1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, and today I 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: have an incredible guest from the Seattle Seahawks, Nick m 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: and Moorrey. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: Me brother always. Man, it's my pleasure. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: Hey, you had a day the other day. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: You blocked the field goal, got you another SAG, six tackles, 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: got him your first book. I mean you was you 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: was just knocking them off the list the other day walking. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Through that game. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a pretty amazing game for myself. 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 4: But routinely though, it was just all a really part 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 4: of my process throughout the week is just focusing on 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: the details and just making sure I was just ready 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: to go. So it wasn't really nothing special that I 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: thought I did throughout the week. But his mas, I 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 4: was like super focused and just you know, we be 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 4: in December ball now, so you got to really focus 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: on the job at TAT. 20 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: So. 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: I love the rookie talking like of that. 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I love that December football is definitely different than the 23 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: National Football League. But coach Mike McDonald said, you had 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: a tremendous game and you're gonna continue to get better. 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: What's your relationship with him been like and how has 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: it grown throughout the year. 27 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: It's been It's been great, honestly since the start, you know, 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: when I first got here. OTAs or we won't ever. 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: Training camp has been great too, But our relationship has 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: been good. You know, it hasn't you know, it hasn't 31 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: been too too crazy because you're not a rook So 32 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: he doesn't want to like you know, I guess, but uh, 33 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 4: he's been a great coach. He's got a great staff 34 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: around him to help me develop. And you know, I 35 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 4: go to this office sometimes to talk. When I first 36 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: got here, I actually knock on his door just to walk 37 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: in there and chop it up with him. Uh, you know, 38 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: express ifo by myself. He tell me what he sees 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: by me. So got a great relationship with him. 40 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: I gotta know what did he say to y'all at halftime, 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: because it was six six at halftime, y'all came out 42 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: with something on your minds. I think there was like 43 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: three of the first four possessions, y'all got to intercept, 44 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: y'all got to turn over, and I mean then Shaheed's 45 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: kick return. It just seemed like the team just came 46 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: out with a different kind of energy. 47 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: What did he say? 48 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: You know, good old Mike. You know, he just gave us. 49 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: You know, I said he gave us a speech, but 50 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: really he just told us what he always always tells us, 51 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: and it's always the truth. You know, one thing about Mike, 52 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: he's gonna shoot it straight. And that's one thing I 53 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 4: appreciate it. I appreciate about him. He's gonna shoot it 54 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: straight and just tell us exactly what we need to 55 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 4: do and how to get the job done. So we 56 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: were in that halftime. I don't think nobody on the 57 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: offensive defense flinched. You know, a couple of dudes spoke 58 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: up about what we need to do to handle business. 59 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: But it wasn't nothing like like we felt threatened or anything. 60 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: But we just knew that we got back out there 61 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: in the second half, we gonna just uh take over 62 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 4: the game and control it from there. 63 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: So when when the first chance I got to talk 64 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: to you was in training camp, and you know you 65 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: obviously hadn't played, uh in the NFL, you hadn't played 66 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: any games yet. Uh, you started off a little banged up, 67 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: You got banged up. Week one. Had to wait a 68 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: little longer than I'm sure you wanted to to get involved. 69 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Was it Has the league been what you thought it was? 70 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Is it faster or is it slower? It just looks 71 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: like that Atlanta game, it looked like you were in 72 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: full command, you understood everything, you played fast, you trusted 73 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: your instincts, everything started clicking. Was that the first game 74 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: you felt like, hey, I got it, I got it down. 75 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: That's that's one thing about the league, man. 76 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: You never really like, you never really want to say 77 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: you got it down, because there's always so much stuff 78 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: you want to you know, get better at and stuff. 79 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: But I would say, like that was a game where 80 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: I did feel like I was just playing fast and 81 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: just you know, everything I've been working on throughout the 82 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: weeks was just the opportunities I had were just coming 83 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: and coming to life right there, as far as like 84 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 4: blitzing and uh, you know and uh just being around 85 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: the ball, making plays, even blocking the kick. You know, 86 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: I've been working at in practice too. So the league's 87 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: been it's a little bit of both. You know, it's 88 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: been what I thought, But it's also like, you know, 89 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: I always knew what I could do, trust some my 90 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: ability as a player, and I didn't really you know, 91 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: people ask me, have I had my welcome to the 92 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: league moment yet, and you know, I really haven't had 93 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: it yet, so you know, you know, grateful for that 94 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: to have been playing around a bunch of dogs on defense. 95 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: So when you got a great defense, it also can 96 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: help you out play fast, said your position to just 97 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: do that. 98 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: So tell me about them dogs, because y'all got a 99 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: lot of them on that defense. De Marcus Lawrence having 100 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: an incredible season, Leonard Williams, the big dogs. You just got, 101 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Julian Love Back, Witherspoon, of course, Ernest Jones, Rees Knight. 102 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I can go on and on everybody, Byron Murphy, 103 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: everybody has a piece in it. 104 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: Talk to me about that defense, though, I. 105 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: Mean I think I think we're the best in the league, honestly, 106 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: to keep it, you know, simple, I think we're the 107 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: best in the league. And even the names you just named, 108 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: like like we're loaded, you know, from the front end 109 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: to the back end, like literally loaded. 110 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: I think even our depth, our depth pieces. 111 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: Are valuable and they've helped us out at times where 112 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: dudes were down. But I think we got the best 113 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: defensive league, honestly, and you know, just to keep it simple, 114 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: like that's That's what it is, right. 115 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: No question, no question, I believe. I believe that too, 116 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: especially the depth that y'all have on that defensive line. 117 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: When when you guys were injured, when you were injured, 118 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: Witherspoon were injured, and d K came in there and 119 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: played well. A number of guys. Joe has continued to 120 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: play well in his role. Reek is playing incredible football 121 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: right now. Kobe, Kobe's always bald and always consistent, and 122 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: it just seems like no matter what happens, injuries happened 123 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL season, you guys have an answer forward 124 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald has an answer for it, and you 125 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: guys are arounded into shape. What has practice been like? 126 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, as you guys come together and as you 127 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: guys start to play better football. 128 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: It's it's it's you know, as my first year, I'm 129 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: not really sure how other places do it, but uh, 130 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: I just know Mike he expects a certain level of 131 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: practice from us, and uh, you know, I think obviously 132 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: that helps us stout the week and on Sundays too, 133 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: So he expects a certain level of practice for us, 134 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: and we you know, we go out there, we practice 135 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 4: hard from and he helps us out. 136 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: He looks out for us too. So I think we 137 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: practice great. 138 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: But we practiced physical, practice smart, keep everybody healthy, and 139 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: it's definitely definitely helping us more than other teams. 140 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: You And I'm not sure what other teams do. 141 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: Maybe they don't practice is hard, or they don't really 142 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: paths on on it. 143 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: It don't even it don't even really matter. It don't 144 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: even matter. Everybody's getting the chicken a little differently. But 145 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: what's doing, what's happening in Seattle is working for y'all. 146 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: Just talk to me about the difference between being with 147 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks and just college. You know, you, college 148 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: is a whole different program. You got the SEC. You 149 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: practice a little different Seattle definitely in South Carolina, Asper 150 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: dang Shore, So tell me that the differences. And honestly, 151 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: I want to go back to draft day when you 152 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: got that call, were you expecting to come to Seattle? 153 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Did they show a lot of interest, because that's that's 154 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: something I've always wondered. 155 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, going back to drift I started the draft, going 156 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 4: back to draft night, it was kind of you know, 157 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 4: I had one of two teams in my mind as 158 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: far as like where I could have went. I was 159 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: expected to go in the first round, but I was 160 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: thinking maybe between the range of thirteen to the end 161 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: of the first So, but the two teams I really 162 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: thought that were really gonna take me were either the 163 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: Bengals at seventeen or Seahawks at eighteen. And then that 164 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: didn't happen there. So after that I was really thinking, 165 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 4: like what teams could have gotten me. So I was 166 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: looking into the second round, and I was looking at 167 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: the draft who was in order, and I'm like, you know, 168 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: they got the Giants, the Browns. 169 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: Maybe, I'm like, see how Saint up here? 170 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: So I had after that, I really had no connection 171 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: with any other team picking in like the next five slots. 172 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: And then so when I got that draft call on 173 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: the second day, I had no idea who was really 174 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: on the phone, honestly. 175 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: So but I'm glad I came to Seattle. 176 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: But as far as the difference between Seattle and college, 177 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: I probably say the culture is probably like really the same, almost, 178 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: And I kind of say that is to say, like, 179 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: you know, in college you kind of go, yeah, coming 180 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: up with your boys all the way from freshman year, 181 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: sophomore year to junior year. 182 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: But the vibes are always high. 183 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: But here, as I was coming in to the league, people 184 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: were kind of telling me like the NFL locker room 185 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: is kind of different and it's kind of like weird, 186 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: and you know, dudes were like on their own business 187 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: and stuff. 188 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: But so I was kind of expecting something different. 189 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: But when I got here, like they kind of, you know, 190 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: seem like I don't really leave that college type of 191 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: atmosphere of like everybody's here as boys, and the locker 192 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: room is deep, like you know, offense talking to defense, defense, 193 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: joking around, like the coaches are joking around the defense 194 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: and means are like always a joy to go to. 195 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: Everybody laughing, cutting up, singing rap songs. Just the energy 196 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: is high. It's a it's a really real good culture here, 197 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: you know. So yeah, that that definitely got my mind, 198 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: uh like in the right direction. 199 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: Like it changed my mind for sure. 200 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: No question. That sounds that sounds similar to our locker room. 201 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You enjoy coming to work. 202 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: You work hard as you can, you you practice hard 203 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: as you can, but it's still fun, you know, and 204 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: it's still a game, and you you enjoy being around 205 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: your teammates and and and it shows on the field. 206 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: You guys are putting out a great product on the 207 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: field each and every week. But you got the next 208 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: The next couple of games are the ones that really 209 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: really validate. I mean the next month, the next two months, 210 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, because because you think, you think December football something, 211 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: wait till you get to January football. So we can 212 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: get real quick, easy out there. You win or you 213 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: go home. But but it just seems like you have 214 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: such a mature mindset right now. And I and I 215 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: know that's that's what Mike is doing a great job 216 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: of coaching. I think you should be defensive like Rookie 217 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: of the Year this year. And I'm gonna I'm gonna 218 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: start my campaign and campaign for you because you are 219 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: you are playing fantastball and you've played everything. You're you're 220 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: so versatile in this defense. How difficult has that been? 221 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: Because because I see you everywhere. I see you garden receivers, 222 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: I see you on the line, I see you in 223 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: the back deep, I see you in the slide, I 224 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: see you on the outside when you block the field goal. 225 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: That was such a smooth move. 226 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: And people don't understand how tough it is to time 227 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: that bang get this like do to reach through? 228 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,359 Speaker 2: I said, oh, this is more is playing the football. 229 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, everything's man, you know. First, you know, 230 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 4: I'm just super grateful gratitude and I'm super blessed man. 231 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: But that's just kind of like what I've always done 232 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 4: my whole life just uh just do everything. 233 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: You know. 234 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: I sometimes question myself like what you know, what what 235 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: what what cannot what can't I do? Or like what 236 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: is there that I can or can't do? But I 237 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: still really haven't figured out. I think I can do 238 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: everything on the field, but as far as just myself, 239 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: I think that's just how God blessed me to do everything. 240 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: And you know, growing up, I play I play cornerback 241 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: growing up, so you know I can go cover dudes, 242 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 4: and my body just developed into this uh super alien 243 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 4: uh you know type of. 244 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, being everywhere hasn't it hasn't really been 245 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: too much of a challenge. 246 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: But I will say, you know, like the learning curve 247 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: is like it's real, it's different, but you gotta be 248 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: up for it, you know. And I kind of carry 249 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: myself with a confidence that no matter what charge I 250 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: can do, I can do it. You know, I'm just 251 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: super confident in that in that aspect, but you got 252 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: to know where you can do the d line or 253 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: listen off the edge, the linebacker stuff, the dome, the nickel, 254 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,119 Speaker 4: the safety. 255 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: So it's it's it's a lot but. 256 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: It but it also takes a lot of mental fortitude. 257 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: So you you saying, you saying all this making it 258 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: sound like, oh, yeah, it's just easy, I just go 259 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: out there and play. 260 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: It's not easy. 261 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And how smart of a football player you have 262 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: to be to be able to to to really consume 263 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: that information go out there, understand protection, understand where the 264 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: old line is sliding. Sometimes, Hey, I got to understand 265 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: how this guy plays. 266 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: Then I got to. 267 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: Back up and understand how this receiver plays. Then I 268 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: gotta go over here and understand how this tight end plays. 269 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: And then I got to go back deep and understand 270 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: how to play a half a field, you know what 271 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean. Those are totally different games each phase. So 272 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: so I got a lot of respect for that. I 273 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: just want to give you your flowers because you trying 274 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: to you making the fans think this is just yeah, yeah, 275 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: it ain't that hard. 276 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. It's way harder than you making it. 277 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: Out appreciate that. Man. 278 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all love. It's all love. But I look forward. 279 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: This is gonna be your first playoff run and I 280 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you play and this defense play because. 281 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: It's no different. 282 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say it's no different because it's 283 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: a little different. But you guys are an incredible role team. 284 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: If you have to go on the road, you're you're 285 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: a great home team. You're a great overall team. And 286 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: Mike has you guys tuned in and locked in and 287 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: understanding that every play matters, and your mentality each and 288 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: every week has been that way, and you guys play 289 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: with that sense of urgency each and every week, and 290 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: that's really fun to see. And it looks like you're 291 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: having a ton of fun out there playing with your 292 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: teammates who's been your like vet on the team, your mentor. 293 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: It's tough. 294 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 4: It's really tough because it's a bunch of dudes that 295 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: like kind of like I chop it up with and 296 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: they kind of like take me under their wing a 297 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: little bit. But the dude I probably talk to the 298 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: most and like and by like the most every day 299 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: is probably like Kobe Bryant and I sit beside him and. 300 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: The meetings and stuff, and so he's just been ben 301 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: a veitter. I kind of been leaning on a little bit, 302 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: but you know. 303 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: I gotta I got, Like you know, in every every 304 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: on the defense, in every room, there's been dudes like 305 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: just been taking me in and it's been awesome. 306 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: So everybody's been awesome. 307 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Here. 308 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait these playoffs. The playoff football is just 309 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: it's a different kind of lock in because you understand 310 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: the sense of urgency. It's not like you think about it. 311 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, if you lose, you go home. That don't 312 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: really cross your mind. It didn't cross our mind. I 313 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: don't think it didn't cross my mind. I can't speak 314 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: for everything, but what you what you do understand is 315 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: like like everything matters, you know what I mean. There 316 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: ain't no there's no take a playoff. There's no Hey 317 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: I'm too tired. Ain't my shoulder hurt? Like I get 318 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: him next week? Like, hey, I my shoulder might be torn. 319 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: I got a torn labor And it was one NFC 320 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: Championship game. I tore my elbow, earl tours, shoulder, tourist, 321 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: rotator cup. It was guys dropping left and right, and 322 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: you just go back out there with your arms tied 323 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: up and you just say, hey this I mean, it 324 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: ain't no tomorrow, so it don't really matter. And so 325 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: not that you need my my little two cents, but 326 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun to watch because you guys 327 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: have a good enough team. And let's talk about the 328 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: offensive side. Jc And is having one of the best 329 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: seasons of all time. What does he look like in practice? 330 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: And did you see this coming? 331 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 332 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, you know, he wanted the ones for Shure. 333 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 4: He's been having a great season and in practice, he's 334 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: been killing in the practice. 335 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: You know, his routine has kind of been the same. 336 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: And I've been kind of like watching him from Afar 337 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: as far as like what he does, and he's kind 338 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: of like the same dude every day. 339 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: That's his routine and then he gets to work. 340 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: But during training camp, you know, this is my first 341 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: training camp, I don't know like how it is, like 342 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: if he was usually turned up in training camp. I'm 343 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 4: just I'm just observing at this point, but he was 344 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: having a great training camp. Like I'm not even gonna lie. 345 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: He was having a great training camp, the ball was 346 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: finding him. He was just the same way how it 347 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: looks on Sunday. It was kind of like how I 348 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: was looking at training camp, like, you know, making those 349 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: plays deep in the field, catching the balls in the 350 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: middle of the intermediate intermediate area of the field, and 351 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: just doing just doing everything. 352 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: So you got any questions for me? Because I can 353 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: ask you questions all day, and you know I don't 354 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: want to. I notice your your off time and you 355 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: got to get some rest. But I always appreciate you 356 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: coming in and if you got any questions for me, 357 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm happy to answer him. That's what this podcast is about. 358 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: As conversational. We can go back and forth and I'm 359 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: happy to answer anything you got. 360 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: I do. I do got some questions, man, as far 361 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: as y'all, as far as y'all's defense and the team 362 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: when y'all was making y'all run in the playoffs those years, 363 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: what was youall mindset like as far as like the defense, Like, 364 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: was what was y'all saying it before every game or 365 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: you know those big games and stuff like was y'all 366 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: sticking to y'all's process or like what did you feel 367 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: dudes were like kind of like getting over easy and 368 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: trying to do too much or. 369 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Everybody understood you do your job. It didn't change in 370 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It didn't change in the preseason. It didn't 371 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: change in the regular season. It was always we had 372 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: the same circle, the same rock, the same speech. From 373 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: preseason Game one to the Super Bowl. We practiced the 374 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: same way. We were still doing one on ones as 375 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: a team receiver dB one on ones in the Super 376 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Bowl in New York like Wednesday one on ones, Thursday 377 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: red Zone one on ones like So nothing changed about 378 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: our process. Only thing you understood, and that's what made 379 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: it beautiful is because of how much trust you had 380 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: and the man next to you. And I know you 381 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: feel that because you see it on Sundays, because you 382 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: know they put it in the work. You know they 383 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: in those meetings, you know what they're doing. You have 384 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: so much love and respect and trust for those guys. 385 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: That's what we had. That's what we had. So when 386 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: we got in there, our routine was exactly the same. 387 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: Literally as a team, we listened to the same music 388 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: every game before we went out. Boosy Bankroll was gonna 389 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: be playing every single time, every single time, every single 390 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: game before we walked out that door for game day. 391 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Bank roll left the bank roll, big money. I like 392 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: it every single time. And then when the funk really 393 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: it goes down. Hey, now we're going. 394 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: I know you play that came through. You played that, 395 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: your little walkout song. I was follow that. I havest. 396 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: It lives on, It lives on. But that's that was 397 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: the team. So the team's routine sayed the same what 398 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: we said before the game. We all we got, we 399 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: all we need. Every single time we go out there 400 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: and you battling, it doesn't go why you wanted to it. 401 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: I think we're down in both NFC Championship games. I 402 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: think we were down double digits in both of them. 403 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: I think we're down ten to the Niners. We were 404 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: down sixteen to the Packers at halftime, like and we 405 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: felt like we were bowling. I mean, we playing well. 406 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: We picked them off on the first drive, like, but 407 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: it don't always go like that. It don't always go 408 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: how you want to. But when you're a great defense, 409 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: you don't. 410 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: You don't. 411 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: Just like you said at halftime of the Atlanta game, 412 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: you don't ever flinch, nobody ever bats an eye. Last 413 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: you trust the process. You understand that, Hey, we earned 414 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: the right to be here. We earned it. We are 415 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: who we say we are. So we're gonna play like 416 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: that and we're gonna make these boys bleat us. They 417 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: gonna have to they're gonna have to kill us to 418 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: walk off with a win on this field. And that's 419 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: how we went out there, and so it was hard 420 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: to beat. 421 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, otterp lot of spent for that out of respect. 422 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Appreciate that. What else you got? It's fun 423 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: answering questions. 424 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: I ain't got nothing to talk. I ain't got no 425 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: nothing to talk. 426 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: A Coach White text you. 427 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: Coach White did text me, yea, he shot to. 428 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: You always, always, always, he's so proud of you. He's 429 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: so proud of you, as he should be. Your family 430 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: is still in South Carolina. They still back where you're from. 431 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they they actually came deep to the game. There 432 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: was like like ten twelve deep out to the game, 433 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: washing me side to put on the show for them. 434 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, they back into South Carolina, good old South Carolina. 435 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: You know, nothing really going on over there, but I 436 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: love it. 437 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: So that's what turns up. I was wondering, what turns 438 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: you up? Like that you had the family coming out there. 439 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 440 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: I had my little nephew out there and my brothers 441 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: and stuff. So I was like, man, I you know 442 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: I got to the first time, like my whole family 443 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 4: really came, like really washed me play. My pops was 444 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: out there. So it's one of the game a show. 445 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, did a good job. 446 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: So you did a hell of a job, your gamer. 447 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking. 448 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yes, sir Man, Well, I appreciate you joining me. Man, 449 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: you're having a fantastic season. I think you're defensive Rookie 450 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: of the Year and I can't wait because we got 451 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: your on Thursday night in a couple of weeks, I 452 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: believe on the seventeenth or eighteenth or something like that, 453 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: so I get to go on national TV and give 454 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: you all the praise. So please keep giving me something 455 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: to praise, give me something to talk about that day. 456 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: Sir, I got you my dog, yeah, appeciated 457 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Yes, sir all love you have a great day.