WEBVTT - Jill Scott Interview

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<v Speaker 1>Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Yep, the world

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<v Speaker 1>was dangerous morning show the Breakfast Club. He turned it on.

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<v Speaker 1>Jill quietly like to talk to guests before the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like to wait until the interviewed you

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<v Speaker 1>at all and yeah, fake looking at my phone until

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<v Speaker 1>the interview started. But we got Jill Scott here. What's

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<v Speaker 1>up y'all, Julie from Philly, good to see you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to have Jill Scott here. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>say Charlotte Magne went to go see you perform in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised because we can't get him to go nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen you perform at least fifteen times because I

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<v Speaker 1>used to I told you before. We used to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sugar Water Festival all the time when it

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<v Speaker 1>was you and Erica Badou and Flower Tree and Queen Latifa. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen you perform countless about the times, but not

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<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn. Let me tell you something. I had no

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<v Speaker 1>choice too. It was one of those things. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, Joe Scott, is matter of fact you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to the concert in Jersey. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was busy. So it happened in Brooklyn's woman keV Holiday

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<v Speaker 1>made that happen for me, so we went that was monumental. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on the new album thank You. I like Cruising.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's my favorite song on there. I also

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<v Speaker 1>like Food's Gold and I like um Closure And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about closure for a second, Okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>I was having a conversation when one of my friends, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that song is really about like having sex with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody for the last time for closure. You really think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good idea, m I think it can work. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>listen any Portland storms where I'm where I am with it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it could work, it's worked. But do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible though, because it's like you do it that

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<v Speaker 1>one last time, you're like, man, I can't let this go.

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<v Speaker 1>And plus when you do it that last time, you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do it like the best you've ever done it,

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<v Speaker 1>so that he feels like, Okay, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe not for me. I've had that experience and

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<v Speaker 1>that last one was not the best one. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>too hard. But my feet were already on my way out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I knew this was it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wrap it's the last time, and making a conscious

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<v Speaker 1>decision and then actually saying all right, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>my body this one more time. But making that conscious

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<v Speaker 1>decision and the second gas or regret or anything. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the point of that? Though? Like why not just why

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<v Speaker 1>can't a phone conversation just the end? Sometimes phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>work with some people, Sometimes they don't, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like I said, any port in a storm,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to get away from something that's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily beneficial to you. If the conversation you had, that conversation, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna do this anymore. You know, it was great,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I went more for my life and

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<v Speaker 1>then here you come again or smelling like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden you change your mind

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<v Speaker 1>and next thing, you know, you're kind of right back

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<v Speaker 1>where you started. And then you got to go through

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing again. When somebody has that that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that thing, it's really challenging to to walk away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that same thing that you used to

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<v Speaker 1>love when you was in love and now you know

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be with them anymore, is the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing that would end up, irritating you. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was This is not about a love relationship. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about two people that are friends, homely love of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, and we have a great time. But

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get more and more, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>have a well balanced relationship, you know, a participant in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, not just somebody that comes in and makes

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<v Speaker 1>a good real quick and disappears. I'm talking about a partnership.

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<v Speaker 1>In order to have that, you gotta make way. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make room. And and that's my opinion. I really

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you got to you gotta clear some stuff out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that in order to let that in. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for the closure, because other than that, you

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<v Speaker 1>still got this other thing that can hold you back

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<v Speaker 1>from where you really want to go. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching the documentary on Central. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the Docmunity is like you perform a live woman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you seem like you're in a great space with love,

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<v Speaker 1>like you was talking about love and it's like your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes will water and I'm like, well, who is banging

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<v Speaker 1>jails back out? That got hurt feeling? Well, I can

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<v Speaker 1>say this, it's more than it's more than sex way

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<v Speaker 1>way way way more than that, And that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the goal, that's the that's the the game, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>end game. You know, more than just my physicality being

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<v Speaker 1>appeased or pleased or stimulated or titillated. It's more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the rest of it. To have a

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<v Speaker 1>partner that's on your team, that will hold up their

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<v Speaker 1>end plus yours if you need it. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. There's a difference, and you're willing to hold

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<v Speaker 1>up their end if they need it. Absolutely, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful giving take. No, you was talking like this

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<v Speaker 1>person that killed somebody for you before, like you like

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<v Speaker 1>you love this individual you was talking about. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch like that. I really don't recall talking

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<v Speaker 1>about anyone though. You was talking in general about love.

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<v Speaker 1>You was like, you know, and love when you find

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<v Speaker 1>that one you because that is a part of observation

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I'm a voyeur. I watch people like for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>I met I met a musician the other day. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved watching him talk to his wife. I love looking

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<v Speaker 1>at her when she when he wasn't looking right. I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching her look at him. I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm talking about, right, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just paying attention to what I see, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a beautiful resurrection of relationships, people that genuinely are

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<v Speaker 1>about that life for each other, and they have their

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with them, but it's their stuff, right, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? What kind of space? Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>in doing this album? Um? What kind of place was

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<v Speaker 1>I in? I was in a couple of places. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I hear different thing. Yeah. Well, the album is

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<v Speaker 1>like a journal, you know. So you if you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>kept a journal, I have since I was twelve. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you look through it, you've got sometimes you you're

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<v Speaker 1>every page, every day you're writing in your journal, and

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<v Speaker 1>then sometimes you're you miss months, right, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm strolling through the journal, looking through and I see

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<v Speaker 1>this part of myself, and I see this part of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of how the album really worked. Different

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<v Speaker 1>parts of your life, different pieces, and it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Like I said, I'm a voyeur. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of women. I listened to older women,

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to younger women. I listen and I listen

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<v Speaker 1>to men too. People talk to me for whatever reason

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<v Speaker 1>I let them, Oh, I think you'd make an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>life coach, thanks an amazing like psychiatrist type person you

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<v Speaker 1>would go to to tell your problems and then you

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<v Speaker 1>would give advice to Well, I play. That was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the plans before music. Yeah, or you would just

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<v Speaker 1>go psychology. I was about to really change the last

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<v Speaker 1>one minute and decided to teach English. Really, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>made you? What made you want to be a psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with? Well, I enjoyed listening, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that I could help, you know, if I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have a balanced perspective on stuff, that I might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to help somebody. That's interesting. I went to school

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<v Speaker 1>and I took psychology and it was too hard, and

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped that as the only class average job because

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<v Speaker 1>it was way harder than I thought it was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I ended up being an English major. Right

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<v Speaker 1>after that, I did that, I didn't go to college.

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<v Speaker 1>When I tried to go to college, psychology and I

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<v Speaker 1>bought the book, but I never went to class. I

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<v Speaker 1>just ended up reading the book. Those books. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>psychology book was like this thing. Yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this classes for me. Those books

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<v Speaker 1>are really expensive, which is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know you guys are, But I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up starting Blues Baby Foundation because I wanted to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for people's books. Right, Like I couldn't afford my books.

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<v Speaker 1>I could afford school. I could get to school. Was

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<v Speaker 1>I wearing the same clothes a couple of times a week? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm trying to second hand books like I

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<v Speaker 1>got the second hand so I could get right right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a lot. That was a lot. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>clean toilets now now, um, you said something very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in the Huffington Post I read. You said, being being

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<v Speaker 1>an artist you're talking about Bill Cobby. You said being

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<v Speaker 1>an artist and a black man that is beloved is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most dangerous positions that you can be in.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you elaborate on that. Well. I remember the day

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in New Jersey and I saw every

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<v Speaker 1>kid with an Allen iverson Jersey, on every kid everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought to myself, he's in trouble, right, He's

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. When you are looked past your skin and

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<v Speaker 1>at your talent, When you look past your skin and

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<v Speaker 1>at what you bring to something that people love, that

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<v Speaker 1>means You're beloved beyond the color of your skin or

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<v Speaker 1>your race and all of that. And it was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a month later that he was on the cover of

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily News in Philadelphia with his braids out, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was about maybe two shades darker on the cover,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he was It was like they had vilified him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that quick. Bringing a lot of light and

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the prospect of a human being simply being

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<v Speaker 1>a human being, coming from a black man is dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. Look at what happened to Michael Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>look at what happened to Kevin Clash. I'm talking about Elmo,

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<v Speaker 1>how he was so beloved by everyone. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to dismiss the fact that people that folks have done

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<v Speaker 1>some terrible foul things. With the understanding that men all

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<v Speaker 1>have proclivities, rich ones, smart ones, dumb ones, backwoods ones,

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<v Speaker 1>all men have proclivities. That just means something that's natural

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<v Speaker 1>to you, that you like, that's probably really bad. Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>So we forget our heroes are human, forget that they're human.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I see is at our heroes and and

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<v Speaker 1>please understand, I'm from North Philly, but Cosby is from

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<v Speaker 1>North Philly. That man was like a father to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He showed me everything about life that I did not

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<v Speaker 1>see in North Philadelphia, not just because I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>television shows, but I did watch them. I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>Cosby Show. I mean, I watched the Cosby Show. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched that Albert Different world made me want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to college. College. Ain't nobody around my way going into college.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate and respect that legacy. Still, that's a man. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a man. And I've always been about that with

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<v Speaker 1>fame and famous people, but I I felt the need

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<v Speaker 1>to remember the Kevin clashes and the Michael Jackson's and

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<v Speaker 1>how people were really trying to destroy that legacy. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the dude's name, Phil Spector. He killed a woman, tried

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<v Speaker 1>and convicted, but he's still in the Rock and roll

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. If I'm not mistaken, Elvis like them young,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not saying that this is right. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>that all men have proclivities, and I really feel that

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is done to some do to all, don't decimate

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<v Speaker 1>the legacy of the good. You're trying to tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to tell me they're regardless of how much

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<v Speaker 1>good I do in the world. If I do something bad,

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<v Speaker 1>just something terrible, everything else gets pushed away. You forget

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<v Speaker 1>and you think this is something that happens with black man.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look particular a Phil Specter who still

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<v Speaker 1>is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even

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<v Speaker 1>though he murdered someone and another Harrilson has had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with his um step daughter or whatever whatever. She was

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<v Speaker 1>adopted not white men can't jump my bad. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>had an adopted daughter and he ended up marrying her. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And what was it great Balls of Fire? Wasn't that movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Um Jim, who was it? Buddy Holly? I mean it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It has happened in Latin history. And now they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>with Bill Cosby, get all his TV shows up the air,

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<v Speaker 1>Spellming no longer one. I think that's why scholarship program

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<v Speaker 1>they took down his statue. I think that's why. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason I think that's why is because like what Jill

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<v Speaker 1>just said about a different world inspired her to want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to college, and my homegirl, jazz Fly, she

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<v Speaker 1>has just saying what she says, we have to learn

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<v Speaker 1>to separate the art from the artists. The art helped

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<v Speaker 1>and benefited a lot. The artists may be flawed, but

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<v Speaker 1>the art made you want to go to college. Wagner

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<v Speaker 1>a notorious racist, but incredible musician and composer. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the history and list of men with dirty, terrible things.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what, the more money you get, the more

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<v Speaker 1>easily and more apt you are to do the worst things,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've always been in you. There it is. If

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's helped you or or guided you or stopped you

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<v Speaker 1>from being the worst you could be, and they're lifting

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<v Speaker 1>you up and just you know, allowing you to do

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<v Speaker 1>the worst things, you're gonna do it. Probably, So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think should happen then? In that case, in

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<v Speaker 1>a Belle Cosby situation? Ah, what do I think should

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<v Speaker 1>happen to him? Yeah? Like what should happen? What should

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<v Speaker 1>the repercussions be? I mean a lot of these crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>alleged crimes, were committed so long ago it's passed statute

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<v Speaker 1>of limitation. I think the best thing for mister Cozle

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<v Speaker 1>to do right now is pass away because the slander

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<v Speaker 1>turned to simplathy. Just like that, they did the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing to Michael. They vilified Michael. Then when Michael passed.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the hero again, that's what they say, though

0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.560
<v Speaker 1>they say you either died a hero or a live

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<v Speaker 1>long enough to become a villain. I was told, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's true or not that the first

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<v Speaker 1>person to accuse Michael Jackson of their father committee suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. I don't know either. I

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<v Speaker 1>just heard that. I don't know if it's true or not.

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<v Speaker 1>All that's this is a show that's not based on facts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all I'm saying is that looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>big picture was the reason that I could not could

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<v Speaker 1>not make any real decisions other than love. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>your father, if it's your dad, and fifty, let's say sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say a hundred people say so something terrible about

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<v Speaker 1>your father, the one that's raised you, the one that's

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<v Speaker 1>been there, the one that took care of your skin, knees.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying this because I saw the man

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<v Speaker 1>on television. Bill Cosby has been good to me, officially

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<v Speaker 1>good to me. North Philly girl, doing well, reaching out,

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<v Speaker 1>how you're doing? You need anything? Let me give you

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<v Speaker 1>some advice, let me share something you know, a cappuccino

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<v Speaker 1>with you, no, but he had his daughter drive to

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<v Speaker 1>New York to get something from my throat and I

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<v Speaker 1>toured up. I drank it every day. It's it's hard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And plus he hasn't said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done. But even in the demosition, you did you

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<v Speaker 1>you came out and said you had to stop defriending

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<v Speaker 1>him though, because it doesn't look good. I mean, my

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<v Speaker 1>mind is present. My heart did not want to believe

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<v Speaker 1>anything negative about someone I love and admire and respect

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<v Speaker 1>so much, but my mind is still. President was like,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, there's no way around this. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>looks bad. It smells bad, it tastes bad. This this

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. You got a lot of backlash from social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is Jill Scott y'all trying to slay.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, people make mistakes. Sometimes we misspeak. We can

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<v Speaker 1>change our mind, we can change your view on something.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get more information. Are you sure? You can

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<v Speaker 1>get more information and more facts and be like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, maybe there's more to this than I originally knew.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens every day, right, it happens all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't you don't know something, and then you find

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<v Speaker 1>something out, and you find out some more. All I

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<v Speaker 1>know is that, um, I'm a human being and my

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<v Speaker 1>love ain't watery. H and just because it got hot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, It didn't just jump and

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<v Speaker 1>dissipate or evaporate. People ain'tn't understand it. You don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm a real I'm a person, and this man.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could explain how many people die in North Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when I was growing up, if I could explain

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<v Speaker 1>the differences between myself and I felt like so many

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<v Speaker 1>other people, I felt very alone, and I saw someone

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<v Speaker 1>just making strides knocking down doors, it was inspiring to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would hope that if the shoe was ever

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<v Speaker 1>on the other foot, that something was being said about

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<v Speaker 1>me that was terrible, horrible, vile and disgusting. I would

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<v Speaker 1>hope that somebody who's ever claimed to appreciate love and

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<v Speaker 1>respect me would at least be like, let wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait wait, I'm not jumping up anything. I'm a whole

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<v Speaker 1>tight a of Twitter followers, you know. I would hope

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<v Speaker 1>that I could be treated the way I would want

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<v Speaker 1>that I treat other people. How do you deal with

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<v Speaker 1>social media? Do you ever feel like you want to disconnect,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you know, when you just seeing music and

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<v Speaker 1>you hear you talk, I don't feel like you're a

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<v Speaker 1>social media present. But I see you going back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth sometimes with these trolls. Sometimes sometimes I sometimes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it baffles me because I was just saying this out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't see how somebody cannot like

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<v Speaker 1>Jail Scott, I just don't get it. Like amazing singer,

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<v Speaker 1>great songs, fifteen years in the game, always minding your business,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not. It's not like you be in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of Typically I try, I try. If somebody message your man,

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<v Speaker 1>Y'll walk over there and snap. I mean, you are

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<v Speaker 1>what women we go through the same things you go through.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think we live in the era

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<v Speaker 1>of you getting back what you give out no more.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't believe I get it back. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it back. I get it back. I get it back.

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<v Speaker 1>When somebody yells from across the street or somebody behind

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<v Speaker 1>me is like, appreciate you, thanks to because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>stopping my life, you know what I mean. Fanaticism is

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<v Speaker 1>different from respect. Fanaticism goes hard and it's it's what

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<v Speaker 1>they need, not not what will make this a real moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, ah, you know, And I experience that occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>more than more than I want to. But then I

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<v Speaker 1>have these moments where somebody is telling me what this

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<v Speaker 1>song did or how it affected something in their lives.

0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I gave birth to this song, I made my child

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<v Speaker 1>to this song. When my father died, we played this song.

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<v Speaker 1>He loved this. And I have those kind of moments

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm great, I'm so grateful to have any impact

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<v Speaker 1>on someone's life. I'm like, Wow, I get to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's in music. It's supposed to be for I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, and I appreciate those moments. Why did

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<v Speaker 1>you tight of this album? Woman? I've been waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>get here for a long time as a as a female,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting to get to this point where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grown. I'm going to say what I feel. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say what I believe. I'm going to use my

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom um that I've had enough life experiences that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, I could, you know, really impact somebody younger

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<v Speaker 1>than me, or maybe somebody at the same age. I

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<v Speaker 1>associate myself with elder women because they've got great stories,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got great advice. They call me on my stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they call me, oh boy, Not that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about real life. Like what what what I got

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<v Speaker 1>from my elder sister about the Bill Cosby situation, She said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with you, but you have the right

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<v Speaker 1>to feel the way you do. Now, what the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world didn't know is, at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>my father has dementia. So I'm losing my dad right

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm losing my dad at the same time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about like I don't I'm not looking for

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<v Speaker 1>anybody feel sorry for me. I'm just saying I am

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<v Speaker 1>a person. There's stuff that happens in the course of

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<v Speaker 1>a life that somebody else doesn't understand, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. What about relationships? Do you have elder

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<v Speaker 1>women that call you out on things that you do

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships that you need to do differently. Absolutely, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>don't stop me. I'm like, well, this is what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to do. I don't do that quick. I used to.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to you should never fall in love. When

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<v Speaker 1>you fall, you get hurt. You're supposed to grow in

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<v Speaker 1>love with people. I agree. I agree. It takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes time, but you kind of. My grandmother told

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<v Speaker 1>me that the man is the stem and the woman

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<v Speaker 1>is the flower, and he must always be looking up

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<v Speaker 1>at her, and the stem gets stuck in the flower

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<v Speaker 1>too exactly. Hey, yeah, yeah, you feel me. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>the root and she's the blossom. From that. From that

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<v Speaker 1>and I she always told me that the men know

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<v Speaker 1>before we do. You guys know, at some point, tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>did you look at your wife and say that's my wife? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Apparently that's why I know exactly when that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>was shot at me too. When did he tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>He was laying it here on the floor, almost dead

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<v Speaker 1>from de hijason and exhaustion, running around doing whatever he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing and calling me job. He goes like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get my girl back. I'm getting married, so

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<v Speaker 1>I've done. I remember that bottom growls that was in

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<v Speaker 1>the collub drinking your bottles. They don't care about you,

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>But when you was, when you was laying on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't even care, We didn't care. We were

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<v Speaker 1>you coming to work tomorrow way to keep it real, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how he true. You know, those men know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just know we know who the one is now

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<v Speaker 1>even if we and it's your job to convince us

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that absolutely convince convince me that you're different, that you're different,

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<v Speaker 1>and that this is sincere and that you mean what

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<v Speaker 1>you say. And that's a part of the beautiful you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Oh that I love that part. Convince me,

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<v Speaker 1>show up. It never stops, though, because for some reason,

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>women are never really truly convinced. And I guess that

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<v Speaker 1>keeps us on our toes because you'll be taking like

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<v Speaker 1>two steps forward and one step backward. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of times you'll do like some great

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and then all of a sudden you do something

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<v Speaker 1>that's a red flag. Men. You heard just say that

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<v Speaker 1>we're men? Yeah, and then you know what guys have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Well, I'm a working progress. That's the guy's

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm a work in progress. Done stamp on me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on a working progress. We all are, but where we

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>all make decisions we can't make and try our best

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<v Speaker 1>to stick by them. Like I'm like you said, your

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<v Speaker 1>name is albums a woman. I'm still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out why, at this point in your life you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a woman because you've been married, you've got a child,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, why now? And I'm holding myself to another

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<v Speaker 1>level of accountability. I think I used to blame whoever

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<v Speaker 1>it was that hurt my feelings, like they were wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And now I hold myself accountable a r.

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>You chose that person, you accepted his you accepted it,

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<v Speaker 1>you went forward, You bit into the apple, you you

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<v Speaker 1>bought the wooden nickel. You know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 1>did that. The accountability is a big position and being

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<v Speaker 1>a woman and being an adult, um, not just being

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<v Speaker 1>an adult, but officially owning your womanhood because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times we have these fantasies as girls or how

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be and who he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>and if he hurts my feelings and he hurt feelings,

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<v Speaker 1>well men have feelings too, they do and and it

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<v Speaker 1>takes two to tango. So are you in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>right now? SIPs coffee, sip cappuccino. Sent about Bill Colony.

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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting what you said though, because you said you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking accountability for you, so you can't be a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>like like, a marriage don't make you a woman, A

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>child will make you a woman? Has to be something

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<v Speaker 1>within you. Yes, yes, and that takes time. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to earn your stripes. You know, you gotta get down

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, have a heartbreak. Look at yourself, really

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>look at yourself, the choices that your mother made. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you end up here? Why did you get here

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<v Speaker 1>and then start making some changes? Right? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think has contributed to your growth the most in your life?

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<v Speaker 1>If you could pinpoint one thing, you said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what made me grow. My son. I knew at having

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a child that'll do it. My son, Yeah, because he

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>sees me. It's not like I confront with him, like

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>he sees me like everything's all right, baby. He's like,

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I just saw you crying. He told me not too

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>long ago, he told me that women have to tough up.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I was telling him I was afraid. I was like,

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm scared, and he was just like, mommy, women just

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>have to tough up. I don't know if it's that easy.

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just having this conversation with somebody else said

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>about how women are so vulnerable, and you know, it's

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the same thing because I have a daughter. So you

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.479
<v Speaker 1>start to see different things. Women have different things they

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with, especially a black woman. They got

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to deal with racism and feminism, which is that's kind

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of hard. He kind of leaves you open all the time.

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>It can Well, the thing is about being open, is

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to for me anyway, I believe that you

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>have to make the decision on how much you open

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and where you do, you know, giving a little bit

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>at a time, giving a little bit. If you're in

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, why should why should he see everything? What

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>happened I'll say for me anyway, what happened for me

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is the kind of relationship that I had with the

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>last dude. I'm trying to have with the next dude

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>because that's the kind of relationship I like. Right Well,

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole different person with a whole different you know,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to date the same person in different skin,

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, or you are dating the same person in

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>different skin, So you end up missing out on what

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you really need because you're looking at what you want.

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Women look at what they need more than what they want. Necessity.

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Am I choosing a fabulous pair of shoes? Or am

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I choosing a healthy meal? Am I choosing this house

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that I can't afford? Or am I choosing to live

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>within my life, in my budget, within my budget, within

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>my circumstance. So I ain't got to worry. It's it's

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it's about making decisions and I'm not saying you got

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to stick by them, but you have to look at

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the bigger picture than what you want right now. Because

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>that's what girls do their children and in a sense,

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, that's what kids do. Kids

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>get what they want. They don't think about I need

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>to eat vegetables because you know I need to, you know,

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>have a proper movement, nothing about stuff like that. Younger girls,

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know, yeah, I mean that's what that's

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>where kids are with it. And a lot of women,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>or I'll say a lot of grown girls. Grown girls,

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, they make their their decisions on their life

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>based on what they want, not what you need. Man,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>do you think women know how much power they have?

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I know this is the thought that now. I

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like if women came together and created an organization,

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they'd be more powerful than the ADF

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think glad like women can shut you down. Yeah.

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>We make decisions about what we're going to accept in

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>what we want, able to change a whole lot of

0:28:56.080 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>things in this society, a whole lot of change. If

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>we decided that we don't like guys that show their

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>underwear in the street, I'm gonna give you about a

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>good month. Nobody's gonna be showing their underwear. Nobody's gonna

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>be showing the I'm telling you. We we make a

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>decision and say that we need someone that reads a

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>book that I can have a conversation with. We need

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that it's a requirement before I even let you touch it.

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Things are gonna change. I do feel like women set

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the tone in relationships in life. In life, God's only

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>doing what girls, except we dress a certain that's more

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.959
<v Speaker 1>power than me. No. I don't know who's gonna tell

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>them that though, But that's I mean, that's what happens

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>with girls. I mean, being a girl is an awesome, fun, crazy, wild,

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>beautiful experience except for when we got the money about it.

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>But being a woman there's something so fulfilling, and so

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like somebody turned the light on and

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you can just see, like, oh, that's where I've been

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>bugging all of this time. You know, I've been this dude.

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Like for instance, there's a song on the album called

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>The Lighthouse. It's called Lighthouse, And initially she's saying that, um,

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm here for you, you know, for whatever.

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm your rock, and it sounds like to me, it

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>sounds like, you know, they make love. That's what it

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds like musically it does. But then afterwards she has

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a moment where she's saying, I'm sitting here contemplating if

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>if we should even be you know, I've got I

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>have a man that loves me for me. He do

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>anything easily for his heart knows no boundaries. But he

0:30:55.000 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>needs he needs sometimes to right with a different pen

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>on different paper. He needs to cheat every now and listen,

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>that thing right there preaching some thoughtful I'm not saying.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that he needs.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Not every man needs to to to be a philanderer.

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Not every man has to have a whole bunch of women,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>women to feel solid in whom they are and who

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>they are, or uh, just because they like it, you

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Not every man needs that. But

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>if you have one of those, can you deal with that?

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's your decision. That is your decision, and once

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you make it, make it. It shouldn't be your decision.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>If the man's doing what he's supposed to do, And

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>by that I mean not getting caught cheating. It ain't

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>get cheating. In this case, she knows that he needs

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to do that right And I don't I personally, as

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a woman, I don't want to live in a relationship

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>where you got secrets that you have this other life

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not privy to. If you have another life,

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>go go to that other life. Because I'm trying to

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>be your ace, you'd be surprised. But if you tell

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a woman you want and need from a relationship that

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>they might really be okay with it, rather than if

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you do it without saying anything and then she finds

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>out and now you have a secret for me. If

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody has information, it is true, it is true, but

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that's it. But also I believe that that's a difference

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>between dealing with a woman and a girl. A girl,

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know for the time being.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>For the time being, a woman might be all for

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it too. I'm not. I'm listening. Just just to be

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>clear with you, I'm not judgmental. I'm not. What I

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>do is I make observations about people, life and things.

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>That's my job. I'm a journalist that happens to sing

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the reports. That's what I do. If you're honest about

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>what you need, you just might get it. You just

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>might get it and be happy. Now, don't go home

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and jump off the like Nope, I'm not gonna do it. Well,

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean to believe me, I'm just gotten. I'm definitely

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in a position to get exactly what it is that

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I want. And that's what it's got to be, not want,

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>forgive me, forgive me. I've had what I want to need,

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>what I need, what I needed. I don't know about everybody.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.239
<v Speaker 1>This just got need. I need a partner. I need

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody that can understand what it is that my life is.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>That UM can check me and not in a disrespectful

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>way or woman bow down kind of way, but yo,

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you need to show for a minute for real, and

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>then the mutual respect that says to me, you have

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing in you that wants harm for me, nothing you

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>love me. Let me sit down for a men and

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>trust and have faith in that. That's what I need.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I need that kind of relationship. I need somebody who

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 1>likes to go to lows. You know what I'm saying,

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like I like to fix stuff around my house, participate,

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and what I'm saying, I need someone who's gonna show

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>up to the crib with with some paper towels, you

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, some toilet paper, Like you're gonna

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.959
<v Speaker 1>be here, right, you know you're not gonna use paper

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>towels you. I'm just no, no, no, no, no, no

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>no no no. I just I I need I need

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>my ace, you know what I mean, someone that really

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>understands and enjoys and loves the things that I love

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>and wants to support the things that I love, and

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>has things that I love about them that they want

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>me to support them in. And I enjoy it. And

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it sounds so simple. It's so simple. It's so simple.

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>It's it's really not rocket science. We put all this

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>other stuff on it. Oh he gotta have um, he

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta have a sixth pack in a Bugatti. He gotta

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>have this, that, that, that, that, and that not all

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that at the end of the day,

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it looks nice, but that whip can be crashed, that

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>house can be burnt. You know, those those abs I

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.959
<v Speaker 1>mean letting me too much or not work out or whatever.

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>They dissipay, they disappear, and what do you have? All

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of your wants are checked, they're gone, and now you

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>got this guy with none of the stuff that you wanted.

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>That's not that lows with me. That's not bringing over.

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Note to No, that's not participating in life. I need

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you to participate in life. We want to live right right.

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>That means that maybe you cook tonight, maybe maybe we

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>have a chef, Maybe maybe maybe I cook, Maybe you

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>mock the floor. I'm just saying, in order for things

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to stay, it's some modicum of normality which I believe in.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get too fancy that I forget

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>that I'm Joyce's daughter and Bill's child. I don't want

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to forget that. I don't want to forget that. I

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:36.919
<v Speaker 1>can tell you grew up around a lot of loving

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>relationships like you saw a lot of healthy relationship and

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I love seeing it. I love seeing it. I don't

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>know how it is that I'm gonna tell you what

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>happened as a girl, I forgot what was important. I'm

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be adored. You're supposed to be adored. Your

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>wife is supposed to be adored like the flower. Get it.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>That's that's how you know when you are when you

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>are loved and appreciated for not for having your weave

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.760
<v Speaker 1>tight today and they might not be, or your nails

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>done or or you know, the pooch might be sitting

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>out today or whatever the case is. Like, have someone

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that appreciates who you are, regardless. That means it's past

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>being male or female. It's being it's love. It's way

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>past that. I think we put a lot of for

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>lack of a better if we put a lot of

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>ball on things that really matter. Right. So that's you know,

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if I sound like I'm preaching you, that's

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>really not my not I'm just hanging out with these

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>older chicks. So I has to do with the album Women,

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>And you wanted to know why the album is called Women,

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and these are all the reasons. Thank you, Thank you.

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I was a long way around. But you know, when

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you're getting talk show man, I'm not you need to sell.

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>You gotta give it like this with just got it

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to the masses. For everybody that's not listening to your music,

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>which you should be, but for some people don't need

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear your your your wisdom. I feel like you're

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>full of knowledge was and you got a nice warm

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I think through your music and your performances that is

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like my talk show for a while. You need to talk.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>You could be the new over for you, and you

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:31.919
<v Speaker 1>got It's like when you talk, it's like I feel

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna burt me and then let me lay

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 1>on your bullsom you know what I mean. Like it's

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>just warm. Maybe I don't know. I don't know. There's

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>much to do, There's a lot to do. I'm I'm

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>really excited about about my future. I'm really excited about that.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>So just in case something happens and somebody tells you

0:38:56.200 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that I killed myself, fuck, no, no, no, on everything

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, on everything, everything ever good, that ever

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>happened in my life, that that is something that I

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>would not do. Feel me, anybody hearing me out there? Yes,

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, not just saying. I'm just saying just in

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>case somebody says that I did that, I'm saying right

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>here that definitely not happened. I'm willing to go through

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the fire. Do you have those concerns now? Of course?

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course? How do how do we not have those

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<v Speaker 1>concerns that black women are very vulnerable, like my homebod

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<v Speaker 1>was like women got all the power. I'm saying they do,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still so vulnerable. Do you understand how much

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<v Speaker 1>we need you? Brothers? Do you do you? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>grasp how necessary you are? Do you see what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with our kids? Do you do you? Are you paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention that they're building more prisons and tearing down schools?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see what's happening? How necessary you are? Not

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<v Speaker 1>just your presence, but your voice and your your your command.

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<v Speaker 1>We need we need you wide awake. We need you

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<v Speaker 1>so desperately, so deeply. Whatever it is that you have planned,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it in the dark. Revolution does not happen in

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<v Speaker 1>the light. It happens in the darkness. Normally some smoke involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, jazz was not invented in the broad daylight.

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<v Speaker 1>It was invented in small, tiny places with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of smoke in the air and people were being themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't videotape it, you can't blog about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can you can't do any of that stuff. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to be quiet and focused, and then you bring in

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<v Speaker 1>people who mean and do good that are focused on that,

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<v Speaker 1>not just everybody because it looks nice. That just people

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<v Speaker 1>that want to hashtage and instagram and post pictures. But

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<v Speaker 1>the hashtag right right, If we if we want to

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<v Speaker 1>make a change, it's got to be done quietly. First

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<v Speaker 1>focus the direction and then make that direction happen. Focus

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<v Speaker 1>bringing people that you need. What do you need? You

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<v Speaker 1>need people that thoroughly understand the law and all the

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<v Speaker 1>addendums and amendums and all that other foolishness that are

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<v Speaker 1>added to laws. You need somebody that understands it, really

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<v Speaker 1>really understands it. Then you needn't. I'm not sure about politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think I don't either. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you kind of do it because when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at people like Martin VI. King Jr. He needed John F.

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy and Linda B. Johnson to make the civil rights

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<v Speaker 1>like in nineteen sixty four happened. So you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>do for like laws of the land. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you do for revolution, right, the true revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's and it has no color. Revolution doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a color. It is people this siding that what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening is incorrect. Absolutely, it's not beneficial to the society.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the beneficial to the people when foods have

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<v Speaker 1>more stuff than food in them, right. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this yesterday. That's Craig. Craig, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>expect people to to thrive and grow and survive and

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<v Speaker 1>be saying? How do you expect that? Right? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Joe Scott, Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>if I got heavy on I'm sorry. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about bj the Chicago Kitty is the only

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<v Speaker 1>him because I like the Chicago kid. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>just wondering what made you decide he was the one

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<v Speaker 1>feature for the album. There were a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that I tried BJ. Um. First of all, I fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love to his first record, Pineapple Now Lads is

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<v Speaker 1>still one of my favorite records of all time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard his voice and it's it's it's so reminiscent

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<v Speaker 1>of everything that's good about music, and he's got this

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<v Speaker 1>clear understanding of what soul is. I'm absolutely I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited about him. So he's out on the road with

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<v Speaker 1>me now, you know, Um, I try to walk my

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<v Speaker 1>walk back. You know what I'm saying so um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the only only feature on the album just

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<v Speaker 1>because Ninth Wonder is involved, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just like how this feels. This feels beautiful, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted Tom to give him a shout out and when

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<v Speaker 1>it's supporting, because I think he's amazing, all right, to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we put that out there. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you and Killer Mike need to do like a revolutionary

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<v Speaker 1>record together. Listen, I'm about that run of Joel's Life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so did you hear Oozy? One of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite ever? Did you did? I'm talking about David Banner's Oozy.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to play It's David Banner and big crit that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to play that every time, right before I perform.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to play that and it's its own repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>Loving that and obviously you know running Jules. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you. Appreciate your thought. Thank you. But

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<v Speaker 1>just got albums in stores now. One woman check her

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<v Speaker 1>out on the road. Wait and there's there's one more.

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<v Speaker 1>Please please please, Okay, I don't want to forget push

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<v Speaker 1>your tea okay at all. That man has a perspective

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and he paints it like a surgeon. It's precise how

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<v Speaker 1>he paints his pictures. I love that. Do I agree

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<v Speaker 1>or understand everything that that or you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been in that trap life. I don't get it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for myself. But I appreciate the story I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and and I need people to look for

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<v Speaker 1>it is Fool's goal with the remix with Pushing t Yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a check for that. Please do but thank

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<v Speaker 1>you just that we really appreciate. I'm glad to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a pleasure when you come by. Your skin looks beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Shout out to doctor Natasha said she's a

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<v Speaker 1>great deb intolergence and doesn't just Scott looked good about

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<v Speaker 1>the way than is one of the baddest out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard Janelle Munet. It's the breakfast Club, Jill Scott