Speaker 1: Okay, a whole other podcast. It is called why are
Speaker 1: We Here? Why are We Here? First of all, so
Speaker 1: one thing that I always try to explain when I
Speaker 1: visit my cousins in Rwanda. Yeah, they're like, so, so
Speaker 1: then you get used to the cold. I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: did you never get used to it? It's a necessary evil. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's really unnecessary. Every every single time is minus fifteen.
Speaker 1: You feel it every day. You don't even get used
Speaker 1: to it for like a day. Yeah, I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: I just feel like weather should never be in the way,
Speaker 1: Like it should be something I don't I lightly think about, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it looks like it's a little chilly, I'll put on
Speaker 1: a jacket today, but not like, oh I have to
Speaker 1: go outside and do an hour of manual labor to
Speaker 1: get my car out. Like that's just this. No one
Speaker 1: should live like this. I have stories for you, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't it doesn't make sense. First of all,
Speaker 1: when my family came to Canada, my parents were like,
Speaker 1: we had never spoken to anyone about the weather before.
Speaker 1: That's all about it. No, And it's all these people want.
Speaker 1: It's all these people ever talked about. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is hilarious. Y'all was like, Hey, where y'all want
Speaker 1: to go? Let's about Canada? All right, she's pretty easy,
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, you're afterkids, which makes it
Speaker 1: even better and it makes me look. Look, the reality
Speaker 1: is that even Canadians don't talk about very much. Is
Speaker 1: like this is a place full of desperate or formally
Speaker 1: desperate people. Yeah, that's all it is. I never thought
Speaker 1: of that. It's all it is. Is just like it
Speaker 1: was either death over there or a frozen tundra. Oh
Speaker 1: my got okay, so we already recorded. Let me talk
Speaker 1: to you all about my man, Shad. Shad say what's
Speaker 1: up to the folks? What's up everybody? I'm glad to
Speaker 1: be here. Yes you are, Yes you should be. And
Speaker 1: because you're getting a little bit of sun through although
Speaker 1: it's kind of drizzly today, but I'm in a short
Speaker 1: sleeve T shirt. Um, Shad, I think, Oh that's all
Speaker 1: just uh, that was my alarm. I'm gonna turn it
Speaker 1: off so you have no more interruptions. Oh man, you
Speaker 1: was really sorry? Go ahead, go ahead, all good. So
Speaker 1: it's Shad to me? Was it this like this equal
Speaker 1: parts to where I was a fan of him? From
Speaker 1: Afar and had a million people tell me you need
Speaker 1: a connect chat and need connect chat, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it'll happen, you know what I'm saying, Like, well, we'll
Speaker 1: figure it out at some point, you know. But when
Speaker 1: we did connect, there was like equal parts of me
Speaker 1: is like did I just meet my twin? My twin?
Speaker 1: And the other part was just this slow realization that
Speaker 1: Shad has figured out how to be a star and
Speaker 1: not a celebrity. Like how you met because we walking
Speaker 1: through Toronto on New Year's and freely and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, this guy is one of the most decorated
Speaker 1: artists in Canada, like he just I'm like, how are
Speaker 1: you doing this? So like this y'all Americans, Cha has
Speaker 1: one the equivalent of like Michael Jackson level of of
Speaker 1: Grammys in Canada. And we're just getting pancakes, like like,
Speaker 1: how let's eat doing this? Look? Life is uh to me,
Speaker 1: It's all about what you want, you know. I just
Speaker 1: I love the I love the work, I love music.
Speaker 1: And then you know, you know how it is. I
Speaker 1: mean we are twins. Like when we hang out, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like, yeah, we basically agree on everything. We
Speaker 1: could essentially be talking to ourselves, you know what I mean. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is the strangest thing. I was like, how is
Speaker 1: a person from a whole other cut out? Like why
Speaker 1: are we? How are our brains melded? So it's just
Speaker 1: crazy a lot of same interest. This guy is an
Speaker 1: encyclopedia of nineties basketball trivia, uh, and it makes it
Speaker 1: in the lyrics. So if you ever have a question
Speaker 1: as to like who is the you know, Western Conference
Speaker 1: champion in n just pull up one of Chad's albums
Speaker 1: and there's a reference somewhere in there hidden in a
Speaker 1: are yes thousand percent? Or just hit me with a
Speaker 1: d M. I got the answer for you this problem.
Speaker 1: And lastly, as in this love fest for Chad, is
Speaker 1: uh the Michael Jordan's poetry book that can you please
Speaker 1: just set this up for these people, like, so we're
Speaker 1: watching you're watching the Jordan series. I'm watching the Last
Speaker 1: Dance the Jordan's series, and uh, there's a moment that
Speaker 1: stood out to me. I don't know if it stood
Speaker 1: out to other people, but it's in the last episode
Speaker 1: and Steve Kerr former Bowl is talking about a ceremony
Speaker 1: that Phil Jackson had before the end of their last season.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And he and Phil Jackson, you know, he's
Speaker 1: like he's a coach, but he's a spiritual cat, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I want us to all write something down,
Speaker 1: you know, get together in a circle, writes something down
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper and then burn it in
Speaker 1: the middle, you know, and it will be like our
Speaker 1: goodbye and Steve and Steve Kerrs like you know, it
Speaker 1: was unusual ceremony, but it was really cool and everybody
Speaker 1: you know, got emotional, really got into it. And Michael
Speaker 1: Michael actually wrote a poem and I was like he did, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa what? Oh my god, Michael Jordan's wrote a poem,
Speaker 1: read it to his teammates and it's just burned out
Speaker 1: like that should be like this should be in the
Speaker 1: Smith's audio. Yes, I would have been diving into the fire, yes,
Speaker 1: to rescue this undoubtedly horrible, hilarious poem. There's no question
Speaker 1: about mind. This boat is terrible, terrible, But it's Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 1: So it's Michael Jordan, who like notoriously has no feelings,
Speaker 1: trying to like write about his feelings like this has
Speaker 1: to be the best worst piece of poetry, Like so
Speaker 1: I had to do the only thing that I could do,
Speaker 1: which is right about twelve poems in the voice of
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's Oh my God, yeah, and like twenty extra points.
Speaker 1: If y'all go find them from where We're not gonna
Speaker 1: tell them where they are, but they own the internet.
Speaker 1: You have to go bus. Yeah. I found uh. I
Speaker 1: found a photo of Michael Jordan with like a backwards
Speaker 1: kangle hat, looking kind of looking kind of sensitive, and
Speaker 1: I just set up an i G poetry profile. I
Speaker 1: had to. There was no I feel like you did.
Speaker 1: I remember that moment watching that. I just went huh.
Speaker 1: When he said he did it, I just went huh.
Speaker 1: And I was waiting for them to recite the poem
Speaker 1: for us something on the show, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all just not gonna tell us what's in the poem. Huh.
Speaker 1: Just moved gone. But I was just like, Michael wrote
Speaker 1: a poem, huh. And we read it aloud, and he
Speaker 1: read it aloud, and I'm like, nobody, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: mention that. No one's gonna talk about You're not gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it, Okay. I just moved off. But like
Speaker 1: for you to be like oh no, no, no, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, we're not moving on. No we're not We're
Speaker 1: not moving on. We are not moving on from this. Yes,
Speaker 1: I so perfect. One more thing, the host of Hip
Speaker 1: Hop Evolution on Netflix is the season five where you
Speaker 1: talk about Christian rappers, So I could be on it.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, religion and rap. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, it's the whole show. What's that I said?
Speaker 1: Religion and rap. It's a whole show. You can talk
Speaker 1: about will Tang centers, you know what I'm saying anyway, honestly,
Speaker 1: and Kanye and Kendrick and everything. You can go global
Speaker 1: with it, like, yes, that would be an amazing, amazing, um, amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing show. I think so too, which I just want
Speaker 1: to be on it now. Uh, let's get to what
Speaker 1: we want to talk about here. So you were the
Speaker 1: first perfect person to talk about this, because again, whoever
Speaker 1: I have as guests on there, this this this weird
Speaker 1: vin diagram of people who understand urban hip hop, gang life,
Speaker 1: pop culture and can speak with some semblance of intelligence
Speaker 1: about government, of politics, geopolitics, stuff like that. So it's
Speaker 1: a very small circle. So having said that, my Canadian friend,
Speaker 1: do you remember the documentary Banging in Little Rock. Um No,
Speaker 1: like the name, the name comes to mind, and then
Speaker 1: you brought it up to me. Yes, so yes, Banging
Speaker 1: in Little Rock. It was this nineties like documentary about
Speaker 1: this crip gang in Little Rock, Arkansas. And I remember
Speaker 1: as an l a boy seeing this and in relation
Speaker 1: with most of our friends and family, you know who
Speaker 1: from the city, it was like we saw a dynasty.
Speaker 1: It was like you saw extinct species, like what is this?
Speaker 1: What what has happened? Like it was so intriguing, like
Speaker 1: what like there's cripts outside of here, you know, and
Speaker 1: then following the story of how that happened and all this,
Speaker 1: and we were just like, of all the things to
Speaker 1: export out of California, this is what we didn't exported.
Speaker 1: Like it's just I even think about, like another great
Speaker 1: export of the United States is racism. It's what just
Speaker 1: we we exported pretty well, especially if you're looking at
Speaker 1: like I mean, my man hit Or in World War
Speaker 1: two was like, yo, let me tell you where I
Speaker 1: got this idea from? Jim Crow South That's it's that's
Speaker 1: where I got it from. You know. So like there's
Speaker 1: that but just the understanding of like thinking back to
Speaker 1: I think. I mean I brought this up before on
Speaker 1: some old episodes. When like we're hit in middle school
Speaker 1: is usually like six seventh eighth grade is when the
Speaker 1: recruiting for for for the gangshit starts getting really intense.
Speaker 1: And um, generally, if you have a if you if
Speaker 1: a kid start getting in trouble, a lot of times
Speaker 1: it's like you gotta go. They gotta go spend the
Speaker 1: summer what they Auntie and Atlanta or d C or
Speaker 1: South Carolina because they're trying to get him out of trouble.
Speaker 1: And then eventually Homie moves and it's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: he had to go live with his auntie and we
Speaker 1: don't at that point that person ceases to exist in
Speaker 1: our mind. Uh you know what I'm saying. But you
Speaker 1: just forget that. Like if baby Doo Loo, you know,
Speaker 1: in eighth grade just got shipped off to Arkansas, what
Speaker 1: is he gonna do? He gonna start to set out there,
Speaker 1: You're set like, and it's like, you know, your whole
Speaker 1: your uncle probably gang bang too, and he would just
Speaker 1: happen to be outside over there. Yeah, the whole thing
Speaker 1: ends up being me unplugging my headphones. I lost my
Speaker 1: headphones for a second area. But yeah, and then it
Speaker 1: just ends up being Yeah, the hood just gets exported.
Speaker 1: And I was like, of course they're gonna have gangs
Speaker 1: over there, you know what I'm saying, Like we just
Speaker 1: I've ever thought about that. Mm hm m hm. You
Speaker 1: know what you and um you Immerse are the people
Speaker 1: that explained the l A gang situation to me. Oh
Speaker 1: work as as outsider, because um, when we would film
Speaker 1: for Hip Hop Evolution, we go everywhere, right, and I
Speaker 1: always come back and I tell people l A is
Speaker 1: the place where I would get killed because l A
Speaker 1: is so it's it's very it's very wild, right, but
Speaker 1: it looks so beautiful. So my Canadian temperament would just
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, it's magic hour. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for a walk. And this neighborhood looks Look,
Speaker 1: this neighborhood looks nice, bunch of bungalow's palm trees. That's
Speaker 1: why everybody who comes out here and visit says, it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't ever know when I've entered a zone like
Speaker 1: you just every other place in the world, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're in the hood. Yeah, like a Favella, like
Speaker 1: you know when you're there, Like if you go through
Speaker 1: the crunchhall there, that's why I tell people like we're
Speaker 1: nipsy and the from Like you go through the crunchhall district,
Speaker 1: those are nice houses, like it's it's a nice area.
Speaker 1: It's a nice area on a nice day. And then
Speaker 1: and then people who just walk up to and be
Speaker 1: like what are you doing here? Yeah? Hey, where are
Speaker 1: you from? Like why is you? What did you doing?
Speaker 1: Just camera out like you crissaw slas. You need to
Speaker 1: get out of here. I don't know what you think
Speaker 1: this is. This is not yes, no, it's not. And
Speaker 1: you dip through a side street like and you're just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, it's you know, it's traffic on this major street.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna dip through the side street. Then you
Speaker 1: dip through the stide street and you just see all
Speaker 1: blue everything and forty five dudes hanging out on the
Speaker 1: corner and you're like, a you stuck, now, bro now
Speaker 1: you're here. I don't know it to tell yummy, just
Speaker 1: just look straight ahead, just road, just keep looking straight ahead,
Speaker 1: keep going, you know. So it was you in conversation
Speaker 1: with you immersive like broke it down for me and
Speaker 1: explained to me what was going on, because I was like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I went last six months. I just you need a
Speaker 1: tour guy. Yeah, you need a tour guy because you know,
Speaker 1: I just showed you the snow out here. Like when
Speaker 1: it's summer in Canada, we just walk around everywhere because
Speaker 1: it's finally sunn so finally how I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: inside you crazy. We don't go in our cars. We
Speaker 1: walk around. Let me see this neighborhood. I've never been
Speaker 1: over there. It's clearly obvious which part of like Vancouver
Speaker 1: or Toronto you ain't supposed to go to. It's obviously
Speaker 1: I ain't going over there. Thank that is oh uh
Speaker 1: so so so yeah, so you know you broke it
Speaker 1: down for me. So I got I'm glad to be
Speaker 1: your your Canadian correspondent and trying to explain to you. Yes,
Speaker 1: some of the things that are going on here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've you've exported. Um, I don't know how far to
Speaker 1: go back. Okay, so when Trump was elected, I'll just
Speaker 1: start there first. There for me, when Trump was elected,
Speaker 1: the Conservative Party here, the I guess the rough equivalent
Speaker 1: of the Republican Party the right wing mainstream party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they tried to get a leader that was a celebrity,
Speaker 1: that was a media figure. Um, this guy Kevin O'Leary,
Speaker 1: who was one of our uh, you guys have Dragon's
Speaker 1: den there, shark tank, shark tank. Yours just called shark tank?
Speaker 1: Are is it called dragons? Okay? So much so so
Speaker 1: the meanest you know, business guy from our shark tank
Speaker 1: was in the running for the leadership of the Conservative Party,
Speaker 1: which is our equivalent of the Republican Party, but ultimately
Speaker 1: the membership rejected him. So so that to me was
Speaker 1: a significant moment of like, we saw that work for
Speaker 1: you guys, but we're like, we're not gonna you know,
Speaker 1: our our Republicans are right wing party, was like, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna do that Trump thing. Okay. So all that
Speaker 1: to explain like Trump and Trump is, um is not
Speaker 1: popular or mainstream here the way that it is there, okay,
Speaker 1: or at least it wasn't here we go here comes
Speaker 1: to banging in little rock moment, I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: y'all doing? Or at least or at least it wasn't,
Speaker 1: you know. So the most recent leader of that party
Speaker 1: was this guy, Um Aaron O'Toole, who is relatively he's
Speaker 1: he's very center, right, Okay, he's I would call him
Speaker 1: the equivalent of like a John McCain, Mney, John McCain,
Speaker 1: a mid Romney and John McClain kind of center right, classic,
Speaker 1: you know, institutional, institutional, classic guy, you know, right way back.
Speaker 1: But they just booted him and it seems like they're
Speaker 1: gonna pivot a little bit harder, right. So that's that's some.
Speaker 1: And then of course there's the trucker what is called
Speaker 1: the Freedom Convoy or the trucker Convoy. I don't like
Speaker 1: calling them the trucker convoy because of truckers are vaccinated
Speaker 1: and working. That's what That's what I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just when I read this thing,
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, but yes, like that's you still
Speaker 1: have been if you have a nine on a test
Speaker 1: like you, that's an a you got most of the answers, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you tell me ninety
Speaker 1: out of a hundred, I'm already got vaccines and are
Speaker 1: like whatever, we're doing what we gotta do. That's it.
Speaker 1: So according to the you know, the Official Truckers Association
Speaker 1: of truckers are vaccinated, are working, and they officially disavowed
Speaker 1: this movement. That's crazy. The um the Teamsters Union of
Speaker 1: Trucker's officially disavowed is this movement? So like calling it
Speaker 1: as a trucker convoy is a misnomer. Okay, okay, So
Speaker 1: let's start there. Um. That being said, these changes are afoot.
Speaker 1: So they like they kicked out the center right guy.
Speaker 1: The party seems to be going more hard right, um,
Speaker 1: and then this movement started up. Now, this movement started
Speaker 1: like three weeks ago. This is I'm about to explain
Speaker 1: how it all seems very sinister to me. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: I was like Google, do do to teach it? Okay,
Speaker 1: So let me explain how it all seems very sinister
Speaker 1: to me and in line with what you're saying about
Speaker 1: the banging in Little Rock okay, okay. So, so the
Speaker 1: mainstream right wing party seems to be going more hard
Speaker 1: right then this Freedom Convoy thing. So it started out
Speaker 1: maybe four weeks ago as being about a vaccine mandates
Speaker 1: against trucker's. That's what they yeah, going in and out
Speaker 1: of the country, that's what they were saying that that's
Speaker 1: what this protest is about to be about. And they
Speaker 1: were saying that that's an important thing because the truckers
Speaker 1: affect the supply chain and we can't take more hits
Speaker 1: to the supply chain. It's affecting the cost of goods
Speaker 1: for all Canadians. Okay, that what they said it was about.
Speaker 1: But as we know, truckers are vaccinated and working. Also,
Speaker 1: fast forward three or four weeks to now, and the
Speaker 1: protest is blocking the borders and the supply chain. So
Speaker 1: there's that. So they're doing the opposite of what they
Speaker 1: were saying that they're trying to prevent. They're trying they
Speaker 1: said at the start, we're trying to prevent disruptions to
Speaker 1: the supply chain, and now they are actively disrupting the
Speaker 1: supply chain. They blocked the bridge between Detroit and Windsor,
Speaker 1: which is like the biggest trade point between a mayor
Speaker 1: in Canada. It's the biggest trade point in Canada. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by far, and they've blocked it for a week. Um
Speaker 1: Our Premier, which is the equivalent of our governor, had
Speaker 1: to declare state of emergency to clear that bridge. I
Speaker 1: saw that today, right, So so they started saying they're
Speaker 1: about one thing and less than a month later, they're
Speaker 1: doing the opposite thing. So after they kind of abandoned
Speaker 1: being about truckers, they kind of said that they were
Speaker 1: about um vaccine mandates in general. Yeah, that you shouldn't
Speaker 1: make us do this, that that you shouldn't make us
Speaker 1: do this. Okay, But but but then I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my first images of the protests and all I see
Speaker 1: is Canadian flags flying, and I'm like, what does that
Speaker 1: have to do with vaccines? Yeah, what does that have
Speaker 1: to do with vaccines? So then that that starts the
Speaker 1: third pivot. So then it's not really about vaccines. It's
Speaker 1: only a little bit about vaccines. It's about freedom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's about nationalism in a way that is really
Speaker 1: Trumpian very much so, and Trump is supporting it. He's
Speaker 1: a vocal supporter. Fox News is a vocal supporter. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is even before Canadian media is even really talking
Speaker 1: about it, like not that like that much. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that we were talking about it before, y'all were
Speaker 1: exactly exactly crazy. I what. Yeah, the part that got
Speaker 1: me was when Foods was like, we're calling for the
Speaker 1: complete disillusion of the Canadian government. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: what to me that at that point I started laughing.
Speaker 1: I was like, y'all went for I don't like this
Speaker 1: mandate to like we just need to dissolve the government completely.
Speaker 1: It's like, y'all, what is it? You know what? I'm
Speaker 1: dialed up the trumpets like you know, it's it's these
Speaker 1: wild leaps and wild leaps and everything like logic demands. Um,
Speaker 1: that's just all over the place. Okay. The final thing
Speaker 1: about it that's really sinister is the organizers. M hmm.
Speaker 1: So the official organizers listed on their Facebook have ties
Speaker 1: to Q and ON, which I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that is, but it's we we gave y'all Q and On.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It is a uniquely American conspiracy. And they
Speaker 1: big in Japan. Yeah, they big now in Canada. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll go out. You don't even know what the hell
Speaker 1: Q is. I love it. I don't even know it is.
Speaker 1: But one of the dude, one of the main organizers
Speaker 1: is q and On, Another one is UH was a
Speaker 1: member of like this Western Canada Separatist Party, and then
Speaker 1: another one or two are just outright have outright ties
Speaker 1: to white supremacist organizations like Soldiers of Odin and these
Speaker 1: sort of people okay, And one of them was on
Speaker 1: Facebook the other week saying that kids should walk out
Speaker 1: of school and uh in protests and should wear orange shirts.
Speaker 1: Now in Canada Orange Shirt Day, when kids wear orange shirts,
Speaker 1: it's in memory of the kids that were killed in
Speaker 1: the residential school system. So that's what do you hear
Speaker 1: get into. So he's trying to appropriate that symbol. So
Speaker 1: so they're trying to which is disgusting beyond the yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awful. Yeah, there are people out here. There are
Speaker 1: people out here that are talking about like this is
Speaker 1: their Rosa Parks moments with exactly wearing masks, like that's
Speaker 1: the equivalent of like defecating schools, like exactly, okay, which
Speaker 1: is the best thing beyond discussed, like to me, good
Speaker 1: natured person, you know, if that's opposed to vaccine mandates.
Speaker 1: If you show up and there's Confederate flags, you show
Speaker 1: up and the organizer just trying to appropriate Orange shirt Day,
Speaker 1: that's when you got to cut ties. That's your cue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your cute. That's your que to leave. It's not
Speaker 1: your cue to say there's some bad actors. It's your
Speaker 1: queue to leave. Yeah, And at some point you have
Speaker 1: to be like, and I mean it, I look this
Speaker 1: this going back to the hood. At some point you
Speaker 1: gotta be like, all right, Homy, you want y'all like
Speaker 1: exactly like you have the you at you at the club.
Speaker 1: You got a show, lad, you gotta show. You gotta
Speaker 1: show of Vancouver. You are here spin y'all own boy,
Speaker 1: your day getting all active. At some point you're like, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't shut up, like you're going to fight
Speaker 1: all in by yourself because you to dross the loan Homeboy,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting you. I'm trying to eat my poon team.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you know how you're
Speaker 1: getting active with these folks? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's where, that's where, because you know,
Speaker 1: my natural inclination is to be understanding and sympathetic and
Speaker 1: like if people are we're all tired of the vaccines,
Speaker 1: we're all tired of the or the lockdowns and all that.
Speaker 1: But if people show up with the Confederate flag, if
Speaker 1: people show up, if one of the organizers is trying
Speaker 1: to appropriate orange shirt day, yeah, that's not your cue
Speaker 1: to stay. Yeah, there's some fringe people, but they don't
Speaker 1: represent the think no, no, no no, No, that's when you bounce.
Speaker 1: That's when they have it's there's now you're like, it's
Speaker 1: that point, it's there. It's it's just like when if
Speaker 1: you if you you know, you're in a brawl, and
Speaker 1: then somebody pulls out a gun. It's like, well it's
Speaker 1: a new day. Now, this is something else. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that and so and so all the symbols. Man, it's
Speaker 1: crazy that that this is what, this is what they do,
Speaker 1: you know, these far right movements. It's like, like I said,
Speaker 1: the first footage I saw of the protests Canadian flags everywhere.
Speaker 1: So they're taking that simple. They're like, we we are
Speaker 1: the true Canadians. If you got your vaccine in order
Speaker 1: to protect yourself and your the rest of the society,
Speaker 1: somehow you're not patriotic, not patriotic. Somehow you're not patriotic.
Speaker 1: But we are. So they own that right. Then again
Speaker 1: to the trucker thing, it's like truckers are vaccinated and
Speaker 1: out there working and actually being actively blocked at the
Speaker 1: borders by these people, but they somehow own the title
Speaker 1: of workers movement. Yeah. Now this makes me so upset
Speaker 1: because I see that every where, like this is a
Speaker 1: movement of working people, this movement of the working class.
Speaker 1: It's like, prove that to me. Substantiate that, please, because
Speaker 1: that's not clear to me at all. Yeah. I find
Speaker 1: it so interesting that that just with with America, we
Speaker 1: could say, yeah, the the numbers in some ways are
Speaker 1: pretty even. Yeah, as far as like, of course, there's
Speaker 1: you know, the Q and on where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: your brain is cooked, and that maybe we talk about
Speaker 1: a little bit about that little lady. Okay, y'all brain cooked,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, But then there are
Speaker 1: those that we would consider like, Okay, you're a reasonable
Speaker 1: person who I just disagree with because I think you're
Speaker 1: I personally think you're in a closed ecosystem of misinformation.
Speaker 1: And it's just I don't know what else to tell you.
Speaker 1: You're not getting correct information, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, and you know, it's it's it's there's there's
Speaker 1: that to be said about the sort of smugness of
Speaker 1: like the left wing kind of liberal movement to where
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, y'all, just you're thinking better than everybody,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there's but it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty like, which is why we're in such a stalemate.
Speaker 1: Is like it's pretty even. But I'm looking at Canada
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's only five of y'all that that
Speaker 1: actually think this and you to locked down the hole
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how would y'all it's it's only five,
Speaker 1: Like everybody Kinta is like, no, I don't know I'm
Speaker 1: doing I've been at work. And then the way that
Speaker 1: they've been doing this is the most Canadian way ever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all just hawking horns and being annoying, like
Speaker 1: you ain't shooting nothing, you're not breaking nothing. You just
Speaker 1: y'all to take it and you're just being loud and obnoxious.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. But look, these are the two things that
Speaker 1: are saving us from full on you know six and
Speaker 1: yeah war and you know that level of things to
Speaker 1: two things. One the firearms staying yes, okay, you're just
Speaker 1: gonna happy. Y'all just ain't got guns like us. We
Speaker 1: just don't like we have we have like hunting equipment,
Speaker 1: but we do not have handguns. We don't have automatic weapons.
Speaker 1: You know here, if someone has a handgun, they're up
Speaker 1: to nod. There's I can draw conclusions you are you
Speaker 1: a thousand percent? You may draw your conclusions. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been in the America with like dentists with firearms
Speaker 1: on it, you know what I mean. Like it's like listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could walk into any average home. Yes, and yes
Speaker 1: there's a handgun in it. Yeah. Oh yeah, you know
Speaker 1: like here you have a handgun. You're definitely up some Yeah. There.
Speaker 1: They are as ubiquitous as like like you're steak knives, yes,
Speaker 1: in your house, like you just have to we have
Speaker 1: we have stake nives. What are you talking about? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's in the safe back there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying exactly exactly. So so that is keeping
Speaker 1: us safe. And the other thing is that this ultra
Speaker 1: far right, like the main streaming of it is a
Speaker 1: relatively new thing like this this protests is the first
Speaker 1: sort of like mainstreaming of that far right thing. And
Speaker 1: so we're not all the way at the point where
Speaker 1: you know, like I just followed the news about these
Speaker 1: two Republicans that got censored for yeah looking at you know,
Speaker 1: which is like a real movement where a mainstream party
Speaker 1: has basic we decided to be fringe, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? They've Yeah, this is like it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: remarkable that like a guy that's been um impeached twice.
Speaker 1: Job said, and this morning, listen, this morning. What what's
Speaker 1: today the this morning? Yeah, Trump's uh accounting firm basically
Speaker 1: was like, hey, listen, we don't stand by none of
Speaker 1: the reports from two thousand eleven and two thousand twenty. Wow,
Speaker 1: I won't stand by none of those reports, y'all said.
Speaker 1: They're like, look, we look, we have cut ties. We
Speaker 1: don't stand by none of these reports because in because
Speaker 1: now in two like they need to re up on
Speaker 1: their loans for all their business with like Deutsche Bank,
Speaker 1: and the accounting firm was like, listen, I can't stand
Speaker 1: by none of these numbers. I'm like, and that's y'all's
Speaker 1: got like you know what I'm saying, And like at
Speaker 1: this point, it's like obviously the movement is bigger than him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And he's smart enough to
Speaker 1: like attach himself to that. But the like the goon
Speaker 1: kind of bostness of him that he can still like sway,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is something that like I should be
Speaker 1: like listen, listen, Canada, Yes it's coming you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the first appearance of that level of like
Speaker 1: pure duggar. Yeah, it's like you know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there's no logic to it. Like I was explaining,
Speaker 1: like there's no logic to this thing. It started out
Speaker 1: about truck or mandates, and then it's about mandates in general.
Speaker 1: Now it's about this vague kind of freedom thing. They're
Speaker 1: taking over all of these symbols, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and they're like excusing all kinds of behavior that is
Speaker 1: like completely inexcusable. It's like that's never really happened. But
Speaker 1: but we don't have the weapons, and it is still
Speaker 1: relatively fringed. Like there's not that many people in Ottawa.
Speaker 1: There's a few hundred or whatever. It's just that they
Speaker 1: have trucks and honestly, like our our police force are
Speaker 1: like we're well, actually I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: with the police forces, to be honest, like people in
Speaker 1: Ottawa like they should be doing a lot more, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a little bit unprecedented, like they're
Speaker 1: used to clearing out some people. Yeah, yeah, I listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I listened to some like I was reading on al
Speaker 1: Jazeer that the police were like, uh, I actually don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. Maybe we just gonna stay out
Speaker 1: of this for now, Like I mean they haunk, they're annoying,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's right now, They're just annoying. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, Uh, yeah, what were supposed to do? You know,
Speaker 1: y'all don't have a military spinning in yo police, So
Speaker 1: you ain't got tanks or nothing exactly. We don't have
Speaker 1: we have tanks, you don't have any of that. So
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of like, yeah, what do we
Speaker 1: do about these just big trucks? You know? Um, But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the other thing that's sinister about it
Speaker 1: to me that is reminiscent of January six is becu
Speaker 1: is Like so what I was scratching my head about
Speaker 1: for a while was, Okay, these people are waving all
Speaker 1: these Canadian flags and they're like we're the you know,
Speaker 1: we're taking Canada back and we're through Canadians and making
Speaker 1: Canada great again and all this stuff. But then they're
Speaker 1: disrupting the capital city and like and also like why
Speaker 1: are you going all the way to Ottawa just because
Speaker 1: you're sick of mandates? Like we're all sick of mandates.
Speaker 1: It's they're annoying, but like I'm not gonna go all
Speaker 1: the way to Ottawa and just like just because like
Speaker 1: they'll be done when they're done, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like relax right, um. But then I realized, actually, no,
Speaker 1: it was a friend of mine in conversation that was
Speaker 1: explaining to me, like the whole this nationalism thing and
Speaker 1: the symbolism behind it. It's like going to Ottawa for
Speaker 1: some of these people is a pilgrimage their meta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good, you know what I mean. And it's true,
Speaker 1: Like and you hear that in some of the accounts
Speaker 1: from people being like, you know what, I always wanted
Speaker 1: to go to Ottawa anyhow as a proud Canadian and
Speaker 1: that was actually part of the pool. It really is
Speaker 1: like a pilgrimage. So that's where it's like it's really insidious,
Speaker 1: and I hope people are being careful, especially and I
Speaker 1: hate even having to talk about this dimension of it,
Speaker 1: but you know, there's a lot of white Christian folks,
Speaker 1: It's true, and it's like this is very insidious, y'all,
Speaker 1: like you being you know what I'm saying, Your religion
Speaker 1: is Canada religion. Yeah. Look, it's not something I'm familiar with. Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This sorry export,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We could have gave y'all avocados, We could
Speaker 1: have got so many other things we could have gave.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we gave you gang baget. I'm sorry. Dog, listen, dog,
Speaker 1: Like I never I never signed mainstream like this where
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, bro of these white Christian folks Canada
Speaker 1: is they said their religion, they said the quiet thing
Speaker 1: out loud, and it's like and the part that like
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to me is like you know, like
Speaker 1: like like again with the gang comparison, and like a
Speaker 1: lot of the a lot of the things that happened
Speaker 1: with the names of our hoods, like why they're laid
Speaker 1: out the way they are is it's geographical, you know.
Speaker 1: So when you say rather than twenties, rather than sixties,
Speaker 1: it's like, because those are the names of the streets,
Speaker 1: sixty sixty seven six, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: that's why they're called that, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: but if you in Kansas City and it's so wrong,
Speaker 1: and it's like why are y'all called you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's like, so you're you're exporting stuff that's like,
Speaker 1: it's just so strange. It's not so for for America.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, that was part of the brochure,
Speaker 1: was that this was God's plan, Like that's our brochure.
Speaker 1: So of course it's gonna be like this, this synchronizing
Speaker 1: like understanding of like God and country like that was
Speaker 1: a rally cry that's in our origin stories. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why the hell Canada doing that, Like
Speaker 1: that's not that ain't and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But it's just they these these movements have a way
Speaker 1: of attaching themselves to the part, like you said, to
Speaker 1: the part of it that just like scratches those prejudice
Speaker 1: that are already there, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that's the part that was like that bothered us mostly
Speaker 1: in America. It was like, hey, we've been sitting in
Speaker 1: these churches, us black folks ground posts, been sitting these
Speaker 1: churches this all the time, and and been thinking having
Speaker 1: a seeking suspicion. You know what I'm saying, that like
Speaker 1: I don't think these people really and then gotta we're
Speaker 1: able to say the quiet things out loud. And I
Speaker 1: knew it, you know what I mean. It was like
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it. I knew it, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and now we find ourselves, we find ourselves
Speaker 1: like this, you know, just in this bizarro world where
Speaker 1: our so far so it's me. It's like there's even
Speaker 1: this like race to the bottom of like what's the
Speaker 1: most absurd take you can have that's either gonna get
Speaker 1: you on the TV or because our governor down in Florida,
Speaker 1: he just passed the law to say when you're doing
Speaker 1: diversity training, you can't say nothing that's gonna make white
Speaker 1: people feel uncomfortable. That that's the that's the law. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, how you uh, how do you enforce that?
Speaker 1: You know, look like this abandoned this this complete so
Speaker 1: when we look when we look at America, when I
Speaker 1: look at America anyways, I see your nation is a
Speaker 1: hundred years older than ours, right, so it's like I
Speaker 1: see what could be our future. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: with this, with things like that law, with things like these,
Speaker 1: um Republican is getting censored, it's like it is an
Speaker 1: official abandonment of the truth. Yeah, officially yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: The as the January six, like you know, investigation and
Speaker 1: stuff started happening, it was like, okay, y'all have you're
Speaker 1: you've officially just you've decided, you just you just checked out,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, that's not even They was trying to
Speaker 1: kill y'all too. That's the part I don't understand. It's
Speaker 1: like they were trying to take you out to like
Speaker 1: you you wasn't exempt. Is it pure, pure, pure, pure tribalism?
Speaker 1: So this is where like this, this is revealing itself
Speaker 1: and mainstreaming itself here in a way that even five
Speaker 1: six years ago it was still to fringe and two underground. Bro.
Speaker 1: I remember watching the Canadian coverage of Trump's first election,
Speaker 1: and I just wish you could have been watching it
Speaker 1: with me, like it was. It was stunned silence. I
Speaker 1: was laughing, my wife was crying, like just I've never
Speaker 1: seen news coverage like that. I've never seen journalists like
Speaker 1: paralyzed because they don't know how to cover something like that.
Speaker 1: Because I wish I could have watched it from the outside,
Speaker 1: because there was definitely elements within the States that were
Speaker 1: like this is a joke, right, Like truly, this isn't real.
Speaker 1: And then we were like, oh my god, it's real.
Speaker 1: And then we were like nobody believes this, right, then
Speaker 1: we're like, oh my god, half the country believes it.
Speaker 1: So then it was like, uh, you know, and then
Speaker 1: you try every tactic of like, well let me explain
Speaker 1: to you why this is ridiculous. Well here, listen to
Speaker 1: the man talk like y'all don't y'all don't hear what
Speaker 1: you know. But I would love to see. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I would love to see how I wish I wish
Speaker 1: you were sitting beside me watching it because just imagine,
Speaker 1: you know, the news counter, like the desk, five people
Speaker 1: and they're all just like um so because you know,
Speaker 1: like it's not precedented, right Like typically when you when
Speaker 1: you're a journalist, you're thinking about balance and you know,
Speaker 1: all these sorts of things. But when what's happened is
Speaker 1: objectively bad but it's an election, you're like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to talk about this, you know, So our
Speaker 1: biggest news anchor, I remember at one point Peter Man's Bridge.
Speaker 1: He's since retired, but he is like our I don't
Speaker 1: know what your biggest news you know, Walter cronkite or
Speaker 1: something like that, somebody like that, something like that. At
Speaker 1: one point he said to the panelist of like political experts,
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know how to ask this. Do
Speaker 1: you think he reads? He's like, I know, he literally
Speaker 1: said this, he said, I know he can read, but
Speaker 1: do you think he reads? He said, he said out
Speaker 1: of his own mouth. And this is the part that
Speaker 1: you're just like, am I being sure this is a joke,
Speaker 1: I'm being trolled. We're in a simulation when he said
Speaker 1: out of his own mouth, like I don't read that stuff.
Speaker 1: We're like the the security briefing. No, no, I just
Speaker 1: get up and I get up and I talk and yeah,
Speaker 1: like like this is where Canada was on that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. But what's revealed itself in the last few
Speaker 1: weeks is there's a significant contingent of Canadians that do
Speaker 1: not um not not just are critical of the media,
Speaker 1: but just don't consume it anymore. Like they've just decided
Speaker 1: I'd rather read blog post from Johnny than an actual
Speaker 1: news organization exactly, They'd rather than an actual news organization.
Speaker 1: And what really worries me too is I feel like, again,
Speaker 1: anyone who happens to be well meaning in this big movement.
Speaker 1: They don't have the self awareness to understand what they're
Speaker 1: really feeling and getting to the bottom of it because
Speaker 1: a lot of times me these Canadian flags that are
Speaker 1: waving you and I know what that really means. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily have the self awareness. The organizers
Speaker 1: don't have the honesty to say it, but the some
Speaker 1: of the people don't have the self awareness. You being weaponized,
Speaker 1: and to know that you're being weaponized, your resentment is
Speaker 1: being weaponized. The worst parts of your self are being
Speaker 1: brought to the surface and weaponized instead of dealt with
Speaker 1: for what they really are. And then you know, once
Speaker 1: you get those laws like no being uncomfortable and everything
Speaker 1: is allowed as long as it's done by Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: it's like then there's no hope. You know, really you've
Speaker 1: chosen your side, and uh, it's not a side that
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like in my that's the
Speaker 1: hard part because because us it's we could kind of
Speaker 1: land a plane here. But it's like it's like you said,
Speaker 1: it's a reasonable objection to be like I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not convinced about this piece of medicine. It's a reasonable
Speaker 1: objection to be like, hey, I don't know how I
Speaker 1: much I trust the government or uh, you know media,
Speaker 1: Like that's a reasonable Yeah, it's reasonable to say that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, would be like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like and to be like
Speaker 1: you know, um, hey, like I'd love to be able
Speaker 1: to do my job, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't like that you're making me do this, Like that's
Speaker 1: a reasonable objection. And then but then the next step
Speaker 1: in reason is to be like are there any alternatives?
Speaker 1: Can I show you negative tests? Can I do that?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And then at some point
Speaker 1: you're just like all right, well, hey man, I I
Speaker 1: would love to see if there was another way to
Speaker 1: do this, you know what I'm saying. If yo answer,
Speaker 1: but the dude standing next to you is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's right, and we need to disillusion the whole government,
Speaker 1: you should be like wait what Like yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like yeah, you know what I'm saying. And then,
Speaker 1: but like you said, it puts in a in a
Speaker 1: bad like somebody who might actually be like having a
Speaker 1: legitimate like yo, like is there because I feel like
Speaker 1: for me, like I'm annoyed to mask, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like masks were like that's to me. It was like,
Speaker 1: this is a reasonable compromise. This is a low Like
Speaker 1: I get it. You know what I'm saying. I'll put
Speaker 1: it on. It's stupid, it's annoying, but I get it.
Speaker 1: You don't want to put nothing in your body. All right,
Speaker 1: fine swearing masks. I don't care. It's stupid. It sucks,
Speaker 1: but so does COVID. Like that sucks. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I mean nobody likes COVID. And then the part that
Speaker 1: fresh meats, I'm like, okay, like these foods are like
Speaker 1: your sore winners. Because I'm like you, I get it.
Speaker 1: You wont like. Look it's lasted. It's lastly three years
Speaker 1: now because you wouldn't because you wouldn't do none of
Speaker 1: the stuff. Okay, and it's almost over. It's like a month.
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't get it. Look, you didn't get it.
Speaker 1: You guys got sick. A lot of people died. You won, Okay,
Speaker 1: Like she's like, go home, you won, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we wanted everybody to stay home for
Speaker 1: three weeks and wear a mask and be always won.
Speaker 1: It took three years, now, okay, you won. She's like
Speaker 1: the problems, that's the thing, man. It's like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: people don't understand what's going on inside of themselves, and
Speaker 1: they don't understand what is going on outside and what
Speaker 1: they're getting to and like, yes, because I understand. Look,
Speaker 1: be critical of the government, of course, I'm critical of government.
Speaker 1: I'm critical of big pharma. I'm critical mainstream news media.
Speaker 1: I'm critical of all this stuff. But don't engaged from it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then and when the person besides just like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, like I want to I want to
Speaker 1: end the vactually mandates too, And and here's my Confederate flag.
Speaker 1: Like that's when you got to be like wha what Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no one has still no one has still officially
Speaker 1: made a logical because there isn't one but a logical
Speaker 1: connection of being a patriot and carrying a Confederate flag.
Speaker 1: Just my thing. There's my thing. You know, if if
Speaker 1: if I was sick of the mandates and I and
Speaker 1: I opposed it, and I went out the first day
Speaker 1: to the to the trucker convoy and saw all these
Speaker 1: Canadian flags waving. I'd be like, wait, what what do
Speaker 1: we hear about? Mandates? What do we what are we doing?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? What is what is this about?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And then people and then
Speaker 1: hear people talking about we're taking our country back and
Speaker 1: blah blahm, like what what taking our country back? But
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. We just had
Speaker 1: an election a year ago. I'm just talking about vaccines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like taking it back from who I'm just saying, we
Speaker 1: just voted. Didn't you vote? Did you vote? Like that's
Speaker 1: the dude we chose. I don't understand. That's no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take the country back. You know
Speaker 1: that's problematic, right, Like, don't don't don't be talking about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're here about I thought we were here about vaccines.
Speaker 1: I was I was here about vaccines. Thank you so
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