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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt the fall weather is

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Speaker 2: definitely upon us here now Pittsburgh is well, it's chilly out,

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Speaker 2: it's windy, it's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all the old like winter. Yeah. Man like

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Week. Happy Thanksgiving Week to all.

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving Week. And before we get started here, I

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Speaker 2: just want to let everybody know that tomorrow, if they're

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Speaker 2: expecting the video portion of our show to be on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: that won't happen because the Mike Tomlin press conference is

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Speaker 2: taking place at two thirty tomorrow, which means I will

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Speaker 2: be down to the South Side. We'll still do a show,

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Speaker 2: it will just.

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Speaker 3: Probably from three different locations. It sounds like it could

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Speaker 3: be a little clunky.

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Speaker 2: Be a little different than usual, but.

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Speaker 3: There still might be a YouTube. We're still trying to

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Speaker 3: see if we're on YouTube and will not to see

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Speaker 3: our smiling faces.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, so you're welcome for that smiling face. Yes, that's

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Speaker 3: our gifts. Some interesting and of course we're not doing

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Speaker 3: the show Thanksgiving. It's another weird week, two weeks in

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Speaker 3: a row.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting results yesterday, And I tweeted out after the

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Speaker 2: one o'clock games, Matt Division games are just different, and

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Speaker 2: you see different results from these kind of games.

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Speaker 3: Every year all the time, and we always seem to

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Speaker 3: overlook it, you know, like just yeah, analystis across the board.

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Speaker 2: Like Washington's an eleven point ten point favorite over the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys whenever it finally went off at end up losing

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Speaker 2: that game thirty four to twenty six, a game that

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Speaker 2: was nine was it nine ten to nine going into

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's forty one points in the fourth quarter. I

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Speaker 3: think it was.

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Speaker 2: That would be correct. Yeah, yeah, insanity ensued.

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Speaker 3: In Sandy ensued. I mean, like there's a lot to

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Speaker 3: take away from that game, Like Parsons is like what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like they have a defense when he's out there,

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Speaker 3: it's not just garbage, you know. And I thought Rush

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Speaker 3: played a little bit better. I also think that Washington

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Speaker 3: and we talked about sleeping up to the Steelers. Commanders,

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Speaker 3: they won one game with the Hail Mary. They beat

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Speaker 3: the Giants that didn't have a kicker pre Steeler game

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Speaker 3: that they're still out kicking their coverage. But they're not

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Speaker 3: this year's Texans with the second overall player. They're a good,

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Speaker 3: average type team. They're not a contender, and they're coming

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Speaker 3: back to earth a little bit. But the last quarter

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Speaker 3: or last five minutes of that game was a non

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Speaker 3: serious endeavor. I mean, that was not NFL football.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to explain it all to my way.

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Speaker 2: I'm down on my basement one. Yeah, the games on

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Speaker 2: TV down there. My wife's upstairs, and she kept hearing

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Speaker 2: me going yelling and stuff like what. He's like, what

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Speaker 2: forgetting stuff that. I'm like, oh, and then this happened then,

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Speaker 2: and then I couldn't believe this, and they didn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: then they left Terry mcclains more.

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Speaker 3: And just runs ninety yards or whatever untouched. You know

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Speaker 3: what's going on here? And then you miss the extra point.

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Speaker 3: Then you missed the extra point, and then of course

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Speaker 3: This is non serious football. But you're right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's a great way to open the show. You you

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Speaker 3: the division games are weird. Like Tennessee Houston.

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Speaker 2: Titans go into Houston and beat the Texans. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Texans were over a touchdown favorite and they.

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Speaker 3: Had eight sacks, yeah, and a defensive score and lost

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Speaker 3: weird stuff happens in division. Yeah, too much familiarity. Cardinals

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Speaker 3: who had been red hot, they go to Seattle. They're

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Speaker 3: favored in Seattle by it was only a point, right, right,

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Speaker 3: They weren't competitive in a sixteen to six loss. No,

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Speaker 3: The Leonard Williams of the world and Mafe's and those

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Speaker 3: he's a veteran, he's the carpet, he's the carpet for Yeah,

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Speaker 3: pulls the whole room again exactly. And the defense now

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Speaker 3: What's that? We just didn't pee on him, that's all.

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Speaker 3: And Ari Zone looming down the carpet. So again, division

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Speaker 3: stuff's crazy. And Vikings Bears, I'd say the Bears game too.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings are up four twenty four to ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cayleb Williams was quite good in this game. And frankly,

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Speaker 3: if I'm Chicago, I don't mind losing so much because

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Speaker 3: I helped my draft stuff and all that. But I

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Speaker 3: was really competitive against a good team. They totally eliminated

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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, which was their game plan. But Minnesota showed Okay,

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Speaker 3: But in the big picture, Kayleb. Williams is getting better

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Speaker 3: and they've had two games without their former offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: that's what we want, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so just some different results in these divisional games.

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Speaker 3: That obviously leads us to Steelers Cleveland and Steelers Bengals,

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Speaker 3: and you know, right, a lot.

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Speaker 3: And the Thursday night game in the division on the

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Speaker 3: road is a chore, Yeah it is. And and obviously

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Speaker 3: the majority of the Steelers schedule is division games, and

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Speaker 2: Obviously, it really is.

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Speaker 3: What do you take like that too?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? The Bears are the same situation. What do you

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Speaker 3: Best game ever by Bryce Young? And I think that

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Speaker 3: more of. I know Richardson's stats aren't great, but he

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Speaker 3: But I mean, maybe he could have played through.

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Speaker 2: I think he could have played. He could have played

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Speaker 3: You know, But I thought Young was the best game

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Speaker 3: I hope the owner realizes Canalis might be the answer

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Speaker 2: I don't care about the Carolina aspect of it. I know,

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Speaker 2: because everybody's treating the Chiefs like they're this unbeatable juggernaut

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Speaker 3: And they do not They do not look like a

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Speaker 2: I guess you're talking about. I like what the Panther

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Speaker 3: I always like to give the opponent credit. Get you're

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Speaker 2: The Red and Gold, the Chief's got some issues.

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Speaker 3: They got some issues, and they look a little fatigued too,

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Speaker 3: you know, like they've played a lot of football in

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Speaker 3: but they need another pass rusher. It's Chris Jones getting

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Speaker 3: they're not not finishers put teams away, you know, pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: Chris Jones had no stats in that game.

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Speaker 3: He was pretty invisible, and they ran the football they did.

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Speaker 3: And I think their secondary is missing a snead, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean for sure they've had an injury or two

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Speaker 3: and they're just not real dynamic. The offense is tackle

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you're coming a major right that

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Speaker 2: I I don't know was he looked like JK. Dobbins

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Speaker 3: There's definitely some time finding a way to win. I mean, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: it's at least as impressed with as Tomlins streak. Andy

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Speaker 3: the greatest coaching things I've ever heard, to be honest

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Speaker 3: with you, And that's not a fluke obviously, but they

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Speaker 3: do not look like like when we'll talk power ranks tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But I think the Eagles and Lions are clearly above

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I think the FC is very flawed.

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Speaker 3: Bills are above the chief I think the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Are the team that kind of benefited from that. They

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Speaker 2: were out of sight, out of mind this week, right

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Speaker 2: and you're watching everything else that's happening here in and

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Speaker 2: their division stinks.

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Speaker 3: Oh, their division stinks, Like Miami actually is a team

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Speaker 3: that's benefiting from putting a little bit of a wing

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Speaker 3: But I've had a good conversation with Tim Bens and

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Speaker 3: he's throwing in from Mark Madden, and I thought he

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Speaker 3: said it really well. He's like tonight's game aside, maybe

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Speaker 3: that changes things a little. I don't view the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Thursday changed nothing from it.

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Speaker 3: Right, the Bills were off, the Bengals were off, Kansas

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Speaker 3: City does what they always do and squeam right, and

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Speaker 2: Let's put this way. If if the Steelers went to

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Speaker 2: second field goal, yeah, Steeler Nation would be going bonkers,

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Speaker 2: bonkers as what were they eleven point favorites, ten and

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Speaker 2: a half level favorites and you squeak by that team

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Speaker 2: and you could have lost that game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot to worry about there. I

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Speaker 3: think age has a lot to do with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And when Juju's the young guy.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen a three point underdogs. You want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it's day one of my sincey prep.

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Speaker 3: They do good things, they do bad things. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Their wins have come against Carolina, the Giants, the Browns

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Speaker 2: So, you know, I don't know what to expect of them.

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Speaker 2: They're playing out of their minds. But it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: It was t Higgins or Chase or burrough saying I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you guys can talk. You guys are playing really, really well.

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Speaker 2: Your defense stinks. Shut up, don't say anything. Why would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're part of the problem. You're part of the

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean or rendous. That's against this is over

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Raiders and Chargers aren't exactly explosive offenses.

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Speaker 2: At least with the Ravens. Okay, I get it, but

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Speaker 2: They gave up twenty six to the Chiefs, thirty eight

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes us sense. Shut up, dude, Right, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure even Burrow's like, come on, man, yeah, I'll do talking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, speaking of doing the talking, we're gonna take

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Speaker 4: In the least.

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Speaker 2: Man, we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 4: We're tapping guys.

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Speaker 3: What's shake?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It was good. Did a little high school football,

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Speaker 4: so that was fun. With Wolf.

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Speaker 2: You brought my Ford Cherry Rangers home for a championship.

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Speaker 4: Second straight championship Cherry Rangers as a heck of a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, keep the pipes in practice, huh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't want any downtime. So it was a blast.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's been so long since I've done that,

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Speaker 4: with Wolf in an absolute blast, dude. The coaches were great,

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Speaker 4: you know Clareton, Wayne Wade. I mean he's been to

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Speaker 4: Wayne Wade. I mean they've won fourteen titles. He's been

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Speaker 4: It was so much fun. Wolf and I would would pound.

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Speaker 2: My first year at Washington I hadn't covered the Steelers

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Speaker 2: is in the nineties, and you know, he's just you

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00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 2: know some some coaches you talk to. And Jim now

437
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 2: maybe he did swear in his real life, and you know,

438
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: we talked to the kid, but I doubt it because

439
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: he's the I'd asked a question, be like, well, Dale

440
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: cheese and crackers. I don't know what we're gonna do

441
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: about it. That was like, that's who he was. And

442
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: you talked to Marty Schottenheimer, God rest his soul. You

443
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: talk to Marvin Lewis and they credit, uh, you know,

444
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: Jim Gary for for you know, making them the men

445
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: that they are and getting them to where they it's

446
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: it's just a great family tradition out there at Fort

447
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: Cherry and uh, congratulations of them two in a row.

448
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: That's just Western PA coaches and tradition in general.

449
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: He was he was great they had. So I went

450
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: out there another year. They had Mike Vernillo, who was

451
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: the all time he would end up being the all

452
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: time leading rusher in in Whippo history. He's a freshman

453
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: on the team that year and I asked him, who's

454
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 2: you know who you got running back? And well, he

455
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: goes through a bunch of guys and about seven guys

456
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: in he says, and we got this freshman Mike Vernillo.

457
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: He might do a little something. And like three games

458
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 2: into the season, he's he's run for like over two

459
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: hundred yards in each of their first three games. And

460
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,479
Speaker 2: for some reason, I was doing something and I had

461
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: to call Jim up. I'm like, Jim, you said, you

462
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: kind of you kind of slow played this Vanillo kid

463
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 2: a little bit.

464
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 4: Huh.

465
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: He's like, well, you know, he's a freshman. I didn't

466
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: want to pump him up too much. But we're we're

467
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: pretty excited about I thought he had.

468
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 4: A chance, you know, and I love that. Uh you know,

469
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: I remember talking to I mean just you know, just

470
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 4: personal just a variety of different coaches that you talked to,

471
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: but uh, coach Novak down at Woodland Hills and talking

472
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 4: to him about, you know, hey, the players you got

473
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: coming up. And remember they'd always have you know, four

474
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 4: or five Division one players in that team. I remember

475
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: him telling me we got a young kid. He's a

476
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: real deal, the real bill. His name is Miles Sanders.

477
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 4: He's really good.

478
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: And I'm okay, I'll put.

479
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 4: That name away. And then just watching guys like uh,

480
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, Khalik Hudson, uh playing for McKeesport, and you know,

481
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 4: just the individual players, but everything around it. Just you know,

482
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 4: the communities were so welcoming. They loved having our TV

483
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: crew in there. I love the idea that you could

484
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: trot down to the field half an hour before kickoff

485
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 4: and you know, talk to Art Walker, coach Novak or

486
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 4: coach Monticavo. They didn't bat an eye. Oh yeah, hey,

487
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 4: you doing guay? You know, can you imagine rolling up

488
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 4: to a head coach half an hour before kickoffs? Just

489
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 4: like right out in the middle of the field, you know,

490
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: in a college or pro game, they'd be like, what

491
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: are you doing out here? Uh? It was it was

492
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: just it was a blast. And of course Wolf was

493
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: a wolf was a to on a fun and so

494
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: it's great to be back doing that and got a

495
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 4: great game. Both teams have so much to be proud of.

496
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 4: It just a great effort and then went and picked

497
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 4: up my uh my mother and Upstate New York and

498
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 4: now we're hunkering down and getting ready for Thanksgiving.

499
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: Yes, it's so cool that the Steelers give these teams

500
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: that opportunity to kind of showcase themselves on the on

501
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: you know, at that level, and and you know, not

502
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: just play at the stadium, but.

503
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: Get the whole whole experience.

504
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, experience of that.

505
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: That three years I was a peace We did like

506
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 3: local coach with coaching clinics, you know, like the O

507
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: line coach from Seaton Lessau or whatever would come and

508
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: sit with our O line coach and then beers with

509
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: them after and food. I mean it was awesome. Yeah.

510
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what, I'm glad you said that

511
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: deal because that's you know, this could easily not be televised.

512
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: It could easily not be at Acrosser Stadium easily, it

513
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 4: could easily none of those things could happen. And it's

514
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: important to the students organization, and that starts at the top.

515
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 4: You know, Art Rooney has a long connection to put it,

516
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: you know, in obvious terms, to the city of Pittsburgh.

517
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 4: He knows what it means. He's got an appreciation court

518
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 4: and a love court, and without him and without the

519
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: Steelers organization, that doesn't happen. So you're absolutely right to

520
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: point that out that you know, that's we we get

521
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 4: to do those games and fans get to go to

522
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: that stadium, and that's.

523
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: Where it starts, absolutely and you know, you just think

524
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: back I you know, it was important when they were

525
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: building the stadium, for example, for for Dan Ronny to

526
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: put up the the plaques of all the paintings and

527
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 2: stuff of all the Whipbuild champion teams in the stadium.

528
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: They're still in there, and that's you know a big

529
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: part of it. Uh you know, just that that tie

530
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: into the to the local football.

531
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: Scene and the players that have come out of this

532
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: area are ridiculous too.

533
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, without Oh my goodness, gracious, no doubt.

534
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: I mean we just we just mentioned for Cherry, which

535
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: is a little school in McDonald has has produced two

536
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: NFL head coaches.

537
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking of all the NFL Hall of Famers,

538
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: and you know, it's unbelievable, right, that's crazy.

539
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, getting to Seerell Revis and you know,

540
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: and you know Durell Revis. I don't know because he

541
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: split his time in between football and basketball, but he

542
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 4: was like a three star recruit and you see him playing,

543
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 4: You're like, how many guys are better than him in

544
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: the country. I mean even in high school you could

545
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 4: see it.

546
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: You know, probably I shouldn't even tell this story, but

547
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: I was in the building when we recruited Revis and

548
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: there were a couple of people high up that weren't

549
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: sure if he was good enough to play for the

550
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: Panthers because he was one of those guys that was

551
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: always as fast as he needed to be. You know,

552
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 3: he never looked like the fastest guy in the field,

553
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: but no one ever sniffed him when he had the

554
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 3: ball in his hands. He was and he was the

555
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: best basketball player return.

556
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's exactly right. And I remember, you know,

557
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 4: Mike's Mannick's coach that basically looked, there might be you know,

558
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: twenty point guards better than you in New York City.

559
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: He goes, there aren't ten cornerbacks better than you in

560
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: the country.

561
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah it Gilbert's nephew. Oh by the way, it was

562
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: Sean Gilbert's nephew. By the way, Yeah, yeah.

563
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: Who was also he wasn't But you know, you look

564
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: at I mean again, you know, you just go down

565
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: the list of players. You know, Aaron Donald, but they're

566
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 4: just you know, the competition was And by the way,

567
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: Dan Mason was phenomenal for Penhalsy went you know, he

568
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: had so many injuries. I was sorry to see that.

569
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: But man, you talk about a guy who brought the lumber,

570
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: uh and you know, you just go and and but

571
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 4: it's it's really all of it. It's the players, it's

572
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: the coaches, it's the fans, it's the marching bands, it's

573
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: everything around it. It's the it's the Laura's bringing in

574
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: the meatball subs. I mean, it's just everything about the

575
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: experience is absolutely wonderful. It's getting Donnie Rebel on the

576
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: radio to do the to do the countdown show. You're

577
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: driving around. You know, you're I've been leaving a game.

578
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, where's Don Rebel's countdown Shore, where's just

579
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: wrap up shows? So I know what's going on around

580
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 4: the rest of w P I L And then reading

581
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 4: about it the next day in the paper. Everything. It

582
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: just it's to be back involved in that and have

583
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 4: a chance to do a game. It was, it was.

584
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: It was fabulous and uh you know there, I mean,

585
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: we could go on, we could we could spend a

586
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: week just talking about this. We might have just gone

587
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 4: through our entire segment. Great experience, great way to start

588
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: the weekend.

589
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: So my son's a senior at Upper Saint Clair and

590
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: he has many buddies that are they basically played their

591
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: last football game, and he's like, these are some of

592
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: the my best buds and toughest dudes I know. And

593
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: they're all crying. I've never seen them like this. Like

594
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: it almost brought my son to tears to chat with

595
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: his buddies that they knew that I'm not gonna put

596
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: the pads on one more time, you know.

597
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, Jim render talking to him over

598
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: the years, you know, uh, you know, Terry out of Gateway,

599
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: I mean all the coaches that you kind of get

600
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: to know a little bit. But you're right, and that's

601
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: you know, that's one of the things I was I

602
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: was talking about or tried to talk about during the broadcast,

603
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: like it's a game, but it's a dream. Like every

604
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: kid who puts on a uniform, I don't care if

605
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: you're Peebly or when you are, if you're from Western Pennsylvania,

606
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: at some point you're dreaming about. Man, how cool would

607
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: it be able to to be to be able to

608
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: play where the Steelers play Acrosser Stadium in a championship

609
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: and then only two teams from every classification every year

610
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: get the opportunity to do that. That's a dream to

611
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: walk out in that field and and to play those

612
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: games and to play with your buddies. You know, there's

613
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: no sport. And and maybe others would disagree, and you know,

614
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: maybe maybe going back to my high school days, that

615
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: was my best sport probably, so maybe that's why I

616
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: think of it finally, but I just think there's something

617
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: about what you have to go through in football and

618
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going to use these I'm not gonna use

619
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: these you know, boot camp and all that stuff. It's

620
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: not it's not war. It's not the same thing. But man,

621
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you sit there in August, You're like,

622
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: oh my goodness, gracious, double sessions. It's one hundred degrees.

623
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: I don't care how many weights you lifted and how

624
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: much running you did. You are just like, oh, when

625
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: am I going to get through this? And then oh

626
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: you get a quick map and then do it again

627
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: in the afternoon, and the study and all everything that

628
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: goes into the sport. You know, just once the season starts,

629
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: you know, there's you know, you're not you know, you

630
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: do you know, And I'm not trying to denigrate any

631
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: other sport. I mean, you know, basketball practice was like,

632
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: oh you go a football practice, the basketball practice, you

633
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: think you're gonna die. Or soccer, I mean, those guys

634
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: are so much better running shape than you would ever

635
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: think of it.

636
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some wrestlers out there going we have

637
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: a pretty tough too, you.

638
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: Know, absolutely, but you know, but you have there's fifty

639
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: sixty guys on a football team and you're all in

640
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: it together, you know.

641
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: And on thee.

642
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: Somewhere like that.

643
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not trying to take away from any other sport.

644
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: I just think there's something that that causes that emotion

645
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: that gets people emotional when they've played their last game.

646
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: Once you play, that's it, you know what I mean. Here,

647
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: maybe there's something too but that.

648
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: And especially around here.

649
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh for sure, for sure. You know I always

650
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 4: think to myself, you know, I would have loved to

651
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: have played football in western Pennsylvania. Would have loved to,

652
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Speaker 4: you know, wish I'd gone. I remember watching games and thinking, man,

653
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: I wish I could have been out there where it

654
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: was so much bigger than it was in Upstate New York.

655
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Speaker 4: And maybe playing here would have made me a better

656
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: player too, you know, competition to you know, Mike Tomlins

657
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: says iron Sharpen's iron. Maybe in my case, you know,

658
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: iron with a sharpened chalk or whatever I was bringing

659
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Speaker 4: to the table. If I go to if I go

660
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Speaker 4: to school, if I go to school, when I say,

661
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: Mike McMahon is at NA, right, but the Hills, Yeah,

662
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: I'm not playing quarterback. You know, I'm not on the team.

663
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: So so you know, it's it is. It's a it's

664
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Speaker 4: a special thing. It's a great thing, and yeah it was.

665
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Speaker 4: It was a wonderful way to start the weekend and

666
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Speaker 4: to be back into that and it was it was great.

667
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: It was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Well, King, I know you had your mother at the house.

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Speaker 2: Did you get to watch any football yesterday?

670
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Speaker 4: I did not. I was in the car, but I

671
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: did listen to some football. So that was kind of

672
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Speaker 4: interesting to get a chance to listen to various broadcasts

673
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: as I was driving home. So I did do that.

674
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Speaker 4: That was fun. That was that was an educational experience.

675
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: But no, I saw very little. Actually, no, take that back.

676
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: I saw no football yesterday. How to play?

677
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Speaker 3: I saw a lot real quick. Dale and I were

678
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: talking about this and I on another show with Tim Benn's.

679
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Speaker 3: We were having this conversation that maybe tonight changes my

680
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: opinion on this, But I'm not sure the Steelers pecking

681
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: order in the AFC really changed after that Brown's loss,

682
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: or you know, the the chief struggled. I know you

683
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: didn't watch. You were busy them. The chief struggled with

684
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: Carolina since he was on a buy, Buffalo was on

685
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Speaker 3: a bye. The other two teams play tonight, you know, like,

686
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure a whole lot changed in the AFC.

687
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Speaker 4: No. I think what happens though, is your expectation as

688
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: a fan, you know, you get a little bit of

689
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: a oh you know, but you roll through the Browns,

690
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: you're nine and two. You know you're gonna win a

691
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: couple more games. You're gonna get into the playoffs, and

692
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: all of a sudden it feels like, whoa that that

693
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: margin fererr just got a little more slender. And I

694
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 4: keep shoutings from the rooftops. Man, the Bengals scare mean.

695
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: They starved me, and this game coming up on Sunday

696
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: scares me. They've played with everybody, They've given everybody a game.

697
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: They haven't able to close the deal.

698
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Speaker 2: Not everybody. The uh I mean the Eagles handled them

699
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: pretty pretty hand.

700
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Speaker 3: Pretty good. Yeah, but I get what you're saying, Yeah, good, right,

701
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: but there's still only a ten points.

702
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people thought, I'm sorry, my

703
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: dog was barking, so miss you say.

704
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: Man, no, never mind, I screwed it up anyways.

705
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Speaker 4: Oh uh, so I was gonna say, you know, they

706
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: they scare me. There. They were a team that everybody,

707
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of people picked them to win

708
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: the AFC North. Right, Let's not forget that. And it's

709
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: still a talented team. You know, look, we heard about

710
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Speaker 4: how bad the Ravens secondary was and you look at

711
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 4: you look at the Bengals. That's been you know, a

712
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: big bugaboo for them. But the Steelers didn't exploit that.

713
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: Stewards didn't throw for three hundred and fifty yards against

714
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Speaker 4: the Ravens. They won the football game, but they didn't

715
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: do it that way. It's a it's a team that

716
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: you know, can score points. And I think this is

717
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: you know, we talked about this last week. This is

718
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: a better Browns team. This is a Browns team that

719
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: we should be evaluating since Jameis wins and took over

720
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 4: a quarterback that should be our field division when we're

721
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 4: talking about the Browns. Okay, they're two and eight football team,

722
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: Fine as you go and beat them. Well, they're actually

723
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: two and two football team in the last four games,

724
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 4: which underscores what a horrendous decision it was in retrospect

725
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: and even maybe at the time for them to bring

726
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: in de Shaun Watson. Because they've been winning and getting

727
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: better performances from other quarterbacks. Joe Flacco and Jameis Winston

728
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: have been more productive than Deshaun Watson was. They're a

729
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: different team with those guys, even with the trade of Cooper,

730
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: even with the injury to j Okay, who again I

731
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: don't know whether he's going to be back next week

732
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: or not. So I think, Matt, I agree with you.

733
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Speaker 4: I don't think that they're I don't think they're pecking

734
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: with changes. I don't think where I would consider ranking

735
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: them in the division changes. I do think though, that

736
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: you know they're gonna be there're gonna be some people

737
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: looking up at the sky and wondering if it's falling.

738
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Speaker 4: If you lose in Cincinnati on Sunday. I don't like

739
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Speaker 4: I said, I don't. I don't. I agree with you.

740
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: I agree with where you are. But that's what happens

741
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: when you know you're as fans and as prognosticators and

742
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: as observers of the of the game. You go out there,

743
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: they're only three and a half point, and they'll find

744
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: a way to win. They'll be nine and down the

745
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: eight and three. Now, how do we evaluate this team?

746
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: So I agree with you, but it's you know, it's

747
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 4: part of also what makes it fun.

748
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Kinger will let you go. I think you canna

749
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: let your dog out or something there. So we'll we'll

750
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Speaker 2: let you go. We'll see you tomorrow. That is Rob King,

751
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: Steelers play by play announcer, the voice of the Steelers.

752
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

753
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

754
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: and I will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

756
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

759
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. The Steelers red zone offense has been

760
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: a bone of contention. Ye since so I looked up

761
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: the numbers. First six games with Justin Fields at quarterback,

762
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers had twenty two trips in the red zone.

763
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: In the five games with Russell Wilson, they've had twenty

764
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: trips to the red zone. They were nine for twenty

765
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: in the red zone or twenty two in the red

766
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: zone with Fields, eight for twenty with Wilson as the starter.

767
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: Okay, these are small samples.

768
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: Very small sample sizes.

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Speaker 3: Here he's at eight for twenty, I mean for twenty twenty.

770
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's the thing. If you if you look

771
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: at the numbers now because people said, well, you know,

772
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: Wilson's at thirty eight percent because they're not counting the

773
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 2: one they're giving. They're giving Fields credit for the touchdown

774
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: they scored against Cleveland a handoff, a handoff, and they're

775
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: not giving Wilson credit for that. Apples one my half dozen.

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00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: The other big picture of the red zone offense has

777
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: to get back. It's been a problem all year, regardless

778
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: of the quarterback.

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they had a four for six game in

780
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: the red zone with Russell Wilson a quarterback against the Jets.

781
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: Nobody was complaining.

782
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: About it then, No, no, no, I was looking this

783
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: up so a big I'm gonna do a podcast on

784
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 3: it later. So I just had a couple of little

785
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: red zone notes on it. Is Belichick is a big

786
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: believer and this is just old school football that the

787
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 3: easiest way to get the football to cross the goal

788
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: line is to run it in. Yes, and that's been

789
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: proven over and over and over, and that might favor fields.

790
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure there's people out there, well, they

791
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: have a better chance of running the ball over the

792
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 3: stripe with Fields than they do Wilson. Okay, I'll buy that.

793
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that there's truth to that if

794
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: you but that in the gates, years and years and

795
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: years of Wilson's prolific red zone passing, and he's been

796
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: one of the best ever. Now someday in his life

797
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: might be when he's sixty. I don't know. He's not

798
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: going to be a red zone good red zone passer anymore.

799
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Speaker 3: Of course we all had Father Time is undefeated, But

800
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Speaker 3: I am not pulling Wilson out of red zone based

801
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: off twenty attempts. No, that really weren't even that bad,

802
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, and it's not like he doesn't belong.

803
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: So they went oh for four against the Ravens, which

804
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: really kind of so before that, he's eight for sixteen.

805
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's which was fine.

806
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Passable, that's you know, he had a bad game in

807
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: the red zone against the Ravens. Who I mean, they

808
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: changed things schematically in that game Baltimore. That being that,

809
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: you know, maybe we weren't expecting there. It's a division opponent.

810
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: They probably spent the entire offseason studying the Steelers. How

811
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: are we going to beat the Steelers? Sure, because that's

812
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: what you do again, we go back to the divisional games,

813
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: are different, you know. So I'm not ready to say

814
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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's a bad red zone quarterback because I don't

815
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: think he is.

816
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Speaker 3: No, I'm not ready to say that either. I don't

817
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: even really have suggestions, you know, Like Hickens has a

818
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: lot of ed zone targets. Good, that's what I want. Yeah,

819
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Speaker 3: I mean, Friar moves seems to get used in that

820
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: neighborhood more than he does elsewhere. Washington's looming, Williams is looming.

821
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Speaker 3: I would think that he gets more red zone action

822
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Speaker 3: going forward than he has, you know what I mean.

823
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Speaker 3: And I do think it's a pretty good run game

824
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: in short yardist situations, you know, in terms of power

825
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: and the type of backs they have. Now, if you

826
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Speaker 3: look at the best red zone offenses in the league,

827
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Speaker 3: they're the normal people you'd think about. I mean, it's Burrow,

828
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 3: it's Lamar, I mean, it's you know, it's Allan. There's

829
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 3: a couple of weird ones in there. Like Carolina's near

830
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: the top of the league, but they run the ball well,

831
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: they run the ball well. That's I was gonna say. Yeah,

832
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: I mean, even like Arizona is near the top of

833
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: the league, Tampa's near the top of the league. Tampa's

834
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: run offense has gotten really really good all of a

835
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: sudden any year.

836
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because their offensive line is good.

837
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

838
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: Detroit's offensive line good.

839
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're at the top of the league too.

840
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: Of course, you know if you if you're if your

841
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: offensive line is teeing off in those situations, your red

842
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: zone offense will be better.

843
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, But I really think deep down the field,

844
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: to your point, the fields versus Wilson thing, it's two

845
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: real small samples. We're talking about one touchdown different difference

846
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, So I wouldn't say, boy, it was

847
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: super prolific until Wilson got in there.

848
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: No, that that that that doesn't seem to me. It's

849
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: more of a team issue than it is. And maybe,

850
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you do need more red zone.

851
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: Options, yeah, or maybe Arthur Smithlake, I haven't just haven't

852
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: called my best game in the red zone, or there's

853
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: been five that were miscommunicated or a hold, or I'd

854
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: have to go through watch every red zone snap. But

855
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: there could be fluky things too. I don't know. It

856
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: needs to get better for this team to be super competitive.

857
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: You can't just have six field goal games time and time.

858
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: No, you can't. You can't rely on that. And I

859
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: agree people who were saying, I completely agree, you're not

860
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: going to win it as often, you know, as they

861
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: have now they've found ways to win those games, but

862
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: you know you're not going to be the Bengals, for example,

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Speaker 2: not scoring red zone touchdowns. But right to our point,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals give up a lot of red zone touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: They're horrible. They're like the works in the league basically.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. Again, I think it's a little

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Speaker 3: bit of an overreaction anytime you're at the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the league in any category, especially when it's that important.

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Speaker 3: It's noteworthy and needs to be corrected and addressed. And

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Speaker 3: you know, you have a ten day stretch here, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that's something that's been on the priority list, you know.

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Speaker 3: Or and going back to the bye week as well,

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Speaker 3: Arthur Russ, what can we do better in the red zone?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't have the answer of what they

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Speaker 3: can do better, but I'm sure that they're going to try.

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Speaker 2: It, and I don't know. For example, I mean, okay,

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Speaker 2: Justin Field's ran for touchdowns, yeah, early no season, good

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Speaker 2: for him, and and he got he scored the touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that Nausea Harris or Jaylen Warren couldn't have

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Speaker 2: scored those touchdowns. True, true, True, We just don't know.

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Speaker 3: And I have mixed feelings about a field package going forward.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of that was Taysom Hill centric

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Speaker 3: in terms of the team they were playing. That just

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Speaker 3: had a lot of problems with that. And I see

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Speaker 3: the merits of both, but I don't see the merits of, well,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna be our red zone guy. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 3: on board with that.

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Speaker 2: That's basically saying you have two quarterbacks, and if you

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Speaker 2: have two quarterbacks, you don't have one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if he's gonna come in and do

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Speaker 3: a little bit of stuff every game, fine, It also

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Speaker 3: wouldn't blow me away if he does nothing in this game,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't take one snap, and I would understand both sides.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But anyways, we got that's going to do

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Speaker 2: for hour number one, we gotta get to a break.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to the drive here on the Steelers audio networ Matt,

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Speaker 2: and I'll be back with our number two right after

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Speaker 2: this