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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.

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Speaker 2: And what it's like to be siblings. We are sibling.

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Speaker 4: Railval No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.

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Speaker 5: That's good, Ollie.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about what's happening right now because like

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Speaker 3: one of my best friends.

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Speaker 5: In the world.

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Speaker 2: Been trying to get these girls on for years and.

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Speaker 6: Spoop, Spoop is she gets scaredoos live like for Live Tyler,

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Speaker 6: the Live Tyler, who is like I've known since I

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Speaker 6: was fift fourteen.

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Speaker 3: But we'll get into this because she's here and watching us,

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Speaker 3: and they're watching us.

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Speaker 2: They're watching.

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Speaker 3: And Mia Tyler, who, by the way, we didn't actually

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Speaker 3: grow up with as much as we did Live. We

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Speaker 3: just met as adults. And I think you're meeting her

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Speaker 3: for the first time today.

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Speaker 2: I think i've met you before party. Yeah, which one

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Speaker 2: I've met right for sure?

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Speaker 1: Your birthday?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, stop writers, But it was a leading Yeah, it

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Speaker 7: was one of those yeah, twenty years ago.

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Speaker 5: Because I can see his face, I.

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Speaker 1: Know I have been told by multiple people for years

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Speaker 1: that you and I should be friends really because we

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Speaker 1: are similar in humor and sibling wise eight more, not

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Speaker 1: in like a just as like a friendship thing, but

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Speaker 1: like everybody's like, you need to meet him.

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Speaker 5: Oh all right.

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Speaker 1: So when I saw you at the birthday, I was like,

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Speaker 1: and then it was so fleeting. So now here we are.

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Speaker 5: You guys, you will welcome to our podcast. Thank you

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Speaker 5: so much you're here. I can't believe it did come

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Speaker 5: from it came from so we Well, first of all,

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Speaker 5: we have known each other since we were six. Yes,

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Speaker 5: because I met you were dating. She was swooping Alex's Alex.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to talk about Alex.

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Speaker 3: I came talking about, but I know all your spoopies.

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Speaker 5: And I came. I was sixteen. I came to l A.

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Speaker 5: I was doing a movie, staying with Susan and Peter,

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Speaker 5: my god parents, and their daughter Katie Hoffman was friends somehow,

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Speaker 5: So somehow we all went out one night, a whole

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Speaker 5: group of us, and over weeks that somehow we ended

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Speaker 5: up at your house. Yeah, at our parents' house. I

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Speaker 5: really remember. I remember you. I'll never forget it. I

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Speaker 5: tell you.

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Speaker 3: I love telling this story because I'm meeting liv Tyler

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Speaker 3: and for me, you know, a girl in high school.

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Speaker 3: I was at maybe in ninth grade, and it was

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Speaker 3: like v Live Tyler, you know, it was like beauty

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Speaker 3: was ow, you're a little bit older.

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Speaker 5: Older, You're a little bit older. You're a little bit older.

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Speaker 5: I remember, Yeah, I am how old are you? I'm

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Speaker 5: seventy seven, I'm eighty six. I am seventy six older.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm seventy the old.

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Speaker 3: So so I live walks in and she's in this tiny,

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Speaker 3: like adorable baby doll dress with I remember that with

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Speaker 3: never forget it because it was also after you had

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Speaker 3: done Crazy the video. So for me, I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, what is she doing in our house?

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Speaker 5: We were school we were all in high school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I was acting really cool and then

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Speaker 3: and then and that was it.

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Speaker 5: And then there's ever your bedroom. I remember you came

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Speaker 5: into my bedroom. I forget because I got like, like

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Speaker 5: you still do I could see you sitting there.

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Speaker 3: And then I remember driving to breakfast. We went to

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Speaker 3: Patrick's Roadhouse.

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Speaker 5: Which is no longer over at your house. Did I

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Speaker 5: sleep over? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But there's kinds of weird thing.

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Speaker 5: Now at this point I had we were in. I

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Speaker 5: forget what car we were in, but I remember, yes,

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Speaker 5: we went in.

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Speaker 3: Your song was my side took me but just two

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Speaker 3: a little bit older. So this was like another another

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Speaker 3: visit and I'll never forget. I had my SOB and

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Speaker 3: Shpoop Live was like, you know, let's go get breakfast.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, yeah, let's go get breakfast. And

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Speaker 3: and and I was like, we go to Patrick Shorthouse

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Speaker 3: and we got in the car and Janey got a gun,

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Speaker 3: came on and you blast it and I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is this is so crazy.

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Speaker 8: It's like Overboard coming on. Everyone sit down watching Overboard.

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Speaker 5: Which.

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Speaker 1: Such a great movie, but it's my favorite movie. It's

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Speaker 1: my favorite movie. Can number one.

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Speaker 8: We'll get back to your story and Seid, let me pitch.

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Speaker 8: Can I pitch you overboard in today's world to see

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Speaker 8: if this was flying? Okay, here's the overboard pitch. We

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Speaker 8: have a really rich woman who's on the I who

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Speaker 8: comes into this little harbor and this sort of carpenter guy.

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Speaker 8: She's a total bitch, horrible thing. She falls overboard. Now

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Speaker 8: she's brought in as amnesia. The carpenter who she's a

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Speaker 8: dick to decides to kidnap her because if you think

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Speaker 8: about what he did, he kidnapped mother, essentially.

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Speaker 5: That is what he does. But it's hilarious recently to

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Speaker 5: the scene where she's sitting and all the kids are

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Speaker 5: trying to figure it out, and he's telling her the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like and he's like, you know, try

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Speaker 3: and she's like, you got to.

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Speaker 2: Remember this one.

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Speaker 6: Roy is now the dog's name.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, now we have a dog cry.

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Speaker 2: Every time window.

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Speaker 3: Oh, forget it, but the necklace.

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Speaker 2: Mom's got the necklace. I'm still I.

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Speaker 5: Cry when it's over.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, what could I give you that you

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Speaker 5: Jenne's got a guy.

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Speaker 3: We are driving down and I remember where we were,

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Speaker 3: right at Lemisa and you know, near Chautauqua, and we

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Speaker 5: I remember it's one of those core memories.

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Speaker 3: I will never forget your exuberance, like your life force

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Speaker 3: of like you know, I just will never forget it.

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Speaker 5: Yoh, yeah, you were like, who was the top down?

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Speaker 5: The top was down?

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Speaker 3: But it was also that thing like we were so

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Speaker 5: We were just like ready, you know, and you really

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Speaker 5: wanted to be an actress at that time. And I remember,

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Speaker 5: and your mom wouldn't let you. She wouldn't. She was like,

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Speaker 5: you're finishing high school and you had your SOB and

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Speaker 5: you could drive. And I was in your LA and

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Speaker 5: And I'd already started working and I would have loved

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Speaker 5: to have been in your shoes.

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Speaker 1: I am kind of at home.

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Speaker 8: How old were you when we were all hanging out,

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Speaker 8: even without Kate? When you were dating sixteen? That was sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Now you were older, you were seventeen, and.

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Speaker 2: Was I still were still in high school?

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Speaker 5: Were totally still in high school? Because when the Aerosmith

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Speaker 1: I was fifteen when that came out, so and you're

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Speaker 1: eighteen months older. So yeah, because it used to come

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Speaker 1: done in the morning, idiot, No, you're nineteen for that,

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Speaker 1: I'd done, I believe a couple like, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 5: Because I turned eighteen when I did, right, So I

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Speaker 5: was sixteen or seventeen? Yeah, I turned eighteen that song,

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Speaker 5: But when the video used to come on, I used

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Speaker 5: to get up. My alarm would go off. Like any

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Speaker 5: But it was on the countdown for that whole year.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, oh yeah, it was. It was huge.

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Speaker 2: Was that your first gig?

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Speaker 5: No, My friend James Mangold discovered me.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 5: I was in his first movie called Heavy. The first

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Speaker 5: movie I ever did was called Silent Fall. I killed

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Speaker 5: my Silent was the Killer with Bruce Bruce Bears for

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Speaker 5: driving Miss Daisy. Right then I was like thirteen fifteen.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's all a blur, but Spoops that

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Speaker 5: comes from that time we were in high school and

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Speaker 5: for some reason, I don't know why you used to

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Speaker 5: call me spoops poops. It came from Briston. Well it

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Speaker 3: No, we used to do this thing where we would

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Speaker 3: basically like her dad does this thing. He's always like

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Speaker 5: And yeah, he's like yow. And then we would sometime.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what happened, but we would be singing

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Speaker 3: a song would be like big goes well, spooby amount

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you just like yes, start singing yes and.

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Speaker 3: Just do the song like that, and then she just

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Speaker 3: But then we'll call each other and be like poopy.

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Speaker 3: But then I call you shoops and you call me poopy.

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Speaker 3: It's not actually poop related, but you don't talk about.

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Speaker 5: But you too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like poop. We called her a poop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's an endearment and poop poop, but.

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Speaker 5: You've always pinched poopy poop and always sing songs boo poop.

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Speaker 5: Even even even Ronnie the other day was like we

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Speaker 3: And then and then Ronnie the other day, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Live is coming, and.

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Speaker 1: She's like.

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Speaker 5: And I was like spoopy and She's like, oh, like

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Speaker 5: then after that, of course.

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Speaker 3: You went to college and we thrived in our professional life.

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Speaker 5: Where did you go to college?

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Speaker 2: Left?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you went to college. We just from college.

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Speaker 2: We just went a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: We went into them. Then we were always together. So

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Speaker 3: like then like we went.

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Speaker 2: I remember some reason, I feel like I knew it

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Speaker 2: lived before you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you did.

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Speaker 2: If it was for me, then you guys.

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Speaker 5: Would we wouldn't have had that.

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Speaker 3: So then I go to New York and we're obviously

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Speaker 3: both working and we're we went to a couple of

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Speaker 3: and we were all so young and hanging out. But

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Speaker 3: then Spoop and I had babies young, so then you're.

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Speaker 5: First you had Rider when you were twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I had Rider, and then you had Myla and they

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Speaker 5: Well, we didn't have eight each other. Very interesting.

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Speaker 1: We didn't meet until like around like eight and ten,

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Speaker 5: And I think she was.

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Speaker 5: live with my grandmother and my aunt and my uncle

443
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 5: and cousins in Maine. So I was kind of my

444
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 5: mom was in and out. Oh God, this gets so complicated.

445
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:56,239
Speaker 5: Before before that show, she does I know you. So

446
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 5: there's pieces in between. But Steven went to reab came

447
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 5: out part of his twelve Steps. He and Teresa went together.

448
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 5: He called my mom that they started speaking again and

449
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: arranged to meet in Boston at one of Todd's shows,

450
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 5: which was probably not I think it was maybe my

451
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 5: mom's way of thinking, Oh, Stephen just showed up and

452
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: it was so fun. But it was very painful for

453
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 5: Todd that part, I think, because I met Stephen that

454
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 5: night and then so this was throughout the course of

455
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: that year, he was around more. I had no idea

456
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: who he was other than I just thought he was fabulous.

457
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 5: And so that particular night that she's talking about, Guns n'

458
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 5: Roses were opening for Aerosmith. It was the beginning of

459
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: their Welcome to the Jungle. Like incredible moment, and we

460
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 5: drove the gig I remember this, which is sort of

461
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 5: at a place called Great Woods, which I don't know

462
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: if that.

463
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: Was me emotional.

464
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: There's so many levels to this. So emotional right now,

465
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: so we oh, babes, don't make me come over there

466
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: and hug you.

467
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: I need to get emotional.

468
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: I just know this story.

469
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: Let's talk about anyway, keep going.

470
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 5: So we my mom was like, we're going to this show,

471
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: and we drove from Portland, Maine, where we lived, to

472
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: Great Woods, which is in New England somewhere, and it

473
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: was an outdoor sort of those little outdoor amphitheater venues,

474
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 5: and we were a little bit late, so normally we

475
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 5: would have just gone backstage or whatever with friends and

476
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 5: for some so we got tickets and we went to

477
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 5: the audience and we were sitting standing in the you

478
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: know somewhere, and Guns and Roses was playing and I

479
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: was so e seted because I just like loved Guns

480
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: and Roses. And on the side of the stage was

481
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: this one because standing there.

482
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Actual used to dedicate Sweet Child of Mind to me

483
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: like every tour, and he'd like bring me out on

484
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: stage and be like.

485
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 5: This is again to you, and I'd like. I just

486
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: remember standing there watching them play, looking and seeing this

487
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: girl who looked exactly like me, Like we literally had

488
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 5: the same outfit on Oh my god. We had both

489
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 5: had perms like spiral perms, pink fro races. We were

490
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 5: both wearing a Aerosmith concert T shirt with black leggings

491
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 5: and Reebok high tip go sneakers. I looked and I

492
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 5: was like, wait, that's me. It was really weird. I

493
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: was literally like looking in the mirror seeing you're double.

494
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 5: I looked at my mom and I was like mom,

495
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: and she just started crying. My mom just like Bald

496
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 5: And I was like, is Stephen my dad? And she

497
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: just like Bursted. She was just like good. And then

498
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 5: she took me to a bench and we sat on

499
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: a bench at this like outdoor amphitheater, and she told

500
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 5: me the whole story in the most sincere, beautiful way,

501
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 5: like within, the most loving, like loving version about Todd,

502
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 5: loving version, about Steven, loving version, about the family that

503
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 5: had supported us through it all, and I just was

504
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 5: there with it. And then we went backstage after the show,

505
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: and then there was me and we met for the

506
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: first time, and I remember someone asking if we were

507
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: sisters and I didn't, but we but we didn't know.

508
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: But then that night, so I went home that night,

509
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: so I took a car and I'm like, they just

510
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: sent a car to bring me and take me back.

511
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: So I remember getting home and it was really late,

512
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: and I remember coming back and I was like, I

513
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: met this girl and she was so great blah blah,

514
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: and her mom beb me and she was like, what

515
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: was her name? And she was like and I was like,

516
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: her name, her name was liv and she was like, no,

517
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: it's not. Her name's Amy. And I was like, what

518
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: are you talking about. She goes, and that's your sisters

519
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: and others. She goes, she goes, she was her mom's

520
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: name was Bebie and then her name's Amy and I

521
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: was like, no, it was Live and she's like, that's

522
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: your sister. And that's how I found out And just

523
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: in this moment, and then I just had to like

524
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: go back into my room and put nick at night

525
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: on and just go back to sleep. But then like

526
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: two years later, I still have. You know, it's funny,

527
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the timeline, but I still have. You

528
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: started sending me postcards and like, and I just found

529
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: one recently and it was just.

530
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: Like, you know, we're like eleven years old and you're

531
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: just like And then we met up in New York,

532
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: New York, Liz Darreinger's house, who had entered the one

533
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 5: that from Oh my gosh, and I will never forget.

534
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 5: We were sitting playing and my mom and Liz and

535
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 5: her mother, Serrenda were sitting and they were you know,

536
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 5: like talking, and then they looked at us and wait, like, okay,

537
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 5: it's okay, you can talk about it now.

538
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: No, that is not what happened, I remember.

539
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 5: And then we looked and then we went there. We

540
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 5: have this all the time with siblings, and there's always

541
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 5: different person because she was older. All the time, she

542
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 5: was older.

543
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, I was like, oh, she's

544
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: so cool. But I already known. I knew that she

545
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: was my sister, but I didn't think she knew. And

546
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: and we both knew but didn't know the other knew.

547
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: But my mom started letting me go out with you

548
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: and Beebie and we would walk around. And I remember

549
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: this because your mom would always be like, if you

550
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: want to have a tight butt, you gotta squeeze your

551
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: butt as you walk and like thirteen squeeze around New

552
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: York City, and then we went back to your apartment. Yeah,

553
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: it was like on eighteenth Street or something, I don't

554
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: remember where it was, and my mom had toxture that

555
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: dare My mom had to come pick me up. And

556
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: I just remember like the whole day. I was like

557
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I remember even just being on like fourteenth Street walking

558
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: and wanting to blurt it out, and I had to

559
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: really like bite my tongue. And so we went back

560
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: to your house and we were I was in your

561
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: room by myself. My mom had showed up, and you

562
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: were in the living room with them, and that's when

563
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: they said, okay, you guys can talk about it, and

564
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: you came flying into the You came flying into the

565
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: room and you were like you know, and I was

566
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: like you know, and and then we just sat there

567
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: and hugged. And then we've been sisters ever since.

568
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: I was just getting anyone.

569
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: Always chokes me up the like you know, and like

570
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: it was just we just saw I think we sat

571
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: there and cried and like, and then we had so

572
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: much stuff in common.

573
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: Though, hugging each other.

574
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: And lipstick. You can't tell the difference. I'll try and

575
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: find it.

576
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 8: But when did you get introduced to your father as

577
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 8: your father? I mean the recognition happened.

578
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: There your sort of similarly like oh that what that

579
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 5: I was allowed to talk about.

580
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 8: It your stage and you're like, is that my dad?

581
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 8: And she's like, basically, yeah.

582
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

583
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have talked about it with him. Did he know?

584
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 5: He know that you were? He did know? Yeah, Okay,

585
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 5: I think that. I think that even after I was born,

586
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 5: they saw each other, which probably gets into tricky territory

587
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 5: because you would have well, I don't know.

588
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: A little mom little.

589
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 9: And then.

590
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: Todd and my mom weren't together. I think they tried

591
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: to be together for about two weeks and that didn't

592
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 5: go well.

593
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: Did you think Todd was your father? Yes?

594
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: I was raised, Yeah, because for a long time. Yeah,

595
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: that's how I met you.

596
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 5: And was that so hard for him? I think so hard.

597
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 5: I think it's probably still very hard and painful. And

598
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 5: I don't speak to him, and I love him and

599
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 5: I have brothers from him, and I had a whole

600
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 5: family with them, but there was so much I was

601
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 5: a kid, so it was really hard because he was

602
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: mad at my mom and then suddenly Stephen was there

603
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: and we did a praternity test and it was positive,

604
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: and so we moved to New York. I think I

605
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 5: was twelve, eleven or twelve, Like I remember getting my

606
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 5: jurneyest summer and like moving.

607
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: I remember the test. You were a little bit older

608
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: because I was like, why are they doing that? Like

609
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: it's obvious we all know.

610
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 5: Oh, but then that wasn't until after that that we

611
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 5: were allowed to discuss it. So I knew that. I

612
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 5: think I knew, but it wasn't until after I remember

613
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 5: being in New York, very close to where all my

614
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 5: children were born, having the blood test and it being positive,

615
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 5: and then seeing Steven and my mom. I was all

616
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 5: seeing each other together during that time.

617
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: Like, now are those memories like obviously, you know you

618
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: have different perceptions of little those little sort of moments,

619
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: but like, does it feel like that was the beginning

620
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: of your childhood almost or do you still have memories

621
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: of being younger and just with your mom and Todd They.

622
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 5: Weren't together my mom and Todd. Todd, Yeah, they didn't

623
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: make it together. Oh okay, he took he took care

624
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: of me as like he was dad who he was

625
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 5: always on tour too and traveling. He had another partner

626
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: and two boys, so I would go and visit them

627
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: and go on trips with them.

628
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: I lived in Maine with my my uncle, my mom,

629
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: and sometimes with my grandma.

630
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 5: I was kind of raised by a little mix of

631
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: bush poopy. What was your feeling like. Did you feel

632
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 5: like you were betrayed that time or did you feel

633
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 5: just an excitement that you actually felt like now you

634
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 5: knew what your life really was like? What was the

635
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: honest I felt it was quite like sort of mature.

636
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 5: It was very weird. I felt so much love and

637
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: so much I think because I had already lived with

638
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: Annie and Teddy and my my family in Maine. I'd

639
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 5: already lived with my grandmother, I'd already lived with my mom.

640
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 5: I was kind of used to I was, I'm such

641
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 5: a cancer crab. I'm very adaptable. I was able to

642
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 5: like soak up the love that I could. And everybody

643
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 5: was so different. So I remember to say.

644
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: The Tyler, well, you know, our real last name's Tolrico.

645
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 5: So the tolergo, we're Collabrian.

646
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: We're very like my dad's I was very Italian, very eclectic,

647
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: very like Gypsy, like gnome, you know, like all the

648
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: trees have faces in them at our house, but like

649
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: there was just like this weird, like not weird, but

650
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: like eclectic gypsy vibe and that's why like we always

651
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: like gypsy, you know. But like, so, did you did

652
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: you feel like once you like realized all of us

653
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: were your family, that you felt like, oh right, I

654
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: belong here, like because you're very much even though that's

655
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: not your last name, but like gipsy teller very much.

656
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 5: I'm going to start checking into anybody. The queen of

657
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 5: it was like layers. The first the first wave was shock.

658
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 5: After that concert, we went home and my mom had

659
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 5: a shaved in front of the window, and I remember

660
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 5: sitting there for what felt like three days but it

661
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 5: was probably three hours, and just basically coming to this

662
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 5: conclusion at the end of like whoa, I have two

663
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: dads and all this love and like maybe there'll be

664
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 5: two Christmases. I just was really excited about it because

665
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: they're all so different and so lovely.

666
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 8: Was there a point where as you get older, we're like, Okay,

667
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 8: now I think I need therapy so much. I'm saying,

668
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 8: there is that moment where it's like, oh and then

669
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 8: you get older, you mature, and things start to happen,

670
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 8: your life starts to formulate, and then you're like, wait,

671
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 8: I need to deal with this shit.

672
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 5: I think I've always been dealing with it. But for me,

673
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 5: I'm like, what's also just part of our job as actors? Right,

674
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 5: Like I started acting at thirteen or fourteen. It's like

675
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 5: the first thing you're doing is looking at the text

676
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 5: and like, well, what do you really mean by that?

677
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: And what's going on underneath that? And having to dig

678
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: into those places of your childhood and other experiences that

679
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 5: human behaviors is the core of what do we do?

680
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 5: How did you feel that that? I always think more

681
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: about what that must have felt like for you, because

682
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 5: it was.

683
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Like, well, I had always wanted I grew up an

684
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: only child at first because my little sister wasn't born

685
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: until I was nine, Chelsea, I had wanted siblings. I

686
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: just I wanted siblings. I would stare and like I

687
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: just squeeze my body as hard as I could, thinking

688
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: that that was like reaching whatever would bring me siblings,

689
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: and I would just like and pray for that. And

690
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: then and there.

691
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: Sister.

692
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I had both a little sister and an older sister,

693
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: and it was it.

694
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 5: Was Chelsea so fabulous too. I call her, I call

695
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: her and Ta's Cheech and Chong because they were so

696
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: but she's a mom with kids now and so but

697
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: I still call her Cheech but she is so fabulous.

698
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: So I was just excited to have siblings, like, well, yeah,

699
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: I was just all of a sudden the middle child.

700
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 8: And it was great once you guys met, though, you know,

701
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 8: how did that relationship sort of continue?

702
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: You were both in were you both in New York?

703
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: I moved here for sixth grade and you were in

704
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: seventh or eighth grade.

705
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 5: We lived such different lives. School to the Upper east Side.

706
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: Surrender was fabulous. My mom was like Lower east Side queen.

707
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: But she had this big.

708
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: Dream of being She wanted to be this, you know,

709
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: wrapped in furs walking around the very sophisticated. So she

710
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: dragged us up to eighty second in Madison, and she.

711
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 5: Was really mad at our. Surrenda was very mad at she.

712
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 5: Steven was very yes, because he had kind of left

713
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 5: her in New Hampshire. He had taken her from her

714
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: life in New York and then had a baby and

715
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 5: then kind of like left her. Sorry, dadhre alone with

716
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 5: me without family and for money or anywhereas like I

717
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: had grandmother and uncle and a lot of supports me.

718
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: You were alone a lot with your mom. Oh god,

719
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 5: no money. Yeah, because he was a.

720
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Heroin aount of money time that I think everybody always

721
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: thinks that too, Like we grew up so rich and

722
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: I was like we I mean, I was a toys

723
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: for Tot's kid for most of my childhood, getting like

724
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: the local motorcycle crew would come and bring me like

725
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: used toys for Christmas.

726
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: Asmith so many.

727
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: Because there was like the seventies time, then there was

728
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: like skid row time they lost everything, and then I

729
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 5: think it was the nineties, the nineties when it was

730
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: like sort of the videos that I was Living on

731
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 5: the Edge. I was like mart with your yeah right,

732
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 5: which is so cute.

733
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 6: I know.

734
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: They did he wrote pink I love that I was on.

735
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: I sang on pink you did yeah.

736
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: Uncle, I think Uncle Mark's a writer on that one

737
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: did going on Edge.

738
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 5: Yes, By the way, listen to Living on the Edge.

739
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 5: Drive home and listen. Listen to the words It's so

740
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 5: right now, it's so you're like, wait, this needs to

741
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 5: come out. The world.

742
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: They were up in the hills. They were recording up

743
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: in the hills and the LA riots started, So they

744
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: were watching the LA riots and that's where those lyrics

745
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: came from.

746
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 5: Wow.

747
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: And that's why it's called living on the edge because

748
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: they were on the edge of watching.

749
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 8: But how does your relationship progress two different moms? You know,

750
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 8: you guys were you found your you found your sisterhood.

751
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 8: You're essentially in love.

752
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: And it's like, okay, because because of our age difference too,

753
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, I want to know my dad.

754
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 5: We would go visit and she would hang out with

755
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: Chelsea and Tag and they were like a little bit

756
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 5: younger and play, and then I was just that little

757
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 5: bit older. But through period that I would just wanted

758
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: to hang out with my dad, So I'd stay up

759
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: all night but his dressing room talking that is.

760
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: And I don't care whose feelings I heard by saying

761
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: this is our stepmom was very territorial with our little

762
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: brother and sister and dad, and so any slight thing

763
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: that would take him away from her and her family,

764
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: she would kind of push us out. And so I

765
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: was like, I was worried, and I'm being honest. I

766
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever told you this. I was worried

767
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: because you came in and you just wanted to be

768
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: around Dad, and like, of course, what child wouldn't And

769
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: she said I was a.

770
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 5: Little bit more of a teenager. I was like becoming

771
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 5: a woman. Yeah, So I was like, yeah, what have

772
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't want to like build a board,

773
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 5: but I was like, whoa, I'm going to go into

774
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: my dad's like dressing room.

775
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: He'd just tell stories.

776
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 5: And it was just that we were at that that.

777
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: Eighteen she was going to push us out, so I

778
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: was I started acting like I don't care about Dad,

779
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: because I really did. I wanted like my little sisters.

780
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: She's my best friend. And the minute she was born,

781
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: I was like hooray, like I remember the day she

782
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: was born, and like pacing around the house when they

783
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: were going to bring her home because like I was

784
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: just like I have a best friend. But I was

785
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: so afraid that Teresa was going to push us away

786
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: because you were trying to get to Dad, so that

787
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: I started ignoring him and I would go bline it

788
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: for the little brother and sister.

789
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 5: It's so interesting because it worked.

790
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: Out because she got to spend all the time with him,

791
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: and then it wasn't you guys threatening to Teresa because

792
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: I was with the kids.

793
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: But the dynamic is fascinating because it's three different moms,

794
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 3: but you're the child of each other, but you're still

795
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: the middle child. Oh yeah, And what you're explaining is

796
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 3: like pure, it feels like total middle child feeling of.

797
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: Like we are very much like She's definitely like the adult.

798
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: Even though she came in later, she still has always

799
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: stepped up and been like leader for everything the mom

800
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: just because.

801
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 5: I went first with a baby's first house.

802
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: So Chelsea and I technically are the middle children. And

803
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: then there's our little brother, who's just the only boy

804
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: and who is just but he is the opposite of

805
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: Gypsy Tolerico. He's a construction worker and he's married with

806
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: two kids and lives in the woods and goes hunting

807
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with La or anything.

808
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: This is a really interesting He's the best dad in

809
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 5: the West, we all, even though Steven Tyler is our dad.

810
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 5: And the story that the press always tells in every

811
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: article ever is that like we grew up on tour

812
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: and this right, wild crazy I grew up in Maine

813
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 5: with my family. She grew up in New Hampshire and

814
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: Chelsea and Taj grew up in Marshfield, Massachusetts, so we

815
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 5: all grew up in this nowhere near Hollywood. I don't

816
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 5: think I came to LA until I probably around meeting you.

817
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: Then we were in New York a little bit. But

818
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 5: it's very interesting because it's a through line for us

819
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 5: in the way we are as parents and the way

820
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: we raise our kids. Yeah, Like I live in the

821
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: mountains in the middle of nowhere, and I'm raising my kids.

822
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 5: So out of all of that, Mia always has been

823
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 5: very much not a part of.

824
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the entertainment.

825
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 5: Lage are doing the same.

826
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Yea, they lives in Massachusetts.

827
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: The fact that your dad is who he is.

828
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 8: At what point did that sort of come into play

829
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 8: with you.

830
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: Guys as adults teenagers? You know what I mean? Was it?

831
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Well, it was more for you because you were being

832
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: an entertainer and you were you wanted that world. I

833
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with. My mom was trying to

834
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: force me to be an actress. I had to do

835
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: like auditions and stuff, and I hated it me too.

836
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't want anything.

837
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: To do with that did you embrace I did you

838
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: want to sort of you know, do I moved to New.

839
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 5: York that summer I was twelve. I loved the freedom

840
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 5: of walking around New York. But I was looked like

841
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: such a woman. I was just a little girl, but

842
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 5: I was this tall and this weight and high. I

843
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 5: was like, but then I started. I think my story

844
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 5: is that paul my mom was very close to Ric

845
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 5: Okaysik from the Cars, and Paulinaporskov his wife, and actually

846
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 5: they took pictures of me, and that sort of started

847
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 5: my modeling career.

848
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: Was that Paulina on the beach or something.

849
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 5: Some of them were, yeah, really pretty.

850
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: I remember those because we had I don't know why

851
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: we had copies of those. There was like one on

852
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: the fridge.

853
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 5: So I started modeling. I was in high school and

854
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 5: I got asked to go on a couple of auditions,

855
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: which I was terrified to do because, as you know,

856
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 5: I'm outrageously shy, and but it was just it was

857
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: so that was a strange thing because it was definitely

858
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 5: something my mom put, not pushed me into. She just

859
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 5: was like, you're doing this, and I was terrified, but

860
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 5: I did. And then she got no, mom, no exactly,

861
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 5: which is so funny because she used to always say.

862
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: She used to always say when I was little that

863
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 5: I was going to be an actress when I grew up,

864
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: and I didn't know what she was talking about. But

865
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 5: like you, I was always singing, always singing around the

866
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: house in the back of the car, just with like

867
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 5: every hounds of my heart.

868
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: You also wanted to be a kid, though, because I

869
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: remember like your mom pushing you to do auditions and stuff,

870
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: and you like, we're allowed to eat cookies and stuff.

871
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: And then we would go because back then in the nineties,

872
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: you could just run around New York City being little

873
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: girls and with no parents, and so we would go

874
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: to the store.

875
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 5: We'd have like.

876
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: Before that when we were like so fun club and

877
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: we would get like five bucks each and we would

878
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: go to the store, remember that time, we'd find like

879
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: a stoop and we would buy like four bags of

880
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: chips and some like yeah I wasn't.

881
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 5: Allowed to We would yeah I got a Kudos bar

882
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 5: in my lunch box. When I would go over to friends, Yeah,

883
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 5: I would go over to a friend's house and be like.

884
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 8: What I remember, I remember live coming into my life

885
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 8: and thinking well, she's a year younger, but she is

886
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 8: so much older than me. It felt like I was

887
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 8: very sophisticated, and you know, I was like sophistic this

888
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 8: older woman, even though you were younger in New York

889
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 8: have been rolling blunts and I was like, damn, she's

890
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 8: rolling blunts and she's like bom puffing, and I'm like.

891
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: Whoa who. I feel like it's like I never because

892
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 5: you and I never smoked.

893
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: Now, I feel like everyone knows, like your dad obviously,

894
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: but then when you really think about your guys as moms,

895
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 3: you know, when you think about the life they had,

896
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 3: both of them. I remember the one of the first

897
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: times I met Beebie was we were out about New

898
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: York and we were super young.

899
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: I think even like.

900
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 3: I think I was like twenty, you know, I don't

901
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: even think I was twenty one yet before Chris and

902
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: she had a young boyfriend. I don't know if it's

903
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: still who she's with, no coyote husband.

904
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: It was her.

905
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: He was died here died.

906
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: And then we went to this like c Love was

907
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 3: he playing and she was on stage singing, oh wow yeah.

908
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 5: And my mom, by the way, was in the most

909
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: incredible bit growing up in Portland, Maine. My mom was

910
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: in the best band called the Gargoyles.

911
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: But she had talk about talk about presence like Beebe

912
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: was like, I mean a star in her own the

913
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 3: way you know, and the way she saw herself too, even.

914
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 5: As much as you know, it's just she just is

915
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: full of life.

916
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: Feels like like, so you had both of your parents,

917
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: even though your mom isn't as well known.

918
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 5: And that made me very not yet would you wouldn't

919
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: call me shy, no, but but I have.

920
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

921
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 5: It's like if I'm at home with you, I think

922
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 5: that's it's like I'm I can be yes, but I

923
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 5: tend to on that step. I think their behaviors or

924
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 5: they're just like the tad dancing wild energy. That's what

925
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 5: lived like.

926
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: Live was probably like like going like okay, like like

927
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: you know, it was just like constantly.

928
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: And then I had my grandmother who is an etiquette

929
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 5: like had worked in Washington and the government and was

930
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: like focusing on teaching etiquette still to day she's ninety five.

931
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 5: I was just with her all last week. And my

932
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 5: family in Maine. I had like a lot of different.

933
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: But you were creative side, like your mom and dad

934
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: and that sort of creative energy is so intense, and

935
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: I just think it's amazing that you came out of

936
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: that as as centered as you are.

937
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 5: Like I always say, you know, that's a recipe for

938
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 5: like a wild child.

939
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you And then it gets I.

940
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: Think, I'm on my grand my auntie my and I

941
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 5: know it's so weird to talk about astrology and stuff

942
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: like that, but I'm so cancerian. I'm a double cancer

943
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 5: and my other thing is in capric I'm like a

944
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 5: cancer with cancer rising cancer. It's a full moon you

945
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 5: have to do, and she does the best full ceremonies ever,

946
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 5: But I very much okay, I don't want to do

947
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 5: a full mom.

948
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm a virgo.

949
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 5: Virgos don't do full are you talking about? Virgos are

950
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 5: the most like moon virgos?

951
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: I was actually my son was born on a full moon.

952
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: Really do you Okay? So when the full moon comes

953
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: a couple of days before and after, are you just bonkers?

954
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like I'm bonkers.

955
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: You're actually quiet right now, which makes me think you're

956
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: thinking about something else.

957
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 8: Because usually our podcasts are it's a lot of energy,

958
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 8: and it's funny in this but hearing these stories is

959
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 8: just so amazing. And I've known you for so long

960
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 8: and of course you transitively, you know, but it's just

961
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 8: it's interesting, it's amazing.

962
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say, then your mom, who

963
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: was like this iconic, you know, also pretty.

964
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: Wild, she was more reserved though, she was more like you.

965
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: She was very like, kind of shy and prude and

966
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: just kind of like, now, I don't mean that you're prude,

967
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: but she was just very like and I think she

968
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: was intimidated by your mom because your mom was loud

969
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: and big, and like, she just was very shy. Like

970
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: I heard stories from Dad and mom that Dad was

971
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: so he wanted her so bad and she was like no,

972
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: no, no no, and that he would come to her hotel

973
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: room door and just scratch on the door. And then

974
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: finally one day she just opened the door and she's like,

975
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: you can come in, but the door is staying open,

976
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then I was conceived, you know,

977
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: and Hawaii a couple of months later, So but that's

978
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: how it started. He would just scratch and she was

979
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: just like no, no, no no. But she was just

980
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: very like reserved, but she was like she looked like

981
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. She was blonde hair, red lips, and she

982
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: knew Iggy Pop and David Bowie.

983
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 8: What was it like growing up like that for you? Meaning,

984
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 8: you know, was there recognition that this is who your

985
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 8: parents were? How was school where people like you as

986
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 8: your parents?

987
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: I was more funny about it because I just was

988
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: like everybody, like, somebody come up to me like, oh

989
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: my god, who's your dad? And then I would like

990
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: I would do one of two things. I would be

991
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: like bon Jovi just to throw them off, where I'd

992
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: be like, oh my dad died, you know, and I

993
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: would just up with people.

994
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was.

995
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: Just so annoyed by the whole thing, and so I

996
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: just kind of played and had fun with it. And

997
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: I just really, I mean, I didn't I didn't want

998
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: to go by Tyler. I was actually sat down by

999
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: him and said, don't go by Tolerico because we don't

1000
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: want everybody to know that's our last name. Now everybody knows,

1001
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: but it's you know, back before the internet. You know,

1002
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: he really thought.

1003
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: That that was like just from mystique.

1004
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, like don't let anybody know. So people change their

1005
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 5: names because they were like too long or stage.

1006
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the normal, but I didn't care. I didn't want

1007
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: anything to do with it. I mean, I wanted to

1008
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: be a singer, but then Dad shot that down. He

1009
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: was like, don't do that, and I was like, when we.

1010
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 5: Moved to New York, we had such her mom moved

1011
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 5: to the Upper East Side and she went to Merrymount

1012
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 5: and we moved to the Lower East Catholic school. She

1013
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 5: was in a uniform. I actually did go to the disc.

1014
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 5: I was very dyslexic and ADHD, so I went to

1015
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 5: York Prep, which they called Dork Prep at the time.

1016
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 5: It was actually a favorite school. But I lived on

1017
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 5: the Lower East Side. So my mom was in like

1018
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 5: her punk bands, and.

1019
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: We had very different My mom was wearing like fur

1020
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: coats and for hats walking around which I still have

1021
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: her friend. I don't know what to do with them,

1022
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: but just walking around Madison Avenue and just with her

1023
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: little Yorky that she would walk and it was like

1024
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: and I was like miserable to get out of here.

1025
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 5: Hated it. It was not so funny.

1026
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 8: It was like it was from a macro standpoint, hearing

1027
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 8: it all just feels so sexy.

1028
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But of course there's a tumult.

1029
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: There's a tumult.

1030
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 8: It's tumultuous and it's fucked up, but it just feels sexy.

1031
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 2: Almost like the Mafia in a sense. You know, it's

1032
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: it's hard, but it's just well.

1033
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 8: For me.

1034
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 5: When it got really could have been weird for me

1035
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: as a teenager, I started acting and that really saved

1036
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 5: my life because yeah, and I got to work with

1037
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 5: these incredible filmmakers, Like I graduated from high school and

1038
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 5: left the next day to roam to work with Berda

1039
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 5: Lucci on Stealing Beauty. But I was so cool because

1040
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 5: my mom, I was a tough cookie, even though I'm shy.

1041
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: She had really like armed me with the ability to

1042
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 5: suss out a situation and protect myself. So I always

1043
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 5: felt kind of safe. I had that little New York

1044
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 5: but I was in some pretty weird situations. And but

1045
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 5: I got to go and work with Jeremy Irons and

1046
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 5: all these amazing actors, and I was so cy.

1047
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: And the women when I was nineteen, and then we

1048
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: ran away together where and.

1049
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: Kate in the movie Oh None in real life.

1050
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 5: And Kates friends here was with us and we got Yeah,

1051
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 5: we got to in the movie. We we were like lovers.

1052
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: It's so funny. She's always like, why didn't we really

1053
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 5: we didn't even like we were sitting on this bench

1054
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 5: and we had to make out and we didn't really

1055
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 5: make out. We should have actually really make made out.

1056
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 8: You weren't you weren't comfortable with your femininity at that point.

1057
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: I just feel like it wasn't you were Kate, wasn't.

1058
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: Yes, only masculinity a more reason why I.

1059
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 5: Should have gone in for the kill.

1060
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: I know, it was really funny. Like looking back at it,

1061
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: it's sort of liked, that was such a wimpy kiss,

1062
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: like we should have actually, really, it was quite a sweet. Movie,

1063
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: was very movie was very.

1064
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: Like tongue it was.

1065
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 5: It was a sweet and we were like best news.

1066
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 5: So it was just sort of like the whole thing.

1067
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 5: Oh and Claire bow Is on the movie remember my

1068
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 5: little Pomanium Clare spoops.

1069
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything is a spoop.

1070
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 5: I could talk about this forever mea what are you

1071
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 5: doing now?

1072
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: Like are you I know, your mom, mom, mommy, and

1073
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: but you're so creative, like so what do you do

1074
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: for that as an outlet?

1075
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: You know? I don't Okay, It's one of those things

1076
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: where I'm at in my mom journey. So I had

1077
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: a son he's seven, and my boyfriend and I now

1078
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: I was telling you guys before a little bit.

1079
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1080
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: His mother had custody of her great grandson who's five,

1081
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: and she passed away in October. So we got him

1082
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: in the will. He was bequeathed to my boyfriend, and

1083
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: so we have now since since October been on and

1084
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: off parenting him, but we since January are full on

1085
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: parents now to him. So my boyfriend went from being

1086
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: like single guy living but I've known him for seventeen years,

1087
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: so we've been friends for a long time. But he

1088
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: was single guy living by himself two a year later

1089
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: living with me and my son. And we have a

1090
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: five year old now, and so I am I was

1091
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: just at that point with a seven year old where

1092
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: I was having freedom. He could he could go wake

1093
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: up in the morning and go watch TV and make

1094
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: his own cereal. We get to sleep in, and so

1095
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: now we're right back at five. So we are right

1096
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Speaker 1: back in.

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Speaker 5: So you are doing the hardest and best job in

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 5: the world, which is you know.

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Speaker 1: What, I love it. When they're gone, I'm like miserable.

1100
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm like where are they? But I crave them to go.

1101
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: But then the minute they're gone, I'm like, yeah, oh yeah,

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01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm just a full time Bye.

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 5: I'm saying, we've.

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Speaker 1: Already decided that when those boys turn eighteen, we are

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: getting a tour bus and we are going to go

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01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: drive around the country and just be old and be

1107
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: that couple that's in a tour bus living life. But yeah,

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01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm I don't have any outlays.

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01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: Love being on the bus. Yeah, I love being that.

1110
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm happy doing that too, But.

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01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm in that phase right now where I have zero

1112
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 1: outlets for myself and it's okay. I've I'm forty six,

1113
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: and I realize now that life is about you know,

1114
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: we always want a partner like this is my equal,

1115
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: but it's not about being equal, it's about being able

1116
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: to carry the weight. So like right now, my partner

1117
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: isn't available mentally because he lost his mom and he's

1118
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: going through a lot of stuff. So I told him recently,

1119
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: I said, if you don't have anything to give right now,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I will carry one hundred percent right now

1121
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: because I'm really good at that. Like my love language

1122
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: is giving, and I'm like strangling to the boys. So

1123
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: but he's also he's good at balancing let him give

1124
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: to you, so right now he can't. And we've had

1125
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: that discussion and I and I said, it's perfectly fine

1126
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: right now that I'm carrying things because he's he's starting

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: to come back around.

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Speaker 2: You mean it's even just emotionally.

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: Emotionally yeah, and just kind of. I mean, he's definitely

1130
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: there to help take care of the kids with me,

1131
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: but emotionally, yeah. So I think it's important that people

1132
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 1: understand that it's not about being fifty to fifty. It's

1133
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: like some days if you can be one hundred percent

1134
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: in the other person zero and being okay with that

1135
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: and discussing that. So that's right now, that's where I'm at.

1136
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 5: I'm amazing. It's really that's actually really hard for people

1137
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: to do. And I don't think I've ever been.

1138
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 8: Able to have to be really communicative to express that. Yeah,

1139
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 8: I'm about sixty.

1140
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Speaker 2: Five right now, you know what I mean, I need.

1141
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: But the secret there is having a good partner, because

1142
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: I have had shit partners in the past, and you

1143
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: have a great But I didn't care about myself until

1144
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: I had my son, right, and now my standards are like,

1145
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: and so my boyfriend, now, he's a great man. I

1146
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: know that he can handle things when the tables turned.

1147
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 5: That's so great. I think that way about relationships all

1148
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 5: the time. It's like the give and take.

1149
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 3: But also, really, what I'm hearing you say is like

1150
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: everyone's life experience is their own. We choose to be

1151
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 3: with our partner and we create this unit, but there's

1152
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: sort of this expectation that because you're in a unit,

1153
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: that means your life doesn't really exist outside of that unit.

1154
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 3: When it's so important to give people the freedom to

1155
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: have their own life experience, like a totally independent one

1156
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 3: of their partner.

1157
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: And figuring that out as a family is challenging, but

1158
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. It's like when you do

1159
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: a puzzle and you get to the like you know

1160
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: the end, or you really figured it out, and you're like,

1161
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,959
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is great. Like I love being

1162
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: in this chaos right now right it makes me feel

1163
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,959
Speaker 1: like a really good mom because I love being a mom.

1164
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: I like my whole life. Everybody used to call me

1165
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: mom and Mia and I hated it, and then once

1166
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: I finally mom me, I was like, yeah I am,

1167
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: and I just I love it. So I feel like

1168
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm in this little puzzle right now and I'm like

1169
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: holding everybody together and I'm really loving it. It's stressful.

1170
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: I have to fly to Mississippi tomorrow with two boys

1171
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: with a layover. Yeah, and because I have to fly

1172
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: with both of them, we have to fly you know,

1173
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: Southwest coach, which maybe that's on snobby, but like I

1174
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: like to fly in first class. But so like you know,

1175
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm going on Southwest because we can all

1176
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: sit together in a row, and like we have a

1177
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: layover because there's no direct flights to Mississippi. So pray

1178
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: for me tomorrow. But like I just I'm.

1179
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 8: Looking forward to that kind of stuff because here's the thing,

1180
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 8: no matter if it's if it's an easy trip or

1181
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 8: if it's you just fucking do it. Yeah, Like that's

1182
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 8: the thing. You just do it and you you get

1183
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 8: through it.

1184
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 2: You just do.

1185
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: So when I land tomorrow at nine thirty, I'm going

1186
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: to feel like exhausted, but I'm going to.

1187
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: Be like, you know, yeah, so what now that you

1188
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 3: I mean only touched on the surface. I'd love to

1189
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 3: get into like all the other year the you know,

1190
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 3: the rest of it.

1191
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 5: But let's talk about our female women adults about our child.

1192
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 5: Who are you? Now, That's what I was going to say,

1193
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 5: Like who are you?

1194
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 10: Like?

1195
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: How would you look back and you reflect on like

1196
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 3: what you came from, how you grew up, the sort

1197
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: of like wild tapestry that you both came from.

1198
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 5: Oh I like that wild I love it.

1199
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: Friends, So but but like what you know, what would

1200
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: you say that you took from your life that you

1201
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 3: still want to give your kids some of?

1202
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 5: And what is it or not? Or what is it

1203
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 5: that like you think is so different from how you

1204
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 5: grew up? To speak for all of us, but I shouldn't,

1205
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 5: but I would I observe as the alpha pub elder,

1206
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 5: we all saw our parents like really busy working and

1207
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 5: like potentially career was always sort of first. It was

1208
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 5: like there was a certain things that had to be

1209
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 5: accepted and maybe parenting not always first. And I would

1210
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 5: say that all four of us sibs, we've really prioritized

1211
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 5: parenting over anything at the detriment of relationships, relationships, career

1212
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 5: or whatever. So where we all four have children now

1213
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 5: two I have three, milose twenty sailor is am writer.

1214
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 5: I believe it so that was like our I would say,

1215
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 5: it's been something for all of us to reparent ourselves

1216
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 5: through having our children and potentially healing some of those

1217
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 5: wounds while celebrating the beautiful tapestry, as you say, of

1218
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 5: what we came from. And that's for sure be my journey.

1219
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 5: And throughout I've had sort of two I had Milo first,

1220
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 5: just for ten years, and then I had a whole

1221
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 5: other family with Sailor and Lula who were eight and

1222
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 5: ten now. So yeah, it's an interesting thing. And now

1223
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 5: I'm starting a business and trying to figure out how

1224
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 5: I can be home with them and not be on

1225
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 5: set in a way and traveling but fulfilling my drink

1226
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 5: and drinkings and goals and stuff. I've gotten them, I've

1227
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 5: gotten n I've got all the samples. I love that.

1228
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 5: I was exciting. But it's so fun to allow yourself

1229
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 5: to your life. Friday treats.

1230
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, all live, all live, but it's so fun to

1231
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 9: explorers seek a live live Well, you can come in

1232
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 9: and do a collap I'll just come.

1233
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 5: Do a song for me because you singing your songs

1234
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 5: makes me so fucking happy all day from you singing

1235
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 5: one of your songs on the toilet. Oh my god,

1236
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 5: whatever his coffy songs, they're so good. That is this

1237
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 5: like an Instagram thing?

1238
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: He just starts started sing freestyles, just.

1239
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: Singing, Okay, I don't know, you could seak anything.

1240
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: And the singer, my little seven year old is going

1241
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,959
Speaker 1: to be a huge singer. I can tell. He sings

1242
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: most of his songs on the toilet. Go in there

1243
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: and it doesn't He's just singing at the top of

1244
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: his lungs c spot.

1245
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 5: I realized that Ronnie has.

1246
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of toilet talk, Ronnie has what I have, which

1247
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 3: is when I'm on the when I'm on the toilet,

1248
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 3: somehow the door always opens.

1249
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 5: And I was like, rider, are you I get I

1250
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 5: want to talk? I want I'm like, I'm like, this

1251
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 5: goes way back.

1252
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 3: Was like and I'm like, hey, Tati, did we ever

1253
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 3: call the like behind the door.

1254
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 8: When we were living we were kids, rooms right across

1255
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 8: from each other.

1256
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 5: Door into my room toilet and be like so like

1257
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 5: all he like, I'm like, what is go.

1258
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 3: Into Oliver's toilet and and like and like goss and gossip.

1259
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 5: But then but Ronnie, now Ronnie, I realized.

1260
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: She she's yeah, she says she was on the toilet

1261
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: every time she opens it, and she's like, Lisa hurt

1262
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: than Nanny. She's like, I feel like tomorrow I should

1263
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 3: wear the like She's just like you know, the blue

1264
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 3: flower bell about.

1265
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 5: Us, and I'm like, oh my god, Spoopy, can we

1266
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 5: talk to one second about you making your dream come

1267
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 5: true and singing and your album because my whole life

1268
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 5: that I've known you, that's been like You're always singing.

1269
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 5: We go over to the house and she has a

1270
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 5: microphone listened to me. Your version of Creep is the

1271
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 5: greatest thing I can't I can't sing Creep any other

1272
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 5: way than your but it's so beautiful. I'm so proud

1273
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 5: of I told you that.

1274
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 3: And it's really funny because there are only like a

1275
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: can full of people in my life that really know,

1276
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:41,480
Speaker 3: like have like unders, like I've seen it how important

1277
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 3: that piece of my life is. And it goes back

1278
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: to like what you were saying about your Italian heritage, Like, honestly,

1279
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know where that belonged to Oliver.

1280
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 5: His songs definitely didn't. It wasn't a clue. It wasn't

1281
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 5: a clue. No, I get it, I go. But like

1282
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 5: I always felt very alone in my like your music,

1283
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 5: in like.

1284
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: That crazy connection. I think, what's so great about this

1285
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 3: time too? We grew up Like here we are talking

1286
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 3: about our family and we're being obviously you know, is

1287
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 3: you want eloquent and elegant about how we talk about

1288
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: how we grew up because we don't ever want to,

1289
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, offend anybody or hurt anybody's feelings, and those

1290
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 3: things can be sensitive. But like we're living in a

1291
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 3: time now where people feel much more open about being

1292
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: honest about where they come from and what that meant

1293
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: for them, how they reflect on it. And then as

1294
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: an artist you don't have to just be one thing anymore.

1295
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 3: You can go and have a creative idea that has

1296
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: nothing to do with acting, and you can go connect

1297
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 3: with nature and make something beautiful.

1298
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 5: And the hardest thing now is focus though, because we're

1299
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 5: all so distracted. Yeah, and you're already adhd to focus.

1300
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: Then something.

1301
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 5: I have I asked I've passed it on to my children,

1302
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 5: to particularly sailor and live. I asked the woman that

1303
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 5: they see, who's this incredible reading specialist, if she would

1304
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 5: test me because I've found I've found so many loopholes

1305
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 5: and ways of memorizing my lines and seeing things differently,

1306
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 5: and but I would love to know, like all my

1307
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 5: kids have like total diagnosis, and I want that. I

1308
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 5: love you guys so much.

1309
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 3: Let's do our last little thing that we do, which

1310
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: is we're going to do two questions.

1311
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 2: First, do you guys get to see each other alone?

1312
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 5: Not enough? It's so stupid because it is hard having

1313
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 5: this many kids.

1314
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: Where like, yeah, I know, I mean so how often

1315
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: a year we just saw each other.

1316
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: Sailor's birthday and you do birthday parties or like Thanksgiving,

1317
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: she does a big shindig, so we drive up. I

1318
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: love where she lives, so I'm always like, can I

1319
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: come up? Was like, we need to more so.

1320
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 5: Than the kids were up till like midnight, and it

1321
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 5: was and I am super relaxed, but I was like,

1322
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 5: this is too much.

1323
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: Spoopy is so relaxed that when I'm sometimes when we're

1324
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: like doing kids stuff together, she's so laid back and

1325
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 3: you're such a good strict mama. I am so these moments,

1326
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: but the kids are like jumping and running and things.

1327
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 5: And I was like, I can't discipline her kids. And

1328
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 5: then I'm like when I'm like, we went to see

1329
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift. That was so cut Ronnie and Lula.

1330
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 3: But the thing is is for me then I'm sitting there,

1331
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like my kids watch that and

1332
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: they're like, you're the worst.

1333
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 5: Know me about me? Very was your mom very strict

1334
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 5: with you or very so? And then I don't think

1335
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 5: my mom was strict with me, but I was a

1336
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 5: little bit scared of her. Yeah, my kids are definitely scared.

1337
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh god, Okay, here's the question.

1338
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 5: The first part of the question, the two part question.

1339
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 5: First part of the question is if there's something that

1340
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 5: you wish you had more of with your of your sister,

1341
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 5: like sort of something you would emulate. What would that be?

1342
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 5: And then the second part of the question would be

1343
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 5: something that you wish that you could alleviate from your

1344
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 5: sister that you know that we would be you know,

1345
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 5: make her life just easier or you.

1346
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: Know for me like live always knows, like the things

1347
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: like real estaps, the yeah, the real estate, the soaps,

1348
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: like every time she comes home for Christmas or something

1349
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: like I kind of like what's in there and it's

1350
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: like that nutrient gena rainbaths.

1351
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 5: So that's from dad. Oh but yeah, that's and I

1352
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 5: was like, remember that ga like body oil.

1353
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 1: She always knows all the stuff, like the foods and

1354
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: the products and the like just everything. So I'm always

1355
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 1: like as a mom and a younger sister, I'm always

1356
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: like watching like when you used to.

1357
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 5: But if I tell you you don't like it, you

1358
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 5: can reserve it. But if I tell her, she's kind

1359
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 5: of acted because she'll send these like.

1360
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: Group texts and it's like get these night lights. And

1361
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: so the first thing I do there straight to Amazon

1362
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: and I buy all the stuff or there was like spatulas,

1363
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so she's always got like the she's

1364
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: always got the inn on, like the stuff that you know,

1365
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: like as a mom, you buy everything and then you

1366
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: realize nothing works and then like kids don't eat it.

1367
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: But she always just knows, and I wish I had that,

1368
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: So I just kind of like sit back. So every

1369
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: time I go to your house and like checking everything out.

1370
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: So that's like one of my favorite things about you

1371
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: as a mom, sister Mom, is that you just like

1372
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: you just kind of beast through being a mom. Like

1373
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: I know that you've had practice with like my own stuff,

1374
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: but like you just observe you know I would never

1375
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: know to find the nutrigen of greenbath. And I know

1376
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: you take came from Dad, but.

1377
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 5: Like everywhere I look and I like, I just collect, like,

1378
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 5: oh that smells good. That good, but it sounded good.

1379
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 5: I want to eat that.

1380
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: You have to buy children's shampoo, right, and you have

1381
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: to get like kids shampoo. But she one time she

1382
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: had know you had like pantine and I was like,

1383
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: oh right, Panteene two in one for kids. That's so smart.

1384
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: You just knock it out.

1385
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 10: And that was a game changer for the pante Lula

1386
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 10: has this like crazy curly hair and she always winds

1387
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 10: up in bed with me and the curls.

1388
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 5: It's so much hair. I'm like choking on it. But

1389
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 5: now I just sniffed pant there. But it's like I

1390
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 5: used to be a pante girl once, but now I

1391
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 5: have like I remember, I.

1392
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: Remember she's like on the trampoline.

1393
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 5: It is, so what would you alleviate for your sister?

1394
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've all been single moms and

1395
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: moms with partners and then single moms and stuff. So

1396
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: as a mom who's been a single mom and now

1397
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: I have a partner, and I know that you're single momming.

1398
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: I always my wish is to alleviate some of the

1399
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: weight that you carry with three children, because now having two,

1400
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: I know how insane it is.

1401
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 5: And I made to trust, trust, to love, trust, and

1402
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 5: just alleviate some trust.

1403
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: You know.

1404
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 5: Okay, are you dating?

1405
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 8: I don't, I mean no, no, no, Well let me

1406
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 8: talk to Aaron.

1407
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: Maybe we're going to do.

1408
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 5: Aaron's so cute. I've never dated. I don't think I've

1409
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 5: ever been on a date in my I can think

1410
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 5: of one person and I really didn't enjoy it. That's

1411
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 5: always been I wait for you, like Hi, I love you,

1412
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 5: we're together, like I.

1413
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: Just saw one of those of yours from like when

1414
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 3: I was in New York.

1415
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: That's my wish for you though, because like I went

1416
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: through like so many duds and just bad boys. I

1417
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: can change you.

1418
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 8: I can.

1419
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: And I have like the most amazing guy now that

1420
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: I manifested. And we were friends for seventeen years and

1421
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: I just never saw it. And then all of a sudden,

1422
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: one day I said, I was like, if I'm going

1423
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: to date again, you need to write me a ten

1424
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: thousand or a thousand word essay on how you won't

1425
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: waste my time, and.

1426
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 5: He did it, he wrote me, and I don't care

1427
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 5: if he.

1428
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: Wants your chat GBT, but he wrote me about how

1429
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: he won't waste my time, and he does not waste

1430
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: my time now, and so I wish my wish for

1431
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: you is and he's like a hot biker bearded thing,

1432
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: and I just and I want that for her. I

1433
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: want her to like have a man. That's just I

1434
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: told my I told him, I said, if you want me,

1435
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: you need to bonk me over the He had like

1436
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: a caveman and dragged me into your cave because that's

1437
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: the only way it's going to work. And I want

1438
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: you to get bunked over the head. And just I

1439
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: want you to that's just like a man.

1440
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 5: I feel like relationship I've been mine is older soon

1441
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 5: and I were twin an older man.

1442
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to get heart like I still.

1443
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 5: I have like a love in my heart still and

1444
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 5: it just takes me a long time to I'm still, you.

1445
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: Need an older man to bonk you. So that's that's

1446
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: my manifestation for you.

1447
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 5: A long time for me to. It does like if

1448
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 5: I love someone, I love them so much and it's forever.

1449
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 5: I'm friends with every boyfriend.

1450
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm not friends with any of them and I don't

1451
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: want to.

1452
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: But then, but then when it arrives you you shift

1453
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: pretty quick.

1454
01:19:50,560 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 5: Yes. I was like, right, okay, yeah, this is good.

1455
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 5: That sounds great. It'll come, it'll come. And what about

1456
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 5: you for your sisters? What was I was trying to.

1457
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 3: Remember the first question, what do you love that you

1458
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 3: had more of a time energetically energetic her of her personality,

1459
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 3: of who she is.

1460
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 5: I would say the first thing that jumped it was

1461
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 5: just time for us to know each other more because

1462
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 5: we met in such an abrupt way, and it was

1463
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 5: always like we're siblings and we're sisters. But we've never

1464
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 5: I don't think we've ever. We have never gone away

1465
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 5: just the two of us and had like a sleepover

1466
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 5: weekend because there's always Chelsea there, child there, and my

1467
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 5: dad there. It's hard for us to just be.

1468
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: Together those like my gosh, places you go to, you know,

1469
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: because I don't want a colonic but.

1470
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: Coffee.

1471
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 5: I love that.

1472
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: But what is it about her who she is that

1473
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 3: it's something that you wish the same thing.

1474
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 5: I could alleviate her power and her strength, but I

1475
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 5: wish that she could surrender to trust sometimes that like

1476
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 5: but that, but but I yeah, that that she's safe.

1477
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 5: We have a very safety and trust because it's that

1478
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 5: thing of it's not like if the person is going

1479
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 5: to leave, it's like when are you leaving? Because I.

1480
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: Abandonment issues and that's a whole other episode.

1481
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 5: I love you guys. I know we don't get to

1482
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 5: ask you any questions about your sippiness, but you guys talk.

1483
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 3: About it all the time, you know, yeah, yeah, our

1484
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 3: listeners know so much about your dad and oh.

1485
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, headline after headline.

1486
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 3: But I want you to talk a little bit before

1487
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 3: we go about what you're doing right now so people

1488
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 3: can get excited if you can talk about it.

1489
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 5: You haven't talked about it with anyone, but I totally can.

1490
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 5: You can, okay talk about it secret person. It's so funny.

1491
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 5: I just you know what it is. It's that thing

1492
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 5: of as an actor, you kind of don't you always

1493
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 5: feel like, oh, the movie might not come out, even

1494
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 5: if it's a huge lease, you don't talk about it

1495
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 5: too it comes out yet. So I relocated to this

1496
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 5: little mountain town, and I always had these dreams of

1497
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 5: I've always been such a homebody and kind of creating

1498
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 5: things at home, but my whole life, I've had these

1499
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 5: visions of like chickens and children and music and food.

1500
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 5: And so I started a business that's called Pink Mountain,

1501
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 5: and I've been working really hard to kind of trademark

1502
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 5: everything and have everything. But I have olive oil, and

1503
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 5: olives were growing dropping into my living room and I

1504
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 5: started making olive oil and my favorite day cute. I'm

1505
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 5: learning so much well in our Italian eness. Like everywhere

1506
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 5: I've gone my whole life, I bring all of I

1507
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 5: have to just cover everything and ali and salt or

1508
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 5: I'd rather not eat it. If I have to go

1509
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 5: somewhere and there's no olive oil, insult, I might not eat.

1510
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 5: But I also adopted all these pixie tangerine trees, which

1511
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 5: are a special thing of oh Hi. And so I

1512
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 5: did kind of a slightly crazy thing. I covid happened.

1513
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 5: We relocated to this town where Mila was going to school,

1514
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 5: and I let go of all my representation, all my

1515
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 5: agents and managers and yeah, for three years, not because

1516
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 5: of anything other than I decided that I wanted to

1517
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 5: allow myself to be able to think without influence from

1518
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 5: other people, because we're always so influenced. Like you'll read

1519
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 5: a script and then you'll have one thought and then

1520
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 5: they're convincing you of something else. And I thought, what what?

1521
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 5: After being thirteen and starting, I just was like wanted

1522
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 5: to know what it was like to exist in something

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Speaker 5: that I could create that was one hundred percent my

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01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 5: painting or what was coming from my soul in my mind.

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01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 5: And so I kind of like cleared the space and

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01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 5: then put a little team together to help me do that.

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01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 5: And so I've been working towards that. It's been really

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01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 5: fun pressing local. Yes, well that is a whole journey.

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 5: This week we drove three hours away to the most

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 5: incredible place and I met this like wild, amazing mad

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01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 5: scientist man. It's really that part's really interesting is sort

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01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 5: of studying. I love to study. I think that's my

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01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 5: favorite thing about being an actor, is having not gone

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01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 5: to college and maybe not having the best education. I

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01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 5: love learning things and in such an intense kind of

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 5: focused way. So I'm just enjoying nerding out on the

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01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 5: passion of like farmer Live.

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Speaker 1: I love Farmers Live.

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Speaker 5: It's so fun. We have chicken and cats, and by

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01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 5: the way, chickens are the best pets. The best themselves

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01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 5: to sleep at night, and they give you one egg

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,799
Speaker 5: every day. They're so cute.

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Speaker 3: I loved my chickens for a long time, and then

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01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,759
Speaker 3: one lasted like eleven years. It was like almost a decade.

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Speaker 5: Was crazy. People were like, chickens don't last all. I'm like,

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01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 5: well she did. She did. Very sweet. They're little dinosaurs. Yeah. Well,

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01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 5: it's not as simple as it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not talking about the workload.

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying nature working with you know, food and nourishment.

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Speaker 5: I've learned a lot from that that when we moved

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 5: from during COVID, why I called it Pink Mountain is

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01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 5: the town I live and has this thing called the

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01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 5: Pink Moment and every day the mountain turns pink for

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01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 5: about three Yeah. But I had never grown up in

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 5: the mountain, and there's something so powerful about whenever I

1556
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 5: was stressing out going through a lot of changes, and

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01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 5: I would go outside and there was this like huge mountain,

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01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 5: and it just put everything in such perspective that all

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01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 5: my problems and we're going to come and go and

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01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 5: the mountain's not going any We all.

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01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,919
Speaker 3: Feel about Colorado like growing up in Colorado.

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 5: I think we all like weirdly just want to be there,

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01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 5: but we're not, which is weird. And in the wisdom

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01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 5: in the mountain, it's like thousands and thousands of years

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01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 5: of it's just there. Yeah, and all these all these

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01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 5: other things are going to come and go in the

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01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 5: mountain's still going to be there. Well. I can't wait

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01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 5: for all of this thing to start happening and for

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01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 5: it to come out. And people are going to love it.

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01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 5: I just know it.

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: Because you're working so passionately with it, and like even

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01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 3: just the way it looks, and you're I didn't.

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Speaker 5: Even get to show you. I can't wait. I can't

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01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 5: wait to show you more. Other than that, I've been

1575
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,879
Speaker 5: sending Christmas. I didn't send you any for Christmas. Every Christmas,

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01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 5: I've been sending marmalade and all of the oil. And

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01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 5: I love you guys. You're so far, so much, so fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I