WEBVTT - Finding Your Voice with Samara Bay 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.600 Hey, everybody. This is Freddie Rodriguez. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.160 And I'm Wilmer Valderrama. Welcome to the DOOS podcast. I'm 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:17.600 Michael Tuda Podcast Network. I heeart our partners and fearless 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.400 leaders and disruption of podcasting. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.480 But we're nearing, We're near Indiana. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:23.480 We're here in the end. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.600 That's right, that's right. We've had a plethora of wonderful guests. Yes, 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:32.040 and today our guest is someone very personal to you, right. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.760 Yes, very very personal. And this is a very vulnerable, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:41.400 very vulnerable place for me. Yes, because we know how 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:46.239 that turned out, by the way I sound explained, by. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:54.480 The way it is. But Samara Bay, you know, you. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.360 See, you know we always explain this to our guests 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.840 when they're here, and that our guests are quite intentional. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:00.960 Right, Like we're we don't, we don't. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:02.600 This is not one of those shows we're like, oh, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.640 you know this book so and so, like we have 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:09.680 to have some type of connection tool or guess whether 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.560 it's in mutual respect or whether it's like a specific 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.560 subject or that so and in this specific subject. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.880 You were many hats. Best author is one, Yes, and 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:21.520 you have a book. What is the name of your book? 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.240 I have a book called Permission to Speak. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.640 That's right, And I asked that many times in time 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:34.800 you were you likesion, But tell everyone who's listening a 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.640 little bit of uh, you know what your career is, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.560 what you've done, and I know you're onto other things too, 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:41.680 and we love to hear that as well. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.880 Yeah, okay, So two main things. One is how we 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.720 know each other and the other is how it has 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:51.160 evolved very organically in the many many years since we 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.800 work together. But basically, in a nutshell, I have a 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.680 background as a dialect coach and that is. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.800 A rare, weird, niche job in. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.240 Hollywood that no one even thinks about it until they're like, wow, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.240 that actor sounded really amazing and not like themselves at all, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:06.800 and that one didn't. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.560 I'm sorry, how do you how do you wake up 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.919 one day and say I want to become a dialect coach? 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.120 Because you're right, it is a very niche It is 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:16.520 a very unique occupation. 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.320 What made you become a dialect coach? 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.760 I'll tell you. I think the absolute heart of it 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.800 is loving actors, like really having like a deep loving 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.919 respect for what the process is of taking words written 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.200 by it usually not you and putting them into your 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:35.160 mouth and making them a whole ass human. And if 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.720 there's an accent on top of that, because either English 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.480 is your second language and the producers, directors, whatever want 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.600 a different sound coming out of you, or you're playing 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.960 a very specific role that requires like oh, I'm from 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.200 Boston and I'm playing somebody from West Texas, then there 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.239 is a respect also for like, well, what's that culture's 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.600 what are we doing with this? How story are we talent? 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.680 And it's quite and it's quite a collaboration, but really 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.280 a partnership. You know, you you both have to go 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.920 on this journey to discovery what does this guy sound like? 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.600 Like I've had not like coach in Spanish because I 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.600 was like, okay, where in Mexico is my character is 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.040 supposed to be from? What is the Spanish? Because it 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.880 can't just be like any generic Mexican accent. There's like 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.000 there's like twelve different Mexican accents, right, you know. So 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:24.480 I think that's one of the things, like I think 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.480 it's really important is when you partner I was home 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.400 like Samara, It's like you really are like, Okay, we're 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.040 going to have to figure this guy out. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.800 And often when I'm pulling like audio tracks from the internet, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.000 from YouTube to be like, is this what we're going for. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.560 It's not just like the sounds like vowel sound, consonant sound. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.920 It's like the it's like the vibe of the person. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.720 Does this match the vibe of the character you're playing? 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.000 Is this going to help us tell that story of 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.280 this person in this you know, maybe in this emotional 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.800 state or maybe in this like aspirational moment of their 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.720 life where they're getting out from where they were, you know, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.960 like these are the stories that we tell with our voice. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.280 So you're talking about your love with actors. Where did 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:00.760 that start? 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:01.240 Oh? 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.960 You guys. I was just home this weekend in northern 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.520 California and I went to this Shakespeare festival that is 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:12.360 some version of the one eighties Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.760 there's a University of California campus there. My dad started 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.560 as a professor there in the seventies teaching astrophysics, and 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.320 so I grew up there and was brought along with 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:24.719 them to this Shakespeare stuff. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.800 When I was like ten, well, your dad used to 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:28.920 you bring it to this? 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:29.280 Yeah? 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.159 My parents were like, I think we have a precocious 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.000 kid on our hands. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:33.400 Let's see if she can handle this. 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.159 And then it was like these beautiful, very modern imagine 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:42.080 like you know, like bos Lhrman, Romano, Juliet type of Shakespeare. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.719 It just made me feel like, Okay, A, I feel 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.840 very alive. Whatever's happening. B. I'm looking around everyone else 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.320 does C. We're like breathing together. D. I don't know. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.760 Whatever's happening on the stage feels like it's like something 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.719 about the human condition. Right. All that was happening. And 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.320 obviously when I was ten, I wasn't like a bathet, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.159 but I was It's like this, whatever this is, this 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.120 is what I want to do, and it's I mean, 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.280 it's cracked me up over the you know, intributing at 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.080 thirty whatever years to be like, oh I my definition 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.960 of this has changed a lot. The other half of 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.960 what you were getting at is dialect coach, dialect coach. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.919 And then this sort of pivot happened when I got 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.159 brought into coach women who are running for office in 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.680 the twenty eighteen midterms just totally pro bonoun right, and 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.919 it made me realize that so many other times I 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.919 hadn't really totally put it together. But like my actors 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.679 would ask me to help them with like a speech 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.279 at the United Nations or a speech for an awards 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.560 ceremony or something where they're playing the character of themselves. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.239 But that's different than dialect. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.520 This is different, but it would bring up the ways 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.680 in which, like dialect work was always and I don't know, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.039 like you know, you get to tell me from the inside, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.600 But for me, as as I worked with all these 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:58.040 different clients, was always about half like sounds and let's 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.480 get this right and let's get it in your body 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.480 and whatever, and half let's create an environment where you 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.200 can like play and get and be bad at something 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.279 before you're good, which I think is like not enough 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.720 of us have that safe space in our lives ever, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.160 And like what is it to breathe as someone else? 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.880 Or what is it to breathe while doing something new 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.000 that is making us get all activated? But like stay 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.040 in it anyway, And that's public speaking as much as 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.200 it's dialectoral. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.039 You know, it's I love you trigger something that I've 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.200 done a bunch of keynote stuff. And what's really helped 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.400 me is comedy. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.599 Because being funny in it and not just being funny. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.159 And it's like when you do comedy, you understand the setup, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:42.720 you understand the build. 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.440 Up, you understand the punchline, the execution. 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.640 But in real life that's not how you tell stories. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.640 You don't tell stories to the massage. You to a 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.159 story to your friends. So you're not really thinking about 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.599 which is the operative word, which is the you know 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:54.960 that's what. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:56.760 So love you just an operative word. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.720 You're using correct terminology and uh, you. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.599 Know, well I was coached by. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.120 That was trademarks. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:16.000 It's resonated, something stuck around. But but I think it's 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.520 a very very fascinating thing when you think about, Okay, 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.400 an actor has to speak of the U N. He 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.960 has to do a couple of things, and that sound 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.760 like an actor who's just faking it, right, But most importantly, 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.480 if you you know, if you're the United Nations, you 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.760 have a certain passion for what you're about to speak about, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.920 and the right pronunciations of the technical terms and most 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.960 importantly the operator words is probably going to be really 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.720 important when you say that, Like in storytelling, the level 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:47.120 of urgency, the level of I don't want to say theatrical, 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.600 because nothing about that speech is fake. But but there 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.200 is there is a performance in order for it to 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.480 transcend beyond the ping of that. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.160 I made up this term in my book because I 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.200 just didn't it didn't exist for what you're talking talking 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.320 about called carrying out loud. And the idea is not 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.800 just that we care about shit. We do often when 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.760 we're speaking on a stage or in any kind of 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.239 a metaphorical stage. This it's because we care, but many 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.200 of us, all of us, are socialized to hide when 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.240 we care because it's terrifying to me, Like I care 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.480 about this, right, this is the vulnerability that actors are 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:21.240 like used to doing. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:21.640 Yep. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.120 But so the idea with carrying out loud is just 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.000 to offer like some language for what this process is 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.760 that any of us can engage in where we're like, Okay, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.320 I care about this thing. I'm not gonna have to 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.200 talk about it like I care about it? 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:34.760 Right? 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.679 How do I do that without like either pushing too 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.640 hard overcarrying acting like we care and then it feels theatrical. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.480 Over carrying over carrying. Yes, So there's two things. Right, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.080 you're very passionate about the subject. When you're too overly 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.960 passion you lose people because people are like you're preaching 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:52.200 to me. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.000 Now, Yes, I like to think of it as a spectrum. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.280 So on the one hand, over here, you're like, I 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.320 care about this a lot. We lovingly call this pushings 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:07.679 poa I mean metaphor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I care about it. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.280 But you know, we can tell when someone's pushing and 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.120 it's it's not that they don't even it's not it's 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.200 not that they don't care. Maybe it's that we can't 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.440 read anymore because there's so much messy going on in 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.400 front of them. And then on the other end of 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:20.880 the spectrum is I care a lot, but I'm going 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.880 to pretend like I don't because and often this is 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.840 like going into our throat and just being like, yeah, 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.719 I mean it's cool whatever, like this is kind of 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.800 my my life's work. But like if you don't like it, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:29.880 it's fine, right. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.680 So it's like it's like overacting in a scene almost right, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:34.160 put it out there. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.000 If you're in, you're in. If you're not, it's cool. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.480 I mean, it's such an obvious like defense mechanism. It's 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.880 so it's so like survival based. It's in a way, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.280 I just want to like love on anybody listening who's like, oh, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:43.800 should I do that? 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:44.040 Right? 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.280 Of course we do that. It's an incredibly valuable learned 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.920 skill to be like I care, but like not really 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.120 if that's inconvenient for anybody here. But if there's a 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.600 spectrum and over here is over and overhears under, then 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.199 what is the sweet spot in the middle. If we're 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.640 getting up on a stage and we're time, what matters 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.760 to us? How do we access consistently so we can 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.720 trust ourselves that level of care so that that that 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.560 word passion you used right comes out and it isn't 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.880 like this thing that pushes people away because it's too much, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.920 or this thing that makes people not totally seem interesting. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.320 Yeah, so you're almost like a good director is what 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.079 I'm what I'm going massaging the Yeah. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.600 That's a lot of it because I'm now I'm almost 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.480 entirely now doing public speaking coaching, and often it's for 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:32.160 business leaders. It's right, it's not Hollywood anymore. And you know, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.240 it's a huge mm applies because. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.679 It's just you or like, wow, these are the crazy question. 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.880 Yeah, when you get to that level of coaching, Yeah, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.720 to coach individuals that are at that sea level, do 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:51.320 you feel two questions one is are they more introverted 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.400 and they're not good with their words because they're just 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.560 geniuses what they have in front, so they can operate, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.439 but they just don't publicly speak, or they're just credible 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.079 communicators that they're just like they know how to delegate 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.920 in an interesting way because they're that leadership, or like, 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.520 you know, you don't what I'm trying to ask. If 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.679 there's two there's two different powers and there are two 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:13.920 different people you're gonna get at that. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.400 Yeah, yeah, I think it's I Yes, I think those 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.760 are the two categories too. For me, it's like either 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.400 folks who were thrust into the CEO role and the 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.520 public side of it, or even just the like all 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.560 hands like meetings with their. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.240 Or like they are gray CEO but they never thought 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:28.520 there was. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.679 Hot and they and they self identify as an introvert, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.280 or they self identify as I hate public speaking, which 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.480 of course does like so much allbody. I hate speaking 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.200 is a job and then and then it's a story 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.640 we tell ourselves, and then we look for evidence and 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.560 right like this is a brain's word beautiful, but you 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.800 need somebody to like disrupt that, or yeah, they just 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.240 want to be like absolutely, like Olympic level pig performance 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.520 and I love that too, right where they're like there's 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.319 more to learn, or I'm continuing to challenge myself and 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.880 speak on bigger stage. Maybe like I'm used to speaking 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.079 at the conferences for my industry, but now I want 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.440 to speak to the press. Now, I want to speak 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.800 to the public. Now I want to be a thought 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.680 leader and like really claim my thought leadership and that 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:12.680 kind of up level. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:13.640 You know. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.920 Again, it's story, like the stories we tell ourselves and 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.920 how we can change them. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.920 To make They're just fascinating when you see like attorneys 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.760 or you know, the head of the sheriff's department or 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.280 whatever and they have to you know, talk a by 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.920 the gravity of a situation at a press how do 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.440 you convey to the public, you know, public urgency or 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.840 emergency or just a regular update on an ongoing case. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.920 Like what are your thoughts? You're saying you have so 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:41.600 many thoughts. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.280 My main thought is it's not what anybody prioritizes when 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.679 they're when they're becoming that position. And then you see 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.840 in those moments of public crisis where the audience is 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.000 just like watching I'm thinking, for example, of the fires 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.160 here in La right when the audience is like watching 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.880 being like I need some thing, like I need to 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:01.760 be cared. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:02.520 For like. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:11.040 Microphone than you, you know, but like either one, it's 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.800 either I want to flight attendant who makes me feel 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.840 really comfortable or I want just like no bullshit, like 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:16.599 just literally. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.840 And everyone's relying on this cop or this whatever to 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:24.160 like comfort them right, to like convey that emotion this right, 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.079 and so like all of a sudden, they're thrust it 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.520 in that position, is what you're saying. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.439 And do you think in their throat at those moments 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.800 and they're like, I mean blast but if and they're like, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.640 we're all on the case and we really got your back. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.640 We're all in the audience being like there's I don't 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.760 I can't name it, but that's not enough. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:53.120 Right, bringing us back a little bit to the beginning, 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.480 and so of at all, I want to just drop 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.959 a few names that you've worked with, because I saw 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.559 this list here and I saw my name there, and 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:09.560 I'm just gonna go impressive, Yeah, Galgadot, right, Pierce Prossman, 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.520 an Olympic Cruz, Ricky Martin, Terry Crews, Terry Crews. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:14.880 I thought he was just on here. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:20.440 He has so many questions. Rachel mccadams, Wilmer Valdorama, that. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.240 Guy, that guy. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.400 Guy o'donno and Angelica Houston Wilmer abod Orama. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.360 Was that like the low in your career you did 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.080 not get that. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:33.440 Have you listened to that guy lately? 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.880 Not the guy? Yeah, that's the one that got away. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.960 I mean the production Like what if that had gone 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.160 we would have like been together for years. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.480 I don't know if he sounds like he went through 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:45.560 a dialing coach. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.160 At some point in the game, was like, look, you 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.520 either either you want wilmermo Dorama or you want you 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.880 don't want Wilmerdama, you know, and then eventually it worked. 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.320 But I have so many questions. So you were saying 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.200 two thousand in seventeen, is that no? No, I'm like that. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:04.720 You guys are. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:10.120 Yeah, so really really far away in the landland far away. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.720 Yeahre Hollywood was a little different, right, So if you 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.840 were of any dissent somehow, if you're on network TV, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.560 you need to sound American because people thought if you 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.400 had an accent on primetime television, no one was going 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:26.480 to understand. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.880 You, right, I mean, I joke although obviously it is haha, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.720 not funny that half of my work was actually just 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:38.520 soothing the nervous system of producers like they were just like, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.000 oh no, Middle America will be turned off by X 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.520 y Z. And I'll be like, we got you. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.200 And I wanted what was the you want to share? 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:47.600 What project was that we did? 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:49.960 Well, it was a pilot that never went so no 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.240 one will ever know. But here's this is the specific 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.320 part about what's the pilot. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:16:00.360 I would know about the pilot. Ye, I mean it's 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.000 so annoying because no annoying. They didn't get picked up 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.520 because it was it was lovely. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.800 But I will say here was the challenge on that one. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.600 Tell me if this is your memory, you were it 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.280 was a family drama to families. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.000 Military is a military show called four Stars, and he 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:20.720 was about two four star general families, right, So it's 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.680 like a four star general and a four star general. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.880 They you know, they they went to war together and 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.880 all that stuff whatever, and now their families are in 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.520 the family and business there in the military. And one 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:34.160 is a reporter you know, and in Washington and all 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.800 that stuff, and the other one is a young colonel 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:40.040 played by the always Greade will and uh and you 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.080 have Stephen Bauer played my dad and Bruce Greenwood played 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.000 I mean, it was like the cast was just phenomenal 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.800 and it's a beautiful I just saw the pilot again. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.640 Because I was thinking of that idea. It was so good. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.000 And we filmed in deep in like Seami Valley for Iraq, 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.760 which was fascinating. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.040 Which was amazing. That scene was crazy. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.120 So it was so the It was a beautiful family 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.359 drama that also had international turmoil type of. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.560 You know, a compliment to the story. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.359 You know, there was also there was also like an 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.960 action you know aspect to it, but it was also 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.359 about the core of the families and all that and 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.440 it fell into the whole. Around this time, CBS would 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.600 on cancer shows. There was no slots, so it was like, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.760 no matter how great your pilots were, if things were performing, 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:28.800 you might not only get one slot a year, two 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.800 slots a year to put in something new. They still 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.280 were making pilots though, so but I was supposed to 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.560 be someone who had just kind of you know, grown 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.000 up service, you know, whether universe. 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.000 It was cast with a brother and maybe a sister 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.040 and a mom and a dad who all had American accents. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.080 Yeah. Right, so then. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.360 So the question is, would be the story of this 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.160 guy who just has this little bit of a leftover 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:59.840 right venezuelan sound like, no problem except if it confuses 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:01.920 the audience, which in this case it might actually have. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:06.800 And so hard he cooked it up. He's like, you 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.800 know what did you know this? Like at some point 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.560 did you want to write write in the line? 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.439 He just decided, you know what, I'm gonna have a 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:14.719 little bit of a slight accent. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:16.920 Oh he did that for you? 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.280 Oh wow, Yeah, because because. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.119 The truth is like the performance, like they'd be like, 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.679 the performance is great, but that one word, so I 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.600 would end up doing like you can. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.480 Talk about the process of a guy like coach on 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.920 set is like like creating, how do I have no 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.480 idea how to put this? Creating a this like a 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.760 protective this for my actor where I am completely honest 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.639 with them, but I'm also not prioritizing a tiny bit 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.320 of sound over the like emotional truth of the scene. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.480 Like we're on the same team. But if they're hearing 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:50.040 sounds and they're telling me to go in and give 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.520 him this note, he knows and I know that we're 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.400 playing this game and it's a dance. 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.800 But you were involved, and even though she was involved, 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.600 Steven still felt like he had. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:03.760 The Well, I just I was ruggling with very specific words, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.439 a lot of military formal stuff that I just have 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:07.200 never said out there. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.840 And literally they wanted to miss sound American overnight and 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.879 like you sound you know you are the most American's 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:18.960