WEBVTT - Charles Rogers Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>And I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and I

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<v Speaker 1>already had too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you dare to surbey me? Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't been in the backyard in a minute, which

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<v Speaker 2>feels nice, although it's April and it's about eighty degrees

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sweating already. What's going on? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>I've started watching Little House on the Prairie two episodes in.

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<v Speaker 2>I truly don't know why the Ingles family hasn't killed themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the things these people are going through. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>too much for me. But I'm going to continue see

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<v Speaker 2>if it ends up worth them living through the prairie.

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<v Speaker 2>about the Little House on the Prairie. Little House in Prairie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the I'm new to the program. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's about it. I think, you know, I'm obviously already

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of rambling here. The school bell is ringing,

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<v Speaker 2>the children are screaming, let's get into the podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>adore today's guest. It's Charles Rogers.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me, Charles welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no, good, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Ring.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to get to class. It's been nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've been itching to get back to school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I had lunch, I have to go. The bell tolling

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<v Speaker 2>over there. The whole the school feels like they're there

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<v Speaker 2>for about two days a week. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the modern elementary school schedule is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just they're all like artists and parents and

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<v Speaker 3>the children. They're like, we go to Monday Friday school.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly think that might be what's going on, because

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot track when the bell will ring. They'll be

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<v Speaker 2>gone for months, yeah, and not during the summer.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of can't handle seeing any of it, Like, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I do want kids one day, I firmly do believe

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<v Speaker 3>that in my heart of hearts. But then I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>like these east Side school I'll see like in the

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<v Speaker 3>cafe in the morning, like parents coming in with their children.

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<v Speaker 3>They all know each other, and I'm like, these people

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing nothing wrong, but like they need to burn

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<v Speaker 3>a house. There's nothing wrong with them. It's actually like

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<v Speaker 3>the best case in American in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like something about it. I'm like, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>handle these people something.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something very great about the fact that they even

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<v Speaker 2>have time to get to the coffee shop.

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<v Speaker 3>They should be stressed, yeah, And they shouldn't know each other, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>should be trading tips.

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<v Speaker 2>They should be singing like hot to go to their

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<v Speaker 2>children like all these Yeah. When I see parents pushing

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<v Speaker 2>their kids around and strollers around here, there's something about

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<v Speaker 2>it where I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>Strollers are satanic.

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<v Speaker 2>This feels bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Strollers are the bin her of stroller culture is it's

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<v Speaker 3>so patriarchal, the way in which like families think that

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<v Speaker 3>plastic vehicles have precedence over human lives.

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<v Speaker 2>People get very touchy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>They do because they have all their their stuff right

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<v Speaker 3>day and them, and that there's stuff they identify with

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<v Speaker 3>their stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, speaking of this, I was I was in

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<v Speaker 2>Silver like recently at this Korean place, like a Korean

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<v Speaker 2>fast foodish place, and I was ordering my food and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a parent that the kind of parent were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, and I thought eating with his son. I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought, this asshole, well cultural experience. What does he

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<v Speaker 2>think he is with his and his stupid roads? And

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll probably beat this.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was okay, that is who uk beep or not.

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<v Speaker 3>That is who you cast as that character, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked. I felt all sorts of emotions, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I thought, well, he's being a good parent. What

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<v Speaker 2>is my problem?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? And then it's also like, well, what's my career?

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>just jealousy that somebody is able to not only manage

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<v Speaker 2>their own life, but the life of a child, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>multiple children.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting, it's just having children. I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>a lot because I'm getting more real about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>planting seeds for tomorrow perhaps, And there is just something

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<v Speaker 3>inherently republican. Please don't play this at the McCarthy trials

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<v Speaker 3>that inevidently happened in two years, but like there is

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<v Speaker 3>something republican about a family, Like it's just like instantly,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate it, Like, but I want it.

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<v Speaker 2>But how many kids do you think you'd want?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like a decent number.

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<v Speaker 3>I want a boy and a girl. Because I'm half

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<v Speaker 3>man woman, I know how to speak to both.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have siblings?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Oh wow, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wondered about the only child experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's amazing. It's a universal.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean anytime I'm home for the holidays or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm experiencing and I love my parents, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing their unique behavior sometimes a lot, because I have

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<v Speaker 2>three siblings, which four children is kind of the baseline

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<v Speaker 2>for Mormon family. So we're like, my parents just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it. They're weak, They're ultimately weak. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always like, I'm so glad I have another I have

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<v Speaker 2>other people in my life who understand this exact behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>like to share this experience, not to brag, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I just feel like I could not possibly

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<v Speaker 2>begin to explain exactly what it is to another person, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's like I'm glad that I can just

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<v Speaker 2>sit here in silence with a sibling and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what we're we're witnessing this, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So you just sit in silence with your siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean your family is very quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>If I had siblings, I think we'd be talking.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you'd be very quiet. You'd hate each other.

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<v Speaker 3>It is one thing that's really nice about not having

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<v Speaker 3>siblings is that I like, as is my family. My

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<v Speaker 3>dad's gone to heaven. As you would say, let me

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<v Speaker 3>know if I am speaking your language or not to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want you to feel safe. But like my parents,

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<v Speaker 3>I think as characters I can frame as cool. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but then if you have one sibling, that's suddenly not cool.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole branding's off. Oh I'm just so glad that

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<v Speaker 3>I never had to be like and then my my

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<v Speaker 3>like weird realtor cut. Nothing against realtors, but like just

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<v Speaker 3>something that is just like doesn't uphold the image I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, really in control of the entire brand.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing against realtors.

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<v Speaker 2>We love our we love some of them. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>some of them are complete psychos.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. My uh, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>When I bought this house and blessed this woman, but

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<v Speaker 2>she was out of control and it was during COVID

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<v Speaker 2>refused to wear a mask. I just would put a

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<v Speaker 2>little piece of tool over her face, which is so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a scarf made of very thin you know. Cool,

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<v Speaker 3>just probably worse than not wearing anything at all. Probably

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<v Speaker 3>how COVID started. An infected piece of tool blows off

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<v Speaker 3>the wind lab graded tool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was someone who was like she had The

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<v Speaker 2>nineties were big for her. She probably Cameron Candace Cameron Burr.

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<v Speaker 2>We love our Candace Camerons.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them are psychos, some of them were normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for Candice and Kirk to become a real reality

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<v Speaker 2>take that could still be in the cards. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that probably is definitely in the cars.

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<v Speaker 3>She now not to jump around, but she now there's

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian network coming. Oh is she in charge that

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<v Speaker 3>we're all going to work for soon? Honestly, I know

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<v Speaker 3>she's in charge. But there's like four faces. Two of

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<v Speaker 3>them I don't I have no context for One of

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<v Speaker 3>them is her and then another one is Mario Lopez.

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<v Speaker 3>And I into it somewhere like in an airport or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, what is this called? Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>also like under the radar, Like it's not like Faith TV.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something like cherish or just some where it's more

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<v Speaker 3>family vision, right, Bloodshed.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's called The Great American Family?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it called that? No, that's a show. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think American's called something like it's like a network,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a streamer. I think it's a Christian streamer. Is it? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't mean to say no, I feel I know

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<v Speaker 3>it's triggering for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm is like pure. I'm very curious because then there's

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<v Speaker 2>also going to be the Chick fil A network, right

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<v Speaker 2>that I believe is Chick fil A is just like

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<v Speaker 2>this is no, just like Twitter culture. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter has kind of just like forced these things into reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Just that horrible culture had somehow opened a door where

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<v Speaker 2>now Chick fil A literally can have.

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<v Speaker 3>What you what you think manifests or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the television industry is obviously healthier than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's doing great. Or for Natalia Grace.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, don't get me started on Natalia Grace,

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<v Speaker 2>that documentary series, at least the one on Max I.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to stop halfway through the episode and I

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<v Speaker 2>was so curious.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it. I said, you know, I support

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<v Speaker 3>everyone involved, but just the idea of more in the

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<v Speaker 3>same way that like Tiger King or something where it's.

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<v Speaker 3>The weird thing about Natalia Grace is that like no

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<v Speaker 3>one can remember if she's good or bad or the

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<v Speaker 3>actual we've all seen it, and we're all like and

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<v Speaker 3>we all know if she's the devil, like we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>like we didn't remember the lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>There's really no clear answer. And like I've complained about

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<v Speaker 2>it on this podcast before and listeners have like tried

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<v Speaker 2>to point out what's happening, and they all have a

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<v Speaker 2>different story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no one's we've all met her, we've all taken

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<v Speaker 3>in general for TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Is probably the name of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Race.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I would love to just find out her

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<v Speaker 2>real age. And I don't think we're ever going to.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like me, you career wise, did you ever

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<v Speaker 2>see the orphan? I did when it came out right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so again, this is one of these things that's

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<v Speaker 2>deeply unclear. Was that inspired by Italia Grace?

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<v Speaker 3>Well so, I think if I remember correctly, the parents

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<v Speaker 3>did claim watch me be sued for this, but nothing

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<v Speaker 3>I can't handle. But they claimed situations that were kind

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<v Speaker 3>of based off of the movie. So I cus, that's wild.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the whole thing was that they were

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<v Speaker 3>like and then like when the investigation got into it,

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<v Speaker 3>there like scenes were like she was standing over them

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<v Speaker 3>with a knife and like, but they're like that happened

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<v Speaker 3>in that movie Orphan.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of the parents time to have fallen through an

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<v Speaker 2>ice ice in a pond. Wow, I had no And

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<v Speaker 2>now that I'm saying that, I'm thinking, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>good Son with Macaulay Culkin, Right, someone falls the seed?

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<v Speaker 3>There is a lot of love. I just recently watched

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it as a kid. I remember I remember

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<v Speaker 3>thinking it's great, it's fascinating, I should watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>An evil little girl and everyone seems to know she's

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<v Speaker 2>evil and kind of do nothing about it. Just killing people.

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<v Speaker 3>What can you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Natalia Grace, she's a good example. What can

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<v Speaker 2>you do? She's out there, probably has a new docu series.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably she's probably like giving people makeovers across America forever youthful,

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<v Speaker 3>She's getting everyone addresses like twelve year old.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm I guess I'll just that'll be a mystery

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<v Speaker 2>for me forever, because I've tried looking into it. I've

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<v Speaker 2>complained about it on my podcast hundreds of times. People

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<v Speaker 2>are tired of me talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh did I bring up something that? I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 3>listened to your podcast a lot, but I don't remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've probably mentioned it a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's you know, I mentioned something on this once

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<v Speaker 2>and I think people are people want me to stop talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's how it did not mean to do

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<v Speaker 3>that to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Italian grace, to be honest. Okay, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to the bottom of this.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's the you know, like the narrative version

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<v Speaker 2>of it, right right, which is is that the great

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<v Speaker 2>American family?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm seeking. That's good America.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so that's good American family. The streaming service is

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<v Speaker 4>great America.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to tell you know. Okay, that's crazy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like the Great American cookie, but a family.

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<v Speaker 2>And wait, and then is there is a trick fil

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<v Speaker 2>a network? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>No, promoting family friendly content?

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<v Speaker 3>Really? Yeah, that's not real, is it? That's just like

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<v Speaker 3>an app? And then there's press releases.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I wonder if it'll like only get to

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<v Speaker 2>that stage and then they've like won't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>come up with the original content. Right, it's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be cow Ai the cows. I've had it with

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<v Speaker 2>the cows. But this all goes back to I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe Mario Lopez is involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And my one and only Mario Lopez sighting I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever had was back to Universal Studios as a theme.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going into Universal and he was shooting I

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<v Speaker 3>guess Entertainment Tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Access Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>And then oh, he had a broken leg and it

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<v Speaker 3>was he was hosting like full pro Mario Lopez, and

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<v Speaker 3>his leg was broken and hoisted on like a little

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<v Speaker 3>barstool off camera. But he was just being like Access

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood coming at you like a full broken leg off camera.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like right in front of the Universal ball.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a it's a it was a very like

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<v Speaker 3>perfect la moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they had let the viewer in on

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that his leg was broken or they're like that.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to maintain. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Mario's perfect, always standing, He's always perfect. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>similar sighting at the Grove that he used to host

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<v Speaker 2>it at the grove. Oh right, And I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for legal reasons, I'm not sure that it

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<v Speaker 2>was Mario Lopez on a golf cart yelling at someone.

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<v Speaker 2>But I saw someone who looked like Mario Lopez on

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<v Speaker 2>a golf cart yelling at.

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<v Speaker 3>My golf cart at the grove.

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<v Speaker 2>At the grove, I guess he wanted to be guarded

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<v Speaker 2>around his shape.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, rather be golfing. Yeah, I was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly, you don't need to be like driven around that place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about the size of a block.

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<v Speaker 3>There is something about ninety celebrity though, where you you

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<v Speaker 3>do want to see them be golf cart right, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're royalty, they deserve they shouldn't have to do

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<v Speaker 2>any extra work. Yeah, they're that level of royalty when

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<v Speaker 2>they're hosting outside of the Nike store.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, I don't really need him to

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need him to be anything. So, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do think the happier you are, the more rageful, right, probably, Yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like a rage built in there. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I needed him to be kind of a net neutral

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<v Speaker 2>and now the fact that he's in the involved with

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<v Speaker 2>this network, it feels like we're pushing in a direction.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean everyone is. I guess there's nothing I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know anymore like I used to. You know, it

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<v Speaker 3>used to be so like can you believe who they

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<v Speaker 3>voted for? And now it's sort of like, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>get it. This is how it works. We're like we're

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<v Speaker 3>all slowly like eroding and just being like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I could be maga for sure, like if like if

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<v Speaker 3>the clothes were cuter or something that's.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing holding you back better or something. Wow, Mari

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<v Speaker 2>and Kansas, did you watch any of those shows growing up?

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<v Speaker 2>I watched Full House? Okay, ma too.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched Full House in this very dissociated way where

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't even sure if I liked it, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was it was. There was a xanax quality too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was just something that I would do once

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<v Speaker 2>a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as an opportunity to see girls when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were right, Yeah, see them like smoking and doing their.

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<v Speaker 3>Next Kimmy though surprise she didn't she if she had

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<v Speaker 3>left the planet, I wouldn't have held it against her

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<v Speaker 3>after that role like she she's strong. Like her holding

0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.600
<v Speaker 3>was that she had stinky, stinky ass feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her feet smoke, and the whole family was like,

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<v Speaker 2>go to have family.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you imagine coming over every day and just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to damn it, you're fucking filthy.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents won't let me bathe. There's something dark going

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<v Speaker 2>on in my house and you don't even welcome me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know your home every day again, tough. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a we've kind of fallen by the way the like

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<v Speaker 2>the abusing the neighbor child has fallen by the wayside.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they can come over and just be part

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<v Speaker 2>of the family now, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And sneaking around. I think I don't know if that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what youth culture is now. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if they have shows or not. That's true, if

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<v Speaker 3>they have shows at all, well, it is interesting that

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<v Speaker 3>whole like younger generations are not encouraged to tell stories

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<v Speaker 3>on any level. Right, So, I don't know where it's at.

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<v Speaker 2>You we're headed with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's just talking like everyone is just expressing a vibe

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute, like the in their immediate surroundings.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not like there's no forward movement or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that I went I went to this cool

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<v Speaker 2>little spot, yeah, and had a muffin or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, or it's a hot take, and then everyone's like

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<v Speaker 3>and then everyone comes tries to kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, I mean, eventually people will be doing

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<v Speaker 2>so little. How are you even going to develop a

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<v Speaker 2>hot take?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a weird time because everyone everything now is

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<v Speaker 3>a hot take. But like it's actually there's nothing else,

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<v Speaker 3>like even down to like Mike White like talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the composer and it's like he was like, everything is

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<v Speaker 3>just it sounds complex, and I do. I do worship

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<v Speaker 3>at the altar of Mike White. Of course, I almost

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<v Speaker 3>like don't want to be gray about how I portray,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do. It does sound it sounds complex. It

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like both It sounds like both parties were maybe

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<v Speaker 3>difficult with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but you know, and then I'm sure there were

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<v Speaker 2>a million takes on each of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally and the work and also like they've been validated

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<v Speaker 3>so much. Something happens. I'm not talking about Mike White,

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<v Speaker 3>but in general, something happens when people are validated too much.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I mean it's a it's they're given a free pass.

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<v Speaker 3>In the eyes change. Yeah, there's a possession I've had this.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a rubric of possession, devil possession that I've created

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<v Speaker 3>with friends and and it's very real in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean I see it, you know it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we've even to.

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<v Speaker 3>The best of us too. So the people the weirdest thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I won't name names, but like, there are people

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<v Speaker 3>who we rally around and that were always like I

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<v Speaker 3>love them, No, they finally got their thing, and then

0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.440
<v Speaker 3>the overexposure changes them and you're like, I can't even

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<v Speaker 3>of course.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we're doing an architectural Digest tour or something,

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<v Speaker 2>or we're doing the Vogue seventy three questions. Yeah, and

0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.440
<v Speaker 2>we are watching a soulless body move around their.

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<v Speaker 3>House and not every road can lead back to fashion. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the weirdest thing that's happened, especially within comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's kind of scary that, like the bottom line

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<v Speaker 3>is that our God is fashion and that we're all

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<v Speaker 3>working under like belief systems until we get to the God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's all your everything that you thought you were

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<v Speaker 2>working for is now well you get there, But that's

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<v Speaker 2>only to get to fashion. Yeah, to be to be Paris. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and character actors are dead. Oh, absolutely, forget it. They.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that I know so many incredible character actors

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.800
<v Speaker 3>that deserve to be famous. But but that's not the

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<v Speaker 3>way it works anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They might get a like a non named character on

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<v Speaker 2>a show, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very dark for like a guest star. And then

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 3>you've got like Chris Pratt or like Who's a Quiet

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Place John krasinskih Krasinsky, where that's also a very family

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<v Speaker 3>Republican yea.

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<v Speaker 2>Something daughter son, like whatever that is is. There's something

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<v Speaker 2>simmering with both of those men.

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think especially with Pratt.

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<v Speaker 3>To get hot too, it's like you go like there's

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<v Speaker 3>something very of the moment. To go from being like

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<v Speaker 3>a Putts or a dud to then being like a

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:48.440
<v Speaker 3>macho g I. Joe is actually really bad. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>there's something really dark happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because you start with these people who were hired

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.360
<v Speaker 2>for the office to look as averages.

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Bar to be relatable, to be like that's like the

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<v Speaker 3>silliest side of me, and then now it's like, actually

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.600
<v Speaker 3>that's why I want to be It's like I want

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.240
<v Speaker 3>their body, yeah, and something vulnerable. That's good.

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 2>We don't know what they think or feel at all

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 2>at any point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's an example.

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<v Speaker 3>Of all of that whatever that's, whatever that is with men,

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.359
<v Speaker 3>that's something that's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I feel like the office is kind of like

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 2>a Grimlin situation where they started as and now they've

0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 2>all become full like the Grimlin with the lipstick and

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:32.680
<v Speaker 2>ear rings, and we want to be that Wow Grimlin's okay. Well,

0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's something else we should talk about.

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Not that I want to, not that I want to

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<v Speaker 2>spoil my day, but it feels like the cracks are there,

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>we might as well just look directly at it. The

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:49.200
<v Speaker 2>podcast is called I Said No Gifts, And from from

0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.480
<v Speaker 2>what I understand, you have at least heard the title

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of the podcast. You've probably seen an email or two.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was honestly floored when you came just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cruising through my backyard holding what could not more

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 2>clearly be a gift.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I had to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Back against the wall. I appreciation for you in our

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 2>history are rich. Okay, Well, I mean it's here, you're here, yeah, okay,

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 2>it's in this, it's behind you. And I've put in

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<v Speaker 2>the work.

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<v Speaker 3>You even feel anything anymore? When you when you say this,

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<v Speaker 3>Yes you do. That's the shocking thing to me. It's

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like a play.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that I still feel something while recording this podcast. Yeah,

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 2>choices the biggest miracle of my life. I mean we've

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<v Speaker 2>done hundreds. Yeah, and most people at this point, I

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 2>feel like, would be completely numb. And I'm numb in

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>every other area of my life. Right, what's happening?

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 3>You know? I wasn't gonna push, but I really.

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll give you. Okay, there's actually one thing. It

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 3>is just genuinely like a real gift because I think

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 3>it's this is actually just something for you.

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>This is in a cold sack, a cold sack. Okay,

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a good crinkle. Yeah, pulling this out, I just

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 2>got some air.

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 3>You know. This is an incredible case. It looks nice

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 3>on the counter. Oh, you didn't have to buy it

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 3>for yourself.

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 2>This is the dream because yeah, I certainly would never

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<v Speaker 2>buy this to actually wash dishes.

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 3>Right, well, you know what, I have it, and now

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 3>you did too.

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just wouldn't. I don't feel like I'm

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 2>worthy of that purchase.

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:40.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I understand like, I'll just buy the dog. I mean,

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 3>you might not be, but I got it for you anyway.

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 3>It smells so good. It's nice, this is lovely, it's nice.

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 3>I started taking fragrance making classes. I have a dream

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 3>of being oh my god, i was at a party

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 3>a few weeks ago and I'm very drunken. I just

0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 3>have a memory of drunkenly turning around to like a

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 3>group of people I just and being like, it's official,

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm starting a fragrance line in twenty twenty six, Like

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:10.360
<v Speaker 3>everyone being like who. Like I woke up next morning

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 3>and be like, oh my god, but I'm learning a

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 3>lot about fragrance. And in a bottle of perfume, they

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 3>say that there is never there's rarely more than ten

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.479
<v Speaker 3>dollars worth of of like material.

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's amazing. And then the rest is alcohol and water.

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 3>And spit and spit tears.

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Just whatever they find on the factory floor. Yeah, well,

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 2>how long have you been taking the class.

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 3>I've been taking them for like a few months, since

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 3>since the summer, I've been taking them. Yeah, eventually. But

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 3>the more I learned, the more I'm like, whatever, I

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 3>don't know. That's how I feel about every hobby, you're

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 3>numb to it. I'm not. Yeah, more you're getting into something,

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 3>the more you have to do and that of course.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I took sailing lessons a couple of years ago, and

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 3>the boy scout, I know, I felt, I felt, I

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>felt like a man in moments, and uh, and the

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 3>more I got into it, like you're out there all

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 3>day with like people named like Margaret Vansha and you

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 3>don't know them because like you have to take them

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 3>with like and that's like she this is a I

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 3>changed her first name, not her last name, but she

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 3>did somebody. She was a cocktail waitress at a big

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 3>hotel in Santa Monica. So you're like there with like

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 3>random people and then it was fun at first, and

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 3>then you get into like like the boat, like the

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 3>battery or like the toilets, and then I was like,

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. Why would you.

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Ever gotten to know? Yeah, the battery, I didn't even

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>understand it was a battery.

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 3>And one there's a battery. There's a Duris hall.

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Is that for like an emergency motor or something you

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 2>have to have, like.

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 3>A PA system, you have to have whatever. Well, so

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to teach.

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I had no idea, and now I know too

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 2>much about sale. Yeah, I didn't want to know any

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>of them.

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 3>A one oh one of any hobby is great, and

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 3>then a one o two is like, oh this sucks. Right.

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>This was just to kill time and now it's taking

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 2>over my I'm closer to that. How did you find

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 2>out about this fragrance making class?

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I went to some sort of like fair thing and

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 3>there's a woman there who had made her own fragrances,

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, how did you learn this? And

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 3>she told me the school and I just started going, wow,

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 3>So what.

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Does it require? Like you go to class and are

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 2>you like learning the chemistry of all of these things

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>or is it just like mix different bottles together?

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 3>You can go either way, Like, if you're going to

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 3>do it for real, then you have to then you

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 3>should have been a chemist from day one. So but

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to just be like a brand bitch,

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 3>like you whatever you want, but it is it isn't.

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 3>What's weird about it is that it is an invisible

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 3>art and and like you can really, I can really.

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 3>It brought out a sense of self doubt that I

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 3>have as a runner in my life, where people are like,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I smell lime, and then I was like, I'm so stupid.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not good at anything, Like I don't smell lime.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 3>And then someone's like, I don't smell lime, and I'm like,

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 3>that's true, I don't smell It's like it is it

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 3>brings out something where you really gaslight yourself about the.

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Truth of Yeah, I have a really bad sense of smell,

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 2>so I feel like this would be my ultimate nightmare. Yeah,

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and then I also am a joiner, so I'd just

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>be like I would just agree with whoever's talking about

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 2>the smell, right, and then I would learn nothing and

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>create garbage.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 3>Right, You're useless.

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm a useless in any capacity, So like, what's the

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 2>end goal? Is to create your own fragrance within the class.

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 3>It's whatever you want. And it's very like there's no

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 3>accreditation and people just drop out. And I've never like

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 3>seen the same person twice really, so you've really kept

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 3>it's workshoppy because there's nothing, there's no real way to

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>do this. So I don't know I have I have

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 3>a goal. I just feel like we all need to

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 3>have like side jobs.

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that's probably a good idea. I don't

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>know if fragrance is the right, but now you've got

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the knowledge.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I know by the time my company has ve been going,

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 3>and it's like we're going to be in like the

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 3>next great depression. I'm going to be like, but this rubarb.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Each week? Do you create a different scent or what happens?

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I feel like we should just move on. I

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 3>want to know I can't go regularly.

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 5>The more.

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Exposed out to enu as my relationship to this holding is.

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you wear any fragrances?

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I do all that. Okay, okay, what fragrances are you

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 3>wearing right now? I'm wearing Joe Malone, Pnocchi and cedar wood.

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>It's really wozy, and.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Also something called B d K Greece Arnelle. It's like,

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 3>there's a place called Scent Bar in La there's two

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 3>of them out It's like a little mini moment of

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 3>fragrance and you just go, it's amazing, where is it.

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 3>There's one downtown and then there's one like really close

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 3>to the grove, but it's it's like you go in

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 3>and you're just like, I like like incensey smells, and

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 3>they're like, isn't this one wonderful.

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Is there any like scent that you hate that you

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't wear?

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I really struggle with like ood and musks is like

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 3>a fermented wood. It's very It's popular in like South Asia,

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 3>but it's like in the Middle East, but it's it's

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 3>really pungent and it's hard. Like that's the thing that

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>fragrances are. Also like wine culture, where like the more

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 3>sophisticated you are, the more open you are to like,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, not just nice thing, right, you want the

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 3>hardest And I'm just like a basic person, right right. Unfortunately, Well,

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've ever smelled an oode. Let's go,

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 3>thank you? Does this does have a generator? These mics?

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Get in the car?

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well that's for you.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's I'm so thrilled about this. And I just ran

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 2>out of soap, to be honest, So here we go.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>We go again, Okay, let's get back into the bag.

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Here.

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Does it matter what order these come out?

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 3>And not really? I think no, I think, oh, actually,

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>let's do this first. Right.

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>They're beautifully wrapped in kind of a confetti style wrapping paper.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, every day, every day should feel like a party.

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>You've always said.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 3>My darkest times.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wow, Matt like a face mask.

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Little yeah, little animal masks.

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>And they're cheetah colored or animals. These are full like

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>almost Halloween costume level because the other side has unicorn

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 2>and they're made from Alaska glacier water, which I refuse

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>to believe does it?

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Say yes, Wow, there's no chance. There's no chance there is.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can anybody can call a glacier water

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>if you want water. You know, it's traveling around the world.

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>It's getting sucked up into clouds and taken elsewhere. So

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>who knows. Also has fruit extract, but they don't tell

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you which fruit. Yeah, this feels like a allergen. Where

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 2>did you get these?

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Amazon? And has this wonderful little store online.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>This funky little sht to try it.

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 3>It's incredible.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever use this type of mask?

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>No? No, have you ever? I have. I've done it,

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 3>like you know, in girly moments with rights.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm always Uh. I feel like it is the

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing that if you're gonna get results, you

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>have to do it regularly.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't think these work, to be honest, there's no

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 3>way there's an eight year old girls party that which

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 3>came first. Yeah, so I like, I've tried them once

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 3>or twice and I never mind it. But it is

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 3>a thing where you're kind of stuck wearing it. Yeah,

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 3>I can't quite live your life. Maybe you'd want to

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 3>wear them on the show.

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, should wear one right now? Do you

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 2>want to wear one as well?

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I'll wear one with you. Okay, it'll it'll work better

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>on you because you don't have a tear.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, I was curious about that. Now I'm gonna

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>give you a choice. We have a cheetah, Panda Loma, mermaid.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 3>What do you want? What do you want?

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to see what the mermaid looks like. Well,

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.719
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't make any sense. That's almost nothing. And then

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>a unicorn. I think I'm gonna go with. I think

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go fold with a cheetah.

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 3>The cheatah is cue, what do you want? My god?

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 3>The mermaid is really dumb. I think I want to know.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>I want to be sexy if we're going out like

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>this club after the water, okay, god knows I am. Oh.

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, these are sopping wet. This is the wettest mask.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I ordered them extra wet. I called Jeff Bezos and

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, I said, hold on, I know you're

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 3>loading women into a spaceship, but I want these masks sweat.

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Look what they really are? Okay, oh my god? Oh

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and soapy.

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just think this is different.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, thank you for doing that. This is more air Wars. Now.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>The video of this is horror.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 3>My god.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm wearing a mask listener, and I can't possibly

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 2>imagine what I.

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Look like right now. It smells like a car wash.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel like bank robbery and heist movies. They're always

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like trying to find the next like what weird masks

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 2>will the person be wearing? And I feel like this

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 2>is not the worst idea, you know, like in the

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>town they wore the non masks.

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 3>My god, I don't even know what you're talking about.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Is what is that like a Mark Walbert movie.

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a probably it's a set in Boston, for sure,

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 2>he's got to be in it. But at some point

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>people wear kind of a I don't even know where

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>they got these frightening noun masks because what retailer is

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>selling this clearly frightening? Wow, this is I gotta stretch it.

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't wait to see what we look like

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 2>after this full mentality. Grace.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 3>You look like this has just become your truth.

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I've revealed my full self at last.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 3>I kind of see it. I get it.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, do you have any sort of skincare routine?

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 3>No? I do. The only consistent compliment I get in

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 3>my life is my skin.

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 2>You've got great skin, but you do nothing.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I do nothing, but I do. I do think. I

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>just drink a lot of water naturally. Sure. Sure, I'm

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 3>like a very compuls person, and so drinking water is

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>just it's just something to compulsively do.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 2>It's such an easy habit to have. Yeah, unless you

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>die of water poisoning or something such.

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 3>As possible well alask in glacier.

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that is kind of the secret of

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>skincare is do is don't do that much. Yeah, I

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>think people are doing like these just like getting in

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.919
<v Speaker 2>my mouth. People are doing these fifty step routines. Yes,

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 2>and what results are they really getting? Yeah? Meanwhile, you're

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>walking around new as a baby and you're doing nothing.

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 3>I do sleep eight hours. The one thing for all

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>of my insanity that I have going on upstairs.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, I do sleep. You sleep pretty well.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been very lucky with that.

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Are you a person as soon as you get in

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:48.479
<v Speaker 2>bed you're falling asleep?

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Or do you lie there for a while. I I

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 3>usually am suddenly like no, I'm ready to go to sleep.

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 3>IH like wow, I mean, I look at my phone. Unfortunately,

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 3>I need to get out of that habit. But I

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>actually have God, do you want an exclusive? I've debated.

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about this now. Okay, So I've debated posting

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 3>about this for a while because it just is so

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 3>humiliating and tragic. But I got one of those sleep

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.479
<v Speaker 3>apps that like tells you if you like like toss

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 3>and turn yes, yes, yes, and it records you. And

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 3>I said something, this is like two years old, and

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 3>I like almost posted it, and then I was like, no,

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm scared because I just seem like a terrible human.

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>But hold on, I cannot wait.

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I can probably find it. It's so like it tells

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>you if you like talk in your sleep, and right, okay,

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>it's taken. Okay, So I woke up to hearing myself

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 3>say this. There's two parts to it, so like, so

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna hear the first part and don't don't start

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 3>talking because you'll miss the second.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I cannot wait.

0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 5>You loser, do you remember what you're dreaming about?

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 3>It took me. I heard it like mid day, and

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like what I felt? All my heart broken

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 3>for myself and for whoever. I was like, I think

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I do know who I was talking about, because I

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 3>had a really long dream about a situation in a

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 3>group of people, and I do think it was connected

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 3>to that. It was me who was last night.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>But it's just like, it's like fuck you, It's like losers.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like the saddest. It made me so sad.

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a very like walking away from a group that's

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>been just been making fun of you.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which I which they probably were. I think I

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>was justified, just.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Your head hanging, just feeling absolutely terrible. I'm curious. I

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>have to imagine. I I talk in my sleep. I

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>did a lot as a kid, and I did a

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of sleepwalking. So I should get one of these.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 2>It just does it record all night?

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Or is it?

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this mask?

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 3>I know it's sort of if you want to take

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 3>it off, I think it probably thank you for you

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 3>got what you did and now we're so Dowy. It's disgusting.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna.

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 2>I did sleepwalk a lot as a kid, but as

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>as I I think I grew out of it, but

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm getting back into it.

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.439
<v Speaker 3>Which you just like walked throughout the house. What would

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 3>you do?

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I would walk through the house. I would At one

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>point there were.

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Two birds, one stone.

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wake up in your eye watcher watch. There was

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>one point, and this was a scary one. I walked

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>into my stupwalk into my parents room and sat down

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 2>with him and just started laughing and just was laughing

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't. Yeah, totally Italian grace. And then there

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>was one point when I went and you I walked

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 2>stupwalk into their back room. It just sat on it

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and peede.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Really nasty, nasty little pig. Nasty little Mormon pig. Get out.

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I get those kids to la. It is weird when

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.479
<v Speaker 2>your body does kind of like, at least practical things

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>with sleepwalking in to CBS, just get all of your

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.359
<v Speaker 2>errands done for the day. Do you know if you've

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>ever slept walk?

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I have. Yeah, I barely. I think

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>that that amount of speaking is probably the most think Yeah,

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I have a sleep paralysis a lot. You do, I do?

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Is it horrifying?

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 3>It is? It sucks now I know what it is. So,

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean I've had it since I was like sixteen, probably,

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 3>but it happens consistently on planes, okay, and trains and.

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Cars the worst places to have it happened the worst.

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 3>And I have been in like a middle seat before

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 3>on a plane. And there's a thing when have you

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 3>ever had it? No?

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 3>So like there's you're awake but asleep and you're locked in,

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 3>and there's like little things that are common where like

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 3>you try and like wiggle your finger and you're like

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 3>if I can wiggle my finger, I can wiggle my

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 3>whole arm and then I can like snap out and

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 3>you're just like moving like and it feels like you're

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 3>trying to like push a boulder uphill to get out

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 3>of this like lock in. And I've like fully like

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 3>had like like I've like snapped out of it like

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 3>in a middle seat before and been like it's like

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 3>the most embarrassing, Like.

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 2>This does remind me, Uh, where was I traveling? I

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 2>was on a plane in a couple of months ago

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 2>and I fell asleep and I woke up doing this.

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Wow, you're doing the wave, I guess.

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 2>So, I guess that's kind of similar. But it wasn't

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that you didn't start from paralysis. I just started from

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>some frightening dream or something.

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:44.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Then, yeah, it really is. And then you can't really

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 2>parents related, yes, but yeah you can't really explain to

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 2>your seat uh fellows.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 3>People, your seat, husband set, your wife.

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so then I just have to sit there like

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>everything's normal, which is such a bizarre.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the first time you had sleep paralysis?

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 3>I remember the first time that was really crazy, which

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 3>was in college. I was sleeping in and a regular

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 3>sleep patterns also can contribute it to us, so I'm

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:20.720
<v Speaker 3>sure I was just like college, sleeping until like eleven

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 3>or something stupid with my college boyfriend, and I suddenly

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 3>was like locked in, and I was like, okay, I'm

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 3>gonna roll myself off the bed, and you have like

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 3>stupid logic like that where you're like, I can do it,

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 3>I can roll myself off. And then finally I actually

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 3>did roll myself off, and when I hit the ground,

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I woke up and I turned to him and I

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 3>started telling him like, oh, my god, I just had sleeprouses.

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 3>And then he started turning into my roommate like before

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 3>my eyes my freshman year dorm, and I was like, oh,

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm still in it. And then I was back in

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 3>like the same lot. And so that was lucid dreaming.

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, yeah, wow what a like combo.

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 3>It was full Like Christopher Nolan likes like.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>No, wow, that's really fascinating. I would love to be

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 2>able to lucid dream. I can't do that. I've never

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 2>done it before. Yeah, but sleep paralysis, I mean even

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>if I wake up with my arm asleep, the panic

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I go through.

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I do that all the time. My arms are constantly.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear this. It's a recent thing for me.

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, what do you feel when you try

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 3>to get the when you wake up in your arms

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 3>asleep and you try to do you flail, I'll get

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>the blood back. And when you can't lift your torso

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 3>up with your arm, do you take your other arm

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 3>and raise your body up? This is no one's ever

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 3>discussed this.

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah. And every time my thinking is, oh, this

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>is the time that I've.

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>You snap it.

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know.

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Every time I'm like, and no.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>It's finally going to happen, and I had and I

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything wrong. This is just happening to me.

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 3>You know you're gay if you wake up in the

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 3>middle of the night and you're scared that you're gonna

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 3>snap your arms off by twisting and turning. Yeah, I

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 3>think it happens probably once a week to me. Now,

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 3>same what's happening with my body that this is a

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 3>new We should be able to take our arms off

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 3>before bad.

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 2>They're not necessary for sleeping.

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 3>They're not necessary. Similarly, I think that we should all

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 3>take our teeth out early because it's a net loss game.

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 3>You started zero and you only go down.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you really do? What what age do you think

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:19.399
<v Speaker 2>we should get our teeth out?

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I think what what's when you say your first word coquence?

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 3>A real dose for how life works?

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I do feel like we're at a point

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 2>technologically and within the medical field and the dental field

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 2>that that should just be like what everyone just we.

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Need to come full circle back to George Washington.

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just get them out, get things that you can,

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>like put in.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 3>The dishwasher, or you put your teeth in the dishwasher.

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 2>And wash them with so something that every night you

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 2>just take out and put in a you know, with

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the freezy little tablet, and then put them in the

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.439
<v Speaker 2>next morning. I agree, you know, I don't understand what's

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 2>because they're just a health hazard.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 3>We just eat softer food. You don't mean if we

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 3>just had a soft food industry then everything would be it's.

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Just kind of a soup based co Yeah. No, I'm

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 2>on board with having all of our teeth removed. I

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>don't see the point in keeping them.

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 3>No, and they're not actually sexy, No, they're very all

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 3>We just we've created ideologies around teeth to begin and

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 3>that Amy Lou woman, it's certainly breaking down barriers.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>She is breaking. I love the stories about her because

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like she is a stunningly beautiful person.

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.320
<v Speaker 3>She's so gorgeous, and I love her. I actually do

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 3>love her teeth, and it's important. I think it's important

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 3>to like glitches and the matrix are important.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, things like that's just that person's teeth. Yeah, but

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 2>every news article is like this mutant has crawled out

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 2>of the sewer to break.

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Barrier, to fight all odds. It's like, we'll give her

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 3>one chance and then we'll let her sail away. Although

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I did see some like she was in a production

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 3>of Cabaret in the UK as like the mc no,

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 3>it's tellibles and she looks very like raggedy and in

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 3>a really good way, I want, I think, and.

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>You feel like the teeth contributed to this for sure? Wow,

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>So she can really go in any direction, any direction

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.280
<v Speaker 2>where the teeth can be like that teeth Forward productions.

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Uh no, I bond girl? Oh interesting, isn't there like

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 3>a dental bond that there's like a pun in there? Oh?

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 2>There is absolutely What is a dental bond? Is that

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 2>for your dent?

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 3>There's like a tube of toothpaste in the section with

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 3>bond in it.

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. I think it's called it's not dental bond,

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 2>is it.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 3>It's like they're gonna be like Great American Family and

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 3>then we have to just like believe you again.

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 2>We find out that computer is just broken.

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.280
<v Speaker 3>It's owned by Great American Family.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I see dent gold gold bond is what

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 4>you're thinking about that?

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not a yeah, wait what is gold bond?

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Who are you talking to you? Over there?

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 2>You know from everyone else, there's a man there's a

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 2>shadow standing CEO of gold.

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 3>Bonds Ghost body powder. There is people.

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you do that the powder?

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I do feel no offense. I do feel a paler

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 3>person was more likely to do this. That is I'm deep.

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying you, but what like is it?

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Did they use it in?

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh? Everywhere? There's nastywhere these little fuckers.

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.479
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's for a very damp person. I guess,

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>so you've got to really dry out the use these masks.

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 3>You got to go.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never done the powder.

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Neither vibe, but I do feel like I don't know

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 3>your practices, but I do feel like grinder. I don't know,

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Like you could imagine walking into someone's house and then

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 3>discovering that they're like a gold bond, like you never know,

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 3>it's all over the couch, like I can't turn back now,

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, I didn't agree to this.

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a It feels like something that is from

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 2>another time. But they're like people probably pockets of the country.

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 2>They're so gold bonds. And then there's gold bog families

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 2>and people who have adopted it late in life as

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 2>some sort of fetish and they love just a powdery experience,

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 2>which I'm not on board with.

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 3>The powder culture is disgusting and it's crazy and it's

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 3>not necessary.

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Powder culture really is. It's kind of like upper room

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 2>of the saloon, just kind of like, yeah, you're masking

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 2>so many things that you should have just washed off.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Or yes, that's true and that I understand. But I

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.400
<v Speaker 3>do think there's something about it that's like, well, I mean,

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 3>we're all babies, and it's just like, no, we're not.

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's something real weird about it, like no

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 2>one said we're babies. Yeah, I don't.

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm strictly a deode rent stick. Yeah you've done a

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 3>dealdant spray. I think I've like shared someone's okay, Yeah,

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that when you can share.

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, that's a good point.

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't. I only really sweat and smell

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 3>if I'm working out, and I'm not like a sweaty smell, right,

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 3>and so so you're not a daily deodorant person. I

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 3>try not to be. Wow, I'm trying. I am, like,

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 3>but I really love to feel clean and I love

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 3>like little rituals and so I do like to do it.

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 3>But I'm actually thinking i'm going to stop. And so

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm weaning right now for health reasons. Yeah, I

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 3>just I mean, like think about it, Like, why are

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 3>we caking something into our crevice? Right? I can't be right.

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just like literally asking we're asking it to be absorbed.

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not going anywhere. Yeah, one place to the neighbor,

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 3>the pits of the neighbors do the heart.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm so scared now. But I would

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 2>rather have people happy with me than be medically safe.

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Because have you ever read Codependancy?

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 3>No more? I need to. It's really good.

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be I'm afraid it's gonna be

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 2>two eye opening for me.

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 3>So and and but okay, in that case, what is

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 3>the point of.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Life to feel myself from anything?

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow? Sort of growth through you. You're one of the

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 3>few people that will admit it, who actually says it.

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's time for me to read it. But what

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 2>if it shifts everything?

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean it could, but I think yeah it could.

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I it made me see a lot of stuff. But

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 3>it's it's I like her her vibe. She's like it's

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 3>old school. It's like the first seminal codependency books and

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 3>and so it's a lot of it's about alcoholism, because

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 3>like that's all they thought it was ely twenties and

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 3>then but like she gives example, she's like she's got

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 3>like a voice sort of like I like this. Yeah,

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 3>you actually kind of like her, Like she's kind of

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 3>funny too, And she's like, say, your son's a shopaholic

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 3>and he says, Mom, I'm going to shop till I

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 3>drop and you go back upstairs and you and the

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:59.399
<v Speaker 3>mother like it's just like the most crazy specific Yeah,

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 3>it's these situations that you're like.

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 2>What, wait, what's her name?

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Do you know?

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't I can't put it on the spot with author. Yeah,

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 2>well okay, I'm gonna get into that.

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Is that Melody Beady?

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Incredible name.

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 3>She's great, she's very likable. But it's all it's like,

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 3>say your husband throws you down the stairs, steals your

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 3>corvette and doesn't show back up for two months. Are

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 3>you going to let him back in? This is literally

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 3>exactly what she sounds like. I'm getting it, really, I'm

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 3>getting really good.

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, at least to get the keys to my corvette.

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, Yeah, okay we have There are obviously other

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 2>things in here, I've got to that's say Okay, now

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>this is more of a tube shaped object.

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Don't get your host out. It's not a tube.

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's a T shirt, a T shirt.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 3>This is I am afraid of what I found it

0:49:55.120 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 3>on Amazon. I used that's what I wanted to no,

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 3>because I am afraid of women. It's like that's very gay, yes,

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 3>but then it's also for what, like.

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Like what is who's wearing it? Like a like a

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>bro in Vegas?

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Like who is it for?

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know because obviously contextually it's going to mean

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of different things on the person and what

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 2>environment they're in. If I were to be wearing this,

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 2>what am I? What am I trying to say?

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, let's find o.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna wear this on an episode of What Would

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 2>You Do? And it'll just be a man wearing this shirt?

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 2>What would you do with this?

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is a fascinating thing.

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I actually Amazon. I searched your name in Amazon.

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not kidding, I'm not getting And then so I

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 3>found a shirt that said god it said I am

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Bridger doing Bridger things literally like if you Amazon your name,

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 3>it's like the boy, it's like I was like, do

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I get that? And then I was like I hate it,

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Like I hate I am bridger to it. I just

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't like the sound saying it coming. Yes, And so

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 3>then when I clicked on that, it was like you

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 3>might also like and it led to the shirt and

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, this is like a natural path. Wow,

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 3>this is this must be a whole industry.

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I there's some sort of bot or something that's just

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 2>literally throwing words together that could be tied into Amazon

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and the search results.

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's an interesting expression of misogyny because it's giving

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 3>women power over the wearer. Yes, So I don't fully

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 3>get it, Like I'm a little bit like who is

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 3>who is what straight man out there who like wants

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 3>to like hand it to women on a T shirt

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 3>is also being like because I'm lesser than you, I

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 3>don't understand it. Personality type of you could pause. It's

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 3>a dangerous person, a very dangerous person. You're right, no

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 3>matter who wears it, Like.

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how you would operate in the

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>world walking around in this. No one is going to

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 2>treat you in any way you want them to.

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no one's going to give you the power in

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 3>any exchange. It's anyway you can throw that away as

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 3>eighteen dollars. I could have used a fascinating towards therapy.

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see one person I would love

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 2>to meet an interview if you, if you already own

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 2>this product, reach out to the podcast and we'll interview you.

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Try to get to the bottom of your behavior in

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 2>your lifestyle, because yeah, I just don't know. At least

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:31.280
<v Speaker 2>you have any guesses.

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I have two guesses. I have two guesses.

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 4>One is like a group of like a toxic and

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 4>male friend group, Like they're going out to Vegas and

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 4>they put that on like the weakest.

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Link you can't get.

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 4>A girl or a lesbian, a little he's afraid of

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 4>would wear that to the club and be like, please

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:53.840
<v Speaker 4>just hit on me.

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think lesbian. I think now I feel ashamed

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 3>for not having opened the lesbian door of possibility. I

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 3>do think that there's also like an Orlando lesbian who

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 3>would wear it too.

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Like the nightmare is that your house is on fire.

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 2>You're not wearing anything, and you're like, just grab a shirt.

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 2>You're surrounded by firefighters and the neighbors, right.

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 3>And they're all women and no one's helping you, and

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 3>you burn alive. It's a good short film.

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I can't wait to find an opportunity

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to wear this wonderful Okay, and now finally there's I'm

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:34.919
<v Speaker 2>touching the mask. It's getting my arm wet.

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 3>Those masks were disgusting. I'm so sorry. I can't wait

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 3>to see what happens to both of our faces burned

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 3>beyond recognition or we trade faces face like the fly.

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 3>It's a portal, all right.

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, this is.

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Just as I said. I just search Ridger, Wineger and Amazon.

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 2>It's a book called Winnegar Reflections Tales from Wisconsin's north

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Woods by Weirdly someone that Bill.

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that wine Again must be the north Woods.

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I did highlight well inside I marked a really important passage.

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 3>But let's hear about Bill Retherford.

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, let's Bill Rutherford was born at Uper lives

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 2>in Milwaukee.

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:22.879
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know what that is. But it's not good.

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I don't.

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't want topers. But still calls Winegar home. So

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Wineger's a city or a town or a lake. Here's

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:32.880
<v Speaker 2>what people are saying. Oh it's got good press.

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, yeah, some people are saying.

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Janice Felts says, it has brought to my mind pleasant,

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 2>humorous and melancholy memories we had we had put in

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:43.839
<v Speaker 2>the back of our mind. This brought them out too,

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:48.839
<v Speaker 2>triggering sharing times that we are for the most all,

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, all familiar with.

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay for the most part. And so they're admitting that

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 3>it's not universal.

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is not it's not going to be a

0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 2>huge ship.

0:54:57.960 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Actually, you won't relate to this at all.

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.759
<v Speaker 2>And Steve Finnegan says, very cool. I love the way

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you tell stories.

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Will you look up

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Steve Finnigan? Wait, can I tell you something really cool? Yes, quickly,

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 3>just saying, will you look up somebody? Have you ever

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 3>watched International House Hunters before?

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Of course.

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay. There was an episode with these people that I

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 3>want to say had gone. They were this family that

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 3>was moving to like Malaca or somewhere, and they were

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 3>moving from like Sarasota, and the whole time I was like,

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 3>something is up, Like this family is like on the lamb,

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 3>the vibes are weird. Something's off. I like finally found

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 3>his name like on Reddit or something. I googled this

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 3>man and he was like Housted as like the University

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:47.800
<v Speaker 3>of Florida, something like women's I want to say it

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 3>was basketball, but maybe it was football or so, I

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 3>can't remember soccer. I think it was soccer, was women's soccer.

0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 3>And he a lot of them claimed that he had

0:55:56.600 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 3>made them bleimic and that he was I know, but

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 3>it was to go from watching international house centers being

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 3>like something's up and then like going straight to this thing.

0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 3>And they severed him with pay, and clearly he had

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 3>used the pay to find this house and put himself

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:17.839
<v Speaker 3>on TV. It's interesting that the family would go right

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:18.920
<v Speaker 3>onto TV from.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's truly just psychopath behavioral, just like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Away with the best life, low level, low level, best

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<v Speaker 3>life behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I've often especially not just on regular house Hunters,

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<v Speaker 2>because there are various other issues with those people, but

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 2>on international you're always.

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<v Speaker 3>Like something something, it's always tax people or like I

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 3>couldn't ever find a husband.

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's like there's never just a like, oh we

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:49.240
<v Speaker 2>want to see the world. There's something driving them away.

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 2>And for you to have actually found one of these

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<v Speaker 2>people is.

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<v Speaker 3>It was exciting incredible. It was huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you highlighted part of this I did.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a passage. I want you to take heart

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<v Speaker 3>to heart.

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<v Speaker 2>It says, we hope that some should read this whole.

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:04.799
<v Speaker 3>Paragraph, the whole thing, all connected as one.

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<v Speaker 2>We hope that someday Weininger may die. That is a

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.720
<v Speaker 2>universal message. Most people have that on front of mind.

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I'm listening to this podcast. The moment they

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 2>click play, that comes. That's immediate where they're thinking, we

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 2>get to wow, this is a beautiful book. I can't

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 2>wait to find out. I should visit Weininger. I wonder.

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they'd help post or like a I'm there's

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<v Speaker 3>an honorary mayor or something. It would help them get

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 3>a blue check if you. Wininger should host me at

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 3>some point, I should come to a little parade. We've

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 3>got chapters such as Hot Pursuit. I wonder what happens

0:57:53.200 --> 0:58:00.920
<v Speaker 3>there A visit from the Bear's Death Knell a small town.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no good news coming out of Wine. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>curse name.

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 2>This is a bad place.

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<v Speaker 3>It is crazy. Is it German?

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<v Speaker 2>Wininger is? I think it's Dutch. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 2>something about vineyards or something.

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Most Mormons.

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Mormons are there's a you know, it's I would say

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 2>white mutt, but like Scandinavian, English, Scottish.

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 3>So interesting because there's the look like the Mormon look.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that ever have been from the same like

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<v Speaker 3>gene Pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I think it's largely like Northern Europe Scandinavia, yeah,

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 2>and British and then right because there are a lot

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of Anderson's Sorenson's like these kind of very right scandy names,

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>scandy words.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it's not terrible. It's a derogatory word about

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<v Speaker 3>the most oppressed people.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, those people, Northern European people, you're.

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Not into them.

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<v Speaker 3>They get these tests, these census tests where they say

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<v Speaker 3>they're the happiest so fappiest countries in the world, and

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 3>they're the most depressed alcoholics and the well sweeten's different.

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 3>They have a little sense of humor, but like they

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 3>are the most joyless, finish people, and they say they're

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 3>the happiest and they do carry the sun goes down

0:59:24.160 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 3>at noon and they do karaoke and their alcoholics do

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:28.440
<v Speaker 3>karaoke for twelve hours after the sun goes down. And

0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 3>they say they're the most happy people in the world,

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and we believe them. What's driving and we go, well,

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 3>there's something wrong with us. Every time I said.

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Those is so fucked truly. Any It's like a yearly headline. Yeah,

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 2>and it make sure you just have this existential thing

0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 2>of like, well, there's no way I can get to

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 2>that life. I'm trapped in this body in this country.

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And meanwhile people are living it up.

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:51.439
<v Speaker 2>They're having the time of their lives, and I can't

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 2>really prove anything.

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 3>I went to Finland in some like film school exchange

0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 3>situation that was like a week of like having to

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 3>meet people, and I was like really trying to be personable.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole time, I was consistently shut down socially in

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<v Speaker 3>every every way you can shut someone down. At the

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<v Speaker 3>end of they were like, you know, when we first

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<v Speaker 3>met to you, we thought, you know, this here is

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<v Speaker 3>so forward and we're not for it. And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you think I felt? I was like I

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<v Speaker 3>was working overtime to make social situations work, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>worse for yourself. Oh, that's why I read the codependency book.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can finally go back to fit yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited about Wineger. I've got my T shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got I mean, you've really You've changed everything for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to start my second chapter. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should play a game. We can play a game called

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<v Speaker 2>Gift or a curse. But I need a number between

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<v Speaker 2>one and ten from you.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten, Okay, I have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to do some like calculating to get our

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<v Speaker 2>game pieces. So right now you can recommend, promote, do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I mean you can just follow me in

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram where nothing happens anymore. I met ge Charles Rogers.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the English spelling of Rogers, r og no, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the French. The French Norman spelling is r O g

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<v Speaker 3>r O d g is the English Anglo spelling. Fuck uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to make another TV show. I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>To god, I don't know, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope. I hope it all happens.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know, I mean, everything's insane. People want you

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<v Speaker 2>to make another TV show.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope so, I mean, I hope they do. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know anymore. Of the world's scary, the.

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<v Speaker 2>World's very odd, But I feel like eventually people. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one a very late adopter to this podcast. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>this will be a commercial for your show.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be nice. It's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna name three things. You're gonna tell me if they're

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<v Speaker 2>gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you if you're right or wrong because there are correct answers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be right. I think I know you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll see, we shall see.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This first one is from our make a tier of

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<v Speaker 2>suggestions from a listener named Christina. Gift or a curse.

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<v Speaker 2>Cashiers who ask you what you're doing tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I think the obvious answer is curse, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say gift because it's an opportunity to lie, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's an opportunity to find out what comes out of

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<v Speaker 3>you in situations like that, and it's a good check

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<v Speaker 3>in for your comfort level with strangers and your relationship

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<v Speaker 3>to going out correct. I knew it, And a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>logic that's so fantastic. First of all, we love our cashiers, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we do. I love a visit with my cash here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, like nothing anytime anyone asks me, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing tonight? My mind goes blank? Right, so why

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<v Speaker 2>not just say whatever you want? You're never going to

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<v Speaker 2>see this person again.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's very tricky because if you are doing something cool,

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<v Speaker 3>then you don't want to be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Right But then if you're doing nothing, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the loser that the cashier makes the cashier sad.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to keep it simple because people can't

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<v Speaker 3>handle more than a few words. Yeah, you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>probably six word plan, but then you get to see

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<v Speaker 3>what how they react you.

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<v Speaker 2>The person behind you is wondering what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there.

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<v Speaker 2>Before you even start talking. No, I think it's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that cashiers should be prying into everyone's speak. Cashier,

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<v Speaker 2>who could ask for more? Who could ask for more?

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<v Speaker 2>A feeling. I I rarely feel closer to someone than

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<v Speaker 2>when a cashier is dealing with a difficult customer. Le

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<v Speaker 2>we make icons totally, Oh, the intimacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally and yeah, and the superiority then and then the

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<v Speaker 3>over correcting of being esternized.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your time to shine and then you fumble.

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<v Speaker 3>Using it's my role to restore their their belief in humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you've gotten one correct so far. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens next. Gift her curses from a listener named Ian

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<v Speaker 2>gift to a curse when someone knows something and asks

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<v Speaker 2>you to guess.

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<v Speaker 3>When someone knows something and asks you to yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>think curse. Honestly, Oh gosh, no, oh god. It could

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<v Speaker 3>go either way. I think that I'm gonna say. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say gift because it is an opportunity to let

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<v Speaker 3>someone else have the power and to work through what

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<v Speaker 3>that does to your own interiority.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hate to say it, you're wrong because

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<v Speaker 2>that was a real look at this, and you did

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<v Speaker 2>give us some thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's just annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to just be as straightforward with this as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>What could be more irritating? Right, And every time I

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<v Speaker 2>will just I cut to the chase. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to guess. I just say I don't want to guess.

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<v Speaker 2>And if the person continues to push me to guess,

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<v Speaker 2>now the tension is through the roof and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be wrong, and then what good? What good comes

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<v Speaker 2>from this? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>It's usually good news. I don't think with bad news,

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<v Speaker 3>people are.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, guess, it's so your daughter's the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, no, no, the cleaner didn't come.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well you got that one wrong. So your plans

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<v Speaker 2>have been really ruined here, but here's one more chance.

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<v Speaker 3>You're an enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from a listener named Sonny Gift to a

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<v Speaker 2>curse cars with engines that shut down stop lights and

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<v Speaker 2>then start up again when you hit the gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Curse why it's not worth it? Everything. The idea that,

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<v Speaker 3>like the consumer is responsible for saving the planet is

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<v Speaker 3>a part of the matrix of whys that we're in

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Like, it is absolutely up to the corporations,

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<v Speaker 3>and like these inconveniences that we embrace in the name

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<v Speaker 3>of like being a responsible consumer are delusional.

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<v Speaker 2>You are correct, Okay, this is the I absolutely hate

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<v Speaker 2>this device. First of all, nobody likes that feeling turn off.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you're sitting at the light, you're freaking out,

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<v Speaker 2>you're panicking, you're wondering. I get used to it. And

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<v Speaker 2>again it's like, especially because it happens with gas cars,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I'm already driving the gas car. What could

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<v Speaker 2>this possibly be doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Any feature that prevents you from getting out of an

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<v Speaker 3>emergency instantly, Like my car if I open the door

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<v Speaker 3>while it's driving, it throws itself in park way.

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<v Speaker 2>More danger.

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<v Speaker 3>What is attacking me? I go through the windshield.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, I have like mine. When I pull

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<v Speaker 2>out when there's there's traffic coming like half a mile away,

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<v Speaker 2>and I try to pull out, it stops.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then it just puts me like it elevates

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<v Speaker 3>my blood pressure, right, and you know you're not desert door.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. None of that stuff really seems to be actually safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe this about yours though. This is going

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<v Speaker 2>to lead to your death.

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<v Speaker 3>Something is I've got a few, I've got a few players.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's absolutely a curse. I think that. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine there's a single person on board with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's one person who's just like this future.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you it's changed everything. What has it changed?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you want it to take little naps?

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<v Speaker 2>My car is a pit. What you got to out

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<v Speaker 2>of three not what you want.

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<v Speaker 3>I really came in trying to win.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like this is something at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, on Alisha, you have your gift or a curse?

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<v Speaker 3>I do what is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go when a restaurant manager comes to the

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<v Speaker 4>table to check in to see how your meal was.

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<v Speaker 3>I it could go either way. I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 3>curse because I guarantee it's when I'm in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm almost to the punchline of my story, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is undoubtedly when I'm interrupted time and time again in

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<v Speaker 3>my life, and it is something God is trying to

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<v Speaker 3>tell me. But also manager. I like it when the owner,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't like on the manager interesting. The owner

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<v Speaker 3>is like, that's cool, and then the manager it's like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, we're fine to everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to I also will say curse. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I see right through it. This is just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of some little thing for them to they're waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>you to read out a waiter or something. They're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to because no one's going to be outright mean or

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<v Speaker 2>complain to the manager's face. And also, if I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to the manager, you'll hear me screaming at

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<v Speaker 2>an employee, I want to talk to your manager.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think that they're coming around being like, so

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<v Speaker 3>you sure you sure? Betsy's a good Yeah, exactly. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a curse.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to say gift.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to say gift because it made me feel

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<v Speaker 4>a little special, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you started getting better kinds of attention exactly. I

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<v Speaker 3>read the codependency.

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<v Speaker 4>But I recently went out to dinner with my father,

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<v Speaker 4>like about two weeks ago, okay, no, sorry, went out

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<v Speaker 4>to dinner and the manager was just like staring at

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<v Speaker 4>our table for a while. Finally approached kind of men singly.

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<v Speaker 4>According to my dad, I didn't this was all happening

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<v Speaker 4>behind me, and he goes, Hi, there, how how did

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<v Speaker 4>you discover us? First of all like an agenda? And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, I saw, I saw TikTok about this place.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't seem Indiana Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, well, what do you think of You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we've been getting a lot of one star reviews lately,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you think of that? Somebody gave me a

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<v Speaker 4>one star review for the music, and somebody gave me

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<v Speaker 4>a one star review for like having like this special

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<v Speaker 4>kind of bread. And I suddenly just saw this man

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<v Speaker 4>like unravel before my eyes, and he was just I

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<v Speaker 4>was just like, you're just trying to see if I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to give you a bad YELP review, Please leave.

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<v Speaker 3>I was you don't hate me? He's like, I was

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<v Speaker 3>so ready going to give you a.

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<v Speaker 4>One star review just for doing this like I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a good.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly and now you are absolute curse.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not It's about them and they're in securities

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<v Speaker 4>as a as an employee, not about the actual experience

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<v Speaker 4>you're having.

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<v Speaker 2>While we all walk away winners here except for managers

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<v Speaker 2>managing expectations. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>With Fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>Fingers a spell. Will you help me answer a listener question?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course people are writing into I said no gifts

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<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com. We have voice notes, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's we should read some of these emails

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<v Speaker 2>on occasion or these poor people they're pouring their souls

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<v Speaker 2>out to me, and then you know, I can't turn

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<v Speaker 2>my back on everyone. Yes, okay, this is Bridger and Guest.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in a two story house with my husband

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<v Speaker 2>and two dogs, and we live in a shoes off household.

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<v Speaker 2>One dog relentlessly shreds while the shreds on the guitar.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like cartoon notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheds, while the other one has curly hair and constantly

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<v Speaker 2>tracks in dirt and other sticks leaves into the house.

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<v Speaker 2>This person hates their dogs. My husband and I naturally

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<v Speaker 2>split most of the chores throughout our day today. But

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that I can't seem to get is his

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<v Speaker 2>assistance with sweeping slash vacuuming our house. When he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get a rug in the living room against my

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<v Speaker 2>protests due to the difficulty this would make for my

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<v Speaker 2>regular sweeping. Are you following the sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to get a He wanted to get a

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<v Speaker 3>rug to make this sweeping more difficulty. Is that what

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<v Speaker 3>it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? And the writer is saying, because I now need

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<v Speaker 2>to dust bust oh, I need to bust out the vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>He promised he would regularly vacuum the rug to prevent

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<v Speaker 2>fur slash dirt build up. Okay, so he got the

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<v Speaker 2>rug and the compromise was, please let me get the rug,

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<v Speaker 2>all vacuum it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I think I can count on one hand how

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<v Speaker 2>many times he has vacuumed this rug. And he even

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<v Speaker 2>wants to get more rugs for the hallway. Sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>he's in that book.

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<v Speaker 3>He's addicted to rugs because he is scared of the

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<v Speaker 3>dogs slipping on the hard wood. Okay, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we are reading a book. Unfortunately, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>understand the additional obstacles this presents in my sweeping quest.

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<v Speaker 3>I have tried being both explicit and passive aggressive and

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get his help in sweeping the floors, but

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<v Speaker 3>with no success. How can I get my husband to

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<v Speaker 3>help me clean the floors? Do I accumulate the dust

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<v Speaker 3>slash fur that I regularly sweep up in a bin

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<v Speaker 3>and dump it on his side of the bed?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Do?

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<v Speaker 2>I just suck it up and keep sweeping on my

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<v Speaker 2>own help? And that's from Derek.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it was a man. I knew it was

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<v Speaker 3>a gig guy, and that does affect my answer.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does he do?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know. I think they say that

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<v Speaker 3>if you so. Elizabeth Gilbert, who wrote You Pray Love,

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<v Speaker 3>says that if you don't can't identify a passion in life,

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<v Speaker 3>you should follow your curiosity. So I think that we

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<v Speaker 3>need to step out of the rubric of rugs and

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<v Speaker 3>dogs and pursue Well, what else is there? And what else? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What else could what could make me? What could give

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<v Speaker 3>me purpose?

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<v Speaker 2>And other than hating my husband? I mean, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps too cold, right? Do you think that people I

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<v Speaker 3>like to be shook awake.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think, I mean I always go to

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<v Speaker 2>leave him, but I think I know if he had

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<v Speaker 2>sent a picture, we would have been able to say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is worth sticking around for and letting him just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of neglect you curious. Uh, it'd be interesting if

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<v Speaker 2>they have kids and they didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they not say with the dog the dogs?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like he's he's not happy with his life.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't like the things these dogs are doing. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like rugs at all, he doesn't like the husband,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't like vacuuming.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I think, actually he enjoys this role of bitching,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he does love his life. He likes

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<v Speaker 3>to play to a podcast about this, so like he

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<v Speaker 3>does enjoy like the veil of this podcast right now.

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<v Speaker 3>He does enjoy like like being like Derek, like I

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<v Speaker 3>guess he's Derek might be.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the Derek Derek couples. Derek, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like if this went away, he'd be so bored,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd have nothing to talk to his friends about at dinner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is keeping the marriage alive, right. The moment that

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<v Speaker 2>Derek too starts sweeping or vacuuming. It's gonna flatten out,

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be zero passion. Yeah, there are two dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>so they can pretty much split up pretty evenly. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not a big fight, and yeah, then it's over. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so Derek just let it lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think he's doing exactly what he likes to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's got his name.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's he likes his nasty little game, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is his opportunity to have a little

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<v Speaker 3>spotlight on his little nasty game. And I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna play it every day for the rest of his life.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just gonna snowball into more and more

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<v Speaker 2>risky behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have to protect ourselves and we can't get

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<v Speaker 3>sucked into this. First and foremost, we have to distance

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves from this email and Derek card boundary, these toxic

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<v Speaker 3>these toxic rock obsessed guess men, Derek, don't write back

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<v Speaker 3>in Oh, Charles, we answered the question perfectly. My life

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<v Speaker 3>is just the texture in my life now is wet,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely soaked, just wet and slimy, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>embrace it and be afraid of women. I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 3>have led you there, Thank you for being, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for having listener. The podcast is over.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you've you know, given some thought to something about

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<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna do with your day, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>had some sugar so you don't just slump over and die.

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<v Speaker 2>Move on, do what you need to do. I love you, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our

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<v Speaker 2>senior producer is on Alise Nelson, and our episodes are

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<v Speaker 2>beautifully mixed by Ben Toliday. The theme song is by

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<v Speaker 2>miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without

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<v Speaker 2>our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>At I said no Gifts, that's where you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And

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<v Speaker 2>don't you want to see the gifts? I invit?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no guests, you're our presences, presents and I

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<v Speaker 1>already had too much stuff, So how do you dare

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<v Speaker 1>to survey me? Became the thea