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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Alright, litsen Alive on a Monday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great ze Ghibe

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Speaker 2: is there. This is the first time since when full band.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're on since we've been, but I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure because a golf outing.

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Speaker 2: You're right, it was the golf outing. I think you're

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Speaker 2: exactly right. I think it was the golf outing.

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Speaker 4: Was the last one, because then you were off.

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Speaker 5: That was a Memorial on a Monday, right Monday, the

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Speaker 5: second Monday, June second, and then I think you were off.

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Speaker 2: I think you were off Tuesday Wednesday, and then I

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Speaker 2: was Memorial Thursday Friday.

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Speaker 5: I wonder what I was off Tuesday Wednesday for sounds great.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I went down.

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Speaker 5: I think you I think you had.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you had to go down.

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Speaker 3: To week before. That was the week before he was

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Speaker 3: down in Columbus Wednesday. You were down Thursday and Friday,

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Speaker 3: I was in Italy. I came back. Uh, that Monday,

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Speaker 3: we had the golf outing. Zagura needed time to prepare

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Speaker 3: for the birthday on Friday.

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Speaker 4: I just took Friday off.

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Speaker 5: But I thought you did.

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Speaker 4: There was Friday little. It was just that Friday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so maybe it was that week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, somewhere.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it was. I thought it was the

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Speaker 5: golf outing. That could be wrong.

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Speaker 6: No, golf outder is the first time we were together

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Speaker 6: for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Because he had been gone. Oh that's right.

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Speaker 4: So it felt like a big day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we're all here. We're all here. How's it going.

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Speaker 5: Three weeks dude? Three weeks old today? Walking? Is he walking?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: He is not.

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Speaker 6: He is eating like a champion. As they say, it

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Speaker 6: takes a village. I mean between me and Miss Kay

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Speaker 6: and the Great Nana. Nana's I said, we're going to

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Speaker 6: build a statue in her honor at the end of this.

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Speaker 5: She is tremendous, capable of and willing and capable of.

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Speaker 5: She's amazing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Great Nana. Yeah, you're one of the few

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Speaker 6: who have been in the come to the abode. You've

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Speaker 6: met young Luca, had a great hangout.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 6: Ready, I can see you right for your trips and.

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Speaker 5: Legendary. They were both great already was locked in.

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Speaker 4: So into it, both of them so into it. Yeah, it'some.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So it's been Uh, it's been wild.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like I think that what I've noticed is

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Speaker 6: being fifteen years removed from the last time I had

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Speaker 6: a newborn.

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Speaker 4: You block a lot of.

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Speaker 6: This stuff out because yeah, you do, otherwise you're like,

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Speaker 6: I'm not, there's no way.

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Speaker 4: I think it's part of like human nature. You lock

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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 6: Like a lot of women say they go through childbirth

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Speaker 6: and they like block out what the experience is like

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Speaker 6: because that might make them, you know, hesitant to do

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Speaker 6: it again per se. Yeah, but he's been as good

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Speaker 6: as can be. That's what's so funny. Like I think

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Speaker 6: he's been I would give him an a plus plus.

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Speaker 6: It's still just hard. It's just the reality of the

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Speaker 6: u of the situation. But he's been awesome. And last

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Speaker 6: night at Great Night, nan as I said, has been

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Speaker 6: incredibly helpful.

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Speaker 5: She's helping.

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Speaker 6: She's up anyway. I mean she wakes up at four

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Speaker 6: in the morning every day, which is that's just her, Like.

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Speaker 2: How did I not know this until now? Like, that's

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Speaker 2: my normal body is to get up at four or

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Speaker 2: five in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that early once

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Speaker 2: didn't she do that.

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Speaker 6: She did graveyard ship for a long time. But she

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Speaker 6: she's up early, her natural rhyth. I mean by the

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Speaker 6: time most people are like dusting the cobwebs off. I

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Speaker 6: think she's meditated. She swam and she's gone to church

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Speaker 6: and maybe running errand.

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Speaker 5: And you're like, but it's only nine o'clock, what do

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Speaker 5: you mean getting lot?

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Speaker 6: So she's so she has the last few days and

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Speaker 6: this is the greatest offer ever. So they say it

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Speaker 6: takes a village, but she is so he's kind of on,

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Speaker 6: like it depends some nights. Two nights ago not good

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Speaker 6: to the last three night's been really good. Two nights

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Speaker 6: ago not not good. But she'll do She'll come over

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Speaker 6: at like five five point fifteen and yeah at like

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Speaker 6: five thirty six am.

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Speaker 4: Feeding, which is amazing. Yeah, because I was.

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Speaker 6: Doing kind of like the eight eleven Taylo do the

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Speaker 6: two and then I'd hit the five again, and that's

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Speaker 6: like that's tough.

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Speaker 5: Because like it's like you sleep the room, no, because

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Speaker 5: you hear everything.

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Speaker 4: I've done pretty good at it. She'll be like he's crying.

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Speaker 6: Like that's all right, he's fine'll be all right, fine, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: this new is gonna rock him. And now we're letting

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Speaker 6: the snow do its thing. It's pretty wild. It's wild

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Speaker 6: to watch it happened.

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Speaker 4: But it works. It works. Yeah, So it goes like

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Speaker 4: it like rocks.

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Speaker 6: Them, like if this was if this was the baby

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Speaker 6: in there, this new they get like clipped in and

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Speaker 6: this new baseline just kind of goes like this, yeah,

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Speaker 6: back and forth. But then when they start fussing a

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Speaker 6: little bit, like somehow it knows like.

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Speaker 5: The things like the smartest I don't even Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Then it'll go like a little faster, and then it

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Speaker 6: goes like on two, it's like and they play all

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Speaker 6: this like ambient noise or whatever, and like it kind

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Speaker 6: of startles them and it sure enough.

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Speaker 5: It puts them back to bed. That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: But then there's like level three and four, which we

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Speaker 4: cap it where like we'll.

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Speaker 5: Get there yet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't understand anybody gets there, So dude, I

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Speaker 6: throw them out. It's gonna take off from the ground

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Speaker 6: like a helicopter.

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Speaker 2: I remember thinking, and and you'll you now this is

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Speaker 2: all coming back to you. But I remember thinking, like

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Speaker 2: I probably didn't sleep well for six years because we

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Speaker 2: Bootsy was probably about eighteen. I mean, they sleep through

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Speaker 2: Amy and I were pretty much tired five for like

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Speaker 2: but not like this, Like this is a different level.

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Speaker 6: Well, Nana doing this, Nana being the hero that she

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Speaker 6: is that helps, Yeah, and like she loves it.

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Speaker 4: It's a joy for her too.

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Speaker 6: I've been setting around all these great she's like so

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Speaker 6: thankful that she gets to do this, and.

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Speaker 5: We're like, we're thankful.

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Speaker 6: It's a win win when everybody's winning, and it's perfect

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Speaker 6: for her too.

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Speaker 4: Where's the g man, please?

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Speaker 5: You're saying too much, too much too much, Winny.

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Speaker 2: But it's perfect for her too, because if that works

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Speaker 2: with her clock, then she's she's loved right in there

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Speaker 2: and it's good.

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Speaker 5: That's nice.

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Speaker 6: Like right now, like the best thing they do right

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Speaker 6: now is like you know, Luca, what he looks at you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, You're like, all right, it's a lot of work

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Speaker 5: and sleeplessness for very little reward. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There, we're not They're coming, it's coming, it's coming. But

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Speaker 2: you're not getting a hug back. You're not getting a

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Speaker 4: Sometimes he's a little.

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Speaker 5: He's like yeah, yeah, they're like, oh yeah, like that's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because even though I mean, I know he

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Speaker 6: knows who we are, but like sometimes when you look

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Speaker 6: see so I've had him watch and we watch when

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Speaker 6: I do like the morning feedings with him. We've been

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Speaker 6: watching Gummy Bears, which I love that show. And then

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Speaker 6: right now we're almost done with a New Hope, Star Wars.

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Speaker 5: Oh there you go for Star Wars. Move got to admit,

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Speaker 5: when's the last time you saw it.

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Speaker 4: All the way through like a New Hope? Probably a

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Speaker 2: It takes a long time to get moving. We're in

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Speaker 6: It does, but like yes, like as we are Uncle Owen, and.

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Speaker 2: It's all like it comes out swinging, but it comes

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Speaker 2: out hot, hot, and then it settles down for probably

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Speaker 5: Again as soon as Solo gets as soon.

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Speaker 6: As all we get to the bar and we meet Cantina,

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Speaker 6: then we're yeah, then we're rolling again. What I don't

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Speaker 6: like is a version that's on Disney Plus is the

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Speaker 6: that Java scene outside the Millennium Falcon where he's like

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Speaker 4: He's not even that big.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't know why they and.

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Speaker 6: They added and they added when they're looking for the

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Speaker 5: That a couple of Stormtroopers are riding on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they needed to add the Java scene.

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Speaker 2: Like in watching Jedi, it's not like I needed the

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Speaker 2: point of reference of seeing Jaba.

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Speaker 4: You knew it from gro Do or whatever.

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Speaker 6: It was like, it's fine, Jaba you owed you knew

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Speaker 6: who he owed Jaba the money?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you knw who he was. I didn't need to

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Speaker 5: see him.

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Speaker 6: Well, and Jaba was there and he had Boba fat

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Speaker 6: was There were like eight different bounty hunters there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're like, they're gonna let him walk.

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Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, sure, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: So well, I don't know, but it's been it's that

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Speaker 6: that part of it has been very fun.

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Speaker 5: Well that's good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all of that stuff will be all of

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Speaker 2: that's He's a beautiful boy and very very exciting.

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Speaker 5: What's now?

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Speaker 4: You got him? Now he's fitted up. Look at this

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Speaker 4: from Uncle.

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Speaker 2: Bo Oh yeah yeah, I mean well I thought, there

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Speaker 2: you go, he's ready, he's got his flight suit.

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Speaker 5: Professional almost could.

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Speaker 2: We My wife, My wife actually saw it in the

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Speaker 2: the bookstore in Annapolis at the Naval Academy and and

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Speaker 5: She just held it up and she goes for Luca.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely, So I hope, I said,

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Speaker 2: I hope we timed. It'd be a perfect Halloween first

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Speaker 2: A lot of it was really nothing there was And

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Speaker 5: So yesterday, the West.

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Speaker 6: So you saw this what happens in Canada every year.

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Speaker 6: In my mind, I wonder if it's like that, like

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Speaker 5: Had arranged for a tour. So we did what you

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Speaker 2: Had had a lovely midshipman who gave us a tour.

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Speaker 5: I'd driven there and we did not have passports.

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Speaker 2: They don't let you park on academy. You have to

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Speaker 4: The course where it was bootsi.

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Speaker 2: So the course is incredible. It's probably the best resort

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Speaker 2: It was better than Royal Blue and the Bahamas, better

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Speaker 5: A true floating green. You have to take a boat over.

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Speaker 4: You boat, you boat over.

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Speaker 5: But all three of us.

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Speaker 2: They brought it like all the way in and they

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Speaker 2: It's a really cool hole.

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Speaker 4: And you got a certificate.

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Speaker 5: I did when I suck, but I did.

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Speaker 2: And I tell you though, like in my Caddy said this,

442
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 2: he said, you know a lot of people, especially because

443
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 2: everybody goes there wants to play, and a lot of

444
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 2: them are really bad. Like I'm bad, but there's people

445
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 2: who are terrible. Yeah, and he's like, most people just

446
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 2: stop at fourteen, like they just call it a day

447
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 2: at that point. They don't play the last few holes

448
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 2: because all they want to do is play fourteen and

449
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 2: then be done.

450
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 5: That's Island Green. It's fourteenth. Yeah interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

451
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: So and then Amian boots you get to come out

452
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 2: on the boat, take pictures and all of that. So

453
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 2: that was It was really cool and I highly recommend

454
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: that area. Yeah, and then we drove over to Montana

455
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 2: from there. I don't know if it's just I'm just

456
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 2: not used to it, but like when you are driving

457
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 2: over lookout Pass and you're crossing into Montana from Idaho

458
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 2: and you're literally driving over the rocky mountains and you

459
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 2: see a speed sign for speed saying eighty miles an hour,

460
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 2: and you realize what that means is that Montana's are

461
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: going eighty nine. Oh h at least it is minimum

462
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 2: eighty nine. It is a borderline insane choice. I mean,

463
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,959
Speaker 2: it just is like people are just they should not be.

464
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: It's an interstate. It's four lanes, right, but it's still

465
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: like it is and it is to go that.

466
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 5: Fast is like the standard is craziness.

467
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 2: Like I just the whole time I'm thinking about like,

468
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: so you drive like seventy seven by Brexville and Broadview

469
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: Heights and it's fifty five or whatever it is, and

470
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm driving over the Rockies and it's eighty How do

471
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 2: these two things equate?

472
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 5: And there's a ton of traffic. Yeah, it's not like

473
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 5: it's like there's no traffic there. It's summer.

474
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, the roads are packed.

475
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's it's it's full traffic situation. If there's

476
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: an accident, it's got to be backed up forever. How

477
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 2: the heck do you get emergency crews up to these

478
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: places on the sides of mountains.

479
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 5: It's nuts. So that was crazy.

480
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: We Uh, then we went to my dad's after that,

481
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: and we did a couple of nights there soft family,

482
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: which was cool. I this, I'll this was this closest

483
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: I've ever been to death in my life though happened

484
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: at my dad's place. So he's getting a little older

485
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: and he's got three really great horses that the boys

486
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: ride that don't buck, don't spook, don't do anything. And

487
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: he had me on a different one. So Peyden, despite

488
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: only riding like once a year, he rides his own horse.

489
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: Parker rides his own horse and then boots. He rides

490
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: a horse, but I trail him. So I have him

491
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: on a on a halter, okay. And I get on

492
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: this horse I've never been on before, and I can

493
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: tell right away she's not.

494
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 5: Not up for it.

495
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: It wasn't that now, and I've ridden a lot, so

496
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: I can I know when things are not going. I'm like,

497
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: and I got on her and she was kind of

498
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: bouncy a little bit, and then as I sat down

499
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: and started to walk, she started to buck, like legitimate

500
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: like rodeo buck.

501
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 5: Okay, so she.

502
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: Jumped twice and I held on and then she kind

503
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: of settled, but then she panicked and she started backing up,

504
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: and she backed up.

505
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 5: I'll pull it up. She backed up right.

506
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: I took a picture because it was just so insane.

507
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 5: So she backed up right up into.

508
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: That that fence, into that fence with that track tractor.

509
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: So she backed up into it and hit it. And

510
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: when she backed up into it and hit it, and

511
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm still riding at this point, she backed up into

512
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: it and hit it and started to fall back. Now

513
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: she falls all the way back. I'm dead because it's

514
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: it's a tractor, it's me and a horse, and I

515
00:22:54,840 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 2: don't win there. That's a game, set match. And so

516
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 2: she kind of gathers herself and just kind of falls

517
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: on her side against the tractor and the gate. Now,

518
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: because I have ridden a lot, I was quick enough

519
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: to get my leg out, so I got my leg

520
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: out and I was able to get my leg out

521
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: of the stirrup and hopped off as she was falling.

522
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: I was able to get it all out and I

523
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: just got away. At that point, she really struggled to

524
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: get back up. Inevitably, she was fine. She got back

525
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: to her feet and she was fine. But you just

526
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: kind of have to let him do it at that point.

527
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: But it was like that from game set match, and

528
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: so now was your dad there he was, but he

529
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: was saddling another hor he was getting his horse going

530
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: on the other side. Beamsy witnessed it firsthand and he was,

531
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: you know, shook, really shook. He's like, I'm done, get

532
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 2: me off this thing now, yeah, boots.

533
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: He didn't see all of it. NBC saw little of it.

534
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: Not all of it, though, but my wife saw all

535
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: of it, and I'm thinking, don't you forget still a cowboy.

536
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 3: Still got it, but still got it, still there, honey,

537
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: still got it all good.

538
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: It was so close. Yeah, I was terrifying. And then

539
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: we went and rode after that. When put that horse away,

540
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: I put that, I put the saddle it was on

541
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: that one, on another one, and then we all went

542
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: and we rode after. It was crazy in retrospect, crazy,

543
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: but no, it was great. My dad bought a buggy

544
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: for some reason, like a carriage, like if you were

545
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: to take like missus Lincoln to the Ford Theater carriage.

546
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you bought one.

547
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't know something to do. He came, He's like, hey,

548
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: you want to see this, like you want to see something?

549
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 5: Okay, So we go down.

550
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: He's what are we gonna do with this, I'm gonna

551
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: go for We're gonna go for a ride, all right,

552
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: So we come through the hassle.

553
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 5: Of putting all the things.

554
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 4: It's like what they would go into town and then.

555
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: Was this show nineteen twenty three behind.

556
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that or like eighteen eighty three, like a

557
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: like a true wooden carriage buggy.

558
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 5: You're in it and he's he's taken us around.

559
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, oh yeah, I got a one horse open,

560
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: one horse open sleigh too. Okay, God bless you. My

561
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: thinking is he's seven, almost seventy seven. I think he's

562
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: hedging for when he can't ride so that he can

563
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: still do these things. That's my guess is how it's working.

564
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 5: That'll be great. Though I'm getting buggied around everywhere. It's

565
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 5: a scene. We all did it. It was. It was

566
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 5: a scene to say the least. So no, it was

567
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 5: a great trip. All the flights are.

568
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: Incredible, and and we did it all in It's seven days,

569
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: so it's nuts.

570
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 5: Lots going on. Awesome.

571
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 6: Did the kids have a good time with everything that

572
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 6: they did? They have it was like their favorite.

573
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: Well so oldest was the golf. Peyton's big into golf.

574
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: R NBC's big into golf right now, and so yeah,

575
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: keep going great. He's like, I want to play more

576
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: and more, Like can we go back to Courtlaane.

577
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: I want to play. I want to play. And that

578
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 5: course is fun.

579
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: It's really it's gorgeous.

580
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: It's stunning, and it's really not just that whole like

581
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: the whole thing's like through the mountains, big carry.

582
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 5: It's just cool. It's just a really really cool course. Yeah.

583
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: So he loved that beams, he loved the pontoons, then boots,

584
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 2: he loved the riding. So he did a little bit

585
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: of everything, went back to the main Ponderosa and showed

586
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: him all of that.

587
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 5: And yeah, so it was good. This was supposed to

588
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 5: be a slow day in the National Football.

589
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 4: League not Yeah, I don't remember anything like this at all.

590
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: No, no, you about middle of the morning. The Pittsburgh

591
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: Steelers speaking of they kind of chose violence, like they

592
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: just they went as all in as can be. So

593
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: Mika Fitzpatrick goes to Miami, Jalen Ramsey comes back, and

594
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: then they acquired John new Smith as well for a

595
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: pick swap of a late pick going forward. Whatever you

596
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: think of the risk of all of this. They're better

597
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: than they were a year ago, and they won ten games.

598
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 4: They're definitely better.

599
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 6: But it's interesting you look at so they've added Ramsey,

600
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 6: they've added John Newsmith, they've lost Mica, they've lost Pickens.

601
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: They've had Metcalf, they added Aaron Rodgers. Yep.

602
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 6: They've had Dari Slay right they did yep. So they're old,

603
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 6: they are older, yep.

604
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 5: Which is interesting.

605
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 4: It feels what's the.

606
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: Difference between Mike and Ramsey age wise? It can't be much.

607
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: Mica and Ramsey year two.

608
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 5: Let's see. I think it's wild that Ramsey's thirty. I

609
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 5: think it's wild that. Do you think they're gonna have

610
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 5: him play safety?

611
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 6: They said slot corner, outside corner and some safety.

612
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. Minco's twenty eight, so so you just two years. Yeah,

613
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 5: and then our guy Thornhill's over there. Thorn Hill's over there,

614
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: and then they'll have Sleigh and Jewelry Porty Porter Junior

615
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: is the outside corners.

616
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 6: So Ramsey was picked in the sixteen draft. Minco's picked

617
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 6: in the eighteen draft.

618
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll turn thirty one in October. Let's see, Mika

619
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 5: turns twenty nine.

620
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 6: Mika turns twenty nine in November. So yeah, two years

621
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 6: over years. It's just interesting. Kind of feels to me,

622
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 6: and I said this in that group chat we are on,

623
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 6: but it feels to me kind of like what the

624
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 6: Eagles did that year they put together that dream team

625
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 6: and that.

626
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: With Michael Vick and all that. Yeah.

627
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I who knows if it'll work. It A lot

628
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: of it will be contingent on Rogers, I do think

629
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: with the John who Smith trade, though now I can

630
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: very clearly see what they're going to be offensively, which

631
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: is gonna which is also all the more weird that

632
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: that Rogers wasn't there for more of Mini camp because

633
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: or more of the off season, because they're clearly going

634
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: to run a lot of too tight yeah and friar movement.

635
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: You have a back and then have Metcalf and whoever else.

636
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, emerges Robert Woods or whoever on the outs or

637
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: whoever it could be missions out there.

638
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, so maybe that's but that's it.

639
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna run the two backs with Warren, and they're

640
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: gonna run Caleb Johnson, who's a stud I think he's

641
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: going to be really good for that them, and they're

642
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: gonna run play action off of that in wide zone

643
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: and and that's the plan. And then defensively, that's a

644
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: that's that's a that's a group.

645
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 5: It's a good looking group.

646
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: It's old, but yes it is.

647
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 6: But they're you know, like Sleigh Ramsey and Joey Porter

648
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 6: Junior is pretty good cornerback trio.

649
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: That's pretty good right there. Yeah, and they slid Patrick

650
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: Queen and they'll.

651
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: Get things and Kay Smith and km Hayward.

652
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's on on paper. Do you have them

653
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: wear in the AFC North on paper?

654
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: Still probably third?

655
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: See, I think they're better than Cincinnati on paper.

656
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: Maybe they are, but Joe Burrow is Joe Burrow.

657
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: He is, and they'll you know, they're gonna have to outscore. Yeah,

658
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: but I think they're right. They're not as dangerous since

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Speaker 2: they're still not first. No, but if if they're they

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Speaker 2: got closer.

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Speaker 4: They're or this is going to be a complete disaster.

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Speaker 5: It could be and complete disaster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but even the one thing about they don't there's

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Speaker 2: no precedent for complete disaster for them.

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Speaker 4: No, which is why this would be never done it.

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Speaker 4: But they've also never done this.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: Brooke prior talked about that.

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Speaker 2: I saw it on her Twitter, she was like, this

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Speaker 2: is a very Unsteelers off season for sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is to me, it's like it almost

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Speaker 6: feels like this is a last hurrah. You know, you

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Speaker 6: only have Rogers for one year. Like people in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 6: are already tired to Tomlin, which is nuts. The guy's

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Speaker 6: never had a losing season. Yeah, but they have not

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Speaker 6: won a playoff game since we looked it up like SI.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen, I think, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Think it's gonna blow up, and I think they're resetting

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Speaker 6: after the season.

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Speaker 2: Either way, they probably are win or lose, whether they sure,

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Speaker 2: that's just like what would be defining success for them

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Speaker 2: at this point with all in like, you have to

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Speaker 2: win a playoff game minimum, you're not not a super

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Speaker 2: Bowl team. I don't think with what aces, So you

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Speaker 2: have to think that they put I'm sure they think

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Speaker 2: that we did that thing. You know, a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago we said, you walk into refacility in the

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Speaker 2: in the division and everybody thinks they're a super Bowl team.

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Speaker 2: I me when we acquired Sean and and Paspert at

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Speaker 2: that point, like we would have everyone would have said, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we feel like we're a super Bowl team and that's

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Speaker 2: probably their thought is if you walk into the building,

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Speaker 2: you can say, hey we got Rogers, we had at Ramsey,

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Speaker 2: we got Metcalf. It's a it's a one shot at it.

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Speaker 2: And everybody over there has been complaining about Tomlin and

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Speaker 2: being in the middle by their definition in the middle

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Speaker 2: for so long.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: If this doesn't work, or even if it does, you

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Speaker 2: can pivot to a reset pretty easily.

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Speaker 6: Problem is if it has to go, if when you're

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Speaker 6: pivoting to a total reset, you need to kind of

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Speaker 6: crash spectacularly.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to do that unless it

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Speaker 4: just becomes it.

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Speaker 2: But it could be a it could be a multi

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Speaker 2: year rebuild at that point. Yeah, you know where it's

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Speaker 2: where it takes a couple of years to get kind

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Speaker 2: of back organized. But either way, our division, which was

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Speaker 2: already brutal, got tougher. There's more talent and division now

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Speaker 2: than there was yesterday.

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Speaker 4: No doubts.

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Speaker 2: quarterback room. Oh baby, we're diving right back in, brother,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 4: This is it.

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Speaker 5: My goodness, gracious, all right, we've seen.

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Speaker 4: We don't got, don't got. Billy Musgrave on the podium.

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Speaker 5: Mister Musgrave did not address.

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Speaker 3: The mess he was the only position coach normally physician reviews.

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Speaker 5: A little bit of a little bit of a was

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Speaker 5: a little thing. There's well, we're back.

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Speaker 3: We gotta work, you gotta earn the well like we've

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Speaker 3: got those for later in the week when we are

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Speaker 3: just kind of like, let's get through the last two days.

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Speaker 2: Smart, good joby to you give me? What do you

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Speaker 2: think the plan will be when we get into this thing?

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Speaker 2: My friend, you can use that one.

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Speaker 5: That's right behind it's right behind yours.

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Speaker 4: How about it? Well, I was over there. I just

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Speaker 4: had to keep your keep a seat.

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Speaker 5: Warm when I was safe safe.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I really think it's it's gonna be fascinating.

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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 6: You need to decide, Okay, who do you think are

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Speaker 6: realistic starters for a week one? And I think it's

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Speaker 6: kind of okay if one of the rookies is just

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Speaker 6: that good, it is okay. But I think it's also

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Speaker 6: okay to go into it with the mindset, at least initially,

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Speaker 6: that you're not putting a rookie into that murderer's row.

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Speaker 5: No. I mean we've we've talked about that throughout.

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Speaker 2: They force themselves into de Yeah, like Russ Wilson with

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Speaker 2: Seattle and you just you're just better than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: But it based on what we saw in mini camp,

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Speaker 2: it would take a lot to get there, and I

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Speaker 2: just don't know how they're going to get enough opportunity

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Speaker 2: to prove that with splitting the reps up.

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Speaker 6: So I think that what we're not privy to that

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Speaker 6: they might be privy to is we've had so much debate.

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Speaker 6: You know, do you keep four quarterbacks or is it

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Speaker 6: just three? I've said all along, I think it's going

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Speaker 6: to be three. So I think you have this is

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Speaker 6: I'm going to say it from my perspective, okay, because

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Speaker 6: I don't again don't know. I think that right now

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Speaker 6: you're getting Kenny Pickett ready to start Week one, and

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Speaker 6: you should give him the reps that indicate that early on,

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Speaker 6: if he falls flat on his face, you can press

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Speaker 6: the eject button and then you put Flacco right into

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Speaker 6: that role. But I think that's to me, that's where

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Speaker 6: it is. And then you know, you have Gabriel and

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Speaker 6: Sanders having kind of their own competition to see who

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Speaker 6: will be the backup going into the season, because I

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Speaker 6: don't think I think you're keeping one of Picket and Flacco.

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Speaker 6: And my guess is it would be Picket just because

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Speaker 6: you got to look at the big picture here.

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Speaker 4: You said, and I look, could the Browns go win

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Speaker 4: Zuper Bowls year? Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: Is it likely?

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Speaker 6: You know from Vegas standpoint, not least likely in our division? Right,

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Speaker 6: And that's you know, that's just kind of where we are.

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Speaker 6: So let's look at like the outcomes. So Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 6: starts for you, and Kenny Pickett is really good, good

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Speaker 6: enough that you would consider him your starter going into

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Speaker 6: the next season, or that another franchise in the National

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Speaker 6: Football League would consider him their starter going in the

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Speaker 6: next season. So that's outcome one with Kenny Pickett. That

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Speaker 6: means that either A, maybe you have your quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Now the question is can you afford him?

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Speaker 6: Or b that he goes somewhere and signs will call

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Speaker 6: it twenty five to thirty million dollar a year deal,

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Speaker 6: the Donald deal something like that, or even what Daniel

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Speaker 6: Jones end up signing for.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember that one. I don't remember what Jones

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Speaker 2: ended up signing for. I know Donald was three for

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Speaker 2: one hundred or thereabout.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so or even say twenty a year like justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, two for forty Yeah in that range.

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Speaker 5: Jones one year, fourteen millions.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so not Jones, so Fields low end, donald end.

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Speaker 6: That gets you unless you go out and sign a

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Speaker 6: twenty million dollars or thirty million dollars a year free.

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Speaker 4: Agent, which not like the zone hit the market. No,

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Speaker 4: that means Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 6: Is worth a third round pick to your organization because

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Speaker 6: he would be a compensatory third pick leaving.

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 6: Now he doesn't play well, You're going to see Gabriel

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Speaker 6: and Sanders at some point, and then that goes into

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Speaker 6: with Gabriel Sanders, can you be the guy so that

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Speaker 6: we do not have to use one or both of

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Speaker 6: our first round picks next year on a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Bo Do you think they view because the way you

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Speaker 2: set that up is you you kind of set it

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Speaker 2: up as if Picket and Flacco were the same.

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Speaker 5: In terms of like their standing.

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Although they are, okay, but is it possible that they

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Speaker 2: view Pickett as the similarly as the two rookies.

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Speaker 4: Possible, that's possible.

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Speaker 2: Where So in that scenario, you could start Flacco to

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Speaker 2: start the year like obviously you want the You're exactly right. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the intent would be Kenny, given the first opportunity to

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Speaker 2: go win the job, be the starter, competed story picks.

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Speaker 6: And Kenny Pickett's not starting week one, I think he's

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Speaker 6: out of the picture. Yeah, I think those are his

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Speaker 6: only outcomes, either starting week one or he's.

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Speaker 4: Not for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because at that point you'd rather have the young

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Speaker 2: kids go give him a shot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: My point was just that if him, if he's good,

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Speaker 6: that's what you get. If he's not good, he's gone

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Speaker 6: and you have Gabriel Sanders and they get the next shots.

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Speaker 6: If he can, he Pickett, let's say, falls on his

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Speaker 6: face and Flacco starts week one.

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Speaker 4: If Flaco's really.

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Speaker 6: Good again, the likelihood that we get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a very tough road, as we've outlined,

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Speaker 6: but that would be wonderful. But from twenty six and

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Speaker 6: beyond does nothing for you. Joe Flacco's in his forties. No,

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Speaker 6: he has not been a consistent, winning starting quarterback since

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Speaker 6: the year twenty seventeen, with the lone exception of the

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Speaker 6: season with US, right, So that does nothing for you.

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Speaker 6: Nobody's gonna pay him big bucks. You're not getting any competiti.

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Speaker 6: There's just no That's why I always that's why I

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Speaker 6: think Joe Flacco, if you're looking at the big picture,

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Speaker 6: is the kind of break glass in case of emercy. Now,

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Speaker 6: if the quarterback room had been what they thought it

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Speaker 6: was going to be when they signed him, which was Pickett,

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Speaker 6: Flacco and Dylan Gabriel, that's your three quarterbacks. Flat Goos

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Speaker 6: the mentor. He plays when he needs to play, and

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Speaker 6: he's in there, not that he's in there two mentor,

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Speaker 6: but he is somebody that is a great Just watch him,

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Speaker 6: Osmosis Jones, watch him and.

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Speaker 5: Learn from what you've got going on there.

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Speaker 6: Now that you've got Picket, Flacco, Gabriel and Sanders again,

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Speaker 6: I think you've challenged Shador. I think that nobody would

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Speaker 6: disagree with the statement that Shadoor Sanders is regarded as

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Speaker 6: the more talented of the two rookie quarterbacks. Yeah, nobody.

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Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel impressive. I know Coach loves him, I know

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Speaker 6: the Browns love him. I know that he is almost

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Speaker 6: kind of a veteran. I still look at him and say,

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Speaker 6: a great outcome for him is.

878
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: Being Colt McCoy.

879
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 6: Case Keenum playing in the league for a decade, being

880
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 6: a backup, starting when you need to, probably having a

881
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 6: couple seasons where you are a starter and do well

882
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 6: all of that. Now, maybe he's better than that. Maybe yeah,

883
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 6: maybe he's Russ Wilson. Maybe he is, and in that case, boom,

884
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 6: he could be your answer and then Shador. I think

885
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 6: that Flacco you don't need to give a lot of

886
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 6: reps to, and I think we kind of saw that

887
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 6: in Mini camp and the OTAs until you need to.

888
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 6: Unless you say, Kenny Pickett's not the guy. We're not

889
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 6: starting these rookies. Joe Flacker, you're the starter. Then you

890
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 6: get them all the reps he needs, and I think

891
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 6: he'll be a red guy. Came off his couch and

892
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 6: went four and one. Yes, he doesn't need a long ramp. No,

893
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 6: So I think you're gonna prepare great in mini camp

894
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 6: with next to no work. He just threw, He just

895
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 6: he just get up and throw the ball six and

896
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 6: he throws a beautiful ball.

897
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

898
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: So I think it's gonna be Picket being groomed to

899
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: be the starter.

900
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 6: I think Gabriel is going to get a lot of work,

901
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: and I'd like to see Shador's work go up in

902
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 6: high leverage situations and see if he can handle it.

903
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: Because of how talented the guy is.

904
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 5: I asked Coach Bright.

905
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: He was right at the end of mini camp. He

906
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: came on when you were with UH with Little Luca,

907
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: and I asked him. I asked him like, do you

908
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: have I wasn't expecting him to give me the answer,

909
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: but in your head, when do you have do you

910
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: know when this needs to start to be pared down?

911
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: And they do have an answer for that. But the

912
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: reality is is that you they they do have to

913
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: they have predisposed notion and they've had a lot of

914
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: time with these rookies. They've had a lot of time

915
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: with Kenny Pickett, They've had they know who Joe Flacco is.

916
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: So you can't. You cannot get all of these guys reps,

917
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: not the important reps.

918
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: There's no way.

919
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: And you have two joint practices to work through, the

920
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: ones with Caroline and the ones with Philly. Those reps

921
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: are the money reps. Now, one thing that's going to

922
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: be really cool for Browns fansa is these preseason games

923
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: are gonna be huge. Ye, these reps from these quarterbacks.

924
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: The two rookies are going to be huge. Ye One

925
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: thing that we saw in the in the lead up

926
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: and all the way through mandatory Mini camp is that

927
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: what Dylan was being asked to do was different than

928
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: what Shuduur is being asked to do because of background,

929
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: because of the way that Dylan has had to learn

930
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: all of these offenses, has played so much football, where

931
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: shud it's been a little bit different in terms of

932
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: the way that their their quarterback gestation period has gone.

933
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: But every rep is so critical and we saw that

934
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: at rookie Mini camp. We saw it at Mini camp,

935
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 2: just the way that they're flying these guys through because

936
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: they have to yep, they have to figure out what

937
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: they have in the three on quarterbacks and that's Pickett

938
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 2: Gabriel Sanders. So I do think that that part's gonna

939
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: be fascinating how quickly they pair that down.

940
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and how things evolve and change. That's what I'm

941
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 6: talking about. That is that's the change. That is what changes.

942
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 6: That's going to give you the clues. But I think

943
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 6: if you're taking it from an organizational standpoint and thinking

944
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 6: through all the possible outcomes, it makes all the sense

945
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 6: in the world to give Kenny Pickett that first shot,

946
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 6: and if he doesn't, then you'd want to hope, hey,

947
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 6: maybe Gabriel or Sanders is ready, and then if nobody is,

948
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 6: then you give it to Joe Flacco, who's absolutely ready

949
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 6: and a great guy and a great leader, all of

950
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 6: those things.

951
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: But because the fact that there's no.

952
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 6: Other than being and this is a big payoff, don't

953
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 6: get me wrong, and hopefully it would be the case,

954
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 6: it just is not. You know, his year with us

955
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 6: has been in a NOMA in his recent past, but

956
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 6: there's no long term payoff from Joe Flacco being successful.

957
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 6: There's short some of us being competitive this year. Yeah,

958
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 6: you know, I think people need to ask themselves like, okay,

959
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 6: like do we believe we can win a super Bowl?

960
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 5: Or do we win a division?

961
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: It's also I think at the other part of it.

962
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: But in regard to the two like if it go

963
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: to me, I think the first two weeks are most

964
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: critical for Kenny Pickett, as you just laid that out.

965
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: If Kenny Pickett is if, but if it doesn't go

966
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: well and it's not clicking, then you pivot to Flacco

967
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: because you could absolutely derail the career of a rookie

968
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: by putting them in those first six games unless they

969
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: are completely ready, totally ready, that is a brutal stretch

970
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: to open the season. So to me, what I'll be

971
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: watching the first two weeks of training camp is Kenny

972
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: Pickett yep, And how does he look going about his busines?

973
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 5: I know what Flacco is going to look like. I

974
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 5: know it same we know it.

975
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: So if Pickett's not elevating to that point and really

976
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: shining and very clearly the best between not between him

977
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: and Flacco, between him and the two young kids like

978
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: far and away, if that's not happening, if the gap

979
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: between him and the two young kids isn't big, then

980
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: at that point you pivot to Flacco and you go.

981
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 6: To the two kids at the backups and get them and

982
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 6: then they all are going to play, and then they're

983
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 6: gonna play this year.

984
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

985
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: So I think that's as we sit here on the

986
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: last day of June, that's that's probably kind of the

987
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: way that they're going to approach it.

988
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 4: Folks.

989
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: I would look at it as you have three swings

990
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: at a future quarterback. Yep, you got three swings at it.

991
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: And this is when you consider, you know, kind of

992
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: where we are at the quarterback decision. Because of the

993
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: Watson trade and all of that, you got three swings

994
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: at it. And my hunch is with this organization will

995
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: do in the coming years is keep swinging until you

996
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: got one. Yes, that's what you gotta do. You're gonna

997
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: draft part you have one, you draft one every year.

998
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 6: The part of this season to me, to me is

999
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 6: finding out, first, can Kenny Pickett be that guy? Second,

1000
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 6: can Dylan Gabriel or Shud or Sanders be that guy?

1001
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 6: But both of the I think you need answers to

1002
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 6: both of these questions. I mean I could envision a

1003
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 6: season depending on how things go where I mean best

1004
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 6: case scenario, obviously you picket rolls and then like I said,

1005
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 6: he's either worth a third round pick to you or

1006
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 6: you're saying that we're gonna figure this out. He's gonna

1007
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 6: can we I think we'd be able. We'd have to

1008
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 6: find a way a way.

1009
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 5: But like, yeah, like if he has a Donald year

1010
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 5: like Donald, you can say.

1011
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 6: Look, you could sign a big extension where the initial

1012
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 6: kip hits are not great, you know, and make it work.

1013
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: But you know, he's still young, he still in his

1014
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: rookie contract in the first round. Six, yeah, fifteen, and ten.

1015
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 6: As a starter, I could see a scenario this year

1016
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 6: where you get like five plus games from Picket, Gabriel,

1017
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 6: and Sanders.

1018
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: Ultimately, when it all like shakes out.

1019
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: Let's say we're playing Madden. That's probably what I would do.

1020
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

1021
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: I would split the season.

1022
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: I'd split the seventeen games three ways and see which

1023
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: one I played. Like if if humans weren't involved in

1024
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: emotions and physicality and all of that, well, if guys

1025
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: weren't hurt, and you could just say that would be

1026
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: the way, that's your litmus test fully healthy, these three tranches,

1027
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: how do these guys perform?

1028
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 5: Because really, and the goal is.

1029
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 6: If you go first, make it so that they don't

1030
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: sure you can't go to him to the next trench.

1031
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: And if you go second, make sure that they don't

1032
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: can't go to the third guy, and then that helps

1033
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: you get an answer. But that's to me, that's that's

1034
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 6: what it is. And then from the preseason standpoint, I

1035
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 6: definitely don't need to see all four of them.

1036
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 5: I don't need to see Joe do anything.

1037
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 6: No, if he's gonna go, he's gonna go, and he's

1038
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 6: gonna be ready and I have full confidence in him.

1039
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 6: I want to see some picket and then I want

1040
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 6: to see like a lot of Gabriel and Shadoor.

1041
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: Agreed, and that's why. And I think it's important for

1042
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: each one of those guys to start a preseason guard. Yes,

1043
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: I say both have to start, not third quarter, fourth quarter, no, no,

1044
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 2: start a game, go through the process of what it's

1045
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: like to be the guy. I'd love to see both

1046
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: of those guys start one of those games. And if

1047
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: you get the answer quicker positively or negatively unpick it,

1048
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: then that allows for that to be an easier play.

1049
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: For example, if if Kenny, if it doesn't go well

1050
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: for him right away, and it because you've God, you've

1051
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: had all these months, there's all the tape, like you

1052
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: got a pretty good idea what he is, what he's not.

1053
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: If it doesn't go well for and they love him,

1054
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: Kevin loves him. But if it doesn't go well, then

1055
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: those joint practices you can go Flacco in the joint

1056
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: practices to be ready for the first six games, and

1057
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: the preseason games can be all the rookies, yep, and

1058
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: you can sprinkle them in the joint practices.

1059
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 5: But like that's the that to me is is what

1060
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 5: this is about. One hundred percent one hundred percent.

1061
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: Can you find a solution to the biggest problem that's

1062
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 6: face this organization and plagued this organization since really the

1063
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 6: days of Bernie that's it.

1064
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been a long look for one and

1065
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: so that you're gonna get three more at bats at

1066
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: it this year, So and.

1067
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 4: You have the two picks next year.

1068
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: But like the ideal situation, would you be able to

1069
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 6: turn those into Caleb Downs and a left tackle, a

1070
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 6: wide receiver and Caleb Downs a wide receiver and a

1071
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 6: tackle an edge rusher to go opposite my you know,

1072
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 6: just to get two studs would be yeah, great.

1073
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, if one of these guys can be Russell Wilson

1074
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: is probably the best example recently. So I just keep

1075
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: coming back to it of a guy who was drafted

1076
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: where he was drafted and then turned into something. And

1077
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: it's what that allowed for is it allowed the Seattle

1078
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: Seahawks to win a Super Bowl and be Super Bowl

1079
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: contenders because they stumbled into a quarterback. Yes, it's the

1080
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: same thing the forty nine ers did with perty they

1081
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: stumbled into a quarterback and it allowed for them to

1082
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: make a run at a super Bowl. So that's that's

1083
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 2: what you hope you did here, and you have three

1084
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: chances to be able to do it.

1085
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 5: Yep, So all right give it you. What are your

1086
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 5: thoughts as I look at the clock.

1087
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: We can we can do it around the league if

1088
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: you want to squeeze it in. If we can move

1089
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: it to two.

1090
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 5: O'clock around the sports roll around the league.

1091
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's do that at too. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: of the day in the NFL if you're just joining

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Speaker 2: us the Pittsburgh Steelers with a couple of moves. Mika

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00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick goes to Miami in exchange for Jalen Ramsey, and

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00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: then they acquired Jonah Smith in exchange for a late

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00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: round PICKSWAP. I have to assume these things were all

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00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: tied together and it just had to be two separate transactions,

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00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: but it kind of feels.

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Speaker 5: Like just one.

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Speaker 6: What's wild to me about the John news Smith piece

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Speaker 6: of it is how why this all came to be?

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00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 6: Because and just so we'll give you a little background.

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Speaker 6: So John news Smith, let's get a little John Ye,

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00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 6: Mary is John Newsmith's been in the league for a

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00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 6: long time since twenty seventeen. He was with Arthur Smith

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00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 6: in Tennessee and had forty one catches for four hundred

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00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 6: and forty eight yards. Then was with in the year

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00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 6: before that thirty five for four to thirty nine. Then

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00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 6: he remember he was a big free agent signing by

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Speaker 6: New England. Nothing really happened there. Then he reunites with

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Speaker 6: Arthur Smith in Atlanta. Has fifty for five eighty two

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00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 6: last year in Miami career high eighty eight catches, eight

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00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty four yards, eight touchdowns. I'm surprised Miami

1123
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 6: didn't want.

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00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 5: Him, and.

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00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 6: Coming off his first Pro Bowl season twenty nine years old.

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00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 6: He's going to turn thirty shortly, another older guy to

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00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 6: that team. He's never had monster numbers with Arthur Smith,

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00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 6: and you're gonna have him and Friarmuth out there. It's

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00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 6: just a strange. It's strange. And now it's like the

1130
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 6: Dolphins need want a tight end. Now they're trying to

1131
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 6: trade for a tight end. You had a tight end, right, yeah?

1132
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 6: Who did pretty well in your offense? It would seem

1133
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about that,

1134
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 6: but it certainly would seem like he did pretty well

1135
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 6: in that offense. So it's just a very strange. I

1136
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 6: find it to be a very strange. Addition, people I

1137
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 6: think expecting him to go I'm talking from fantasy, same point.

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00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 6: I can go and keep doing what He's not going

1139
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 6: to do that in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: No, No, because it'll be a complete job share. I mean,

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00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: and they still have Washington, do don't they the big town,

1142
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: the big yeah out of Georgia.

1143
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 5: Who's just a massive human huh.

1144
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: So you know, I think that's probably from their perspective.

1145
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: I now understand the thinking of what they're trying to

1146
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: be offensively, and they're going to be what Arthur wants

1147
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: to be and it's going to be too tight and

1148
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: Roger's gonna have to pick that up pretty quickly. I'm

1149
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: sure they'll take a lot of the stuff that he

1150
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: ran in Green Bay and kind of work that stuff in,

1151
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: but he does, he is. It's going to be a

1152
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: new offense from ones he's run.

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00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 5: Now, there's some of the.

1154
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: Principles probably that are in Lafleur's offense Altho, also in

1155
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith there's probably a little bit of familiarity there.

1156
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a Yeah, it was a This was

1157
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: a wild I mean Monday going into the Holiday.

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00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 6: Lake point of the NFL season. Yeah, yeah, very very

1159
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 6: dead point of the NFL season.

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00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously a division that's already was already very

1161
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: very difficult got tougher. The Pittsburgh Seelers are more talented, older,

1162
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: but more talented now than they were a year ago.

1163
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: I try to anytime I'm on vacation, I really try

1164
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: to unplug. Did they get is the TJ.

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00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: Watt thing still hanging out there? Get a deal done?

1166
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: They have yet still hanging so that one's still out there?

1167
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: Because I thought I saw something yesterday that they that

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00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: they did get the deal done, but it's hard to

1169
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: tell any or what's really so.

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Speaker 3: This from Schefter within the past ten minutes, right from sources,

1171
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Speaker 3: multiple sources. In recent weeks, multiple teams have been discussing

1172
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Speaker 3: whether they can trade for Steelers stand out TJ. Watt,

1173
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: who skipped the team's most recent mini camp Pittsburgh, has

1174
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: not shown any willingness to deal. Watt so far, but

1175
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: he's unhappy with his contractual situation, and sources believe outside

1176
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: team interest is likely to increase given today's trade.

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Speaker 5: I just see no scenario why you would trade him

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 5: after doing all this. I agree, it just doesn't want

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00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 5: to see you in here a couple of weeks. I

1180
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 5: just don't.

1181
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 6: This is Schefter on McAfee. Everybody has just assumed that

1182
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 6: t J. Watt and the Steelers are going to figure

1183
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 6: things out. I don't think they're very close to a

1184
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Speaker 6: deal right now.

1185
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, though, too, Like he.

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00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 6: We heard, I heard, we wegus that there is a

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00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 6: belief very close there that he is going to be

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00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 6: trade it.

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Speaker 3: Brooke Pryor one minute ago, six months ago, I'd say

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00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: there was no way TJ. Watt wouldn't be a Steeler

1191
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty five season. I still think it's

1192
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: incredibly unlikely he goes anywhere. But this regime right now

1193
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: is a real wild card.

1194
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 6: So that's being said for a reason because this wasn't

1195
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 6: about This wasn't about TJ.

1196
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 5: Watt. No, it really wasn't. So like for.

1197
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 6: People all of a sudden to be commenting on TJ.

1198
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 6: Watt specifically, it makes me think.

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Speaker 2: That two things to remember and all of this stuff

1200
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 2: Reporters leaked things. Owners leak things. Yep, management leaks things.

1201
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: So if things are being said, they're being said for

1202
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: a reason. The other thing to remember, and this is

1203
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: just it's June thirtieth.

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00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 5: Man, you're going into the.

1205
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: Holiday week like there's not a whole lot going on.

1206
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 2: If you're in the content business at the worldwide leader,

1207
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: this is a nice it's a nice day. I mean,

1208
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: we're in the content business. This is nice one day.

1209
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: Close are you're just focusing on hot log You got

1210
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: hot talks coming up at the end of the week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1211
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: So I to me, I don't we do things or

1212
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: not a thing. I don't think it's a thing yet.

1213
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a thing yet. And I don't

1214
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: even know what the compensation would be for t J.

1215
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: Watt if they did. I don't even know where you'd

1216
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: what's the jumping off point for that? Is it multiple ones?

1217
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: It's got to be a is it a player like

1218
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: and then whoever signed, whoever would trade for him, but

1219
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: then have to give him the extension and make him

1220
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: the highest paid defensive end in football.

1221
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 5: Whatever Deally does is going to usurp Miles as.

1222
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: So me that feels like.

1223
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 6: Detroit wanting to pair him with Hutchinson and go all

1224
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 6: in if they can. Washington has been Yeah, you know,

1225
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 6: remember when they were trying to get are there.

1226
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 5: They do extensions for him, those two operations.

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00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 6: Extensions you can always if you sign a new deal,

1228
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 6: you can This year can be basically nothing, right.

1229
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, let's see. I don't know.

1230
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Speaker 3: I can't imagine him not being a squealer when this

1231
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: all gets going.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you. I think they gotta go, Okay, this

1233
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 5: is what we're doing. We're running it. Zee.

1234
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: I think you said it perfectly earlier in the show,

1235
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: like this seems like a make or break. If this

1236
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: falls flat on its face, I think the coach is gone. Finally, Yeah,

1237
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: they this, this whole thing gets blown up and no

1238
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: holds bar. Anybody's up for on the trade pline, I.

1239
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: Think, and I think a lot of people in Pittsburgh,

1240
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: a lot of Steelers fans probably would say, like, if

1241
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: this doesn't work, then let's blow it up. Yep, because

1242
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: they here's the other thing. They don't know what it's

1243
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: like to be at the bottom, nope, and try to

1244
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: dig out of it. It's hard, so it's really difficult.

1245
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 6: Lions and Niners have tons of room. Packers have plenty

1246
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 6: of room. Eagles have plenty of room.

1247
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 5: Vikings command the Eagles have plenty of room with that roster.

1248
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 5: That's what they do with their because they're smart with

1249
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 5: how they use their money.

1250
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: Just seems like the most talented overall roster in the NFL.

1251
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: They have a ton of room there.

1252
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 6: They're very with those extensions. But those I mean those

1253
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 6: teams commanders have twenty plus. I mean, those teams could

1254
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 6: get it done by I mean you're talking Cowboys have

1255
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 6: a lot. Lions and Niners have a lot.

1256
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 5: A lot. Yeah, that would be interesting to me.

1257
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 6: And then going forward into twenty six, Yeah, the commanders

1258
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 6: have a ton of room.

1259
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1260
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then what's the get back and to me

1261
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: just wouldn't make sense. It's all in is they're in

1262
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: to not have him, I would assume that he would

1263
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: be a part of it.

1264
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 6: Well, and it's it's to me, it's like if they

1265
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 6: are one foot in or one and a half feet in,

1266
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 6: one foot out, TJ. Watt probably allows them to get

1267
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 6: a first round pick that would give them two in

1268
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 6: next year's draft to go get the quarterback of their future.

1269
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 6: And by the way, it would be correct to assume

1270
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 6: that being able to go after a quarterback is more valuable.

1271
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 5: Than having TJ. Watt. It just is. It is.

1272
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 6: Guys, ever, wont a playoff game if they're not wrong.

1273
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: The one thing on that though, like and I've said

1274
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: in regard to us too, like if there is a

1275
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence viewed athlete at the top of this draft,

1276
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: two first round picks aren't going to get it done

1277
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: unless you get a bear situation where they just drafted.

1278
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 5: Them, right, that's it.

1279
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: So the only way that the only team that could

1280
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: happen is the Titans. If the Titans get a good

1281
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: season out of cam Ward and then and yet they're

1282
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 2: still bad, that's the one spot where if they pick one,

1283
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: your two ones would get it done for sure. But

1284
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: there's nowhere else where.

1285
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 6: It's not saying it's guaranteeing you like your choice of

1286
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 6: all of them, but with two ones you're going to get.

1287
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 6: And this people think right now, Again, we have no

1288
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 6: idea what it's going to look like next April. But

1289
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 6: right now people think they're like four or five really

1290
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 6: good quarterback candidates in the draft.

1291
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: Who the kid club.

1292
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Nick he's decent at Clemson, one great game against Texas

1293
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: or flipped him?

1294
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 5: Not Smyer, great Northeast Ohio kid, not Smyer. Is that right?

1295
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 5: Is that yep? Not Smyers at LSU.

1296
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 6: And then now you have all these people talking about

1297
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 6: Carson Beck. Again we just did that, I know, but

1298
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 6: now they're saying or surgery. This move for him is

1299
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 6: going to be like he's going to be like Joe Burrow.

1300
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: He was a Georgia. Stop it. No one's saying that

1301
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 4: he was a I legit read that doesn't mean they're right.

1302
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 5: Read everything. You can'tlieve everything.

1303
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: Read I don't believe college football. Z he's I mean,

1304
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Speaker 2: he's a little bit like the character in Draft Day

1305
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: Teammates can't stand him. Yeah, so there's a little bit

1306
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 2: of that with Beck.

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Speaker 5: No.

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's nobody that you just listed. Would you

1309
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: would it, would you say, even though I wouldn't view

1310
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: any of the people you just you just listed the

1311
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: way that we viewed Carson Beck last year coming out

1312
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Speaker 2: of Georgia.

1313
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 5: Nobody thought of cam Ward at this time.

1314
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 4: That's why. That's what I'm saying.

1315
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Speaker 6: You don't have any No, but you're positioning yourself to

1316
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1317
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the idea that if there is somebody great,

1318
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to do with two ones is

1319
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: going to get it done.

1320
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 5: It's not.

1321
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: It's not if someone's great. There is no scenario that

1322
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals would have traded out of Burrow at one.

1323
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 5: None.

1324
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 7: Oh.

1325
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 6: Then there's another guy that keep reading, Uh give me

1326
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 6: the school sellers.

1327
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: Oh jeez, the kid at South Carolina. It's pretty raw, yes,

1328
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 5: but seems free talented. Yeah.

1329
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 6: But yeah again, Yeah, because Arch is not till twenty seven.

1330
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: He could be next year, but he's not going to be.

1331
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: He's going to play two years at Texas. That's always

1332
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: been the plan. So he'll play two years at Texas.

1333
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: By the way, he's making six seven million dollars at Texas,

1334
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: why would he.

1335
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 5: Not to go to college. Yeah.

1336
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 6: So it's also wild to me that and this is

1337
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 6: not trying to be skeptical, it's just weird to me

1338
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 6: that he didn't beat out yours.

1339
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of uh somebody just wrote, oh, Spurrier

1340
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: talked about that last week about I did see that

1341
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: about he said, well, why didn't you?

1342
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 4: I didn't see that yours?

1343
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think it makes a little more

1344
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: sense when you think about what yours was and what

1345
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: his arm tellents was sure. I mean, they were in

1346
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: the playoff. They they lost. They lost to Washington yours'

1347
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: sophomore year late in the game that would have had

1348
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: him playing for a national title. So, and he was

1349
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: a five star, quote perfect prospect coming out of high school. Yeah,

1350
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: and then this year they went all the way to

1351
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 2: the national semifinal with youers like he's a really you know,

1352
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'd say if you're like, yeah, I

1353
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: also think there were some arrangements. The other thing that

1354
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: people don't realize about college football is you have boosters

1355
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: who have compensated people to do certain tasks, right, so

1356
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: that that's in play too there, and Quinn is an

1357
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. He's drafted much later than anybody thought. But

1358
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: I think that there was probably a little bit of

1359
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: an arrangement on that side of things. So but no,

1360
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that Arch is gonna be that guy.

1361
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: There's gonna be his two uncles. Bruce Feldon, by the way,

1362
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: who we met on, wrote a great piece about Arch's upbringing.

1363
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: Everybody assumes that like Peyton and Eli were all over it. No,

1364
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: they were in their careers raising their own family. Either

1365
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: one of them lived in New Orleans. This was Cooper

1366
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: and his wife at Peyton and Eli's older brother, and

1367
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: then obviously his grandparents are around because they live in

1368
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: New Orleans too. But like, it's not like he was

1369
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: being raised by Peyton Manning.

1370
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 3: Correct, right is uncle Peyton? Yeah, have to see him

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: on holidays, said, and I watched him on.

1372
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: Sunday five or six times a year, like you know

1373
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: exactly Manning passing academy stuff.

1374
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 5: And that was about it.

1375
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: And Cooper in that piece that he doesn't think that

1376
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: Eli ever saw him play, ever saw Arch play in

1377
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: high school. That's like in person because he was in

1378
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 2: the NFL. You know he couldn't, just not the way

1379
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: it works. A couple other things around the sports world,

1380
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: the WNBA announced date that will be expanding to Cleveland, Detroit,

1381
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: and Philly. The Cleveland team will begin playing in twenty

1382
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: twenty eight, so that's very cool. That's another cool thing

1383
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: for Downtown and that league is I will give him

1384
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: a lot of credit. They're being very smart with the

1385
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: pace of their expansion. So these three teams will get

1386
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: him to eighteen teams by twenty twenty eight. And I

1387
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: do think that the talent level will be good enough

1388
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: by that point to be able to support that, because

1389
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: you don't want to overexpand when you don't have the talent,

1390
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: so they can do that. EA Sports announcing today they're

1391
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: bringing back the NCAA college basketball game.

1392
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 5: Did you have it? I did? I did too, of course,

1393
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 5: but right it was awesome. Yeah.

1394
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 6: I think the best part of this game will be

1395
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 6: when you can have like throwback teams, if they can

1396
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 6: do that like college basketball now. And I know it's

1397
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 6: even in football. It's part of it. The portal and

1398
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 6: everybody moving around every year and all of that. But

1399
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 6: and this is totally an old man get off my lawn.

1400
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 6: But yeah, I posit that best teams, especially if they

1401
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 6: were acclimated to you know, more of the modern game,

1402
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 6: but from a Townsend butt like of like the late eighties,

1403
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 6: early nineties into the early two thousands, would smoke all

1404
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 6: these teams today because they were actually teams and more talented.

1405
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: No, what it'll be banking on is the same thing

1406
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: that the college football banks on, which is the atmosphere

1407
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: of it in the field.

1408
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: That's I don't think it has.

1409
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 5: It's not that. I mean, college football is the second most

1410
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 5: popular sport in.

1411
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 6: This if March Madness didn't exist, how people are watching

1412
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 6: regular college basketball games. No, and it's not like it was.

1413
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 6: No you know, they blew duke teams, the great Kentucky.

1414
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 5: The NBA blew it.

1415
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: The NBA could have followed the NFL's absolute model and

1416
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: done a three years removed from high school. They could

1417
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: have done it. And if they had done it, then

1418
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: they would be drafting. Can you imagine Cooper Flag and

1419
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: two more years of duke and then that Kneppel kid

1420
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: go fourth they had three in the time. Then yeah, yeah,

1421
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: so you to run those guys, that's a project.

1422
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 5: Those guys.

1423
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 4: You had a team that.

1424
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 6: Had Larry Johnson, Greg Anthony Stacey Ogman on it and

1425
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 6: Anderson Hunt and George Echols. But those big and they

1426
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 6: played two years in a row together. Oh you had

1427
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 6: in Duke when you had like Laightoner and Thomas Hill,

1428
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 6: Grand Hill and four years early like yes, Thomas was it?

1429
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 6: Thomas Davis, Thomas Thomas Hill, Antonio Davis.

1430
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: Antonio, Yeah, Antonio Davis, Yeah, Brian Davis, Brian Brian Davis.

1431
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 5: Antonio almost said lang Antonio lang Lang. Yeah, Yeah, I

1432
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 5: was gonna say lang about I guess can you imagine

1433
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 5: what those guys would have made an nil?

1434
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 4: Yes?

1435
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 5: Yes, So, like you know, you could have done all

1436
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 5: of that with that cal.

1437
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 6: With Bosman, you had Lamon Murray and Jason Kidd for

1438
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 6: multiple years to the other like it's just it's there's.

1439
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 5: None of it. No, I'm an it won't be as

1440
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 5: big as their college game is a massive hit.

1441
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 4: In that time.

1442
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 6: In those eras, I could have named probably the starting

1443
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 6: lives for the top twenty and obviously multiple teams I

1444
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 6: could have done like their top eight guys. And now

1445
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 6: I don't think I could name eight people in college

1446
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 6: basketball today.

1447
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: No, probably not because you know, they don't stick around

1448
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: and then they bounce even more so, so like they perpetually.

1449
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 6: The game to me will be cool if you can

1450
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 6: go back and play.

1451
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: It'll be cool if you can do like the creative

1452
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: player thing and be recruited and do all that. That's

1453
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: what the kids will want to do. And then if

1454
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: you can take that player and put it into NBA,

1455
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: which of course you can do, well, no, it's EA,

1456
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: so that won't be able to go into two K,

1457
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: it'll have to go.

1458
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 6: Into an EF. You can take yeah, into the next game.

1459
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that's what you would That's what you would

1460
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 5: want to do.

1461
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 6: Is to be and they do that in madd And

1462
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 6: can you be like a college recurt and then take

1463
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 6: your player and important.

1464
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: Because you can import the rosters or the draft classes

1465
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: in so you can't do that.

1466
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: One more thing here before we get to break. Netflix

1467
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 3: just posted this at eleven a m. Yeah, I saw

1468
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: this experience the historic rise of one of the greatest

1469
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: teams in all of sports. America's team, The Gambler and

1470
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: a Cowboys premiere is August nineteenth.

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01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: All right, I'll just say this. This will be sports washing,

1472
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: because that's what documentaries are now they're sports washing. But

1473
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson participated, you did. He's in the trailer for

1474
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, Yes, pretty he's prominently featured. So that tells

1475
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: me now that might have been part of a condition

1476
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 2: on him finally getting into the ring of water for

1477
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: Jerry too. But that tells me that there will at

1478
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: least be some transparency about what happened after ninety three

1479
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 2: because they win the two Super Bowls and then he

1480
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: fires him for Switzer, right, yeah, and that was as

1481
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 2: a kid, that was a shocking a thing. Ever, Yeah,

1482
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: like that was an all time shocking thing. Yes, what

1483
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 2: happened there? And they won two super Bowls? They fired him,

1484
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 2: then they hired Switzer. Niners win a ninety four, Switzer

1485
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: wins it ninety five, and then he's gone shortly thereafter.

1486
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: But that if you get the real truth on that,

1487
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: that is why is their regret because Jerry hasn't been

1488
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: close sense, No, not since correct, it's a long time, No,

1489
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: I can't. That's that one has a chance to be

1490
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Speaker 2: All right, we're twenty five years in quarter century team

1504
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 2: made up of players since two thousand. We are including

1505
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety nine team as well in this. So

1506
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,839
Speaker 2: the idea here is we will pick the offense this week.

1507
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: Gibbe's first question is, how do you want this offense

1508
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 2: to look?

1509
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 5: Best?

1510
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: Eleven one running back, two running back, three wide receivers.

1511
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: What should the breakdown be? Should be the best fifty three? Well,

1512
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: fifty three or start? I think we do starters.

1513
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 5: I think fifty three would get kind of one.

1514
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go starters. Yeah, I think we

1515
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: go starters. I think if you do fifty three, it's

1516
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna have.

1517
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 4: You have two quarterbacks, three running receivers.

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01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 5: I think I think just starters. My vote be just

1519
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 5: for starters.

1520
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 6: I think it'll be. We could I mean, we could

1521
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 6: do both. I could be that I could add on

1522
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 6: what the.

1523
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 5: Fifty three, you could add all the way to the

1524
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 5: fifty three. I don't think it'd be hard at all.

1525
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think you would find some positions could be

1526
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 3: a little tougher.

1527
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 5: Well.

1528
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: I think in the yeah, and the two thousands would

1529
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 2: be a real hole for me in terms of remembering

1530
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: who was.

1531
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 5: Good good news. I've compiled the list nine doc to

1532
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 5: get us through this week.

1533
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: But even the even the idea of having some sort

1534
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: of perspective on how good players were on bad teams

1535
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 2: in the two thousands would be really tough.

1536
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,520
Speaker 5: When you think about a fifty three.

1537
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 4: I think I really don't think it'd be I'm telling

1538
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 4: you right now, wouldn't be.

1539
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 5: You give it a shot. You can give it a shot. Yeah,

1540
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 5: I don't think it'd be tough at all.

1541
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: Give it a shot, all right, So if we do

1542
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: fifty three, then you still have to name starters though, Yeah, yeah.

1543
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course I've got that.

1544
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 5: I've got them depth charted out. Somebody's done their homework.

1545
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 5: Mister Emory's done his homework on this. Very good. All right,

1546
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: let's go.

1547
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 3: What happens when you got to feed a baby in

1548
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 3: the middle of the night and you're away five after

1549
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 3: the baby goes?

1550
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 5: All right?

1551
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: So on your fifty three? What is your breakdown? So

1552
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: I know what parameters I'm dealing with?

1553
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 5: Numeric we go through, but we we're gonna we're gonna

1554
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,440
Speaker 5: go because we're doing just quarterbacks today, just picking our quarterbacks.

1555
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 6: We're gonna go for twenty five to twenty five offense, defense. Okay,

1556
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 6: we'll go for twenty five to twenty five.

1557
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 5: All right.

1558
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: Here are the list of quarterbacks we will be choosing

1559
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: from to make the roster. The number one pick, the

1560
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 2: first ever pick of this franchise when it returned. Tim

1561
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: Couch is on this list. Kelly Holcombe is on this list.

1562
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of guys on this list. You've all

1563
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: seen the jersey, but these are the highlights. Derek Anderson,

1564
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Josh McCown, Baker, Mayfield, and Joe Flacco.

1565
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: That is your list of quarterbacks, among others. If there's

1566
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: other guys who pop out, I guess you could you

1567
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: could put them on there as well. But those are

1568
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: some of the principal ones that you're looking out for

1569
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: on that front. This is difficult because I mean, did

1570
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: Derek Anderson have the best quarterback season or was Baker's

1571
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 2: your first year with Stefanski the best?

1572
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 6: So Anderson's the only one of these guys that was

1573
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 6: a Pro bowler at any point in this.

1574
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: Bakes made a Pro Bowl, didn't he has an alternate

1575
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: then he did? I thought he did.

1576
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 6: Let's see it's he didn't have a star when I

1577
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 6: glanced quickly. No, He's made the Pro Bowl twice, both

1578
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 6: in the last two years in Tampa. Baker's best season

1579
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 6: with US was twenty sixty three percent completions, twenty six touchdowns,

1580
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 6: eight picks, thirty five sixty three.

1581
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 5: Yards ninety five point nine raiding.

1582
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 6: Anderson his best year was that two thousand and seven

1583
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 6: year where he threw for thirty eight hundred yards, twenty

1584
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 6: nine touchdowns, nineteen picks and was a Pro Bowler.

1585
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 4: There hasn't been great quarterback play.

1586
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 6: Let's be honest, But I mean I had if I

1587
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 6: was going to go with, you know, three in the

1588
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 6: quarterback room, my three would be I think Bak is

1589
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 6: your starter.

1590
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: Bakes Bake had the best sustained quarterback play the franchise

1591
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: has had since it returned.

1592
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 5: And has had had the best single season, maybe had

1593
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 5: the best single season.

1594
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I get, like I said, one the only

1595
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 6: Pro Bowl, but yeah, Bakes Bakes time here was sixty

1596
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 6: two percent completions, ninety two touchdowns, fifty six picks, eighty

1597
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 6: eight rating. And granted, things are very different, you know,

1598
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 6: from a rating standpoint, even from the early two thousands

1599
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 6: in terms of what like the average expected quarterback rating

1600
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 6: and completion percent and all that stuff.

1601
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 5: Is Anderson's thing is so strange because it's really just

1602
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 5: the one year.

1603
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 4: Yep, that's all it is.

1604
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 2: He's unbelieve he's great. He basically had one year of

1605
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 2: what Flacco had.

1606
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: From the number of players from that year in two

1607
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 3: thousand and seven that just had, they were on pace

1608
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 3: for Hall of Fame numbers. And then we're never heard.

1609
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: Like a guy just just the three big the two

1610
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: biggest pass catchers, and Anderson with Winslow and Edwards.

1611
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, and there was no reason.

1612
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 2: And you were, of the three of us, you were

1613
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 2: the closest to it, Gibbe, because you were here then, Z,

1614
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: but you weren't, like you weren't with the Browns at

1615
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 2: that point, right, there was no reason to believe that

1616
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: that couldn't run it back in eight. You started the

1617
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: next season against the Cowboys in the late window, the

1618
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: national game of the week. Yeah, that's how you started

1619
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: the next year.

1620
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 3: Romeo Crenell, great coach, Yeah, good guy.

1621
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 5: You had a great front office. Everybody was in lockstep.

1622
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 5: All of a sudden. You had this great mix of

1623
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 5: veterans and young guys. Yeah, and they all blossom.

1624
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 3: Your first round draft that year was Joe Thomas and

1625
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: Brady Quinn. And Brady Quinn does since he the field

1626
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 3: because Derrick Anderson has the mother of all seasons. Now,

1627
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: Charlie Fry started that right and had the arguably the

1628
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: worst season opener of a game since they came back. Well,

1629
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 3: the first game in ninety nine when everybody was like, oh, excited,

1630
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 3: football's back, Football's back, and Pittspuke came in here and

1631
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if we crushed midfield to the third quarter,

1632
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: and you were like, m all right, this is gonna

1633
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 3: take that game. In two thousand and seven, to kick

1634
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 3: off the season was just as bad. You trade Fry

1635
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 3: and then Anderson puts up fifty one on the Bengals.

1636
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 3: They win like fifty one forty eight, and they take

1637
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: off well.

1638
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: And the other thing about that was is Fry was

1639
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: the starter. It was a feel good story from the

1640
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: year before. But they drafted Quinn. Quinn fell out of

1641
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: the kind of came out of nowhere to be available.

1642
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: Brady became available. I was at his first game when

1643
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: he led a fourth quarter comeback in a preseason game

1644
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: and the place went nuts and got us a win.

1645
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 2: And I was working at the CBS affiliated Columbus at

1646
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: that time, and he came on with me after.

1647
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 5: I mean, it was crazy.

1648
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: He's aid Dublin kid, and you think, in my god,

1649
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: it's Brady Quinn's going to be the guy. So Quinn

1650
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: was there, and then Anderson wins the job, plays well,

1651
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: which leads to what happened in eight just one of

1652
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 2: the strangest one year ten win seasons ever. Honestly, when

1653
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: you think of all of the factors that led to that.

1654
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: So yes, bakes the no brainer. Anderson's on there. I

1655
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 2: think bakes the starter.

1656
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 6: Baked starter of Anderson second, and just that tells you

1657
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 6: where we're at.

1658
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: I have Joe Flacco as.

1659
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 5: The third quarterback. See, I totally disagree. That's Couch. I'm

1660
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 5: with you because it's.

1661
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: Couch to me had five games, he had thought and

1662
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: he was Also, he's also a Raven. I mean he's

1663
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 2: he is a He's a super Bowl champion with the Ravens.

1664
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 2: I don't think he can be on our twenty five

1665
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: year team for five starts.

1666
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 6: As much as I like five games were more impactful

1667
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 6: and more fun than any five game stretch in that period,

1668
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 6: that doesn't belong to either Bake or Derek Anderson.

1669
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: Also, the roster was exponentially better and it became different. Hey,

1670
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm with Gibbe on that.

1671
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 6: I think it's Tim Couch and his time with the

1672
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 6: Browns was twenty two and thirty seventy, threw more picks

1673
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 6: than and completed passes.

1674
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 5: I know think you can do that with the record.

1675
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: No fair, It's the worst thing that the NFL ever did.

1676
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: It's the worst thing in the NFL ever did do.

1677
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:03,799
Speaker 2: An expansion team and they learned.

1678
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 6: From fair to him again, but unfortunately it's you never

1679
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 6: had a quarterback rating in the eighties if you were

1680
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 6: to drop him in a completely different situation with his talent,

1681
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 6: and it's so unfair to him that that's where ended up,

1682
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 6: just like it's unfair to David Carr that he ended

1683
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 6: up where he did in Houston at the time. The

1684
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 6: way they did that instead of doing it like they

1685
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 6: did for Carolina and Jacksonville when it was like Mark Burdellen,

1686
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 6: like loaded teams.

1687
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 4: It's not fair. But like, that's why we're talking a

1688
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 4: third quarterback.

1689
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 5: And then it's just Baker and you're good.

1690
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 4: But it just seems weird.

1691
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: I think it's almost better for it almost be better

1692
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: if you don't want to go couch. It would almost

1693
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: be better if it's like McCown or something like it.

1694
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: Flacco is just a Raven. I mean, I love him,

1695
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 2: We love him.

1696
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 5: He was here. He was unbelievable for five games.

1697
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 6: But he's just he won a super he was the

1698
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 6: franchise quarterback of the Raven.

1699
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 4: It can't be if he doesn't McCown.

1700
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: He broke his leg the year they went to the playoffs,

1701
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 3: and Da came in. It took the whole gun count.

1702
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 3: It took him to the playoffs. But like, we might

1703
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 3: just only have two quarterbacks.

1704
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 5: That might be the solution. There might only be two

1705
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 5: quarterbacks on this Rostler, although we got to make sure we're.

1706
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 6: Get because I think we could have ten offensive linemen easy.

1707
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 5: And that's something will be easy later.

1708
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 4: But all right, so we'll go two quarterbacks.

1709
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 5: That's fine.

1710
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 6: Nobody's honestly. Flacco is recency. He's the first guy ever

1711
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 6: to throw three hundred yards in five straight games through

1712
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 6: thirteen touchdowns the game.

1713
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 4: It takes us to the playoffs. It was magical.

1714
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 6: If you think of over the time that time is

1715
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 6: is the three happiest times you had were Bacon twenty,

1716
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 6: Flacco here, and probably Da in two thousand and.

1717
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 5: Seven, well didn't count. Couch had a hulkom started the

1718
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 5: playoff game though against Pittsburgh, right, but Couch also had

1719
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 5: the Hail Mary win in New Orleans.

1720
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: Is that New Orleans? I mean that's before my time,

1721
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: So you you're the only one of us has a

1722
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 2: point of reference on Couches. I like the feeling around

1723
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: Couch at that disingenuous for me to sit here and.

1724
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 4: The Couch just deserved to be somewhere else. I know that.

1725
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: What I'm curious about, though, is on the Couch run,

1726
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: what was the feeling around the franchise and him at that.

1727
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 4: Poor Tim Couch got cheered for getting hurt.

1728
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: No, no, I know I understand that, but like in terms,

1729
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think he's I think him and

1730
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: David Dead David Carr are probably the two examples of just.

1731
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 5: Got bad spots.

1732
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: Like if Couch goes to Philly place for Andy Reid,

1733
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: it's a totally different situation. Right, he very well could

1734
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 2: have been. But what were the moments around Couch, Like Gibbe,

1735
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: what do you remember about those?

1736
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 3: He was he had all the talent in the world.

1737
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 3: Matt Fontana just text me. He goes, yeah, yeah, a

1738
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 3: high school line in front of him. It was like

1739
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 3: he never had a chance.

1740
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 5: He would have moments and six times he he.

1741
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 3: Would have moments where he would make plays. And you're

1742
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 3: just like like, if if you had star power, if

1743
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: you had a running back, if you had an offensive.

1744
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 4: Line, Yes, it's not his fault.

1745
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 5: Kevin Johnson and that was.

1746
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 6: By the way, until recently, Kevin Johnson had more catches.

1747
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 4: We went through that than anybody since two thousand.

1748
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you who was it Pluto who wrote

1749
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: the book about why they did that, why they did

1750
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 2: the Browns the way they did in terms of why

1751
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,879
Speaker 2: did they not give give the Browns the same advantage

1752
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 2: as Jacksonville.

1753
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 5: And Carolina hasten.

1754
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: Because like that jackson was the NFL just like we

1755
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: can't have these teams be this good.

1756
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 5: This correct it was.

1757
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: It was Jacksonville and Carolina went to the AFC and

1758
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 3: NFC championships.

1759
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 5: Like right away and they were like two years we know,

1760
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 5: like that's.

1761
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 3: The expansion draft was you had, you had your pick

1762
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 3: from the bottom ten of every team in the NFL.

1763
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: And what sucks about that is like what the NHL

1764
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 2: has done with their expansion with Vegas and Seattle, is

1765
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 2: I mean Vegas already won a Cup because they didn't

1766
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: allow you to protect enough players. You got like ready

1767
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 2: made guys and they there should have been Is it

1768
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: right for an expansion team to play for a Super

1769
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: Bowl not then the first or get to a championship

1770
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: game in the first two years? No, but it also

1771
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't be five years of digging out.

1772
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 6: So receiver was Kevin Johnson. The second leading receiver was

1773
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 6: Terry Kirby, third was Darren Chiverini. The leading rusher was

1774
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 6: Terry Kirby. The second leading rusher was Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

1775
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 5: I mean that's what we're throwing out.

1776
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 3: Everybody should everybody had a couch Jersey, Well, yeah, I

1777
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: mean everybody anything. They if he has any success at all,

1778
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 3: I'm I can say this with confidence, if he has

1779
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 3: any sustained success, he's right up.

1780
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 5: There with Bernie.

1781
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: Oh no doubt, oh no, because yeah, such a mess.

1782
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 5: But it just yeah, it's amazing.

1783
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 6: He never I mean he didn't play again after twenty

1784
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 6: six years of age.

1785
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, just so beaten up.

1786
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: Well that car was like that car didn't last much

1787
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: longer than that either, correct, just absolutely beaten.

1788
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 5: All right, so let's go too. Bacon, Bacon, Derek Anderson. Okay,

1789
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 5: we love you, Joe, but Bacon Derek Anderson.

1790
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 4: That's I love Joe, I love Josh.

1791
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of good dudes here. Yeah, all right,

1792
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1793
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 5: We're do running backs tomorrow. Give back. Sure, we just

1794
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 5: do a short segment. You're coming back.

1795
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 6: By the way, there's a name that's not on the

1796
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 6: running back list that I'm going to make a lobby

1797
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 6: for it to be on the football team.

1798
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 5: That's just a spoil. You just picked up a spot

1799
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 5: then for him. Yeah, there you go, hal four in there.

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 5: Anyway you want to play Polozolo next, Yeah, we can

1801
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 5: do that.

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,080
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Speaker 2: From the Check the Mic podcast, So'sted by Sam Monson

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01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: and Seed Paul Zelo. Here is the two fellas discussing

1812
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: the Browns offseason.

1813
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 8: Starting point, Miles Garrett demanded a trade. Instead of trading

1814
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 8: one of the best players in the NFL, they've extended

1815
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 8: him and got him locked into a new contract, albeit

1816
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 8: you know, one of the most expensive contracts in the NFL.

1817
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 8: But they've gone from their best player wanted at the

1818
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 8: door too he's happy again.

1819
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 5: That's good. Right.

1820
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 8: You can debate how they got there, but they took

1821
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 8: the They ended up with the quarterback I would have

1822
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 8: taken at number two, like I would have taken Shud

1823
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 8: or Sanders, just because I think they need a way

1824
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 8: out of that. They got him in the fifth round,

1825
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 8: so they got the same guy, and they're paying him

1826
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 8: like a fraction of the money they would be paying

1827
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 8: him if they got him at number two. And they

1828
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 8: got an extra roll of the dice, like a bonus

1829
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 8: lottery ticket with Dylan Gabriel in the third round as well.

1830
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 8: So you can argue that if they didn't think that

1831
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 8: those two guys really had a chance of being that

1832
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 8: answer that their process is way better than mine.

1833
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 5: Right, Why we.

1834
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 8: Don't think he's worth this spot. So we're gonna trust

1835
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 8: that we're that the draft is correct and let every

1836
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 8: let him slide till Day three and then we'll make

1837
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 8: a couple of moves and trade down and pick up

1838
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 8: the extra first round pick next year. And as much

1839
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 8: as you know Travis Hunter is special, he's unique, He's

1840
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 8: somebody that hasn't come along for decades, I still think

1841
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 8: the smart move is to pick up the first round

1842
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 8: pick for next year. If for no other reason, then

1843
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 8: you need the quarterback, not the guy that plays corner

1844
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 8: wide receiver.

1845
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 5: This is why I.

1846
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 7: Think the Jags Browns trade was a win win in

1847
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 7: the Jag situation, can one say star player make an

1848
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 7: impact on the team in Jacksonville? I think absolutely, Because

1849
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 7: you have a quarterback, you have a star receiver, You've

1850
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 7: got some talent on the defensive side. Do you add

1851
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 7: one Travis Hunter to the mix there that moves the needle?

1852
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 7: In Cleveland where the entire offensive line is unsigned for

1853
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 7: next year, you have questions at receiver, your secondary is

1854
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 7: unsigned for next year. You have one, one or two

1855
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 7: dependable defensive lineman. Is Travis Hunter moving the needle there?

1856
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 7: Or is it Travis Hunter plus Mason Travis Hunter versus

1857
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 7: Mason Graham plus the two extra picks plus next year's first.

1858
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 4: It was just a better move for the Browns.

1859
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 7: And to your point, like if we said before the draft, look,

1860
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 7: they're gonna forget however you want to care about our

1861
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 7: quarterback rankings, but they got our number two and four

1862
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 7: quarterbacks respectively, and Mason Graham in next year's first round

1863
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 7: pick and an extra two that's a huge win for

1864
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 7: me in the draft of the Browns.

1865
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1866
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 8: The other point that I would make that I don't

1867
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 8: think comes up enough is there is a pretty sizable

1868
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 8: chance that Mason Graham is a better player than Travis Hunter.

1869
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 8: Like I know, Travis Hunter is seen of a special

1870
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 8: and unique and what if he's able to play wide

1871
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 8: receiver in court, Like Mason Graham is one of the

1872
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 8: top five players in this draft, you know, if it

1873
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 8: wasn't for some weird measurements like shorter than ideal arms

1874
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 8: and he weighed in twenty pounds lower than he was

1875
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 8: supposed to. Like his tape says he's the top five player.

1876
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 5: In this draft.

1877
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 8: They may have gotten the better player in addition to

1878
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 8: the first round draft pick as well. Like there's a

1879
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 8: sizable chance that that is the case. Maybe not the

1880
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 8: most likely case, but a sizable chance that they got

1881
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 8: the better player in addition to a first round draft

1882
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 8: pick next year. I think this is pure hate for

1883
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 8: the Browns for no particularly good reason. I think they've

1884
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 8: done a good job overall, given some challenging circums.

1885
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 5: We agree, Welshmore to come.

1886
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by Bally Bet

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1891
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Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, kids, that's a busy Monday,

1892
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 2: busy Monday.

1893
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 5: Couple of big trades in the league.

1894
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great to have you back.

1895
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 5: Great to be back.

1896
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 6: By the way, gibbe, Yes, I'm gonna give you three guesses.

1897
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 6: I added one running back to this list. I'm gonna

1898
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 6: give you three guesses if you can name that running back,

1899
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna make the case for him to be

1900
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 6: on this team.

1901
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't have the back in front of me. I

1902
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 3: don't have the list in front of me.

1903
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 6: Your list is Nick Chubb yep, Jamal Lewis YEP, Coacaw,

1904
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 6: Isaiah Crowell, Peyton Hillis, Kareem Hunt, Deernest Johnson, Run, William Run,

1905
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 6: Reuben Drones, Duke Johnson, Trent Richardson, and Jerome Ford.

1906
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 5: I don't know who I'm missing. The person you're missing

1907
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 5: Terry Kirby.

1908
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 4: Lee Suggs had at.

1909
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 6: One point three straight one hundred yard games, including two

1910
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 6: thirty plus in a game.

1911
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 3: Oh, Harrison, Jerome Harrison against the Chiefs. Yeah, Jerome Harrison.

1912
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 5: Jerome Harrison.

1913
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 6: The final three games of that year led the NFL

1914
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 6: and rushing by like one hundred and fifty yards.

1915
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 5: That while, yeah, we'll do running backs tomorrow. I'm gonna

1916
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 5: try to get him on this team. There you go.

1917
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,559
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