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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nolan.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Facin. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here despite everything, and that makes

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Speaker 3: are recorded on well, January twenty first, January twenty second,

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Speaker 3: weekly listener mail segment the evening it publishes, welcome to Thursday,

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Speaker 6: You know that reminds me of it. It reminds me of

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Speaker 6: like Nerdy pimple Kid and the Simpsons who works at

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Speaker 6: the drive in the drive through. You know, I've been

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Speaker 6: on a deep Simpsons rewatch lately, and some of those

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Speaker 6: then look over at Simpson's and there'll be a laugh

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Speaker 6: by the way, but your your Simpson's caliber voice acting Dylan,

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Speaker 3: Perfect Dylan, the Tennessee peal Faga ladies and gentleman. Alsollian

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Speaker 3: some recent uh some recent news as of a few

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Speaker 3: will uh, this will hopefully fascinate all of our fellow

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Speaker 3: Simpsons stands. Boots Riley is making a a off off

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Speaker 3: off Broadway, dark post apocalyptic stage play of a Simpsons episode.

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Speaker 3: And if you look at it, it's like Comedia del arte. Yes,

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Speaker 3: the mask and everything. I cannot wait, paper mache vibes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's He's a Riley for sure. And we are

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Speaker 2: And we've returned everyone. As we are recording this on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: January twenty first, at one twenty three pm, we are

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Speaker 2: currently awaiting a winter storm that's rolling through all of

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Speaker 3: That Ghostbuster sequel, what is it? The Ice Kingdom, After Life,

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Speaker 3: From Life and a couple of other things. I didn't

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Speaker 6: I tried a lot of flack from making fun of

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Speaker 2: Again. I'm look s and O, I love you I'm

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Speaker 2: literally there every week now for the Cold Open and

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Speaker 2: Actually it's it's no offense to the writing or the acting.

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Speaker 2: Shrimp Josh Well, well, I love every single one of them,

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Speaker 3: you know. It's funny. I was talking about my Simpsons.

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Speaker 6: You watch of late and I just had it on

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Speaker 2: But you also had George, you know, Bush being mocked. Well,

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Speaker 6: hey you got me zing, and they're not like trying

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Speaker 3: that is the Simpsons cameos were just phenomenal, became such

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Speaker 3: Like who else could get Michael Jackson, Homer Palooza, You

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank Zappa hosted SNL and we are going to

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Speaker 2: jump to a message from Dale that regards mister Zappa.

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Speaker 5: Hi guys, this is Dale from Maryland. Been intrigued by

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Speaker 5: your Rudabake interludes over the last several years. Just curious

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Speaker 5: the Mothers of an invention song called call any Vegetable,

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Speaker 5: First appeared on his leave his second album called Absolutely Free,

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Speaker 5: maybe you want to play this little section of Rude

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Speaker 5: Beaga on your show. Thanks and love the show. Been

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Speaker 5: listening for years and years. Don't even know how long,

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Speaker 5: so long, have a good day?

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Speaker 3: Thanks?

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Speaker 5: By yeah?

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Speaker 2: You guys got it. I've got it queued up. So

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Speaker 2: we've got call any Vegetable from the Mothers of Invention

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Speaker 2: absolutely free from nineteen sixty seven, eleven years before Zappa

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Speaker 2: hosted SNL for the one and only time. I believe

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Speaker 2: it's from Verb Records again. The title is called any Vegetable.

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Speaker 2: We're starting at fifty three seconds into a very short song.

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Speaker 2: a heartwarming story coming to us from Mert. The story

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Speaker 7: Hey, Matt Man Noel, my name is Mert.

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Speaker 2: Uh it is it looks like flowers to me, and

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Speaker 3: Outsider art.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it wouldn't be a news story, right unless something

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Speaker 3: Happened, right, And I've been looking. I'm looking at this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the news because he was charged with

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Speaker 6: Also to have some graffiti zones, like in the Crog

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Speaker 6: US of A. Hey, guys, EJW writes, are you all

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Speaker 6: familiar with the recent C three passed in Canada? On

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Speaker 6: June fifth, twenty twenty five, the government introduced Bill C three,

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Speaker 6: an act to amend the Citizenship Act to extend citizenship

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Speaker 6: by dissent beyond the first generation in a way that

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Speaker 6: is more inclusive and protects the value of Canadian citizenship.

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Speaker 6: The bill received royal assent on November.

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Speaker 3: This is a very.

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Speaker 6: Interesting parliamentary procedure in Canada. Don't know about royal assent

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Speaker 6: to look that one up on November twentieth, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 6: and came into effect on December fifteenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: That means the IRCC had to look this up real

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Speaker 3: quick online.

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Speaker 6: That is the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, which is

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Speaker 6: the governmental agency that oversees matters pertaining to immigration and citizenship, refugees,

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Speaker 6: Canadian citizenship, all of that type of stuff. That means

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Speaker 6: the IRCC now recognizes new eligible citizens and is applying

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Speaker 6: the new rules for passing citizenship on going forward. This

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Speaker 6: doesn't seem like a lot of fanfare, but it's huge.

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Speaker 6: Do you at any point have an ancestor who was

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Speaker 6: born in Canada, then congratulations friend. As of fifteen December

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty five, you are now officially Canadian. Might be

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Speaker 6: oversimplifying just to touch I think there's definitely some processes

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Speaker 6: you still got to go through.

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Speaker 3: But it is a big deal, and that was me

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Speaker 3: editorializing there. Oh it's a huge deal. EJW. This is great.

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Speaker 3: It can't be understated.

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Speaker 6: I agree, wrapping up their email. I'm actually writing this

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Speaker 6: sitting outside a local city hall to inquire about birth certificates.

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Speaker 6: As Ben says, history is closer than it looks in

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Speaker 6: the rearview mirror, to apply for my citizenship certificate, partially

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Speaker 6: for personal reasons I'm the only one in my house

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Speaker 6: without a Canadian passport, but also with sh TF here

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Speaker 6: as a backup plan, doing a cursory Google love that acronym,

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Speaker 6: and there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly thank you, Matt. I'm a big ding dong.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was another Canadian agency.

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Speaker 6: I think that's what we talked about at the top,

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Speaker 6: looking for exit strategies, right, like, yes, SHTF got it.

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Speaker 3: Things go in foo bar.

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Speaker 6: As they say, uh, looking for a backup plan, exit strategy, etc.

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Speaker 6: And we're listening to just this episode on the way here.

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Speaker 6: Could it be the timing of this bill is to

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Speaker 6: try and bring some of the man this fellow loves

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Speaker 6: an acronym canis diaspora back home.

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Speaker 7: Ben.

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Speaker 3: I think you might have an idea of what he's

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Speaker 3: referred to there. Yeah, Cato in US kind of a

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Speaker 3: portmanteau of just Canadian US people who have emigrated or

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Speaker 3: moved abroad and you know, formed communities or new lives

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Speaker 3: in other countries. Got it?

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Speaker 2: So it does?

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Speaker 6: It does seem like the timing is very interesting, CJW.

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Speaker 6: EJW rather posits Probably not, but it is an interesting coincidence.

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Speaker 6: I might argue there are no coincidences, but of course

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Speaker 6: there are sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for all you'll do.

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Speaker 6: You're pretty much my full time road companions, along with

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Speaker 6: Josh and Chuck and old Robert Evans. In such great

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Speaker 6: company here, thanks, EJW. And I feel like we need

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Speaker 6: more of the critical thinking you promote in society. Feel

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Speaker 6: free to reply, use on air, et cetera. Best EJW.

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Speaker 6: What do you think you'all? This seems like the antithesis

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Speaker 6: to what we're seeing with a lot of immigration policies,

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Speaker 6: which is to lock things down and exclude rather than

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Speaker 6: include what it is.

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Speaker 2: Just Canadian born folks right that it's affecting or somebody

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Speaker 2: within the line that was Canadian.

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Speaker 3: Is someone who has who has descended from or has

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Speaker 3: a recent ancestor of Canadian heritage. EJW. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Hope you staying war and safe

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Speaker 3: in Canada. We've got we've got a lot of a

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Speaker 3: lot of interesting threads to pull here, to connect Pepe

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Speaker 3: Sylvia style. Because Noel, you and I were talking on

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Speaker 3: a fair little bit about how this harkens back to

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Speaker 3: it leaves a little bit closer to something like Ireland's

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Speaker 3: longstanding immigration or citizenship policy. You can prove, you know

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Speaker 3: that you have a grandparent who was born in the

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Speaker 3: Old Country, then it's much easier for you to acquire

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Speaker 3: citizenship in Ireland. And it's also interesting EJW. As you

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Speaker 3: doubtlessly know, given that there has been of late, there's

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Speaker 3: been a strong anti immigration push in certain demographics in Canada,

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Speaker 3: and part of that is due to controversies surrounding the

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Speaker 3: usage of some types of vises, and another part of

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Speaker 3: that is, you know, a natural outgrowth of the fear

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Speaker 3: that comes when an economy tanks and housing becomes unaffordable

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Speaker 3: and so on. But overall, for now, this seems like

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Speaker 3: a very promising, very positive move, especially because a lot

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Speaker 3: of people in the US have no idea how difficult

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Speaker 3: it is to really start a life in a different

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Speaker 3: country well for sure.

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Speaker 6: And also lest you fall into the category that I

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Speaker 6: was once a member of, where you think of our

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Speaker 6: neighbors to the north as just all you know, gentle

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Speaker 6: sunshine and rainbows, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, potheads or something.

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Speaker 6: There's definitely some Canada for Canadians mentality over there as well.

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Speaker 6: There's certainly a string of racism and isolationism and that

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Speaker 6: kind of othering over there. No one is immune to

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Speaker 6: this kind of thing, is what I'm getting at. Let's

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Speaker 6: just go through a couple of points from Canada dot

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Speaker 6: ca A. I believe that's the official website of Canada

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Speaker 6: that talks a little bit about what this means. It

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Speaker 6: says here the IRCC now recognizes new eligible citizens and

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Speaker 6: is applying the new rules for passing citizenship on going

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Speaker 6: forward with the coming into effect of this bill, People

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Speaker 6: who automatically became Canadian citizens under the new law can

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Speaker 6: apply to get proof of Canadian citizenship.

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Speaker 3: People adopted abroad.

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Speaker 6: Before December fifteenth, twenty twenty five by a Canadian parent,

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Speaker 6: born or adopted a broad can apply for Canadian citizenship

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Speaker 6: for an adopted child. People born or adopted abroad honor

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Speaker 6: after December fifteenth to Canadian parent also born or adopted

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Speaker 6: abroad must demonstrate their Canadian parent has spent three years

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Speaker 6: in Canada when applying for proof Canadian citizenship and applying

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Speaker 6: for Canadian citizenship for an adopted child. People born before

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Speaker 6: September fifteenth who automatically became Canadian citizens under the new

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Speaker 6: law and were not previously granted citizenship and who now

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Speaker 6: want to give up renounce Canadian citizenship can apply through

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Speaker 6: a simplified renunciation process, and then they refer to the

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Speaker 6: term lost Canadians, which I think is interesting, which is

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Speaker 6: a term referring to people who lost or never obtained

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Speaker 6: citizenship because of certain outdated rules in earlier citizenship laws.

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Speaker 6: Reading from this page on the Canada site. Most cases

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Speaker 6: were resolved through legislative changes in twenty nine and twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 6: which restored or gave citizenship to about twenty thousand people. However,

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Speaker 6: some people remained excluded, including Section eight Lost Canadians and

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Speaker 6: descendants of Lost Canadians. Bill C three extends access to

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Speaker 6: citizenship to these remaining lost Canadians, their descendants, and those

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Speaker 6: born abroad to or adopted abroad by a Canadian parent

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Speaker 6: in the second or later generation before the new law

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Speaker 6: came into effect.

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Speaker 3: I yield. We should keep in mind, folks, this is

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Speaker 3: a big positive step forward. Typically this is also going

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Speaker 3: to include some coveats that are treated as givens, like

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Speaker 3: you can't be a war criminal, you can't have committed

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Speaker 3: serious felonies in your current country of residents. Right, just

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Speaker 3: needs to be said.

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Speaker 2: Aloud, Well, that's awesome, EJW. We wish you the best

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Speaker 2: when it comes to gaining that citizenship and passport that

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Speaker 2: you were looking for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: And I think this set segment would stay a little

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Speaker 6: on the shorter side, but I thought this was a

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Speaker 6: great piece of correspondence and people ought to know that

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Speaker 6: this is something you might want to look into. Maybe

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Speaker 6: check out that ancestry dot com account again, if you

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Speaker 6: haven't looked at it in a hot minute. We'll take

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Speaker 6: a quick break now and then be back with more

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Speaker 6: messages from you.

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Speaker 3: And we have returned. I'm gonna do something a little

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Speaker 3: bit different here, and I'm hoping we can we can

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Speaker 3: discuss something that might get people's dander up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Uh political converse or geopolitical conversation inspired by none other

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Speaker 3: than our returning guest, Give it up for folks, brocknest Monster.

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Speaker 3: This is something we wanted to discuss in depth, maybe

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Speaker 3: in an episode. But here's what you wrote to us.

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Speaker 2: Brock.

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Speaker 3: You said, so Trump, meaning Donald Trump, the current US president,

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Speaker 3: wants nations to pay one billion US dollars to join

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Speaker 3: his peace board? Is it one enormous country club? Does

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump want to turn Earth into Mara Lago? Brock?

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Speaker 3: And then Brock, you, first off, thank you always an

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Speaker 3: excellent writer. To us. Brock, you include an article from

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Speaker 3: Reuters on January eighteenth, twenty twenty six, before we dive

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Speaker 3: into it. I believe we've all heard about this peace

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Speaker 3: board pitch. Is that correct? I did hear?

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Speaker 6: The headline that I read was that Trump was inviting

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Speaker 6: Putin to join?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, And I mean if you study truth and

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Speaker 3: reconciliation stuff throughout most modern history yet that at some

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Speaker 3: point people who are former enemies do have to find

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Speaker 3: some way for dialogue. And sheesh. We all know that

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Speaker 3: current world governments have tried with things like the League

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Speaker 3: of Nations, the United Nations, the G seven, the G eight,

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Speaker 3: the G whatever. They just kept adding numbers, right, even

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Speaker 3: NATO to an extent, Even NATO to an extent, required

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Speaker 3: some European countries to put aside deep historical beefs and

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Speaker 3: differences in the idea of securing better chances for continental peace. Right,

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Speaker 3: And it was also entirely still those folks say, hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: we know we don't always get alog and sorry about

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Speaker 3: those many bloody wars throughout those very centuries, but we

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Speaker 3: can bond because we don't like Russia. Right, So our

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Speaker 3: dislike and fear of that place is bigger than our

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Speaker 3: dislike and fear of each other, which how a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff happens. So this Board of Peace is not

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Speaker 3: is not inherently a bad thing if it's what if

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Speaker 3: it's what it's supposed to be or what it's being

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Speaker 3: pitched as. But a lot of people have a problem

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Speaker 3: with this because because of some of the nations that

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Speaker 3: are joining, and because of the statements requiring a price tag,

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Speaker 3: a literal price tag. You don't have to necessarily pay

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Speaker 3: to be recognized as a country by the United Nations,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't this something directly tied to Gaza when it

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Speaker 2: was first pitched and it's like has a wider scope.

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, the board was The Board of Peace was

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Speaker 3: originally pitched as helping end the two year war between

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Speaker 3: Israel and Hamas in Gaza, and it was advertised as

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Speaker 3: an institution that would oversee reconstruction. So, as we record,

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, January twenty first, a bunch of countries in

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Speaker 3: the area have agreed to join the Board of Peace.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how much each has individually paid, but

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Speaker 3: so far the breaking news is Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia,

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Speaker 3: Pakistan and cutter have recently joined. The other nations have

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Speaker 3: agreed to joiner Bahrain, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belodous, Hungary, Kazakhstan,

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Speaker 3: Morocco and Vietnam.

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Speaker 6: So more a ministry of truth kind of situation. It's

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Speaker 6: like the opposite is actually what it means.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know. It's strange he invited or

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Speaker 3: the administration invited the Vatican as well. But this is

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Speaker 3: my question for you guys. Do we trust it? Is

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Speaker 3: it like a good idea coming from a person that

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Speaker 3: a lot of people don't like, or is it a grift?

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Speaker 2: I remember the initial press release the White House put

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Speaker 2: out about it, and they included Jared Kushner and Steve

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Speaker 2: Whitkoff and Marco Rubio and a bunch of people that

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Speaker 2: you know are they're very poly charged within the current administration.

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Speaker 2: These folks got a lot of connections. And then the

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Speaker 2: fact that the current standing President of the United States

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Speaker 2: would be the the chair.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, let's go to as you know saying this

656
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Speaker 3: for years, I was I always like to. I think

657
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Speaker 3: we all always like to go to the board, right,

658
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Speaker 3: see who's in charge of a new initiative or a

659
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Speaker 3: mysterious institution. The Board of Peace executive board includes some

660
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Speaker 3: of the names you just mentioned, Matt, not just Marco Rubio,

661
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: Jared Kushner, Steve vik Koff or Wit Coffee's accents coming

662
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Speaker 3: out us special Envoy, but also some old hits like

663
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Speaker 3: Tody Blair, the UK Prime Minister back in the day,

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Speaker 3: the CEO of an equity firm called Apollo Global Management,

665
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Speaker 3: guy named Mark Rowan might be worth looking into. And

666
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Speaker 3: the President of the World Bank, aj Benga. So everybody

667
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Speaker 3: check out our World Bank episode. Oh NJ Banga. It's

668
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: like a DJ name. It's a pretty cool name. We

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Speaker 3: could say that we know.

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Speaker 2: The World Bank has a little hand in the whole

671
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Speaker 2: peace war thing that goes on in this world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I m F and Robert Gabriel the last

673
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Speaker 3: one for now US National Security Advisors. It's very much

674
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Speaker 3: a US production. The headline about the bill dollar thing

675
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Speaker 3: brockness is that once states formally formally agree to be

676
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Speaker 3: bound by the Charter, the member states are going to

677
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Speaker 3: get three year renewable terms. But if you want a

678
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Speaker 3: permanency kind of like on the UN Security Council that level,

679
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Speaker 3: that's when you start contributing one billion US dollars. And

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Speaker 3: I'm trying so hard not to doctor evil at that one.

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Speaker 6: But you know what these are like, these are like

682
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Speaker 6: dues or like when what's the structure for these payments?

683
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Speaker 3: Pay to play? You know? That's the term that was

684
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Speaker 3: coming from footing around in my head very much. So

685
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Speaker 3: we're sharing that because I don't know where it goes.

686
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Speaker 3: And I have this I keep having. I strive to

687
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Speaker 3: be objective in all things, but I keep returning to

688
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Speaker 3: this onion article that or onion headline. I should say

689
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Speaker 3: that I read a while back, but it was the

690
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Speaker 3: headline was something like devastating a guy you hate just

691
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Speaker 3: made a good point. And I know a lot of

692
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Speaker 3: us have have always struggled, you know, with someone you

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Speaker 3: dislike raising a valid point. And the question is should

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Speaker 3: we give the Board of Peace a chance or should

695
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Speaker 3: we just assume, based on precedent that it's going to

696
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Speaker 3: be another controversial, halfway thought out grab for power or

697
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Speaker 3: financial blood and treasure. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I learned a long time ago that we should always

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Speaker 2: give peace a chance, board a chance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And this so this is something we want your

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Speaker 3: opinions on, folks. We want to hear whether this is

702
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: that I mean a lot of people are also saying, hey,

703
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Speaker 3: this is just another distracting bread and circus kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: This is a headline leech that will take away from

705
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Speaker 3: the failures to disclose the Epstein files, the ongoing allegations

706
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: of heavy Russian influence in US policy, which we're pretty

707
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: sure are true. There's a lot of sand to it.

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Speaker 3: We can't wait to hear your thoughts before we head

709
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Speaker 3: off into the hinterlands and activitgates. We wanted to share

710
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: some letters from home, and these I hope stood out

711
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: to all of us, and we hope they stand out

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Speaker 3: to you. The first is a response from Chai, who

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Speaker 3: is writing to us regarding our episode about intuition being

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Speaker 3: gut feelings from the future. I think we all had

715
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Speaker 3: a part of a time on that one in a

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Speaker 3: good way. Okay, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: Exactly how I would put it.

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Speaker 3: So, Hi, Ben, Matt, and Noel, says Chai. I've been

719
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Speaker 3: listening to your podcast for years, and I really appreciate

720
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Speaker 3: the caring curiosity you bring to each topic. Your episode

721
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Speaker 3: on intuition was especially interesting and got me thinking. When

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Speaker 3: you talked about intuition maybe no longer being as strongly

723
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Speaker 3: tied to survival, using the example of choosing a path

724
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 3: in a park, I felt there was a perspective missing

725
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: that might add an extra layer of depth. For many women,

726
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: intuition is still very directly connected to survival. Any woman

727
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Speaker 3: who has walked home alone in the dark knows that

728
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: going with your gut is often about safety, not convenience.

729
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 3: To examples that come to mind, the instinct to change roots,

730
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: avoid certain places, or stay close to other people based

731
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: on subtle environmental cues. The immediate, sometimes hard to explain,

732
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: sense that a situation or person is unsafe, even when

733
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: nothing is outwardly wrong. These are forms of intuition that

734
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: are deeply practical and still rooted in survival mechanisms. They're

735
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Speaker 3: shaped by lived experience, and they show how intuition can

736
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: operate differently depending on social context and vulnerability. And then

737
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Speaker 3: I think, right, it's safe to say, guys, we all

738
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: completely agree with this. Right, we have loved ones who

739
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 3: have told us similar things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, none of us that have had that distinct experience, right,

741
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: but right, we can we can understand to some extent

742
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: from stories told to us.

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Speaker 6: I was semi mugged one time in a very empty

744
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 6: subway station in New York, and it was one of

745
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 6: those things where like before I even saw the person,

746
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 6: I felt a way like coming behind me. And luckily

747
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Speaker 6: I was with a friend who is a very large man,

748
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Speaker 6: who walked up and sort of caused the person to flee.

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Speaker 6: But I did get a feeling like environmental tingling, you

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Speaker 6: know something and obviously for women, very different, something that

751
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 6: you much more have to be attuned to on a

752
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Speaker 6: regular basis.

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Speaker 3: But this, this situation very much rattled me, and for

754
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Speaker 3: a while I've felt a certain way being out in

755
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 3: the world, you know, and that's a way that you're

756
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: almost a sense memory that you can that kind of

757
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: comes back, and the experiences that you're describing here, Chai,

758
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Speaker 3: the reason I think these are invaluable for all of

759
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: us in the audience tonight is because this is a

760
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Speaker 3: perspective that we three dudes do not experientially possess. Right,

761
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Speaker 3: we have had as you were saying, that we've all

762
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Speaker 3: had similar experiences. But given given the fact that so

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Speaker 3: many women or non binary people are forced to live

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Speaker 3: life a constant level of survival mode, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of sand and there's a very crucial perspective to what

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Speaker 3: you're saying here, Chai. You continue, you say, there's also

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Speaker 3: a lot of discussion around whether women tend to develop

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Speaker 3: strongnger intuitive skills and how that might relate to heightened

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Speaker 3: social awareness, pattern recognition, or long standing survival strategies. I

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Speaker 3: think exploring that angle could be a really fascinating addition

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Speaker 3: to the conversation. Fully agreed, and you continue, try to

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Speaker 3: paraphrase a little bit he said, thank you again for

773
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Speaker 3: the amazing work you do. Your podcast has been a

774
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: companion to be for a long time. Not criticism, but

775
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: an invitation a female perspective on intuition could open a richer,

776
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: more layered understanding of what intuition really is and how

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Speaker 3: it functions today. And I think that's awesome. Thank you

778
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Speaker 3: so much for taking the time to write to us.

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Speaker 3: We love to hear those perspectives. We love different perspectives.

780
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: We hang out with each other on this show constantly.

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00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: I think as a result, right, we tend to get

782
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: familiar and normalized with certain things book toy of course, Chai,

783
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: as you know, Gavin de Becker's Gift of Fear. But

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00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: it'd be great to hear other people's perspectives and experiences

785
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: from different parts of the world, from different demographics, different

786
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: age ranges. You know, the experience of a fourteen year

787
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: old in the Upper West Side of Manhattan is going

788
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: to be way different from the experience of a kid

789
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Speaker 3: in Namibia, you know, or a kid in Malaysia for sure.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I just watched my son get his red black

791
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 2: belt and it just, you know, it makes me wonder

792
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: if it's a if it's like a false thing, the

793
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: concept of training in martial arts or something. It would

794
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: make you feel less afraid or makes you more in

795
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: danger because you feel confident right that you know, martial

796
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Speaker 2: arts are something when you encounter a situation no, like

797
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: you're talking about where you're potentially in danger by somebody

798
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Speaker 2: who potentially has a weapon, that those skills and that

799
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Speaker 2: knowledge isn't going to help you at all.

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Speaker 3: You're saying it might make you be more of a

801
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: risk taker because I feel confidence. Well, I this is silly,

802
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: you could handle it. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is kind of silly. I just rewatched

804
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: the original Karate Kid with my kids, who are both

805
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: taking taekwondo right now. And one of one of the

806
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: big things that mister Miyagi says there is I think

807
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: pretty prescient. He said, you can't you can't kind of

808
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: do martial arts either don't you have no martial arts

809
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Speaker 2: training and understanding, or you are very good at it

810
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Speaker 2: and you've trained a lot and you it's a mindset

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Speaker 2: more than anything else, because if you're somewhere in the middle,

812
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna get hurt really badly or killed.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, I agree, that's pressing, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: that's where you're talking about. Part of it is the

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Speaker 3: learning curve, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know

816
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: how to do a few roundhouse kicks. Let me go

817
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: have a problem at the Chili's down the street. That's

818
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: not the way to do it. Well, that's also antithetical

819
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: to the whole philosophy exactly martial arts. And the more

820
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: you learn, the less likely you are to engage in

821
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Speaker 3: a physical altercation.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and just the idea if you encounter a

823
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Speaker 2: situation like that and theoretically you could defend yourself or

824
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: somebody else like is that. I think overall it's a

825
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: better thing to have, but I don't know. It does

826
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Speaker 2: make me nervous.

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Speaker 3: To be prepared is always better. And the folks who

828
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Speaker 3: are quite adept at martial arts will, of course are

829
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: your preparation is key. And they'll also tell you always

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Speaker 3: avoid to fight. You've kind of lost a fight if

831
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Speaker 3: a fight occurs, just because you didn't remove yourself from

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Speaker 3: the situation. And there's there's great wisdom to that. Don't

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00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: let your look in a lot of street fights, for

834
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: anybody's seen them, vent in them we realize immediately. We

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Speaker 3: don't think about it until in retrospect. But the person

836
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: starting a fight is often not starting to fight with

837
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: one person, starting to fight with two people there's the

838
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 3: guy outside, there's the guy in their head, their ego,

839
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 3: who is like, oh yeah, this missed big swings back

840
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: in town, baby, that guy bumped into you, he spilled

841
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: something on his shoes, and that's a very That's what

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Speaker 3: we would call an opportunity to learn.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to look inward. And so much of martial arts

844
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Speaker 6: is as a mindset, like you were saying that, And

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Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken, I think it's Judo focuses largely

846
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Speaker 6: on just redirecting the energy of your opponent. So it's

847
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 6: not even about attacking. It's about focusing an.

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Speaker 3: Attack on you in a way that you know puts

849
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Speaker 3: you out of harm's way and kind of honing in

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00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: on your opponent's weaknesses in order to miss to redirect

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00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: their energy in a way that sort of disarms them.

852
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 3: And Chai, we don't mean to get off topic here

853
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: too much. We don't want to lose the plot. This

854
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: person that you're providing is not just important, it is

855
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: mission critical. The ideal world is what a world in

856
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: which anybody, regardless of their identity, can walk without fear

857
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Speaker 3: of being harmed. We're going to have a one more

858
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Speaker 3: letter from home about the value of other perspectives from

859
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Speaker 3: around the world from different people. Like our pal Mike

860
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Speaker 3: Render says, hang out with people you wouldn't usually hang

861
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: out with, know what their worldview is like. That's how

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00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 3: we connect as in this crazy group project called Humanity,

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00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: this long form, non consensual limbrov game called Life. Before

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Speaker 3: we get to this very valuable correspondence that also speaks

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Speaker 3: to the conversational that we were having with EJW, we

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Speaker 3: are going to pause our listener mail segment for an

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Speaker 3: update on something we discussed previously in Strange News.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, Jomin like this, guys don't want to interrupt

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Speaker 2: the flow of the important stuff. I'm just jumping in

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Speaker 2: to say. We talked on this week's Strange News about

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Speaker 2: Congressman Rocanna and Thomas Massey, who wrote a letter to

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Speaker 2: Federal Court Judge Paul Engelmeyer asking for a special Master

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Speaker 2: and independent monitor to quote compel the Department of Justice

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Speaker 2: to make mandatory production under the Act that is, of course,

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Speaker 2: the Epstein Act to release the Epstein files. It was

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Speaker 2: just reported by ABC News as we're recording today, the

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Speaker 2: same day we recorded that Strange News episode that the

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Speaker 2: judge has declined to appoint a special master to oversee

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Speaker 2: the release. That is all back to the show.

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Speaker 3: Meaning that things are the same. Basically, there's no there's no.

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Speaker 2: The judge just said no, it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: That it got it got shut down, but the mission continues. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And with that update, we're returning to our last, our

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Speaker 3: last piece of correspondence for program this evening. This is

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Speaker 3: from none other than Zach Squatch. Love a pun Zack Squatch,

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Speaker 3: and thank you for the pun. Because there is no

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Speaker 3: humor like Allo's humor. There is no whistle like a

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Speaker 3: graveyard whistle. You bring up an important point that calls

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Speaker 3: back to back to our conversation here and calls forward

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Speaker 3: to an episode we're going to do in the future. Hi, Gangle.

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Speaker 3: While back, I emailed you with the theory I had

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Speaker 3: that American LGBTQ plus people may soon end up seeking

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Speaker 3: asylum in other countries as the US government makes it

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Speaker 3: increasingly dangerous for them to live in their home country.

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Speaker 3: I don't think my theory ended up on air on

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Speaker 3: your show, but today I came across an article in

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Speaker 3: the Guardian which unfortunately proved my theory to be correct,

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Speaker 3: and you link us to that article fear abuse and

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Speaker 3: eroding rights and forced many trans people to leave the

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Speaker 3: United States. Can they claim asylum in the Netherlands and

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Speaker 3: the Guardian goes on to talk about transgender refugees fleeing

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Speaker 3: the US and just reading this man is worrisome. You know,

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Speaker 3: we talked about the Great brain Drain, and we talked

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Speaker 3: about you know, people aspirationally saying they're going to leave

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Speaker 3: the US regardless of who wins the election. By the way,

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Speaker 3: no matter who gets voted in for the office of president,

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Speaker 3: there's always some contingent of people who say they're going

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Speaker 3: to leave, right they're going to go to Canada or

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Speaker 3: in cert country here. But the the stuff that's happening

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Speaker 3: with LGBTQ plus people is pretty terrifying right now. So

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Speaker 3: Zach Squatch wanted us to share a message with all

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Speaker 3: of our fellow listeners in that community or allies saying,

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Speaker 3: please wish my LGBTQ plus ken in the United States safety,

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Speaker 3: health and happiness wherever they end up being here in

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Speaker 3: the UK, it's currently horrifying anytime something pops up in

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Speaker 3: the news regarding your country. We know, Zach Squatch, we know,

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Speaker 3: hope you all are safe out there and taking care

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Speaker 3: of each other. It may be a good time to

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Speaker 3: repost that episode on bug out Bags. Now we all

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Speaker 3: have friends in these communities. Have you, guys, heard of

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Speaker 3: anybody seriously talking about trying to move or leave the

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Speaker 3: country or what? Have you been hearing a couple.

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Speaker 6: Of high profile celebs have done it. I want to say,

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Speaker 6: Rosio Nah moved to Ireland, and there was a couple

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Speaker 6: of other ones that I remember, But no, I don't

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Speaker 6: know anybody personally, but I'm sure that number could increase.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the show, we know a few people personally who

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Speaker 2: have left for that very reason for concern over children

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Speaker 2: actually specifically because yeah, because of both real and perceived

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Speaker 2: you know, like the sense of persecution in that way or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or something in the wind right, potential stuff on

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Speaker 3: the horizon, And we want to we want to hear

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Speaker 3: your experiences with this kind of stuff as well, folks,

934
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Speaker 3: because again, as we'll see in an upcoming episode, it

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Speaker 3: is incredibly difficult to leave any country and start a

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Speaker 3: new life somewhere else. So we want to we want

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Speaker 3: to hear your plans. We hope you tune into that

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Speaker 3: episode and where we hope wherever you are this program

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Speaker 3: finds you safe. We're all in it together. And since

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Speaker 3: we're all in it together, let's be pen pals. Find

941
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Speaker 3: us online, call us on the phone, send us an email.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 6: You can definitely find us online if you wish, if

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Speaker 6: the hamlic conspiracy stuff or conspiracy stuff show, depending on

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Speaker 6: your platform of choice. You can also give us a

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Speaker 6: telephone call.

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Speaker 2: Our number is one eight to three three st d

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Speaker 2: wyt K. Turn the letters into numbers. Give it a call.

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Speaker 2: It's a voicemail system. You've got three minutes. Give yourself

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Speaker 2: a cool nickname and let us know if we can

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Speaker 2: use your name. End message on the air. If you'd

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Speaker 2: like to send us an email, you can do that too.

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Speaker 2: We are the.

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Speaker 3: Entities that read each piece of correspondence we receive. Be

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Speaker 3: well aware, yet out afraid. Sometimes the voider writes back,

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Speaker 3: and maybe writing to you right now, seriously. One of

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Speaker 3: the best ways to contact us. Send the links, send

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Speaker 3: the images, send the random facts and get one in return.

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Speaker 3: We're hanging out there twenty four hours in the evening,

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Speaker 3: seven nights a week because we don't respect the sun.

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Speaker 3: before you find us, online before you send us fantastic

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Speaker 3: Don't Want You to Know to watch on Netflix right now.

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