:51.719 but it's you know, back before the internet. You know, 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:52.640 he really thought. 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:54.040 That that was like just from mystique. 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.440 Yeah, like don't let anybody know. So people change their 0:55:57.520 --> 0:55:59.840 names because they were like too long or stage. 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:03.680 Yeah, the normal, but I didn't care. I didn't want 0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:04.920 anything to do with it. I mean, I wanted to 0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:06.920 be a singer, but then Dad shot that down. He 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.799 was like, don't do that, and I was like, when we. 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.600 Moved to New York, we had such her mom moved 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:16.239 to the Upper East Side and she went to Merrymount 0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:20.000 and we moved to the Lower East Catholic school. She 0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:22.520 was in a uniform. I actually did go to the disc. 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:26.040 I was very dyslexic and ADHD, so I went to 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.359 York Prep, which they called Dork Prep at the time. 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.440 It was actually a favorite school. But I lived on 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:33.880 the Lower East Side. So my mom was in like 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:34.960 her punk bands, and. 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.680 We had very different My mom was wearing like fur 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.239 coats and for hats walking around which I still have 0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:41.839 her friend. I don't know what to do with them, 0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:46.719 but just walking around Madison Avenue and just with her 0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.200 little Yorky that she would walk and it was like 0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:52.560 and I was like miserable to get out of here. 0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:57.080 Hated it. It was not so funny. 0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:00.319 It was like it was from a macro standpoint, hearing 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.480 it all just feels so sexy. 0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:04.760 You know what I mean? But of course there's a tumult. 0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:05.480 There's a tumult. 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:10.280 It's tumultuous and it's fucked up, but it just feels sexy. 0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:12.959 Almost like the Mafia in a sense. You know, it's 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:14.719 it's hard, but it's just well. 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:15.040 For me. 0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:18.680 When it got really could have been weird for me 0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.120 as a teenager, I started acting and that really saved 0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:24.720 my life because yeah, and I got to work with 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:29.920 these incredible filmmakers, Like I graduated from high school and 0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.520 left the next day to roam to work with Berda 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:35.720 Lucci on Stealing Beauty. But I was so cool because 0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:38.919 my mom, I was a tough cookie, even though I'm shy. 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:44.080 She had really like armed me with the ability to 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.920 suss out a situation and protect myself. So I always 0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:48.920 felt kind of safe. I had that little New York 0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:53.680 but I was in some pretty weird situations. And but 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:56.120 I got to go and work with Jeremy Irons and 0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.720 all these amazing actors, and I was so cy. 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.040 And the women when I was nineteen, and then we 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:04.400 ran away together where and. 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.960 Kate in the movie Oh None in real life. 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:11.800 And Kates friends here was with us and we got Yeah, 0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:14.640 we got to in the movie. We we were like lovers. 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:18.000 It's so funny. She's always like, why didn't we really 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:20.120 we didn't even like we were sitting on this bench 0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.880 and we had to make out and we didn't really 0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.120 make out. We should have actually really make made out. 0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:28.320 You weren't you weren't comfortable with your femininity at that point. 0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:31.080 I just feel like it wasn't you were Kate, wasn't. 0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:39.400 Yes, only masculinity a more reason why I. 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:40.880 Should have gone in for the kill. 0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:44.520 I know, it was really funny. Like looking back at it, 0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:47.080 it's sort of liked, that was such a wimpy kiss, 0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:49.920 like we should have actually, really, it was quite a sweet. Movie, 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:51.520 was very movie was very. 0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:56.400 Like tongue it was. 0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:58.919 It was a sweet and we were like best news. 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:00.720 So it was just sort of like the whole thing. 0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:03.360 Oh and Claire bow Is on the movie remember my 0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:05.120 little Pomanium Clare spoops. 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:08.400 Yeah, everything is a spoop. 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:20.520 I could talk about this forever mea what are you 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:21.120 doing now? 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:27.560 Like are you I know, your mom, mom, mommy, and 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:30.080 but you're so creative, like so what do you do 0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:31.120 for that as an outlet? 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.160 You know? I don't Okay, It's one of those things 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:37.000 where I'm at in my mom journey. So I had 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:41.640 a son he's seven, and my boyfriend and I now 0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:43.240 I was telling you guys before a little bit. 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:44.120 Uh. 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:51.040 His mother had custody of her great grandson who's five, 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:55.680 and she passed away in October. So we got him 0:59:56.120 --> 1:00:00.440 in the will. He was bequeathed to my boyfriend, and 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:06.440 so we have now since since October been on and 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:09.640 off parenting him, but we since January are full on 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.720 parents now to him. So my boyfriend went from being 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.880 like single guy living but I've known him for seventeen years, 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:17.440 so we've been friends for a long time. But he 1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:21.440 was single guy living by himself two a year later 1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:24.520 living with me and my son. And we have a 1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:27.760 five year old now, and so I am I was 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:29.960 just at that point with a seven year old where 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:34.080 I was having freedom. He could he could go wake 1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:35.920 up in the morning and go watch TV and make 1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:38.240 his own cereal. We get to sleep in, and so 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:41.080 now we're right back at five. So we are right 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:41.480 back in. 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:45.800 So you are doing the hardest and best job in 1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:47.000 the world, which is you know. 1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:49.480 What, I love it. When they're gone, I'm like miserable. 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:52.240 I'm like where are they? But I crave them to go. 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:56.600 But then the minute they're gone, I'm like, yeah, oh yeah, 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:59.400 I'm just a full time Bye. 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:02.760 I'm saying, we've. 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:06.160 Already decided that when those boys turn eighteen, we are 1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:09.120 getting a tour bus and we are going to go 1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:13.840 drive around the country and just be old and be 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:18.080 that couple that's in a tour bus living life. But yeah, 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:19.280 I'm I don't have any outlays. 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:21.360 Love being on the bus. Yeah, I love being that. 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.000 I'm happy doing that too, But. 1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:25.720 I'm in that phase right now where I have zero 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:29.439 outlets for myself and it's okay. I've I'm forty six, 1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:33.040 and I realize now that life is about you know, 1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:35.040 we always want a partner like this is my equal, 1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:38.000 but it's not about being equal, it's about being able 1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:41.880 to carry the weight. So like right now, my partner 1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:45.880 isn't available mentally because he lost his mom and he's 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:48.160 going through a lot of stuff. So I told him recently, 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:51.400 I said, if you don't have anything to give right now, 1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:53.880 that's fine. I will carry one hundred percent right now 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:57.080 because I'm really good at that. Like my love language 1:01:57.120 --> 1:02:00.760 is giving, and I'm like strangling to the boys. So 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:03.520 but he's also he's good at balancing let him give 1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:06.240 to you, so right now he can't. And we've had 1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:08.800 that discussion and I and I said, it's perfectly fine 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:12.120 right now that I'm carrying things because he's he's starting 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:12.960 to come back around. 1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:14.480 You mean it's even just emotionally. 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:17.440 Emotionally yeah, and just kind of. I mean, he's definitely 1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:19.160 there to help take care of the kids with me, 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:22.440 but emotionally, yeah. So I think it's important that people 1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:25.919 understand that it's not about being fifty to fifty. It's 1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:28.640 like some days if you can be one hundred percent 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:30.600 in the other person zero and being okay with that 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:33.680 and discussing that. So that's right now, that's where I'm at. 1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:36.720 I'm amazing. It's really that's actually really hard for people 1:02:36.800 --> 1:02:38.720 to do. And I don't think I've ever been. 1:02:38.640 --> 1:02:42.280 Able to have to be really communicative to express that. Yeah, 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:43.800 I'm about sixty. 1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:45.959 Five right now, you know what I mean, I need. 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:49.160 But the secret there is having a good partner, because 1:02:49.240 --> 1:02:51.480 I have had shit partners in the past, and you 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:53.120 have a great But I didn't care about myself until 1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:55.760 I had my son, right, and now my standards are like, 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:59.480 and so my boyfriend, now, he's a great man. I 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:02.760 know that he can handle things when the tables turned. 1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:05.680 That's so great. I think that way about relationships all 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:10.160 the time. It's like the give and take. 1:03:10.520 --> 1:03:13.920 But also, really, what I'm hearing you say is like 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:19.640 everyone's life experience is their own. We choose to be 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:22.320 with our partner and we create this unit, but there's 1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:25.680 sort of this expectation that because you're in a unit, 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:28.680 that means your life doesn't really exist outside of that unit. 1:03:28.840 --> 1:03:32.080 When it's so important to give people the freedom to 1:03:32.160 --> 1:03:35.360 have their own life experience, like a totally independent one 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:37.120 of their partner. 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:40.760 And figuring that out as a family is challenging, but 1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:43.720 you know what it's like. It's like when you do 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:46.080 a puzzle and you get to the like you know 1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:47.920 the end, or you really figured it out, and you're like, 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:49.959 oh my god, this is great. Like I love being 1:03:50.000 --> 1:03:52.520 in this chaos right now right it makes me feel 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:54.959 like a really good mom because I love being a mom. 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:57.480 I like my whole life. Everybody used to call me 1:03:57.560 --> 1:03:59.480 mom and Mia and I hated it, and then once 1:03:59.520 --> 1:04:02.280 I finally mom me, I was like, yeah I am, 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:04.920 and I just I love it. So I feel like 1:04:05.240 --> 1:04:07.120 I'm in this little puzzle right now and I'm like 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:11.120 holding everybody together and I'm really loving it. It's stressful. 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:14.840 I have to fly to Mississippi tomorrow with two boys 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:17.760 with a layover. Yeah, and because I have to fly 1:04:18.040 --> 1:04:19.840 with both of them, we have to fly you know, 1:04:20.120 --> 1:04:23.760 Southwest coach, which maybe that's on snobby, but like I 1:04:23.840 --> 1:04:26.000 like to fly in first class. But so like you know, 1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:29.840 I'm I'm I'm going on Southwest because we can all 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:32.080 sit together in a row, and like we have a 1:04:32.160 --> 1:04:35.880 layover because there's no direct flights to Mississippi. So pray 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:38.360 for me tomorrow. But like I just I'm. 1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:40.560 Looking forward to that kind of stuff because here's the thing, 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:43.400 no matter if it's if it's an easy trip or 1:04:43.400 --> 1:04:46.360 if it's you just fucking do it. Yeah, Like that's 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:49.560 the thing. You just do it and you you get 1:04:49.560 --> 1:04:49.920 through it. 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:50.919 You just do. 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:53.520 So when I land tomorrow at nine thirty, I'm going 1:04:53.600 --> 1:04:55.960 to feel like exhausted, but I'm going to. 1:04:55.920 --> 1:04:59.240 Be like, you know, yeah, so what now that you 1:04:59.400 --> 1:05:02.160 I mean only touched on the surface. I'd love to 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:04.480 get into like all the other year the you know, 1:05:04.800 --> 1:05:06.160 the rest of it. 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:11.680 But let's talk about our female women adults about our child. 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:15.120 Who are you? Now, That's what I was going to say, 1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:16.080 Like who are you? 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:16.600 Like? 1:05:16.760 --> 1:05:19.440 How would you look back and you reflect on like 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:24.439 what you came from, how you grew up, the sort 1:05:24.480 --> 1:05:28.560 of like wild tapestry that you both came from. 1:05:28.720 --> 1:05:34.040 Oh I like that wild I love it. 1:05:40.440 --> 1:05:48.240 Friends, So but but like what you know, what would 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:51.480 you say that you took from your life that you 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:53.360 still want to give your kids some of? 1:05:53.680 --> 1:05:56.400 And what is it or not? Or what is it 1:05:56.440 --> 1:05:58.920 that like you think is so different from how you 1:05:58.960 --> 1:06:02.440 grew up? To speak for all of us, but I shouldn't, 1:06:02.480 --> 1:06:06.720 but I would I observe as the alpha pub elder, 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:14.480 we all saw our parents like really busy working and 1:06:14.560 --> 1:06:18.800 like potentially career was always sort of first. It was 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:20.760 like there was a certain things that had to be 1:06:20.880 --> 1:06:25.520 accepted and maybe parenting not always first. And I would 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:32.920 say that all four of us sibs, we've really prioritized 1:06:33.000 --> 1:06:39.480 parenting over anything at the detriment of relationships, relationships, career 1:06:39.560 --> 1:06:45.040 or whatever. So where we all four have children now 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:51.960 two I have three, milose twenty sailor is am writer. 1:06:52.120 --> 1:06:55.800 I believe it so that was like our I would say, 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:59.240 it's been something for all of us to reparent ourselves 1:07:01.200 --> 1:07:05.840 through having our children and potentially healing some of those 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:10.520 wounds while celebrating the beautiful tapestry, as you say, of 1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:14.840 what we came from. And that's for sure be my journey. 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:19.040 And throughout I've had sort of two I had Milo first, 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:21.320 just for ten years, and then I had a whole 1:07:21.360 --> 1:07:23.720 other family with Sailor and Lula who were eight and 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:29.080 ten now. So yeah, it's an interesting thing. And now 1:07:29.160 --> 1:07:31.800 I'm starting a business and trying to figure out how 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:33.760 I can be home with them and not be on 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:39.560 set in a way and traveling but fulfilling my drink 1:07:39.600 --> 1:07:42.880 and drinkings and goals and stuff. I've gotten them, I've 1:07:42.880 --> 1:07:46.600 gotten n I've got all the samples. I love that. 1:07:46.760 --> 1:07:50.960 I was exciting. But it's so fun to allow yourself 1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:53.960 to your life. Friday treats. 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:58.320 Yeah, all live, all live, but it's so fun to 1:07:58.480 --> 1:08:04.280 explorers seek a live live Well, you can come in 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:07.240 and do a collap I'll just come. 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:11.080 Do a song for me because you singing your songs 1:08:11.200 --> 1:08:16.320 makes me so fucking happy all day from you singing 1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:18.439 one of your songs on the toilet. Oh my god, 1:08:18.560 --> 1:08:25.200 whatever his coffy songs, they're so good. That is this 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:26.280 like an Instagram thing? 1:08:26.479 --> 1:08:33.639 He just starts started sing freestyles, just. 1:08:33.520 --> 1:08:36.800 Singing, Okay, I don't know, you could seak anything. 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:40.680 And the singer, my little seven year old is going 1:08:40.760 --> 1:08:43.959 to be a huge singer. I can tell. He sings 1:08:44.200 --> 1:08:47.280 most of his songs on the toilet. Go in there 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:49.880 and it doesn't He's just singing at the top of 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:52.360 his lungs c spot. 1:08:52.840 --> 1:08:54.160 I realized that Ronnie has. 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:57.160 Speaking of toilet talk, Ronnie has what I have, which 1:08:57.200 --> 1:08:59.120 is when I'm on the when I'm on the toilet, 1:08:59.479 --> 1:09:00.719 somehow the door always opens. 1:09:00.720 --> 1:09:05.400 And I was like, rider, are you I get I 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:08.120 want to talk? I want I'm like, I'm like, this 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:08.800 goes way back. 1:09:14.360 --> 1:09:16.800 Was like and I'm like, hey, Tati, did we ever 1:09:16.880 --> 1:09:19.599 call the like behind the door. 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:23.479 When we were living we were kids, rooms right across 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:23.920 from each other. 1:09:24.280 --> 1:09:29.200 Door into my room toilet and be like so like 1:09:29.400 --> 1:09:31.479 all he like, I'm like, what is go. 1:09:33.800 --> 1:09:37.719 Into Oliver's toilet and and like and like goss and gossip. 1:09:38.080 --> 1:09:41.160 But then but Ronnie, now Ronnie, I realized. 1:09:40.840 --> 1:09:45.200 She she's yeah, she says she was on the toilet 1:09:45.240 --> 1:09:48.519 every time she opens it, and she's like, Lisa hurt 1:09:48.640 --> 1:09:51.479 than Nanny. She's like, I feel like tomorrow I should 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:55.479 wear the like She's just like you know, the blue 1:09:55.520 --> 1:09:56.599 flower bell about. 1:09:56.439 --> 1:09:59.320 Us, and I'm like, oh my god, Spoopy, can we 1:09:59.400 --> 1:10:02.800 talk to one second about you making your dream come 1:10:02.840 --> 1:10:05.719 true and singing and your album because my whole life 1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:09.280 that I've known you, that's been like You're always singing. 1:10:09.880 --> 1:10:12.360 We go over to the house and she has a 1:10:12.439 --> 1:10:19.559 microphone listened to me. Your version of Creep is the 1:10:19.600 --> 1:10:22.920 greatest thing I can't I can't sing Creep any other 1:10:22.960 --> 1:10:26.120 way than your but it's so beautiful. I'm so proud 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:28.720 of I told you that. 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:31.800 And it's really funny because there are only like a 1:10:31.880 --> 1:10:35.160 can full of people in my life that really know, 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:41.480 like have like unders, like I've seen it how important 1:10:41.760 --> 1:10:44.760 that piece of my life is. And it goes back 1:10:44.760 --> 1:10:47.920 to like what you were saying about your Italian heritage, Like, honestly, 1:10:48.280 --> 1:10:52.040 I didn't know where that belonged to Oliver. 1:10:52.479 --> 1:10:56.000 His songs definitely didn't. It wasn't a clue. It wasn't 1:10:56.040 --> 1:10:59.760 a clue. No, I get it, I go. But like 1:10:59.880 --> 1:11:03.880 I always felt very alone in my like your music, 1:11:04.360 --> 1:11:04.760 in like. 1:11:04.680 --> 1:11:09.240 That crazy connection. I think, what's so great about this 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:12.599 time too? We grew up Like here we are talking 1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:15.519 about our family and we're being obviously you know, is 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:18.759 you want eloquent and elegant about how we talk about 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:21.400 how we grew up because we don't ever want to, 1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:24.680 you know, offend anybody or hurt anybody's feelings, and those 1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:27.040 things can be sensitive. But like we're living in a 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:30.439 time now where people feel much more open about being 1:11:30.479 --> 1:11:34.400 honest about where they come from and what that meant 1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:37.160 for them, how they reflect on it. And then as 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:40.800 an artist you don't have to just be one thing anymore. 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:44.800 You can go and have a creative idea that has 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:49.880 nothing to do with acting, and you can go connect 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:51.920 with nature and make something beautiful. 1:11:52.040 --> 1:11:54.479 And the hardest thing now is focus though, because we're 1:11:54.520 --> 1:11:59.160 all so distracted. Yeah, and you're already adhd to focus. 1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:00.720 Then something. 1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:07.519 I have I asked I've passed it on to my children, 1:12:07.640 --> 1:12:11.040 to particularly sailor and live. I asked the woman that 1:12:11.080 --> 1:12:14.720 they see, who's this incredible reading specialist, if she would 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:17.920 test me because I've found I've found so many loopholes 1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:22.320 and ways of memorizing my lines and seeing things differently, 1:12:22.720 --> 1:12:26.559 and but I would love to know, like all my 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:31.720 kids have like total diagnosis, and I want that. I 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:33.080 love you guys so much. 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:36.679 Let's do our last little thing that we do, which 1:12:36.720 --> 1:12:38.599 is we're going to do two questions. 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:41.839 First, do you guys get to see each other alone? 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:44.479 Not enough? It's so stupid because it is hard having 1:12:44.520 --> 1:12:45.400 this many kids. 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:47.519 Where like, yeah, I know, I mean so how often 1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:49.479 a year we just saw each other. 1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:53.200 Sailor's birthday and you do birthday parties or like Thanksgiving, 1:12:53.320 --> 1:12:56.400 she does a big shindig, so we drive up. I 1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:59.360 love where she lives, so I'm always like, can I 1:12:59.439 --> 1:13:01.800 come up? Was like, we need to more so. 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:08.160 Than the kids were up till like midnight, and it 1:13:08.320 --> 1:13:10.320 was and I am super relaxed, but I was like, 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:11.400 this is too much. 1:13:20.160 --> 1:13:23.400 Spoopy is so relaxed that when I'm sometimes when we're 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:26.559 like doing kids stuff together, she's so laid back and 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:31.639 you're such a good strict mama. I am so these moments, 1:13:31.680 --> 1:13:34.400 but the kids are like jumping and running and things. 1:13:34.160 --> 1:13:38.280 And I was like, I can't discipline her kids. And 1:13:39.680 --> 1:13:42.080 then I'm like when I'm like, we went to see 1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:45.400 Taylor Swift. That was so cut Ronnie and Lula. 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:48.720 But the thing is is for me then I'm sitting there, 1:13:48.760 --> 1:13:51.400 I'm like, I feel like my kids watch that and 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:55.040 they're like, you're the worst. 1:13:54.600 --> 1:13:58.639 Know me about me? Very was your mom very strict 1:13:58.640 --> 1:14:02.280 with you or very so? And then I don't think 1:14:02.280 --> 1:14:03.800 my mom was strict with me, but I was a 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:08.080 little bit scared of her. Yeah, my kids are definitely scared. 1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:11.840 Oh yeah, oh god, Okay, here's the question. 1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:17.479 The first part of the question, the two part question. 1:14:17.520 --> 1:14:19.400 First part of the question is if there's something that 1:14:19.479 --> 1:14:22.479 you wish you had more of with your of your sister, 1:14:22.640 --> 1:14:26.679 like sort of something you would emulate. What would that be? 1:14:27.120 --> 1:14:29.439 And then the second part of the question would be 1:14:29.800 --> 1:14:32.680 something that you wish that you could alleviate from your 1:14:32.720 --> 1:14:35.519 sister that you know that we would be you know, 1:14:35.840 --> 1:14:39.639 make her life just easier or you. 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:46.080 Know for me like live always knows, like the things 1:14:46.520 --> 1:14:50.960 like real estaps, the yeah, the real estate, the soaps, 1:14:51.040 --> 1:14:53.679 like every time she comes home for Christmas or something 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:57.160 like I kind of like what's in there and it's 1:14:57.200 --> 1:14:59.880 like that nutrient gena rainbaths. 1:15:00.120 --> 1:15:05.880 So that's from dad. Oh but yeah, that's and I 1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:09.320 was like, remember that ga like body oil. 1:15:10.000 --> 1:15:13.680 She always knows all the stuff, like the foods and 1:15:13.720 --> 1:15:17.639 the products and the like just everything. So I'm always 1:15:17.720 --> 1:15:21.639 like as a mom and a younger sister, I'm always 1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:22.760 like watching like when you used to. 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:25.320 But if I tell you you don't like it, you 1:15:25.360 --> 1:15:27.880 can reserve it. But if I tell her, she's kind 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:30.479 of acted because she'll send these like. 1:15:30.439 --> 1:15:32.400 Group texts and it's like get these night lights. And 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:34.519 so the first thing I do there straight to Amazon 1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:37.160 and I buy all the stuff or there was like spatulas, 1:15:37.200 --> 1:15:42.000 and I'm like, so she's always got like the she's 1:15:42.040 --> 1:15:45.040 always got the inn on, like the stuff that you know, 1:15:45.200 --> 1:15:47.320 like as a mom, you buy everything and then you 1:15:47.320 --> 1:15:49.559 realize nothing works and then like kids don't eat it. 1:15:49.640 --> 1:15:54.120 But she always just knows, and I wish I had that, 1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:55.639 So I just kind of like sit back. So every 1:15:55.640 --> 1:15:58.479 time I go to your house and like checking everything out. 1:15:58.880 --> 1:16:01.120 So that's like one of my favorite things about you 1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:04.320 as a mom, sister Mom, is that you just like 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:07.960 you just kind of beast through being a mom. Like 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:10.240 I know that you've had practice with like my own stuff, 1:16:10.280 --> 1:16:14.240 but like you just observe you know I would never 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:16.400 know to find the nutrigen of greenbath. And I know 1:16:16.439 --> 1:16:17.760 you take came from Dad, but. 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:23.080 Like everywhere I look and I like, I just collect, like, 1:16:23.160 --> 1:16:26.280 oh that smells good. That good, but it sounded good. 1:16:26.400 --> 1:16:27.160 I want to eat that. 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:31.080 You have to buy children's shampoo, right, and you have 1:16:31.120 --> 1:16:34.400 to get like kids shampoo. But she one time she 1:16:34.479 --> 1:16:36.800 had know you had like pantine and I was like, 1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:39.719 oh right, Panteene two in one for kids. That's so smart. 1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:40.800 You just knock it out. 1:16:41.320 --> 1:16:46.719 And that was a game changer for the pante Lula 1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:50.200 has this like crazy curly hair and she always winds 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:52.519 up in bed with me and the curls. 1:16:52.560 --> 1:16:55.479 It's so much hair. I'm like choking on it. But 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:59.040 now I just sniffed pant there. But it's like I 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:00.880 used to be a pante girl once, but now I 1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:02.840 have like I remember, I. 1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:08.000 Remember she's like on the trampoline. 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:11.439 It is, so what would you alleviate for your sister? 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:18.639 I mean, you know, we've all been single moms and 1:17:19.000 --> 1:17:21.800 moms with partners and then single moms and stuff. So 1:17:22.240 --> 1:17:25.040 as a mom who's been a single mom and now 1:17:25.040 --> 1:17:28.559 I have a partner, and I know that you're single momming. 1:17:29.040 --> 1:17:33.080 I always my wish is to alleviate some of the 1:17:33.120 --> 1:17:36.479 weight that you carry with three children, because now having two, 1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:37.920 I know how insane it is. 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:43.840 And I made to trust, trust, to love, trust, and 1:17:43.960 --> 1:17:45.679 just alleviate some trust. 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:47.280 You know. 1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:51.920 Okay, are you dating? 1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:56.800 I don't, I mean no, no, no, Well let me 1:17:56.840 --> 1:17:57.360 talk to Aaron. 1:17:57.400 --> 1:17:58.160 Maybe we're going to do. 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:01.040 Aaron's so cute. I've never dated. I don't think I've 1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:03.479 ever been on a date in my I can think 1:18:03.479 --> 1:18:07.040 of one person and I really didn't enjoy it. That's 1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:10.120 always been I wait for you, like Hi, I love you, 1:18:10.200 --> 1:18:11.639 we're together, like I. 1:18:11.600 --> 1:18:14.360 Just saw one of those of yours from like when 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:15.080 I was in New York. 1:18:15.920 --> 1:18:18.400 That's my wish for you though, because like I went 1:18:18.439 --> 1:18:21.840 through like so many duds and just bad boys. I 1:18:21.880 --> 1:18:22.439 can change you. 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:22.720 I can. 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.800 And I have like the most amazing guy now that 1:18:25.880 --> 1:18:28.280 I manifested. And we were friends for seventeen years and 1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:30.280 I just never saw it. And then all of a sudden, 1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:32.400 one day I said, I was like, if I'm going 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:34.400 to date again, you need to write me a ten 1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:36.439 thousand or a thousand word essay on how you won't 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:37.400 waste my time, and. 1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:39.760 He did it, he wrote me, and I don't care 1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:40.040 if he. 1:18:39.960 --> 1:18:43.479 Wants your chat GBT, but he wrote me about how 1:18:43.479 --> 1:18:45.200 he won't waste my time, and he does not waste 1:18:45.200 --> 1:18:47.720 my time now, and so I wish my wish for 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:52.679 you is and he's like a hot biker bearded thing, 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:55.280 and I just and I want that for her. I 1:18:55.320 --> 1:18:57.120 want her to like have a man. That's just I 1:18:57.160 --> 1:18:58.880 told my I told him, I said, if you want me, 1:18:58.960 --> 1:19:00.320 you need to bonk me over the He had like 1:19:00.320 --> 1:19:02.960 a caveman and dragged me into your cave because that's 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:04.880 the only way it's going to work. And I want 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:06.760 you to get bunked over the head. And just I 1:19:06.800 --> 1:19:09.519 want you to that's just like a man. 1:19:09.720 --> 1:19:14.599 I feel like relationship I've been mine is older soon 1:19:14.640 --> 1:19:16.080 and I were twin an older man. 1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:23.400 Yeah, you need to get heart like I still. 1:19:24.320 --> 1:19:26.960 I have like a love in my heart still and 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:30.960 it just takes me a long time to I'm still, you. 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:33.519 Need an older man to bonk you. So that's that's 1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:34.680 my manifestation for you. 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:37.360 A long time for me to. It does like if 1:19:37.400 --> 1:19:40.519 I love someone, I love them so much and it's forever. 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:43.240 I'm friends with every boyfriend. 1:19:43.280 --> 1:19:45.320 I'm not friends with any of them and I don't 1:19:45.360 --> 1:19:45.640 want to. 1:19:46.160 --> 1:19:49.479 But then, but then when it arrives you you shift 1:19:49.520 --> 1:19:50.120 pretty quick. 1:19:50.560 --> 1:20:02.800 Yes. I was like, right, okay, yeah, this is good. 1:20:04.439 --> 1:20:09.960 That sounds great. It'll come, it'll come. And what about 1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:12.200 you for your sisters? What was I was trying to. 1:20:12.160 --> 1:20:14.479 Remember the first question, what do you love that you 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:19.960 had more of a time energetically energetic her of her personality, 1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:20.760 of who she is. 1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:23.320 I would say the first thing that jumped it was 1:20:23.400 --> 1:20:25.880 just time for us to know each other more because 1:20:25.880 --> 1:20:28.760 we met in such an abrupt way, and it was 1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:32.280 always like we're siblings and we're sisters. But we've never 1:20:32.520 --> 1:20:35.519 I don't think we've ever. We have never gone away 1:20:35.680 --> 1:20:37.840 just the two of us and had like a sleepover 1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:41.240 weekend because there's always Chelsea there, child there, and my 1:20:41.320 --> 1:20:43.840 dad there. It's hard for us to just be. 1:20:44.320 --> 1:20:48.400 Together those like my gosh, places you go to, you know, 1:20:48.520 --> 1:20:49.920 because I don't want a colonic but. 1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:54.280 Coffee. 1:20:54.800 --> 1:20:55.240 I love that. 1:20:56.479 --> 1:20:59.040 But what is it about her who she is that 1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:01.040 it's something that you wish the same thing. 1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:05.000 I could alleviate her power and her strength, but I 1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:08.800 wish that she could surrender to trust sometimes that like 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:11.839 but that, but but I yeah, that that she's safe. 1:21:12.000 --> 1:21:16.680 We have a very safety and trust because it's that 1:21:16.920 --> 1:21:20.680 thing of it's not like if the person is going 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:22.960 to leave, it's like when are you leaving? Because I. 1:21:25.040 --> 1:21:33.240 Abandonment issues and that's a whole other episode. 1:21:35.040 --> 1:21:39.040 I love you guys. I know we don't get to 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:43.679 ask you any questions about your sippiness, but you guys talk. 1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:46.559 About it all the time, you know, yeah, yeah, our 1:21:46.640 --> 1:21:50.040 listeners know so much about your dad and oh. 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:52.479 Yeah, headline after headline. 1:21:52.600 --> 1:21:54.760 But I want you to talk a little bit before 1:21:54.760 --> 1:21:58.960 we go about what you're doing right now so people 1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:01.400 can get excited if you can talk about it. 1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:04.120 You haven't talked about it with anyone, but I totally can. 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:08.920 You can, okay talk about it secret person. It's so funny. 1:22:08.960 --> 1:22:10.840 I just you know what it is. It's that thing 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:14.840 of as an actor, you kind of don't you always 1:22:14.880 --> 1:22:16.840 feel like, oh, the movie might not come out, even 1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:18.720 if it's a huge lease, you don't talk about it 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:23.080 too it comes out yet. So I relocated to this 1:22:23.120 --> 1:22:29.240 little mountain town, and I always had these dreams of 1:22:30.080 --> 1:22:33.000 I've always been such a homebody and kind of creating 1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:34.840 things at home, but my whole life, I've had these 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:40.240 visions of like chickens and children and music and food. 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:45.719 And so I started a business that's called Pink Mountain, 1:22:46.760 --> 1:22:49.640 and I've been working really hard to kind of trademark 1:22:49.680 --> 1:22:53.040 everything and have everything. But I have olive oil, and 1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:56.160 olives were growing dropping into my living room and I 1:22:56.200 --> 1:23:02.320 started making olive oil and my favorite day cute. I'm 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:06.160 learning so much well in our Italian eness. Like everywhere 1:23:06.200 --> 1:23:08.800 I've gone my whole life, I bring all of I 1:23:08.840 --> 1:23:11.920 have to just cover everything and ali and salt or 1:23:11.920 --> 1:23:14.000 I'd rather not eat it. If I have to go 1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:16.599 somewhere and there's no olive oil, insult, I might not eat. 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:23.479 But I also adopted all these pixie tangerine trees, which 1:23:23.479 --> 1:23:26.880 are a special thing of oh Hi. And so I 1:23:28.080 --> 1:23:31.679 did kind of a slightly crazy thing. I covid happened. 1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:35.360 We relocated to this town where Mila was going to school, 1:23:35.360 --> 1:23:39.720 and I let go of all my representation, all my 1:23:39.800 --> 1:23:44.439 agents and managers and yeah, for three years, not because 1:23:44.479 --> 1:23:47.920 of anything other than I decided that I wanted to 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:52.320 allow myself to be able to think without influence from 1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:55.320 other people, because we're always so influenced. Like you'll read 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:57.360 a script and then you'll have one thought and then 1:23:57.360 --> 1:24:00.800 they're convincing you of something else. And I thought, what what? 1:24:01.040 --> 1:24:04.120 After being thirteen and starting, I just was like wanted 1:24:04.160 --> 1:24:07.439 to know what it was like to exist in something 1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:10.800 that I could create that was one hundred percent my 1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:14.559 painting or what was coming from my soul in my mind. 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:17.439 And so I kind of like cleared the space and 1:24:17.479 --> 1:24:19.640 then put a little team together to help me do that. 1:24:19.720 --> 1:24:21.760 And so I've been working towards that. It's been really 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:27.640 fun pressing local. Yes, well that is a whole journey. 1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:30.960 This week we drove three hours away to the most 1:24:31.000 --> 1:24:34.519 incredible place and I met this like wild, amazing mad 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:39.920 scientist man. It's really that part's really interesting is sort 1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:41.960 of studying. I love to study. I think that's my 1:24:42.040 --> 1:24:46.040 favorite thing about being an actor, is having not gone 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:48.720 to college and maybe not having the best education. I 1:24:48.840 --> 1:24:51.880 love learning things and in such an intense kind of 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:55.600 focused way. So I'm just enjoying nerding out on the 1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:58.000 passion of like farmer Live. 1:24:59.280 --> 1:25:00.800 I love Farmers Live. 1:25:00.920 --> 1:25:05.639 It's so fun. We have chicken and cats, and by 1:25:05.680 --> 1:25:09.679 the way, chickens are the best pets. The best themselves 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:11.719 to sleep at night, and they give you one egg 1:25:11.840 --> 1:25:15.799 every day. They're so cute. 1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:20.040 I loved my chickens for a long time, and then 1:25:20.120 --> 1:25:22.759 one lasted like eleven years. It was like almost a decade. 1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:26.080 Was crazy. People were like, chickens don't last all. I'm like, 1:25:26.120 --> 1:25:32.760 well she did. She did. Very sweet. They're little dinosaurs. Yeah. Well, 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:33.880 it's not as simple as it. 1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:37.920 So I'm not talking about the workload. 1:25:38.000 --> 1:25:43.000 I'm just saying nature working with you know, food and nourishment. 1:25:43.520 --> 1:25:45.879 I've learned a lot from that that when we moved 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:49.400 from during COVID, why I called it Pink Mountain is 1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:51.439 the town I live and has this thing called the 1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:54.600 Pink Moment and every day the mountain turns pink for 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:59.400 about three Yeah. But I had never grown up in 1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:02.960 the mountain, and there's something so powerful about whenever I 1:26:03.080 --> 1:26:05.599 was stressing out going through a lot of changes, and 1:26:05.680 --> 1:26:08.280 I would go outside and there was this like huge mountain, 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:12.680 and it just put everything in such perspective that all 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:14.960 my problems and we're going to come and go and 1:26:15.040 --> 1:26:16.679 the mountain's not going any We all. 1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:18.919 Feel about Colorado like growing up in Colorado. 1:26:18.960 --> 1:26:21.719 I think we all like weirdly just want to be there, 1:26:22.200 --> 1:26:25.280 but we're not, which is weird. And in the wisdom 1:26:25.320 --> 1:26:27.880 in the mountain, it's like thousands and thousands of years 1:26:27.920 --> 1:26:31.320 of it's just there. Yeah, and all these all these 1:26:31.360 --> 1:26:32.880 other things are going to come and go in the 1:26:32.880 --> 1:26:35.080 mountain's still going to be there. Well. I can't wait 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:37.479 for all of this thing to start happening and for 1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:38.800 it to come out. And people are going to love it. 1:26:38.800 --> 1:26:39.360 I just know it. 1:26:39.360 --> 1:26:44.120 Because you're working so passionately with it, and like even 1:26:44.240 --> 1:26:46.559 just the way it looks, and you're I didn't. 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:48.760 Even get to show you. I can't wait. I can't 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:50.640 wait to show you more. Other than that, I've been 1:26:50.680 --> 1:26:54.879 sending Christmas. I didn't send you any for Christmas. Every Christmas, 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:58.080 I've been sending marmalade and all of the oil. And 1:26:58.120 --> 1:27:03.840 I love you guys. You're so far, so much, so fine. Yeah, 1:27:03.840 --> 1:27:03.880 I