WEBVTT - The Suspect 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:05.440 The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:08.920 those of the authors and participants and do not necessarily 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.920 represent those of iHeart Media, Tenderfoot TV, or their employees. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:18.119 This series contains discussions of violence and sexual violence. Listener 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:24.600 discretion is advised. Previously on Algorithm, police in haim In, 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.320 Indiana investigated Africa Hardy's murder. What time do you think 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.800 you got the hotel? Police learned Africa had last spoken 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.680 with her friend Shamika at five thirteen. Africa told her 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.800 a client had just arrived at her motel room. What 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:46.879 number did you call her from? Number? Police worked through 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.599 the night and use cell phone records and surveillance footage 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.800 to track down the vehicle the suspect had driven. They 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.520 learned that the jeep and cell phone were both registered 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.200 to a woman named Regina Beard. Two officers drove out 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.240 to her home and Gary, Indiana, and in front of 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.800 the house was the blue jeep they were looking for. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.080 From my Heart Radio and Tenderfoot TV, this is Algorithm, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.880 I'm ben key Brick. The lead detective on the case, 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.400 Sean Ford, and his supervisor, Captain Zeke Kinajosa, also traveled 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.240 out to the suspects home. Together, the officers went up 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.880 to the house and knocked on the door. A young 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.520 woman answered. They told her that they had a warrant 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.600 to search the home, and she let them in. Inside, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.680 Kinahosa saw a bald man in his mid forties that 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.039 resembled the man that they'd seen on the motel's surveillance footage, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.720 and they saw a puffy jacket hanging on a chair 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.320 in the kitchen, similar to the one the suspect had 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.680 been wearing. Kinajosa instructed the bald man to come into 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.240 the living room, but the man stood his ground. Again. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.920 Hinahosa demanded that the man surrender himself to police, and 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.280 again the man didn't comply. Two officers rushed him, threw 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.320 him to the ground, and handcuffed him. Police then secured 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.440 the building. Detective Ford brought the young woman who'd answered 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.480 the door into a side room. He asked her if 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.720 anyone had been driving the blue jeep. She said yes, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.160 the man they had handcuffed had driven it. He was 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.239 her uncle, Darren Vaughan, and he'd been looking after her 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.520 while her mother was on vacation. Detective Ford returned to 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.359 the kitchen and helped the suspect Darren Von up from 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.480 the ground. Ford asked Vaughan if he knew why they 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.920 were there. Vaughn told them that he did know, and 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.640 said that he'd messed up by leaving Gary. Vaughn said 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.239 he was surprised by how quickly police had located him. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.960 He said that Gary police don't work on weekends. Detective 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.320 Ford noticed a button was missing from Vaughn's shirt, and 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.920 he remembered that they'd found a button in the motel 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.440 room where Africa had been killed. When they further searched 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.680 the house, they found Africa Hardias missing cell phone on 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.840 top of a cabinet in the kitchen. Beside it was 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:05.280 an extension cord with its ends cut off. Police informed 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.520 Vaughan that he was under arrest and they put him 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.519 in the back of a squad car. According to a 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.480 police report, Vond told the officers in the car to 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.760 bring a prosecutor down to the station. He said that 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.079 the district attorney would want to hear what he had 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.160 to say. At the station, he asked the booking officers 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.440 for toilet paper and started to cry. He said that 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.600 he was tired and just wanted to get this all 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:33.280 over and done with. At eight thirty pm on Saturday 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:38.000 oct Detective Forward and Captain Hinojosa brought Vaughan into a 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.800 small room. It was the exact same room that Shamika 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.960 had sat in the night before. You want some and 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.280 what you're about to hear has never before been made public. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.640 That's Vawn. They're asking if police had done the two 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.840 things that he asked them to do. It's a strange interview. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.400 Vaughn is trying to cut himself some kind of a 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.520 deal and the detectives want him to talk, but they 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.920 also need to follow procedure and we're not going to 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.520 pressure you. Everything today is kind of your own free 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.359 willy right here? All right, that's Detective Sean Ford. Like 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.719 I said before, if you understand each of these, I 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.119 want you to put your initials next to him because 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.880 it shows we went over the phone together. He has 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.680 Vaughn read through his Miranda rights. Is there anything that 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.440 you need to explain? No, And that's Captain Kinejosa. We 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.160 got me all nervous. I feel like I mean and 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:38.960 evaluate today with my bossing around here, I don't like 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.719 to try to play themerga scientists around trying to play 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.080 some camp, mouse games or something like that. Can come 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.760 here kind of tell a something anyway? All right, I 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:56.800 knew y'all come about me the fake on purpose? Okay? 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.680 What in your own words? What would you say has 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.560 brought you here today inside of this room with us? 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.720 Why do you think you were arrested? Especial? I'm like Hamley, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.839 I'm gonna say a MURDERKA say murder, A murder of who? 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.080 I can't really give her night because I don't know 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:20.240 her night? Okay, that occurred where I don't really know? 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:27.400 Y'all road saying a multa which one see mot y'all sex? 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:33.280 All right? Remember the rule number? Just not talking from 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.039 putney deal a good? Right? Okay, Well here's here's what 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.279 are your concerns? What are you looking for it? Because 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.480 here's our thing. We can't necessarily play take a deal 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.880 anyone legally? Is you ready? We can't promise you anything, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.840 but just why to say? Folk? So well, let me 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.440 let me just what are you trying to get out 0:05:53.520 --> 0:06:01.280 of this? How a my and put the death before 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:07.159 my next birthday? The deal that Bond wants is to 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:33.120 be put to death before his next birthday. I want 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.920 to put the death before my next birthday. Okay, that 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.280 that would almost be five. You got death ros your 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.040 multiple murders, I give you. I can get death. But 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.200 listen real quick here. They don't have to say out 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.039 that quick thought. Wait. Wait, I noticed for faith, because 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:56.200 if I wave on my rights, I give you three 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.359 or four murders. I had a right you put to death, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.520 and I'm willing to give you the body and a location. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.240 I think they will give him my death row. Let 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.560 me ask you that are they all locally? And then yeah, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.600 I can give you anything. I could give some out 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:18.320 of inn but had then I would have. We don't 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.760 need a better deal with y'all. You can just talk 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.800 about it now. I have to go to deal because 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.360 I have to make sure I get death row. Then 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.640 Von tells them that he doesn't want to go through 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:33.040 a trial in the whole legal process. Instead, he wants 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.360 to sign a plea bargain guaranteeing him the death penalty 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.840 in exchange for confessing to other murders. Y'all got one. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.520 I'm trying to get y'all areas, But that's what I'm saying. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.280 The prosecutor doesn't really look into things until we complete 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.440 our investigation. I'm trying to give them death. Then give 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.040 y'all the bodies. So for the one we have, imple 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.760 did that purpose, so y'all't even have to do a 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.200 DNA out of Well, let's listen, if we can do this, 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.360 want to get through it and have the conversation and 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.000 match it up with the evidence we already have, and 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.520 we we can establish your credibility that you're legit, because say, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.520 you could be crazy. You could be sitting here and 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:17.040 talking some man Crady on five eight Motail six, Room one, 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.600 five eight. That's all there for you. Room was the 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:26.239 motel room where Africa's body was found. Information that Vaughan 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.560 would have no reason to know unless he was involved 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.520 in the murder. That is right. Now, are do you 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.760 believe that you're here to be questioned about it or 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.839 are you saying that you did it? I'm here to 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.120 be question about the coach. I'm not sure that's why 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.400 you dollar agrests the game. Well, of course that's part 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.120 of all of completing and that's fairly recent, right, this 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:54.080 is Friday. So going back to the question, and you 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.320 know you're saying that you know you're not wanting to 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.199 contest the issue, but this one makes rigue out. That's 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.160 what I'm saying. I understand what I'm gonna do what 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.720 you won't at your room one five mates, I only 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.280 reason I know that I knew it. I can even 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.599 tell you where you found the body? Where do we 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.199 find the body in a shower with the water running? 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:21.760 What happened that part? I'm not really sure about. I 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.520 know where I put it after but during my act rays, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.199 I really don't remember a lot of stuff. So you 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:36.760 get enjoy it. Act always always Okay, okay, how how 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.640 did you get connected with this person in this room? 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.000 How did you get connected? She had a head? We're 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:47.400 right crazy? Okay, do you remember anything about that? And 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.120 specifically you've got a picture in it where she has 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:55.599 curly hair. That's a long enough, that's a picture I 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:00.959 caught mine. Bond said that in the ad Africa went 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.679 by the name Octavia, which lined up with what Shamika 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:09.320 had told police. As a warning, this next section gets 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.839 very graphic, but I think it's important to acknowledge the 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:19.400 reality of Vaughan's crimes. I'm also compete her earlier baby sitting. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.520 She called me back, I sure was higg and I 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:28.199 went what was she by herself in the room. Did 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:29.880 you have to have any drinks or anything like that 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:36.560 in there? Try not to drink makes your worst? Did 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.720 you pay her the money right away as soon as 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.400 you walked in? Yeah, I thought I had little bath room. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:46.160 Went to the bathroom. She got undressed from the bottom down. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:53.080 I got undressed. Really be we kinda said, she saunds 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:57.520 too rough. Factually I'm really rough. And I didn't really 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.839 give her a time though. You just right to get adjusted, right, 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.280 And then she started like crying. She started crying, right, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.160 you let me keep going for man, I guess when 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.760 I didn't slow down and you get mad and hit me, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.120 and she's trying to say, you mean to hit anybody? 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:20.520 It was too late. I started choking her. And after 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:25.960 that is anybody's ball game? What were you choking her? 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.600 Was at first with my hand. Is this that anger 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.000 we're trying to controller, not a thought anger because she 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:38.720 struck me? Is your choking or did she continue this trouble? Yes? Okay, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:46.680 this shooms consciousness. Have your same person choked? Yeah? Where 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.319 they're they're not unconscious, but they're not I don't know 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:58.000 how to say it. They're defenseless. Yeah, they're defenseless. Yeah, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:02.880 do your best words to say defense us, Like I 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.360 told you, get funnic. I know I hit her and 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:11.440 I threw off the bed. I remember that, I remember 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.640 showing it. I don't know any talents like he. I 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.719 know I hit her close best. I don't know. I 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.880 don't know if our karality character because I remember my 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.280 hand going up coming down. I remember a knee And 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.640 now I just know I choked her. I couldn't even 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:36.520 say I just choked her. You ever get so made 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.040 like and then when you realize what you did, and 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:43.240 I'm like, I made like a big mistake. I know 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.559 she was dead when she hit the floor. When she 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.680 one day, it definitely made me reached for the horde. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:55.080 I was like, I gotta finished this. When I first 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:59.400 heard this part of the confession, my heart dropped. Bon 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.400 said is that when Africa hit him, he went into 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.200 a blind rage and started choking her. When he calmed 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.199 down and gained awareness about what had happened, Von thought 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.040 that he had killed Africa and panicked, but he hadn't 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:19.360 actually killed her. She started stirring, and now outside of 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:23.560 his rage, Von made the conscious decision to strangle her 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.960 to death already almost killed her, like I'm out of whale, finished, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.600 And I was like, it's kind of like a pang, 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.760 because that wasn't the purpose of me going here. Okay, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.120 there wasn't a purpose, but in your mind you had 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.439 almost killed her pride, And I was like you You're 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.640 got have stopped, right. I couldn't, yeah, because but you didn't. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.200 I did. If you would have stopped and just left. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.080 What did you feel when a pet I'm the very prisoner, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.559 he said. I had to kill her with all of 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.320 like instincts I always reached for in the year's weapon 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:04.559 was record tell she NiFe? Always weapon? In this particular 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:10.160 resident STI cord centric cork. Where was that a carr 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:15.240 An e cure guy anymore? The detectives are confused about this. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.559 If he wasn't intending to kill Africa, why did he 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.200 bring gloves and a weapon with him to the motel. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.840 His response was that he always carries these things with him. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.280 The weapon, I can imagine maybe for self defense. The 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.640 gloves though, just in case he needs to dispose of 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.680 a body. If a snap always carry up her gloves? 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.960 What kind of gloves? I know? We could have been 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.040 a row one he could have been a white ones 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.040 are Swiss gloves or Swiss clothes? I swish so much 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.600 stuff have been joined this for years now? What's the 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.040 purpose of wearing the gloves? May surely your favorite print. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.760 I can't decide if I believe him that Africa's murder 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.240 wasn't premeditated, or if he's just lying for some reason, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:10.040 trying to justify the murder through twisted logic. Obviously he's 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.600 not trying to escape a conviction. He willingly admits he's 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.760 guilty of murdering her, But maybe this is the way 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.840 that he tries to justify the murder to himself. We're 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.880 faced with a problem here, one that we're often faced 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.840 with in cases like this. Only Vaughan knows many of 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.080 the details of what he did, and only he knows 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.880 why he did it. But when someone cares so little 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.280 about others that they're willing to murder a stranger in 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.240 cold blood, I don't think they're going to lose any 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.920 sleep about lying. How did you get her to the 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:53.440 bathroom drug not to wear a shower? I'm there, I'll 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:59.240 fighting stuff moment. Reasons for doing that. I hadn't always 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:04.240 moved victims do you always put the victims in the 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:11.240 same place. No, never wait, are you see Jill and 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.040 I can't bring you over an away and you could 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.600 that bring another during this Eventually you'll be able to know. No, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.560 I don't want to. You don't want you right because 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.640 I want my dad grow and I can't have more 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:27.280 than one stay fighting. That's only that would prolong the process. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.240 All right, Talent can get you out of stuff that's recent. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:35.040 How many people are you responsible for killing? Said this lifetime. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.200 I couldn't even too and Indiana, I said, I couldn't 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.840 even tell you. I could tell you the ones I 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.480 want to give you, I can't tell you the ones 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.800 that would incriminating somebody else. Okay, the ones that you 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.800 want to give us. Are they all males or females? 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.480 I'm going to give your female a female the male 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.520 if I can't give you because I was paid to 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:04.760 do them, okay, and that would put somebody else. What's 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:08.600 you're concerned about? That? My me going on? But we've 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.120 always had to code. We don't never put nobody else 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:18.040 the females. How are these females skilled? All strang like? Well, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:25.240 trying to think har one knife? Oh my gun? They 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.080 will kill the female, would have done not in Indiana. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.159 Never killed a female with a gun in Indiana. Okay, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.240 I think it's a knife line in Indiana. I'm trying 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.320 to do between Primes and India. They were all strangled. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.679 The one I'm gonna give you all the strangled. That's 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.879 the best way I could say it. Okay, are there 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.800 any other big ones in Hammond? In Hammon? Not that 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:53.879 I asked here? One was the other victims from Anna. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.879 In so many years, I'm done a crime. I'm in 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.920 heaven in so many years. How can you remember? There 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.160 was a There was a girl a long time ago 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.080 whose body was on the railroad tracks. Most of the 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.840 victims that Hargrave's algorithm had identified were found in the 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.199 city of Gary, but one victim, Yvonne Wallace, was actually 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.879 found in Hammond, strangled near some train tracks in the 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:26.520 summer of ninety six, eighteen years earlier. There's one girl 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.080 had it. There's one girl in him, and I don't know. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.080 I have claimed the body, so I wouldn't know where 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.680 she's at. I said, haven't joined this for years. I'm 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.160 on trying to get one as close because I remember 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.440 what about any that the bodies I never found. That's 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:49.920 trying to give you not probably give you two four? 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.760 Can we can we start with with this real quick 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.600 like obviously this incident Hanton on Friday. What is freshest 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.760 in your mind from there? That the one murder just 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:06.320 previous to the Motel State Ranky, the one before the 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:11.240 Motio State State. Here, Darren Vaughan says he can't give 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:16.000 detectives information about the murderer he committed just before Africa Hardy, 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.960 because it took place out of state and he doesn't 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.800 want to involve other jurisdictions. I want to point this 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.560 out because they'll soon change his story. We can't always 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.879 know when Vaughn is telling the truth, but we can 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.320 catch him in lies when he contradicts himself. We can 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.080 learn something important from these lies about the extent and 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:41.440 the nature of his crimes. Ranky, the one before the 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:48.760 Motio State State, the one before him. It's somebody I 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:54.800 knew changing well that obviously, that would be an easy 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.159 one to start with if you know her well. I 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.440 don't know where nor like I know where from the streets. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.480 Her nickname on the streets was cast where she was 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:10.360 a prostitute. She's a Caucasian, but the real big here. Yeah, 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:17.160 as you said, some people say bev w she's thirty two. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.600 I'm not gonna put it not older because she is. 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.520 I wouldn't think so, yes, I don't know this blonde 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:29.080 or brown? My color blind. So where'd you kill hern? Oh? 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:31.800 So you're gonna tell you that the coach in the 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.640 house I killed her? And Gary all even Gary, I'm 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:40.160 giving you so gaspers bodies inside of a an abandoned house. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:45.040 Yeahs her inside of things. And I believe that that 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.399 you kind of want to put it into this, But 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:51.920 would you be willing to to take us and I 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.600 mean almost, I mean I don't always you call it 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.639 like a field trip and just show us your word produence. 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.560 I don't really call it work. I call even my 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.960 mistakes because they didn't really they did something that trigger 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.800 my hanger where I was already angered, but they really 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.120 like cass or cast for with my friends eyes being 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.840 to kill her, what are we going to recover her body? 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.159 I would do a cash for the part because she 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.800 was my friend, she was a good person. We could 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.560 take that right. What we're probably gonna do is we'll 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.000 probably put you in some legs shadows, because this is 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.280 not something we do every day. You take this to 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.040 cash for this Friday, and I'll if I was goin 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.760 to cash the prosecutors, right, I will give you other 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.359 fire someone you promised me they're gonna give me there 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:41.080 pro al Right, go ahead and stand up where hand 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:57.160 cups back on your right. If it isn't already clear 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.800 at this point, this isn't if you've done it. Where 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.480 we're trying to figure out who killed Africa Hardy Darren 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:09.159 Vaughan killed Africa instead. This is a story exploring how 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.159 the police and Gary ignored the signs that there was 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.200 a killer on the loose targeting women in the area. 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.520 They ignored hargrooves warnings when he sent them the letter 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.840 about the algorithm, and they ignored other more obvious clues 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.040 as well. But I'm getting ahead of myself. On October 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.639 at eleven PM, Vaughn told police he'd take them to 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.320 one of the recent murders he'd committed in Indiana. He 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.040 told them he couldn't take them to the most recent 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:43.960 murder before Africa, whereas he knew her Octavia, because he 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.240 said that murder took place out of state and he 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:51.960 didn't want to involve other jurisdictions. Instead, he offered to 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.080 take them to the body of a woman that he 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.840 knew as Casper. But before they were even out the 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.720 door of the interrogation room, Vaughan changed his mind. I 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:03.920 don't know if they found her, and I I'm not 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.960 sure if chars we see wish book, I'll take you 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:12.240 to her body. Before I was there for this racing. Now, 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.680 Vaughan was saying that he could take them to the 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.399 murder directly before Africa, and he was saying that it 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.959 wasn't out of state. In fact, the murder had occurred 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:27.639 in northwest Indiana and the body was in Gary. Investigators 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.400 didn't call him out about the discrepancy. I'm not sure why, 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.560 but I wonder if that's because they weren't sure if 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.200 any of what he was saying was true. But he 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:41.879 promised them a body and they wanted to investigate. With 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.359 Vaughan in handcuffs that linked to the front of his 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:48.680 belt and shackles around his feet, Ford walked him out 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.960 to a squad car, where they met Officer Kelly Mickey. 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.800 What made you decide to get done? I was tired, 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.560 she wrote in a police report that as she talked 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:03.160 to On, she tried to mirror his emotions, a technique 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:07.080 cops used to keep suspects talking, but she struggled to 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.800 mirror him because he was so relaxed and casual while 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:15.880 he described horrific events and scenes. How long does it take? 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.600 Is it always the same? What do you mean to 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:22.440 kill a person? Yeah? What you kill them with? Like you? 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:28.600 Your thing seems to be strangulation? One thing now with strangleletion, 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:32.560 because I'm not what we would have gone. So do 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:37.080 they ever plead for their life? They? Like? Do they 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.880 beg you? That's not like I'm not going to I'm 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.240 not going to. Oh they're trying to just get away 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:50.760 now when you're actually strangling them? Do they no? But 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.280 I mean do they like as anything? I don't know. 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:54.720 I don't even know what I want to ask you? 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.480 You want to ask? No, I don't. I don't know 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.679 how I'm there are I've never killed a human. I mean, 0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.240 I've never killed a cup. You never shot? No, No, 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:13.320 I've been bust I've been busted that way sixteen years. 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:18.040 So I almost shot a couple of people, but God's intervened. 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.040 Did not let the hand the streets. Oh yeah, I 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.080 just became a detective. Okay, well, yeah, I worked the 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:28.600 streets for sixteen years. You've been shot at. I know 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.280 you've been shot at. Yeah, I didn't shot at somebody 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.639 fifteen years ago and hand. Yeah, police called the right 0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.879 m In fact, they almost arrested me with the office 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.240 shooting me down. When he's shaking me down, he made 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.320 the gun fall to the ground. So I just kicking 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.359 the ground while you're searching. Some cops are stupid, ain't they. 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.320 It's like, we don't pay attention. He couldn't have seen it, yeah, 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.720 but they just don't pay attention. It was too dark. 0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:56.720 I made sure it's the dark while I stopped to 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.399 walk day and I walked off and walk back and 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:04.600 got the gun its folds. Vond told them the body 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.879 wasn't an abandoned home, but he couldn't give them exact 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.000 directions to the building because he had always walked there, 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:16.280 taking shortcuts through abandoned lots. Eventually they made it out 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.199 to the four hundred block of East Avenue in Gary. 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.440