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Speaker 1: Guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty.

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Speaker 1: And I said, no guests, your presences, presents, and I

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? Welcome to

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Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're in the backyard.

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Speaker 2: We haven't been in the backyard in a minute, which

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Speaker 2: I've started watching Little House on the Prairie two episodes in.

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Speaker 2: I truly don't know why the Ingles family hasn't killed themselves.

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Speaker 2: It's the things these people are going through. It's just

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Speaker 2: too much for me. But I'm going to continue see

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Speaker 2: if it ends up worth them living through the prairie.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else. We've got The Chicago show

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Speaker 2: coming up May twenty third, the Den Theater. Google it,

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Speaker 2: go to our instagram, find a way to the website,

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Speaker 2: buy a ticket. We're gonna have a fantastic time. Talked

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Speaker 2: about the Little House on the Prairie. Little House in Prairie.

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Speaker 2: It's not the I'm new to the program. I think

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Speaker 2: just kind of rambling here. The school bell is ringing,

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Speaker 2: the children are screaming, let's get into the podcast. I

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Speaker 2: adore today's guest. It's Charles Rogers.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, Charles welcome.

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Speaker 2: I said, no, good, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Ring.

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Speaker 3: I have to get to class. It's been nice.

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Speaker 2: So you've been itching to get back to school. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I had lunch, I have to go. The bell tolling

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just they're all like artists and parents and

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Speaker 3: They should be stressed, yeah, And they shouldn't know each other, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: They should be singing like hot to go to their

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Speaker 3: Strollers are satanic.

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Speaker 3: Strollers are the bin her of stroller culture is it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as an opportunity to see girls when you.

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Speaker 3: Totally and the work and also like they've been validated

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's all your everything that you thought you were

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Speaker 2: We don't know what they think or feel at all

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Speaker 2: podcast is called I Said No Gifts, And from from

441
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: what I understand, you have at least heard the title

442
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: of the podcast. You've probably seen an email or two.

443
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 1: Ah.

444
00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: So I was honestly floored when you came just kind

445
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: of cruising through my backyard holding what could not more

446
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: clearly be a gift.

447
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: Look, I had to do it.

448
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: Back against the wall. I appreciation for you in our

449
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: history are rich. Okay, Well, I mean it's here, you're here, yeah, okay,

450
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: it's in this, it's behind you. And I've put in

451
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: the work.

452
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: You even feel anything anymore? When you when you say this,

453
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: Yes you do. That's the shocking thing to me. It's

454
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 3: like a play.

455
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: The fact that I still feel something while recording this podcast. Yeah,

456
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: choices the biggest miracle of my life. I mean we've

457
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: done hundreds. Yeah, and most people at this point, I

458
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: feel like, would be completely numb. And I'm numb in

459
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: every other area of my life. Right, what's happening?

460
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: You know? I wasn't gonna push, but I really.

461
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

462
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you. Okay, there's actually one thing. It

463
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: is just genuinely like a real gift because I think

464
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: it's this is actually just something for you.

465
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 2: This is in a cold sack, a cold sack. Okay,

466
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: that's a good crinkle. Yeah, pulling this out, I just

467
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: got some air.

468
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: You know. This is an incredible case. It looks nice

469
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: on the counter. Oh, you didn't have to buy it

470
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: for yourself.

471
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: This is the dream because yeah, I certainly would never

472
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 2: buy this to actually wash dishes.

473
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 3: Right, well, you know what, I have it, and now

474
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: you did too.

475
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: You know, I just wouldn't. I don't feel like I'm

476
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: worthy of that purchase.

477
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand like, I'll just buy the dog. I mean,

478
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: you might not be, but I got it for you anyway.

479
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 3: It smells so good. It's nice, this is lovely, it's nice.

480
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 3: I started taking fragrance making classes. I have a dream

481
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: of being oh my god, i was at a party

482
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago and I'm very drunken. I just

483
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: have a memory of drunkenly turning around to like a

484
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: group of people I just and being like, it's official,

485
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: I'm starting a fragrance line in twenty twenty six, Like

486
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 3: everyone being like who. Like I woke up next morning

487
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: and be like, oh my god, but I'm learning a

488
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 3: lot about fragrance. And in a bottle of perfume, they

489
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: say that there is never there's rarely more than ten

490
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 3: dollars worth of of like material.

491
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. And then the rest is alcohol and water.

492
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: And spit and spit tears.

493
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: Just whatever they find on the factory floor. Yeah, well,

494
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: how long have you been taking the class.

495
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: I've been taking them for like a few months, since

496
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: since the summer, I've been taking them. Yeah, eventually. But

497
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: the more I learned, the more I'm like, whatever, I

498
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: don't know. That's how I feel about every hobby, you're

499
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: numb to it. I'm not. Yeah, more you're getting into something,

500
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: the more you have to do and that of course.

501
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: I took sailing lessons a couple of years ago, and

502
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: the boy scout, I know, I felt, I felt, I

503
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: felt like a man in moments, and uh, and the

504
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: more I got into it, like you're out there all

505
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: day with like people named like Margaret Vansha and you

506
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: don't know them because like you have to take them

507
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: with like and that's like she this is a I

508
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: changed her first name, not her last name, but she

509
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: did somebody. She was a cocktail waitress at a big

510
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: hotel in Santa Monica. So you're like there with like

511
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 3: random people and then it was fun at first, and

512
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: then you get into like like the boat, like the

513
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: battery or like the toilets, and then I was like,

514
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: I don't care. Why would you.

515
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: Ever gotten to know? Yeah, the battery, I didn't even

516
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: understand it was a battery.

517
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: And one there's a battery. There's a Duris hall.

518
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: Is that for like an emergency motor or something you

519
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: have to have, like.

520
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: A PA system, you have to have whatever. Well, so

521
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 3: if you're going to teach.

522
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: Wow, I had no idea, and now I know too

523
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: much about sale. Yeah, I didn't want to know any

524
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: of them.

525
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: A one oh one of any hobby is great, and

526
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: then a one o two is like, oh this sucks. Right.

527
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: This was just to kill time and now it's taking

528
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 2: over my I'm closer to that. How did you find

529
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: out about this fragrance making class?

530
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: I went to some sort of like fair thing and

531
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: there's a woman there who had made her own fragrances,

532
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: and I was like, how did you learn this? And

533
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: she told me the school and I just started going, wow,

534
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: So what.

535
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: Does it require? Like you go to class and are

536
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: you like learning the chemistry of all of these things

537
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: or is it just like mix different bottles together?

538
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: You can go either way, Like, if you're going to

539
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: do it for real, then you have to then you

540
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: should have been a chemist from day one. So but

541
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: if you're going to just be like a brand bitch,

542
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: like you whatever you want, but it is it isn't.

543
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: What's weird about it is that it is an invisible

544
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: art and and like you can really, I can really.

545
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: It brought out a sense of self doubt that I

546
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: have as a runner in my life, where people are like,

547
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: I smell lime, and then I was like, I'm so stupid.

548
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 3: I'm not good at anything, Like I don't smell lime.

549
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: And then someone's like, I don't smell lime, and I'm like,

550
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: that's true, I don't smell It's like it is it

551
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: brings out something where you really gaslight yourself about the.

552
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: Truth of Yeah, I have a really bad sense of smell,

553
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: so I feel like this would be my ultimate nightmare. Yeah,

554
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: and then I also am a joiner, so I'd just

555
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: be like I would just agree with whoever's talking about

556
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: the smell, right, and then I would learn nothing and

557
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: create garbage.

558
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: Right, You're useless.

559
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: I'm a useless in any capacity, So like, what's the

560
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: end goal? Is to create your own fragrance within the class.

561
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: It's whatever you want. And it's very like there's no

562
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: accreditation and people just drop out. And I've never like

563
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: seen the same person twice really, so you've really kept

564
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: it's workshoppy because there's nothing, there's no real way to

565
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: do this. So I don't know I have I have

566
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: a goal. I just feel like we all need to

567
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: have like side jobs.

568
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's probably a good idea. I don't

569
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: know if fragrance is the right, but now you've got

570
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: the knowledge.

571
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 3: I know by the time my company has ve been going,

572
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: and it's like we're going to be in like the

573
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: next great depression. I'm going to be like, but this rubarb.

574
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: Each week? Do you create a different scent or what happens?

575
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like we should just move on. I

576
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: want to know I can't go regularly.

577
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 5: The more.

578
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: Exposed out to enu as my relationship to this holding is.

579
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: Do you wear any fragrances?

580
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: I do all that. Okay, okay, what fragrances are you

581
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: wearing right now? I'm wearing Joe Malone, Pnocchi and cedar wood.

582
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: It's really wozy, and.

583
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: Also something called B d K Greece Arnelle. It's like,

584
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: there's a place called Scent Bar in La there's two

585
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: of them out It's like a little mini moment of

586
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: fragrance and you just go, it's amazing, where is it.

587
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: There's one downtown and then there's one like really close

588
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: to the grove, but it's it's like you go in

589
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: and you're just like, I like like incensey smells, and

590
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: they're like, isn't this one wonderful.

591
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Is there any like scent that you hate that you

592
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't wear?

593
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: I really struggle with like ood and musks is like

594
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: a fermented wood. It's very It's popular in like South Asia,

595
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: but it's like in the Middle East, but it's it's

596
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: really pungent and it's hard. Like that's the thing that

597
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: fragrances are. Also like wine culture, where like the more

598
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: sophisticated you are, the more open you are to like,

599
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: you know, not just nice thing, right, you want the

600
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: hardest And I'm just like a basic person, right right. Unfortunately, Well,

601
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever smelled an oode. Let's go,

602
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: thank you? Does this does have a generator? These mics?

603
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Get in the car?

604
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's for you.

605
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: Let's I'm so thrilled about this. And I just ran

606
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: out of soap, to be honest, So here we go.

607
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: We go again, Okay, let's get back into the bag.

608
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: Here.

609
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: Does it matter what order these come out?

610
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 3: And not really? I think no, I think, oh, actually,

611
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: let's do this first. Right.

612
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: They're beautifully wrapped in kind of a confetti style wrapping paper.

613
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: Well, every day, every day should feel like a party.

614
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: You've always said.

615
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: My darkest times.

616
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, Matt like a face mask.

617
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: Little yeah, little animal masks.

618
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: And they're cheetah colored or animals. These are full like

619
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: almost Halloween costume level because the other side has unicorn

620
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 2: and they're made from Alaska glacier water, which I refuse

621
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: to believe does it?

622
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: Say yes, Wow, there's no chance. There's no chance there is.

623
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean you can anybody can call a glacier water

624
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: if you want water. You know, it's traveling around the world.

625
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: It's getting sucked up into clouds and taken elsewhere. So

626
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: who knows. Also has fruit extract, but they don't tell

627
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: you which fruit. Yeah, this feels like a allergen. Where

628
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: did you get these?

629
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: Amazon? And has this wonderful little store online.

630
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: This funky little sht to try it.

631
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

632
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: Do you ever use this type of mask?

633
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: No? No, have you ever? I have. I've done it,

634
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: like you know, in girly moments with rights.

635
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always Uh. I feel like it is the

636
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: sort of thing that if you're gonna get results, you

637
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: have to do it regularly.

638
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't think these work, to be honest, there's no

639
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: way there's an eight year old girls party that which

640
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: came first. Yeah, so I like, I've tried them once

641
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: or twice and I never mind it. But it is

642
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: a thing where you're kind of stuck wearing it. Yeah,

643
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: I can't quite live your life. Maybe you'd want to

644
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: wear them on the show.

645
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, should wear one right now? Do you

646
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: want to wear one as well?

647
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: I'll wear one with you. Okay, it'll it'll work better

648
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: on you because you don't have a tear.

649
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I was curious about that. Now I'm gonna

650
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: give you a choice. We have a cheetah, Panda Loma, mermaid.

651
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: What do you want? What do you want?

652
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: Well, I want to see what the mermaid looks like. Well,

653
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 2: this doesn't make any sense. That's almost nothing. And then

654
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: a unicorn. I think I'm gonna go with. I think

655
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go fold with a cheetah.

656
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: The cheatah is cue, what do you want? My god?

657
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: The mermaid is really dumb. I think I want to know.

658
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: I want to be sexy if we're going out like

659
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: this club after the water, okay, god knows I am. Oh.

660
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: Well, these are sopping wet. This is the wettest mask.

661
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: I ordered them extra wet. I called Jeff Bezos and

662
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I said, hold on, I know you're

663
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: loading women into a spaceship, but I want these masks sweat.

664
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: Look what they really are? Okay, oh my god? Oh

665
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: and soapy.

666
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think this is different.

667
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: Sorry, thank you for doing that. This is more air Wars. Now.

668
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: The video of this is horror.

669
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: My god.

670
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: Now I'm wearing a mask listener, and I can't possibly

671
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: imagine what I.

672
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: Look like right now. It smells like a car wash.

673
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: I feel like bank robbery and heist movies. They're always

674
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: like trying to find the next like what weird masks

675
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: will the person be wearing? And I feel like this

676
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: is not the worst idea, you know, like in the

677
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: town they wore the non masks.

678
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: My god, I don't even know what you're talking about.

679
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: Is what is that like a Mark Walbert movie.

680
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: It's a probably it's a set in Boston, for sure,

681
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: he's got to be in it. But at some point

682
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: people wear kind of a I don't even know where

683
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: they got these frightening noun masks because what retailer is

684
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: selling this clearly frightening? Wow, this is I gotta stretch it.

685
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: Here we go.

686
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to see what we look like

687
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: after this full mentality. Grace.

688
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: You look like this has just become your truth.

689
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: Actually, I've revealed my full self at last.

690
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: I kind of see it. I get it.

691
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: Oh, do you have any sort of skincare routine?

692
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: No? I do. The only consistent compliment I get in

693
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: my life is my skin.

694
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: You've got great skin, but you do nothing.

695
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: I do nothing, but I do. I do think. I

696
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: just drink a lot of water naturally. Sure. Sure, I'm

697
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: like a very compuls person, and so drinking water is

698
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: just it's just something to compulsively do.

699
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: It's such an easy habit to have. Yeah, unless you

700
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: die of water poisoning or something such.

701
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: As possible well alask in glacier.

702
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is kind of the secret of

703
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: skincare is do is don't do that much. Yeah, I

704
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: think people are doing like these just like getting in

705
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: my mouth. People are doing these fifty step routines. Yes,

706
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: and what results are they really getting? Yeah? Meanwhile, you're

707
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: walking around new as a baby and you're doing nothing.

708
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: I do sleep eight hours. The one thing for all

709
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: of my insanity that I have going on upstairs.

710
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Like, I do sleep. You sleep pretty well.

711
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been very lucky with that.

712
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: Are you a person as soon as you get in

713
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 2: bed you're falling asleep?

714
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: Or do you lie there for a while. I I

715
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: usually am suddenly like no, I'm ready to go to sleep.

716
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: IH like wow, I mean, I look at my phone. Unfortunately,

717
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: I need to get out of that habit. But I

718
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: actually have God, do you want an exclusive? I've debated.

719
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about this now. Okay, So I've debated posting

720
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: about this for a while because it just is so

721
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 3: humiliating and tragic. But I got one of those sleep

722
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 3: apps that like tells you if you like like toss

723
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 3: and turn yes, yes, yes, and it records you. And

724
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: I said something, this is like two years old, and

725
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: I like almost posted it, and then I was like, no,

726
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm scared because I just seem like a terrible human.

727
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: But hold on, I cannot wait.

728
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: I can probably find it. It's so like it tells

729
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: you if you like talk in your sleep, and right, okay,

730
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: it's taken. Okay, So I woke up to hearing myself

731
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: say this. There's two parts to it, so like, so

732
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: you're gonna hear the first part and don't don't start

733
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: talking because you'll miss the second.

734
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I cannot wait.

735
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 5: You loser, do you remember what you're dreaming about?

736
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: It took me. I heard it like mid day, and

737
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: I was like what I felt? All my heart broken

738
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: for myself and for whoever. I was like, I think

739
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: I do know who I was talking about, because I

740
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: had a really long dream about a situation in a

741
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: group of people, and I do think it was connected

742
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: to that. It was me who was last night.

743
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: But it's just like, it's like fuck you, It's like losers.

744
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: It's like the saddest. It made me so sad.

745
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: That's a very like walking away from a group that's

746
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: been just been making fun of you.

747
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I which they probably were. I think I

748
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: was justified, just.

749
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: Your head hanging, just feeling absolutely terrible. I'm curious. I

750
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: have to imagine. I I talk in my sleep. I

751
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: did a lot as a kid, and I did a

752
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: lot of sleepwalking. So I should get one of these.

753
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: It just does it record all night?

754
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: Or is it?

755
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this mask?

756
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: I know it's sort of if you want to take

757
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: it off, I think it probably thank you for you

758
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: got what you did and now we're so Dowy. It's disgusting.

759
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.

760
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: I did sleepwalk a lot as a kid, but as

761
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: as I I think I grew out of it, but

762
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: I think I'm getting back into it.

763
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 3: Which you just like walked throughout the house. What would

764
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: you do?

765
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: I would walk through the house. I would At one

766
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: point there were.

767
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Two birds, one stone.

768
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, wake up in your eye watcher watch. There was

769
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: one point, and this was a scary one. I walked

770
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: into my stupwalk into my parents room and sat down

771
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: with him and just started laughing and just was laughing

772
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: and they didn't. Yeah, totally Italian grace. And then there

773
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: was one point when I went and you I walked

774
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: stupwalk into their back room. It just sat on it

775
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: and peede.

776
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: Really nasty, nasty little pig. Nasty little Mormon pig. Get out.

777
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

778
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: I get those kids to la. It is weird when

779
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 2: your body does kind of like, at least practical things

780
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: with sleepwalking in to CBS, just get all of your

781
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: errands done for the day. Do you know if you've

782
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: ever slept walk?

783
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't think I have. Yeah, I barely. I think

784
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: that that amount of speaking is probably the most think Yeah,

785
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: I have a sleep paralysis a lot. You do, I do?

786
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Is it horrifying?

787
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: It is? It sucks now I know what it is. So,

788
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: I mean I've had it since I was like sixteen, probably,

789
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: but it happens consistently on planes, okay, and trains and.

790
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: Cars the worst places to have it happened the worst.

791
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: And I have been in like a middle seat before

792
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: on a plane. And there's a thing when have you

793
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: ever had it? No?

794
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: I haven't.

795
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: So like there's you're awake but asleep and you're locked in,

796
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: and there's like little things that are common where like

797
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: you try and like wiggle your finger and you're like

798
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 3: if I can wiggle my finger, I can wiggle my

799
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: whole arm and then I can like snap out and

800
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: you're just like moving like and it feels like you're

801
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: trying to like push a boulder uphill to get out

802
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: of this like lock in. And I've like fully like

803
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: had like like I've like snapped out of it like

804
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: in a middle seat before and been like it's like

805
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: the most embarrassing, Like.

806
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: This does remind me, Uh, where was I traveling? I

807
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: was on a plane in a couple of months ago

808
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: and I fell asleep and I woke up doing this.

809
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: Wow, you're doing the wave, I guess.

810
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: So, I guess that's kind of similar. But it wasn't

811
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: that you didn't start from paralysis. I just started from

812
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: some frightening dream or something.

813
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

814
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, it really is. And then you can't really

815
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: parents related, yes, but yeah you can't really explain to

816
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: your seat uh fellows.

817
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: People, your seat, husband set, your wife.

818
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then I just have to sit there like

819
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: everything's normal, which is such a bizarre.

820
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

821
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: Do you remember the first time you had sleep paralysis?

822
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: I remember the first time that was really crazy, which

823
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: was in college. I was sleeping in and a regular

824
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: sleep patterns also can contribute it to us, so I'm

825
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: sure I was just like college, sleeping until like eleven

826
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: or something stupid with my college boyfriend, and I suddenly

827
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: was like locked in, and I was like, okay, I'm

828
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: gonna roll myself off the bed, and you have like

829
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: stupid logic like that where you're like, I can do it,

830
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: I can roll myself off. And then finally I actually

831
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: did roll myself off, and when I hit the ground,

832
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: I woke up and I turned to him and I

833
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: started telling him like, oh, my god, I just had sleeprouses.

834
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: And then he started turning into my roommate like before

835
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: my eyes my freshman year dorm, and I was like, oh,

836
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm still in it. And then I was back in

837
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: like the same lot. And so that was lucid dreaming.

838
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, wow what a like combo.

839
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: It was full Like Christopher Nolan likes like.

840
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: No, wow, that's really fascinating. I would love to be

841
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: able to lucid dream. I can't do that. I've never

842
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: done it before. Yeah, but sleep paralysis, I mean even

843
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: if I wake up with my arm asleep, the panic

844
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: I go through.

845
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: I do that all the time. My arms are constantly.

846
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: I want to hear this. It's a recent thing for me.

847
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you feel when you try

848
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: to get the when you wake up in your arms

849
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: asleep and you try to do you flail, I'll get

850
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: the blood back. And when you can't lift your torso

851
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 3: up with your arm, do you take your other arm

852
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: and raise your body up? This is no one's ever

853
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: discussed this.

854
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: It's yeah. And every time my thinking is, oh, this

855
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: is the time that I've.

856
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: You snap it.

857
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I know.

858
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: Every time I'm like, and no.

859
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: It's finally going to happen, and I had and I

860
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. This is just happening to me.

861
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: You know you're gay if you wake up in the

862
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: middle of the night and you're scared that you're gonna

863
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: snap your arms off by twisting and turning. Yeah, I

864
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: think it happens probably once a week to me. Now,

865
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: same what's happening with my body that this is a

866
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: new We should be able to take our arms off

867
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: before bad.

868
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: They're not necessary for sleeping.

869
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: They're not necessary. Similarly, I think that we should all

870
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: take our teeth out early because it's a net loss game.

871
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: You started zero and you only go down.

872
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really do? What what age do you think

873
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: we should get our teeth out?

874
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: I think what what's when you say your first word coquence?

875
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: A real dose for how life works?

876
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: I think I do feel like we're at a point

877
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: technologically and within the medical field and the dental field

878
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: that that should just be like what everyone just we.

879
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: Need to come full circle back to George Washington.

880
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just get them out, get things that you can,

881
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: like put in.

882
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: The dishwasher, or you put your teeth in the dishwasher.

883
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: And wash them with so something that every night you

884
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: just take out and put in a you know, with

885
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: the freezy little tablet, and then put them in the

886
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 2: next morning. I agree, you know, I don't understand what's

887
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: because they're just a health hazard.

888
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: We just eat softer food. You don't mean if we

889
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: just had a soft food industry then everything would be it's.

890
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: Just kind of a soup based co Yeah. No, I'm

891
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: on board with having all of our teeth removed. I

892
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: don't see the point in keeping them.

893
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: No, and they're not actually sexy, No, they're very all

894
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: We just we've created ideologies around teeth to begin and

895
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: that Amy Lou woman, it's certainly breaking down barriers.

896
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: She is breaking. I love the stories about her because

897
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: it's like she is a stunningly beautiful person.

898
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: She's so gorgeous, and I love her. I actually do

899
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: love her teeth, and it's important. I think it's important

900
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: to like glitches and the matrix are important.

901
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: Yes, things like that's just that person's teeth. Yeah, but

902
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: every news article is like this mutant has crawled out

903
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: of the sewer to break.

904
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: Barrier, to fight all odds. It's like, we'll give her

905
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 3: one chance and then we'll let her sail away. Although

906
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: I did see some like she was in a production

907
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: of Cabaret in the UK as like the mc no,

908
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: it's tellibles and she looks very like raggedy and in

909
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: a really good way, I want, I think, and.

910
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: You feel like the teeth contributed to this for sure? Wow,

911
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: So she can really go in any direction, any direction

912
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: where the teeth can be like that teeth Forward productions.

913
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: Uh no, I bond girl? Oh interesting, isn't there like

914
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: a dental bond that there's like a pun in there? Oh?

915
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: There is absolutely What is a dental bond? Is that

916
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: for your dent?

917
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: There's like a tube of toothpaste in the section with

918
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: bond in it.

919
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I think it's called it's not dental bond,

920
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: is it.

921
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: It's like they're gonna be like Great American Family and

922
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: then we have to just like believe you again.

923
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: We find out that computer is just broken.

924
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: It's owned by Great American Family.

925
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I see dent gold gold bond is what

926
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: you're thinking about that?

927
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a yeah, wait what is gold bond?

928
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: Who are you talking to you? Over there?

929
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: You know from everyone else, there's a man there's a

930
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: shadow standing CEO of gold.

931
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: Bonds Ghost body powder. There is people.

932
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 2: Do you do that the powder?

933
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: I do feel no offense. I do feel a paler

934
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: person was more likely to do this. That is I'm deep.

935
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you, but what like is it?

936
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: Did they use it in?

937
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: Uh? Everywhere? There's nastywhere these little fuckers.

938
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 2: I guess it's for a very damp person. I guess,

939
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: so you've got to really dry out the use these masks.

940
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: You got to go.

941
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never done the powder.

942
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: Neither vibe, but I do feel like I don't know

943
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: your practices, but I do feel like grinder. I don't know,

944
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: Like you could imagine walking into someone's house and then

945
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: discovering that they're like a gold bond, like you never know,

946
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: it's all over the couch, like I can't turn back now,

947
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: and they're like, I didn't agree to this.

948
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a It feels like something that is from

949
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: another time. But they're like people probably pockets of the country.

950
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: They're so gold bonds. And then there's gold bog families

951
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: and people who have adopted it late in life as

952
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: some sort of fetish and they love just a powdery experience,

953
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: which I'm not on board with.

954
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: The powder culture is disgusting and it's crazy and it's

955
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: not necessary.

956
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: Powder culture really is. It's kind of like upper room

957
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: of the saloon, just kind of like, yeah, you're masking

958
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: so many things that you should have just washed off.

959
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: Or yes, that's true and that I understand. But I

960
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: do think there's something about it that's like, well, I mean,

961
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: we're all babies, and it's just like, no, we're not.

962
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's something real weird about it, like no

963
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: one said we're babies. Yeah, I don't.

964
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm strictly a deode rent stick. Yeah you've done a

965
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: dealdant spray. I think I've like shared someone's okay, Yeah,

966
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that when you can share.

967
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, that's a good point.

968
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I only really sweat and smell

969
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: if I'm working out, and I'm not like a sweaty smell, right,

970
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: and so so you're not a daily deodorant person. I

971
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: try not to be. Wow, I'm trying. I am, like,

972
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: but I really love to feel clean and I love

973
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: like little rituals and so I do like to do it.

974
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: But I'm actually thinking i'm going to stop. And so

975
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: I'm I'm weaning right now for health reasons. Yeah, I

976
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 3: just I mean, like think about it, Like, why are

977
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 3: we caking something into our crevice? Right? I can't be right.

978
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: It's just like literally asking we're asking it to be absorbed.

979
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: It's not going anywhere. Yeah, one place to the neighbor,

980
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: the pits of the neighbors do the heart.

981
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so scared now. But I would

982
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: rather have people happy with me than be medically safe.

983
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: Because have you ever read Codependancy?

984
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: No more? I need to. It's really good.

985
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be I'm afraid it's gonna be

986
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: two eye opening for me.

987
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: So and and but okay, in that case, what is

988
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: the point of.

989
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: Life to feel myself from anything?

990
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 3: Wow? Sort of growth through you. You're one of the

991
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: few people that will admit it, who actually says it.

992
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's time for me to read it. But what

993
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: if it shifts everything?

994
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: I mean it could, but I think yeah it could.

995
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: I it made me see a lot of stuff. But

996
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: it's it's I like her her vibe. She's like it's

997
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: old school. It's like the first seminal codependency books and

998
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: and so it's a lot of it's about alcoholism, because

999
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: like that's all they thought it was ely twenties and

1000
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: then but like she gives example, she's like she's got

1001
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: like a voice sort of like I like this. Yeah,

1002
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: you actually kind of like her, Like she's kind of

1003
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: funny too, And she's like, say, your son's a shopaholic

1004
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: and he says, Mom, I'm going to shop till I

1005
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: drop and you go back upstairs and you and the

1006
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 3: mother like it's just like the most crazy specific Yeah,

1007
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: it's these situations that you're like.

1008
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: What, wait, what's her name?

1009
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: Do you know?

1010
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't I can't put it on the spot with author. Yeah,

1011
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: well okay, I'm gonna get into that.

1012
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: Is that Melody Beady?

1013
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: Incredible name.

1014
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: She's great, she's very likable. But it's all it's like,

1015
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: say your husband throws you down the stairs, steals your

1016
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 3: corvette and doesn't show back up for two months. Are

1017
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: you going to let him back in? This is literally

1018
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: exactly what she sounds like. I'm getting it, really, I'm

1019
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: getting really good.

1020
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: Well, at least to get the keys to my corvette.

1021
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, okay we have There are obviously other

1022
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: things in here, I've got to that's say Okay, now

1023
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: this is more of a tube shaped object.

1024
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: Don't get your host out. It's not a tube.

1025
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a T shirt, a T shirt.

1026
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: This is I am afraid of what I found it

1027
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: on Amazon. I used that's what I wanted to no,

1028
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: because I am afraid of women. It's like that's very gay, yes,

1029
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: but then it's also for what, like.

1030
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: Like what is who's wearing it? Like a like a

1031
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: bro in Vegas?

1032
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: Like who is it for?

1033
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1034
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: Like?

1035
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't know because obviously contextually it's going to mean

1036
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: all sorts of different things on the person and what

1037
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: environment they're in. If I were to be wearing this,

1038
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: what am I? What am I trying to say?

1039
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: Well, let's find o.

1040
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear this on an episode of What Would

1041
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: You Do? And it'll just be a man wearing this shirt?

1042
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: What would you do with this?

1043
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: Man?

1044
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: Wow, this is a fascinating thing.

1045
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I actually Amazon. I searched your name in Amazon.

1046
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding, I'm not getting And then so I

1047
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: found a shirt that said god it said I am

1048
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: Bridger doing Bridger things literally like if you Amazon your name,

1049
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: it's like the boy, it's like I was like, do

1050
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: I get that? And then I was like I hate it,

1051
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: Like I hate I am bridger to it. I just

1052
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: didn't like the sound saying it coming. Yes, And so

1053
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: then when I clicked on that, it was like you

1054
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: might also like and it led to the shirt and

1055
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is like a natural path. Wow,

1056
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 3: this is this must be a whole industry.

1057
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: I there's some sort of bot or something that's just

1058
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: literally throwing words together that could be tied into Amazon

1059
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: and the search results.

1060
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: Well, it's an interesting expression of misogyny because it's giving

1061
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: women power over the wearer. Yes, So I don't fully

1062
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: get it, Like I'm a little bit like who is

1063
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: who is what straight man out there who like wants

1064
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: to like hand it to women on a T shirt

1065
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: is also being like because I'm lesser than you, I

1066
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: don't understand it. Personality type of you could pause. It's

1067
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 3: a dangerous person, a very dangerous person. You're right, no

1068
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: matter who wears it, Like.

1069
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you would operate in the

1070
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: world walking around in this. No one is going to

1071
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: treat you in any way you want them to.

1072
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's going to give you the power in

1073
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: any exchange. It's anyway you can throw that away as

1074
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: eighteen dollars. I could have used a fascinating towards therapy.

1075
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: I would love to see one person I would love

1076
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: to meet an interview if you, if you already own

1077
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: this product, reach out to the podcast and we'll interview you.

1078
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Try to get to the bottom of your behavior in

1079
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: your lifestyle, because yeah, I just don't know. At least

1080
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: you have any guesses.

1081
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: I have two guesses. I have two guesses.

1082
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: One is like a group of like a toxic and

1083
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 4: male friend group, Like they're going out to Vegas and

1084
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: they put that on like the weakest.

1085
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: Link you can't get.

1086
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 4: A girl or a lesbian, a little he's afraid of

1087
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: would wear that to the club and be like, please

1088
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 4: just hit on me.

1089
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I think lesbian. I think now I feel ashamed

1090
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: for not having opened the lesbian door of possibility. I

1091
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: do think that there's also like an Orlando lesbian who

1092
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: would wear it too.

1093
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: Like the nightmare is that your house is on fire.

1094
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: You're not wearing anything, and you're like, just grab a shirt.

1095
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: You're surrounded by firefighters and the neighbors, right.

1096
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: And they're all women and no one's helping you, and

1097
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: you burn alive. It's a good short film.

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00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: I love it. I can't wait to find an opportunity

1099
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: to wear this wonderful Okay, and now finally there's I'm

1100
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: touching the mask. It's getting my arm wet.

1101
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 3: Those masks were disgusting. I'm so sorry. I can't wait

1102
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: to see what happens to both of our faces burned

1103
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: beyond recognition or we trade faces face like the fly.

1104
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: It's a portal, all right.

1105
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: Now, this is.

1106
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 3: Just as I said. I just search Ridger, Wineger and Amazon.

1107
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 2: It's a book called Winnegar Reflections Tales from Wisconsin's north

1108
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: Woods by Weirdly someone that Bill.

1109
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 3: I think that wine Again must be the north Woods.

1110
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 3: I did highlight well inside I marked a really important passage.

1111
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: But let's hear about Bill Retherford.

1112
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's Bill Rutherford was born at Uper lives

1113
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee.

1114
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 3: But I don't know what that is. But it's not good.

1115
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't.

1116
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: I don't want topers. But still calls Winegar home. So

1117
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: Wineger's a city or a town or a lake. Here's

1118
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: what people are saying. Oh it's got good press.

1119
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, some people are saying.

1120
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: Janice Felts says, it has brought to my mind pleasant,

1121
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: humorous and melancholy memories we had we had put in

1122
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: the back of our mind. This brought them out too,

1123
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: triggering sharing times that we are for the most all,

1124
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: for the most part, all familiar with.

1125
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: Okay for the most part. And so they're admitting that

1126
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: it's not universal.

1127
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not it's not going to be a

1128
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: huge ship.

1129
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: Actually, you won't relate to this at all.

1130
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: And Steve Finnegan says, very cool. I love the way

1131
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: you tell stories.

1132
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Will you look up

1133
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Steve Finnigan? Wait, can I tell you something really cool? Yes, quickly,

1134
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: just saying, will you look up somebody? Have you ever

1135
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: watched International House Hunters before?

1136
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh? Of course.

1137
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: Okay. There was an episode with these people that I

1138
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: want to say had gone. They were this family that

1139
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: was moving to like Malaca or somewhere, and they were

1140
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: moving from like Sarasota, and the whole time I was like,

1141
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: something is up, Like this family is like on the lamb,

1142
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: the vibes are weird. Something's off. I like finally found

1143
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: his name like on Reddit or something. I googled this

1144
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: man and he was like Housted as like the University

1145
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 3: of Florida, something like women's I want to say it

1146
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 3: was basketball, but maybe it was football or so, I

1147
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: can't remember soccer. I think it was soccer, was women's soccer.

1148
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 3: And he a lot of them claimed that he had

1149
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: made them bleimic and that he was I know, but

1150
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: it was to go from watching international house centers being

1151
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 3: like something's up and then like going straight to this thing.

1152
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: And they severed him with pay, and clearly he had

1153
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: used the pay to find this house and put himself

1154
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 3: on TV. It's interesting that the family would go right

1155
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: onto TV from.

1156
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's truly just psychopath behavioral, just like

1157
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm getting.

1158
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 3: Away with the best life, low level, low level, best

1159
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: life behavior.

1160
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: Because I've often especially not just on regular house Hunters,

1161
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: because there are various other issues with those people, but

1162
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: on international you're always.

1163
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: Like something something, it's always tax people or like I

1164
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: couldn't ever find a husband.

1165
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like there's never just a like, oh we

1166
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 2: want to see the world. There's something driving them away.

1167
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: And for you to have actually found one of these

1168
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: people is.

1169
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: It was exciting incredible. It was huge.

1170
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 2: Okay, you highlighted part of this I did.

1171
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 3: This is a passage. I want you to take heart

1172
00:56:59,040 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 3: to heart.

1173
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 2: It says, we hope that some should read this whole.

1174
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: Paragraph, the whole thing, all connected as one.

1175
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: We hope that someday Weininger may die. That is a

1176
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 2: universal message. Most people have that on front of mind.

1177
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: I thought, I'm listening to this podcast. The moment they

1178
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: click play, that comes. That's immediate where they're thinking, we

1179
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: get to wow, this is a beautiful book. I can't

1180
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: wait to find out. I should visit Weininger. I wonder.

1181
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'd help post or like a I'm there's

1182
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 3: an honorary mayor or something. It would help them get

1183
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: a blue check if you. Wininger should host me at

1184
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: some point, I should come to a little parade. We've

1185
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: got chapters such as Hot Pursuit. I wonder what happens

1186
00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 3: there A visit from the Bear's Death Knell a small town.

1187
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: There's no good news coming out of Wine. It's a

1188
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: curse name.

1189
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: This is a bad place.

1190
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 3: It is crazy. Is it German?

1191
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: Wininger is? I think it's Dutch. I think it's like

1192
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: something about vineyards or something.

1193
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: Most Mormons.

1194
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: Mormons are there's a you know, it's I would say

1195
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: white mutt, but like Scandinavian, English, Scottish.

1196
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 3: So interesting because there's the look like the Mormon look.

1197
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: I think that ever have been from the same like

1198
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: gene Pool.

1199
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: Right, I think it's largely like Northern Europe Scandinavia, yeah,

1200
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: and British and then right because there are a lot

1201
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: of Anderson's Sorenson's like these kind of very right scandy names,

1202
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: scandy words.

1203
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: I hope it's not terrible. It's a derogatory word about

1204
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: the most oppressed people.

1205
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: You don't know what they're.

1206
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: Actually, those people, Northern European people, you're.

1207
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: Not into them.

1208
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: They get these tests, these census tests where they say

1209
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: they're the happiest so fappiest countries in the world, and

1210
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: they're the most depressed alcoholics and the well sweeten's different.

1211
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 3: They have a little sense of humor, but like they

1212
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: are the most joyless, finish people, and they say they're

1213
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: the happiest and they do carry the sun goes down

1214
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: at noon and they do karaoke and their alcoholics do

1215
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: karaoke for twelve hours after the sun goes down. And

1216
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: they say they're the most happy people in the world,

1217
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: and we believe them. What's driving and we go, well,

1218
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: there's something wrong with us. Every time I said.

1219
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: Those is so fucked truly. Any It's like a yearly headline. Yeah,

1220
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: and it make sure you just have this existential thing

1221
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: of like, well, there's no way I can get to

1222
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: that life. I'm trapped in this body in this country.

1223
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. And meanwhile people are living it up.

1224
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 2: They're having the time of their lives, and I can't

1225
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: really prove anything.

1226
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 3: I went to Finland in some like film school exchange

1227
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: situation that was like a week of like having to

1228
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: meet people, and I was like really trying to be personable.

1229
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: The whole time, I was consistently shut down socially in

1230
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: every every way you can shut someone down. At the

1231
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: end of they were like, you know, when we first

1232
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 3: met to you, we thought, you know, this here is

1233
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: so forward and we're not for it. And I was like, yeah,

1234
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: how do you think I felt? I was like I

1235
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: was working overtime to make social situations work, and I'm

1236
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 3: worse for yourself. Oh, that's why I read the codependency book.

1237
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: Now you can finally go back to fit yeah. Well,

1238
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 2: I'm so excited about Wineger. I've got my T shirt.

1239
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: I've got I mean, you've really You've changed everything for me.

1240
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm about to start my second chapter. I think we

1241
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: should play a game. We can play a game called

1242
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: Gift or a curse. But I need a number between

1243
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: one and ten from you.

1244
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: Ten, Okay, I have to.

1245
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: I have to do some like calculating to get our

1246
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: game pieces. So right now you can recommend, promote, do

1247
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

1248
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh god, I mean you can just follow me in

1249
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: Instagram where nothing happens anymore. I met ge Charles Rogers.

1250
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: That's the English spelling of Rogers, r og no, that's

1251
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: the French. The French Norman spelling is r O g

1252
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 3: r O d g is the English Anglo spelling. Fuck uh.

1253
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: And I'm going to make another TV show. I hope.

1254
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: To god, I don't know, it doesn't matter.

1255
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: That's exciting.

1256
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: I hope. I hope it all happens.

1257
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: You never know, I mean, everything's insane. People want you

1258
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: to make another TV show.

1259
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: I hope so, I mean, I hope they do. I

1260
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: don't know anymore. Of the world's scary, the.

1261
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 2: World's very odd, But I feel like eventually people. Maybe

1262
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: one a very late adopter to this podcast. Yeah, and

1263
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: this will be a commercial for your show.

1264
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: That would be nice. It's perfect.

1265
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm

1266
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: gonna name three things. You're gonna tell me if they're

1267
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell

1268
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: you if you're right or wrong because there are correct answers.

1269
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to be right. I think I know you.

1270
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see, we shall see.

1271
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

1272
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: This first one is from our make a tier of

1273
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: suggestions from a listener named Christina. Gift or a curse.

1274
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: Cashiers who ask you what you're doing tonight.

1275
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: Wow, I think the obvious answer is curse, but I'm

1276
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: gonna say gift because it's an opportunity to lie, and

1277
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 3: it's an opportunity to find out what comes out of

1278
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: you in situations like that, and it's a good check

1279
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: in for your comfort level with strangers and your relationship

1280
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: to going out correct. I knew it, And a beautiful

1281
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: logic that's so fantastic. First of all, we love our cashiers, Yeah,

1282
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: we do. I love a visit with my cash here. Yeah.

1283
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: And again, like nothing anytime anyone asks me, what are

1284
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: you doing tonight? My mind goes blank? Right, so why

1285
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: not just say whatever you want? You're never going to

1286
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: see this person again.

1287
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: And it's very tricky because if you are doing something cool,

1288
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 3: then you don't want to be a.

1289
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: Right But then if you're doing nothing, you want to

1290
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: be the loser that the cashier makes the cashier sad.

1291
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: And you have to keep it simple because people can't

1292
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: handle more than a few words. Yeah, you've got a

1293
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 3: probably six word plan, but then you get to see

1294
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 3: what how they react you.

1295
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: The person behind you is wondering what's going on?

1296
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there.

1297
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: Before you even start talking. No, I think it's wonderful.

1298
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: I think that cashiers should be prying into everyone's speak. Cashier,

1299
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: who could ask for more? Who could ask for more?

1300
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: A feeling. I I rarely feel closer to someone than

1301
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: when a cashier is dealing with a difficult customer. Le

1302
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: we make icons totally, Oh, the intimacy.

1303
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 3: Totally and yeah, and the superiority then and then the

1304
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: over correcting of being esternized.

1305
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, your time to shine and then you fumble.

1306
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: Using it's my role to restore their their belief in humanity.

1307
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: Okay, you've gotten one correct so far. We'll see what

1308
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: happens next. Gift her curses from a listener named Ian

1309
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: gift to a curse when someone knows something and asks

1310
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: you to guess.

1311
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: When someone knows something and asks you to yes, I

1312
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 3: think curse. Honestly, Oh gosh, no, oh god. It could

1313
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 3: go either way. I think that I'm gonna say. I'm

1314
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: gonna say gift because it is an opportunity to let

1315
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 3: someone else have the power and to work through what

1316
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 3: that does to your own interiority.

1317
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to say it, you're wrong because

1318
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: that was a real look at this, and you did

1319
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: give us some thought.

1320
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: Because it's just annoying.

1321
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: I have to just be as straightforward with this as possible.

1322
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: What could be more irritating? Right, And every time I

1323
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: will just I cut to the chase. I don't want

1324
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: to guess. I just say I don't want to guess.

1325
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 2: And if the person continues to push me to guess,

1326
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: now the tension is through the roof and I'm going

1327
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: to be wrong, and then what good? What good comes

1328
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: from this? Right?

1329
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 3: It's usually good news. I don't think with bad news,

1330
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 3: people are.

1331
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: Like, guess, it's so your daughter's the hospital.

1332
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: It's like, no, no, the cleaner didn't come.

1333
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: Okay, well you got that one wrong. So your plans

1334
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,479
Speaker 2: have been really ruined here, but here's one more chance.

1335
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: You're an enemy.

1336
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: This is from a listener named Sonny Gift to a

1337
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 2: curse cars with engines that shut down stop lights and

1338
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: then start up again when you hit the gas.

1339
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: Curse why it's not worth it? Everything. The idea that,

1340
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: like the consumer is responsible for saving the planet is

1341
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: a part of the matrix of whys that we're in

1342
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 3: right now. Like, it is absolutely up to the corporations,

1343
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: and like these inconveniences that we embrace in the name

1344
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: of like being a responsible consumer are delusional.

1345
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: You are correct, Okay, this is the I absolutely hate

1346
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: this device. First of all, nobody likes that feeling turn off.

1347
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: And then you're sitting at the light, you're freaking out,

1348
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: you're panicking, you're wondering. I get used to it. And

1349
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: again it's like, especially because it happens with gas cars,

1350
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm already driving the gas car. What could

1351
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: this possibly be doing?

1352
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: Any feature that prevents you from getting out of an

1353
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: emergency instantly, Like my car if I open the door

1354
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: while it's driving, it throws itself in park way.

1355
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: More danger.

1356
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: What is attacking me? I go through the windshield.

1357
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I have like mine. When I pull

1358
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: out when there's there's traffic coming like half a mile away,

1359
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: and I try to pull out, it stops.

1360
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it just puts me like it elevates

1361
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 3: my blood pressure, right, and you know you're not desert door.

1362
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. None of that stuff really seems to be actually safe.

1363
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1364
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: I can't believe this about yours though. This is going

1365
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: to lead to your death.

1366
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: Something is I've got a few, I've got a few players.

1367
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's absolutely a curse. I think that. I

1368
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: can't imagine there's a single person on board with that.

1369
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's one person who's just like this future.

1370
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: Let me tell you it's changed everything. What has it changed?

1371
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 3: Because you want it to take little naps?

1372
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: My car is a pit. What you got to out

1373
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: of three not what you want.

1374
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: I really came in trying to win.

1375
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: It feels like this is something at the end of

1376
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: the day, on Alisha, you have your gift or a curse?

1377
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 3: I do what is it?

1378
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 4: Here we go when a restaurant manager comes to the

1379
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 4: table to check in to see how your meal was.

1380
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: I it could go either way. I'm going to say

1381
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: curse because I guarantee it's when I'm in the middle.

1382
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: I'm almost to the punchline of my story, and that

1383
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 3: is undoubtedly when I'm interrupted time and time again in

1384
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 3: my life, and it is something God is trying to

1385
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: tell me. But also manager. I like it when the owner,

1386
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: but I don't like on the manager interesting. The owner

1387
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: is like, that's cool, and then the manager it's like

1388
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: I said, we're fine to everyone else.

1389
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to I also will say curse. I feel

1390
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: like I see right through it. This is just kind

1391
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: of some little thing for them to they're waiting for

1392
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: you to read out a waiter or something. They're trying

1393
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: to because no one's going to be outright mean or

1394
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: complain to the manager's face. And also, if I want

1395
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: to talk to the manager, you'll hear me screaming at

1396
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 2: an employee, I want to talk to your manager.

1397
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: So you think that they're coming around being like, so

1398
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: you sure you sure? Betsy's a good Yeah, exactly. So

1399
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 3: I think it's a curse.

1400
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: I used to say gift.

1401
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 4: I used to say gift because it made me feel

1402
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 4: a little special, but.

1403
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: Then you started getting better kinds of attention exactly. I

1404
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 3: read the codependency.

1405
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 4: But I recently went out to dinner with my father,

1406
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 4: like about two weeks ago, okay, no, sorry, went out

1407
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 4: to dinner and the manager was just like staring at

1408
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 4: our table for a while. Finally approached kind of men singly.

1409
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 4: According to my dad, I didn't this was all happening

1410
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 4: behind me, and he goes, Hi, there, how how did

1411
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 4: you discover us? First of all like an agenda? And

1412
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I saw, I saw TikTok about this place.

1413
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 3: I didn't seem Indiana Jones.

1414
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 4: And he said, well, what do you think of You know,

1415
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 4: we've been getting a lot of one star reviews lately,

1416
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 4: what do you think of that? Somebody gave me a

1417
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 4: one star review for the music, and somebody gave me

1418
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 4: a one star review for like having like this special

1419
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 4: kind of bread. And I suddenly just saw this man

1420
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 4: like unravel before my eyes, and he was just I

1421
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 4: was just like, you're just trying to see if I'm

1422
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 4: going to give you a bad YELP review, Please leave.

1423
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 3: I was you don't hate me? He's like, I was

1424
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 3: so ready going to give you a.

1425
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 4: One star review just for doing this like I was.

1426
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: I was a good.

1427
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 3: Exactly and now you are absolute curse.

1428
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 4: This is not It's about them and they're in securities

1429
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 4: as a as an employee, not about the actual experience

1430
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:04,919
Speaker 4: you're having.

1431
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: While we all walk away winners here except for managers

1432
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: managing expectations. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast.

1433
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: With Fingers.

1434
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: Fingers a spell. Will you help me answer a listener question?

1435
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: Of course people are writing into I said no gifts

1436
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. We have voice notes, but I

1437
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: feel like it's we should read some of these emails

1438
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: on occasion or these poor people they're pouring their souls

1439
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: out to me, and then you know, I can't turn

1440
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: my back on everyone. Yes, okay, this is Bridger and Guest.

1441
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: I live in a two story house with my husband

1442
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: and two dogs, and we live in a shoes off household.

1443
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: One dog relentlessly shreds while the shreds on the guitar.

1444
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 3: It's like cartoon notes.

1445
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: Sheds, while the other one has curly hair and constantly

1446
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: tracks in dirt and other sticks leaves into the house.

1447
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: This person hates their dogs. My husband and I naturally

1448
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: split most of the chores throughout our day today. But

1449
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 2: one thing that I can't seem to get is his

1450
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: assistance with sweeping slash vacuuming our house. When he wanted

1451
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: to get a rug in the living room against my

1452
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: protests due to the difficulty this would make for my

1453
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: regular sweeping. Are you following the sentence.

1454
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 3: He wanted to get a He wanted to get a

1455
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: rug to make this sweeping more difficulty. Is that what

1456
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 3: it was?

1457
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: Yes? And the writer is saying, because I now need

1458
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: to dust bust oh, I need to bust out the vacuum.

1459
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 2: He promised he would regularly vacuum the rug to prevent

1460
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: fur slash dirt build up. Okay, so he got the

1461
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: rug and the compromise was, please let me get the rug,

1462
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 2: all vacuum it.

1463
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

1464
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think I can count on one hand how

1465
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: many times he has vacuumed this rug. And he even

1466
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 2: wants to get more rugs for the hallway. Sounds like

1467
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: he's in that book.

1468
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: He's addicted to rugs because he is scared of the

1469
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: dogs slipping on the hard wood. Okay, this is a

1470
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: I mean, we are reading a book. Unfortunately, he doesn't

1471
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: understand the additional obstacles this presents in my sweeping quest.

1472
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 3: I have tried being both explicit and passive aggressive and

1473
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 3: trying to get his help in sweeping the floors, but

1474
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: with no success. How can I get my husband to

1475
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 3: help me clean the floors? Do I accumulate the dust

1476
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: slash fur that I regularly sweep up in a bin

1477
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: and dump it on his side of the bed?

1478
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: No?

1479
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 3: Do?

1480
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: I just suck it up and keep sweeping on my

1481
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: own help? And that's from Derek.

1482
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: I knew it was a man. I knew it was

1483
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: a gig guy, and that does affect my answer.

1484
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: So what does he do?

1485
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I think they say that

1486
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: if you so. Elizabeth Gilbert, who wrote You Pray Love,

1487
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 3: says that if you don't can't identify a passion in life,

1488
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: you should follow your curiosity. So I think that we

1489
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: need to step out of the rubric of rugs and

1490
01:12:54,760 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 3: dogs and pursue Well, what else is there? And what else? Yeah?

1491
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: What else could what could make me? What could give

1492
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:03,879
Speaker 3: me purpose?

1493
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: And other than hating my husband? I mean, I feel

1494
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: like they that's.

1495
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: Perhaps too cold, right? Do you think that people I

1496
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 3: like to be shook awake.

1497
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, I mean I always go to

1498
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: leave him, but I think I know if he had

1499
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: sent a picture, we would have been able to say, well,

1500
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: this is worth sticking around for and letting him just

1501
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 2: kind of neglect you curious. Uh, it'd be interesting if

1502
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: they have kids and they didn't.

1503
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: Did they not say with the dog the dogs?

1504
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: It seems like he's he's not happy with his life.

1505
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: He doesn't like the things these dogs are doing. He

1506
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 2: doesn't like rugs at all, he doesn't like the husband,

1507
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,959
Speaker 2: he doesn't like vacuuming.

1508
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 3: I think, I think, actually he enjoys this role of bitching,

1509
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: and I think he does love his life. He likes

1510
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,560
Speaker 3: to play to a podcast about this, so like he

1511
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: does enjoy like the veil of this podcast right now.

1512
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 3: He does enjoy like like being like Derek, like I

1513
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 3: guess he's Derek might be.

1514
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: This is one of the Derek Derek couples. Derek, I

1515
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: feel like if this went away, he'd be so bored,

1516
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 2: he'd have nothing to talk to his friends about at dinner. Yeah,

1517
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: this is keeping the marriage alive, right. The moment that

1518
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: Derek too starts sweeping or vacuuming. It's gonna flatten out,

1519
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: there's gonna be zero passion. Yeah, there are two dogs,

1520
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: so they can pretty much split up pretty evenly. There's

1521
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: not a big fight, and yeah, then it's over. Yeah,

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01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: so Derek just let it lie.

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01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's doing exactly what he likes to do.

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01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: And I think he's got his name.

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 3: I think he's he likes his nasty little game, and

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01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: I think this is his opportunity to have a little

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01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 3: spotlight on his little nasty game. And I think he's

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: gonna play it every day for the rest of his life.

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: And that's a okay.

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 2: And this is just gonna snowball into more and more

1531
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: risky behavior.

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 3: But we have to protect ourselves and we can't get

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01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 3: sucked into this. First and foremost, we have to distance

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: ourselves from this email and Derek card boundary, these toxic

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 3: these toxic rock obsessed guess men, Derek, don't write back

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01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: in Oh, Charles, we answered the question perfectly. My life

1537
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 3: is just the texture in my life now is wet,

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 3: absolutely soaked, just wet and slimy, and I'm going to

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01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 3: embrace it and be afraid of women. I'm happy to

1540
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: have led you there, Thank you for being, thank you

1541
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: for having listener. The podcast is over.

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: Hopefully you've you know, given some thought to something about

1543
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do with your day, or at least

1544
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: had some sugar so you don't just slump over and die.

1545
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: Move on, do what you need to do. I love you, goodbye,

1546
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our

1547
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: senior producer is on Alise Nelson, and our episodes are

1548
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: beautifully mixed by Ben Toliday. The theme song is by

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01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without

1550
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram.

1551
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: At I said no Gifts, that's where you're going to

1552
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 2: see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And

1553
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: don't you want to see the gifts? I invit?

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01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear.

1555
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: When you're a.

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01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: Guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And

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01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: I said, no guests, you're our presences, presents and I

1558
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: already had too much stuff, So how do you dare

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: to survey me? Became the thea