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Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is November twenty ninth, just

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Speaker 1: about eleven twenty am Pacific time. I'm here with DeMarco

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Speaker 1: far our producer Matt Is behind the camera and DeMarco.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are now eight and three after a twenty

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Speaker 1: six to twenty victory over the New Orleans Saints on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: first time to eight wins since two thousand and six?

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Speaker 1: Has it been that long? It's been that long? Is

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Speaker 1: that eleven years? Yeah? Yeah? Or this is the eleventh

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Speaker 1: season or ten? No, this would be the eleventh, the

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Speaker 1: eleventh either way, ten or eleven. That's that's a long time.

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Speaker 1: But congratulations, are you doing the math right now? It's

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Speaker 1: actually twelve? It's twelve? Okay, twelve years. Even worse, there's

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Speaker 1: a sixth grader that doesn't know the Rams with eight wins,

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Speaker 1: right or something like that. Well, I'm trying to think

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Speaker 1: of how old was I in two thousand and let's

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Speaker 1: get into age, because it's gonna come to me and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start fighting. It ain't nothing but a number

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Speaker 1: DeMarco around middle school, especially when or younger. Anyways, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was middle school for me, middle school. Okay, well, no,

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Speaker 1: it's tremendous achievement by this this group, this coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: the players. They've earned it, they've worked for it. You

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Speaker 1: had to go through New Orleans at home. Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: was not going to give that up. Easy. Tell me

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Speaker 1: your heart didn't stop on that last onside kick? Oh

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Speaker 1: it did? Yeah? Yeah, because look, I mean we've seen

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Speaker 1: on sidekicks be recovered before in this season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about that San Francisco game, right or you the

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Speaker 1: defense still had to come out on into the field

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Speaker 1: and and seal everything for the victories. So yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was a big onside kick recovery. Yeah, I'm just thinking

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Drew Brees. They went through this the week

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Speaker 1: before and they actually won the game versus Washington, so

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Speaker 1: here we go again. But yeah, I mean, great victory

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Speaker 1: for the football team. Talking to some of the guys

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Speaker 1: in the locker room about you know, that magic number

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Speaker 1: of eight, they were happy they acknowledged it, which I

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Speaker 1: thought was cool, and then they immediately went to there's

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Speaker 1: more out there for us. So yes, I think this

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Speaker 1: is they have the right mentality and the right mindset,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting your eight victory. No, i'd agree. And

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Speaker 1: that's sort of the same impression that I got from

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Speaker 1: talking to guys in the locker room too, specifically Roger Safil,

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Speaker 1: who he's been here the longest. Yeah, right, exactly, And

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Speaker 1: that's what I've said, you know, you've been here as

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Speaker 1: long as anybody. How do you feel about getting eight wins?

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Speaker 1: And he said, well, it's nice, but that we have

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Speaker 1: to He's like, I'm happy, it's stupendous, but we got

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Speaker 1: we got more. Yeah, I've got to go back and

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Speaker 1: get back in the lab and get ready for next week.

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Speaker 1: And so it's just this mentality right now that yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean eight wins is nice, you have to get

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Speaker 1: you have to have eight to get to nine. Is

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Speaker 1: sort of like the impression that I've gotten. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like getting to your eighth win in the last game

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Speaker 1: of the year, I mean that would be cause for

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Speaker 1: a party, I mean right, yeah, like thinking about twenty fifteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know where you went on the three game win streak,

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Speaker 1: and then there was that chance to get to eight

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Speaker 1: wins for the first time since two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: We would have parted like rock stars, right absolutely. Then

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Speaker 1: you laid the egg against San Francisco. Let's not bring

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Speaker 1: that up. But yeah, I mean quarterback is playing this week.

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Speaker 1: You're up to eight wins and you still have five

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Speaker 1: to go, so there's a lot less left out there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, good job by the team, great

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Speaker 1: job of the coaching staff. And you can tell through

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Speaker 1: the players that this team is focused, and they're focused

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Speaker 1: with one voice and that Sean McVay. Yeah, And you

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Speaker 1: can tell that because the players start to kind of

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Speaker 1: pair it what he says, you know, and I think

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this before, but it's just the fact

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Speaker 1: of the matter is where you see in the postgame

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Speaker 1: speech if you watch that on the ram's website here,

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Speaker 1: that he says basically, Okay, you know, it's a great win,

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Speaker 1: and now we've got to go. He immediately says, and

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Speaker 1: now we've got to go face a divisional opponent in

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and da da da da da. And

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Speaker 1: it's not like they're taking time to I don't know,

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Speaker 1: revel in the victory too much, like obviously you're going

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Speaker 1: to celebrate a win as you should. You ought to

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Speaker 1: celebrate everyone. You get right, they're only sixteen, but it's

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Speaker 1: only they're only sixteen games, I should say, but there's

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Speaker 1: always this. Yeah, we're celebrating, but we know we've got

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Speaker 1: to get right back to work because there's more work

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Speaker 1: to do. Yes, yeah, I mean, and there is. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was funny right after the New Orleans game on Monday,

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Speaker 1: I do a radio hit for LA Sports Radio in

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Speaker 1: the morning, and the first thing they want to talk

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Speaker 1: about is Philadelphia, right right, WHOA, you have to respect

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Speaker 1: your opponent. You have Arizona, So I said, you want

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Speaker 1: to have some fun as Sean McVay about Philadelphia right now?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, see how far you get with that. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: please lob a Philadelphia question about that right now when

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Speaker 1: he's got Arizona coming up. So yeah, I mean, keeping focus,

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Speaker 1: respect your opponent. We all know there's a Titanic matchup

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Speaker 1: down the road, but Arizona is up first and they're

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Speaker 1: looking better, right. And that's the other thing that Staffold

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Speaker 1: told me after the game. Look, you've got an Arizona

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Speaker 1: team that you know it's going to be a dog fight.

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Speaker 1: You're going to their place, and he said, they know

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Speaker 1: us as well as we know them. So yes, that

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Speaker 1: that makes it all the more intriguing. I guess for

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Speaker 1: this matchup, and Blaine Gabbert thinks he can beat you

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Speaker 1: because he's done it. He's done it, he's done it.

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Speaker 1: We've seen good case, good Case Keenum beat you in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Well we're seeing good Blaine Gabbert right now. So that's

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Speaker 1: probably going to carr over and look, they still have

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Speaker 1: some good pieces, so we'll get into that absolutely. But

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Speaker 1: let's let's start um with the Rams defense and the

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Speaker 1: way that they came Bain. Yeah. Yeah. The way they

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Speaker 1: contain Drew Brees and that offense I thought was really

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Speaker 1: really good, especially because if you look at Drew Brees's stats,

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Speaker 1: he basically had one hundred and sixty one yards passing

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Speaker 1: before New Orleans final drive where they had to go Um,

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Speaker 1: you have the wrong game book. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I know. Why are you calling me out? Man? I

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Speaker 1: could have got to it anyway. You could have gotten

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Speaker 1: to it. But I was trying to help. Loves to

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Speaker 1: call me out. I do because you call me out

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Speaker 1: so often, like I gotta get it. If it's for

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Speaker 1: a game book, then that's fine. But anyway, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you were just I was trying to be helpful. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Most things you can blame on concussions too, so he

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Speaker 1: kind of has to that's you've used, you have used.

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Speaker 1: I had not used concussions, Yes, you have, I have

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Speaker 1: not used. Well, I can't roll the tape. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would love ever the concussion argument use and if

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Speaker 1: I did, I can't remember. Anyway. My points that the

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Speaker 1: defense prior to that final drive, and you don't want

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees to just go down the field the way

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Speaker 1: they did. Breeze head was six for six eighty five

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Speaker 1: past to Camaro. Yeah, but with two twenty seven left

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Speaker 1: the way the Rams defense was so effective throughout the

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Speaker 1: entire game, just you know, special teams and the offense

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Speaker 1: also helped the defense. But when you limit Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: to fifty two plays, I mean that's that is winning defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and three of thirteen on third down, I mean that's huge.

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Speaker 1: That means you're getting off the field. Drew Brees and

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks like him can't hurt you from the bench, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's not just defense. I mean, it's important for

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Speaker 1: the defense to get out on third down, but it's

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Speaker 1: also important for the offense, your offense to stay on

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Speaker 1: the field and blee clock. So we talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean you you ruled absolutely dominated in time of

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Speaker 1: possession almost thirty seven minutes, thirty six minutes. Yeah, thirty

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Speaker 1: seven minutes, thirty six minutes um. I mean that's that's

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Speaker 1: the anatomy of beating elite quarterbacks um, and and building

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Speaker 1: your own elite quarterback at the same time. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tremendous effort. I thought the tackling was outstanding. I thought

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Speaker 1: the hitting was even better. Blake Countess, who knew, has

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Speaker 1: become an assassin in the backfield. Yeah, another guy, and

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Speaker 1: this is what I like. Well, you got the one

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get fine for that. Yeah. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: a hell of a shot. But yeah, other than that,

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Speaker 1: a couple of big hits, even better tackles, great positioning.

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Speaker 1: I mean LaMarcus Joiner, John John Johnson and and Blake

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Speaker 1: Countess back there. I mean, played great football against a

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Speaker 1: so it tells you what type of game you were

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Speaker 1: actually in and who you were playing against. But I

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Speaker 1: thought they they played a tremendous game against the Saints.

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Speaker 1: One guy you didn't mention in the secondary is Cavon Webster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton eventually said, Okay, I'll take the field goal here,

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Speaker 1: because if Webster is playing, that's solid tackling. The game

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Speaker 1: the break to get there to recognize the play what

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Speaker 1: they were trying to do. It was a modified pick.

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Speaker 1: They tried to run the tight end I believe into

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Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joiner to make Avon Webster have to bubble around

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Speaker 1: of guys made some great open field tackles. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: they don't make those plays, that game is different. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: showing up big in key situations. And that is situational football, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you need. I mean, Wade Phillips always

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Speaker 1: things like that, but points are the most important thing

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Speaker 1: that the Rams defense cannot let up. And if you

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Speaker 1: look at it right now, the Rams are seventh in

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Speaker 1: the league. They're giving up about eighteen point seven points

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Speaker 1: per games, so they're in the top ten in that category,

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Speaker 1: and they're in the top ten in scoring. So that

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Speaker 1: I think tells you basically, you know, you want to say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's so different with the Rams this Those are two

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Speaker 1: very quantifiable reasons. You're you're second in the league in

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Speaker 1: Kamara does because he is a special kind of player. Yes,

425
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Speaker 1: forcing the matchups they want and then getting the ball

426
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Speaker 1: to him early where he has a chance to make

427
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: a move. Right, Yeah, there's not going to be anybody

428
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, regardless of alkalaids or what

429
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: they're doing now, that's going to be able to tackle

430
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 1: him in space one on one. No, not right now,

431
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: not right now at all. No. No. And what I

432
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: thought though the Rams did a good job of was

433
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: containing the run game kind of after that one play.

434
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 1: And I don't so something I don't really like to

435
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 1: do this the other than that, Missus Lincoln, how was

436
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 1: the play a kind of deal? But you did have

437
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: Kamara carry it four times or thirteen yards after that

438
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 1: or aside from that one play where he goes down

439
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 1: the sideline for seventy four and then mark Ingram had

440
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: eleven carries for thirty one yards. So you did do

441
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: a good job, yes, and you know mark Ingram is

442
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: a good back. You took thunder part of that right field,

443
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 1: Yes you did. And it was basically one run that

444
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: they popped off and then that was kind of it.

445
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: It was reminded me of the Jacksonville game in that way,

446
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: and it was similar. If you had guys stay in

447
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: their gaps up front, then Alvin Kamara doesn't get out

448
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: for that long ry. Same thing in Jacksonville. You make

449
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: one mistake and away you go, and it's early, it is,

450
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: and then you sew it up after. So yeah, I mean,

451
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: I love the way the defense responds to long runs.

452
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: They don't break when when teams break long runs against them.

453
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: But I wish you would take the field like you

454
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: already have the momentum. Yeah, so you don't have the

455
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: long runs the pop. The thing that was I mean

456
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: a bit ironic to me about that seventy four yard

457
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: run is that it came right after they stuffed mark

458
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: Ingram for one yard. You know, And we talked about

459
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 1: this last week how New Orleans flips running backs basically

460
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: on every play they go all right, Ingram, you get

461
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 1: one thing, you get one Kamara and you get one

462
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Ingram and you it's like Oprah, you know true, I

463
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: like it. I see where you're going with that. Yeah,

464
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: I heard that the over thing. But I mean, look,

465
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: if you got a mark Ingram or a bigger back

466
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: or a bigger back that you know that's that's not

467
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: the change of pace guy. This is the bigger back.

468
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: You may have a tendency to play those blocks a

469
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: little slower upfront because you have the ability to come

470
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: back and make it because he's not that fast. Well,

471
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: they'll slip the other back end. He's a change of

472
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: pace guy. You're same read is too late now, Yeah,

473
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: you can't get back out because he's gone. So that's

474
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: one of those things you take to the bench and go,

475
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: it's my fault. I understand. It will never happen again.

476
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: And it didn't for the rest of the game, right,

477
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: And it was fortunate because the Rams were leading already.

478
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: They showed that they could move the ball get first

479
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 1: downs against the Saints defense, and it happened because you

480
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: got some good contributions by wide receivers not named Robert Woods.

481
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: And that was obviously a big storyline going into this

482
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: game that Robert Wood's going to be out your most

483
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: productive receiver. He's out for probably, but McVeigh has termed

484
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Whether that's two, three weeks, we

485
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know, right, If you did get contributions from Cup,

486
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: from Watkins and from Josh Reynolds that I thought were

487
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 1: really key in winning this game, I was so like

488
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: happy for Reynolds and excited for the future with him.

489
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: And I don't mean like next year. I mean the

490
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: next five games. Even when Robert Woods comes back. You

491
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: got problems if they want to go for wides. You

492
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: might not have four corners. Yeah, yeah, you're you're you're

493
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: CB four better be pretty good because it seems like

494
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds has had enough time to get acclimented with

495
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: the playbook, and he's got athletic ability and he's the

496
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: tallest receiver of the Rams. Hat is yeah, and that

497
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: that's a scary proposition. But Sammy Watkins coming through, we knew, look, look,

498
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: they were shorthanded at corner, so the game was going

499
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: to go to him in certain situations, and I was

500
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: just going to see if they're gonna be able to

501
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: stop him on slants. He caught an early slant, then

502
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: he caught another slant and yeah, so no, they weren't

503
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: going to be able to stop him that day, so

504
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: which which gave Jared Goff more advantages offensively, which opened

505
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: things up. So um, that was big Cooper Cup. I

506
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: expect this weekend and week out out of him. Maybe

507
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: not one hundred and sixteen, but that sort of impact.

508
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: I expect that out of him every single week. That's

509
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: why he's been a starter since day one. Yes, yeah,

510
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: it is why. And you know, going back to Watkins, Um,

511
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: he had four receptions eighty two yards, two of them

512
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: on that on that first drive, but he also had

513
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: those two defense of past interference, the interference penalties that

514
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: he drew right on downfield routes. So Goff was saying

515
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: after the game, how Watkins does so many things that

516
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily see and those things that come through

517
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: that you know don't you don't see him in the

518
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: box score, but there are things that the team notices.

519
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know that this is exactly what he

520
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: was talking about, but I think it's one of them,

521
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons why the Rams were

522
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of the fact that they that

523
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints did not have their top two

524
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: corners in there, right. And look, once Sammy Watkins gets

525
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: positioned on you, you've got and the balls in the air.

526
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: And this is where it's up to Jared Goff to

527
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: put the ball in the air in a position where

528
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: it puts that dB at a critical decision point. Do

529
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: I go through him to make the play or do

530
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: I let him catch it and just tackle him. Yeah,

531
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: And most dbs will try to make a play on

532
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: the ball and it's up to the receiver to force

533
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: the contact, either make the catch or get the penalty.

534
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: So I remember watching this is watching Megatron when m

535
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson when he was when he was at his best,

536
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: when the Rams would take teams up there to play him,

537
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: and it would be so frustrating because we're talking Sean Hill.

538
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: And I've got respect for Shan Hill as a quarterback,

539
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: but we saw Sean Hill enough to we're never going

540
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 1: to confuse him with a lead. But it wasn't the

541
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: past or the accuracy. It's just when he threw it

542
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: and where he threw it, right, It just forced dbs

543
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: to go through Calvin Johnson. I'm like this guy's not

544
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: that good. But then you go back and think, well,

545
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: he's always in position. Yeah, you've got you've got to

546
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: make a choice, go through him or let him catch it, Sammy.

547
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: It presents that same sort of problem for dbs. Get

548
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: to the point jerk got puts it where it needs

549
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: to be, and then go up and try to catch it.

550
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: If not, it's going to be a PI more often

551
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: than not. So you get those chunk plays. I can

552
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: care less if he comes down with it, but you

553
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: get those chunk plays for your offense, it's going to

554
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: help you exactly. I'm the one, the only one criticism.

555
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: I think you can love you against Watkins in this game.

556
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's more I don't know. But when he's

557
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: on the field and then he tries to make the

558
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: one handed grab like he's try he said after the game,

559
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: I was trying to get on Sports Center and then

560
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: he basically just hands the way you did in New

561
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. Yeah yeah, not top ten and you got

562
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: top ten. You accomplished your mission. Yeah yeah, just not

563
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: in the in the way you wanted. I get it.

564
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Those things happen, man, and he's trying to make a

565
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: play and they were in the right position, so be it. Yeah, right,

566
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: And and the defense, I think you got to give

567
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: credit to them for coming out basically after that, after

568
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: that giveaway and then they forced the three and out.

569
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: This is funny when you're taking the field after an

570
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: interception as a defender, it depends on what type of

571
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: pick it is as to how you're going to play.

572
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: It's weird. I know. I mean, you're gonna play as hard.

573
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: What do you mean as you're going to play? If

574
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: that's your quarterback's third pick and he threw it right

575
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: into another guy, like just a bad ball. Yeah, you're

576
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: walking out in shock, Like, oh my god, what are

577
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: we doing? Are you in shock? Or are you just

578
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: pied both? Yeah? Like what he's doing. Because if it's

579
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: the third pick, Like, are you really in shock at that?

580
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm defending a madman over here? How many snaps are

581
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: we gonna have to play because of you? But if

582
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: it's if it's one of these plays where a guy's

583
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: trying to make a play and it just bounces to them, Hey,

584
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: so be it. We'll get the ball back for you. Yeah,

585
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: because more often than not, we're gonna catch that. Sammy's

586
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: gonna catch that and it's a big play for us,

587
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: so we can defend that. Yeah, the ones where he's

588
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: thrown it to everybody, Yeah, that's what it's like. Okay,

589
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: look man, what are we doing? What is it that

590
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: you want? Right? Right? Right? So you can live with that. Um.

591
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Cooper Cup too, because

592
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: there was a play that he made and you know,

593
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: they call it toe drag swag now, which I probably

594
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't say. Let's be honest, we can just call it

595
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: a toe drag. Yeah, tiptoe catch on the Sideline's going

596
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: to leave that alone? Go ahead, all right? Yeah? Um? Anyway,

597
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: but it was second down and Golf was rolling to

598
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: is right. I know, I'm embarrassing. Golf was rolling to

599
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: his right and he hits Cooper Cup on what turned

600
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: into an off schedule play. And I don't think this

601
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: is a play that is maybe caught in enough attention

602
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: because Cooper Cup was able to really just stay on

603
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 1: his tippy toes, drag those toes and make sure that

604
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: he got that ball secured before he went out of bounds.

605
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: And that was a really big play because it's set

606
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: up a third and short that the Rams then converted

607
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: so again, there's a lot of things that we can

608
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: talk about. I think with Cooper Cup and the way

609
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: he played in this game. That the fifty three yard

610
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: catch down the left sideline, that was really good. This

611
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: is what I That's what I want to know, because

612
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: I think Vicaro lost that in the sun, he said.

613
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: I saw a comment from him after the game or

614
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: when he was in New Orleans or something earlier this

615
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: week where he said, he did lose that in the sun.

616
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: And it's happened a couple of times go in that

617
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: direction on that sideline in that stadium. Huh, yeah, it's happened.

618
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: I think it happened a couple of times last year.

619
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't recall last year, to be honest. I can

620
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: go all the way back to Lance Cabricks dropping one

621
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: in the end zone looking back that way, and you

622
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: lose it in the sun. But how did Cup find it?

623
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: He knew it was coming. He might not be from

624
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: this planet. If Vacaro lost it in the sun and

625
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: you didn't and still caught it, what the heck's gone on?

626
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: And I mean the other thing that happened there was

627
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: Cup beat Vicar off the line. True, very well, right,

628
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: he did he's ahead, he's but Vacaro's got pretty good

629
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: makeup speed. I think if he saw that, like the

630
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: flight to the football, he closes, but he lost it

631
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: completely and almost stopped running. Right, But how do keep

632
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: up with us? Yeah, it's amazing, amazing play. That was

633
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: a really good play. But then Josh Reynolds too. I

634
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: think you're right that the Rams have a good problem

635
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: with him now emerging as another wide receiving target. I

636
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: remember sitting in the draft room when the Rams selected

637
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds and Eric Yarber wide receivers. Coach was extremely

638
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: excited about getting him on this team, and he basically said, man,

639
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: we just gotta Steele. He kept repeating it as he's

640
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: like walking around, and he said that, you know, the

641
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: things that Josh Reynolds showed at Texas A and M

642
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: as a college player really looked like they can translate

643
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: to the NFL. And so I just remember how excited

644
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: he was to get um Yarbor was to get Reynolds

645
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: in the building, and Reynolds like a true wide receiver.

646
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking to him on the conference call

647
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I probably expected to go higher

648
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: than this, but you know it's gonna be everybody else's problem. True.

649
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: So now I think we're really starting to see all

650
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: these things. It's kind of come to fruition. And boy,

651
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: if the Rams can continue to get him involved, that's

652
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really fun to watch. And you have

653
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: you have to account for him defensively now because it's

654
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: on tape. Yeah, so imagine when Robert Woods comes back, right,

655
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: because I bet you you're building a file against the

656
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: Rams how to stop the Rams, and at some point

657
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: before he got hurt, I bet most of that centered

658
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: around stopping Robert Woods. So we can't single him up.

659
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Let's make sure we have a safety rolled over the

660
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: top to protect. Well. Now, when you've got Reynolds and

661
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, you might not be able to double Woods

662
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: as much, which you mean Cooper Cup. You'll get more

663
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: production out of him, so absolutely, Yeah. I mean the

664
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: thing that gets me about Reynolds when you see these

665
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: guys get on the bus and we're down there in

666
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: the hotel, when I can see him behind the lineman. Yeah,

667
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I can still see the top of his head behind

668
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. That's good, Yes, that's what you want. That's

669
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: really good. He's every bit of six foot three. You

670
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: can't miss him going down the field. If you're Jared Goff,

671
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: a tall quarterback with a tall receiver, well that helps.

672
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: How many six foot corners are out there? Not that man?

673
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: I think the Rams have two of them? Yeah, yeah,

674
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: so how many are left? Right? Yeah? At some point

675
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a size matchup that you can take

676
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: advantage of. What I have liked about Reynolds since he

677
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: got to the Rams and you know, seeing him rookie

678
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: camp and then training camp, he always uses his full

679
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: body and his full length to get two footballs. You know,

680
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: he catches with his hands. He goes up and tries

681
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: to make catches very well. It's not like he's just

682
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: catching with the body no time, like we've seen from

683
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: some six foot three wide receivers. He does a great

684
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: job and he's working on at snatching with his hands. Yeah.

685
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: And it's not just the up. It's not the up

686
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: is good. I mean he's tall and he can go up.

687
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: That speaks for itself. What I do like is the

688
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: ones on the low ball. You can throw it low

689
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: and away and he can also lay out to get

690
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: it right. And he's six foot five this way, seven

691
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: feet going this way, if he jumps, if he gets

692
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: a good enough break on the football, who knows how

693
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: far and how wide that catch radius is. But there's

694
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: a lot of things that the Rams are giving you

695
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: that you have to worry about defense. We know, yeah,

696
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: and that just is only going to help them coming up.

697
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: But speaking of receivers, the Rams threw it a lot

698
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: in this game, and forty four passing attempts to effectively

699
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: twenty two rushing attempts. Its final stats sheet says twenty five,

700
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: but three of those were golf kneel downs I think

701
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: in this particular game. And McVeigh has said this that

702
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: they wanted to throw the football because they felt like

703
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: that would be the best way of moving the ball,

704
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: moving the chains, which I understand when you've got a

705
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: team that has two of its top cornerbacks out. But

706
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: at the same time, that's a lot of throwing to

707
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: not as much running. What did you think of the

708
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: sort of run pass breakdown, Well, Number one, I'm interested.

709
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: I was interested to see what would happen to this

710
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: Rams offense if a big piece of their production was

711
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: taken away. The Saints is a great job taking away

712
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: the screen game. So how do you compensate for that?

713
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: What plays can you come up with to compensate for

714
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: a defense that's really locking down on screens? And you

715
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: saw some of that intermediate passing stuff come into play. Yeah,

716
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: I think that's how some of those sideline routes came

717
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: into that became open because they were doing such a

718
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: great job watching for those screens. But yeah, at some point,

719
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, defenses will pick and choose. We're just not

720
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna let Todd Gurley beat us today, So we're gonna

721
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: load the box. We're gonna force Jared Goff to throw

722
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: the ball forty times. Let's see if he can win. Well,

723
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Jared Goff keeps proving that he can. He's pretty accurate,

724
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: and when you do get pressure, he's pretty mobile in

725
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: the pocket, so he keeps turning back those challenges. At

726
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: some point you're gonna have to loosen up and worry

727
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: about Goff, which will open up the running game as well.

728
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: So it's just that chess match that they're playing. And

729
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Sean McVay right now is just one step ahead. He's

730
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: been one step ahead throughout the year, and that's why Goff.

731
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: We had three hundred and fifty four yards passing two touchdowns,

732
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: one interception, which we talked about, not entirely on the quarterback,

733
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: but I think we just continue to see Jared Goff

734
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of grow up, you know, make good decisions, make

735
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: good accurate throws. Got four sacks. One of those is

736
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: on the play where he was rolling. I guess it

737
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: was he evaded the pocket, rolled it to his right,

738
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: I think, and then he stepped out of bounds. Basically,

739
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't know a two inches behind where the line

740
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: of scrimmage was, So that's a sack. So expectively, Yeah, yeah,

741
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I know, defeni Oh my god, did I politic for those? Oh? Yeah?

742
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: They all count? Anyway, go ahead, how many? How many?

743
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you, No, I want to

744
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: know how many sacks do you think you got on

745
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: guys running out of bounds in front of you? Oh?

746
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I can two? Okay, yeah? Two? Yeah, okay too. I

747
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure you have to make sure you

748
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: get those because you're your your teammates, we'll take them

749
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: from you. Yeah. I mean when you see a quarterback

750
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: anglay not of bounds, and you know what it is,

751
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: it's a race to get there because the first guy

752
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: that's out of bounds with them gets the sack. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

753
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: you'll see guys turn on the jets for that man.

754
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's money involved. Yeah oh no, absolutely, every sack,

755
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: like every interception like these are millions of dollars for you.

756
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: If I set a bag of money at the end

757
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: of the hallway and said, you know, win or take all,

758
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: how fast do you think you're running. I'm running pretty fast.

759
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: Same thing with a quarterback. That's the money, go get Yeah. Um, So,

760
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: because the Rams threw it a lot, you only saw

761
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: seventeen carries for Todd Gurley, and in a game like this,

762
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: I actually thought Todd Gurley would be more involved in

763
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: the run game. But right as you're looking at the

764
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: stat sheet, where are you going with it? Well, I

765
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: mean seventeen rush attempts for Todd they were twenty nine total, right,

766
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: well minus three yes, excuse me, twenty two. Well, I mean,

767
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: I mean it looks Tavon had I thought he had

768
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: a fantastic day. He thought he had a fantastic day.

769
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I do. I think the fact that he's out there

770
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: and the decoy that he presents, even when he gets

771
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: the football and end the rounds, Um, you still have

772
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: to defend that. And he got around a few times.

773
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: He did get around a few times, and he but

774
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: he really makes those defensive ends hold their place for

775
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: a half second if you look. I mean, he had

776
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: five rushes for seventeen yards, He had a ten yard

777
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: long on a carry. He all so took some negative plays.

778
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: And he also had three receptions for minus one yard.

779
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: So you're basically what you're saying, eight receptions sixteen yards

780
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: is not representative. Excuse me. Eight touches sixteen yards is

781
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: not representative of what he was doing as a whole.

782
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Correct And and let's be honest, the Rams didn't capitalize

783
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: with the run game, no, with Tavon being out there,

784
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: because the CounterPunch to Tavon is Todd Gurley on the cutback. Yes,

785
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: so some of that did not happen. Now, play calling wise,

786
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: whatever the situation was or whatever New Orleans was giving

787
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: the offense, that that change plays into past plays. We

788
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: just talked about that. But um, I think that some

789
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: of these rush attempts could have gone to Todd and

790
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: not just the end a round stuff the true running

791
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: back in the dot behind the quarterback. Let's take it

792
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: between the tackles. Some of those could have been Todd's

793
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: carries as well. Yes, yeah, so that was my impression too, right, right,

794
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: So I think there could have been more rush attempts

795
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: for him. They split it up for whatever reason. But

796
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I think Tavon's ability and his approach to the offense

797
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: and what he does to a defense, I think they

798
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: actually got what they wanted. They just didn't capitalize on

799
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: it playwise. Interesting, Yeah, I know you you talked to

800
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Sean McVay during the Coaches Show about sort of that

801
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: double pass at the end, yeah, of the game. What

802
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: was his thinking on that? Well, you're up ten at

803
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: that moment, right, so that's a drive to where you're

804
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: trying to ice the game. You've got a chance to

805
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: hit them big. If you go up seventeen. I wouldn't

806
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: say the game's over, but it's closer to being over.

807
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: It puts more pressure on Drew Brees. It makes them

808
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: one dimensional. When you're down by seventeen points, you might

809
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: be able to take away maybe a mark ingram. He's

810
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: out of the offense now, Yamara is always going to

811
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 1: be in your offense, but maybe you have a chance

812
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: to make them a little more one dimensional. So in

813
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: that situation, if you can hit him trying to be

814
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: aggressive with they what they think is a receiver sweep

815
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, they may attack harder and you'll get a

816
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: guy open deep. It just they didn't buy it. They're

817
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: a smarter defense than the playhole. So I mean, smart

818
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: play by Cooper Cup to ground the football. Yeah, maybe

819
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: you'd like to see him eat the football, keep the

820
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: clock moving because the clock is your friend friend at

821
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: that time. But it's a big play. You're trying to

822
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: hit them big for a big play. It did not happen.

823
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: Give them credit for defending it. I'll tell you this

824
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: one thing. The thing it really reminded me of was

825
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: the Willie Sneed throw last year. You thought it was

826
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: a revenge play. I didn't think it was necessarily revenge play,

827
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: but I thought that that could be in the back

828
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: of somebody's mind, even though McVeigh wasn't here, like none

829
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: of this coaching staff basically was there. Yeah, but you know,

830
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I got you right. I mean, it's one of those

831
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: look as a defense, if you're not prepared for it,

832
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: or if you're just defending things by rote, you're gonna

833
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: get hit by it. Yeah, so the way they were

834
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: attacking screens and perimeter runs, it's a natural progression to

835
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: try that play. They were just a little smarter on

836
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: it than the Rams were running the play. Yeah, that's

837
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: pretty apparent. So one thing for an injury update, do

838
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: you know Connor Barwin probably gonna be out for a

839
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: couple year broken arm, Yes, which is unfortunate because of

840
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: what he is to this defense. I mean, he's another

841
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: guy we talked about Robert Woods a lot last week,

842
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: is being one of the big leaders of the unit,

843
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: leader of the wide receiver room. Well, Connor Barwin, you've

844
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: got another veteran guy who's been around the block, he's

845
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: been to the postseason, knows what these things are all about.

846
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: And now you're not going to have him in there

847
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. What it does present, though,

848
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: as an opportunity for Sampson Abucom to get on the

849
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: field and to show what he can do a little

850
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, and that could affect, you know a

851
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: few things, because you know Eblcom is a is a

852
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: contributor on special teams. So if he has to start

853
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: and play max numbers on defense, you might have to

854
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: lose them on special teams, or maybe they did bring

855
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: that up earlier this week. Or you're a rookie man,

856
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do double duty. It sucks for you,

857
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: but that's just the way it is. Yeah, that's just

858
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: the way it is. Right, you might have to play

859
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: special teams and play defense at at the same time.

860
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: So the thing I like about Connor Barwin is he

861
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: coaches regardless in pads are if he's in the game

862
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: or out of the game, He's always helping the young

863
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: guys get ready. So Abelcam is going to have the

864
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: benefit of great position coaching and a great player coach

865
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: right behind him. That's going to help him get through.

866
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: But even with that, the guy's got some ability to

867
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: get to the passer he does. Yeah, I mean he's

868
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: come along really, really well. And we talked about this.

869
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: He's young guys getting reps early. It's only going to

870
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: help you when come December, right when your veterans need,

871
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, some time off or they get hurt. I

872
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: don't think the defense took a backward step once they

873
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: lost Connor Barwin, and I don't really either. That speaks

874
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: to Wade Phillips and the depth and just guys being

875
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: ready for the moment right exactly. Able Com is interesting

876
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: because he's another guy out of Eastern Washington, so he's

877
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: another guy making that FCS to the NFL jump, and

878
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: I think he's done a nice job of it. Particularly

879
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: you look at the sack that he had it. I

880
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: think it shows that he's got some raw talent and

881
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: that he can use that raw talent to get to

882
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But there's also some stuff that I think

883
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: can still be refined with him. Do you abolutely yeah?

884
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's everybody. Everybody's looking to get better. But

885
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: the one thing I do know, and the way they're

886
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: treating him and the way they're coaching him, is they

887
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: give him a set of options per play. This is

888
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: what can hurt you, this is what can't when you

889
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: see this go. And that's what he's doing for the

890
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: most part. So let Wade Phills put you in position

891
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: to be successful and don't do anything outside of that,

892
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: and you'll be fine in the defense. At some point, sure,

893
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to you to make a play.

894
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: It's obvious passing down and you're going against one of

895
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: their better tackles and you're gonna have to win. So

896
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: let's see how you do. And from what we've seen

897
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: so far, I don't think he blinks or shies away

898
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: from anybody in a pass rush. Yeah. Yeah, that's being

899
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: too young to know exactly what you're doing. You don't

900
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: even know the guy you're beating. You don't even know.

901
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: You're too young to beat that guy right now? Good,

902
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: keep doing it? Do you feel that when you're absolutely? Man? Man,

903
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep a job, you know, aren't

904
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: we all? And I remember shouting Gilbert pulls me. This

905
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: is the guy, my veteran, my mentor. Do you know

906
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: who you just beat for a sac? No? Who? Four time?

907
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: All pro? But don't worry about it, you're good. Just

908
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: keep playing. Yeah, I'm like really and then you keep

909
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: going and then you do what together? Yeah? I know

910
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: we're not We're not supposed to look too far ahead. Oh. Actually,

911
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: more injury updates before we get to that. Lance Dunbar

912
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: running back and also Nickell Roby Coleman are expected to

913
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: get back to practice this week, which is good. Yes,

914
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: definitely good. You need those guys for the stretch run.

915
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: People keep asking me what is Lance Dunbar's role on

916
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: the football team. Yeah, if he's healthy. See Alvin Kamara.

917
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Same thing. Yeah, same situation, same problem. Yeah, maybe not

918
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: the same wiggle, but same matchup problem on the backfield,

919
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: you cover him with the wrong guy, gone boom. Yeah.

920
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: And I'll say this though, I think Todd Gurley has

921
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: done maybe a better job than anybody would have anticipated

922
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Yes, this year. Absolutely. I mean

923
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: he's great on screens, he's great with the swingouts. He's

924
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: a running back that can also catch. Yes, m Dunbar

925
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: is a true down back. Right when he's in the game,

926
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: it's passing and if he's not protecting, he's out in

927
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: the route, right, So it depends on what guy is

928
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: over top of him. It will determine his success out there.

929
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, that having him back in the offense is

930
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: only going to help. Absolutely. Before you move on to

931
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: what I was going to talk about, do you want

932
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: to say that Todd Gurley right now second in the

933
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: league with thirteen hundred forty four yards from scrimmage, He's

934
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: behind only Levion Bell and he still leaves the league

935
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: with eleven total touchdowns. So again, like that's what I

936
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: mean I'm saying, Like I think he's better out of

937
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: the backfield than we probably could have anticipated, because he

938
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: is third in the league right now with eight hundred

939
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: and sixty five yards rushing, but he also has set

940
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: a new career high with four hundred and seventy nine

941
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: yards receiving. Yes, and we still got five games. So

942
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: this is the brilliance of the higher ups. And when

943
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: you talk about winning football, because you want to make

944
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: sure that when you do qualify for the postseason, you

945
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: want to make sure he is fresh and ready to go, right, Yeah,

946
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: And that's that's gonna be that's gonna be a task.

947
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: He's still i mean, he's in his third season, so

948
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: he's got fresh ish legs, yes, but still, I mean

949
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: the beating that he takes, you know, consistently, game in

950
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: and game out. That's why you want Lance Dunbar back.

951
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: That's why that's why I'm not upset. Yeah, where you

952
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: still get the win and Nick they brought that up too. Yeah,

953
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: there's sometimes where you still want Todd Gurley's going to

954
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: get a high number of snaps. Yeah. So, and he

955
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: especially because Malcolm Brown Lance Dunbar were out, he was

956
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: in there on a lot of third downs. So that's

957
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: why you kind of when you're taking that kind of beating,

958
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: you you kind of want to balance things out a little.

959
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: But remember, Jared Goff is the first pick in the draft.

960
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: I don't mind leaning on him for forty four pass.

961
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: That's why I drafted him, right, exactly, yeah, exactly. Um. So,

962
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: the one thing that I've said that I don't want

963
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: to look too far ahead, but folks have talked about

964
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: this this week is that the Rams Eagles game, um

965
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: next week is not going to be FLEX is Sunday

966
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Night Football, which I mean some people are disappointed by that.

967
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I think when you have Sunday Night football

968
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: on the West Coast, it still starts at five twenty five,

969
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's that late anyway. But I

970
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: just want to point it out that that game, we

971
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: know now that that game is not going to be FLEX,

972
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: there's still the opportunity for the Rams to play on

973
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. It would be the following week Rams

974
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: at Seattle Seahawks. But that week they also have Patriots

975
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: and Steelers. Yes, who are two very good teams. I

976
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: can only talk about my experience. I'm playing in primetime

977
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: is a blessing and it's an honor. Yeah, it's also rough.

978
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: Why is it's a long time to wait to play ball? Man? Right? Yeah,

979
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. If you can keep it close to what

980
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: you're used to, great. Yeah. If you complete this year,

981
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: if you complete a magical run, then next year you

982
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: won't have to worry about not playing on primetime and

983
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss the schedule. Yes, yeah, yeah. Also, speaking

984
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: of an NFC East team, I do want to mention

985
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: the fact that the Giants have now turned to Geno

986
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: Smith as their starting quarterback. I'm surprised, were you by

987
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: that any and overboard? Wow? It's not his fault. I mean,

988
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a that's a shame that would fall

989
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: on Eli. Right, Yeah, it's not it's not all his fault. Well,

990
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this a couple weeks ago,

991
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: and I remember saying that, I just I thought it

992
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: would be a shame to take that When they're starting

993
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: to talk about taking Eli out. You know, you've got

994
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: a guy who has been a model franchise quarterback for

995
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: that franchise, which every Sunday, right yeah, two hundred and

996
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: ten games starting streak and now it's over because question

997
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: mark question Um, well, I wish I can say I

998
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: don't get the Eli Manning hate. I do, I see it. Yeah,

999
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: but just talking this year, how can you watch the

1000
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Giants on offense and say and say Eli is the problem?

1001
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: I saw on a stat that said that the Giants

1002
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: have the highest number of drops and the highest drop

1003
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: percentage in the league. So when I do hear people

1004
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: start to badmouth Eli Manning, I just tune that out

1005
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: and just kind of walk away from the conversation. Yeah,

1006
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: he might have beat your football team or something, because

1007
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: it's not fair, right, Yeah, that criticism isn't fair, especially

1008
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: this year. Exactly. All right, So let's turn it to

1009
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: this week though, for the Los Angeles Rams, and they

1010
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: are facing the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals are now five

1011
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: and six. They had a pretty decent win over the

1012
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jowl. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, you don't have six

1013
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: losses like they're still still Yeah, you know, you get

1014
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: the graphic like in the Hunt, Yes on t when

1015
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: they show the playoff picture, Yeah, you're five and six,

1016
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: you're still in the hunt. You ever watched slasher films?

1017
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: You know what slasher films are? Like the films were

1018
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: just the guy goes around killing people like Michael Myers,

1019
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Jason Vorhees. No, the answer is no, I don't really

1020
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: watch this Halloween Friday the thirteenth. Okay, Well, in every

1021
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: horror movie, you think the the killer is dead and

1022
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: then you turn around and he's gone. That's the Arizona Cardinals.

1023
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: You thought they were dead after London, and here they

1024
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: are again, and they're playing better football they are than

1025
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: what you saw in London. So yeah, I mean Sean McVay,

1026
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: he coached us out of using the word trap. There

1027
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: are no trap games with their mentality because it's one

1028
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: week at a time. I get that, but for us,

1029
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: this is the trap. This is the very definition of

1030
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: a trap game. Yeah. Because everyone's already talking about Philadelphia,

1031
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: you have Arizona. So I mean that's gonna filter into

1032
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: the locker room, whether you want to or not, you

1033
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: think so, well, Look, look everybody has smartphones, everybody turns

1034
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: on the internet. Yeah, I mean it's gonna especially with

1035
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: everybody talking about the game that like I just did

1036
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: bringing up the game, that's not gonna be flexed right now. Now.

1037
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Everything now, everything goes out the window when you as

1038
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: a player, as a coaching staff sit down and watch Arizona.

1039
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: You have nothing but respect for them, But some of

1040
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: your attention is going to go to Philly because that's

1041
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: where it is in the media. Yeah. Yeah, So I

1042
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: mean that's that's something you're gonna have to guard against

1043
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: and coach against as as a RAMS staff member and

1044
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: a player. Right now, Okay, so thinking about your playing time,

1045
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: then what was the most effective way of doing that?

1046
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like when you're thirteen and three and you're

1047
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: going season where you're thirteen three and obviously you're not

1048
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: thirteen and three until the end of the year, but

1049
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: how do you avoid those kinds of things? Make sure

1050
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: they that you show the players or being shown how

1051
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: how close you were to losing a football game. Yeah,

1052
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean show all the bad stuff you did. Yeah,

1053
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: if you're feeling good about yourself, if you're patting yourself

1054
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: on the back, we'll look at this, this, this, this,

1055
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: and this right it'll refocus you in a heartbeat. Yeah,

1056
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: we were this close to losing this last game. And

1057
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: you can say that because you had you know, Drew

1058
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: Brees go down the field and a very quick amount

1059
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: of time and you were an on side kick away

1060
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: from having to send of the defense out again and

1061
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: then put on a bunch of tapes of Arizona with

1062
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: their five and six record and say, hey, look, they're

1063
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: this close to being seven and whatever, you know, this

1064
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: close to being pretty good. So you can't overlook anybody

1065
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: at this point. We're good, We're eight wins in, but

1066
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: we're not there yet. Good, So there's ways to refocus

1067
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: your football team. But once you leave the building, I mean,

1068
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: you're going to be hit with a bunch of distracting

1069
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: questions about a game that you're not ready to play yet. Yeah. Yeah,

1070
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: it's all about Arizona. It needs to be all about Arizona, right.

1071
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: I wonder if we're here some players this week say,

1072
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's nice, but we're about Arizona this week.

1073
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure you will, yeah, yeah, I'm sure you'll hear

1074
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: something like we're onto Arizona. It's all about Fitzgerald, it's

1075
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: all about Blaine Gabbert. You'll hear like effusive praise for

1076
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: their coaching staff. You'll hear a lot of that stuff

1077
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: because that's what's being taught to them, which means this

1078
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: team is headed in the right direction. Yeah, um, what

1079
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: do you see on film that's different from Arizona this

1080
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: time around. Blaine Gabbert looks really good. He does. He

1081
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: looks really good. I heard Sean McVay say about Blaine Gabbert,

1082
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: he's a natural thrower of the football. And then you

1083
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: go back and watch I mean some of the passes

1084
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: that he lets go. It looks effortless, it does and

1085
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: it gets there in a blank, and he's he's improved

1086
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: his accuracy. Maybe it's the guys he's playing with. Maybe

1087
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: it's he's had time to learn the offense and become acclimated.

1088
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: But those receivers look different around him, and they can

1089
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: still run. The football. Age in Peterson is still there.

1090
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: So this offense presents some issues for you all over

1091
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: the field. One guy that stood out to me in

1092
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville game is their undrafted tight end out of

1093
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: Texas saying and Ricky Seals Jones, and I the first

1094
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: thing I did, the first thing usually do over the

1095
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: course of the week, is I get the game book

1096
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: from the next opponents previous week. And so like Demarker,

1097
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: you can even see this, it's in front of you.

1098
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: You're their leading receiver is Ricky Seals Jones and like

1099
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: you're looking at the wrong page. Now I'm looking at numbers.

1100
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: Look ahead. Yeah, but I'm the thing I'm pointing out

1101
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: to you, Like, yeah, I literally won't who who are you?

1102
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I've never heard of this guy, but like

1103
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, you watch the film and you see that

1104
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: he is a good, productive tight end and Blane Gabbert

1105
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: really kind of seems to trust him. And it's because

1106
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: he's making the catches, he's making plays, and he's getting

1107
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Well that's the thing. I mean, Look,

1108
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: I was taught this a long time ago, and it

1109
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: bears out. For the most part, tight ends are always open.

1110
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean for the most part they are.

1111
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: They're the dual threat block and then seve at the

1112
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: same time. And you know quarterbacks who struggle with accuracy

1113
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: usually they lean on tight ends. It seems like Blaine

1114
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: Gabbert has been doing that. It's the first guy that

1115
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: you can find in a blink to get the ball too.

1116
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: And usually he's in man coverage, so does not shock

1117
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: me at all. Um. And then you'll start to work

1118
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: in passes down the field as you get more confidence.

1119
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: But you know, early in games, I would expect him

1120
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: to lean on tight ends and running backs out of

1121
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: the backfield. When quarterbacks are taught not to make mistakes

1122
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: with the football, those are usually the first guys they find. Yeah,

1123
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: So for Steel's Jones, three touchdowns in the last two games,

1124
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: So definitely somebody that the Rams are going to have

1125
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: to look out for. But Blaine Gabbert has been a

1126
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: Ram killer over the last few years. I mean, if

1127
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: we think about it, you know, thinking about that the

1128
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: game we kind of brought up earlier in twenty fifteen,

1129
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 1: the Rams had a chance to go eight and eight,

1130
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: they go into Santa Clair, app of Valley killed the

1131
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Rams there. Well, yes, the Vineyard Num kidding probably did.

1132
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: But in that game, I mean, Blaine Gabbert his three

1133
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four yards passing threes a touchdown, the

1134
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: Niners win that game in overtime. And then last year

1135
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: you saw Blaine Gabbert, I think, do more things with

1136
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: his FEEDI and nine carries for forty three yards and

1137
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: while throwing for one hundred and seventy yards and a

1138
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: touchdown and the Niners twenty eight to zero victory on

1139
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Well, I mean, did you see Blaine

1140
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Gabert in college in that offense, not really at some

1141
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: point getting that out of here. At some point he

1142
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: ran the football. I mean, so Blaine Gabbert rushing the

1143
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: football doesn't surprise me, right, he he's a pretty good athlete.

1144
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: What did what she wanted in the past was to

1145
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: force Blaine Gabbert to throw right to win, and more

1146
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: often than not you beat him. But you know, at

1147
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: this stage in his career, he's getting better and he's

1148
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: got another opportunity probably with you know, a better supporting

1149
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: cast around him. You know, right situation, right time, guys

1150
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: start to look different, he's starting to look different. Yeah,

1151
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: and you know what, Bruce arians has said that he

1152
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: would be comfortable going into twenty eighteen with Gabert as

1153
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. Why wouldn't you? Yeah, at this point.

1154
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, though, you know, outside linebacker, came over from

1155
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots for Arizona. He's been there for the last

1156
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: couple of years, and he just had an absolute game

1157
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: wrecker game last week. I mean, you look at it.

1158
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: It's six total tackles, five tackles for loss, two sacks,

1159
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: and a past defense. It was ridiculous to see what

1160
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: he was doing. What do we say about guys like

1161
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: him when you watch him play. He's not quick, he's

1162
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: not fast. He's just all of a sudden, like, all

1163
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's over here, all of a sudden,

1164
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: he's on top of your quarterback. Yeah. I mean he's

1165
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: he's very, very good at what he does. And I

1166
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: think he's he has a higher football like you than

1167
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: most people give him credit for because you may think

1168
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: you have him, but he's actually setting you up. Yeah. Yeah,

1169
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: he'll give you the wounded fish or the dead leg

1170
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, yeah, wounded fish, you know,

1171
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: wounded fish. Like he'll just flop around like you have

1172
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: him and then slide behind you and make a play

1173
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: or give you a dead leg. That's the worst looking

1174
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: inside move ever. The dead leg. It's like your leg

1175
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: is dead. It's ugly, right, you know, to show it

1176
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: to me, I don't really. Well, it's just no tackle

1177
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: in the world is going to buy that. Okay, but

1178
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: you have to honor it because he's actually moving inside.

1179
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: But he's setting you up for an outside move, Okay,

1180
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: and he gets it every single time or any time

1181
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: he wants. Yeah, he's he's a he's a matchup problem.

1182
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: He's on his way to setting a new career high

1183
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: in sacks this year. He's already got twelve, had eleven

1184
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: last year, twelve and a half his highest, his highest

1185
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: season total when he went to the Pro Bowl with

1186
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. But yeah, he's and he got

1187
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: a sack earlier this year against the Rams win. We

1188
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: saw him in London. So maybe the best gunfighter in

1189
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: the league. When I mean gunfighter is inside, when you're

1190
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: fighting with hands. Yeah, yeah, that's what they call a gunfight.

1191
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: Whever gets their hands up first, he's gonna win. That's

1192
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: what we used to do, called gunfight. I've never heard that.

1193
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: You've never heard gunfight? Oh I didn't play the events.

1194
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: When you're getting your sense, you're shooting your hands to

1195
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: thee get the quick job. He is faster and better

1196
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: than most ends and most tackles he's playing against. It's

1197
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: really hard to get to that breastplate right on him.

1198
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: He makes it very difficult to get a clean shot,

1199
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: like an Alvin Kamara out of the backfield. He makes

1200
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: it difficult to get a clean shot. Yeah, Chandler Jones

1201
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: makes it almost impossible to get a clean shot on

1202
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: this chest, which means you just can't knock him off

1203
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: his run, right, Yeah, and that's gonna be one of

1204
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: the big keys for the Rams. Can they stop Chandler Jones? Okay,

1205
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: so wacky question time, wacky question. Yeah, for all first

1206
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: time the way, and remember the tape that's going out

1207
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: versus New Orleans, Andrew Whitworth was beaten inside, he was

1208
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan had a great day. He did. So that's

1209
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: a good point. And that's the thing that all defensive

1210
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: linemen feel and follow. When we say good days against

1211
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: we feel we're gonna have a good day. So he's

1212
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: gonna be sky high confidence wise, that's gonna be in it.

1213
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an interesting matchup definitely between Whitworth and Jones,

1214
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: and then also Havens signed and Jones because they do

1215
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: move Jones around. Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, you

1216
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: think there's an opportunity to make a play. Yeah, So

1217
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: you're coming in the game already confident. It's going to

1218
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: be up to you to take it out of him

1219
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: during the game, which is the exact opposite of what's

1220
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: been what it's been like for Whitworth this year. Right now,

1221
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: you guys have gone in knowing they're not gonna win

1222
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: now they think they can't. Yeah, all right, so the

1223
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: wacky question. First, how is your Thanksgiving? Do you have

1224
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: a good Thanksgiving? Outstanding? That's not the wacky question. I'm sorry,

1225
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: great Thanksgiving? How about yours? Miles? Are you reading questions? Mark? No,

1226
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm wondering where you're going with you said wacky question?

1227
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: And then how I know I messed up the delivery? Okay, right,

1228
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: so my Thanksgiving was good. I had a very nice

1229
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: time on Okay, Now, wacky question, yes, okay, So Christmas music?

1230
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: Christmas music? Yes or no? Are you a fan or

1231
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: not a fan? Big fan? Yeah? Yes? What's your favorite

1232
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: Christmas song? H? What's that? Oh? The weather outside is frightful?

1233
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: Let it snow? Let I love that song? Yeah? Yeah,

1234
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: well we're not going to have frightful weather or yeah

1235
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: inside being delightful? If you're a die hard fan that

1236
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: that that song is just etched in your brain forever. Matt,

1237
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: Do you or do you not like Christmas music? I do,

1238
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: but it depends on like it takes me bad, you know,

1239
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 1: to like being comfortable at home and the kid family

1240
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, so I like it, but I can't

1241
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: start listening to it until we get closer to Christmas,

1242
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: because it'll burn me out. See, I like to start

1243
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: listening to it basically day after Thanksgiving or almost on

1244
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: the way home from Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah, like that's when

1245
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: I feel like the Christmas season. So, like, I got

1246
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: home from Thanksgiving dinner and I turned on Andy Williams.

1247
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time of the year, Like I

1248
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: got Crank and Andy. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great song.

1249
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, you get the horns you burned out. Christmas

1250
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: not Christmas. I mean, it's just any song in general.

1251
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: If I start listening to it, if I listened to

1252
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: it for a month straight, I'm gonna be burned out.

1253
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: I'll never but I think it's certainly acceptable for everybody

1254
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: in society. Yeah, it's just a personal way that I

1255
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: I have a Christmas tree. It's just the music. It's

1256
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna be separate. Okay, Okay, that was the wacky question

1257
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: that was about it. Okay, I like I was worried

1258
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: about nothing. No, yeah, probably, Okay, So I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like, um, it's some wonderful time of the year.

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00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: I like, um, that sounds good. Aretha Franklin sings a

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00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: version of Winter Wonderland. Yeah, that is tremendous, right, that's great.

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00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Elephitzgerald's sleigh Ride another one. Yeah, yeah, chest Nuts roasting

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00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: on an open fire. Yeah all right, and then obviously

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00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: it'll make me meet you guys as mics up there.

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00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: I know Aaron Donald. But the greatest Christmas song of

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00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: all time is All I Want for Christmas is You

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00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: by Maria Carry That's the greatest of all time. It's

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: it's in your opinion, Yeah, okay, because there are so

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00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: many Oh, it's so good. I don't get I do

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00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: not get sick of that song. I'll sometimes listen to

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: that song in July. Yeah, I have well, I can't

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00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: go there with it. I mean it's just it's really good.

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00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: So you cannot play that song in July. Sometimes you're

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00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: just like I'm a little down, like I just want

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00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: to hear something to bring me up, and like that's

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00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: a top ten song in my book. I've got to

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: pull list of like all time faves completely. If I

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01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: heard that like banging out of your headphone, here's the

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01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: in your car in July, No, I would leave you.

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01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm not one. I'm not gonna do that. Like in

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01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: the office, or like if I'm with somebody that's like, Okay,

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01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm home and I've got a glass of bourbon. Right,

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01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: I need to officer. He's not threatening, he's not doing

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: anything wrong. He's just blasting right, carry Christmas music in July,

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01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: which is kind of weird. This is number just keep

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: on exactly wow. Right, So we'll go back to football

1287
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: and we will with these the most important thing the

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01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: Rams have to do to beat the Cardinals history. You know,

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01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: do you like you like movies? Love? Actually, I've seen

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01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: that movie. Yeah, the Little Girls at It's a great scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah. She turns around and looks at the kid.

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: That always gives my question next, it always gets me anyway,

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Speaker 1: good okay, yeah, okay. Diehard best Christmas movie of all time.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this last year. I remember that's Christmas.

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: I've never seen die Hard. I've still never seen die Hard. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what's the single having on a film of him giving

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: you die Hard? Don't we? I think we? I don't

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01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: know if it's if we recorded that, but like, yeah,

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01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: like I'm pretty sure you still haven't seen die Hard yet. No, anyway,

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Speaker 1: I like Bruce Willis. He's great. So who is Bruce

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Speaker 1: Willis to you? The guy from pulp fiction? That's Bruce

1302
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: Willis to you? Kind of yeah, okay, all right, I

1303
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: like Tarantino. Yeah, Who's who's Matt Damon to you? Um? This?

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh god? What are those movies called born? Jason b Well,

1305
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: Bruce Willis is John McClean. Sure, An, you know, um,

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is the Mission Impossible guy. What's that guy's name? Uh,

1307
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: Ethan Hunt? Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, and added all this

1308
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Speaker 1: out any single important thing the Rams have to you

1309
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: to beat the Cardinals. Oh my gosh, long episode. Uh well,

1310
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound funny. Remember that Arizona is your opponent,

1311
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: and and get ready for the next one next week.

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Speaker 1: Get ready for this one now? Yeah, contain Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: if possible. And Sean McVay said it, he has no weakness,

1314
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Speaker 1: and I agree. And he just got fined twenty four

1315
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for blocking for a crackback. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you thought that, you know, he wasn't. He's already

1317
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: tough enough to defend He also blocks, yes, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean to defend him, Adrian Peterson, you have to

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01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: show the utmost respect for it because he can put

1320
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: you on Sports Center. He can put up a two

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01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: undred yard day at any moment. And they did show

1322
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: respect for him in the last matchup and they stuffed him,

1323
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: but they definitely, I thought, showed respect for his ability.

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Speaker 1: That's how you respect him. And on the other side, offensively,

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01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: just keep doing what you're doing on offense, um, keep

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01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: finding ways to move the football if they're taking away

1327
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: parts of your offense, because every defense is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to take away something. You can't defend everything, which is

1329
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: what Sean McVeigh gives you. He gives you everything. You're

1330
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Speaker 1: gonna have to defend vertically and horizontally, so you're gonna

1331
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: have to pick depending on what you have. Defensively, we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna take this away and live on the rest.

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Speaker 1: So whatever and however Arizona decides to defend, you be

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Speaker 1: ready to counter. Yeah. McVey does like to say that,

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, you want to attack the width and the

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Speaker 1: depth of the football field, So we'll see if the

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Speaker 1: Rams can do that on Sunday, no mistakes on special

1338
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: no mistakes, no mistakes. We don't really talk about it,

1339
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, Pharrell Cooper forty yard kick return forty yard

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01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: punt return. Yes, the fact that we got through over

1341
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: an hour of this and did not mention that, Like

1342
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: that's my bad, probably, but also like I think that

1343
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: shows you just the way this season is going for

1344
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: these rams where you get you get a performance like that,

1345
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,479
Speaker 1: and it's almost a footnote, right, Pharrell Cooper his return

1346
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: ability outstanding, bones fossil, the setup, Yeah, and what he's

1347
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: running to get him into into space, tremendous, tremendous, tremendous job. Absolutely,

1348
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: and Greg Zurline continues to make kicks, yes, and Johnny

1349
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: Hecker continues to get punts inside the twenty. So there's

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Speaker 1: your special times a minute, I guess for this episode.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for two in to this

1352
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: episode of Between the Horns. Remember kickoff from Arizona to

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Speaker 1: twenty five local time because they don't always they're not

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Speaker 1: always on Pacific time for whatever reason, but it's at

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Speaker 1: one twenty five Pacific that's going to be on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You can also check out my friend here DeMarco far

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Speaker 1: jb Long and Maurice Jones Drew on ESPN LA with

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Speaker 1: the radio call so from my producer Matt for DeMarco

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Speaker 1: far I'm Miles Simmons. We'll see you next week.