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We begin this 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: hour though, to talk once again because this will be 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: the talk of next week, not just summer air travel, 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: but the big Fourth of July weekend, which will kick 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: off for a lot of people late next week, the 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: holiday being a Monday this year, but that'll be a 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: big weekend. Let's go to Alex Stone ABC News for 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: kfive because the number of people will be traveling by 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: air and the airlines seem to be having once again 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: many problems. Alex Yeah, hey, they add to a bunch 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: of different problems that they're dealing with. And this week, 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: which was a holiday week with juneteenth, that we saw 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: kind of what we may be going up against over 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: fourth of July when forty eight million Americans are expected 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: to either drive or fly, and the airlines aren't fair 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: and very well. Even today, just updating the list here, 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: about seven hundred flights in the US that have been canceled, 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: forty four hundred more that have been pretty severely delayed. 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: And that's good compared to earlier this week when it 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: was a lot more than that. But it's been rough, 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: and the airlines going into the fourth of July, they're 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: trying to get creative. United canceling about fifty flights a 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: day out of Newark ahead of time, saying, look, this 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: isn't working. We need more wiggle room. American three cities, 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: they're just taking them off the map altogether, out of 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: their flight route, saying we need those pilots, so we 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: need the room as well. But they're still having problems. 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: And this guy, Jason Cooper twenty four hours to go 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Newark to Seattle. He says it was not good. At 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: first it was weather and then there was a radar issues. 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: So they kept coming up with one reason after another 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: as to why the flight was deleted. Yes, the weather 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: and then they get you ready to board and whoops, 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: we got a radar issue. And it gets worse and worse. 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: And so what that's going on, Well, the airlines are 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: saying there's a bunch of things. Pilots and several of 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the airlines they're complaining that they're overworked. They can only 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: fly max one hundred hours a month by FAA rule, 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: and they're maxing a lot of that out. But they 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: say that they are there being flying way more than 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: they feel like that they should be safely, and that 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: there are pilot shortages, too many flights, too few pilots. 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: A lot of this goes back to pandemic and the 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: regional carriers taking they're losing their pilots to the mainline carriers. 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Now the regional ones you know ed Express, the smaller 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: regional planes would fly for Alaska and American and then Delta, 56 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: now they don't have the pilots that they need, messing 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: up the system. But the airlines they're blaming air Traffic 58 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Control saying ATC is having staffing problems and that that 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: is creating a big backup where then they're having to 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: cancel flights. United CEO Scott Kirby on Bloomberg this week, 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: biggest bottleneck is probably air traffic control. They're doing everything 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: they can, but like many in the economy, unders have 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: stopping issues. Yeah, he's saying, at least for United, it's 64 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: kind of out of their hands that if atc if 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: air traffic control won't let them go, that they can't go. 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: The FAA says can that controllers are being moved around 67 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: where they're needed, that more are going to Florida to 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: fill spots there. And then being summertime, you've got the 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: weather that in a lot of areas LA except for 70 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: what like Wednesday when we have all the thunderstorms. Typically 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: we don't deal with it, but a lot of the 72 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: hubs do, Denver, Dallas, Newark, Chicago, that they Atlanta, they 73 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of thunderstorms during the summertime. So you 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: add the normal summertime thunderstorms onto not enough pilots, not 75 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: enough air traffic controllers, and people are stuck and it 76 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: may get worse as we go on fourth of July. 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: And then you got that demand. Everybody wants to travel 78 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: if you've been in an airport. We had a family 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: vacation this last week. Every flight was full, The airports 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: were full, the restaurants were full. So you've just got 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: that incredible demand to go right now, it's pent up. 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: Let me ask this because one of the one of 83 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: the airline pilot union guys said this yesterday. We all 84 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: knew that as the lockdowns receded to all this pent 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: up desire to travel, and a lot of the times 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: it's by airplane that the airlines do this and just 87 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: started selling all these flights. Couldn't they look ahead and say, well, 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: maybe we can't staff all these flights. Should we really 89 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: be booking all these flights? And he was saying they 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: should have known this. Yeah, well, I think they were 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: hopeful that they would have the staffing to do it, 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: and now they're realizing that the they don't. But the 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: other problem you've got is, all right, you've got a 94 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: seven thirty seven of one hundred forty one hundred fifty passengers, 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: maybe one hundred ninety, depending on what variant it is 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: of it, and it gets canceled and it is jammed. 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Every seat was going to be full on that, but 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: then the flight after and the flight after that, they're 99 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: all full. What do you do with people? And that's 100 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: why they're being told, well, we'll get you out two 101 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: days from now, three days from now, everything is full, 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: and they just they don't have that wiggle room or 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: pilot calls in sick and then what do you do? 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: And then you don't have another pilot to fill in. 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: So that's why American Southwest now you nine it. They're 106 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: doing this proactive saying that they're gonna slim down their schedule, 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: that they need more available pilots and planes and less 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: demand on the system. Now, what can you do? And 109 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: we were asking the editor over at Skiff today the 110 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: travel sites, what do you do? He said, well, not 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: a lot you can. You know, you go and either 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: your plane's going to go or not, and then you 113 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: deal with it. But he said, you can't avoid this. 114 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: If you're able to, you're you're not always able to. 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: He says, do this. If you have to connect, maybe 116 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: connect somewhere that you know has better weather, places like Newark, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, 117 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: those can be tough in the summer. Yeah, sometimes you 118 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: can't avoid it. For United Denver and Houston, or a 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: major hub Dallas for American Houston for Southwest, Atlanta for Delta. 120 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: If you want to go somewhere, you may have to 121 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: go through there. But if you have that choice, a 122 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: lot of times connecting can be through the middle of 123 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: the night or early in the morning, can be a 124 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: lot cheaper. But he's saying it may be worth it 125 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: to pay a little bit more and not do a 126 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: connection if you can avoid that connection, because right now 127 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: those hubs are dealing with a lot of weather, and 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: so that's about all you can do. If you're gonna go, 129 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna potentially you have to deal with it. I 130 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: think anybody that's flown any amount over the years knows 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: that there are certain airports you just do not connect through. 132 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: In Chicago's one of them. You can avoid O'Hare Airport, 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: you do that, and anything around New York. I always 134 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: say San Francisco like a black hole as well. You 135 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: get fogged into there and United. That's a big hub 136 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: for United. So you go through there and SFO. But 137 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: then you go over to Oakland and Oakland but you 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: can't do a lot of United flying. That'd be Southwest. 139 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: But you go over to Oakland, no fog, You're good 140 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: to go. You go into San Francisco, whoops, four hour 141 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: delay or we can't go, it's too FuG You gotta 142 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: know where you're gonna go. Let me ask you this, 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: what criteria do they use when they cancel flights like 144 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: the day of or the day before. Is it just 145 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: because they realize they're not going to have the staffing 146 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: or is there something else that goes into it, like 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: there's not enough booking on it? Well, I demand it 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: depends on what it is that might they say, hey, 149 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: look there's only ten passengers on this, let's combine these two. Sure, now, 150 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: that's not a lot of that's going on right now 151 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: because everything is so jammed, or that plane needs to 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: be in the city that it's going too, so they 153 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: can't delay that one. And then you got to think 154 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: about compensation and when do they have to compensate you. 155 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: If it is weather, they don't have to compensate you 156 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: at all. So if they can say this was whether 157 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: you're out of luck in them giving you a hotel 158 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: room or food voucher or anything like that. If it 159 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: is a staffing issue, if it is a maintenance issue, 160 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: different ballgame. You can argue for things then, but with 161 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: a lot of it, you're gonna this last week, we're 162 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: flying out of Burbank on an airline where there was 163 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: only one plane going, watching everybody get in line and 164 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: demand things. Right now, we're only delayed about an hour 165 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: and a half. But you put me on another flight 166 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: and it was like, we're out of Burbank. Do you 167 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: think there is another plane going to Seattle except for 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: the one that is going right now that is broken 169 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: and they're not able to fly except a few hours 170 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: from now another one will come in and go. But 171 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you got to be realistic about it as well. If 172 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: there's one plane that goes to Seattle and it's broken, 173 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: you're probably just gonna have to wait and give them 174 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: a couple hours drive a part over from lax And 175 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: that's what they did, and then then we were able 176 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: to fly. I have to fly to Chicago July fourth weekend. 177 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I ought to drive all good luck, it's gonna 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: be busy, all right, Alex, thank you very much. You 179 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: gotta have a good weekend. Thanks guy. Now it's Alex Stone, 180 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: ABC News for KFI about the summer air travel problem. 181 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: It's still the usual list. Weather pilot shortages and now 182 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: air traffic control problems shortages there too as well. All right, 183 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: as soon as I come back pretty much right away. 184 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: You are going to hear the latest keyword for your 185 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: chance at a thousand dollars. Remember, you enter it at 186 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: the website kfi AM sixty dot com or use the app. 187 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: That's the way you enter the contest to possibly win 188 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: one thousand bucks. John and Ken show kfi AM six forty. 189 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: Yesterday a pack crowd showed up. It was a day 190 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: long public hearing by the California Air Resources Board. God, 191 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: we've been talking about con for what twenty years? Remember 192 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and six they passed the Climate Change Act 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: California Global Warming Act, that's when Schwarzenegger was governor. Well, 194 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: they are still trying to carry out that in many 195 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: other directives to reduce California's carbon emissions. No other state 196 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: really does what we do. No other country like China 197 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: or India does what we do, So for it to matter, 198 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: they would have to. But that doesn't stop the virtue signaling, 199 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: but the hardships on the California population. So here's what 200 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,359 Speaker 1: they want to do. They want to increase electricity consumption 201 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: in the state by as much as sixty eight percent 202 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: by twenty forty five. Now think about that for a moment. 203 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: We faced, of course, some power blackouts a couple of 204 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: years ago when the normal electricity consumption was too much 205 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: for the grid. Now, in just twenty three years, they're 206 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: going to increase electricity consumption sixty eight percent. I don't 207 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: know how they're going to achieve that. And what they 208 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: were full of yesterday in this meeting was not only 209 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: people that said, oh my god, California ratepayers aren't gonna 210 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: be able to bear this bird and we've already got 211 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: like thirty percent of the state that's in poverty. Are 212 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: you out of your minds? And then there were the 213 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: activists saying you're not going far enough because some of 214 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: what they want to do is called carbon capture. They 215 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: want to use technologies to capture the carbon. They're trying 216 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: to convince the activists that maybe we can't curb all 217 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: the emissions in the state as quickly as we'd like to, 218 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: particularly people driving cars. So we have these ideas for 219 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: carbon capture. But here is the plan. They want to 220 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: scale back the use of fossil fuels by nine by 221 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: the year twenty forty five, and they want you in 222 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: electric cars, and they want you using wind and solar 223 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: for most of your power for your home or your office. 224 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: They want to fulfill state mandates to reduce carbon EMISSI 225 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: forty percent below nineteen ninety levels by twenty thirty. And 226 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: here's the biggie, We're going to be carbon neutral by 227 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: the year twenty forty five. Four hundred and fifty people 228 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: lined up to speak. The hearing lasted twelve hours, and 229 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: as I said, it was full of environmentalists and their 230 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: supporters who rallied outside that it does not go far 231 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: enough to do this. California will need about thirty times 232 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: more electric vehicles on the road, six times more electric 233 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: appliances and homes to replace gas appliances, sixty times more 234 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: hydrogen supply, four times more wind and solar generation capacity. 235 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: I read those numbers. They come from researchers at the 236 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: California Air Resources Board. They're probably underestimates of what it's 237 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: going to take to do this. And as a side story, 238 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: the El Segundo Times ran an editorial today their editorial 239 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: board criticizing Gavin Newsom and the rest of the state 240 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: wonks because they want to continue to use gas powered plants. 241 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: You see, journalists and activists are all in. They do 242 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: not care how much it's going to cost you, how 243 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: much it's going to change your life. They just want 244 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: you to do this. We need to move completely away 245 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: from all carbon products, and we need to do it today. 246 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom instead and so did the legislature. Well, they're 247 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: pretty safe in the elections. But if there was a 248 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: bunch of blackouts, and they were blackouts time and time again, 249 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: as we try to achieve carbon neutrality because there's just 250 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: not enough electricity and it's too damn expensive, that's eventually 251 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: going to cost them votes. That's going to be the problem. 252 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: It's easy for the journalists and the activists to stand 253 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: there and demand that we move completely away from fossil fuels, 254 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: and we do it as soon as possible. There's no 255 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: enough wind and solar. How much have we talked about 256 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: the weather. California gets a lot of sun, but the 257 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: sun goes down. California gets wind, but it doesn't get 258 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: wind all the time. You can't have exactly what you 259 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: want at the time you want. There may not be 260 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: enough wind and solar to power the state, which is 261 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: why they're trying to keep some of the natural gas 262 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: plants open. This angers the LSA Gundo Times Editorial Board. 263 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: This anger is the activists because that's also fossil fuel. 264 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: You've been hearing about how they're already decided that a 265 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: new construction you're going to have to go all electric. 266 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: They're going to get rid of gas stoves in your house, right, 267 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: gas to fuel your stove, same thing with the water 268 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: heater not going to be gas. It's going to have 269 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: to be electric. This is going to affect the restaurant businesses, 270 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: is going to affect people in their lives, and it's 271 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: going to cost more. We already have the highest electricity 272 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: rates in the entire country. Think about what a move 273 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: in this direction is going to do for the forty 274 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: million people who live here. So they're going to have 275 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: more hearings. They want to move forward with this plan. 276 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: But you know, the other thing that's still out there 277 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: is whether or not to stop this closure of a 278 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: nuclear power plant. That's what they also want to do 279 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: is Diablo Canyon. They want to close a nuclear power plant. 280 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: They're going to realize if they really want to move 281 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: away from fossil fuels, that they can't do it entirely. 282 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: That they're going to have to rely on some natural 283 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: gas and some nuclear energy, which isn't fossil fuels, but 284 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: is also hated by the activists and the journalists. All right, 285 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: coming up next, we will be talking the George gascon 286 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: recall a little development today concerning the signature verification process 287 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and of course the all important looming deadline to get 288 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: those signatures. In John and Ken Show here on kf 289 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: I AM six forty, we will also be talking to 290 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: a legal expert about, of course, the overwhelming story of 291 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the day, the release finally of the US Supreme Court 292 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: decision which overturns the nineteen seventy three ruling known as 293 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Rowe versus Wade, giving a constitutional right to an abortion 294 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: that has been wiped away. Up to the states to 295 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: decide whether or not or how legal an abortion is. 296 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: They've been able to put restrictions on it, but now 297 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: they can probably outright just to ban it, and a 298 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: number of states are likely to do that. We'll have 299 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: the moist line and we'll have a hack for the 300 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: dumpster in about an hour. Right now, though, we turn 301 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: to an important matter that's been going on for months 302 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: and is finally coming down to the deadline, and that's 303 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: the effort to recall La County District Attorney George Gasconne recall. 304 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: DA George gascon dot com is the website. There's been 305 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: a couple of developments, but we're going to talk right 306 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: now to Tim Weinberger with the recall. Tim, welcome back 307 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: to the show. Hey, Ken, thanks so much for reality. 308 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Sure tell folks, today is a big deadline for mailing, 309 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: right yeah. Absolutely. We're asking everybody who has a petition 310 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: or who wants to download one from home today that 311 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: if they're planning on mailing it, they put it in 312 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: the mail this evening or today is really the last 313 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: day moving forward, we'd like everybody to use our drop 314 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: off locations that are located throughout the county or go 315 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: to one of our petition signing events. All of that 316 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: is listed online and it should be really easy to find. 317 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: As you said it recalled da George gastone dot com. 318 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: That way, we just ensure we get those petitions in 319 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: our hands with enough time to count and verify and 320 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: batch them on our end without having to wait for 321 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: the mail system. So please if you do have one, 322 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: and we also encourage everybody if you haven't signed yet, 323 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: to sign and return those in person. So now another 324 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: issue because you guys just put out a news release 325 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: that you're urging the county Registrar here in La County 326 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: to count every signature that's submitted and not just take 327 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: a sample. Now, some listeners might be confused by that. 328 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: We've followed efforts with petitions over the years, so we 329 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: understand how this happens. But explain to people what you 330 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: mean by this, because they think, wait a minute, if 331 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: I signed a petition, the register should be looking at 332 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: my petition and verifying my signature. You mean he might 333 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: not explain what that is. Yeah, yeah, you would think so, right. 334 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: So essentially the county Registrar when we submit these signatures 335 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: on July sixth, ultimately they have the option, it's technically 336 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: within their power to count every signature that we submit 337 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: them if we're hoping will be be between six hundred 338 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: and seven hundred thousand signatures or just a small batch 339 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: about five percent, and make the determination rather what how 340 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: the recall is qualified just off of that small amount. 341 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: So the reason why that's a really significant problem or 342 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: potential for a problem, is that there it's kind of 343 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: a back room process for how those signatures are actively 344 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: actually selected. So there's not a lot of transparency around 345 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: which petitions they would ultimately do for the five percent 346 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: and for some reason select their bad batch, it would 347 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: recall the spailed right there. So we want to ensure 348 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: every petition has counting them. That's what we're urging the 349 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: register to do, especially given just a large amount that's 350 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: been collected and needs to be submitted. We be totally inappropriate. Okay, 351 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: can we get a tim We're going to have to 352 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: reconnect with the signal is really bad. Let's see if 353 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: we can't get a better sell signal from Tim Leinberger 354 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: is with the recall DA George Gascone campaign. What he's 355 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: talking about is and it says they're deliberating which method 356 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: that they will use. The county Registrar here in La 357 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: County could count verify every signature, or they could just 358 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: do a sample batch of five percent of all the signatures, 359 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: which would make it kind of risky signature roulette for 360 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: the recall people who spent so much time on this. 361 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: They prefer that they look at every petition and verify 362 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: every signature. We realize it's a lot. It could be 363 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: close to seven hundred thousand sub July sixth Okay, Tim 364 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: hopefully we've got a better sell. Hey, Ken, is that 365 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: any better? That does sound better? I was just asking 366 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: what determines it says they're deliberating which method that they 367 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: will use, so they have a choice. Yeah, it's somewhat 368 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: of an arbitrary and bureaucratic process. So that's why we're 369 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: urging publicly that they do what we believe would be 370 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: appropriate in the situation and actually count the entire submission. Ken, 371 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: you're just trying to put public pressure on them or sure? Yeah, 372 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: we just want people to understand what's going on with 373 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: this process so that they know what goes on at 374 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: the time and understand, you know, the reasoning or at 375 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: least what's happening when whatever decision is ultimately made. And 376 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: certainly we want our message to be clear that we're 377 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: asking for all of these signatures to be counted. And 378 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: you're literally going over there on July sixth with hundreds 379 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: of thousands of petitions and signatures. Is that what you're 380 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: going to do? Yeah, that's correct. I believe a bunch 381 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: of the victims who have been involved in this effort 382 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: will probably attend with us. It will be quite a show, 383 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: just in terms of the mass quantity of signatures that 384 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: will be bringing over. So we're excited for that day 385 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: and just trying to build, you know, as much of 386 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: an additional cushion as we can in the interim. How 387 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: long do you think it's going to take for this 388 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: process to come up with a conclusion as to whether 389 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: or not this is good for the ballot. Yeah, it's 390 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: technically supposed to be thirty working days. And the interesting 391 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: part that I'll note about the sample batch process, Let's 392 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: say they actually did that on went that route. If 393 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: they for some reason determined we didn't meet it by 394 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: just looking at the five percent, we would then, as 395 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: my understanding is challenge that in court and seek that 396 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: they actually count the full batch anyway, So we'd probably 397 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: wind up in the same place. So again, it would 398 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: just make no sense to not start off by just 399 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: counting the whole batch in the thirty working days they have, Yeah, 400 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: because if they sample five percent, they'll be quicker. But 401 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: you're saying, if they come back and say no, then 402 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: you're going to challenge that and they may have to 403 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: go back and go through all this gets anyway, the 404 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: whole thing anyway. Correct. Yeah, Okay, So yeah, all right, 405 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 1: you guys feeling confident here. I think every day has 406 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: more petitions come in, We're feeling more and more confident. 407 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: We continue to have these you know, obstacles, you know, 408 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: whether it's the Registrar or what you were discussing earlier 409 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: with the envelope that was sent with the powder substance 410 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: in it to our volunteers. Yeah, it's not but yeah, 411 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: at this point, I don't think any of that's going 412 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: to stop us. So we're all pretty determined to make 413 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: this happen. And the more petitions that continue to come in, 414 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: the more encouraged we are. And there's no shortage of 415 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: stories that have been running in the news lately about 416 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: George Gascon's policies that shouldn't fire up people to sign 417 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: this petition. You got to believe that. Yeah, I think 418 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: we're certainly seeing that. On the ground. It's been, you know, 419 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: pretty easy to walk up to folks and ask them 420 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: to sign, and unfortunately that just speaks to, you know, 421 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: how really timely this effort is. We gotta get it done. 422 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: We gotta get it done now. It's another reason why 423 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: we don't want the registrar to delay the process because 424 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: their real life consequences playing out as a result of 425 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: gascon policy. So time with a the essence with this 426 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: whole thing in our opinion. All right, Tim, thanks for 427 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: joining me. Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you so much. It's 428 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Tim Leinberger with the Recall Da George Gascon campaign. To reiterate. 429 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: That's the website, recall da George gascone dot com. That's 430 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: what you enter. I don't know if there's still some 431 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: phony websites out there still purporting to be part of 432 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: the recall. It's recall da George gascone dot com. You 433 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: can download the petition and you've got to get it 434 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: in the mail today. All petitions should be dropped off, 435 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: not mailed, at one of the campaign's permanent signing locations, 436 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: by no later than June thirtieth. So if you can't 437 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: get it in the mail today, you have to find 438 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: your way to a signing location where you can drop 439 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: off the petition or just go there and sign the petition. 440 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: They're still going to be doing that for a few 441 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: more days. Remember it was back on just a few 442 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: weeks ago. They announced June fifteenth that they had surpassed 443 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty six eight hundred and fifty seven. 444 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: That's the raw signatures they need for a recall. But 445 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: what we're after now is the cushion. And when that 446 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: story went out, the misinterpretation by some people who could be, oh, yeah, 447 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: it's qualified for the ballot. No signatures are going to 448 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: be thrown out. And hopefully they don't use a sampling method, 449 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: but they could be throwing out twenty percent. One expert 450 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: says thirty percent of the signatures. So they need a 451 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: big cushion to get maybe up to seven hundred thousand 452 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: signatures turned in. More coming up with the John and 453 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: Ken Show here on KFI AM six forty stories about 454 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: the summer of rage is coming thanks to the Row 455 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: versus Wade decision. You know, the one thing about Americans, 456 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: they absorb a story, they overreact to it, they get 457 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: loud for a while, and then they just dissipate and 458 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: they have to Trump won the election. Protests went on 459 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. I can't imagine this is 460 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: really going to be the summer of rage of a 461 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Row v. Wade. It really affects a small number of people, 462 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: and the passion on both is still collectively a small 463 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: number of people. And abortion is not illegal. So I 464 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: don't think this is going to be as big, but 465 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: that's what the media does. The day a story breaks, 466 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: it's like the biggest thing ever. And then, you know, 467 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: as we like to say on the show, wait three 468 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: days and you'll see what it really means to people. 469 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: Big five o'clock hours just ahead, I will talk to 470 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: a legal expert from UCLA about the Supreme Court decision 471 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Rowe versus Wade being overturned. Not a big surprise since 472 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: the draft opinion came out a couple of months ago 473 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: and we knew this is probably what was going to 474 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: happen unless a judge changed their mind. But anyway, it 475 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: was a five to four decision. The interesting one there 476 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: was Judge Roberts, probably the only one on the court 477 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: now that's whatever the term they use, a moderate. You know, 478 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: he only wanted to overturn the Mississippi law an abortion 479 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: that was at question. He didn't want to overturn all 480 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: of Roe vs. Versus Wade. He kind of carved out 481 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: his own opinion, all right. Also the moist line, those 482 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: folks are here at five twenty and again at five 483 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: fifty year chants and winning a thousand dollars for the 484 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: final time. Today comes up at a round five twenty 485 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: and also next hour, we do have mob members here 486 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: led by Sevetlana to throw a hack in the dumpster. 487 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: This was a late entry. This story just popped up. 488 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: It may have been yesterday or the day before. We 489 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: may have thrown this hack into the dumpster years ago, 490 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: but I will say this, they deserve to go in 491 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: this time, and it's going to take a little extra effort. 492 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: This one's kind of hefty, so we may have to 493 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: have our muscular mob members step forward and do the 494 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: task of throwing our hack in the dumpster. Coming up 495 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: bath to the news at five thirty. Well, Deborah Mark, 496 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: do you ever believe in the legend of the jet 497 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: pack guy? Yeah? Do you think that's you think that's 498 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: just somebody? Well, since pilots are reporting it, yeah, people 499 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: tend to think, you know, they're up in the skies 500 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: all the time, they see things. They should be able 501 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: to pick out a man with a jetpack versus I 502 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: don't know what was this? An inflatable Jack Skellington from 503 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: the Nightmare Before Christmas film. That's supposedly what was captured 504 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: back in November of twenty twenty. It's a skeleton like 505 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: balloon that they think might have been an inflatable yea 506 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: designed after that movie. It's back in the news today 507 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: because another pilot reported yesterday just before three o'clock, fifteen 508 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: miles east of the airport that he believes he saw 509 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: a jetpack man. No, we've had several of these reports 510 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: over the years. The FAA has worked with the FBI 511 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: to investigate each one, and so far none of them 512 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: have been verified. In fact, back in November, LAPD released 513 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: video of some strange looking balloons that they thought could 514 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: have been responsible for the jetpack and then, as I mentioned, 515 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: the big one was the inflatable Jack Skellington from The 516 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Nightmare before Christmas. So, if there really is a guy 517 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: out there doing this, he's been doing this for a 518 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: couple of years. I don't necessarily believe it. I was 519 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: just gonna say, do you believe that there's this guy 520 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: out there? I know, I don't think so. I don't 521 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: really believe that. And I know since you're a real 522 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: astrology fan. We've got the planet parade going on again. 523 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 1: Five planets are aligning in the night sky. Our night 524 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: skies are so horrendous because we have so much light 525 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: and then we have fog that we have aulstars of. 526 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, it might be parts of southern California. Well, 527 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: you can see Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn lining 528 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: up in planetary order. I'm hoping that I'm going to 529 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: get some good luck. That's what I'm thinking about this. Yeah, 530 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: the age of Aquarius. Yeah, why not? Eric is shaking 531 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: his head. But of course I think we're all in 532 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: for some Hey, look, but you have to get up early. 533 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: It's pre dawn. Don't think youre gonna get good luck. 534 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Nless you go out there and see it. Oh no, 535 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just going to visualize it. I'm not 536 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: getting up there. You go, Yes, you catch the parade 537 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: if you look towards the east and south into the 538 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: solar system. That's if you want to see the planetary alignment. 539 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: You can also probably find a good place to do it. Um, 540 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: it's it's pre dawn, so it's in and the dawn. 541 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty early these days, it's like five thirty or 542 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: something like that. It'll last for most of the month. 543 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: It'll continue for the rest of this month, so you 544 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: still have another week or so to check out the 545 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: planetary alignment. All right. When I return, I will talk 546 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: to a legal expert from UCLA and he will interpret 547 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: the Roe versus Wade decision by the Supreme Court to 548 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: overturn the nineteen seventy three abortion or ruling. 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