1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a A to 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: b a q A. Would you say the b a 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: q Mandy, it'd be a q A with tiffin A 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: to b a q a A. Hey, Andrea gorgeous. Well, 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: first of all, if you have questions, we might have 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: some answers, but we are not your doctor, your attorney. 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: You have financial advisor with just your friend. So you're 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: gonna take what we say with the small skate of salt. 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: You're gonna leand it to the people that you pay 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: a ka sue your granny, not us. 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: Okay, So got that out of the way. We're doing 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: money questions this week. 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Or you've read read and what do people have questions? 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Work at as. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for queuing up that for me. So 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: you can go to brand Ambisson podcast at on Instagram. 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: We are at Brown Ambition What what are words? We're 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 2: at Brown Ambition podcast on Instagram. And then you can 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: email us Brandon Mission Podcast at gmail dot com with 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: your questions and if you have a follow up, what 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: would be really amazing is if you could remind us 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: what was your first question, because Instagram doesn't make it 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: super easy for us to go back. 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Even if you like, it would be great if you 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: were like an episode, because we have the numbered an 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: episode forty five. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, exactly tell us what episode yours question 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: was in. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: So that we could go back and be like, oh, 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Okay, very smart. All right, Tiffany, our first question is 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: from someone who wants to be called a mama trying 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: to do it all. Okay, she spelled your name in 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: a hilarious fashion. Hey, Andy and tif t I p h. 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: I've seen that you're giving me a life, tiff. 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for all your wise words and always being my 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: piece when I'm feeling stressed as a mom with a 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: two year old. I love putting on your podcast and 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: listening throughout the day in the background. I'm thirty four 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: and I love my job and I've been there for 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: over ten years. I work full time, I have work 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: from home flexibility, and I'm debt free. I have over 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars in my four to zero one 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: K and an eight fifteen credit score. Is this a 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: question or like your dating profile? 46 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: I do. 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Also, she won't need one, because the next sentence says, 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: my husband and I took up the site Routes in life. 49 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: He went the education route and is building his career 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: right now. He works part time, but he's a huge 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: help with childcare. He's also debt free except for student loans. 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: Despite him working part time, we have still managed to 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: save around forty five thousand dollars amazing. What do we 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: do with that savings? Do we leave it? Or do 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: we buy our first house? Where in California and prices 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: are absolutely crazy. We've looked at a few homes, but 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: realize that our mortgage would be more than double from 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: what we currently pay in rent. I'm hesitant with my 59 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: husband's income right now, but also our two year old 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: will be starting pre K soon and although that may 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: be an extra expense, that would allow my husband to work. Oh, 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: although that would be an extra expense, it also allowed 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: my husband to work more to increase our finances. If 64 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: we don't purchase a home and continue to save, should 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: I put the money in a high yield savings account? 66 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for your suggestions. 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Oh Mama, trying to do it all well far as 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: we want to acknowledge, Girl, you're doing the damn doing 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: the damn doing the damn thing with the money that 70 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: you have for your four O one K, your credit score, 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: the fact that you're both debt free even though your 72 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: husband has student loans, and you've still been still managed 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: with the child to save forty five thousand dollars. Girl, 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: do you want to host abodcast? 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. 76 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: We want to give you your accolades. So let's break it down. Okay. So, 77 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: to me, home ownership is not always the answer for 78 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: all the girls, and so purchasing a home, certainly, you know, 79 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: can positively affect your finances, but it has to make 80 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: financial sense, and paying double what you pay now in 81 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: rent might not. Although the likelihood is that your home 82 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: is going to appreciate in value because you're in California still, 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, by you know, you're probably gonna erode whatever 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: that was because you would pay so much more as 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: it relates to your mortgage and taxes and things like that. 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: So I think home ownership, if you are looking at California, 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: might be something that you would pause for now. So 88 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: that's probably what I'd be thinking. Two, I'd be looking 89 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: at this forty five I'm assuming this forty five thousand 90 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: dollars is your emergency savings. How many months is this? 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Is it? You know? Three months? Is it six months? 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Is it a year of emergency savings? 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: Speaking from experience, that's probably like a good three or 94 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: four months. 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking it was giving. 96 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: Which sounds insane, But in California with a familis, it's 97 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: giving a month at least. 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's giving about three or four months or which 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: which is good. Which I mean if it was me, 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: three or four months, it's emergency savings is like a 101 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: safety belt. It's not meant to be cute, just meant 102 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: to sustain. And so I probably would put that either 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: in a CD, like a rollover CD that has no 104 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: early withdrawal fees, or I would put it in a 105 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: high yield savings account, as you suggested, because that money 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: is meant to be accessible in case something does happen. 107 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: So that's my first initial piece of advice. Hey, ba fan, 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. 109 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: I was just wondering what rates are like on savings 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: accounts these days. Once se for like an online account 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: four point five percent apy or higher. I mean, that 112 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: sounds pretty damn good these days. I'm curious you said 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: a CD, but CDs will lock up your money for 114 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: a certain period of time, like at least six months. 115 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Right, No, not necessarily. The only reason why it's fresh 116 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: in my mind is because literally for business, I had 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: my bank. I was like, girl, we have we have 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: six months of emergency savings for the business. And I said, 119 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: it's just sitting here. What can we do? And they 120 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: mentioned they had a two month CD, and I said, oh, 121 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: so what I like to do? So we have six 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: months saved? So I said, well, what if we put 123 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: four month and the two month CD leaving two months free, 124 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: so if something happens, we have the two months available, 125 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: and then at four months, you know by the time 126 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: it like, you know it's available. If something's happened, you 127 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: know we're ready to use it because we let up 128 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: two months. So some CDs are two months, three months, 129 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and so it's something to just consider sometimes because you're 130 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: willing to lock your money down, even just a little bit, 131 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: you can generate more than than a just a regular 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: high yield savings account. Something to look into. So they 133 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: do definitely sometimes have CDs for shorter periods of time. 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: So if you have if there is a two month CD, 135 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: that maybe gives you say, like I don't know, four 136 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: point seventy five percent, you know, and you have four 137 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: months worth of emergency savings. Maybe you keep two in 138 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: a high yield savings account, two in the CD and 139 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: let it continue to roll over, you know, like as needed. 140 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: And so that's just something to consider. So you can 141 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: make a little bit more money with your money if 142 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: that makes sense. That's just bank to bank. So question, 143 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: do we what do we do with this? Do we 144 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: buy our first house? I probably pause? And then what 145 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: do we kind of do with this money? I probably 146 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: would do what you what you kind of suggested for yourself. 147 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: But ultimately, I think the biggest thing is especially you know, 148 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: you guys are this great age where it's like, you know, 149 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: you've made these choices that are really aligned. The really 150 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: important thing is to ask yourself, what's my desired outcome 151 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: for our money? You know, like do we want to 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: be homeowners? Do we want to move back home with 153 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: you know and be by our parents, you know, who 154 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: live in Wisconsin. I'm just making this up, you know, 155 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: do we want to be millionaires by forty that It's 156 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: going to be really, really, really important for you to 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: determine what do we want the next five ten plus 158 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: years to look like, because that will dictate what you 159 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: do with your money, you know, So I sit down 160 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: with your husband and say, Okay, in five years, this 161 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: is what i'd like. Maybe you write it down, he 162 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: writes it down, and you guys look at it together. 163 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: So you could tell your money what to do so 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: you can reach those that desired outcome. I think that's 165 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: really where you are right now. Put your money, you know, 166 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: in a high yield savings counter CD, sit down with 167 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: your hubby and say here's where we'd like to be 168 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: in the next five years and then ten years, you know, 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: and then then make your choices based upon that. 170 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just add it sounds like because I'm 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: in the same predicament. The more childcare I have, the 172 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: more expensive it is, right, But the more capable you 173 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: are then of like creating more income for yourself. And 174 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, you know, paying for pre K, which 175 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: I think is a tragedy, Like why is universal pre k? 176 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Do you pay for pre K in New York as 177 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: it's free in New Jersey? 178 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: Up in New York City there is universal three K 179 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: pre k, So like for threes en up in where 180 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: I live, in our school district, we got very lucky 181 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: that the year that Rio was pre K eligible, they 182 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: reduced the first UPK program in our school district. We 183 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: were like the last ones. And even then it's only 184 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: from like nine to two, and then you pay for 185 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: the extended care or the you know, pre the extended 186 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: care before school and the extended care after school. Yeah, 187 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: but it's still like I think with all of that, 188 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: we'd still pay about five or six hundred dollars a month, 189 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: but certainly a lot less than the three thousand dollars 190 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: we were selling out before. And it's just inside. 191 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it wasn't because New Jersey they 192 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: started ABBOT program years and years ago when I was 193 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: a teacher, so like over fifteen years ago. And then 194 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if somebody sued that was 195 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: named was Abbot saying like, hey, I don't know if 196 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: it's let me not say New Jersey, let me say 197 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: New York, because I don't know for you all kind 198 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: of fight me, like, but in Newark, I believe that 199 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: there was this ABBOT lawsuit saying that like children in 200 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Newark and maybe maybe Esces County didn't have access to 201 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: proper find you know, proper education at the certain age. 202 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, they made preschool into public school basically essentially 203 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: where three or four year olds are considered like going 204 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: to public school. So it is the full you know, 205 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: seven to three or whatever day, and then you can, 206 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: of course, you know, there's sometimes just after school. But yeah, 207 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: I just took it for granted that, like that's right. 208 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: I forgot that many places you still pay it to 209 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: your kid gets sometimes even kindergarten is half day certain places. 210 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: I mean nine to two might as well be a 211 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: half day as far as I'm concerned, Like what am 212 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: I supposed to do with that five hours? Oh my goodness. Yeah, 213 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 2: So my heart just goes out to you in that regard. 214 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: But you know, letting your husband, I will say, like, 215 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: it is nice to have the parent there to help 216 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: with the childcare and all of that, but your husband's 217 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: building his career. He needs to go fulfill his dream too, 218 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: and so I think investing in that childcare, even if 219 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: it means like you know, let's keep more money in 220 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: the bank now, like that is still like you don't 221 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: know what will happen in the future in terms of 222 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: like home prices and things like that. But I feel 223 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: like right in front of you, it just makes the 224 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: most sense to keep that money set aside for your 225 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: you know, for your family's emergency funds. You your husband 226 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: can like continue building his career and you guys can 227 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: do it without a ton of pressure on that funding. 228 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: And certainly wouldn't want you to like put your down 229 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: put all that money into like would that even be 230 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: enough for a doown payment? And some like probably not, Like, 231 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: it just seems like earmarking that for emergency savings is 232 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: great and then building on that for your long term 233 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: savings so you can buy a house. Yeah, sounds good. 234 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: On your own time, Yes, on your own time. All right, 235 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back 236 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: with question number two. B r B al rightba fan, 237 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: we are back. 238 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Tiff. 239 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: You want to read this one from Natasha from Instagram? 240 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Yes? Is it? Yes? Okay? Good morning. First and foremost, 241 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to say how much I enjoy your podcast. Well, 242 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: we enjoy you, Natasha. Thank you, Tasha says, can I 243 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: call you Tasha? My question is how to unlock the 244 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: next budget friendly step in my financial journey. I have 245 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: a good foundation on various topics and would like to 246 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: invest with education and purpose. But the experts I research 247 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: require at least ten thousand dollars for their program. In 248 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: my world, we call that high ticket item, okay, and 249 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: looking for ways to get into real estate, the coaches 250 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: are charging at least fifteen thousand for their services. I 251 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: do have monthly income of about five hundred dollars to 252 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: put toward these products, but certainly not thousands of dollars. 253 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: I've cleared all my dad. Go ahead, girl, invest about 254 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: fifty dollars via robberhood. I'm also a seven year homeowner. 255 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: How can I elevate well on a budget? Okay? Okay? 256 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: How do you feel mandy about like the high ticket 257 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: item coaches? 258 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I do think that. I think 259 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: that when you are looking for education on something like 260 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: real estate and you just do a search online, the 261 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: first thing you're going to see, I think, are a 262 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: lot of these really high ticket paid courses and things 263 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: like that which can make you feel like, oh, that 264 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: must be what I need in order to do this. 265 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: But I guarantee you, if you look at the you 266 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: know how this real estate coach got their start. It 267 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: wasn't through investing fifteen k in a coach, they probably 268 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: did a lot of education and you know self education, 269 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: self taught first and looking at mentors and books. People 270 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: forget about books. Go into the library is a wonderful, 271 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: very simple thing to do in a way to educate yourself. 272 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: I surely wouldn't spend that much money unless I had 273 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: really good evidence that it was going to, you know, 274 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: result in the goal that I wanted. And when it 275 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: comes to real estate, I don't know how you could 276 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: promise someone that they would be in real estate investor 277 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: and make you know, a good return on their investment afterward. 278 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: Like that's really hard to promise. So I'm not saying 279 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: that they wouldn't be worth it, but I would just say, like, 280 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: before you get there, like do some base level education 281 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: and you know, find out what kind of real estate 282 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: investor do you want to be. Are you someone who 283 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: wants to be a landlord or does being a landlord 284 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: seem like way too much trouble for you? So are 285 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: you looking to maybe you know, invest in a property 286 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: and then flip it, like to insel it? Those are 287 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: completely different approaches. Do you want to have an Airbnb 288 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: property where someone else manages the property for you and 289 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: you don't have to do the day to day stuff. 290 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you are more hands on, Like there's there's a 291 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: lot and if you can't afford it, that's almost the 292 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: first answer. It's like, if you can't afford it, you 293 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: don't have to do that. Yeah, there's other lower ticket 294 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: ways of educating yourself. 295 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: And so I'll say that. So one of my friends, 296 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: her name is Christina Aguilera, like not the sayer Christina 297 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: with the cake. Wait really yeah, I know, I think 298 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: I know, so Christina with the CA. So Christina lives 299 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. I don't know if she still lives there. 300 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: But so, I mean she's like slaying and now when 301 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: it comes to real estate and she's talked about how 302 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you should probably follow her. It's 303 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Christina with a K. I think she's on ig as 304 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera with the K. So she talks about how, 305 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I want to say, she maxed out her credit cards 306 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars doing what you're trying to do. 307 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: Now. 308 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: When she first started, she was like, girl is of 309 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: course yes, she said, evenly you knew how much? Like 310 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: but that was many many years ago, and she was 311 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: like knowing what she knows. Now. To Mandy's point, I've 312 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: hed her say she would have started slower because there 313 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: are there are certainly courses in people that are going 314 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: to be worth that amount of money. But for you, 315 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: if you are playing Russian Roulette, that you think that 316 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: you're going to pick them out right away, because what 317 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: will happened is is that if you start, like to 318 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Mandy's point, with like, oh, you know they have YouTube 319 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: and you know there are books, and you will start 320 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: to really get through the grapevine. Who are the people 321 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: that really know the thing. So one of the things 322 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: that Christina did she had visited me andknew a few 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: years back, and what I thought was so great. She 324 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: said there was these Facebook groups of like like Budding 325 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: and Deeper real estate investors, and they had these Facebook 326 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: groups and they would do meetups, which I thought that 327 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: was so great. I've heard this, yeah, and it was 328 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: totally free. She just joined the Facebook group and they'd 329 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, we're going to be in in Elizabeth 330 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: at such and such you know restaurant, like you know, 331 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: getting some drinks. And I just love that because they're 332 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: at those meetups, they were, you know, talking the type 333 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: of real estate investing Christina does. Typically she purchases a property, 334 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: she renovates, and then she the seals of rents it out. 335 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: So they were in New Jersey talking about you know 336 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: what contractors that, oh, don't use him and this is 337 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: what you So it was and that didn't cost anything, 338 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, I was I was able to just go 339 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: and I thought it was fascinating because I told her 340 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: I was kind of maybe interested investing in real estate. 341 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: She was a girl before you spend any money come 342 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: to these meetups to ask these questions. So I, you know, 343 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: I just share mandy sentiment that it doesn't mean that 344 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't have to spend money to take ourselves 345 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: to the next level. But I don't believe in starting there, 346 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: you know, because the likelihood that you'll actually pick the 347 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: person where you're going to get a return on investment 348 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: is not very likely. It is better to exhaust all 349 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: the free options and then the lower tier and then 350 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: you can grow, you know, because typically if you are 351 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: going to work with the coach that costs a lot 352 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: of money, I need to see a direct return. So 353 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: for example, the most expensive coach coach I ever used, 354 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: it was expensive. I don't know if I'd ever do 355 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: this again. It was thirty five thousand dollars a month, 356 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: and it wasn't for this one coach. It was for 357 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: it was, yes, this one coach that coached myself and 358 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: my co founder, but he also had a financial coach 359 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: come coach my financial team, a marketing coach to coach 360 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: my marketing team, an HR coach, So he came with 361 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: a team of coaches that coach all of my teams. 362 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: You know, so you got for thirty five thousand dollars 363 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: a year a month, I'm sorry that's what you got. 364 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: But it was excellent because our first year working with him, 365 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: we went from I don't know, maybe four or five 366 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: million dollars a year to ten million dollars that year. 367 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: So you know that, cause what is thirty five thousand 368 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: many times twelve months. 369 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: Don't get to meet oion a lot of money. 370 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: Five thousand dollars times twelve months. 371 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: Thirty times twelve was thirty six three hundred and sixty 372 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: thousand dollars or something three. 373 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was a lot. But like I said, 374 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: we the investment was three hundred and sixty but. 375 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: I could at the time business one hundred and twenty 376 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. First of all, that is such an unfair 377 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: math question to just ask someone what makes you think 378 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: I know how to calculate twelve times thirty five? 379 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: For us, it was worth it. 380 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: On the spot, like I'm the calculator. 381 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: He doubled our revenue from like four or five million 382 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: to like ten million. But do you see? So it's 383 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: like we paid basically half a million to make five 384 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: or six millions. So, but that is not the only 385 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: way I could have gotten there. One. We were already 386 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: a profitable company many years in business, and I vetted him, 387 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: vetted and vetted him because if I was going to 388 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: spend that kind of money, I wanted to know did 389 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: you use it? You use it? So do you see 390 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: what I mean? I could not have made that bet 391 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: early on in my career, you know. So I'm just 392 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: saying all that to say that I believe in coaching. 393 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm not mad that if a really good coach charges 394 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: a lot of money because they've been vetted. But it's 395 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: not a place to start, you know, not when there's 396 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: so many free resources where you can lean in and 397 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: exhaust those places first. 398 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will double triple endorse what Tiffany just said, 399 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: because I have a couple of my in my community, 400 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: maybe money makers have said that they have used like 401 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: local real estate Facebook groups and local is really important, 402 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: like you said, because you understand like real estate in 403 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: every city, county, state has like different rules different of course, 404 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: like different markets. There's like the mini markets within the market, 405 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: within the national market, and so yeah, I just love 406 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: that and I feel like that's a perfect place to start. 407 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Is just like go sit at a table with other 408 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: people doing what you want to do and just be 409 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 2: a sponge and soak that up. 410 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: I put it to work because people be like they 411 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: buy the thinger you don't even you ain't even start 412 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: you learn the thing. 413 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: I know, it feels like you've done something. It drives 414 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: me nuts if I see someone just buy my my 415 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: professional branding course and then not like complete the modules, 416 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm just like, can I creepily email it and be like, 417 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: what aren't you Dren? 418 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: You paid his money. 419 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: I made it for you to use. 420 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we hope those questions helped you. If they did, 421 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: tele a friend, tele a friends share this EPI, Okay, 422 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: have you have questions? Go ahead on over to Brand 423 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: and Vision Podcasts. 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