Speaker 1: This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at
Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut
Speaker 1: to it. Good do it, Good do it. Let's getting
Speaker 1: down to do it. Good do it. We asked the
Speaker 1: questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,
Speaker 1: let's cut to it. You ain't heard am about it?
Speaker 1: Then we're about to let you know. It's all about
Speaker 1: these playoffs. It's been crazy, right, these playoffs. Is this
Speaker 1: drug that this drug that the NFL then fell up on.
Speaker 1: This is unbelid This is what smack feels like. Like
Speaker 1: I said smack right, I said old school barbituous. It
Speaker 1: was great football. It was fantastic playoff football. You give
Speaker 1: it asund you. Those four games were four games decided
Speaker 1: about twelve points combined. Oh my gosh, there's your best part.
Speaker 1: None of the guys who shouldn't have been in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: we're in the playoffs. All the guys who was supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Now the question is gonna be, you know who,
Speaker 1: who ultimately goes with the bucks going down the way
Speaker 1: the Rams looked, the way Kansas City looked like they're
Speaker 1: back to being Kansas City had a surprise team, you know,
Speaker 1: with with the Bengals surprise. I'm just not sure on
Speaker 1: the Bengals, not because I'm even going forward into next year.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure on the Bengals are winning and going
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, just because, um, they have a
Speaker 1: strong foundation, but they also have some young inexperienced that. Um,
Speaker 1: when you're playing ends the city, like Buffalo is found out,
Speaker 1: you can't relax. You gotta be on your p's and
Speaker 1: queues every play, right. I think the Rams found that
Speaker 1: out with the Bucks, but they were able to, you know,
Speaker 1: squeak it out Kansas City. Same thing, right the Banals.
Speaker 1: They never there was never a doubt once the Bengals
Speaker 1: started playing the Tennessee Titans that this was going to
Speaker 1: be a blowout, that Tennessee was not gonna have their
Speaker 1: hands full. Going back to that, going back to that
Speaker 1: UM Chiefs and Bill's game. What's your thoughts on overtime rule?
Speaker 1: I thing it needs to be adjusted. People A lot
Speaker 1: of people say, oh, we wish we had the college.
Speaker 1: What your what's your thoughts on? I like, I like
Speaker 1: the rule is you know now, I do like the
Speaker 1: if they if they were to kick the field goal,
Speaker 1: they would have had opportunity to get another possession. But
Speaker 1: if you got to walk off home run right there,
Speaker 1: you leave it there. And it wasn't like it was
Speaker 1: a fluke play. They move, They moved the ball down
Speaker 1: to field like you saw the momentum leading up to
Speaker 1: like uh they ht right now, that was a whole
Speaker 1: There was like a bonus football game two minutes. So
Speaker 1: I don't so. You wouldn't even even if you were,
Speaker 1: if you were the bearers, you wouldn't even be upset
Speaker 1: that you didn't even get a chance to get another possession. No,
Speaker 1: because you had a possession. You had a possession to
Speaker 1: stop him. That's true, right, you didn't stop him, right,
Speaker 1: you had to put you had a possession. You had
Speaker 1: a possession to stop him. For the tying field goal,
Speaker 1: you had a possession to stop them before to re
Speaker 1: heal hit that cheetah button. He was like, okay, cheetah,
Speaker 1: but juice. So I don't I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Right, I'm excited for the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: because you got new faces, new names, new teams, and
Speaker 1: some of these teams vintage Wise forty nine. Is you
Speaker 1: removed when they played. You removed the fourty and Miners
Speaker 1: and the Rams when they played, you know when they played.
Speaker 1: But it's old, vintage teams. Thirty two years since the
Speaker 1: Bengal has been to the playoffs, right or the nc
Speaker 1: a f C Championship game. You got the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: We're back in the day. It was either the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and a little bit of the Giants. Those
Speaker 1: three teams would pretty much would represent the NFC in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And then if you got Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs because they the Kanna City Chiefs travel and Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: If Cincinnati makes a Super Bowl, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: right now, they may win or may not win, but
Speaker 1: their fans are gonna travel. It's gonna be crazy. So
Speaker 1: the NFL, because of the Shield or we the NFL,
Speaker 1: the Shield gets the advantage of good football. But we
Speaker 1: didn't know the football was gonna be this great. It
Speaker 1: was remember the playoffs, to remember it was exciting. Noil, body,
Speaker 1: you have to respect. I mean I was texting. I
Speaker 1: text some people that were on all the teams. Bro
Speaker 1: your balld, you know, I text some folks with Buffalo
Speaker 1: said listen, that's a bad mama jam right, and they
Speaker 1: got some good pieces and these these these four, these
Speaker 1: last four teams, the future looks bright for the future,
Speaker 1: from the Josh Allens to the Patrick Mahomes. I mean,
Speaker 1: we we're looking at just it's it's crazy, Joe Burrows
Speaker 1: seeing the man is is really Ken Jimmy Garoppolo keep
Speaker 1: pace for four quarters. He did what he needed to do.
Speaker 1: In the end, it got the dub, but it was
Speaker 1: no shaking him right right right, and and so that
Speaker 1: that that's is it because of or in spite of
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, but you hate to find
Speaker 1: out the wrong onesactly we got On the podcast Jonathan
Speaker 1: Stewart Man, welcome. We'll go to the cut to podcasts.
Speaker 1: I kind of like this. Yeah, you've been doing a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff, man, I appreciate you. Listen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the former teammates listen. They
Speaker 1: and they also had an opinion like, why he ain't
Speaker 1: gonna have me on? Yeah, you liar, I said I
Speaker 1: know that. I lie. Nah, I'm talking about some of
Speaker 1: other people I'm gonna have them on. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just don't want to flood the panther market because
Speaker 1: that's easy. Yeah, and it's like, oh then and then
Speaker 1: I'll be considered a homer. So I gotta just gotta
Speaker 1: switch it up. You're very resourceful, and I try to
Speaker 1: be I try to be all right. So this is
Speaker 1: a segment that we do call get I stuck. Here
Speaker 1: we go. You're ready could have at least like gave me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give you any because if I
Speaker 1: give them to you, then you're gonna be all be
Speaker 1: able to think about it. What's your favorite quotation? M hmmm,
Speaker 1: see Philippians four third team. I can do all things.
Speaker 1: The crest strengthens me. Okay, cool, see off the top.
Speaker 1: And if at the game time he would probably pick
Speaker 1: up bigger and better on scripture that he would have
Speaker 1: screwed up because he would try to memorize it to
Speaker 1: my line, there might be some truth, all right. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite genre of music? R and B like nineties
Speaker 1: R and B take six? Yeah? Oh yeah, good Johnny
Speaker 1: Gil little my my, my little Joe to see. I
Speaker 1: got a nice little playlist, man, it's called a court
Speaker 1: really eight track you I meant no, I had to
Speaker 1: d player, okay, yeah, anti anti shock what's that anti
Speaker 1: shock can stop it from skipping? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had that. Yeah, that's when you know you got money.
Speaker 1: You don't even have to know about I have see
Speaker 1: my headphones had phone on them. M hm. You don't
Speaker 1: know about that. You was listening to your headphones in
Speaker 1: your car. I didn't have a car. My brother cassette. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there it is, see see car. I was on that
Speaker 1: rt D. Yeah it was called I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the I know. I don't know. Um last website
Speaker 1: you visited Google Earth for the resident or piece of
Speaker 1: land out there in chest it all right? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: answer that. It's the tepper. Hey, hey, hey, we're recording
Speaker 1: the podcast and I'm on here with Jonathan Stewart. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I just told you. You called that a
Speaker 1: perfect time. I don't have to say. I love my brother.
Speaker 1: Am I doing a good job over there at at
Speaker 1: the stadium you're recorded now? I think if he's doing
Speaker 1: a good job, that he's learning. If he's not learning,
Speaker 1: that he's not doing a good job like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So in other words, we're gonna fire your ass. I'm learning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've learned in that promise all right, I'll call you back.
Speaker 1: All right, you got any hidden talents? I can paint really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am dumbfounding like a room or no, Like I
Speaker 1: can do paintings really, so like like paints and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So do you you will? Natalie go y'all,
Speaker 1: like you do wine and painting. We've done some wine
Speaker 1: and painting. Yeah, you got painting too before after the wine?
Speaker 1: Both okay, Then she has it. She has a real skill.
Speaker 1: Then all right, because what you do after the alcohol
Speaker 1: might not be might it might not be a talent.
Speaker 1: It may be the alcohol. But what the wine does
Speaker 1: is make you make your creativity. You're what creativity? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It just makes it either takes the governor off or
Speaker 1: it makes it like, where's your creativity? I don't understand
Speaker 1: before after the one, I'm pretty sure my stick figures
Speaker 1: would look the same. I'm drawing stick figures. I can't
Speaker 1: draw to save my life, man, I can't my life.
Speaker 1: That's why my life. And I was on the line
Speaker 1: for a drawing. Where are you from in a place
Speaker 1: you call your hometown? Lacey, Washington? All right? Where is
Speaker 1: that relative capital is? Olympia? Sure? Okay? And then you
Speaker 1: know forty five minutes from Seattle, South Okay, but I
Speaker 1: was born yes, um, Madigan Hospital, Fort Lewis, Washington, right
Speaker 1: outside of Lakewood, which is about thirty minutes outside of Takoma. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, how did your upbringing impact you as a
Speaker 1: as an adult? Now? You know, I would say my
Speaker 1: upbringing you know, simple right, simple things and I think
Speaker 1: you know, taking a guy like me from Lacey of Washington, Um,
Speaker 1: how is Lacey? Washington is a rural is it a city? Like?
Speaker 1: What is it? It's the capital. It's right outside of
Speaker 1: the capital of Washington. So what you do have a
Speaker 1: lot of meth heads, a bunch of people that are
Speaker 1: just just druggis really you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: so um it runs a lot in Washington. So yeah,
Speaker 1: very like I think depression rate you know in Washington
Speaker 1: is crazy. Um, just always getting piste on it just
Speaker 1: missed pretty much. Yeah, um but um, but it called
Speaker 1: for a simple way of living in a sense of
Speaker 1: where you know, how I was raised and you know,
Speaker 1: not really expecting much from people, um and just taking
Speaker 1: you know, taking it upon myself, you know, a single
Speaker 1: mall and just me and my brother. I mean we
Speaker 1: had to figure out you know what we were gonna eat,
Speaker 1: you know, during the day, I got to figure out what,
Speaker 1: So what's your what's your version of poor? Because everybody's
Speaker 1: version of porge is different? Right, government cheese? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And so now that I, you know, get drafted and
Speaker 1: you know you have money, and you know, it'd be
Speaker 1: one thing if I didn't come from a simple mindset
Speaker 1: you know, of living, you know, because I would probably
Speaker 1: be into a lot of other things, you know, or
Speaker 1: wanting a lot of other things. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the simple mindset blessed me, you know, to to not
Speaker 1: need for much or want for much. And I carry
Speaker 1: that over into parenting. You know. You know, if you
Speaker 1: want something, you gotta work for it. What drove you
Speaker 1: to stay away from those meth heads and those drug acts?
Speaker 1: Press of God could have been one choice, right. The
Speaker 1: easy answer to that is just the grace of God
Speaker 1: and and and people that I was able to connect
Speaker 1: with that word doing things the right way, um, you know, teachers, um,
Speaker 1: and finding the confidence and myself through grace to where
Speaker 1: I wouldn't need to feel like I need to you know,
Speaker 1: validation from my peers. And so learning that at a
Speaker 1: young age was crucial for me and believing that was
Speaker 1: crucial for me, you know, my mom and stilling that
Speaker 1: making us go to church. Um, you know, I credit that,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, as far as the why I
Speaker 1: didn't choose to go left, I credit a lot to
Speaker 1: the people that I was blessed to have in my
Speaker 1: life that helped guide and mold who I am. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think if any person,
Speaker 1: I mean, Smithy has those people in his life that
Speaker 1: has helped mold and shape him into the man that
Speaker 1: he is now. And if you feel like at any
Speaker 1: point in your life that you don't need anyone, that's
Speaker 1: a dangerous place to be dangerous. But you also, I'll
Speaker 1: call it smarts for lack of a better term, to
Speaker 1: to listen to those individuals, because again, you know, Uncle
Speaker 1: so AND's man, you don't know any better. But when
Speaker 1: you having that instilled, and you'd be like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna listen, I'm gonna follow him, I'm gonna see what
Speaker 1: he says to kind of help mold you and push
Speaker 1: you down that path. And it takes you humility to apply, right,
Speaker 1: you know, It's one thing to sit there and listen
Speaker 1: to somebody dead and face telling you what how to
Speaker 1: make a million dollars. But you gotta apply, and you
Speaker 1: gotta actually have the tools to take what you hear
Speaker 1: and do the things that are necessary and sacrifice the
Speaker 1: things that are necessary to get you to that point.
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Speaker 1: a brother. Cut to a podcast dot Com take us
Speaker 1: down that road to football because a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know. You've been overall picked by the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: drafted and injured, has surgery prior to the draft. Now
Speaker 1: the Panthers has some insight because the guy that did
Speaker 1: your foot World right now, Bob Anderson, who does most
Speaker 1: guys feet they knew the recovery time. They thought they
Speaker 1: knew the recovery time. But yet, just like anything else,
Speaker 1: that surgery for some people takes X amount of time.
Speaker 1: For you, particularly, how long did it take you after
Speaker 1: your surgery for you to feel right comfortable enough to
Speaker 1: become the player you ended up becoming? Because people don't
Speaker 1: know drafted in April, whend you have your surgery March March,
Speaker 1: right before the draft, you didn't become Jonathan Stewart until when.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have no time. I had from
Speaker 1: March until the third preseason game. But my rookie March,
Speaker 1: so April, well actually April, May, June, July, August. They
Speaker 1: put you in September, October, so probably about December when
Speaker 1: you were and now the weather's change where you were
Speaker 1: expected to start impacting your team as a top fifteen pick.
Speaker 1: So how did you feel getting in the game. March
Speaker 1: of two thousand and eight, I was having surgery before
Speaker 1: my birthday, twenty first birthday, and I was in Eugene, Oregon,
Speaker 1: and I was hearing ESPN telling folks that I was
Speaker 1: a drifter and I have a foot injury, and I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a top pick and all these things. And
Speaker 1: I have already committed to go for the draft early
Speaker 1: as a junior. And so you're hearing all these things
Speaker 1: for the first time about what you're not when you've
Speaker 1: been told what you are, what you are, what you
Speaker 1: could be for the recent time and until you got injured, right,
Speaker 1: and um, you know it was tough, you know, mentally,
Speaker 1: not really sure what to expect, where I'm gonna land
Speaker 1: and all that. And you know I went to Pro
Speaker 1: Day and when I was at the pro day, Um,
Speaker 1: now you have pro Day not being pro Day. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: pro day knowing you cannot perform. But I had calm,
Speaker 1: I had the combine and then Pro Day. I didn't
Speaker 1: have anyone talk to me that Pro Day or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but I did have my combine, which Doug
Speaker 1: Williams he was there. He was with the red Skins
Speaker 1: or Tampa Bay at the time. Tampa he was with
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay at that time. And so I saw him
Speaker 1: in passing in the hallway and he had recognized me.
Speaker 1: That kind of threw me off, like that get that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, he knows who I am. But it's
Speaker 1: more Yeah, but he hit me. He put me to
Speaker 1: the side, and he had must have heard about my
Speaker 1: situation from the training and all that stuff being there
Speaker 1: that I wasn't gonna run because I had my toe injury.
Speaker 1: Well he had what was the toe injury? So I
Speaker 1: had turf toe. Whit turt toe such a big issue
Speaker 1: because you have to as a running back, you have
Speaker 1: to be able to bounce on my foot. You gotta
Speaker 1: be able to make cuts. So your big toe was
Speaker 1: just hurting. No, big toe ain't working. It's swollen, jammed up, ligaments, torn,
Speaker 1: all kind of stuff. Right. Turf toe is not like, oh,
Speaker 1: I hit my foot on the coffee table trying to
Speaker 1: trying to you know, get the remote. Turf toe is
Speaker 1: pretty much taking your phone and just having someone just
Speaker 1: smashing a bunch of time and so and and so.
Speaker 1: Now where your knuckle is and where you know, all
Speaker 1: of that everything in between your knuckle and your fingernail,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much Swiss sheets and swallow buff. Yeah. With
Speaker 1: that's your big toe, man, Like, listen, your calves, your hamstrings,
Speaker 1: you're you're blower back that right. That big toe is
Speaker 1: activating all that's it makes you lopside it right, everything,
Speaker 1: and then your compensate and then that, and then you
Speaker 1: compensate because now your left side has all of the work,
Speaker 1: and it's now doing the work of the left side
Speaker 1: and doing the work of the right side. So a conversation,
Speaker 1: now the left side gets overworked and it potentially start
Speaker 1: causes a strain. So now you gotta muscle strain on
Speaker 1: your left side. You got a non firing right side. Man,
Speaker 1: You you up, you up a creek without a pattern?
Speaker 1: Which is what? Which is? He eventually when I started,
Speaker 1: you know, experiencing Overcolm Satan from my toe. Um, but
Speaker 1: going back combine. Doug Williams passing on the hallway, he said, listen,
Speaker 1: if you fast, you're gonna run fast no matter what.
Speaker 1: Go out there and run. I don't care. I said,
Speaker 1: all right. So I called my agent. I said, look,
Speaker 1: I called. I saw Doug wung. He said, go out
Speaker 1: there and run. So Doug trump the agent. Well, my
Speaker 1: agent is like, well, if you feel comfortable, run, I'm
Speaker 1: like all right. So I went out there and ran.
Speaker 1: I did the vertical jump. I ran a four or
Speaker 1: four six so on on a jam on a turf
Speaker 1: toe turf to. I was run on the side of
Speaker 1: my foot and then I did the vertical jump, and
Speaker 1: I think it was like thirty seven and a half jammed.
Speaker 1: And so what what I realized though, is Doug was
Speaker 1: really telling me if you were a dog, you're a dog,
Speaker 1: go out there and this is your opportunity. And so
Speaker 1: I think that helped me in the long run absolutely
Speaker 1: for people fell in love with for me to go
Speaker 1: through what go through injury and to show what I had.
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in whatever you're going through, God's prepper, right,
Speaker 1: and so like I'm hurt, I've been hurt, I've gotten
Speaker 1: through it, I've been here and all those things. So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spend time, you know, focusing on what
Speaker 1: people are telling me that I'm not. I'm going to
Speaker 1: take that, you know, that advice that I got from
Speaker 1: Doug Williams improved to people what I am. Even though
Speaker 1: I am hurt, I'm still a dog. So just let
Speaker 1: me get healthy, right, And so that was my mindset.
Speaker 1: During the combine Pro day comes around at Oregon, I'm
Speaker 1: not even in the vicinity. I'm not even asked to
Speaker 1: come there. It felt weird, like like I was just
Speaker 1: almost kind of like forgotten, right, And then the Panthers
Speaker 1: take me off site to a hotel and I have
Speaker 1: a meeting with the Scott Scotting department. I didn't think
Speaker 1: nothing of it. Don Gregory besides one team that I
Speaker 1: didn't even meet at the combine, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: took me to the side and yeah whatever, like they
Speaker 1: checked on my my, you know, if I was rehabbing
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Um draft comes around.
Speaker 1: Sure enough, Carolina Panthers called me and I'm drafted. Go
Speaker 1: to O T A S. I didn't even go to
Speaker 1: like a ceremony or jersey hanging or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But because of my upbringing and the simple mindset that
Speaker 1: I had, my expectations were here, Okay from receiving anything,
Speaker 1: but I knew I had to work for whenever my
Speaker 1: time was coming, whenever I was able to get on
Speaker 1: the field, I had to be ready. And so O
Speaker 1: T A S. I show up. Now. I remember John Beeson,
Speaker 1: he was coming off of a surgery and all those
Speaker 1: types of things, like he had like a shoulder surgery
Speaker 1: or something. And you know, and because obviously I looked up,
Speaker 1: you know, players on the team and who is who,
Speaker 1: and you looked up guys. Yeah, damn, that was a dummy.
Speaker 1: I never looked at nobody, but like, but I just
Speaker 1: learned something. But it was my But I was excited.
Speaker 1: I knew I was coming to play football with Steve Smith,
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers, you know what I'm saying. Like, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this was and so John. But seeing John in his situation,
Speaker 1: it kind of like took a little bit of pressure
Speaker 1: off me knowing that here's a guy that was drafted
Speaker 1: first round that's hurt, he's rehabbing. This is how this
Speaker 1: thing goes. This is their off season. I have a
Speaker 1: little bit of time. I don't. I'm not immediately needed,
Speaker 1: that makes any sense. So I go back to college
Speaker 1: after O T A S. Finish up what I gotta
Speaker 1: do there, because in the league, you're not allowed to
Speaker 1: participate with the team out of college if your school
Speaker 1: within the quarter system, it's still in in session. Tried
Speaker 1: the same thing, and so go back and then I'm rehabing,
Speaker 1: um working out. I get back to training and then
Speaker 1: it's June. Rookies had the report early, so I reported
Speaker 1: stayed in holiday in and all that stuff or whatever
Speaker 1: training camp, and I was finally ready to practice and
Speaker 1: so defense was looking their chops. Thomas Davis. I remember
Speaker 1: getting hit in the backfield. Immediately, I thought that it
Speaker 1: was a a gap blitz from TV. He came off
Speaker 1: the edge. So that's how quick I got hit. I
Speaker 1: thought it was from the middle. He came off the edge,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, Okay, this football thing is
Speaker 1: really fast and they can hit, and I'm piste off
Speaker 1: right now. And the very next play, D'Angelo was supposed
Speaker 1: to come in and Skip. I looked at Skip. I
Speaker 1: was like mad, and he said, yeah, stay in there.
Speaker 1: And the very next player I just went crazy and
Speaker 1: started stiff farming people and just that's kind of how
Speaker 1: that went. And then so throughout training camp, you know,
Speaker 1: like watching how things were going and all that stuff
Speaker 1: with you know, the team, I started getting acclimated to
Speaker 1: the team, you know. And then preseasons going by. I
Speaker 1: missed the first preseason game, missed the second, the second
Speaker 1: preseason game, the third preseason game I think we played Philly.
Speaker 1: In Philly, I got in there on the very last
Speaker 1: drive I gotta carry. I got like a draw and
Speaker 1: it was just like in practice TV. I got hit immediately,
Speaker 1: and then Skip took me out. He said, no, get out.
Speaker 1: And I say that because it takes the right people
Speaker 1: right and I'll be cultural too. Yeah, And I call
Speaker 1: that like a grace moment for myself by having a
Speaker 1: coach that understood the situation. I'm in there with the
Speaker 1: third stringline. The following game, we played the Washington the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins washing football team. Back then it was a
Speaker 1: it was a Redskins. That's when things started to get
Speaker 1: real for me, right and slowing down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like I remember like pre game, I remember seeing Sean Springs.
Speaker 1: He was still playing. I'm like, hey, he's still playing,
Speaker 1: so like you know, Jason Taylor d then uh he
Speaker 1: was back there. Yeah, you got to see football life.
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not talking. He was with Washington,
Speaker 1: he said he was still yeah, but um And so
Speaker 1: then I had a I had a outside you know,
Speaker 1: zone play drawn up, followed Brad Hoover who and took
Speaker 1: it down the sideline. Scored. It felt easy. And I'm
Speaker 1: not easy, like like cloud, you know, just like like whatever.
Speaker 1: But it felt like feel like you knew. It felt
Speaker 1: like what I knew. It felt like I was in
Speaker 1: a zone. It felt like I belonged where I was
Speaker 1: no questions and Smitty was the first person in the
Speaker 1: end zone pick me up. I'm like, wow, this man
Speaker 1: is strong, right but obese was obese like I'm jump
Speaker 1: jump for me. But it was just like one of
Speaker 1: those moments where I was like, Okay, I can do
Speaker 1: this right and then but it still didn't really like
Speaker 1: I still didn't stop you doing. What do you mean
Speaker 1: you belong? How does a guy who's drafted over the
Speaker 1: first round, first round pick you got? According to our listeners,
Speaker 1: you got You're getting paid a king's ransom to play
Speaker 1: a child's game, and you're telling me after scoring a
Speaker 1: touchdown it took a touchdown. Not being drafted, not flying
Speaker 1: New York, not getting fitted for a suit, not getting
Speaker 1: put on first class from Washington all the way to Charlotte,
Speaker 1: not being picked up, not getting your locker, not signing
Speaker 1: the Kniche contract, not getting pick your jersey, not them
Speaker 1: fitting your helmet in your head, not for you eating
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria, and and Julius Peppers walks past you.
Speaker 1: Not any of that made you feel like you belong
Speaker 1: until you hit a touchdown. How I mean my expectations right,
Speaker 1: you know, My expectations weren't settling for getting the helmet
Speaker 1: or getting a jersey. You know, I remember you firsthand
Speaker 1: in jersey gonna be replaced unless you do something great, right,
Speaker 1: So my expectations was, I want to prove to myself
Speaker 1: that I belong here because I just came from a
Speaker 1: real recovery and a lot of you know, side questions
Speaker 1: as far as is he gonna be okay, is he
Speaker 1: gonna be ready, and all these things, and now I
Speaker 1: had an opportunity where I was successful in the beginning
Speaker 1: stages of me feeling like I belong you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so, and then everything else added to it,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, that was the beginning stage. I would say.
Speaker 1: Monday Night football, my rookie year was the who played
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mine and Night football home game,
Speaker 1: And that was the moment where it clicked for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when when me and with me and D'Angelo went him.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that was that was I left my
Speaker 1: grandpa passed. Yeah, oh yeah, I remember. I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was right after things given right, Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: a that's just amazing, right, Like the realness of what
Speaker 1: actually transpires behind the lens, right, But what people go through,
Speaker 1: like we out here performing and doing all these things
Speaker 1: and living our dream in life and real life is happening.
Speaker 1: How do you keep football the focus? Then? My injuries
Speaker 1: is what kept me focused because if it was if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for me that feeling great in the mornings
Speaker 1: or feeling great for practice or feeling great in the
Speaker 1: morning of the game, I wouldn't have had that focus
Speaker 1: to maintain and to get to the point to where
Speaker 1: I can actually perform. And so me being injured required
Speaker 1: me to focus on my injury. What does this mean
Speaker 1: that I can't move my ankle the way I used to?
Speaker 1: You know, what do I need to do? Right? And
Speaker 1: not getting the answers right up front, and having to
Speaker 1: search and having to wait and having to to figure
Speaker 1: it out and be played mind games by the staff
Speaker 1: at times, right, because that's just how Football League like
Speaker 1: it it. It pretty much stimulated me to just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have this thing that I've been blessed with, how
Speaker 1: can how am I supposed to be the steward of this? Right?
Speaker 1: And and so you look at my rookie year, you know,
Speaker 1: I went through what I went through, bounce back whatever,
Speaker 1: get on the playing field, start zone and start getting
Speaker 1: in the zone. Get an ankle injury? Oh man, how
Speaker 1: am I supposed to recover from this? What ever? So
Speaker 1: it's just a continuous, you know, time of just being
Speaker 1: stimulated by injury, knowing that I have to be on
Speaker 1: the field. So my mind was, I want to go
Speaker 1: and play music. I want to go home and just
Speaker 1: edge out and play video games. I want to go
Speaker 1: and hang out and enjoy the fruits of you know,
Speaker 1: the labor that I've been you know having, Right, I
Speaker 1: think year three it all clicked in the sense of mind, body, spirit,
Speaker 1: right three things. Everybody talks about it. But for me,
Speaker 1: like if my body wasn't where it needed to be,
Speaker 1: that means spiritually and mentally, I needed to be on
Speaker 1: my a game because if my spiritual sense wasn't right,
Speaker 1: I ain't got no ey I'm up a creek without
Speaker 1: a path right. Mentally, I gotta be where wherever I am. Mentally,
Speaker 1: if I'm not there spiritually, my mentals are gonna be
Speaker 1: a whole different path. So how did you get there?
Speaker 1: Then you have to put in the work. Just like
Speaker 1: you train your body, you work out just like you,
Speaker 1: I want to be the best football player. You go
Speaker 1: out there and catch balls and you run and you
Speaker 1: do your agilly cluts and all that. Right. Mentally, right,
Speaker 1: you have to stay sharp. So how do what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you do? What are you doing to to
Speaker 1: stay sharp to where you're not feeling the pressure? What
Speaker 1: did you do not knowing? What did you do? You study? Study?
Speaker 1: So whenever you study your opponents, you go through your
Speaker 1: When I'm not practicing right, when I'm not not But
Speaker 1: but whenever, whenever you're not doing what you were, what
Speaker 1: you feel like you're supposed to be doing, you gotta
Speaker 1: mentally grasp that right. So you gotta envision yourself doing
Speaker 1: that thing. So playing football, I'm not playing football. I
Speaker 1: need to visualize that and stay on the game plans
Speaker 1: and stay in the classroom and actually take notes, like
Speaker 1: I'm taking notes for the first time about the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. We played them the first time, but I'm
Speaker 1: I know exactly who's who, but I still gotta take
Speaker 1: notes and put things down and drop them down as
Speaker 1: if there's as if it's the first time me seeing
Speaker 1: it and experiencing it, So that way I stay fresh
Speaker 1: and still I stay sharp because part of the mental
Speaker 1: thing is I ain't got it no more. I probably
Speaker 1: gonna be able to have it when I'm back, or
Speaker 1: am I gonna be ready? You know, being uncertain because
Speaker 1: you haven't been on the football field for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks now, So are you telling me? As you
Speaker 1: are processing getting ready on the field, you're also honing
Speaker 1: in and learning how you learn how you can consume
Speaker 1: information and hold it and it would be part of
Speaker 1: making you good at your crime. Good do it, good,
Speaker 1: do it. Let's get down to do it good. Hey Gerard,
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Speaker 1: buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. I'm gonna go across the table and
Speaker 1: go to the to the vet. When he came on board,
Speaker 1: what was your thoughts and theory when he stepped on
Speaker 1: the field and he started coming in, what do you
Speaker 1: guys think about him? Well, he researched who he was
Speaker 1: playing with, and I would see the film of the
Speaker 1: new guys they brought in that were offensive guys, so
Speaker 1: I knew he could play. I didn't know to this
Speaker 1: depth what he was going through because I never asked.
Speaker 1: I just we just became friends. And so while we
Speaker 1: sat on the side or we were watching defense be
Speaker 1: serviced by scout team offense, we would talk and he
Speaker 1: would ask me little questions that let me know one
Speaker 1: that he was safe. He wasn't a snitch, right, did
Speaker 1: you know that? I mean I knew I wasn't snitch.
Speaker 1: I knew that, but you know, he was feeling you
Speaker 1: out kind of scene were you think. I think anyone
Speaker 1: that talks to Smitty knows that Smitty's educated about who
Speaker 1: he's messing. It's always a purpose. I think that's a
Speaker 1: I mean, I think from day one I knew exactly
Speaker 1: who Smitty was, you know what I'm saying. And to me,
Speaker 1: it was it was safe knowing that we had a
Speaker 1: guy like Smothy on my team, because it was like, well,
Speaker 1: if there's blood in the water, we don't want it, Okay,
Speaker 1: get it out. It was really the mentality that I
Speaker 1: kind of felt from him, and that's something that can
Speaker 1: be carried over, not just on football. But life right,
Speaker 1: your friendships, your family, like, protect your interest, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, your finances, like if there's blood in
Speaker 1: the water, it's got to go. I was, it wasn't
Speaker 1: on team. I was torn Achilles, but I worked the game.
Speaker 1: You got the Carolina Panthers play Denver Broncos. But you
Speaker 1: go back before I was released that year leading up
Speaker 1: in to it, nobody's I've never talked about this. We
Speaker 1: had a player's only meeting after practice. That's when Dave
Speaker 1: Gentleman was there. We had Drake Florence. That's when we started.
Speaker 1: Oh and we oh when two and three? Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: this is yeah, this was that last year and I
Speaker 1: had We were already on three. They were already talking
Speaker 1: about problems. Jonathan uh John Beason got traded. Gettleman was
Speaker 1: already starting ruffle feathers. Right. I told the coaches go
Speaker 1: out how the players only meeting on practice? And did
Speaker 1: I not call it? I pointed out to every veteran
Speaker 1: and asked those veterans, in front of other veterans, you
Speaker 1: play on be here next year. Jordan's what did Jordan's say?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Drake Flawence, you're playing don't be here
Speaker 1: now and not really, and you think you're gonna be here, No,
Speaker 1: not really. And I said, I know, damn well, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be here next year, did I not? I said, So,
Speaker 1: we got two choices, you know, I like giving choices.
Speaker 1: We got two choices. We can go ahead and keep
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing. We can start taking the ship
Speaker 1: of this fucking team and start winning because they're gonna
Speaker 1: get credit, but we gotta do it. And so from
Speaker 1: that moment on and we end up having a pretty
Speaker 1: good season. That's when we lost to uh to Seattle.
Speaker 1: And you know what people didn't know is you know
Speaker 1: at that time, that's what you know on my on
Speaker 1: uh my truth. That's when the whole trade stuff that
Speaker 1: my agent worked out. When I decided at that time
Speaker 1: was I gonna stay or go? And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, if I'm I'm gonna stay, I gotta just
Speaker 1: stay and I gotta work it out. We gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta get it going. There's so many things that happened
Speaker 1: in the football season that is such a check of
Speaker 1: reality for players. And what you see now in the
Speaker 1: NFL with a lot of these teams that are successful
Speaker 1: or the middle of the road. The teams that are
Speaker 1: in the middle of the row around this time, they're
Speaker 1: in the fourking a row and they either figured out
Speaker 1: as send or s damn tumbleweeds. And it doesn't get better.
Speaker 1: It actually kids worse. Hints the Carolina Panthers right now,
Speaker 1: they're in a fourking a row and it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like they can get out out from under themselves. So
Speaker 1: what would say is your greatest accomplishment as a Panther?
Speaker 1: Don't look at me. I wouldn't help me. What is
Speaker 1: you as a Carolina Um? I mean obviously for me
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Right, we didn't win, and I spent
Speaker 1: a year just being better about it. You did, But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like I got something
Speaker 1: out of it. I scored our only touchdown on a
Speaker 1: broke foot and that means a lot to me, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, adversity overcame adversity to get to a
Speaker 1: stage that men dream of, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And getting a chance to play on the Super Bowl, No,
Speaker 1: I would never look back at that again and just
Speaker 1: have a bitter taste in my mouth. Ain't nothing I
Speaker 1: can do about it, right, played in it lost. Score touchdown, Hey,
Speaker 1: score touchdown? Thanks. Um. So I think that to me,
Speaker 1: as far as my football career, that would that would
Speaker 1: be the highlight. So that game, that moment, even in
Speaker 1: a loss, out of all the records you have for
Speaker 1: the Panthers, meant more to you than those numbers that
Speaker 1: are in a book somewhere. You know. One of the
Speaker 1: things I learned about myself being retired is you know,
Speaker 1: I hear you, oh, you know, especially every year the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame speeches and all that stuff, and like
Speaker 1: listening to the guys talk like they were like the
Speaker 1: ultimate competitor. You know, they take a little bit different
Speaker 1: that got them, you know, whatever that was like, and
Speaker 1: you hear all these stories and like, man, like I
Speaker 1: played football, I played it well, but like, competing wasn't
Speaker 1: my ultimate drive, right, Um, it was a piece of it.
Speaker 1: But what I what I did learn was is that
Speaker 1: I'm a convicted competitor. What do you mean by it?
Speaker 1: So if you convince me that if you do ABC
Speaker 1: and D and you will get E, and I believe
Speaker 1: in that E, I'm gonna do everything that I can
Speaker 1: possible to get to that E. And I'm help you.
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean by being a convicted competitor.
Speaker 1: I'm convinced. I believe in the end goal. I believe
Speaker 1: in the team that I have that I'm on, that's
Speaker 1: a part of my circle, like whatever it is. I
Speaker 1: believe in my family, like I believe in my friendships
Speaker 1: like and that to me is who I am to
Speaker 1: the core, Like my loyalty is to that, to that thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, Coach Skipp always tell us just to
Speaker 1: keep us in check. You know, only loyalty in this
Speaker 1: game is the paycheck. That's it, right, And that was
Speaker 1: always to remind us that this is a business and
Speaker 1: that you can be out of here tomorrow. And so
Speaker 1: to me, you know, that's what what that's what my
Speaker 1: core was is. I am convinced that me going out
Speaker 1: there running my head into another helmet, it's gonna help
Speaker 1: us get to the super Bowl. That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: So if Skip would have told me that, in my
Speaker 1: mind and my heart, I would have disagreed and also
Speaker 1: said for me to get another check from another team,
Speaker 1: all I gotta do is just do my job. Do
Speaker 1: my work at is at the core of who I
Speaker 1: believe I could be, which is one of the best.
Speaker 1: So when they get tired of me, I'm not stressed.
Speaker 1: I'm just actually waiting to see who do I get
Speaker 1: to choose from from calling m I went to work
Speaker 1: not feared of getting cut underwork wortch do me a favor,
Speaker 1: literally cut me and watch what I do. That's what
Speaker 1: I like. Hey, going to work, I'm here. Do you
Speaker 1: want me here? It's a serious question, but there's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot. Like he said, they're crazy, you know.
Speaker 1: Hearing what you said, I think younger me, I would
Speaker 1: have took offense to me. Convince you. You need to
Speaker 1: be convinced for which you sign up for this for.
Speaker 1: We got to convince you asked to show up right
Speaker 1: this old me, this is what I would and I would.
Speaker 1: Look what so you're telling me, I'm going across the middle,
Speaker 1: about to get knocked out for the better cause, and
Speaker 1: and me getting knocked out is convincing you to go
Speaker 1: hard to alright, and just having that degree of separation
Speaker 1: between the drive of all those people, and that's where
Speaker 1: and that's where it goes full back to full circle,
Speaker 1: back to that's why everybody aren't friends, That's why everybody
Speaker 1: on the team is a friends because of are different
Speaker 1: perspectives of how they see this game in which we
Speaker 1: all have said we need because that's what you know.
Speaker 1: We we all to some degree, some of us higher
Speaker 1: drives and lower drives or different agendas. So, man, I
Speaker 1: need ball. I want to go to the league. But
Speaker 1: to be convinced, you know, that's not really convinced. No,
Speaker 1: But I'm just going in my mind hearing that and
Speaker 1: knowing and knowing you as a friend and also makes
Speaker 1: it connect. Some dots were like, oh, I get it,
Speaker 1: but you need to convince it because you hit so
Speaker 1: much adversity day one, right to start in this process.
Speaker 1: But so did I, so did the next person. I
Speaker 1: mean I heading into my senior year, I had a
Speaker 1: C four verst fracture. I broke. I almost completely broke
Speaker 1: my C four vertebrate in my neck. All right, So
Speaker 1: we all have or the guy that that that you know,
Speaker 1: who was it Jlen Smith that you know with the
Speaker 1: with the with what he used to play with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: that who was a dominant linebacker Notre Dame, who had
Speaker 1: dropped foot right nerve damage. Yeah, you know, to to
Speaker 1: what he experienced and to be willing to go out
Speaker 1: on a limb and also say, hey, I may fail
Speaker 1: that brother would convinced that boy was dedicated. And I
Speaker 1: would say and and I would say, like my convinced
Speaker 1: the convicted competitors. Since is it's not like, oh, today
Speaker 1: you gotta convince me. It's like it sounds like it's
Speaker 1: an internal because in turn off from day one football,
Speaker 1: I believe in that. I believe you got faith faith
Speaker 1: in it. I believe in and being a better teammate
Speaker 1: from my teammates so that way they can be the
Speaker 1: best that can be. I believe in playing physical and
Speaker 1: and putting put my foot down and run some body
Speaker 1: over because I know that's going to excite the defense.
Speaker 1: I know that's going to excite the people blocking from me.
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to give a whole different type
Speaker 1: of energy. Just talk about excitement, I'll give you friendship wise,
Speaker 1: I give you full transparency. You're talking about running through people,
Speaker 1: exciting your teammates. What were some of the unique things
Speaker 1: that I did as a football player. You're being a
Speaker 1: teammate playing offense or because I know there's some story
Speaker 1: I heard you were with with Nate and y'all talked
Speaker 1: telling some stories about guys. I went against um in
Speaker 1: the way I treated him for no reason. So because
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, Steve was, Steve was tough or
Speaker 1: he was intense. Man, that's a nice word. I was
Speaker 1: an assholesome. Yes, smitty Smitty was, Go ahead, do you
Speaker 1: Smithy was? He was a shark in the water at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, right, blood in the water
Speaker 1: goes back to that. If there's blood in the water,
Speaker 1: you're gonna find it and you're don't get rid of it.
Speaker 1: On the field, he sends his blood. Oh that's the
Speaker 1: guy him. He's weak. He says all these things, but
Speaker 1: he has no chance. What was that, Minnesota? Don't do that?
Speaker 1: Give an actual It's very rare as he gives. There's
Speaker 1: some stories of the Patriots. No, there's some stories because
Speaker 1: he gets mad the individually you're talking about, and he
Speaker 1: has a pocket. He gets mad and starts and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay out of that because I'm I'm grown up, Steve.
Speaker 1: Grown up, Steve ain't I'm chilling how about that? But
Speaker 1: I would say, man, Steve would line up, and really
Speaker 1: I don't think he I don't even think he really
Speaker 1: intentionally did this, Like in his mind said before the game,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out here. I'm gonna embarrassed this guy.
Speaker 1: Steve turned into Stephen for a better word. When when
Speaker 1: that when the ball snapped? Like what they elaborate? What
Speaker 1: do you mean? I just mean it turned into Tasmanian
Speaker 1: devil running a receiver's route, catching a receipt, catching a ball,
Speaker 1: and then turning into an m M A fight on
Speaker 1: whoever is you're playing against. And then you add in
Speaker 1: the post games. As far as what's being said, it's
Speaker 1: like almost watching w c W as far as what's
Speaker 1: coming out of this man now, Like like, what did
Speaker 1: you tell numbers? Whatever his number was? I was telling
Speaker 1: the rules to the game. Oh well, what what are
Speaker 1: the rules to the game? Eight? Nine? Jesus? I love
Speaker 1: your eight nine? So what's heard this nine? What does
Speaker 1: that mean? I heard the story that they said. They said,
Speaker 1: I was. I was beaten. I was killing some dB
Speaker 1: that you went to school with and you knew and
Speaker 1: they were and I was just I was just on
Speaker 1: one in the hub like this mother. And they said
Speaker 1: they went and asked the dB like gonna run the place? Like, bro,
Speaker 1: what did you say to Smitty DV? Was like I
Speaker 1: didn't say anything. I know what's wrong with Like, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: you should have not played like legit like he I
Speaker 1: don't think he he smitty waits up, has his Bible.
Speaker 1: We go to church. I used to drive, and so
Speaker 1: we go to what was going elevation. We would go
Speaker 1: to the downtown campus and get you know, get get
Speaker 1: my Lord d before before the molly wapping. But it
Speaker 1: would be worse if he didn't go to church, be
Speaker 1: worse off the rid, if he ain't got the word
Speaker 1: of the worse. Okay, the word of God said a
Speaker 1: lot of these dbs. Last prayer has blessed y'all. Your
Speaker 1: careers didn't end as abrupt as it could have because
Speaker 1: this man knows the Lord. But like I think like that,
Speaker 1: But we fed off that because we knew that we
Speaker 1: was gonna get that, and we knew that it was authentic,
Speaker 1: and we knew that he wasn't even planning on any
Speaker 1: of it. But he is still his in his preparation,
Speaker 1: in his mindset. We knew and saw that we can
Speaker 1: expect that out of him. But I don't even think that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes after games, I think he sits back and says, wow,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there were times where I I knew, in question,
Speaker 1: how long can I keep this up right, write nothing?
Speaker 1: Or the fear of letting down my teammates right, or
Speaker 1: you need that play and I know this play is
Speaker 1: coming to me, or what kind of defense are they
Speaker 1: gonna play? Be able to process that? It's tough, it formulations,
Speaker 1: performance anxiety like times fifty. Well as his teammates, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you always knew you to get one out of him,
Speaker 1: no matter what, every play, every down, whether he was blocking, catching,
Speaker 1: he was yeah, oh yeah. There's a couple of videos
Speaker 1: that we ran back. You know, we're not gonna name
Speaker 1: anybody but Miller. That that's the when that Von Miller
Speaker 1: became Von Miller probably after that hit was a great
Speaker 1: but no, I say, Von is a good dude and
Speaker 1: a good dude in which you know that play Just
Speaker 1: you try watching my guys back. It was it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It was all curls and he was in
Speaker 1: the flat and um, they ran his zone. I was
Speaker 1: also going to get Champ didn't have a chance. So
Speaker 1: I ran that curl and Champ ran that curl with me,
Speaker 1: and then Camp throws a checkdown and so I can't
Speaker 1: you know, I got a contribute. I'm still expected to
Speaker 1: do my part. And if you just gotta crack back,
Speaker 1: don't matter who it is, that be a fine. Now,
Speaker 1: I was just about to say it would be a fine.
Speaker 1: An appendance would have got that fat what they do
Speaker 1: they always yeah you got some. I'm thinking I hit
Speaker 1: on stock and it's a fine. Listen by the time,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know they're coming that fat You
Speaker 1: get that fat X on that chair. Yeah you got that? Well, man,
Speaker 1: it's been awesome, man, it's been good to chit chat man. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 1: We just really appreciate your time and I appreciate our
Speaker 1: friendship always. You are a unique person. You are well
Speaker 1: worth it, you are competent, and most of all, your lovable.
Speaker 1: I'm Steve smith Singer, I'm Gerard Little John and this
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