1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I am Rashawn McDonald, the host 2 00:00:07,980 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to 3 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start planning their own. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,590 Speaker 1: Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from. 5 00:00:18,510 --> 00:00:22,030 Speaker 2: Around the country, talk to celebrities and ask them how 6 00:00:22,070 --> 00:00:25,130 Speaker 2: they are running their companies and speak with nonprofits who 7 00:00:25,190 --> 00:00:28,220 Speaker 2: are making a difference in their local communities. Now sit 8 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: back and listen as we unlock the secrets to their success. 9 00:00:31,660 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: On Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Please welcome to Money Making 10 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass, the franchise owner of a nothing, bunk, cake location, 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,650 Speaker 1: Charlie Shabazz. How you doing, Charlie? 12 00:00:42,740 --> 00:00:45,589 Speaker 3: I'm wonderful. How are you, Rashawn? I'm happy to be here. 13 00:00:45,610 --> 00:00:46,589 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 14 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:49,550 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, let's talk about the relationship. You know, 15 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:54,810 Speaker 1: in my business, somebody had... A delivery. Gifted me. Yes, 16 00:00:54,850 --> 00:00:56,390 Speaker 1: they did. Your product. 17 00:00:56,410 --> 00:00:56,569 Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. 18 00:00:57,690 --> 00:01:01,490 Speaker 1: I was happy because everybody knows they follow me. They 19 00:01:01,510 --> 00:01:04,730 Speaker 1: know I love sweets. And I immediately invited you because 20 00:01:04,750 --> 00:01:06,289 Speaker 1: I asked you, I said, because, you know, I'm going 21 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:08,470 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I stereotyped her. I thought 22 00:01:08,490 --> 00:01:10,210 Speaker 1: she was just a delivery person. She said, no, I 23 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:13,330 Speaker 1: am the owner of this location. I went, wow. And 24 00:01:13,490 --> 00:01:15,670 Speaker 1: I said, can you come on my show? And we've 25 00:01:15,690 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: been going back and forth because your schedule's been busy. 26 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:21,220 Speaker 1: And finally, you're able to come on my show and 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,020 Speaker 1: talk about what you do. Let's talk about before you 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,020 Speaker 1: made this decision, Charlie, to be a franchisee. So, A 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,580 Speaker 1: little background. 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: I'm a CPA. 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 5: So I've been in accounting my whole life. Always knew 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,940 Speaker 5: I wanted to be an accountant from Philadelphia. I went 33 00:01:34,980 --> 00:01:38,900 Speaker 5: to Temple University for my undergrad in accounting, had a 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,770 Speaker 5: taxation class. And I was like, I want to do taxes. 35 00:01:43,010 --> 00:01:45,410 Speaker 5: So I went and got my master's in taxation. 36 00:01:46,470 --> 00:01:49,050 Speaker 3: And yeah. That's what I did. So I was a 37 00:01:49,310 --> 00:01:52,010 Speaker 3: tax accountant for most of my life. And I thought 38 00:01:52,130 --> 00:01:53,750 Speaker 3: I would do that for the rest of my life. 39 00:01:53,870 --> 00:01:55,610 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something. I am afraid to 40 00:01:55,650 --> 00:01:58,580 Speaker 1: do that. I have a degree in mathematics. You cannot. 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Even the easy form, I get nervous. I swear to you, 42 00:02:02,260 --> 00:02:06,340 Speaker 1: I will go to H & R, whatever, whatever by 43 00:02:06,390 --> 00:02:08,930 Speaker 1: that tax, I would take it easy for you. You know, 44 00:02:09,010 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: just do it. 45 00:02:10,460 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: It's on you. 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,260 Speaker 1: It's on you. So for you, I am like bowing 47 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:17,140 Speaker 1: down to you because you're confidently saying this. Taxes, that's 48 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: what I do. I do taxes, taxes. When you're looking 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,470 Speaker 1: at a guy, and people tell me I'm pretty smart. 50 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:24,350 Speaker 1: My degree, you know, I make a decent list. I'm 51 00:02:24,370 --> 00:02:26,930 Speaker 1: sure you can do your taxes. But I swear to you, 52 00:02:27,050 --> 00:02:29,889 Speaker 1: I will not do my taxes. I've never, ever done 53 00:02:29,930 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: my taxes because they intimidate me. The whole process of 54 00:02:33,340 --> 00:02:36,459 Speaker 1: making a mistake intimidates me. And so that means that 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,340 Speaker 1: you have to be a confident person then, right? 56 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the law changes often, so you're always 57 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,290 Speaker 5: doing your continuing education credits and understanding the new laws. 58 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:52,550 Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. I started out as a personal 59 00:02:52,610 --> 00:02:53,830 Speaker 5: tax return preparer. 60 00:02:53,970 --> 00:02:54,169 Speaker 6: Right. 61 00:02:54,290 --> 00:02:56,930 Speaker 5: And when I moved to Atlanta, I decided I wanted 62 00:02:56,950 --> 00:02:59,450 Speaker 5: to be a business tax return preparer, and I was 63 00:02:59,510 --> 00:03:00,750 Speaker 5: totally intimidated by that. 64 00:03:00,990 --> 00:03:01,810 Speaker 1: Okay. 65 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:04,030 Speaker 3: But I Googled a CPA. 66 00:03:04,389 --> 00:03:04,570 Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. 67 00:03:05,470 --> 00:03:07,060 Speaker 3: I called her. I told her, listen, I want to 68 00:03:07,090 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: work for free. 69 00:03:08,060 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 7: Mm-hmm. 70 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: I don't know business taxes. Can I please come to 71 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:14,090 Speaker 5: your office and you teach me and I learn for free, 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,850 Speaker 5: just free, free, free, free, free, free. So she said, yeah. 73 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:22,850 Speaker 1: So because she asked for your resume and she saw it. 74 00:03:23,130 --> 00:03:26,570 Speaker 1: I'll get this person, this skill set, Temple graduate for free, 75 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:28,589 Speaker 1: knowing what your ultimate goal was. 76 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:29,090 Speaker 3: Exactly. 77 00:03:29,230 --> 00:03:33,650 Speaker 5: So she's a huge mentor for me. And so I 78 00:03:33,669 --> 00:03:36,650 Speaker 5: learned business taxes and then I'll, Had a corporate job. 79 00:03:36,690 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: That's how I moved to Atlanta from Philly. Large bank 80 00:03:40,820 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: made me an offer. 81 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:41,900 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 82 00:03:43,070 --> 00:03:44,250 Speaker 3: That I couldn't refuse. 83 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:47,250 Speaker 5: So I packed up, you know, my little Jeep and 84 00:03:47,290 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: I moved to Atlanta. Found an apartment three days later 85 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: in Tucker. So Tucker has been where I've moved to first. 86 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,490 Speaker 5: Had my first home, had my first job, and now 87 00:03:58,500 --> 00:03:59,390 Speaker 5: the bakery's in Tucker. 88 00:03:59,410 --> 00:04:01,190 Speaker 3: So I have deep roots with Tucker. 89 00:04:01,270 --> 00:04:02,770 Speaker 1: Tucker, Georgia. Yes, Tucker, Georgia. 90 00:04:02,810 --> 00:04:04,370 Speaker 3: Just outside of Atlanta, Georgia. 91 00:04:04,870 --> 00:04:05,650 Speaker 5: Yes, it is. 92 00:04:05,790 --> 00:04:09,190 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about that, the differences, you know. Because 93 00:04:09,210 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: we always talk about fear on this show. You know, 94 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: you moved. You know, you are all female, you know, 95 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,620 Speaker 1: transitioning from another major market to another major market. But 96 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,990 Speaker 1: it was northeast and now to south. Were there any, 97 00:04:23,089 --> 00:04:25,610 Speaker 1: what were the fears in making that move, that decision 98 00:04:25,630 --> 00:04:27,210 Speaker 1: to come to Atlanta? Because there were some. 99 00:04:27,490 --> 00:04:31,050 Speaker 3: There were a lot of fears. But I was done 100 00:04:31,089 --> 00:04:32,470 Speaker 3: with Philly. You know, I needed a change. 101 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:36,100 Speaker 5: So I kind of left it open to where the 102 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,940 Speaker 5: job opportunity took me. So D.C., California, they were all 103 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:43,540 Speaker 5: option sexist. So when the door opened to Atlanta, I 104 00:04:43,540 --> 00:04:45,250 Speaker 5: was like, well, this is where I need to be. 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,750 Speaker 5: So I came confidently with fears of what if I 106 00:04:49,770 --> 00:04:52,529 Speaker 5: don't do well at this job? What if, you know, 107 00:04:52,630 --> 00:04:54,229 Speaker 5: what if, what if, what if? But I was like, 108 00:04:54,290 --> 00:04:55,070 Speaker 5: I can always go. 109 00:04:54,990 --> 00:04:55,650 Speaker 8: Back to Philly. 110 00:04:55,710 --> 00:04:57,510 Speaker 3: You know, all my family's in Philly. 111 00:04:58,250 --> 00:05:03,270 Speaker 5: So, you know, that always was a fallback plan if 112 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:04,930 Speaker 5: it had to be, but never looked back. 113 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:06,810 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. If you guys want to talk 114 00:05:06,910 --> 00:05:09,650 Speaker 1: and join this conversation. I remember when I left IBM 115 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:12,910 Speaker 1: to pursue a stand-up career. And I left on great terms. 116 00:05:13,250 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: In fact, I tell people on the show, I was 117 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,140 Speaker 1: in tears when I made that decision a year in advance. 118 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Because it was such an emotional decision. Even though I 119 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,500 Speaker 1: knew working for IBM was not my future. It just 120 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,890 Speaker 1: didn't excite me. I saw myself being blocked in creatively. 121 00:05:29,089 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: And I went, okay, this is not me. And so, 122 00:05:31,740 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: because they had a successful model and they wanted people 123 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,100 Speaker 1: to grow in that model. And I wanted to do 124 00:05:36,140 --> 00:05:38,340 Speaker 1: things outside of that model. And I went, nah, this 125 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: is not me. But I know for about a year, 126 00:05:41,540 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: I kept thinking I can always go back. And then finally, 127 00:05:45,740 --> 00:05:48,820 Speaker 1: I said, stop. Stop that theory. 128 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,290 Speaker 3: Take the security blanket away and own it. 129 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: Stop that theory that you can go back. Because that's 130 00:05:54,250 --> 00:05:56,950 Speaker 1: not why you left. You left to pursue your dreams. 131 00:05:57,290 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: And that's key right there. You left. Philadelphia to pursue 132 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,620 Speaker 1: your dreams. And in doing so, you had to take 133 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: away that thought process. When did you take away that 134 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,580 Speaker 1: thought process that I had that you could always go back? 135 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:13,150 Speaker 5: Well, to make it even more, you know, I took 136 00:06:13,210 --> 00:06:17,409 Speaker 5: a temp position at this bank. I didn't even have 137 00:06:17,470 --> 00:06:20,250 Speaker 5: a signed contract. I took a temp job and took 138 00:06:20,290 --> 00:06:23,099 Speaker 5: a leap on faith. So once I proved myself, because 139 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 5: I was confident, I was like, I can do the work. 140 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:29,740 Speaker 5: I got a full-time contract. Found my apartment. Started building 141 00:06:29,779 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: my network of friends. And I was like, this is 142 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,099 Speaker 5: my home now. 143 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: And so you did free work. We're going to come 144 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,180 Speaker 1: back after this break because you've got a lot to 145 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,700 Speaker 1: talk about. We didn't even talk about nothing but vacation. 146 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:43,900 Speaker 1: Her story is so interesting. But you're the perfect guest 147 00:06:43,930 --> 00:06:46,529 Speaker 1: for the show because I want people to hear how 148 00:06:47,050 --> 00:06:50,770 Speaker 1: it seems simple. It seems difficult. But fear drives so 149 00:06:50,810 --> 00:06:53,690 Speaker 1: many people from reaching their ultimate dream, and that is 150 00:06:54,529 --> 00:06:57,850 Speaker 1: walking away. I know that. I've walked away from a 151 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,750 Speaker 1: lot of levels. A lot of people have said, Rishon, 152 00:06:59,770 --> 00:07:02,529 Speaker 1: you've always seen, and people have called me a renaissance man. 153 00:07:03,210 --> 00:07:05,190 Speaker 1: And sometimes I don't know what that means, but when 154 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:06,930 Speaker 1: they look at my resume, they go, you did this, 155 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:08,970 Speaker 1: you did this, you did this, and you've been good 156 00:07:09,010 --> 00:07:11,590 Speaker 1: at all these things. And I say because everything I 157 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:13,970 Speaker 1: do or have done in my life, I wanted to 158 00:07:14,010 --> 00:07:16,230 Speaker 1: do it. How you doing, Victoria? You're calling in on 159 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:19,710 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass, and you're speaking to me and 160 00:07:19,750 --> 00:07:22,770 Speaker 1: Charlie Shabazz. What are you talking about? What question can 161 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,150 Speaker 1: we help you with? Good evening. 162 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,940 Speaker 9: Good evening. 163 00:07:24,980 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: How are you? 164 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:28,530 Speaker 1: Wonderful. Good, good. 165 00:07:29,130 --> 00:07:33,290 Speaker 9: Okay, so I was just listening, and I just want 166 00:07:33,310 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 9: to commend you for taking the chance from moving from 167 00:07:39,940 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 9: the Northeast and then coming to Atlanta and all that. 168 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 9: Was there ever a time in your life where you 169 00:07:46,220 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 9: didn't have it all together like me? You couldn't hold 170 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 9: on to money, and it would just liquidate. 171 00:07:55,570 --> 00:07:58,030 Speaker 3: Victoria, I'm a CPA, right? I'm an accountant. 172 00:07:58,050 --> 00:08:04,050 Speaker 5: I take care of everybody's money. However, Georgia Power had 173 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:06,210 Speaker 5: me no lights one day when I came home. 174 00:08:07,150 --> 00:08:07,610 Speaker 1: Okay? 175 00:08:07,850 --> 00:08:12,150 Speaker 5: So, you know, Rashawn was talking about saving and how 176 00:08:12,190 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: you wish you could, you know, save and put things away. 177 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:17,340 Speaker 5: It was so easy for me to tell my clients, yes, 178 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,100 Speaker 5: you need to save. You need to put 10% here. 179 00:08:19,220 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: You need to do this. 180 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,420 Speaker 3: You know, but just keeping it real, it's hard to. 181 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:28,210 Speaker 5: Implement those things when you financially aren't where you want 182 00:08:28,250 --> 00:08:32,890 Speaker 5: to be. So absolutely, the struggle was absolutely real. And 183 00:08:33,370 --> 00:08:36,500 Speaker 5: I just think the key to it was just staying 184 00:08:36,540 --> 00:08:38,700 Speaker 5: in my lane. You know, a lot of my friends 185 00:08:38,740 --> 00:08:40,260 Speaker 5: were like, oh, we're going out, we're going out. 186 00:08:40,780 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: Nope, not me, not tonight. 187 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 5: You know, you have to sacrifice a lot of things 188 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:49,699 Speaker 5: in order to get to where you need to be. 189 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: So like Rashawn said, if you don't have a plan. 190 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:57,130 Speaker 5: I had a spreadsheet that I opened up every morning 191 00:08:57,210 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 5: when I was in corporate America and it was my debt. 192 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,500 Speaker 5: I had all my credit cards on the spreadsheet. I 193 00:09:03,540 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 5: had a payment breakdown on how I was going to 194 00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:08,069 Speaker 5: get each balance to zero and I was committed to 195 00:09:08,450 --> 00:09:13,050 Speaker 5: the $ 200 here, the $ 250 here, the $ 150 here. The saying, oh, 196 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:15,350 Speaker 5: I got a zero balance on my Discover card. 197 00:09:15,630 --> 00:09:15,929 Speaker 7: Hmm. 198 00:09:16,370 --> 00:09:20,860 Speaker 5: Let me use that $ 10, 000 from there, pay down my MasterCard, 199 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,380 Speaker 5: and then I got zero interest on the balance. You know, 200 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,620 Speaker 5: it was just maneuvering and figuring out, but having the 201 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 5: plan and being committed to the plan. And that's how 202 00:09:31,090 --> 00:09:34,089 Speaker 5: I was able to get myself out of that credit 203 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:37,610 Speaker 5: card debt that is inevitable when you don't come from 204 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:41,110 Speaker 5: money and you have an undergrad degree, you have a 205 00:09:41,170 --> 00:09:44,650 Speaker 5: master's degree. You know, you move and you're by yourself. 206 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:47,850 Speaker 5: You don't really have that family support system. So, no, 207 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:52,330 Speaker 5: it was absolutely real. And I just had to sacrifice. 208 00:09:54,270 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: Victoria, did she help you out with that answer? 209 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:56,380 Speaker 4: Yes. 210 00:09:56,980 --> 00:09:59,780 Speaker 1: That was good. My mom would think, uh-huh, answer, answer. 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 9: Can I ask, how would I be able to be 212 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:10,300 Speaker 9: a part of the franchise? Are you saying that Nothing 213 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,300 Speaker 9: Bunt Cakes is offering franchise opportunities? 214 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,180 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I speak to a lot of. 215 00:10:17,809 --> 00:10:20,820 Speaker 5: Potential new franchisees and a lot of them are very 216 00:10:20,860 --> 00:10:23,579 Speaker 5: intentional I want to open a Nothing Bunch Cakes that 217 00:10:23,620 --> 00:10:27,740 Speaker 5: was not my story Victoria Nothing Bunch Cakes was not 218 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,780 Speaker 5: necessarily the plan the plan was to open a bakery 219 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,420 Speaker 5: in Tucker in this new plaza that needed a bakery 220 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,330 Speaker 5: so I was like okay I'm gonna bring a bakery 221 00:10:37,370 --> 00:10:40,089 Speaker 5: to Tucker we don't have a bakery I had a 222 00:10:40,210 --> 00:10:44,429 Speaker 5: client that had a different bakery franchise so it was 223 00:10:44,510 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 5: initially going to be something else And when that didn't work, 224 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,380 Speaker 5: the landlord is looking at me. He's like, hey, Charlie, 225 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,660 Speaker 5: where's that bakery you bring in? I'm scrambling, you know, like, oh, Jesus, 226 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,290 Speaker 5: I'm Googling bakery franchise. You know, other things popped up 227 00:10:59,370 --> 00:11:02,329 Speaker 5: and then it morphed into nothing bundt cake. So I 228 00:11:02,350 --> 00:11:06,750 Speaker 5: would say the plan was to have a side business. 229 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 5: But sometimes you have to have to open it up 230 00:11:09,500 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: just a little bit and be receptive to the pivots 231 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,210 Speaker 5: and the changes and say, OK, I thought it was 232 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:17,890 Speaker 5: going to be this, but this is coming full circle 233 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: for me. So let me embrace this and make this work. 234 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 9: What's the definition of a franchise? I'm sorry. 235 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:25,700 Speaker 4: No. 236 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,060 Speaker 9: What's the definition of a franchise? 237 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: That's question number three here, Victoria. That's your last question, Victoria. 238 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm just a Victoria. You're the NPR, but you ain't 239 00:11:34,020 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: hijacking my show. You can start your own show online. 240 00:11:37,620 --> 00:11:40,729 Speaker 5: I would say a great movie to find on Netflix 241 00:11:40,970 --> 00:11:45,430 Speaker 5: is The Founder, I believe it's called, with McDonald's. So 242 00:11:45,510 --> 00:11:50,130 Speaker 5: it takes you through the whole franchise-like life. So basically, Victoria, 243 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:55,190 Speaker 5: two women came together 20 plus years ago, they had 244 00:11:55,210 --> 00:11:59,110 Speaker 5: a great Bundt cake and great frosting, right? They said, listen, 245 00:11:59,130 --> 00:12:01,890 Speaker 5: let's open up a little bakery. Let's have a store. 246 00:12:02,610 --> 00:12:06,490 Speaker 5: You have a business. It does well. You create a 247 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:09,340 Speaker 5: cookie cut type of thing. You know, you mastered the 248 00:12:09,380 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: recipes and it's like, can I give somebody this and 249 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 5: can they do. 250 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:15,140 Speaker 3: It without my expertise? 251 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: And once you prove the concept. 252 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,500 Speaker 3: And if you watch Shark Tank, a couple episodes, you'll 253 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: learn all this. 254 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 5: Once you prove that the concept can be done by anyone, anywhere, 255 00:12:27,260 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 5: that's the birth of franchising, right? 256 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: So, okay. 257 00:12:32,260 --> 00:12:35,900 Speaker 5: So they said, look, we have the recipe. We have everything. We, 258 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,570 Speaker 5: you know, worked out the kinks. We know how many 259 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:42,069 Speaker 5: people you should hire. We know, you know, what locations 260 00:12:42,190 --> 00:12:44,650 Speaker 5: are do well with this. And they kind of mapped 261 00:12:44,690 --> 00:12:47,190 Speaker 5: it out. They give you the blueprints. So you take 262 00:12:47,230 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 5: the blueprint. Well, you buy the blueprint. Let's be clear. 263 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 5: You buy the blueprint, Victoria. 264 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,780 Speaker 9: Well, let me tell you something. I've been baking since 265 00:12:55,820 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 9: I was 10 years old. 266 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:57,900 Speaker 1: Yes, Victoria. 267 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 9: I make really good. I'm sorry. 268 00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 8: Look, look, look. 269 00:13:01,330 --> 00:13:02,260 Speaker 4: I want to do this. 270 00:13:02,530 --> 00:13:05,949 Speaker 1: I'm serious. Well, Victoria, I'm not denying that. Victoria, first 271 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:07,790 Speaker 1: of all, that's what this show was designed, Money Making 272 00:13:07,809 --> 00:13:11,729 Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass, was to get the community excited about speaking 273 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:14,790 Speaker 1: to people like Charlie because they do exist. They do 274 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: exist and they're, they do have stories and her story 275 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,780 Speaker 1: has gravitated you and hopefully motivates you to be a star, 276 00:13:21,860 --> 00:13:24,380 Speaker 1: a star. Like she said, bakery, you know, like I said, 277 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm an award winning baker and I, and I have 278 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: no desire to open a bakery, but you go to 279 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: my timeline, you think I would bake and the people say, 280 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:34,660 Speaker 1: why aren't you 400 pounds? Every time I look, you're 281 00:13:34,730 --> 00:13:37,330 Speaker 1: eating something. And, but, but it's the passion. I hear 282 00:13:37,370 --> 00:13:39,790 Speaker 1: the passion in your voice. I think what she's saying 283 00:13:39,830 --> 00:13:42,150 Speaker 1: right now is that what is the plan? You know, 284 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:44,270 Speaker 1: what is the plan? And she speaks to people all 285 00:13:44,309 --> 00:13:46,770 Speaker 1: the time. And so, No, your question, I tease you 286 00:13:46,809 --> 00:13:50,369 Speaker 1: about asking questions. Your curiosity is incredible. But now it 287 00:13:50,390 --> 00:13:52,210 Speaker 1: has to be put on paper. And once you put 288 00:13:52,250 --> 00:13:56,390 Speaker 1: it on paper, then the emotional pushback happens. You know, 289 00:13:56,429 --> 00:13:57,790 Speaker 1: how do you make that dream happen? 290 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 7: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 291 00:14:02,420 --> 00:14:11,740 Speaker 7: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 292 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,459 Speaker 7: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashawn McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 293 00:14:17,580 --> 00:14:23,660 Speaker 7: continues online at MoneyMakingConversations.com and follow Money Making Conversations Masterclass 294 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 7: on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 295 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: And that's really where it all starts. You know, whether 296 00:14:29,580 --> 00:14:31,340 Speaker 1: you want to be a singer, whether you want to 297 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:35,180 Speaker 1: go to college, there are always dreams, but when you 298 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,220 Speaker 1: start creating application to that dream, that's when the struggle happens. 299 00:14:39,540 --> 00:14:42,410 Speaker 1: And when that struggle happens, how do you react to it? 300 00:14:42,460 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: What is your plan to push back on it? Because 301 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:47,660 Speaker 1: we all have rainy days. We have rainy days in relationships. 302 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:49,530 Speaker 1: We have rainy days on the job. And that word 303 00:14:49,630 --> 00:14:53,330 Speaker 1: rainy day doesn't necessarily mean rain. It just means difficulties. 304 00:14:53,450 --> 00:14:56,730 Speaker 1: It means when it's supposed to be sunshiny, it's gloomy. 305 00:14:57,110 --> 00:15:00,530 Speaker 1: And how do you react during gloom? And so this show, 306 00:15:00,620 --> 00:15:03,420 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass, that you're listening to and Charlie's 307 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,940 Speaker 1: doing an amazing, you know, me, I should be worried 308 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: about her. You know, she's just brilliant sitting over here. 309 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:12,420 Speaker 1: just responding so confidently and casually to these questions. And 310 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: to have a guest like this, she's in studio, she 311 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: came in here, she brought in some of her samples. 312 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,770 Speaker 1: It's to show confidence. And I just want to thank 313 00:15:19,810 --> 00:15:22,609 Speaker 1: you for calling in and leave your number and your 314 00:15:23,710 --> 00:15:25,650 Speaker 1: email address so we can reach out to you. Okay, Victoria? 315 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:28,370 Speaker 1: Because we really want to continue that conversation. Plus, I 316 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: want to send you one of my money-making conversation guides 317 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: to success. 318 00:15:32,020 --> 00:15:32,260 Speaker 6: All right? 319 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,090 Speaker 9: Thank you so much. And I go to sleep with 320 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:38,650 Speaker 9: this station on. Like, it's always on in my room, 321 00:15:38,690 --> 00:15:40,790 Speaker 9: and I really find refuge in it. So thank you 322 00:15:40,810 --> 00:15:41,230 Speaker 9: so much. 323 00:15:41,330 --> 00:15:42,290 Speaker 3: Thank you, Victoria. 324 00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:43,910 Speaker 1: Make sure you leave that information for me. Thank you, Ms. 325 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:44,330 Speaker 8: Charlie. 326 00:15:44,390 --> 00:15:46,010 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 327 00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:50,020 Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more Money-Making Conversations Masterclass with 328 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:56,140 Speaker 4: Rashaun McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass 329 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: with Rashawn McDonald. 330 00:15:57,660 --> 00:15:58,020 Speaker 6: See, Ms. 331 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: Charles, you get the little brand sitting up in here. 332 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: We know the thing about it now. You said you 333 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: were going in there. I know we're about to wrap 334 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:06,700 Speaker 1: this break up in a few minutes here, but I 335 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:08,010 Speaker 1: want to ask you a couple of questions before we 336 00:16:08,020 --> 00:16:10,810 Speaker 1: get there. You were going in there to open a bakery. 337 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:12,430 Speaker 3: As a side business. 338 00:16:12,630 --> 00:16:14,270 Speaker 1: As a side business. You should say it like that. 339 00:16:14,350 --> 00:16:14,690 Speaker 7: Okay, cool. 340 00:16:14,990 --> 00:16:20,150 Speaker 1: Let me get to history here now. Temple, accounting, CPA. 341 00:16:20,850 --> 00:16:23,710 Speaker 1: Where did the baking... Skills. 342 00:16:24,130 --> 00:16:24,750 Speaker 3: There were none. 343 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: There were none? 344 00:16:26,050 --> 00:16:26,340 Speaker 6: Mm-mm. 345 00:16:27,460 --> 00:16:27,670 Speaker 4: Okay. 346 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. 347 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:30,340 Speaker 3: I used to just cut the cookie roll, you know. 348 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:30,700 Speaker 7: Right. 349 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,780 Speaker 5: Like spray the pan and like just put the little 350 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 5: blop of chocolate chip dough on. 351 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,540 Speaker 3: It and stick it in the oven. 352 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the extent of my biggest skills. 353 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: You know, so if someone said seven years ago, you're 354 00:16:46,340 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: going to own a bakery. I would say, wow, interesting. 355 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:50,119 Speaker 3: Cause I don't bake. 356 00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:55,050 Speaker 1: Right. Right. So, so, so you in Tucker, Georgia, you, you, 357 00:16:55,070 --> 00:16:56,830 Speaker 1: but you're in a visionary because you feel that you 358 00:16:56,850 --> 00:17:00,010 Speaker 1: want to feel a need. Okay. So talk, walk us 359 00:17:00,030 --> 00:17:03,890 Speaker 1: through that step of going to the, um, the landlord 360 00:17:04,109 --> 00:17:05,490 Speaker 1: telling them what you want to do, but you have 361 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: to have a plan. And the first plan wasn't a 362 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,139 Speaker 1: nothing but case. Talk about that. Okay. 363 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 5: So the plaza was coming great location and Tucker, uh, 364 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:15,430 Speaker 5: I need to be a part of it. I'm driving 365 00:17:15,470 --> 00:17:19,090 Speaker 5: by every day going to my corporate job. So one 366 00:17:19,109 --> 00:17:22,260 Speaker 5: day I took a right and I found, you know, Sign, 367 00:17:22,580 --> 00:17:23,780 Speaker 5: wrote down the number, called him. 368 00:17:24,180 --> 00:17:26,220 Speaker 3: Hey, I have an idea for a bakery. Do you 369 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: have any space available? 370 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:28,590 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 371 00:17:28,619 --> 00:17:29,690 Speaker 3: How much space do you need? 372 00:17:29,770 --> 00:17:32,010 Speaker 5: I'm just talking him out, you know, kind of faking 373 00:17:32,030 --> 00:17:34,350 Speaker 5: it till I made it. And so I was kind 374 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:38,609 Speaker 5: of on the hook to bring a bakery. So that 375 00:17:38,690 --> 00:17:41,290 Speaker 5: is when the wheel started spinning. And I was like, oh, 376 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:43,590 Speaker 5: that fell through. What else can I do? Oh, I 377 00:17:43,609 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 5: was committed to bringing the bakery. 378 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,810 Speaker 1: OK. And you opened in 2017. 379 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 380 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,580 Speaker 1: When did you start this process? 381 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:50,740 Speaker 6: Yes. 382 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,580 Speaker 3: Late 15. 383 00:17:55,230 --> 00:17:59,189 Speaker 5: Late 15, we started communicating with the landlord. I'm at 384 00:17:59,270 --> 00:18:02,170 Speaker 5: dinner one night, and I had nothing but cakes in 385 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:05,090 Speaker 5: California at a cousin's birthday dinner. 386 00:18:05,369 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: And it was the best cake I ever had. And 387 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,459 Speaker 3: I thought, wow, I got to come back to L.A. 388 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,700 Speaker 3: to get this cake, you know? 389 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,300 Speaker 1: The creamy? 390 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. 391 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:16,699 Speaker 3: It's moist. 392 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,210 Speaker 5: The cream cheese, you know? So I had it, tasted it. 393 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,900 Speaker 5: I just didn't know it was a franchise. I didn't 394 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,290 Speaker 5: know there was one here in Georgia. 395 00:18:23,310 --> 00:18:23,379 Speaker 7: Yeah. 396 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,740 Speaker 3: I didn't know any of that until someone mentioned it again. 397 00:18:26,770 --> 00:18:30,670 Speaker 5: And I said, oh, let me Google. Google nothing. Bunch 398 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:32,209 Speaker 5: cake franchise. Boom. 399 00:18:32,270 --> 00:18:32,710 Speaker 4: Came up. 400 00:18:33,369 --> 00:18:36,830 Speaker 5: I'm almost signing a deal with another bakery franchise. 401 00:18:37,090 --> 00:18:37,409 Speaker 1: OK. 402 00:18:37,710 --> 00:18:38,110 Speaker 4: OK. 403 00:18:38,170 --> 00:18:42,930 Speaker 5: So the spirit said, don't just see nothing. Bunch cakes 404 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:43,570 Speaker 5: has to say. 405 00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:44,580 Speaker 3: I emailed them. 406 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 5: She replied back. I told her what was happening about 407 00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 5: me with this other franchise. She said, wait, don't you 408 00:18:50,060 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 5: do it, Charlie. 409 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:54,979 Speaker 3: Hear me out. And I heard her out. And the 410 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:55,980 Speaker 3: rest is history. 411 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 5: You know, I canceled the deal with the other bakery 412 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 5: franchise and went with nothing but cakes. 413 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:05,139 Speaker 1: So so why? I was just off air. Why are 414 00:19:05,180 --> 00:19:08,899 Speaker 1: black women the fastest growing segment in entrepreneurship? Why are 415 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: black women? 416 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,610 Speaker 5: From what I see and all the amazing black women 417 00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:16,510 Speaker 5: that I know. I think our mothers have a lot 418 00:19:16,570 --> 00:19:20,010 Speaker 5: to do with that. I know my mother, you know, 419 00:19:20,050 --> 00:19:23,290 Speaker 5: she pushed her girls to be what she was not 420 00:19:23,390 --> 00:19:26,410 Speaker 5: able to accomplish, you know, so it was just having 421 00:19:26,430 --> 00:19:31,510 Speaker 5: that fierce, you know, that, you know, amazing black role 422 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:35,370 Speaker 5: model of a mother to say, you need to travel. 423 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:37,990 Speaker 5: You need to go to college. You need to be 424 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:40,290 Speaker 5: better than me. You need to do better than me. 425 00:19:40,450 --> 00:19:44,780 Speaker 5: You know, the school is your number one priority. That 426 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,409 Speaker 5: just pushed me to continue to see myself out of 427 00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: North Philly. You know, a lot of my friends didn't 428 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: never been out of North Philly, so they couldn't see 429 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: themselves living outside of North Philly, let alone, you know, 430 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 5: having a business or going to college. So I think 431 00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:06,990 Speaker 5: our mothers are the backbones of two while we're so 432 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:09,369 Speaker 5: successful and we're very passionate women. 433 00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:10,949 Speaker 1: I grew up with six of them. 434 00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:11,530 Speaker 3: Yeah. 435 00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:14,310 Speaker 1: So I know about the female passion. 436 00:20:14,410 --> 00:20:14,530 Speaker 6: Yes. 437 00:20:14,590 --> 00:20:16,110 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to find out how 438 00:20:16,150 --> 00:20:20,170 Speaker 1: big her bakery is, the pros and cons of franchising, 439 00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:22,670 Speaker 1: what to consider before franchising. As she said, you know, 440 00:20:23,050 --> 00:20:25,830 Speaker 1: she was about to sign another franchise location, bakery, and 441 00:20:25,869 --> 00:20:28,830 Speaker 1: then she sat down with the nothing but cake individuals, 442 00:20:28,869 --> 00:20:31,470 Speaker 1: and they said, hey, we're the one. And she's not 443 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: looked back. We'll be right back with more of Charlie Shabazz. Charlie, 444 00:20:35,180 --> 00:20:40,310 Speaker 1: you got another phone call. Is it Tayron? Is it Tayron? Taryn? 445 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:41,929 Speaker 1: Is it Taryn? 446 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:43,860 Speaker 6: Taron. 447 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:44,660 Speaker 1: Taron. 448 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:45,820 Speaker 6: Like the capital. 449 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,300 Speaker 7: Right. 450 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay. I appreciate you, my friend. And I apologize because 451 00:20:49,020 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: my name is Rashawn. You'd think I would get everybody's 452 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,179 Speaker 1: name right. And I apologize. I apologize. Yeah, yeah. 453 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:58,190 Speaker 6: I say the same thing when I get someone else's 454 00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:59,210 Speaker 6: name wrong. 455 00:20:59,590 --> 00:21:02,790 Speaker 1: Well, one name I can't get wrong is Charlie. It's Charlie. 456 00:21:02,830 --> 00:21:05,470 Speaker 1: Charlie's on the show with me and we talk about franchising. 457 00:21:06,050 --> 00:21:07,730 Speaker 1: What's your question today that you might want to ask 458 00:21:07,770 --> 00:21:08,270 Speaker 1: me or her? 459 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,619 Speaker 6: Well, I just wanted to, you know, give y'all props. 460 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:19,100 Speaker 6: I listen to WCLK often, and I just was listening 461 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 6: in on the conversation and just wanted to say, you know, 462 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,710 Speaker 6: thank y'all for just supporting Black-owned businesses as well as, 463 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 6: you know, small businesses on a whole. But Black-owned is definitely... 464 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 6: Thank you, Teron. 465 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,219 Speaker 1: I really appreciate Teron because of the fact that, you know, 466 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: when you when you try to talk to people, there's fear. And, 467 00:21:52,619 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, especially offering advice is like, what's the what's 468 00:21:54,660 --> 00:21:58,070 Speaker 1: the scam? Because black people have a natural, you know, 469 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,750 Speaker 1: scam radar. You know, there's another agenda here. The agenda 470 00:22:01,790 --> 00:22:05,570 Speaker 1: here is just providing information. That's all. And basically what 471 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:09,980 Speaker 1: we're having is just a conversation. And we as allowing 472 00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:11,940 Speaker 1: you to listen in on our conversation that we might 473 00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: have in a restaurant that we might have, you know, 474 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: walking down the street. And these questions like Victoria was 475 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,460 Speaker 1: so excited to hear you call in and say, I 476 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,700 Speaker 1: really appreciate this conversation is what we want to hear. 477 00:22:22,740 --> 00:22:25,470 Speaker 1: That's the conversation you want to create. And the thing 478 00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:28,470 Speaker 1: I loved about Charlie's conversation was she was just a 479 00:22:28,550 --> 00:22:31,380 Speaker 1: business minded person that got into this. And that's what 480 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:33,940 Speaker 1: stops so many people. You didn't have to be a baker. 481 00:22:34,660 --> 00:22:36,900 Speaker 1: You just had to have the passion and the ability 482 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,030 Speaker 1: to work hard to achieve your success as a franchisee. 483 00:22:40,650 --> 00:22:45,250 Speaker 1: That's what excites me about the conversation. What are your thoughts? Absolutely. 484 00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:49,590 Speaker 6: Well, you know, the journey, the journey, sometimes, you know, 485 00:22:50,109 --> 00:22:53,980 Speaker 6: in the beginning is the shaky road, you know, and 486 00:22:54,600 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 6: it takes, you know, it takes that vision. to be, um, ignited. 487 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: And like you said, you know, fears is that thing 488 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,129 Speaker 6: that stops most people's ideas and visions and goals because 489 00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:11,090 Speaker 6: they don't really know what they're stepping into. And, um, 490 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:15,690 Speaker 6: as I was hearing her story and, uh, stories before hers, um, 491 00:23:16,170 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 6: you know, I definitely related and, uh, you know, again, um, just, 492 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:25,899 Speaker 6: you know, I just appreciated just hearing everyone's, uh, journey, uh, 493 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,230 Speaker 6: to where they are now. And, um, and I know that, 494 00:23:28,830 --> 00:23:30,550 Speaker 6: you know, in, in the future, I know I'm quite 495 00:23:30,609 --> 00:23:35,790 Speaker 6: sure there's, you know, is a long term goals, you know, there's, 496 00:23:36,270 --> 00:23:38,740 Speaker 6: you know, other goals that, yeah, but, but as far 497 00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 6: as what I've heard, you know, I definitely, um, related to, so. 498 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:43,860 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. 499 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate you for calling. 500 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:46,459 Speaker 1: Because she has a little announcement to tell us. And 501 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,860 Speaker 1: thank you for calling on the show. 502 00:23:48,020 --> 00:23:51,580 Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 503 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,990 Speaker 4: with Rashawn McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations 504 00:23:56,290 --> 00:23:58,609 Speaker 4: Masterclass with Rashawn McDonald. 505 00:23:58,990 --> 00:24:00,669 Speaker 1: Now, you're telling me off air. He was talking about 506 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:04,189 Speaker 1: long-term gold, short-term gold. Now, short-term gold was just to 507 00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: get a place open in a bakery with a name 508 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,899 Speaker 1: on it that was reputable. Right. 509 00:24:09,060 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: Love it. 510 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:12,859 Speaker 1: Well, you got your third phone call. Awesome. Thomas, how 511 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,500 Speaker 1: you doing, Thomas? 512 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 3: Hi, Thomas. 513 00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: Charlie's here along with Rashad McDonald. What's your question? 514 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:20,449 Speaker 8: I just want to say good evening to both of you. 515 00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:21,389 Speaker 8: I'm an avid listener. 516 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:21,950 Speaker 1: Good evening. 517 00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:25,590 Speaker 8: I just want to commend Charlie and his sister before CPR. 518 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,139 Speaker 8: Just for all that you're doing. 519 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,260 Speaker 6: Thank you. 520 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,620 Speaker 8: Me being a business owner myself, a fairly new business owner, 521 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,290 Speaker 8: the walk that you talked about, Charlie, the pivot, you 522 00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:43,110 Speaker 8: have an accounting background, doing something totally unrelated to what 523 00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:45,810 Speaker 8: you were doing. And the thing that I find to 524 00:24:45,850 --> 00:24:49,450 Speaker 8: be true, and you sound of a similar nature, but God. 525 00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:50,030 Speaker 6: Yes. 526 00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:54,530 Speaker 8: I commend you, commend you, commend you. I love Rashaun 527 00:24:54,550 --> 00:24:57,010 Speaker 8: for this platform, giving others to come on here. 528 00:24:57,070 --> 00:24:57,189 Speaker 1: Amen. 529 00:24:57,230 --> 00:25:01,770 Speaker 8: Thank you. To learn, inquire, share, continue to build and 530 00:25:01,890 --> 00:25:05,209 Speaker 8: uplift each other. And like Rashaun talked about earlier, that fear, 531 00:25:05,869 --> 00:25:08,930 Speaker 8: I too know I've wrestled with it for years, but 532 00:25:08,970 --> 00:25:11,619 Speaker 8: by the grace of God, last year I pushed through myself. 533 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,500 Speaker 8: So I can go on and on, but I won't. 534 00:25:14,540 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 8: I just keep it short, but I just want to 535 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,540 Speaker 8: commend you. I'm going to make, I eat it. Nothing, 536 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,580 Speaker 8: nothing but cakes. Um, Every now and again, I was 537 00:25:23,619 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 8: first introduced to it about three years ago at a 538 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,100 Speaker 8: corporate function, and I do make it a point to 539 00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 8: go there. Now that I know that you have a 540 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:33,420 Speaker 8: location in Tucker, I'm going to make it a point 541 00:25:33,460 --> 00:25:36,850 Speaker 8: specifically to come to see your location. 542 00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:39,990 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thomas, and congratulations to you as well. 543 00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:42,730 Speaker 8: Thank you. I just wish you well and much success 544 00:25:43,050 --> 00:25:45,129 Speaker 8: on your current store as well as your new endeavors 545 00:25:45,150 --> 00:25:46,250 Speaker 8: you're about to embark upon. 546 00:25:46,290 --> 00:25:49,010 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate you so much. Thank you so much. 547 00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:53,250 Speaker 1: Well, you know, this is the Charlie Shabazz Show. She's 548 00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:57,170 Speaker 1: my co-host on Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Now, you delivered 549 00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:57,750 Speaker 1: to my office. 550 00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:58,410 Speaker 3: I did. 551 00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:00,330 Speaker 1: Now, how are you going to do that? Because you 552 00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:02,230 Speaker 1: like that personal touch. You like to be on the 553 00:26:02,290 --> 00:26:04,369 Speaker 1: front line of meeting your customers and things like that. 554 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:06,130 Speaker 3: Well, you know, and I still will. I just won't 555 00:26:06,170 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: be able to do all of them. 556 00:26:07,710 --> 00:26:07,890 Speaker 1: Right. 557 00:26:07,930 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 5: You know, I absolutely need a full team to help 558 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: me be completely successful. I think I am best at business. 559 00:26:16,510 --> 00:26:20,379 Speaker 5: building relationships, marketing. That's my new job. I'm out the 560 00:26:20,430 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 5: DeKalb chambers of commerce. I'm a member there. I'm a 561 00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: member of my Tucker business association. I'm out planning the seeds, 562 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,350 Speaker 5: you know, so when they start to grow, the business 563 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,830 Speaker 5: can grow. Um, and you just got to know what you, 564 00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:35,669 Speaker 5: what you're good at and what you're not good at. 565 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:39,670 Speaker 5: I've met other business owners who are not people, people, 566 00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:42,530 Speaker 5: you know, um, So they hire other people to do 567 00:26:42,609 --> 00:26:43,430 Speaker 5: that for them. 568 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:44,390 Speaker 1: That's not true. 569 00:26:44,590 --> 00:26:47,590 Speaker 3: It's a gift. It's a gift. And I'm thankful for it. 570 00:26:47,660 --> 00:26:50,419 Speaker 5: And I'm thankful to be in the position to be 571 00:26:50,540 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 5: able to build those relationships because a lot of times 572 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 5: businesses come to communities and they take, take, take from 573 00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:58,609 Speaker 5: the community and they don't give back to the community. 574 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,030 Speaker 5: So it's very important to me to give back to 575 00:27:02,050 --> 00:27:03,189 Speaker 5: the community that I live in. 576 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:04,530 Speaker 3: I'm still a resident of Tucker. 577 00:27:04,910 --> 00:27:07,389 Speaker 1: Well, the beauty of our conference, first of all, finally 578 00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:11,270 Speaker 1: got you in here. You are amazing. Not only amazing, 579 00:27:11,290 --> 00:27:13,230 Speaker 1: just your story is just special. Thank you. And it 580 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:15,380 Speaker 1: fits so many things that I talk about every week. 581 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: And the fact that you are not a trained baker. 582 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,260 Speaker 1: The fact that you just saw an opportunity, did your research. 583 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:24,139 Speaker 1: And that's why I then overcame the fear of people going, 584 00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: you don't do that. Why are you doing something you 585 00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:29,700 Speaker 1: don't do? That's what this show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass, 586 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,010 Speaker 1: is all about. I want to thank you for coming 587 00:27:31,070 --> 00:27:31,380 Speaker 1: on the show. 588 00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:31,810 Speaker 6: You're welcome. 589 00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:34,530 Speaker 1: And thank you for these snacks, too. Absolutely. We'll see 590 00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:36,230 Speaker 1: you next week. This is Rashawn McDonald. I am the 591 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:38,610 Speaker 1: host of Money Making Conversation Masterclass. And thank you, Charlie. 592 00:27:38,650 --> 00:27:39,690 Speaker 3: You're welcome. Thank you. 593 00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:44,510 Speaker 1: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass, 594 00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: hosted by me, Rashawn McDonald. Thank you to our guests 595 00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:51,260 Speaker 1: on the show today. And thank you, our listening audience. Now, 596 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:53,179 Speaker 1: if you want to listen to any episode or want 597 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,450 Speaker 1: to be a guest on the show, visit MoneyMakingConversations.com. Our 598 00:27:57,470 --> 00:28:01,550 Speaker 1: social media handle is MoneyMakingConversations. Join us next week. And 599 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:04,340 Speaker 1: remember to always lead with your gifts. Keep winning.