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Get started now sign up. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Please use the promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: sent you. Please use the promo code Collins c O 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: l I n FanDuel Sports Book App. Sign up, Hi, everybody, 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Monday Morning Podcast. Mike Silver and 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I chop it up in about fifteen minutes talking about 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: the NFL games that matter. The big breaking news yesterday, 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: bigger than the NFL, was Lincoln Riley to coach USC. 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: It's a grand slam hire. So let me take you 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: back about two months after they fired Clayhelton, I called 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: Mike Bone, the USC athletic director. I called a couple 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: of significant boosters in the USC family, and I said, 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: I just want to remind everybody that when Pete Carroll 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: coached USC, there were no NFL teams here. The Clippers 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: were a joke, The Dodgers didn't draw four and a 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: half million and were not this good. There was not 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: an LAFC team. The Silicon Valley money was not as substantial. 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: People are now more distracted, the markets more distracted. I said, 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: you have to go big. Luke Fickle and Matt Campbell 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: is not the answer. This is not Norman, Oklahoma. This 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: is not a small town where the university is the 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: centerpiece of it. USC is a huge brand in Los Angeles, 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: but you will disappear very quickly in this city if 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: you can't cut through. We need a superstar coach, So 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: I told people connected to USC, go pro, Go get 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: a big, professional coach who's not a control freak, who 35 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: understands the LA market. Because eventually a USC is such 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: a high glamour job. Whoever succeeds here five or six 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: years USC's coach often John McKay, John Robinson, Pete Carroll 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: gets lured by the NFL. We don't need a college lifer. 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: We just need to have a culture that's legitimate. It's 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: been hurting since Pete left. So I of course had 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: no idea Lincoln Riley was a possibility. In fact, I 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: laughed at the suggestion he would leave Oklahoma for LSU. 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma is a better job than LSU. I 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: do not think Oklahoma is a better job than USC 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: because of the geography and the conference is much easier. 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: So I just thought USC had to go big. So 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: the night before a source who I trust, way up 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: the line at USC said, don't report anything. A lot 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: of this Matt Campbell stuff is just simply not true. 50 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: He may get a great job, it won't be ours. 51 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: And then you know, the story broke early in the 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: afternoon that Lincoln Riley had told his players at Oklahoma 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: he was leaving and going to USC. USC, because of geography, 54 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: is a better job than Oklahoma. It hasn't performed as 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: well as Oklahoma recently, but when USC is rolling, regardless 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: of who Oklahoma's coaches, you will USC will have more 57 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: NFL players. When you look at why Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma, 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: a it's a much easier path to go through Oregon 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: and Washington and Utah than it is to go through 60 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Bama and Auburn and Florida and Georgia and LSU. It's 61 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: it's just a much easier path. Secondly, what USC sold 62 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley on was this, this is the entertainment capital 63 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: of the world. We know how to market, promote, build, 64 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: and help stars flourish. And you are a superstar coach. 65 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: There is no reason you should ever have to take 66 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: a backseat in any conference to anybody. And I think 67 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley understood that that when you come to Los Angeles, 68 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: you will be the most discussed coach in college football. Remember, 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: television networks are dying to put USC on Texas. A 70 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: and M doesn't have a national fan base, It doesn't 71 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: give you Dallas or Houston as a market. When USC 72 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: is rolling, the second biggest city in America is watching. 73 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: And that is why networks like to put the Dodgers on, 74 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: and the Lakers on, and the Rams on, and especially 75 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: in a sport dominated by smaller rural towns, the USC 76 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Trojans on. So you know, networks are doing backflips over 77 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: this the minute. Notre Dame or a USC with massive 78 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: national exposure and potential get the right coach. They want 79 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: them on every weekend. The other thing about Lincoln Riley 80 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: is that California. They call it a brain drain when 81 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: a lot of college graduates leave an area of the 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Midwest and they go to New York or LA or 83 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: you know, Dallas, Atlanta, and they leave the Midwest for 84 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: cooler cities, warmer weather, more opportunities. Well, California has had 85 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: a recruit drain because UCLA has more basketball school than 86 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: football power. When USC's not right, the state high school 87 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: football stars leave, They jettison California. They want to be seen. 88 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: I mean Alabama's quarterback California kid, Clemson quarterback California kid. 89 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: You start looking around the NFL at how many quarterbacks 90 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Brady Aaron Rodgers are California kids. So there has been 91 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: a fast train out of Los Angeles for about six 92 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: years with some of the nation's best talent. So if 93 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: you can retain that, I would say by the middle 94 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: of year two, And that's what it took for Pete Carroll. 95 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: The middle of year two the program started to take off. 96 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: The good news for Lincoln Riley, there's some talent here, 97 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: it's mostly on the perimeter. They need a star running back. 98 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: They have to rebuild their offensive line, and they need more. 99 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: They have some. They need more big NFL bodies on 100 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: the defensive front, but there's some corners and receivers and 101 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: tight ends. They have a young quarterback, Jackson Dart who 102 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: will You'll know who he is by next year if 103 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: you've not watched him play. There's already stories now of 104 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: multiple Oklahoma recruits and multiple California kids looking to enter 105 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: the transfer portal and to join USC. So this is 106 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: an announcement that will be made Monday the press conference, 107 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: either early Tuesday or late Tuesday at the Coliseum. They've 108 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: already booked a spot there. I've been told the school 109 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: has so it's the right higher. You've got to go big, 110 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: You've got to cut through. This is a wildly competitive 111 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: and distracted market in Los Angeles. Matt Campbell is a 112 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: perfect fit in Oklahoma. It's the only game in town. 113 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: He'll win games. He wonted Toledo, he wanted Iowa State. 114 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: He's a perfect fit. But I don't think, nor did 115 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: I ever think he would be the perfect fit for USC. 116 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: A couple of things to note here. One of the 117 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: first calls to congratulate USC, I'm told was Pete Carroll 118 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: once a Trojano was a trojan. Pete Carroll called the 119 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: athletic department Mike Bone and congratulated and was so happy 120 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: and so optimistic about what Lincoln Riley could do. The 121 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: second thing is one of the advantages Pete Carroll had 122 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: when he was at USC is the conference was down, 123 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: and then later Chip Kelly entered it. Oregon and Jim 124 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: harbaught Stanford. But the same thing is going on outside 125 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: of Oregon. Washington's looking for direction. Utah and UCLA have 126 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: the right coaches and they're solid, but they won't contend 127 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: with USC once the recruits start piling in the conference. 128 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Now the Erazona schools are okay, Colorado's just okay. Stanford 129 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: cal now are a little off the rails. The conference 130 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: is built to take over very very quickly. Something else 131 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: that was thrown out is, you know, I can't believe 132 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: that Lincoln Riley wasn't loyal to Oklahoma. We'll remember Oklahoma 133 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: wasn't loyal to Lincoln Riley. They broker that deal to 134 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: go to the SEC. They didn't ask Lincoln Riley to 135 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: do that. And the truth of the matter is it 136 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: can be a little bit of a cesspool in recruiting 137 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: in the SEC. There's a lot of schools and I 138 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: don't include Alabama in this, but a lot of the 139 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: schools chasing Alabama are handing players the bag. There is 140 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of ugly recruiting going on in the SEC. 141 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley a little concerned Oklahoma could get lost. He 142 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: doesn't believe he should have to take a backseat to anybody. 143 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: He may not fit the Southern culture as well as 144 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: he fits the Western culture in the Pac twelve. Also, 145 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: remember Lincoln and Riley could go to the NFL any 146 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: time he wants. Stan Crunkie is great friends with Jerry Jones. 147 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if Jerry Jones and Lincoln 148 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: Riley did not have a discussion about this opportunity. And 149 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you Jerry told him go West, young man. 150 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: So this is a real opportunity. The number one college 151 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: football program west of the Mississippi, in the number two 152 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: market in the country, networks vying to get USC on. 153 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: They've got the quarterback in Jackson Dart for the next 154 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: two years. Outside of Oregon, many of the top programs 155 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: like Washington and Stanford are reeling. It's a perfect higher 156 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: it's the perfect time and it will not take long 157 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: to turn it around. You know one NFL take that 158 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: I'd like to get out on this podcast before I 159 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: get to Mike Silver. I thought it was very interesting 160 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: when it was announced that Matt Stafford was going to 161 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: the Rams. The over under for the Detroit Lions did 162 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: not change, and the over under for the Rams win 163 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: total changed half a game. You are seeing the downside 164 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: to Matt Stafford. Third straight game of the pick six. 165 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: He misses open throws, he can be erratic, he's inconsistent, 166 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: He isn't always in the biggest games. The best quarterback 167 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: once again, Aaron Rodgers looks like a different level of quarterback. 168 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: The Rams and Stafford are not completely healthy, but that's 169 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: not an excuse because the Green Bay Packers have been 170 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: the most injury depleted football team in the National Football League. 171 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: I would argue for the last three weeks they won 172 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: missing eleven starters in Arizona. They could have won in 173 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: Minnesota missing their top tight end, running back, left tackle, corner, 174 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: and linebackers Zadarius Smith. I don't want to hear injuries. 175 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: I like Matt Stafford, but it's remarkable how he was 176 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: sold as the savior of the Rams, and Carson Wentz 177 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: was much maligned going to the Colts. Is there that 178 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: big of a difference. Wentz is bigger, has as good 179 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: an arm, is more athletic, and, like Stafford, makes the 180 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: reckless mistake. I like Matt Stafford, but this idea that 181 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: he was going to be the savior for the La Rams. 182 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: He's better than Jared Goff. But what you're seeing is 183 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: what Lyon fans saw for years. Great talent, not a 184 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: super athlete, not wildly mobile. He's not going to spin 185 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: it like Aaron Rodgers, He's not going to move around 186 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray. He's clearly not the winner or pre 187 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: snap as good as Tom Brady. He's an upgrade over 188 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, but the idea, there's this massive gap between 189 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, who the media thought would change the Rams, 190 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz, who everybody thought was a dubious acquisition 191 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: by the Colts. I think Stafford slightly better, but I 192 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: don't see the huge gap. Aaron Rodgers, missing five of 193 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: his best players, was clearly playing at a different level 194 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: with a bad toe and limping around than Matt Stafford. 195 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes there's things you don't want to hear, but have 196 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: to come to terms with them right now. In the AFC, 197 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: New England Patriots looked like the best team. There's a 198 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: lot of good football in the AFC, but everybody's got 199 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: a major liability. The Ravens secondary, the Browns quarterback, the 200 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Steelers offensive line, Cincinnati Bengals lack of experience, the Buffalo 201 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Bills run game and pass blocking offensive line. No team 202 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: in the AFC, including the Kansas City Chiefs, checks more 203 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: playoff boxes than the New England Patriots. Nobody coach best 204 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: in the league, coordinators fantastic defense, gives up a few 205 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: big plays, disciplined few penalties whence time of possession top ten, 206 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: offensive line, run games top five in the NFL. Their 207 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: quarterback doesn't make the big mistake. They don't have the 208 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: over the top offensive component. But let's be honest. You 209 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: start looking around the NFL and the Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs, 210 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek Killpatrick Mahomes relationships are rare. 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You're either too young or too limited. 254 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: And you watch the Aaron Rodgers and you'll watch Brady 255 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: and you're like, it's so rare. It's even the great ones, 256 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: like Herbert's a huge young talent. He struggles, he still 257 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: gets lost. But you know what's remarkable in this This 258 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: is where Aaron Rodgers is different. So I'll get to 259 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Rogers in a second, because I think Green Bay's the 260 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: best team in the league. But Brady with a healthy Gronk, 261 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Mike is so different when you give him a decent 262 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: running game and a healthy Gronk, that is that's his life, 263 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: persu He is not the same quarterback the Goat without Gronk. 264 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: And I watched him and I thought, why is he 265 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: fighting for Gronk? It doesn't matter about Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, 266 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: ab Gronk's healthy, He's a completely different player. And you know, 267 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich is quietly doing some stuff over there that 268 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if the casual fan notices and honestly, 269 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if NFL owners who have openings are 270 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: going to notice, but you know, we kind of underestimate 271 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich collectively. We did it. As a player. He's 272 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: got that horrible long release and he's kind of slow, 273 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: and you know, he just looked like a plotting guy. 274 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: So he had his moments as a quarterback, but a 275 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: lot of times people thought, you know, he's just you know, 276 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: he's not my kind of quarterback. And now as a coach, 277 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, Bruce arians is telling us, he's like, look, 278 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm not running the offense Byron left which is I'm 279 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: not even in the meetings. He's doing all this. And 280 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: obviously they have Tom Brady and obviously they have all 281 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: that talent you just referred to. And yes, grunk makes 282 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: a massive difference, but we've seen Tom Brady not look 283 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: awesome during various times since he's been on Tampa. Byron 284 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: left Which is doing a lot of this. And yeah, 285 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: when you talk about Rogers, I mean, I'm watching that 286 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: game Sunday and I'm thinking, well, we're hearing suddenly about 287 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: how hurt Matthew Stafford is. And I'm not denying or 288 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to doubt that he is. But it's 289 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: weird that after a bye week, we're now hearing about 290 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: all these ailments, and every time Stafford does something wrong, 291 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: they're saying, well, he's clearly not right. Well, we know 292 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers isn't right. He's coming off of COVID. He 293 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: has a broken pinky toe and he's taken a shot 294 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: for it that seems to wear off during games, and 295 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: he looks amazing. So I'm not saying that every other 296 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: injured quarterback should be able to do that. But you're right, 297 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: it's supernatural sometimes. No, I mean Aaron is you know, 298 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: it's he didn't practice and he comes out and it's 299 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: it's funny. I said this about Stafford. I said this 300 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: about Stafford. Is Stafford goes to the Rams, he's a savior. 301 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: Wentz goes to the Colts. It's a dubious contract. Wentz 302 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: is bigger, Wentz is stronger, Wentz is more athletic, and 303 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: they both have a propensity to be reckless. But it 304 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: doesn't stick to Stafford. It sticks to Wentz. And I 305 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: was watching Stafford and I never forget this. He goes 306 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: from Detroit to the Rams. The over undergoes up half 307 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: a game. Vegas didn't buy into this this messiah, and 308 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: I like matt I really do. And maybe he's hurt, 309 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: but come on, give me a break. This whole league's hurt. 310 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Trent Dofer used to tell me this year's ago, 311 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: He's like October first, everyone's hurts health, especially him. Yeah. Right, well, 312 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: and I'll take it even a different level because it's 313 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: only recently Andy by recently, i'd say the last year, 314 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: so that people are even doing this to wins for 315 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: a long time, he could do no wrong. You'd, you know, 316 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: to go back to uh gambling, which I don't usually do. 317 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: You look at the MVP odds on Carson Waits at 318 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: any given time since twenty seventeen, and it's always like, huh, 319 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: like are you watching the same thing? I am. He's 320 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: so highly regarded, and so I would I throw off 321 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: at the equation And it's not a popular thing to do, 322 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: given how bad his team is and how rough it 323 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: has been for him this season with very few weapons. 324 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: But Matthew Stafford just did something that hasn't been done 325 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: since about shob He's thrown pick sixes in three consecutive 326 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: games and when shab was doing it that year, it 327 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: was like the world was combusting, and I'd had a 328 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: pretty good career until then. It was like, oh my god, 329 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: this is a nightmare. Stafford does a lot of good things, 330 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: but he's now doing the things that the Rams gave 331 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: up so much for just to rid themselves of the 332 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: fact that Jared Goff was doing those things turnover wise 333 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff did a lot of good things there too, 334 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: And so I think it goes back to the first 335 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: thing you said, it's not a perfect you know, we 336 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: wanted to just be like, oh this quarterbacks there. So 337 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: now it's always good and it's very rare that that happens. 338 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for most of his career has been that way, 339 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: you know. I think Lamar has shown vestiges of it. 340 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has shown vestiges of it. Deshaun Watson when 341 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: he has played has shown vestiges of it. Mahomes until 342 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: recently has been like that. But it's it's not a 343 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: normal thing for someone to just always look like they're 344 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: in control. Yeah, well, you know, my sometimes I remember 345 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: talking to Chris Carter, the Hall of Fame Wide receiver 346 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: about this he said, when you have a gift, it 347 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: could be your singing voice. You're gonna sing in the shower. 348 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: When you have a gift, you're gonna want to show it. 349 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: Stafford has a gift. He has it. He has a 350 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: j color arm. Just high school people were like, oh, 351 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: it's an NFL arm in high school and because of 352 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: because of that, and Josh Allen has this when you 353 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: have a great arm, Brady has a good arm. But 354 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: Brady realizing he has a good arm, is really consumed 355 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: with his mechanics. Right when you have a great arm, 356 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: there's a propensity to get a little sloppy. Mahomes does it, 357 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen does it? Stafford very loose it? Yeah, Michael 358 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: you get very loose Randall Cunningham did it? You know, 359 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: as great as some of the moments that those people 360 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: have provided us, Eli Manning is a guy who tried 361 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: to force a lot of balls in there because he 362 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: knew he had that arm. And so yeah, it's an evolution. 363 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: And listen as much as I you know, as much 364 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: as I talked about last year, how okay, well, that 365 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: whole Brady Belichick thing, it's kind of put to bed. 366 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: Given the Brady just went to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 367 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: and what a super Bowl. You know, Brady was also 368 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: coached in a very very good way that way, right Belichick, 369 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: and and certainly Josh McDaniels, like, let's let's give these 370 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: guys all that credit to Charlie Weiss before that. Um, 371 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, Bill O'Brien for a while. But but when 372 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: you when it's pounded into you that you don't have 373 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: to wow us with your gift the singing in the 374 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: shower equivalent, then that probably helps too. Yeah. So, speaking 375 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: of Belichick, Um, you know, my takeaway is if I 376 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: gave you Mike eight boxes that it usually takes to 377 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: get to a conference championship. Um, know, excellent coaching generally 378 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: top end coordinating health, the ability to run the ball 379 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: and control the clock. A defense that is at least 380 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: situationally good. Hopefully you generate a pass rush. You don't 381 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: need big sacks, but make the other quarterback uncomfortable. Quarterback 382 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: quarterback play, Yes, quarterback play doesn't have to be great. 383 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's an example, but it has to be It helps, 384 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: And then I would say it also helps to be 385 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: able to be dynamic, occasionally getting over the top touchdowns 386 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: New England. If there's eight boxes, check seven. And they 387 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: may be so good at the seven. I look at 388 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: them today, Mike, and if you told me four oh 389 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: one k, you gotta bet at in somebody. I like Buffalo. 390 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: I hate their offensive line. They have at times abandoned 391 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: the run game. There was a there was a moment 392 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: in the Bills Saints game where Josh Allen on back 393 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: to back plays, had he been Matt Ryan, would have 394 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: lost eight yards twice back to back. He runs makes 395 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: positive games games, and I thought to myself, like, we 396 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: just don't understand how bad the Bill's old line is 397 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: because of how gifted Josh Allen is. Right, And I 398 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: look at New England today, Mike, and if I told 399 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: you New England against Aaron Rodgers, New England against Brady 400 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl, well I'm not I wouldn't be shocked. 401 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean I would have until and I know Tennessee 402 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: was depleted, but until I saw what they did to Tennessee, 403 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: I would have probably tried to throw some water on that. 404 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: And they have a stretch coming up with Bills and Colts, 405 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna find out more. But you know, 406 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: it's not far fetch. Now I've brought back my column 407 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: thirty two questions, previously at Yahoo and NFL dot Com. 408 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Now it's at Bally Sports. And I had to rank 409 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: somebody one last week that first week, and I ranked 410 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens one, and we talked about this on but 411 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: I kind of trust them in the end. They're so 412 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: they play so many close games there, they tend to 413 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: be really clutch, you know. You and I feel very 414 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: similarly about Lamar and the steps he's even taking. Now 415 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: they've had some injuries that are real significant Marcus Peters. 416 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: You know, I do believe that John Martin Dale will 417 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: find a way to get that defense in playoff shape. Then, 418 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: So that would be the team if I had to 419 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: look at the AFC. But you're right, we may not 420 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: know what's going on in the AFC till you know, 421 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: early January, you know, because it's just a weird year, 422 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: and you know, we thought the Chiefs were like that 423 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: and now you're kind of looking at it them going well, 424 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: that holds divisions bunched up and they've won a couple 425 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: of close ones and they do have ma homes, so um, 426 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, we were both feeling pretty 427 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: good about the Colts, I think going into Sunday and 428 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: then not like they just completely laid an egg. But 429 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: it was weird. I mean, their identity really has been 430 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, and it's like something happened, like they forgot 431 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: he was on the team for like an hour. It 432 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: was really weird. Yeah, you know, I want to ask 433 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: you about a team, the San Francisco forty nine Ers 434 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: that you know well. So we both know John Lynch. 435 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't know Kyle particularly well, but I know John 436 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: really really well covered him. He used to work at Fox, 437 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about all these young quarterbacks 438 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: and Mac Jones. I think it was understood that was 439 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: the best landing spot whoever went to New England. That's 440 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: a good spot. You're not asking him to do it. 441 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't have Mac doesn't have to overcome anything, right, right, 442 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: everybody else is overcoming something. But the winner in this 443 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: maybe Trey Lance, because like Mahomes, he's got this kind 444 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: of accomplished veteran. He's not playing the system's fairly complex. 445 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: And I watched the Niners kind of dismantle with some 446 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: injuries of their own Minnesota, and it happens every year, Mike. 447 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: A team pops like a week or two before Thanksgiving, 448 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: begat a little healthier. And I watched the sand because 449 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: I think Minnesota's really good. I think, I really, I 450 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: think they're really good. And I watched the Niners backers, Yeah, yeah, 451 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: And I watched the Niners. Are the Niners? That team? 452 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Do you buy them? Next six weeks? I do? And listen, 453 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: I basically kicked dirt on them three weeks ago because 454 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: I went to watch that game against the Cardinals where 455 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy was, you know, doing Joe Montana things on 456 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: that field, and I don't think I love cold, but 457 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: I don't think it was just because Colt suddenly became 458 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: Joe Montana and they just they didn't look like they 459 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: had any juice. They looked they had gotten some guys back. 460 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: It just didn't look good. And I thought, you know what, 461 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: everything I thought all off season at all season is wrong. 462 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: They're not good. I thought going into the season they 463 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: were the class of the NFC and clearly the class 464 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: of that division. And obviously I was wrong about the Cardinals. 465 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: So that's a separate topic, but I just I was sure, 466 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: and after that game I was like, Okay, got it wrong, 467 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: kind of like what you're saying about the Bills right 468 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: now and what could be happening, But like, I got 469 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: that one wrong. And then as soon as that happened, 470 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: they played the Rams and look different and it continues 471 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: to look different. So yeah, I think they're the best 472 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: football team in California as we speak, which is weird 473 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: because the Chargers were coming up a big win and 474 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: the Rams had a good start. But I think they 475 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: could be that team. And you know, when you go 476 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: back to Trey, lads like, let me take you on 477 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: the whole roller coasters. So they make that trade, which 478 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: is a dramatic thing to do. They gave up so much, 479 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: and I know I've talked to Kyle and he was 480 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: influenced by Stafford and not getting Stafford and what the 481 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: Rams keep doing, and he's like, we got to do 482 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: something big. The Seahawks do it, we gotta do it. 483 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: But then I believe he talked himself out to Mac Jones. 484 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: I stand by that report he given though the outcome 485 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: and you know end up being that way, and there 486 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: are good reasons to talk to yourself into Trey Lance, 487 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: very very good reasons and then what happened in trading 488 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: camp was the first week they freaked. They were like, well, 489 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy's having his best camp, but like, Trey Lance is 490 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: getting it so fast. He's so smart. They knew he 491 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: was smart, they just were like, he's crazy smart, like 492 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: we've never seen this. And so about a week into 493 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: camp they were like, we the plan is Jimmy, but 494 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: maybe we just have to play him now. And then 495 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: what happened to Trey Lance after that was what happens 496 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: to many, many, many young players, which is not some 497 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: dramatic like just like, okay, well look it's hard. Kyle's 498 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: offense is hard, the NFL is hard. He's leveling off 499 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. And when he started to level off, 500 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: he got in his head a little bit. He wasn't 501 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: as loose, he wasn't as confident. Meanwhile, Jimmy, to his credit, 502 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: ascended and was giving them the best they'd seen of him. 503 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: And so instead of we gotta play Trey Lance now, 504 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: it was the original plan, which is play Jimmy, try 505 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: to do the Mahomes thing. And so yes, the answer 506 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: is I think they're good. I do think he's in 507 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: a great situation. Trey Lance and I do think it 508 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: could end up being really really special. Yeah, and I 509 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: don't see a need or a priority. It's almost like 510 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: when Andrew Wiggins went to the Warriors, he was seen 511 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: as a trade piece, and then all of a sudden, 512 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, he gives us twenty four points 513 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: about every third game. I'll just keep him. Yeah. I think. 514 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: I think with Garoppolo, you look at it and you're like, 515 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's some limitations, but when the running game's jelling, 516 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: Mike Garoppolo lead you down the field, he does well. 517 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he is very, very loved in that locker 518 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: room as a player and as a guy. And he 519 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: is obviously tough, though he's, unfortunately for him, been injured 520 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: a lot. I know in some ways he's not the 521 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: perfect quarterback for Kyle at all. There I could do 522 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: a whole segment on that, But in one way, he 523 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: is the absolute perfect quarterback for Kyle. And I've talked 524 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: to a lot of players about this there and coaches. 525 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: He can handle the venting, the tantrums, the negativity, Kyle's 526 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: a perfectionist. Kyle gets angry during games, Kyle gets angry 527 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: during practice. He can get out after you, and some 528 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: people don't handle that well Jimmy because of how he's 529 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: made up. He fine, It bounces right off him, and 530 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: you know that there's something to be said for that. 531 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: And listen, he does throw one of the most beautiful 532 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: balls with the best releases in this sport. It's not 533 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's there's no debate about the physical talent. 534 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: It's I know, people go, well, is he really like, no, 535 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: he really throws one of the elite balls every year. 536 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: I talk about this on the Herd. I say, gosh, 537 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: we're reaching a saturation point. There's so many great quarterbacks. 538 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: We don't even need him anymore. And then I look 539 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: up and I watched Big Ben and I watched Cam 540 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, ten teams need a quarterback. There's 541 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: no question. And you know what's interesting, Mike, and you'll 542 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: have insight on this. So it is. I talked to 543 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: an NFL general manager yesterday. I was dry, I had 544 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: a thirty minute drive. I called him. He was available, 545 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: and we talked for twenty eight minutes on this and 546 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: I asked him about picket Kid at Pittsburgh. Yeah, I'm curious, Yeah, yeah. 547 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: I asked him about you know, the Liberty kid. I 548 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: asked him about you know, I'm not sure if I 549 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: asked him about the kid at Reno that everybody likes. 550 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, a lot of these guys 551 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: are talented, he said, but nobody jumps off the tape. 552 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: And and this GM said, we looked at Pickett two 553 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: years ago when he was a sophomore, and we liked him. 554 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: But he plateaued, he's the exact same quarterback. There's nobody 555 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: that's twitchy enough. They're they're just guys that if they 556 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: go at seventeenth in city year, but maybe that Kirk Cousins. 557 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: But they will all get talked. The three guys will 558 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: be tucked into top five. That's right. So it works. Now. 559 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Now if they can find a loophole and get Caleb 560 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Williams into this draft, that would solve a lot of problems. Well, 561 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: you know what he said. He said, when you have 562 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: a bad draft, somebody will do an EJ manual. They 563 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: like the kid, yes, they like the kid, yes, And 564 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, you talk yourself into EJ. Manuel, who, by 565 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: the way, I've met him, he's great guy. And he said, 566 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: this is going to he said, Colin, this is what's 567 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: going to happen. People are going to talk themselves because 568 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: of desperation into it. So pivot. Let me Mike pivot. 569 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Let me Mike pivot to This is that I think 570 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: Aaron should stay in Green Bay, and I think they're 571 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: going to rip his contract up and resign him, and 572 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: I think they are. Russell is not happy. That's fluid. 573 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson Denver feels right to me, goes where he goes. 574 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: But it's really interesting when you look around, Mike, we 575 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: got ten teams that need a quarterback. There's no great 576 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: college quarterbacks. I wonder give me your insight in this. 577 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: If somebody came to Seattle and said seven first round 578 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: picks in a starting corner, do you think they'd move him? 579 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, YEP, I don't. I don't think it's going 580 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: to take that. I mean, I am curious in many 581 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: ways about Seattle because I went through this in twenty seventeen. 582 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: I went up there before they played the Rams late 583 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: in that season and it was you'll remember, it was 584 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: a changing of the guard game. The Sean mc jared 585 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: god Rams came in and just smoked him. And remember 586 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: I remember telling Eric Donald he was so good that game. 587 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: I remember telling him after the game in that little 588 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: locker room, you should have walked off the field like 589 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: the third quarter and demanded to renegotiate, like that's how 590 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: good it was. And you know, I wrote coming out 591 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: of that game, I said, listen, they're blowing it all up. 592 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: The Seahawks as we know them are gonna be gone. 593 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna We're talking Bennett and Sherman and eventually Earle 594 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: and other cam is gonna go April, you know, with injuries. 595 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, they're going to rebuild about 596 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: around Bobby Wagner on defense as the centerpiece and Russell. 597 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 1: And then I said, does Pete Carroll want to stick 598 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: around for this? And it was a fair question. I 599 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: mean he was, you know, late sixties at the time, 600 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: and you know, Pete's been so good. Does he want 601 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: to stick around for a rebuild? Now he did. They 602 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: did rebuild on the fly, and they were amazing. They 603 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: got back to the playoffs and you know right away, 604 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: and you know now they're in maybe an even you know, 605 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: more glaring place where you could argue for the rebuild 606 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: and if Russell doesn't want to be there and you 607 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: want to rebuild, and I think they have a phenomenal 608 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: GM and John Schneider. If you're Pete, are you like 609 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. Now, I know Pete has so 610 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: much confidence in his ability to find those guys, the 611 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: Richard Shermans and the camp Chancellor along with John Schneider, 612 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: and to fit them into his defense and to make 613 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: it cool. But he already got rid of you know, 614 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: he's already done staff turnover a ton, including last year. 615 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: You know, Russell had one foot out the door last offseason, 616 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: and they patch that up. I think they maybe organizationally, 617 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: I could see a scenario where Pete and Russell are gone. 618 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's interesting because I said the other 619 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: day I'd move Bobby Wagner. I'd get a third round pick. 620 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: I'd go to Russell and try to renegotiate his contract. 621 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: I'd keep Dwayne Brown. If I could move Jamal Adams 622 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: and get the right trade back, I'd do it. But 623 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: they are so bad on the right side of the 624 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: offensive lines, center, right guard, right tackle. They're so weak 625 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: at corner. You know, the defensive front is hit and miss. 626 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: I you know, there are a lot of times in 627 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: the NFL there's a team that's rebuilding that doesn't want 628 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: to acknowledge it's rebuilding. Yeah, I mean it feels like 629 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: the Giants are a prime example. They're actually rebuilding. They 630 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: think they've got players, they're rebuilding. They really don't have 631 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: the players. But Seattle is rebuilding well. And by the way, 632 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: if you miss on the quarterback, that that means you're 633 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: still rebuilding. That's a Giant's like if they'd hit on 634 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback and talk about talking yourself into someone and 635 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, drafting them high in Daniel Jones, if that 636 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: was a hit, it wouldn't matter. They'd be like, they'd 637 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: be the Bengals, right, They'd be like, well, you know, 638 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: we don't have everything, but we can win now because 639 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback is so good. But they have Daniel Jones. 640 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: So it's like, who can we fire to keep Joe 641 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: Judge employed another year? You know? So finally, Mike Silver here, 642 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: Finally I went back and looked at the last like 643 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: fifteen years in the NFL, on average, seven coaches get replaced. 644 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: So we know the Raiders are gonna have a new coach. 645 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: That's one. And I said, Vic Fangio and Matt Nagee 646 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: feel like two and three. Ye, but you know Fangio 647 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: beats the Chargers, they hang around. I think they needed 648 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: a quarterback more than a coach. I think they'll go 649 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: heavy after Deshaun Watson and am I missing something here? 650 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: So now he's probably out. Raiders absolutely have a coach. 651 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: I think Fangio they probably go young, progressive, offensive mind. 652 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: But Lincoln Riley is now off the market, he's at USC. 653 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: Is there any coach I'm missing here that's on the 654 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: hot seat that I'm not mentioning because it averages seventy year? Yeah? Well, 655 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: first of all, there's always a surprise, you know, they 656 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: don't always there's always a surprise. But you know, let's 657 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: see how the Vikings finish. That could turn bad fast, right. 658 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: I like Mike Zimmer, though I like him, I do 659 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: love him. Well, here's what here's what you get with 660 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer and Vic Fangio. This is the argument they're 661 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: so good schematically and Fangio is like next level. Like 662 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: if these guys are so good schematically on defense, that 663 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: you might they might not be your perfect head coach, 664 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: but then you like having that, Like even when the 665 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: Broncos aren't that good, there'll be a time. There'll be 666 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: a couple of games this year where you're like, like 667 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: Dallas this year, like how did Denver beat Dallas? Vic 668 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: Fangio got in, you know, Kellen Moore and Dak Prescott's 669 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: head for that one game because he's just really good 670 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: at that. But um, yeah, I think you look at um, 671 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: Will Urban stay probably m yeah, I think you look 672 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: at um. You know, are the Lions for sure gonna 673 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: roll with Dan Campbell or they gonna try to get 674 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: the other Campbell again and you know, maybe succeed this time. 675 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: You know. I again, I'm not trying to start stuff. 676 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: I'm just saying here we are. There's a long way 677 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: to go. Also, teams can can tail off fast, and 678 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: we could see, you know, a team we think is 679 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: doing pretty well all of a sudden just fall off 680 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: the cliff. And by the way, it's a business. If 681 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: the Giants won Sunday, good for them. The offense still 682 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: look crappy, but they did win. Awful. If they go 683 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: four and twelve and fans are booing and it looks 684 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: or four and thirteen and it looks really really bad, 685 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: are we sure Joe Judge is coming back? I would 686 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: say no. So I will say this though, it people 687 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: bailed on Brian Flores. Have you noticed two has got limitations? 688 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: But basically their recipe is too as accurate. Limit his 689 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: exposure with defense, special teams, and run game. I watched 690 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: Miami now back to back weeks. I watched every snap today, 691 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you can You're not gonna win a 692 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl that way. You can win nine games in 693 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: this league ten games plan that. I get frustrated though, 694 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: Like remember a couple of years ago where like the 695 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: Falcons finished strong and they're like, we're keeping Dan Quinn 696 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: because they played hard for him and they finish strong, 697 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: And I'm like, so he doesn't get dinged for their 698 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: season being over in November because they were so unprepared 699 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: and so bad. And I like Dan, but ibviously, I'm 700 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: just saying, you're right, the Dolphins aren't play well. But 701 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: I can't talk about Flores without being like, what the 702 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: hell were they doing? Like, how do you start that way? 703 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: As how do you as a serious team that almost 704 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year and you know, and might 705 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: have had they played Fitzpatrick the whole way? How do 706 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: you how do you start that way? It's just it's 707 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: so bad, all right? Mike Silver great Stuff YouTube channel. 708 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: Check out Mike silverall his takes. Also at the volume 709 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: of sports Instagram, rate reviews, subscribe Twitter. I want to 710 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: finish off my cocktail. It's great to see you, my friend, 711 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: and we will talk very soon. Oh, by the way, 712 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: I know you love Cal and Justin Wilcox. Do you 713 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: think he stays? I think it's an evolving situation, and 714 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: it seems weird to be talking about it after Cal 715 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: just got pummeled in a game that was pretty important 716 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: to them, not as important as the rivalry game, which 717 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: blessedly Cal was heavily on the right side of against Stamford. 718 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I love my school, I love the program. 719 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: I know that Cal has some parts of it coaching 720 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: there that make it harder. And I think Justin Wilcox 721 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: is a great person who doesn't complain about that. So 722 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: if a school like Wahington correctly identifies his very good 723 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: coaching and says with a different set of priorities and resources, 724 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: he might really thrive. I get that. I would like 725 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: to tell them to keep their grubby hands off by coach. 726 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: I think we're on the verge of something as a 727 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: program and I know I would love for this not 728 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: to be a recurring conversation, but it is a it 729 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: is an evolving situation. We'll be monitoring. I will tell 730 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: you Washington my hunch as they hire Fresnel States coach 731 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: Klin Debors, I believe it is. I think they're going 732 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: to hire him, So I think Justin's safe. I do 733 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: feel like you and I just like mess it around 734 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: on a weekend and you know, calling our people could 735 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: probably solve like eighteen college programs based on how things 736 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: went this past weekend, because it is pretty amazing. Like 737 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm at a botanitzvah outside in Oakland and my phone 738 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: rings or buzzes after the ceremony and I'm like, oh, 739 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: it's calling. What's up? So I get that and You're like, hey, 740 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: can you like look into some stuff? And I'm like, yeah, sure, 741 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: even though the person in question is currently on a 742 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: football field right now, and you know, yea later in 743 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: the day, I was walking the dog and we had answers. 744 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like, you know, if if you and 745 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to go into like a consulting is 746 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: this for college programs, we'd probably be worth Everyboddy great 747 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: seeing you buddy, you too, thanks for having me. I'll 748 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: see you soon, all right. The volume