1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Yep, the world 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: was dangerous morning show the Breakfast Club. He turned it on. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Jill quietly like to talk to guests before the interview, 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: you know, I like to wait until the interviewed you 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: at all and yeah, fake looking at my phone until 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: the interview started. But we got Jill Scott here. What's 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: up y'all, Julie from Philly, good to see you. Yes, 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: it's great to have Jill Scott here. And I will 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: say Charlotte Magne went to go see you perform in Brooklyn. 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: I was surprised because we can't get him to go nowhere. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: I've seen you perform at least fifteen times because I 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: used to I told you before. We used to go 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: to the Sugar Water Festival all the time when it 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: was you and Erica Badou and Flower Tree and Queen Latifa. Like, 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: I've seen you perform countless about the times, but not 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Let me tell you something. I had no 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: choice too. It was one of those things. My wife 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: was like, hey, Joe Scott, is matter of fact you 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: want to go to the concert in Jersey. But I 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: was busy. So it happened in Brooklyn's woman keV Holiday 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: made that happen for me, so we went that was monumental. Yes, 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: congratulations on the new album thank You. I like Cruising. 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: I think it's my favorite song on there. I also 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: like Food's Gold and I like um Closure And I 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about closure for a second, Okay, because 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: I was having a conversation when one of my friends, right, 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: and that song is really about like having sex with 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: somebody for the last time for closure. You really think 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: that's a good idea, m I think it can work. Hey, 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: listen any Portland storms where I'm where I am with it. 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: If it could work, it's worked. But do you think 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: it's possible though, because it's like you do it that 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: one last time, you're like, man, I can't let this go. 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: And plus when you do it that last time, you're 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: trying to do it like the best you've ever done it, 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: so that he feels like, Okay, I don't want to 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe maybe not for me. I've had that experience and 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: that last one was not the best one. I'm trying 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: too hard. But my feet were already on my way out, 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I knew this was it. 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: It's wrap it's the last time, and making a conscious 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: decision and then actually saying all right, I'm gonna give 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: my body this one more time. But making that conscious 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: decision and the second gas or regret or anything. What's 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: the point of that? Though? Like why not just why 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: can't a phone conversation just the end? Sometimes phone calls 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: work with some people, Sometimes they don't, you know what 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I said, any port in a storm, 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: when you're trying to get away from something that's not 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: necessarily beneficial to you. If the conversation you had, that conversation, look, 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do this anymore. You know, it was great, 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: but you know, I went more for my life and 53 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: then here you come again or smelling like that, you know, 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you change your mind 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, you're kind of right back 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: where you started. And then you got to go through 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: the whole thing again. When somebody has that that you know, 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: that thing, it's really challenging to to walk away from it. 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: But you know, that same thing that you used to 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: love when you was in love and now you know 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to be with them anymore, is the 62 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: same thing that would end up, irritating you. Yeah, but 63 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: this was This is not about a love relationship. This 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: is about two people that are friends, homely love of friends, 65 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: if you will, and we have a great time. But 66 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: in order to get more and more, in order to 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: have a well balanced relationship, you know, a participant in 68 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: your life, not just somebody that comes in and makes 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: a good real quick and disappears. I'm talking about a partnership. 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: In order to have that, you gotta make way. You 71 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: gotta make room. And and that's my opinion. I really 72 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: feel like you got to you gotta clear some stuff out, 73 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: you know that in order to let that in. That's 74 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: the reason for the closure, because other than that, you 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: still got this other thing that can hold you back 76 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: from where you really want to go. You know, I 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: was watching the documentary on Central. I don't know if 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: the Docmunity is like you perform a live woman. Yeah, 79 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: and you seem like you're in a great space with love, 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: like you was talking about love and it's like your 81 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: eyes will water and I'm like, well, who is banging 82 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: jails back out? That got hurt feeling? Well, I can 83 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: say this, it's more than it's more than sex way 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: way way way more than that, And that's that's that's 85 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: the goal, that's the that's the the game, that's the 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: end game. You know, more than just my physicality being 87 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: appeased or pleased or stimulated or titillated. It's more than that, 88 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's the rest of it. To have a 89 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: partner that's on your team, that will hold up their 90 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: end plus yours if you need it. That's what I'm 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: talking about. There's a difference, and you're willing to hold 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: up their end if they need it. Absolutely, It's it's 93 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: a beautiful giving take. No, you was talking like this 94 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: person that killed somebody for you before, like you like 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: you love this individual you was talking about. I'm sitting 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: on the couch like that. I really don't recall talking 97 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: about anyone though. You was talking in general about love. 98 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: You was like, you know, and love when you find 99 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: that one you because that is a part of observation 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: as well. I'm a voyeur. I watch people like for instance, 101 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: I met I met a musician the other day. I 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: loved watching him talk to his wife. I love looking 103 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: at her when she when he wasn't looking right. I 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: love watching her look at him. I was like, this 105 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about, right, you know, it's it's 106 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm just paying attention to what I see, and I'm 107 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: seeing a beautiful resurrection of relationships, people that genuinely are 108 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: about that life for each other, and they have their 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: stuff with them, but it's their stuff, right, you know 110 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? What kind of space? Where are you 111 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: in doing this album? Um? What kind of place was 112 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: I in? I was in a couple of places. Yeah, 113 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: because I hear different thing. Yeah. Well, the album is 114 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: like a journal, you know. So you if you've ever 115 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: kept a journal, I have since I was twelve. But 116 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: when you look through it, you've got sometimes you you're 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: every page, every day you're writing in your journal, and 118 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: then sometimes you're you miss months, right, you know. So 119 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm strolling through the journal, looking through and I see 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: this part of myself, and I see this part of myself, 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: and that's kind of how the album really worked. Different 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: parts of your life, different pieces, and it's not necessarily 123 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: my life. Like I said, I'm a voyeur. I listened 124 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: to a lot of women. I listened to older women, 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: I listen to younger women. I listen and I listen 126 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: to men too. People talk to me for whatever reason 127 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: I let them, Oh, I think you'd make an amazing 128 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: life coach, thanks an amazing like psychiatrist type person you 129 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: would go to to tell your problems and then you 130 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: would give advice to Well, I play. That was one 131 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: of the plans before music. Yeah, or you would just 132 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: go psychology. I was about to really change the last 133 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: one minute and decided to teach English. Really, yeah, what 134 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: made you? What made you want to be a psychiatrist 135 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: to begin with? Well, I enjoyed listening, and I thought 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: that I could help, you know, if I, you know, 137 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: have a balanced perspective on stuff, that I might be 138 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: able to help somebody. That's interesting. I went to school 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: and I took psychology and it was too hard, and 140 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: I dropped that as the only class average job because 141 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: it was way harder than I thought it was gonna be. 142 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: And then I ended up being an English major. Right 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: after that, I did that, I didn't go to college. 144 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: When I tried to go to college, psychology and I 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: bought the book, but I never went to class. I 146 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: just ended up reading the book. Those books. Yeah, that 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: psychology book was like this thing. Yeah, I was like, 148 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if this classes for me. Those books 149 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: are really expensive, which is one of the reasons why 150 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: I know, I know you guys are, But I ended 151 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: up starting Blues Baby Foundation because I wanted to pay 152 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: for people's books. Right, Like I couldn't afford my books. 153 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I could afford school. I could get to school. Was 154 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I wearing the same clothes a couple of times a week? Yeah, 155 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to second hand books like I 156 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: got the second hand so I could get right right, 157 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: that was a lot. That was a lot. No, I 158 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: clean toilets now now, um, you said something very interesting 159 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: in the Huffington Post I read. You said, being being 160 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: an artist you're talking about Bill Cobby. You said being 161 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: an artist and a black man that is beloved is 162 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous positions that you can be in. 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on that. Well. I remember the day 164 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: when I was in New Jersey and I saw every 165 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: kid with an Allen iverson Jersey, on every kid everywhere, 166 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, he's in trouble, right, He's 167 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: in trouble. When you are looked past your skin and 168 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: at your talent, When you look past your skin and 169 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: at what you bring to something that people love, that 170 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: means You're beloved beyond the color of your skin or 171 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: your race and all of that. And it was maybe 172 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: a month later that he was on the cover of 173 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: the Daily News in Philadelphia with his braids out, and 174 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: he was about maybe two shades darker on the cover, 175 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: and then he was It was like they had vilified him, 176 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: you know that quick. Bringing a lot of light and 177 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: attention to the prospect of a human being simply being 178 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: a human being, coming from a black man is dangerous 179 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Look at what happened to Michael Jackson, 180 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: look at what happened to Kevin Clash. I'm talking about Elmo, 181 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: how he was so beloved by everyone. I'm not trying 182 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: to dismiss the fact that people that folks have done 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: some terrible foul things. With the understanding that men all 184 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: have proclivities, rich ones, smart ones, dumb ones, backwoods ones, 185 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: all men have proclivities. That just means something that's natural 186 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: to you, that you like, that's probably really bad. Yea. 187 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: So we forget our heroes are human, forget that they're human. 188 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: But what I see is at our heroes and and 189 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: please understand, I'm from North Philly, but Cosby is from 190 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: North Philly. That man was like a father to me. 191 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: He showed me everything about life that I did not 192 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: see in North Philadelphia, not just because I watched the 193 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: television shows, but I did watch them. I watched the 194 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: Cosby Show. I mean, I watched the Cosby Show. I 195 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: watched that Albert Different world made me want to go 196 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: to college. College. Ain't nobody around my way going into college. 197 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate and respect that legacy. Still, that's a man. Still, 198 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: that's a man. And I've always been about that with 199 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: fame and famous people, but I I felt the need 200 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: to remember the Kevin clashes and the Michael Jackson's and 201 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: how people were really trying to destroy that legacy. What's 202 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: the dude's name, Phil Spector. He killed a woman, tried 203 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: and convicted, but he's still in the Rock and roll 204 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. If I'm not mistaken, Elvis like them young, 205 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying that this is right. I'm saying 206 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: that all men have proclivities, and I really feel that 207 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: whatever is done to some do to all, don't decimate 208 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: the legacy of the good. You're trying to tell me, 209 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: You're trying to tell me they're regardless of how much 210 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: good I do in the world. If I do something bad, 211 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: just something terrible, everything else gets pushed away. You forget 212 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: and you think this is something that happens with black man. 213 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: And then you look particular a Phil Specter who still 214 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even 215 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: though he murdered someone and another Harrilson has had sex 216 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: with his um step daughter or whatever whatever. She was 217 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: adopted not white men can't jump my bad. Yes, they 218 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: had an adopted daughter and he ended up marrying her. Yes, 219 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: And what was it great Balls of Fire? Wasn't that movie? 220 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: Um Jim, who was it? Buddy Holly? I mean it happened. 221 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: It has happened in Latin history. And now they're saying 222 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: with Bill Cosby, get all his TV shows up the air, 223 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: Spellming no longer one. I think that's why scholarship program 224 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: they took down his statue. I think that's why. The 225 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: reason I think that's why is because like what Jill 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: just said about a different world inspired her to want 227 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: to go to college, and my homegirl, jazz Fly, she 228 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: has just saying what she says, we have to learn 229 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: to separate the art from the artists. The art helped 230 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: and benefited a lot. The artists may be flawed, but 231 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: the art made you want to go to college. Wagner 232 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: a notorious racist, but incredible musician and composer. I mean 233 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: the history and list of men with dirty, terrible things. 234 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: And guess what, the more money you get, the more 235 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: easily and more apt you are to do the worst things, 236 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: because they've always been in you. There it is. If 237 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: nobody's helped you or or guided you or stopped you 238 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: from being the worst you could be, and they're lifting 239 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: you up and just you know, allowing you to do 240 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: the worst things, you're gonna do it. Probably, So what 241 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: do you think should happen then? In that case, in 242 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: a Belle Cosby situation? Ah, what do I think should 243 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: happen to him? Yeah? Like what should happen? What should 244 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: the repercussions be? I mean a lot of these crimes, 245 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: alleged crimes, were committed so long ago it's passed statute 246 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: of limitation. I think the best thing for mister Cozle 247 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: to do right now is pass away because the slander 248 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: turned to simplathy. Just like that, they did the same 249 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: thing to Michael. They vilified Michael. Then when Michael passed. 250 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: He was the hero again, that's what they say, though 251 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: they say you either died a hero or a live 252 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: long enough to become a villain. I was told, I 253 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: don't know if it's true or not that the first 254 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: person to accuse Michael Jackson of their father committee suicide. 255 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I don't know either. I 256 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: just heard that. I don't know if it's true or not. 257 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: All that's this is a show that's not based on facts. Yeah, 258 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean, all I'm saying is that looking at the 259 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: big picture was the reason that I could not could 260 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: not make any real decisions other than love. If it's 261 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: your father, if it's your dad, and fifty, let's say sixty, 262 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: let's say a hundred people say so something terrible about 263 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: your father, the one that's raised you, the one that's 264 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: been there, the one that took care of your skin, knees. 265 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this because I saw the man 266 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: on television. Bill Cosby has been good to me, officially 267 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: good to me. North Philly girl, doing well, reaching out, 268 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: how you're doing? You need anything? Let me give you 269 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: some advice, let me share something you know, a cappuccino 270 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: with you, no, but he had his daughter drive to 271 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: New York to get something from my throat and I 272 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: toured up. I drank it every day. It's it's hard, 273 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And plus he hasn't said yes, 274 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I've done. But even in the demosition, you did you 275 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: you came out and said you had to stop defriending 276 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: him though, because it doesn't look good. I mean, my 277 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: mind is present. My heart did not want to believe 278 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: anything negative about someone I love and admire and respect 279 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: so much, but my mind is still. President was like, 280 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: damn it, there's no way around this. This is just 281 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: looks bad. It smells bad, it tastes bad. This this 282 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: is bad. You got a lot of backlash from social media. 283 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: I was like, this is Jill Scott y'all trying to slay. 284 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: But listen, people make mistakes. Sometimes we misspeak. We can 285 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: change our mind, we can change your view on something. 286 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: I can get more information. Are you sure? You can 287 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: get more information and more facts and be like, you 288 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: know what, maybe there's more to this than I originally knew. 289 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: It happens every day, right, it happens all the time. 290 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: You don't you don't know something, and then you find 291 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: something out, and you find out some more. All I 292 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: know is that, um, I'm a human being and my 293 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: love ain't watery. H and just because it got hot, 294 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It didn't just jump and 295 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: dissipate or evaporate. People ain'tn't understand it. You don't understand. 296 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: And I'm a real I'm a person, and this man. 297 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: If I could explain how many people die in North Philly, 298 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: especially when I was growing up, if I could explain 299 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: the differences between myself and I felt like so many 300 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: other people, I felt very alone, and I saw someone 301 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: just making strides knocking down doors, it was inspiring to me. 302 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: And I would hope that if the shoe was ever 303 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: on the other foot, that something was being said about 304 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: me that was terrible, horrible, vile and disgusting. I would 305 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: hope that somebody who's ever claimed to appreciate love and 306 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: respect me would at least be like, let wait, wait, wait, 307 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: wait wait, I'm not jumping up anything. I'm a whole 308 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: tight a of Twitter followers, you know. I would hope 309 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: that I could be treated the way I would want 310 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: that I treat other people. How do you deal with 311 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: social media? Do you ever feel like you want to disconnect, 312 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: because when you know, when you just seeing music and 313 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: you hear you talk, I don't feel like you're a 314 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: social media present. But I see you going back and 315 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 1: forth sometimes with these trolls. Sometimes sometimes I sometimes, I mean, 316 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: it baffles me because I was just saying this out there. 317 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't see how somebody cannot like 318 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: Jail Scott, I just don't get it. Like amazing singer, 319 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: great songs, fifteen years in the game, always minding your business, 320 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: You're not. It's not like you be in the middle 321 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: of Typically I try, I try. If somebody message your man, 322 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Y'll walk over there and snap. I mean, you are 323 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: what women we go through the same things you go through. 324 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we live in the era 325 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: of you getting back what you give out no more. 326 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe I get it back. I 327 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: get it back. I get it back. I get it back. 328 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: When somebody yells from across the street or somebody behind 329 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: me is like, appreciate you, thanks to because they're not 330 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: stopping my life, you know what I mean. Fanaticism is 331 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: different from respect. Fanaticism goes hard and it's it's what 332 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: they need, not not what will make this a real moment. 333 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: It's like, ah, you know, And I experience that occasionally 334 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: more than more than I want to. But then I 335 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: have these moments where somebody is telling me what this 336 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: song did or how it affected something in their lives. 337 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: I gave birth to this song, I made my child 338 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: to this song. When my father died, we played this song. 339 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: He loved this. And I have those kind of moments 340 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: where I'm great, I'm so grateful to have any impact 341 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: on someone's life. I'm like, Wow, I get to do this. 342 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: That's in music. It's supposed to be for I would think, 343 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: I would think, and I appreciate those moments. Why did 344 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: you tight of this album? Woman? I've been waiting to 345 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: get here for a long time as a as a female, 346 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: I've been waiting to get to this point where I'm 347 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: I'm grown. I'm going to say what I feel. I'm 348 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna say what I believe. I'm going to use my 349 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: wisdom um that I've had enough life experiences that I 350 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: feel like, I could, you know, really impact somebody younger 351 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: than me, or maybe somebody at the same age. I 352 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: associate myself with elder women because they've got great stories, 353 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: they've got great advice. They call me on my stuff. 354 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Oh they call me, oh boy, Not that I'm not 355 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: talking about real life. Like what what what I got 356 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: from my elder sister about the Bill Cosby situation, She said, 357 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, but you have the right 358 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: to feel the way you do. Now, what the rest 359 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: of the world didn't know is, at the same time, 360 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: my father has dementia. So I'm losing my dad right 361 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: and I'm losing my dad at the same time. I'm 362 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: not talking about like I don't I'm not looking for 363 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: anybody feel sorry for me. I'm just saying I am 364 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: a person. There's stuff that happens in the course of 365 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: a life that somebody else doesn't understand, and it is 366 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: what it is. What about relationships? Do you have elder 367 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: women that call you out on things that you do 368 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: in relationships that you need to do differently. Absolutely, they'll 369 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: don't stop me. I'm like, well, this is what I'm 370 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: going to do. I don't do that quick. I used to. 371 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: I used to you should never fall in love. When 372 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: you fall, you get hurt. You're supposed to grow in 373 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: love with people. I agree. I agree. It takes time. 374 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: It takes time, but you kind of. My grandmother told 375 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: me that the man is the stem and the woman 376 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: is the flower, and he must always be looking up 377 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: at her, and the stem gets stuck in the flower 378 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: too exactly. Hey, yeah, yeah, you feel me. But he's 379 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: the root and she's the blossom. From that. From that 380 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: and I she always told me that the men know 381 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: before we do. You guys know, at some point, tell me, 382 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: did you look at your wife and say that's my wife? Yes, 383 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: that's what Apparently that's why I know exactly when that happened, 384 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: was shot at me too. When did he tell you? 385 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: He was laying it here on the floor, almost dead 386 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: from de hijason and exhaustion, running around doing whatever he 387 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: was doing and calling me job. He goes like this, 388 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: I gotta get my girl back. I'm getting married, so 389 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I've done. I remember that bottom growls that was in 390 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: the collub drinking your bottles. They don't care about you, 391 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: But when you was, when you was laying on me, 392 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: and he didn't even care, We didn't care. We were 393 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: you coming to work tomorrow way to keep it real, okay, 394 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: And that's how he true. You know, those men know, 395 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: we just know we know who the one is now 396 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: even if we and it's your job to convince us 397 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: that absolutely convince convince me that you're different, that you're different, 398 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: and that this is sincere and that you mean what 399 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: you say. And that's a part of the beautiful you know, 400 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: the whole Oh that I love that part. Convince me, 401 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: show up. It never stops, though, because for some reason, 402 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: women are never really truly convinced. And I guess that 403 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: keeps us on our toes because you'll be taking like 404 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: two steps forward and one step backward. That's why I 405 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of times you'll do like some great 406 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: stuff and then all of a sudden you do something 407 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: that's a red flag. Men. You heard just say that 408 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: we're men? Yeah, and then you know what guys have 409 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: to say, Well, I'm a working progress. That's the guy's 410 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm a work in progress. Done stamp on me. I'm 411 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: on a working progress. We all are, but where we 412 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: all make decisions we can't make and try our best 413 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: to stick by them. Like I'm like you said, your 414 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: name is albums a woman. I'm still trying to figure 415 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: out why, at this point in your life you feel 416 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: like a woman because you've been married, you've got a child, 417 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: like yeah, why now? And I'm holding myself to another 418 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: level of accountability. I think I used to blame whoever 419 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: it was that hurt my feelings, like they were wrong, 420 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, And now I hold myself accountable a r. 421 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: You chose that person, you accepted his you accepted it, 422 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: you went forward, You bit into the apple, you you 423 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: bought the wooden nickel. You know what I'm saying. You 424 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: did that. The accountability is a big position and being 425 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: a woman and being an adult, um, not just being 426 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: an adult, but officially owning your womanhood because a lot 427 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: of times we have these fantasies as girls or how 428 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be and who he's going to be 429 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: and if he hurts my feelings and he hurt feelings, 430 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: well men have feelings too, they do and and it 431 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: takes two to tango. So are you in a relationship 432 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: right now? SIPs coffee, sip cappuccino. Sent about Bill Colony. 433 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Very interesting what you said though, because you said you're 434 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: taking accountability for you, so you can't be a woman, 435 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: like like, a marriage don't make you a woman, A 436 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: child will make you a woman? Has to be something 437 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: within you. Yes, yes, and that takes time. You got 438 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: to earn your stripes. You know, you gotta get down 439 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: on the ground, have a heartbreak. Look at yourself, really 440 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: look at yourself, the choices that your mother made. How 441 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: did you end up here? Why did you get here 442 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: and then start making some changes? Right? What do you 443 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: think has contributed to your growth the most in your life? 444 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: If you could pinpoint one thing, you said, this is 445 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: what made me grow. My son. I knew at having 446 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: a child that'll do it. My son, Yeah, because he 447 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: sees me. It's not like I confront with him, like 448 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: he sees me like everything's all right, baby. He's like, 449 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: I just saw you crying. He told me not too 450 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: long ago, he told me that women have to tough up. 451 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: I was telling him I was afraid. I was like, 452 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm scared, and he was just like, mommy, women just 453 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: have to tough up. I don't know if it's that easy. 454 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I was just having this conversation with somebody else said 455 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: about how women are so vulnerable, and you know, it's 456 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: the same thing because I have a daughter. So you 457 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: start to see different things. Women have different things they 458 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: have to deal with, especially a black woman. They got 459 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: to deal with racism and feminism, which is that's kind 460 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: of hard. He kind of leaves you open all the time. 461 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: It can Well, the thing is about being open, is 462 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: you have to for me anyway, I believe that you 463 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: have to make the decision on how much you open 464 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: and where you do, you know, giving a little bit 465 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: at a time, giving a little bit. If you're in 466 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: a relationship, why should why should he see everything? What 467 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: happened I'll say for me anyway, what happened for me 468 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: is the kind of relationship that I had with the 469 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: last dude. I'm trying to have with the next dude 470 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: because that's the kind of relationship I like. Right Well, 471 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: it's a whole different person with a whole different you know, 472 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to date the same person in different skin, 473 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: you know, or you are dating the same person in 474 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: different skin, So you end up missing out on what 475 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: you really need because you're looking at what you want. 476 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Women look at what they need more than what they want. Necessity. 477 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: Am I choosing a fabulous pair of shoes? Or am 478 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: I choosing a healthy meal? Am I choosing this house 479 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: that I can't afford? Or am I choosing to live 480 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: within my life, in my budget, within my budget, within 481 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: my circumstance. So I ain't got to worry. It's it's 482 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: it's about making decisions and I'm not saying you got 483 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: to stick by them, but you have to look at 484 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: the bigger picture than what you want right now. Because 485 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: that's what girls do their children and in a sense, 486 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's what kids do. Kids 487 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: get what they want. They don't think about I need 488 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: to eat vegetables because you know I need to, you know, 489 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: have a proper movement, nothing about stuff like that. Younger girls, 490 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: if you don't know, yeah, I mean that's what that's 491 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: where kids are with it. And a lot of women, 492 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: or I'll say a lot of grown girls. Grown girls, 493 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, they make their their decisions on their life 494 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: based on what they want, not what you need. Man, 495 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: do you think women know how much power they have? 496 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Because I know this is the thought that now. I 497 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: feel like if women came together and created an organization, 498 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: I feel like they'd be more powerful than the ADF 499 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: And I think glad like women can shut you down. Yeah. 500 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: We make decisions about what we're going to accept in 501 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: what we want, able to change a whole lot of 502 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: things in this society, a whole lot of change. If 503 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: we decided that we don't like guys that show their 504 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: underwear in the street, I'm gonna give you about a 505 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: good month. Nobody's gonna be showing their underwear. Nobody's gonna 506 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: be showing the I'm telling you. We we make a 507 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: decision and say that we need someone that reads a 508 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: book that I can have a conversation with. We need 509 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: that it's a requirement before I even let you touch it. 510 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: Things are gonna change. I do feel like women set 511 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: the tone in relationships in life. In life, God's only 512 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: doing what girls, except we dress a certain that's more 513 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: power than me. No. I don't know who's gonna tell 514 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: them that though, But that's I mean, that's what happens 515 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: with girls. I mean, being a girl is an awesome, fun, crazy, wild, 516 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: beautiful experience except for when we got the money about it. 517 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: But being a woman there's something so fulfilling, and so 518 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: it's like it's like somebody turned the light on and 519 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: you can just see, like, oh, that's where I've been 520 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: bugging all of this time. You know, I've been this dude. 521 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Like for instance, there's a song on the album called 522 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: The Lighthouse. It's called Lighthouse, And initially she's saying that, um, 523 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm here for you, you know, for whatever. 524 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm your rock, and it sounds like to me, it 525 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, they make love. That's what it 526 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: sounds like musically it does. But then afterwards she has 527 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: a moment where she's saying, I'm sitting here contemplating if 528 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: if we should even be you know, I've got I 529 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: have a man that loves me for me. He do 530 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: anything easily for his heart knows no boundaries. But he 531 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: needs he needs sometimes to right with a different pen 532 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: on different paper. He needs to cheat every now and listen, 533 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: that thing right there preaching some thoughtful I'm not saying. 534 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that he needs. 535 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Not every man needs to to to be a philanderer. 536 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: Not every man has to have a whole bunch of women, 537 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: women to feel solid in whom they are and who 538 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: they are, or uh, just because they like it, you 539 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Not every man needs that. But 540 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: if you have one of those, can you deal with that? 541 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: And that's your decision. That is your decision, and once 542 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: you make it, make it. It shouldn't be your decision. 543 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: If the man's doing what he's supposed to do, And 544 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: by that I mean not getting caught cheating. It ain't 545 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: get cheating. In this case, she knows that he needs 546 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: to do that right And I don't I personally, as 547 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: a woman, I don't want to live in a relationship 548 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: where you got secrets that you have this other life 549 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: that I'm not privy to. If you have another life, 550 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: go go to that other life. Because I'm trying to 551 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: be your ace, you'd be surprised. But if you tell 552 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: a woman you want and need from a relationship that 553 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: they might really be okay with it, rather than if 554 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: you do it without saying anything and then she finds 555 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: out and now you have a secret for me. If 556 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: somebody has information, it is true, it is true, but 557 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: that's it. But also I believe that that's a difference 558 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: between dealing with a woman and a girl. A girl, 559 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know for the time being. 560 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: For the time being, a woman might be all for 561 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: it too. I'm not. I'm listening. Just just to be 562 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: clear with you, I'm not judgmental. I'm not. What I 563 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: do is I make observations about people, life and things. 564 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: That's my job. I'm a journalist that happens to sing 565 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: the reports. That's what I do. If you're honest about 566 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: what you need, you just might get it. You just 567 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: might get it and be happy. Now, don't go home 568 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: and jump off the like Nope, I'm not gonna do it. Well, 569 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean to believe me, I'm just gotten. I'm definitely 570 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: in a position to get exactly what it is that 571 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: I want. And that's what it's got to be, not want, 572 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: forgive me, forgive me. I've had what I want to need, 573 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: what I need, what I needed. I don't know about everybody. 574 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: This just got need. I need a partner. I need 575 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: somebody that can understand what it is that my life is. 576 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: That UM can check me and not in a disrespectful 577 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: way or woman bow down kind of way, but yo, 578 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: you need to show for a minute for real, and 579 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: then the mutual respect that says to me, you have 580 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: nothing in you that wants harm for me, nothing you 581 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: love me. Let me sit down for a men and 582 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: trust and have faith in that. That's what I need. 583 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I need that kind of relationship. I need somebody who 584 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: likes to go to lows. You know what I'm saying, 585 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: like I like to fix stuff around my house, participate, 586 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: and what I'm saying, I need someone who's gonna show 587 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: up to the crib with with some paper towels, you 588 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, some toilet paper, Like you're gonna 589 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 1: be here, right, you know you're not gonna use paper 590 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: towels you. I'm just no, no, no, no, no, no 591 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: no no no. I just I I need I need 592 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: my ace, you know what I mean, someone that really 593 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: understands and enjoys and loves the things that I love 594 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: and wants to support the things that I love, and 595 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: has things that I love about them that they want 596 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: me to support them in. And I enjoy it. And 597 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: it sounds so simple. It's so simple. It's so simple. 598 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: It's it's really not rocket science. We put all this 599 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: other stuff on it. Oh he gotta have um, he 600 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: gotta have a sixth pack in a Bugatti. He gotta 601 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: have this, that, that, that, that, and that not all 602 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: of the stuff that at the end of the day, 603 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: it looks nice, but that whip can be crashed, that 604 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: house can be burnt. You know, those those abs I 605 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 1: mean letting me too much or not work out or whatever. 606 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: They dissipay, they disappear, and what do you have? All 607 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: of your wants are checked, they're gone, and now you 608 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: got this guy with none of the stuff that you wanted. 609 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: That's not that lows with me. That's not bringing over. 610 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: Note to No, that's not participating in life. I need 611 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: you to participate in life. We want to live right right. 612 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: That means that maybe you cook tonight, maybe maybe we 613 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: have a chef, Maybe maybe maybe I cook, Maybe you 614 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: mock the floor. I'm just saying, in order for things 615 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: to stay, it's some modicum of normality which I believe in. 616 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too fancy that I forget 617 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: that I'm Joyce's daughter and Bill's child. I don't want 618 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: to forget that. I don't want to forget that. I 619 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: can tell you grew up around a lot of loving 620 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: relationships like you saw a lot of healthy relationship and 621 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: I love seeing it. I love seeing it. I don't 622 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: know how it is that I'm gonna tell you what 623 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: happened as a girl, I forgot what was important. I'm 624 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be adored. You're supposed to be adored. Your 625 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: wife is supposed to be adored like the flower. Get it. 626 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: That's that's how you know when you are when you 627 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: are loved and appreciated for not for having your weave 628 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: tight today and they might not be, or your nails 629 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: done or or you know, the pooch might be sitting 630 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: out today or whatever the case is. Like, have someone 631 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: that appreciates who you are, regardless. That means it's past 632 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: being male or female. It's being it's love. It's way 633 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: past that. I think we put a lot of for 634 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: lack of a better if we put a lot of 635 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: ball on things that really matter. Right. So that's you know, 636 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I sound like I'm preaching you, that's 637 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: really not my not I'm just hanging out with these 638 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: older chicks. So I has to do with the album Women, 639 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: And you wanted to know why the album is called Women, 640 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: and these are all the reasons. Thank you, Thank you. 641 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: I was a long way around. But you know, when 642 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: you're getting talk show man, I'm not you need to sell. 643 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: You gotta give it like this with just got it 644 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: to the masses. For everybody that's not listening to your music, 645 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: which you should be, but for some people don't need 646 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: to hear your your your wisdom. I feel like you're 647 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: full of knowledge was and you got a nice warm 648 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: I think through your music and your performances that is 649 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: like my talk show for a while. You need to talk. 650 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: You could be the new over for you, and you 651 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 1: got It's like when you talk, it's like I feel 652 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: like you're gonna burt me and then let me lay 653 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: on your bullsom you know what I mean. Like it's 654 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: just warm. Maybe I don't know. I don't know. There's 655 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: much to do, There's a lot to do. I'm I'm 656 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: really excited about about my future. I'm really excited about that. 657 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: So just in case something happens and somebody tells you 658 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: that I killed myself, fuck, no, no, no, on everything 659 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, on everything, everything ever good, that ever 660 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: happened in my life, that that is something that I 661 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: would not do. Feel me, anybody hearing me out there? Yes, 662 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: all right, not just saying. I'm just saying just in 663 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: case somebody says that I did that, I'm saying right 664 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: here that definitely not happened. I'm willing to go through 665 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: the fire. Do you have those concerns now? Of course? 666 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: Of course? How do how do we not have those 667 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: concerns that black women are very vulnerable, like my homebod 668 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: was like women got all the power. I'm saying they do, 669 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: but they're still so vulnerable. Do you understand how much 670 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: we need you? Brothers? Do you do you? Do you 671 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: grasp how necessary you are? Do you see what's happening 672 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,959 Speaker 1: with our kids? Do you do you? Are you paying 673 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: attention that they're building more prisons and tearing down schools? 674 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: Do you see what's happening? How necessary you are? Not 675 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: just your presence, but your voice and your your your command. 676 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: We need we need you wide awake. We need you 677 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: so desperately, so deeply. Whatever it is that you have planned, 678 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: keep it in the dark. Revolution does not happen in 679 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: the light. It happens in the darkness. Normally some smoke involved. 680 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, jazz was not invented in the broad daylight. 681 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: It was invented in small, tiny places with a lot 682 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: of smoke in the air and people were being themselves. 683 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: You can't videotape it, you can't blog about it. You 684 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: can you can't do any of that stuff. It has 685 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: to be quiet and focused, and then you bring in 686 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: people who mean and do good that are focused on that, 687 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: not just everybody because it looks nice. That just people 688 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: that want to hashtage and instagram and post pictures. But 689 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: the hashtag right right, If we if we want to 690 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: make a change, it's got to be done quietly. First 691 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: focus the direction and then make that direction happen. Focus 692 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: bringing people that you need. What do you need? You 693 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: need people that thoroughly understand the law and all the 694 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: addendums and amendums and all that other foolishness that are 695 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: added to laws. You need somebody that understands it, really 696 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: really understands it. Then you needn't. I'm not sure about politicians. 697 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I don't either. I 698 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: guess you kind of do it because when you look 699 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: at people like Martin VI. King Jr. He needed John F. 700 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: Kennedy and Linda B. Johnson to make the civil rights 701 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: like in nineteen sixty four happened. So you kind of 702 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: do for like laws of the land. But yeah, I 703 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: don't think you do for revolution, right, the true revolution, 704 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's and it has no color. Revolution doesn't 705 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: have a color. It is people this siding that what 706 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: is happening is incorrect. Absolutely, it's not beneficial to the society. 707 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: It's not the beneficial to the people when foods have 708 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: more stuff than food in them, right. I was just 709 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday. That's Craig. Craig, how do you 710 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: expect people to to thrive and grow and survive and 711 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: be saying? How do you expect that? Right? You know 712 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Joe Scott, Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry 713 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: if I got heavy on I'm sorry. I wanted to 714 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: ask you about bj the Chicago Kitty is the only 715 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: him because I like the Chicago kid. But I was 716 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: just wondering what made you decide he was the one 717 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: feature for the album. There were a lot of people 718 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 1: that I tried BJ. Um. First of all, I fell 719 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: in love to his first record, Pineapple Now Lads is 720 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: still one of my favorite records of all time. Um. 721 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: I heard his voice and it's it's it's so reminiscent 722 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: of everything that's good about music, and he's got this 723 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: clear understanding of what soul is. I'm absolutely I'm I'm 724 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: excited about him. So he's out on the road with 725 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: me now, you know, Um, I try to walk my 726 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: walk back. You know what I'm saying so um, you know, 727 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: he was the only only feature on the album just 728 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: because Ninth Wonder is involved, and I was like, I 729 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: just like how this feels. This feels beautiful, and I 730 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: wanted Tom to give him a shout out and when 731 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: it's supporting, because I think he's amazing, all right, to 732 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: make sure we put that out there. I feel like 733 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: you and Killer Mike need to do like a revolutionary 734 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: record together. Listen, I'm about that run of Joel's Life. Okay, 735 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: I am so did you hear Oozy? One of my 736 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: favorite ever? Did you did? I'm talking about David Banner's Oozy. 737 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: You have to play It's David Banner and big crit that. 738 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: I got to play that every time, right before I perform. 739 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: I have to play that and it's its own repeat. 740 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: Loving that and obviously you know running Jules. Thank you, 741 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Appreciate your thought. Thank you. But 742 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: just got albums in stores now. One woman check her 743 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: out on the road. Wait and there's there's one more. 744 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: Please please please, Okay, I don't want to forget push 745 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: your tea okay at all. That man has a perspective 746 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: and he paints it like a surgeon. It's precise how 747 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: he paints his pictures. I love that. Do I agree 748 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: or understand everything that that or you know what I'm saying. 749 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: I've never been in that trap life. I don't get it, 750 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, for myself. But I appreciate the story I did. 751 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: I did, and and I need people to look for 752 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: it is Fool's goal with the remix with Pushing t Yeah, okay, yeah, 753 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: I got a check for that. Please do but thank 754 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: you just that we really appreciate. I'm glad to see you. 755 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure when you come by. Your skin looks beautiful. 756 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. Shout out to doctor Natasha said she's a 757 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: great deb intolergence and doesn't just Scott looked good about 758 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: the way than is one of the baddest out here. 759 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: Heard Janelle Munet. It's the breakfast Club, Jill Scott